A Unanimous Decision? In Today’s Supreme Court?! (Hour 1)

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All right, before we get to the Supreme Court and the Trumpster, bigger breaking news.

Many thanks to Tony Zimmerman on YouTube, handles all of our digital reels, does a great job for all of us.

Breaking news, he says.

Former Packer quarterback former jet quarterback is on his way to Pittsburgh to sign with the Steelers So there you go it cements to Pittsburgh's first round exit from the playoffs this year according to Zimmerman I'm not sure if that's official new that part might not be official, but yes This also being verified by the NFL Networks Tom Pilla sorrow or Pilla Sarah

Just posting it on his Twitter account as well Aaron Rogers now a Pittsburgh stealer So there you go.

He is at least he didn't end up With the Vikings right that would have completed the farve trifecta Brett farve went from Green Bay to New York and then Minnesota So Rogers route a little different Green Bay to the Jets

To Pittsburgh Aaron Rodgers now a Pittsburgh stealer gonna be interesting gonna be very very interesting indeed to see if he could do better there I mean clearly Pittsburgh's a better team in terms of support around Rodgers but

We'll see if Rogers is the real deal.

So that is the, uh, the drama in sports world today.

I'm sure our sports reporter, uh, Mike Clemens, as well as a Jimmy Cusco will be following that and bringing us updates at the bottom and top of the hour.

All right.

So breaking news this morning, a couple of hours ago.

So I mean, maybe not breaking anymore, but new news today this morning out of the US Supreme court, this from an Arizona perspective, because of course, uh, many.

Many of this implication will have effects on Arizona says after the US Supreme Court blocked Mexico's 10 billion dollar lawsuit against top firearms manufacturers.

Some Arizona lawmakers are reacting to the decision.

And by the way, this was a unanimous ruling this morning on this one.

So there's no ambiguity about, well, this is Trump's Supreme Court doing this.

No, this was a nine nothing decision unanimous.

It says the unanimous ruling tossed out the case under U.S.

law that largely shields gun makers from liability when their firearms are used in crime.

Big name manufacturers like Smith and Wesson had appealed to the justices after a lower court let the suit go forward under an exception for situations in which the companies are accused of violating the law.

One of the Arizona Arizona Senate Republicans released his statement commenting on the decision quote is a victory for a second amendment rights and our nation sovereignty Arizona's legislature had joined 26 other states to urge the Supreme Court to end Mexico's lawsuit So we'll see the the Giffords Law Center, of course Gabby Giffords who herself is a victim of gun crime

and the former member of Congress herself on the Democratic side, the wife of Mark Kelly, United States Senator from Arizona, the Gifers Law Center, a nonprofit organization that promotes gun violence prevention, and for gun safety laws, said the decision still allows for gun companies to be held accountable if they break the law.

Quote, today's decision will end Mexico's lawsuit against the gun industry, but it does not.

affect our ability to resolve to hold those who break the law accountable," said David Puccino, legal director and deputy counsel for the Giffords Law Center.

He went on to say, quote, the justices did not give the gun industry the broad immunity that it sought.

Instead, they reaffirmed that the victims of gun industry misconduct can hold lawbreakers accountable in court.

All survivors, the United States and Mexico and elsewhere deserve their day in court and we will continue to support them in their fight for justice, unquote, unquote.

Again, that from the Giffords Law Center.

In a daily briefing, the Mexican president pointed to another suit the country filed in 2022 against five gun shops and distributors in Arizona.

There are two trials, she said.

We're going to wait and see what the result is and we'll let you know.

The 2022 lawsuit named diamond back shooting sports amongst others.

It claims the Arizona gun stores ignored several red flags allowing straw sales as well as bulk repeat gun purchases of weapons that ended up in Mexico.

Look, I'm not an attorney to play one on the radio or anywhere else, but who is is Jim Santel.

And I'm pretty sure, pretty confident that Jim Santel, former US Attorney, will discuss this as well as the next one we're gonna talk about here in a couple of minutes on his great program on Saturday morning called Amicus, a law review with Jim Santel.

You can tune in every Saturday morning from nine until 11 with Jim Santel and Amicus.

So as always on these things, there's a couple of different takes, right?

I trust the Giffords Law Center.

I think that they do a great job in calling it pretty balls of strikes.

And from their perspective, a little bit disappointed, but it sounds like there's going to be some, the Supreme Court did not give the gun manufacturers everything that it wanted.

necessarily.

We're going to take a break on news, weather, sports update, agriculture with our friend Pam Yankee, the Fabules Farm Babe and Midwest Farm Report.

Back with more Supreme Court decisions in a moment.

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Glad to have you along.

Gonna continue on looking through some of these Supreme Court decisions that were handed down this morning.

So especially this one on Supreme Court, making it easier to claim reverse discrimination.

and employment in a case from Ohio.

But first what I want to check in on the other breaking news of the hour happening just moments ago coming across the wires, news of former Packer quarterback Aaron Rodgers who followed farms footsteps on to New York.

Where will he go next?

Live on the phone, our great sports reporter.

Nobody knows the NFL better, particularly the Packers, our very own Mike Clemens.

Mike, thanks for joining us.

Hi, Todd.

It's always great to have you along.

Tell us what you know.

Tell us what any details you can have.

Is this, is this seem to be a real deal where Aaron Rodgers goes next?

Well, uh, ESPN's reporting this afternoon that Aaron is going to report to the mandatory mini camp next week with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

So our long national nightmare is finally over.

We know he's not going to be a Viking.

Is that what you're talking about?

I want to tell you, I was standing out there at Packers OTA practices the other day.

And after I saw Jordan Love, wing one, about 55, 60 yards in the air and hit Jaden Reed in stride.

And then hit a really nice rocket in the backhand corner for like a two point conversion to Romeo Dobbs.

And Dobbs, you know, like celebrating like he got past all the secondary and got open and scored on that.

And they were like,

yeah,

nod their heads and all the offenses running off the sidelines and celebrating.

you know, while the defense has walked off the field.

I mean, love looked really sharp.

Then in the next wave, they brought in Malik Willis with the ones, the backup quarterback, and he moved the ball down in a two minute drill.

They get

some nice mid range passes left and right.

And I looked over to one of the guys from the Packers and I said, did the Pittsburgh Steelers currently have anybody at quarterback better than Malik Willis?

I mean, you know, they, you know, it's like, isn't it like Mason Rudolph?

Will Howard, the kid from Ohio State, I think he went in the sixth round.

And I think that they picked up that guy from a two or three year guy from the Dolphins, Thompson, Skyler Thompson.

But you know, my point is, what is Mike Tomlin thinking?

You know, obviously he's, you know, he must have assurances privately with Aaron, but you know, Aaron has just decided to drag this all out.

And I'll, I, I will take, you know, his word about

There's someone new in his life, maybe a girlfriend, and there's some family and some people that are battling cancer and he wants to be a better person that way to be available for family and all that.

Okay, that's all fine.

But he pulled this crap with the Jets, right?

A year ago at this time, Robert Salah, good head coach, close friend of Matt LaFleur, it has to explain to the New York Press,

Where's your quarterback for mandatory mini camp here coming back from you know, the torn ACL or the Achilles rather the Achilles Well, he's not here right now.

Yes, he's gonna be fine and people are like, well, it's just a mini camp, you know, Aaron Rodgers doesn't need this.

No, it's not whether Aaron Rodgers needs the reps It's the receivers and the rest of the team around them.

Yeah, and how did that turn out last year with the Jets?

Well, let's see They fired Nathaniel Hackett the offensive coordinator.

They fired the head coach

They fired the general manager.

They fired the interim coach.

They blew the place out and the new regime came in and said, Aaron, we don't even want you in the building anymore.

Yeah, it was it was incredible.

It's solid.

So the Packers know that the flora hired him like as a consultant or something.

He's still with him.

Who?

the former head coach of New York.

No, he went back.

No, he's working for Kyle.

He went back to the 49ers.

He's

a

defensive coordinator, highly paid defensive coordinator of the San Francisco 49ers.

So he's back with the 49ers.

Interesting.

Reports are that we're seeing there's a one year deal with Pittsburgh and not seeing any money or anything involved.

But I agree with you, Mike.

I just obviously my Clemens are my I'm on serious sinus allergy meds, Mike.

I apologize.

Obviously, Mike Tomlin has any share.

I only wish Tomlin's a successful coach, a smart football guy has been at Pittsburgh forever.

But I got to wonder, like for Wisconsin, a defensive guy, you know, a TJ Watt, who I mean, you know, there's some real talent on Pittsburgh.

And you got to wonder, like, oh, my gosh, do I want this drama coming into our locker room?

Well, and.

And Aaron Rodgers has always admired Mike Tomlin and the way he's run that franchise.

You know, Mike has been there.

He was actually just a little bit younger than McCarthy, but those two guys got hired in Pittsburgh and in Green Bay at about the same time.

And look how long Mike Tomlin has lasted through there.

But that franchise still has not figured out how to replace

Ben Roethlisberger and they held on to Ben Roethlisberger probably a year or two years too long.

Meanwhile, I'm standing out there watching Goody and LaFleur looking at love and Malik Willis and like quarterback.

Yeah, we got that taken care of in Green Bay.

We got that.

And we're not waiting for some 41 year old, you know, to say, well, I don't need the OTAs.

Well, the people around you need you.

And this came down to his last year in Green Bay.

where, you know, he met me in one year.

He was, he was like, he and good kids were getting along.

And then what turned out to be his last year is like, you know, I, I don't need to be there for the OTAs.

And so when we got about two weeks into training camp, I said, you know, all he did was complain about the receivers are too young to make a mistake here and they need to get their act together.

And at the point I said, look, I remember when Brett came into training camp,

Take him about two two and a half weeks to get it going right and he nodded smiled I said you day one You look game ready and he smiled and this is all true about this is all accurate Aaron Rodgers will report and he will be in terrific shape And he will dazzle the Steelers camp.

He'll do his magic tricks But I said if you're having problems with these younger receivers Wouldn't

it

make more sense if you were here during some of those OTAs and mini camps to bring them along?

And some of the beat reports like, oh, you know, it's been nice working with you.

He's going to drop you.

He respected me.

And he said, and that's what he gave this famous answer where he said, listen, what those guys do in the OTAs and minicamps, that's the 100 level.

And then when I get here, that's the 200 level courses, you know, comparing it to like a college syllabus of some kind.

And it's

like, okay, you might think that, but the reality is,

They need as many reps with you as they can get.

Right.

And even though he's going to be surrounded by some veterans like DK Metcalf, who they picked up, you know, from the Seahawks, the rest of the team need those reps.

The coaches need to

be around

them.

Right.

Well, it's going to be interesting, Mike, because they play, well, I'm not sure I have the schedule in front of me, but they play each other, right?

Pittsburgh and the Packers sometime

this year.

Oh.

Great point.

So it's

on.

It's on.

It's the final countdown.

Love versus Rogers on the field for everything.

I can already taste my cheese steak now.

Very quickly.

Give us a one minute on how the Packers or the Greenway Packers are looking as they prepare here for the 2025 season.

We had great conversations with Lucas Van Nass, who said, hey, listen, man, I played most of last year with a broken thumb.

It's kind of tough to shed offensive tackles with a broken thumb.

Kenny Clark, I had reported earlier that I found out that he'd gone to Panama for stem cell surgery.

It was the

second year in a row.

He played most the last year with a broken toe.

They've got a new defensive line coach, and DeMarcus Covington, eight years with the Patriots, a lot of that under Belichick, that they're excited about.

It's 36 years old.

They can help them with their schemes and get in their past rush going.

Drone love looks fine to me.

uh... they're waiting for elton jenkins to you know to agree to a new deal because he's like okay you're gonna move me to center and you replace me with a guy and pay him seventy seven million dollars yeah we're going to we're going to restructure mine

okay

a little more money coming here to your all pro veterans so that that that's working on and uh... the one running back i want to see because he was injured last year is this march on void out of u s c

he spent most of last year on our well he starts out the o.t.a.

off their working with christian watson you know in the rehab group like what are we going to see this guy well he got out there a little bit early he showed up with a hamstring injury below floor pretty much made it known we think he's a speedster but we got to get this guy in the field

Interesting.

Well, it's going to be fun and nobody covers it better than you, Mike Clemens.

We appreciate you very much, my friend.

Thanks for doing this on very short notice of breaking news about Rogers.

And I look forward to having you on more often here throughout the summer as we gear up for Packer season.

The Brewers, Brewers, make it a little bit of noise here as well.

Yeah, looking good.

Yeah.

And the training camp starts for Green Bay on July 23rd.

Family night is August 2nd, Saturday night.

And then I'll be back with my reports at the top of the hour during your show all next week during the Packers mandatory minicamp in which Jordan Love has already been there at all the OTAs.

No drama in Green Bay.

And it

turns out.

Thank you, Mike.

We appreciate you, my friend.

Take care.

Thank you.

My pleasure.

Mike Clemens, everybody, our great sports reporter.

Nobody knows it better than him, and great to get it on the ground from Mike Clemens.

Yeah, I mean, we'll see.

We'll see the circus that is the Aaron Rodgers show, but it's going to be very interesting, I think, for Packers fans as we get closer to that Packers Steelers matchup.

Love versus Jordan, or love versus Rodgers.

Tony Zimmerman says, winner gets to go, gets to own the Chicago Bears.

I don't know, I'd be throwing that game.

Right.

I don't want that

responsibility.

I'm nervous about the Bears this year because the Pope is, the new Pope is a Bears fan.

All right.

45 minutes now past the hour of two o'clock.

Coming up next hour, by the way, Emily Mills from the Reconbobulation area is going to be here in studio talking about a great new article that they wrote regarding AI and the environment.

Interesting take on that.

Looking forward to Emily Bean here and also what's worse for you addition in hour number two as well.

Right now I want to take a look at this other Supreme Court decision this morning being handed down.

It's that time of year where the Supreme Court does a lot of their decision making and we find out sometimes multiple cases a day like today.

This other case I want to talk about is also a unanimous decision.

So this is, we haven't seen many of these lately.

where we have an unanimous decision on the gun case involving Mexican gangs.

And then now another unanimous decision earlier today to bring lawsuits, making it easier rather to bring lawsuits over so-called reverse discrimination, citing with an Ohio woman that claims she did not get a job and then was demoted because she is straight.

the Justices decision affects lawsuits in 20 states in the District of Columbia, where until now courts had set a higher bar when members of a majority group, including those who are white and heterosexual, sue for discrimination under the law.

Justice Katanji Brown Jackson, an Obama appointee, wrote for the court that federal civil rights laws draws no distinction.

between members of major and majority and minority groups.

She wrote, quote, by establishing the same protections for every, quote, unquote, individual.

Without regard to an individual's membership in a minority or majority group, Congress left no room for the courts to impose special requirements on majority group plaintiffs alone.

Jackson wrote.

The court ruled in an appeal from Marlene Ames Now Ames has worked for the Ohio Department of Youth Services for more than 20 years those who joined Jackson's opinion I Should say though he joined Jackson's opinion just as Clarence Thomas noted in a separate opinion

that some of the country's, quote, largest and most prestigious employers have overtly discriminated against those who they deem members of a so-called majority groups, unquote.

Thomas, joined by Justice Neil Gorsuch, cited a brief filed by the America First Legal, a conservative group founded by Trump aide Stephen Miller, to assert that, quote, American employers have long been obsessed with DEI initiatives and affirmative action plans, unquote.

So unanimous decision, but seemingly for different reasons.

Again, Jim Santel will go through all this on Saturday from 9 until 11.

Amicus Law Review, stay tuned.

We'll continue on after this as the all balls show across Wisconsin.

On the Civic

Media, ready to know.

across Wisconsin pursuing truth and having a little fun while we do it.

It's the All Ball Show, along with Summers on the Civic Media Ready Network where it is now eight minutes before the hour of three o'clock.

And hour number two can be joined here at the desk in the studio by Emily Mills.

They are with the recombobulation area and going to be talking about a story that Emily wrote in regards to AI and how it is affecting and could affect the environment.

Very interesting stuff going to be talking to Emily in hour two, also another edition of What's Worse coming up as well.

Aaron Rodgers on his way to Pittsburgh to sign with the Pittsburgh Steelers in the ongoing Aaron Rodgers saga.

Many thanks to Mike Clemens for being here to break that news.

Jeff Perry, our friend and ongoing contributor on Facebook says upon hearing.

that he's going to the Steelers and apparently confused Donald Trump just slapped a 50 percent tariff on Aaron Rodgers.

I did not know that.

Well, in all seriousness, talk about global warming.

There may be no hotter place this afternoon than our nation's capital.

This is real.

Things are getting hot between Donald Trump and Elon Musk.

Of course Musk announced last week.

He was leaving the doggie or the doge.

However you want to pronounce it.

His work here was done basically.

Yes, I've created chaos and now I'm leaving.

But he's also spoken out about Trump's, he calls it the big beautiful bill, you know, whatever.

It's a reconciliation bill.

And even Elon Musk is calling Trump out and Republicans now and saying, you guys are nuts.

That's gonna increase the deficit Don't pass this So now it's getting nasty this morning and this afternoon actually now a Tesla this five minutes old from CNN Tesla shares plummeted 1515 15% this afternoon as Elon Musk's battle with President Donald Trump intensifies Trump threatened

in a social media post to target Musk's business empire.

Trump wrote this on his true social quote, the easiest way to save money in our budget, billions of dollars is to terminate Elon's governmental subsidies and contracts, unquote.

Wow.

Now, now when, when they were together, when they were a couple of bromance.

Trump defended all that.

So no, no, it's it's fine Now the what do they say the stem is off the rose something like that The Tesla share off a sell-off has wiped off more than get this 150 billion with a B off the market value of Tesla Which started the day worth nearly 1.1 trillion

That's a

lot

of gravy.

It also is erased a chunk of the net worth of Musk, who is the world's richest person.

And now it's gotten even nastier about five minutes ago or so.

A little bit, well, almost a half an hour now.

Elon Musk tweets this out on Twitter X quote, this is from Musk, quote, time to drop the really big bomb.

Donald Trump is in the Epstein files.

That is the real reason they have not been made public.

Why?

Have a nice day, DJ T exclamation point.

And by the way, he put the at real Donald Trump thing on there.

So make sure that he tagged Trump so he would see this again while they were together.

Trump and Musk.

Oh no, everything's fine.

There was no mention of Donald Trump.

Of course, if you're not familiar, Jeffrey Epstein, who went to jail for sex trafficking, lots of it on his remote island and a plane, all kinds of pictures with Donald Trump and on Jeffrey Epstein together.

Epstein went to jail and mysteriously, quote unquote, died by suicide.

It happened that the cameras that were the security cameras weren't working that day Oh, and it happened that the the people that were supposed to put the guards supposed to check on him Were preoccupied Rather suspicious and now Elon Musk remember here's a guy who has a lot of information during Doge he

Got a lot of people's information Including I would assume Donald Trump and he was on the inside in the inner circle So Elon Musk is saying that Epstein or that Trump is in the Epstein files Trump is threatening to cancel billions of dollars in Elon Musk's governmental contracts Stay tuned next hour This is a real life drama here

It's it's It's get your but what's that mean with the popcorn?

You know just sit there and eat popcorn

this

afternoon It could get very very interesting but again What fascinates me is the fact that these things the musk contracts the Epstein files and the Connection to Trump while they were together Trump and musk.

Oh, no, they defended each other everything was fine Now now that they've broken up

It is.

This is like one of those celebrity divorce things.

Although it's real.

A lot

more consequential.

A lot more consequential.

Unfortunately.

Yeah.

And where does Vladimir Putin fall in this menagerie?

Oh, he's he's definitely the mistress.

There's a reason Trump named his new security initiative, defense initiative, the Golden Dome.

He they tested they tried that with a golden shower was was floated, but I didn't take It's very interesting.

All right, come on back in hour number two Get very interesting as well Emily Mills is gonna be here from the recapobulation area talking about great story that they wrote when it comes to AI You know, I'm not a big fan and how it relates to the environment stay with us.

It's the title of all show for the

Thursday, June 5th edition on the Civic Media Radio.

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