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Trygve Olson On The Normalization Of Bad Behavior (Hour 2)
The Todd Allbaugh Show · Wed Jun 4, 2025
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Good afternoon, everybody.
I'm Tyler Obama on their outstanding producer engineer, Mr. Aaron Zommers on the board.
It is six minutes past the hour of three o'clock.
Welcome into hour number two of the big program on this Wednesday, June 4th, 2025.
It is a great day to be Wisconsinite.
And how about that?
The cable has.
brought us halfway through the work week, little still some air quality advisories over much of not all of Wisconsin.
There's those wildfires from Canada continue to rage and it's going to be here around Wisconsin at least through today.
The rain that we had overnight and still continuing in part to Wisconsin is going to help to push that out and hopefully the pollen as well as my allergies continues to wreak havoc.
I apologize for that.
But the sun is out till he's partially here summers in downtown Madison through the through the smoke.
It sure is through the fire and
as some
fire and flames very good Speaking of fire and flames we bring on our next guest this hour.
He usually joins us in hour number one, but
He had a meeting, so he was kind enough to join us here in hour number two.
Pat Krightlow was filling the spot alone, but he did a marvelous job.
We have Parker.
Parker Olson, our new producer for Pat's show on today, but now joining us from the wonderful suburbs of our nation's capital of Washington, DC.
No?
I don't see him.
I see him on mine.
Well, I will come in by you.
We're having, seems to be a theme this week.
We seem to be having technical difficulties.
But never having a difficulty, the one, the only senior advisor at the Lincoln Project, Mr. Trig V. Olson.
How are you my friend?
Oh Lord, hang on, hang on.
Apparently now there's still technical difficulties on our end as you're muted, unless there's something on your end that's muted.
I we're having this is not Zahmer's fault, by the way, the the system in which we do this show over over the video and audio portion.
It's glitchy as is, by the way, our podcast version of the show.
Essentially, if you want to see the show in its full proper context, come down to State Street.
We're going to do a live version out of the street later on this afternoon.
This will be absolutely fantastic.
Uh, well, I'll, uh, Trigme can keep talking.
Zommer's is going to work on that.
He always works his magic.
Thank goodness for Zommer's.
He's smarter than any of these computers.
See if we just use Zommer's brain, everything will be fine as it turns out.
Uh, but can you hear me, Trigme?
I can hear you.
Yes.
Now we can hear you.
Welcome.
I'm texting you.
I'm like, Aaron, Aaron.
It wasn't him.
It's it's this.
It's it's the computers, Trig V. It's AI.
That's the problem.
Aaron, can you hear me?
Yes, we're good.
My former boss, he'd be traveling around Southwest Wisconsin where the service, any cell service is spotty because of the driftless hills and whatnot.
And he'd want to continue the conversation and be cutting in now and he'd say, Bombay, this is Rangoon, are you there?
are
you're here, it's been a great job.
Sam Davison.
by teaching.
He is.
But I'm
You're looking very pink today, Trippie.
Very nice of you.
Before we play...
Well, what's worse, I want to finish up on this story.
We started last hour.
I think you're going to like this because this comes to us from JR Radcliffe from the walk the walkie-drills sentinel Clayton Youngberg, who has hip problems.
We're going to get into that in a second.
But here's a guy who he started running marathons in his roundabout.
777 laps around about equals a marathon.
He did a Calvars marathon where he stopped for cheese curds and ice creams at all the local branches around Wisconsin.
And then he did a quick trip marathon in which he only rehydrated using items found inside various quick trip locations on his route.
And then another adventure fueled by Bratz a non-alcoholic beer.
and he put this on TikTok and socials and it's blowing up.
People are loving this all around the country, this very Wisconsin focused stuff.
Isn't that great?
Yeah, I think it's all great.
But here's-
I'm
off my lawn.
But here's the really cool part and the serious part in 2018.
I can't say these words not because they're bad and you can't pronounce them.
He says he suffered a rare condition known as I'll try it.
Central.
pontine melanosis, an impact in the brainstem from a rapid correction of sodium levels in his body.
He lost nerve function in his arms, legs, and vocal cord, spent a month at physical rehab.
He was discharged in a wheelchair and endured six months of physical therapy before he could run again.
And if that isn't bad enough, he also suffers from avascular neurosis, essentially it's bone death.
at the hip end of his femur, it's already partially collapsed, but it probably is a hip replacement at some point, but here's a guy who had all that happen, and instead of sitting around feeling sorry for himself, he said, I'm gonna bring some awareness and have some fun with this, and he does all this on social media for fun, and I just think that's a great spirit to have.
Yeah.
ever
just... When you go out there and you say, hey, what are you doing?
And you're going to
What
can't go on.
Well, don't say it.
It says, he asks, have you ever crushed a donut mid-marathon or armed your watering pack with foamy beer?
Well, on Memorial Day, Young Bird showed up at Menards in Waukesha, adorned in construction gear, preparing for his next 26.2 mile adventure up and down the sidewalk in front of the popular Wisconsin hardware store.
He says, quote, I'm definitely open to ideas.
I feel like I have an image for what I want to do, though, before I'm open to too many ideas.
I want to carve out my own lane as the channel, his YouTube channel is growing.
I want to stick to the ridiculous ideas that I have.
What's that?
I
a lot.
that out of the background.
We
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, so this is coming up on.
I
Trigby could not get us on on lamb in the inside Lambo.
Very touchy about things up there.
Let's see.
Let's do this quick one second.
Tell us what's new with your family for 30 seconds.
Why do this?
Well, we're
I believe so.
school so late.
Yeah, so we.
Go ahead.
Has your daughter chosen a university yet?
You've been on these university
know, but we're going to
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asked
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get around
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camel on
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what's worth.
He knows what I'm talking about when I
Let's go.
Yes time once again for what's worse nothing to give away no prize money involved But it is your chance to have your voice heard all across the state of Wisconsin.
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Watching from South Milwaukee.
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Awake in the middle of the night or oversleeping.
What's worse?
Trigby.
about a little minute left or so.
Any thoughts on the year?
You are you're not a morning person.
I have a
Yeah.
Well, OK, sure.
But since I
both of these are bad.
But I
That's right, Trigby Olsen doesn't have a real job.
So what does he care if he oversleeps?
Except we're on the road and we're waiting in the lobby at 9.30.
Where's
Yeah,
the cows.
I would say I'm up at 4 a.m., but, you know, we got a schedule to keep.
What's the word?
Awake in the middle of the night or oversleeping?
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Well, we let machines start picking music.
I'm
one.
Yeah, he has.
AI-trig-V.
But I will tell
on that one.
Real-trig-V would have done a better job.
All
All right.
We're right in the middle of what's worse category today.
Awake in the middle of the night or oversleeping.
Awake in the middle of the night or oversleep.
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Or on Facebook, YouTube and Twitter, Aaron watching us on YouTube says, awake in the middle of the night is worse.
when you know that you have to work at six a.m.
Boy, howdy.
I've been there before.
Yeah, absolutely.
Let's do here off of the text line right now.
We have Michael, who is listening to us in on WMDX, but is in Tosa says oversleeping is worse.
That means you're late for something.
Yeah, usually I've certainly been there.
Philip listening to us in Beaver Dam on WMDX up in the middle of the night.
ends up making you oversleep.
Thank you, Phillip.
We appreciate your listenership.
Diane, here in Madison, listening on WMDX says, awake in the middle of the night is worse.
Thanks, Diane.
Judy in beautiful Lodi, Wisconsin, listening on MDX says, I hate oversleeping because then I worry that I'll be late for work.
It throws me off all day.
Being awake in the middle of the night just means I'll be really tired, but I will at work.
It doesn't matter during the weekend.
Only the work week, Judy from Lodi.
And Conrad, up in Green Bay, is this our Conrad?
Is that right?
Conrad, the producer of Nightlight with Pete Schwabba, in which I will be appearing tonight at 7.20.
I'm going to be given a Wisconsin quiz.
Is
Did you read his text?
Of which I do not know.
Oh, here I was giving him props and here is Conrad says, is it true that Todd will be joining Night Light Tonight at 7.20 to face off?
I didn't know it was a contest against Pete and a very special Night Light Quiz.
Now, that sounds like a show you wouldn't want to miss.
Yes, with the shameless plug.
Yes, it is.
Now, I didn't know I was going to be pitted against Schwabba, but tune in tonight at 7.20.
Schwabba will probably kick my posterior, but that's OK.
What else we have here Jason in West Alice watching on YouTube Says awake at the middle of the night is worse.
I have a hard time going back to sleep That's Jason in West Alice and finally Scott in beautiful Green Bay, Wisconsin home of your Green Bay Packers of which mr. Olsen is an owner on WB GBW says oversleeping Unless it's your wedding day
I feel like there's a story there, Trigby.
Like, oversleeping is worse unless it's... Maybe he meant like the day after your wedding.
don't know.
Because those are two very different things, right, Trigby?
100%.
I'm not quite sure where he's going with that.
Did you guys have a big wedding?
We've never talked about this.
got
Press
up.
Yeah,
If I didn't know
My sister, I remember right, they had fireworks, little fireworks late at night at their wedding.
So, yeah, that's cool.
Yeah, fireworks
cool.
They are.
They're very cool.
Matt, listening to us in Middleton, one of our great folks out there, Matt's dad was called in yesterday.
That was a lot of fun.
That's true.
Yeah.
Matt says, over sleep, pardon me, oversleeping is worse.
As there are repercussions with work or missing an appointment as a wake at night Can be fixed with some push-ups and a book It was
That's right.
All I need is a few push-ups and out book.
Yeah, that's uh, uh-huh.
They help they help you relax you and put you right to sleep That's the best text of the day
I like that one a lot.
All right, Somers, awake in the middle of the night or oversleep?
not because anything's
I would say, yes, the same thing for me.
Oversleeping is worse because it generally means I'm late for something, either an early flight or what I used to do, sign-on shifts at RCO and Richland Center.
There were a couple of times when it came pretty dang close to Todd not being on the air in time.
So
And Trigby, you voted for what one again?
Awake in the middle of the night.
Yeah.
Awake in the middle of the night.
Because because of his unique schedule Because he doesn't care over sleep What are they gonna do Todd?
I don't like it when I I don't like it when I oversleep So my favorite lines with Trigley, what are they gonna do Todd?
All right, go back we'll we'll talk about some serious things Trigley has a new substack which is exciting and Vince Lombardi was one of the early
uh, champions of equal rights in the state of Wisconsin.
We'll discuss that as well.
It's the Tunnel Ball Show for Wednesday across Wisconsin on the Civic Media.
Ready to know.
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and are the outside at the right time at the right moment when Trigby flies into the Twin Cities and drives over the St.
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Joining us from the Tony suburbs of Arlington in our nation's capital, Trigby Olson, the senior advisor.
I knew that would make him upset.
Senior advisor of the Lincoln
project, former Republican like myself and a good old Wisconsin boy like me as well.
Trigby, we'll turn it a little bit to a more of a serious note here.
Lots of politics to get to.
Just a quick one.
I want to spend a lot of time on this, but one of our listeners wanted you to comment.
We talked about this when it happened here a couple of days ago.
Iowa Senator Jody Ernst over the weekend held some sort of a town, I guess, give her a little bit of credit for facing the public.
Sean, this is from Sean and Richland Center, one of our great
listeners on WRCE says he says, I still say Jody Ernst is worse as far as what's worse.
Love to hear Trigby's thoughts.
So those that don't know, Jody Ernst, U.S.
Senator from Iowa, Republican holds a town hall and talking about the budget going through Congress right now.
And someone yells out because of these cuts in Medicaid, Medicare, people are going to die.
And Joni Ernst, very matter-of-factly, says, well, look, we're all going to die.
And then, to make matters worse, she records films, a quote, unquote, apology, in a cemetery.
in which she condescendingly says, oh, I really apologize for telling people that we're going to die.
I'm just I'm glad I didn't have to address the tooth fairy and then goes on to bring in her faith in a weird way as well.
What was your take on this, Trigby?
Lean forward if you can.
I mean,
First of all, she's standing there taking a selfie with her phone, going on and on about overstating the obvious.
I posted on my sub-stack, which is free and always will be, and I guess you get which pay for in terms of sub-stack.
It's good stuff.
At least mine.
Yeah, thanks.
I posted after Biden announced he had cancer, you know, where there were all these people that were like saying awful things about it.
It's like, where is the humanity in all of this?
You know, like, how have we gotten to a place that there are people?
A man says he is stage nine or like nine out of 10.
prostate
cancer and people are not
And where's the good people?
We're both former congressional staffers.
Where's the staff?
I mean that had that whole thing in the cemetery.
That was not random.
They planned that.
I mean, I mean, who and the staff says, yeah, senator, that'll be great.
Isn't anybody saying, uh, senator, this is a bad idea.
you would think.
I don't
that.
855-752-4842.
Ollie in the North Woods.
Ollie, always a pleasure to have you call in.
You had a question for Trigvie.
Yes, I do.
Well, I'll start with Trigvie's question.
I would like to know if he is planning on joining the June 6th United for Veterans Rally in Washington, D.C.
Yeah,
Um, I did recently, you know, uh, I think they're veteran veterans leader.
It's Dan Barkoff's group.
I did his podcast recently and he was talking about it.
I need to go back to be honest.
It isn't, I know, I knew that it's happening.
I don't know a lot of details, but I think it would be a good thing.
I probably will try and take my daughters down to it if we can.
I hope so, and I hope to get the word out for everybody.
I heard they are going to be doing some live streaming of the event, and I hope that that will be available, but you can look it up on the Google.
Well, I can shoot Dan.
I need to shoot Dan and I can shoot Dan a text and see, but I know they're in the middle of it.
And I think it will be a pretty big event.
The the, you know, of course, then the other thing that's coming up is the parade, the Trump parade.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, that's why I gotta say I'm trying to get I'm going to try and get out of dodge for that.
Well, that's why I'm hoping that this parade will be bigger than Trump's parade.
And.
that this protest and it coincides with the D-Day commemoration on the 6th.
So I think it's a very good thing to support our veterans who have given so much and are getting so little.
Yeah, really, really well said, Ollie.
Thank you so much for calling in and talking about this.
8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.
Our friend Troy out in Mount Horrib calling in.
Troy had a question or a comment about Senator Urnge from Iowa.
Do you really think she has people telling her no for anything?
Good question.
Just like Trump, you know, give her to the people who would tell me this is a bad idea and I'm going to do whatever I want.
That's actually a great question because Trigby and I have both been legislative state and federal staffers and and I don't know Trigby how people you worked for but the people I worked for generally like to have at least a couple of people on staff who would really be honest not not in public but in the car or or behind closed doors and say look this is this I'm gonna argue why you shouldn't say this or why you shouldn't do this is that is that even a thing anymore
Well, I mean typically successful politicians have people who can tell them no and who can go to them and say you know beat checks on Listen all of us do stupid stuff at different times, right?
And you want to have people who are gonna tell you maybe you need to think about it You're gonna pause and think and you know part of being in leadership is sometimes you have to do things that other people maybe are not advising you to do but
in Ernst's case with that.
I mean, I don't know who came up with it on her staff.
I don't know who probably said, when you're digging a hole, stop.
Don't grab a shovel and keep digging.
She grabbed a shovel and kept digging.
And as I say, having met her on a few occasions and having talked to her, she's not a bad person, but I just think this is what crazy does.
leads to more crazy.
And so it may be that she doesn't have anybody that's telling her that or it may be that she really wants to be in the U.S.
Senate and or secretary of defense or whatever.
And she's willing to, you know, I
think we have a story.
I don't want to go through this all again, but really quickly.
We had a story yesterday where this guy was an immigrant.
There's questions whether he's documented or not in Milwaukee.
He was arrested for allegedly threatening Trump's life with a letter.
Turns out it was a guy who assaulted him who is in jail that set him up.
And then, and then Kristi Noem says, on the same day they found out this guy was set up, she had, she posted the guy's picture and says, well, this is the person that tried to kill Trump.
And none of it was true.
And to your point, Trevi, I think it's taking the crazy.
from the top, the Trump craziness, and everybody underneath in his administration, in the Republican Party, they look at that and say, oh, that's the way to win elections.
That's the way to get the base riled up, is to do this crazy stuff.
I think it starts with Trump.
You know, I talk about that in one of the subject post, too, that I've seen around the world.
It's normalization of what
And it's why character matters so much.
In fact, that post I did yesterday was characters, the first thing to go and the last thing that matters.
And the truth of the matter is, at the end of the day, when you're looking at who you're going to vote for or who you're going to let into your life, the first and most important thing is character.
It's why it matters more than policy.
It matters more than, you know, anything else.
Is it somebody who whose character you can trust?
And I just think normalizing bad behavior, normalizing bad character, normalizing grift and and and and what about ism is just it's on the rise and and so then you have people who are, you know, look at Lindsey Graham.
I'm sure if McCain were still around, he'd be like, I don't even recognize this guy.
But that's what this stuff does.
It infects.
I was going to say, it's like an infection physically in our bodies.
We're talking with Trig V. Olsen, senior advisor at the Lincoln Project.
Check out his new sub-stacks.
Amherst was so kind to put it up there again.
You can check out his great work there.
Trig V. Olsen, that's TRY.
G is in George.
V is in Victor.
E.
Olson with an O and dot substack.com Trigvy Olson dot substack.com What what a couple minutes left here before the break Trigvy?
What made you want to do this and and if you're a theme in these substack posts?
I didn't want
The
only reason that I saw I avoided it at all costs And I had people saying oh you got to get on substack.
I'm like
The reason I did it is because I kept getting asked to do these substack lives and to do a substack life.
You have to be on substack, which is pretty smart.
Interesting business model by substack.
So yeah, I wanted, I promised some people that I would do that.
So I had to get on substack and then it was like, well, if I'm going to be on substack, I guess I got to produce some things.
And I was thinking about it.
You know, there's so many people on substack that are all about.
the outrage machine.
And honestly, it's like Fox News or any of the outrage.
It's easy to have a business model that's based on just agitating and trying to
rev people.
It's what
And I'm like, I don't want to do that.
So I called my.
my sub-stacks searching for hope and every day I write about democracy or about things from my life.
I called it searching for hope because Vilta, who was my first daughter who was still born, she had been 19 this year.
Her name means hope for the future in Lithuania and I thought, well, we all need some hope at a time when fear is on their eyes.
So I wrote this first post and crazily enough, I had about
I don't know, 200 people.
I posted it on Facebook and said to my my peeps back in Wisconsin that I was doing this.
I had like 200 of them sign up for it.
And then I was like, well, now I'm stuck.
I've got to write
these things.
And, you know, now I've got a thousand people who are doing it.
discovered that you can look at who are the people that are following you.
And I'm like, now I've got all these prominent people.
So it's like an average people and all these people back home.
And so I'm like, all right, well, if people are interested in what I'm saying, I guess I'll use that as a voice.
As I said, a lot of people are using it as a business model.
I'm not charging anybody, nor will I ever charge people because
a
Yeah.
Again, check it out.
Trigvielson.substack.com.
I love the fact you can bring awareness and motivate people with hope instead of just rattling people's cages every day.
I love that.
I absolutely love it.
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So listen tonight Pete Schwab from six until eight right now We have Trig V Olsen senior advisor at the Lincoln project with this enough of politics for today Trig V Well, I guess it kind of ties in it is that you're a Green Bay Packer owner one of a few and it happens to be Pride month I have what I consider
one of my favorite Pride Month t-shirts.
This is when I worked back at LL Bean.
It's kind of their logo in different colors.
It's classy, in my opinion.
So I enjoy that.
It's Pride
is.
Exactly, classy.
It was made specifically for Pride Month, back at LL Bean.
Oh.
Yeah, well, that's cool.
Yeah, it is cool.
So one of the things I think that gets overlooked, Joe from Madison,
I talked about this a few weeks ago on the show, but here now according to NFL Films is a not not according to it is a clip from the late great coach of the Packers, Vince Lombardi.
Maybe a lot of people don't know this, but he actually fought for gay players like Ray McDonald to be treated as equals was an early advocate and ally.
Here is Coach Lombardi on what he thinks of equality.
It's lesser known about Vince Lombardi for his era.
He was well ahead of the national norm.
on racial tolerance, tolerance on gender issues, lifestyle issues.
If you could play and play his way, he wouldn't care if you were green or what you did in your private life.
The bloody baptism of America's gay rights movement took place in June of 1969 during New York's Stonewall riots, reflecting the nation's hostile environment towards people like Washington Fullback, Ray McDonald.
That
is correct.
I can say in retrospect now that Ray McDonald was the number one pick on our draft list.
And Lombardi when he came understood that Ray McDonald was gay.
And Lombardi wanted to give him every benefit of the doubt and every chance, and said to one of his assistant coaches, George Dixon, if I find any coach challenging McDonald's manhood, they'll be fired immediately.
Well, I think in every regard, my dad was a little bit ahead of his time in that his brother Harold was gay.
So I think he had an open
mind.
That according to NFL Films, a clip there from one of their profile pieces.
I just love the fact that Lombardi didn't make a huge deal out of it.
It was just like, look, you're a packer first.
And anybody who picks on him, I don't care whether it's gay or being a black person, they're out of here.
I'm just not going to tolerate it.
And it's simple.
It's straightforward.
And I love his attitude on
I mean, it's the attitude that we should all live with, right?
Like.
I mean, people spend too much time digging and caring about what other people are doing with their lives.
Like, I'm very libertarian in that way, I think.
But I don't know.
I just think I don't know why we've gotten that way.
I mean, has it always been that way?
I guess, you know, I think about that a lot, right, Todd?
Because, you know, we get all these people who cite we the people.
We
the people, we the people, you know, like Derek Van Odd one, Scott Walker, Badger Boys State Walker, right?
But the truth of the matter is it's in order to form a more perfect union.
It's an ongoing endeavor.
And I don't understand this.
People, people spending all this time scrutinizing everybody else and why we've gotten that way.
Yeah, agree.
I want to go to the full lines quickly, about a minute and a half left here.
But Joe, who originally brought this up on the show is calling in Joe.
Thanks for listening and thanks for calling in.
Yeah, thanks for bringing this up again.
I think it's a Wisconsin story that can't be repeated enough for us to understand where we come from.
I mean, one of our greatest heroes is somebody, an ordinary guy, Italian American out of New York City, who experienced great discrimination at that time when he was growing up simply by being an Italian American.
And his love for his brother is part of what propelled him to understand what it was like for gay people and the enormous, enormous difficulties they went through.
What he did was that he was more than a football coach.
He was also a civil rights leader in our state.
You know, he led the right to have fair housing.
He worked with Father Groppi on a Milwaukee for that.
And he challenged the business owners in Green Bay to say, if you don't seat my black players, my white players are not going to be coming to your restaurant, to your hotel.
It was
You know, back in the early 60s, he was pushing this in Green Bay.
This is a leader.
This is us.
And we can look to this history with great pride and use it as we propel ourselves forward.
Thanks a lot for bringing up again, Todd.
It can't be told enough.
Thank you, Joe, really appreciate it.
And again, she was Joe as well, the person that brought it up originally.
But again, Trigby, we go all over the state with this show.
Once again, if we needed more reasons, part of what makes Vince Lombardi and the Green Bay Packers part of what makes Wisconsin great.
percent.
Yeah.
It really should, even though not the Pope is a Bears fan.
Yeah, what's that about?
What's that about?
Trippie Kent, thank you for making time for us today.
Also, Pat Critell.
Listen to him every morning, six until nine.
And Parker Olson as well.
Zomers, doing a great job as always to all of you for listening.
Maggie Dawn is next.
Todd Albal, say whatever you're fighting for, whatever you are fighting for or working towards or whatever you believe in.
That's right.
It's the meds.
Keep banging your drum.
Where's the Kleenex Zomers?
We'll see you tomorrow.
Bye-bye.
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