
Transcript
The Trump Administration’s Low-Effort Persecution (Hour 2)
The Todd Allbaugh Show · Fri May 30, 2025
and streaming worldwide on the Civic Media app.
Good afternoon, everybody.
I'm Todd Alba, along with our outstanding producer and engineer, Mr. Aaron Zombers on the board.
It is six minutes past the hour of three o'clock.
Welcome in to our number two in the big program here on Friday, TGIF May 30th, 2025 for the World Headquarters of Civic Media Downtown Madison.
It looks like clouds.
I guess it might still be cloudy.
But it looks a little darker than it should because we are under a air quality advisory the entire state of Wisconsin for all day.
As these Canadian wildfires, which are raging up in Canada, Brittany Merleau this morning on the Pack Right Low Show told us that this is at least due in part to climate change, global warming, and this is causing.
bigger and a longer fire season, not just in Canada, but in parts of the United States as well.
And now we have, would this happen one a year or two ago, something like that?
We had it lasted for several days where it was really hard to be outside.
So this will not last several days.
It's expected that after today, what's gonna happen is a cold front is gonna move through, that's gonna create some showers and garden variety thunderstorms through parts of Wisconsin today and into overnight.
And that will kind of push out the smoke in the air.
So it should be a little bit easier and better to breathe by tomorrow.
Temperatures warm up during the weekend and then by 90 by 90 by Monday.
This one happens when you start your day at 430 by Monday.
It's going to get what my grandma used to call sultry.
It's going to be sultry on Monday.
Exactly the type of weather the Zombers loves.
It's going to be like 90 and humid.
It'll be a hot one on Monday, so be prepared for those summer-like temperatures coming in on Monday.
Coming up here in just a little bit, we're gonna do some of the what's worse for you today.
And also...
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So we're going to talk about that in just a few minutes as well and also get into more of the serious news.
Lots of news today, particularly around immigration.
And one of the stories, once again, has Wisconsin in the spotlight.
An immigrant who was charged with threatening to kill the President of the United States, Secretary, Department of Homeland Security Secretary, Kristi Noem, tweeted about it, has ruined this guy's reputation, and now it comes out he's 100% innocent.
So we'll discuss that a little bit later as well.
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855-752-4842.
Mark, from Prayer to Sack.
Mark, you wanted to speak about this incident I was talking about.
We're gonna talk more about it in a bit, but involving Christy Noem.
Yeah, does this guy have any cause of action for Christy Noem?
Defaming this guy?
I mean, ruining this guy's, trying to ruin this guy's life.
I mean, figuratively, I'd want her head on a spike.
I mean, it was just,
It's the kind of thing that if she's caught cosplaying all over the The bloody country, you know if you're posing with you know holding higher powered weapons and with her You know her thugs alongside her also holding weapons and I mean that is just not the image that It's supposed to be portrayed in the same going after this guy like this.
I mean this could they need to pay I mean if she needs to pay and it should be with it should be with her job.
I mean that it's
It is just a beyond the pale that this woman violated her oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States and apparently she's never read the document.
I mean that You know that I play a constitutional scholar sometimes I'm certainly not but I certainly know that that she violated the Constitution Nine ways to Sunday with this nonsense.
It's just a really really bad look
But even worse, it's really bad for this poor guy who happens to be, by the way, from Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
Longest Mark called in.
Let's just give you the details on this story, according to CNN.
Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem posted on ex Twitter, whatever you want to call it this week, that an undocumented migrant from Mexico had been arrested for allegedly sending a letter threatening to kill President Trump.
She also included a picture of the man and a copy of the letter, but get this Investigators now believe the migrant was set up According to several sources law enforcement believes that Ramon Morales Reyes 54 did not write the letter Which was sent to an immigration and Customs Enforcement Office and other agencies instead
Investigators suspect a person who is currently awaiting trial in a robbery and assault case in which Reyes was the victim wrote the letter in an attempt to have him deported.
Federal officials who asked for a handwriting sample from Reyes also determined that his handwriting and the threatening letter did not match.
The guy is totally innocent.
He was set up by someone who assaulted him because they want to get him out of the country.
I guess figuring, well, Jesus, the guy is out of the country.
Maybe they'll drop the charges on me.
So they make this up and send this out.
More now for Whist Politics and the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.
Mr. Reyes as we said 54 a Mexican immigrant living in Milwaukee was arrested on May 22nd on the walkie south side shortly after dropping his daughter off at school family members say they the family members of Morales the innocent guy are now receiving death threats after Christina made that post Claiming that he threatened to assassinate President Trump, which he did not do
However, his family members and his attorney say Reyes who get this does not speak English and is not proficient in writing at writing in Spanish Could not have authored the letter Officials already determined Reyes did not write the letter by the time they interviewed him Reyes his attorney says DHS was quote careless unquote with their
issuance of the statement gnome has already done irreversible damage to the family I Mean this this is just absolutely preposterous to me.
It's sick Here's a guy who beat up another person And he's he's planting a letter basically setting this guy up Try to get him thrown out of the country so that he gets off the charges of assault
855-752-4842.
855-752-4842.
Dana, listening in lacrosse.
Dana, thanks for calling.
Just a couple minutes left.
What's up?
Hi, Todd.
It's been a while.
Good to talk to you.
You as well.
On this Christine Nome story, I'm trying to sync with my MAGA hat on here.
If she wrote that letter, but on your latest,
Statements, it sounds like maybe she didn't actually write
who beat
Ah, well, then wouldn't that guy be the one that actually threatened the president and he should be held liable for it?
Yeah, that's a great point.
That's a great point.
That's all I got.
I gotta
Thanks, Dana.
Really appreciate you.
Have a great day up there.
Your granddad's bluff and beautiful lacrosse Wisconsin.
No, that's a great point.
Again, I'm not an attorney, but there might be something to that.
I mean, if he wrote this letter threatening the President of the United States and made it look like someone else did it, I mean, the guy who wrote it, maybe he's liable in that case.
I don't know.
Either way, you cut it.
It's just, it's so disappointing and so sick in my opinion.
And look, each of us has to take responsibility for our own actions.
But again, I go back to I firmly believe that much of what we do in the country In our communities are influenced in some way shape or form by the people who we elect The president in states whomever that is That person we're not like other countries that have kings and queens and even you know monarchs that are kind of you know
However, they don't want the government, but they're they're a part of the country.
Here, the president of the United States is essentially like our monarch.
You want to look up to that person.
And when President Trump is demeaning people based on their race, the color of their skin, where they're from, all that does is incite others, his followers, some not all.
But this guy apparently is well, you know, Trump does this all he disparages immigrants if I do the same thing They'll throw this guy out and I'll get off scot-free for beating him up And the and the really sick part is that Kristi Noem Who knows better?
She just she doesn't care about the facts and this is what's so dangerous about this administration
They don't seem to care about the truth.
They don't seem to care about what's real and not real.
Remember, JD Vance, when he was running for vice president last year, remember the whole dogs and cats, they're eating the dogs and cats, the Haitian immigrants, which was all made up?
JD Vance said on the record, we played it for you.
Last year, where he said, hey, if I have to make things up, I will.
If we exaggerate to get elected to win this race, we'll do that.
they have not changed since they've gotten into office and into power.
Come on back.
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Uh, whether if they win, they'll go through a line and they shake hands, but not everybody shakes hands, especially after COVID, right?
COVID kind of, I mean, the fifth fist bump was always kind of around, but it really took off during COVID.
So today's category, what's worse?
Hand shake or fist bump?
What's worse?
Hand shake or fist bump?
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So go to the phone lines.
Charles, listening to WAUK, a beautiful Milwaukee.
Charles, handshake or fist bump?
What's worse?
Handshake.
I used to think fist bump was, but 11 years ago I had a bilateral double lung transplant.
So now to keep down germs, I fist pump.
All right.
And instead of hands shaking.
So hands shaking for me because of germs.
That's a great point.
And I
It was just like, well, you know, and some people do like the elbow bump as well during COVID.
Right.
Yes.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
All right, Charles.
Well, I think that's a great, a great viewpoint on that.
A great entry, our first entry.
I appreciate it.
Have a great weekend, Charles.
You as well.
Thank you very much.
What's worse handshake or fist bump 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 You can also text us on this as well on the cynic media app cam in Appleton says both are worse
I've been in men's bathrooms and see all of you not wash your hands.
There's there's more.
But we're going to we're going to keep it non personal.
So we're just going to say Matt's vote is for a fist bump is worse.
Appreciate the call or the text there.
one of our wonderful UPS drivers out there in the old RC, getting her done there on a Friday afternoon.
What's worse, handshake or fist bump, 855-752-4842, 855-752-4842, or text us on the Civic Media app.
What's worse, handshake or fist bump.
You want to give your answer?
And I think I think a lot of people still
Judge to a certain degree like I mean, I will say if someone has like a like a limp handshake that annoys me I Just I don't I don't know it's weird.
No, that's I mean Just give the person like a good don't you don't know like I mean Trump is notorious for trying to like squeeze people's hands Yeah, just a firm handshake and look at my eyes to me.
Absolutely
Uh, let's see here, uh, Cam also says in Appleton, I chewed out a woman at Cub Foods for picking up meatballs with her hands and popping them in her mouth at the self-serve station at the hot food court.
Who does that?
What's wrong with people?
All right, what's worse handshake or fist bump eight five five seven five two four eight four two more on the other side Ag update news weather in sports.
It's the title ball show of the civic media ready to pursue in truth wherever it may lead and Having fun doing it welcome back the title ball show on the civic media ready network glad to have you along 35 minutes now past the hour three o'clock on a TGIF Friday edition of the all ball show Zomers on the board glad to have you here You say Todd looks like you could rain well in some parts of Wisconsin
I'd be writing to have showers and garden variety thunderstorms moving across the state from north to south throughout the afternoon into this evening.
But that's great to clear out what you think could be clouds in part of Wisconsin.
Now kind of kind of I want to say dark, but it's it looks over a very heavily overcast.
It looks very overcast.
A little gloomy.
That's a good word.
Gloomy here in Madison.
And it's because we are under a air quality advisory today.
wildfires up in Canada.
In the forest up there, Manitoba, Saskatchewan, some of us are still out of control.
Many, hundreds of thousands of acres burned and the smoke is moving south across Wisconsin and that's what makes it look like it's super cloudy right now.
So if you're somebody with asthma or whatnot take care wear a mask or just stay inside if you can it should move out of here by tomorrow with the showers and thunderstorms rolling through could be warmer this weekend and then maybe partner is my granddad used to say partner 90 degrees on on Monday and human conditions Might be into air conditioner weather by the time we get to Friday right now.
We're right the middle of what's worse
asking the question what's worse handshake or fist bump a handshake or a fist bump 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 or you can text us on the civic media app john in edgerton listening on wmdx says fist bumps are worse because the handshake was always to see if your enemy had its weapon
Really?
I did not know that, but... I'm gonna believe John's... This would be a great addition to the Liars Club.
Is John just saying whether I'll read something that's not true or is he giving us a hitherto unknown fact?
I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt and say that it's true.
That's really interesting, John.
I did not... As Johnny Carson once said, I
According to history.com, yes, he's onto something really that a popular theory is that the gesture began as a way of conveying peaceful intentions by extending their empty right hands.
Strangers could show they were not holding weapons and bore no ill will toward one another.
And some even suggest that the up and down motion of the handshake was supposed to dislodge anything hidden in your sleeve.
I would say the handshake only because of the germs post-COVID.
You know, I've gone to fist bumps and after COVID I went a full year with just doing fist bumps because I did like somebody
wiping their mouth or whatever and then shaking hands with me and went a full year just doing fist bumps so the first person that caught me and grabbed my hand and shook my hand was my doctor in a medical office and then what does he do he turns around and washes his hands in the sink so anyway um I think hand shakes are worse
and also Todd to expand on that handshake you put it out to show no weapons it goes back to the medieval days for the toast when you banged glasses you're supposed to splash them into each other's cup to show you're not poisoning your your opponent or your enemy or whomever you're you're dining with so the handshake no weapon toast means you're not you're not poisoning
you know, if you splash a little over into your glass.
Once again, I did not know this, Jim.
Thank you for more hitherto unknown facts.
I appreciate it.
Have a great weekend down there, beautiful Brookfield, all right?
Thank you.
Yeah, thank you very much.
See, we have the best listeners, always serving up great info, things that you knew you could use.
Erick and Lodi.
Let's see on WMDX says a hand shake is worse
I know the bathroom hand washing habits of too many people to not feel icky shaking someone's hands.
I don't know.
I guess I don't think about this as much, but I don't know.
Well, we'll see.
I guess I'm more of a traditionalist.
I don't know.
I grew up there where handshakes were made to be more important, I guess, than maybe some people.
One thing that was a...
Interesting to me in this history.com article about the origin of the handshake Tips us off to some of the way the culture is now where it says a lot about your character or whatever one 1877 Victorian guide counseled its readers that a gentleman who rudely presses the hand offered to him in salutation or too violently shakes it ought never to have an opportunity to repeat this offense If someone gives you a band handshake
Bad handshake, excommunicate them, never again.
All right, that'll wrap it up once again.
We'll back next week with another edition of what's worse here on the show.
I mentioned this earlier and I want to just bring it up here.
Kind of turn a page, I guess you'd say.
Because again, I think that so often these things are happening in Washington, D.C.
and there's a lot of, well, this is never going to affect me.
from the Trump administration and to a degree I get that because many things so far haven't affected some people but I think this kind of fire hose I know I use that term too much but all this news coming out today regarding immigration and migrants we have this guy now who we talked earlier in Milwaukee who was the victim of being beaten up
I guess we have to say allegedly because this guy hasn't had a day in court yet.
And the guy who allegedly beat up this migrant, he is now accused of writing a letter, making it look like it was from the guy he beat up threatening to kill President Trump in hopes that the guy would be deported.
And I guess the guy that beat him up then thought he would get off on these charges, these allegations.
And I kind of mentioned the other part of this in passing.
And I'm looking at CNN right now on their website.
And this is like not even making any of the top headlines right now.
It was announced overnight that the Trump administration is going to pull, get rid of basically the legal status.
of a half a million people who are from countries such as Cuba, Nicaragua, and Venezuela.
We hear a lot from folks about, well, you know, the general they, if they want to be here, they should do it the right way.
Don't come illegal.
Here you have approximately a half a million people who are from countries that are
In some cases, war-torn, that they were threatened.
And they went through the legal process.
It has shown that all of these people, in order to get legal status in this country, had to show financial sponsors.
In other words, and I've gone through this, as someone who worked on immigration issues in the Congressional office for many years, it's not just like, hey, here's Jane or Joe, and they're sponsoring me.
Jane or Joe or whoever it is, they have to submit very extensive bank statements, financial statements, legal statements, proving that they have the resources to financially support an immigrant to this country.
Then the immigrant, the applicant has to submit all the paperwork for themselves.
And then it gets approved.
On top of that, all of these people had to pay their own ticket to get here.
Government did not fly them here, they paid their own way.
They landed, they went through the proper channels, they had their visas, and the visas were for two years.
To say, okay, you have two years to live in the United States legally, while we look at your case and determine whether you can stay here longer term.
And now, last night, the Trump administration announced they are immediately pulling these visas.
Half a million people who've come here the right way, quote unquote.
And now, they either have to immediately find a way, figure out a way to go back to their original country, or risk being arrested, deported, their lives upended.
I just asked that people would stop and put yourself in that individual's place.
You did it the quote unquote right way.
You're a legal immigrant to this country.
You paid your own way.
You found sponsorships here in the United States that will support you while you get your life in order.
You did everything right.
You haven't committed any crimes.
And the Trump administration looks at you and says, get the hell out.
Not exactly the Ellis Island American story.
Not exactly the story of America welcomes the poor, the hungry, the immigrant trying to find a better life.
There is nothing American
about what Donald Trump is doing here.
It is spiteful, it is nasty, and it's just plain mean.
And the reality is, as someone who's been to a foreign country several times in Central America, what this action does is actually increases illegal immigration.
Because people in other countries look at this and say,
Why the heck should I do it the right way?
I have a better chance if I go undocumented, go with a coyote, pay the money to go across the border and live quietly with my family.
When you don't provide a reliable legal path to entry and the people want eventually citizenship, all it does is encourages illegal immigration.
And I just...
I feel terrible for these folks.
And if you don't think that these kind of policies could affect you, ask the people in Seanal County, Wisconsin, just west of Green Bay today, who are now under the scrutiny by the Trump administration for being a sanctuary city.
And they voted for it was 67% of the vote because they passed the resolution being a sanctuary city for the second amendment.
You can't make this stuff up back with your phone calls after this is the title ball show for a Friday on the civic media
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Always a great show to end your day with here on Civic Media.
Right now, talking about this story, the Trump administration cancelling the legal visas of a half a million folks who paid their own way
who did it the right way, who have financial sponsors, who did not commit crimes, and the Trump administration seemingly do it, you know, just because.
855-752-4842.
Let's go to Dolores, listening on WMDX here in Madison.
Dolores, thanks for holding.
What's up?
Oh, thank you, Pat, for taking my call.
You know, I was born in Mexico, and I've been living in the United States for over 30 years, and I'm a U.S.
citizen.
And I'm just wondering, you know, President Trump is doing all this, you know, getting all these, these are revoked and everything.
I'm wondering if our home countries are, you know, start doing the same thing to the U.S.
citizens who live in our countries, like, for example, Mexico, we have a lot of people, a lot of U.S.
citizens who live in different cities, especially like in Tulum.
So I'm wondering if we start doing the same thing in our countries to see how they feel.
I think somebody terminate your, you know, yeah.
And, you know, so I'm just wondering about that.
they
Exactly.
I mean,
Nobody knows what the immigrants going through, you know, I Fortunately, you know being an immigrant myself It could be rough.
It could be very very rough You know turning your life around from one day to another, but you know, I will be You know, I will be for it to see if our Mexico or Belize or Costa Rica, you know
and start doing the 10th thing.
Yes, you see.
You're part of what makes Wisconsin great, Dolores.
So thank you so much.
Have a great weekend.
Thanks for calling in.
Great point.
Great point, by the way.
That is a great point, yeah.
All right.
I want to end this show with this because Phil had him for a pack quite low on his show this morning.
He does this great segment where national days.
And today is national hole in my bucket day.
This is real.
Each year on May 30th, National Whole In My Bucket Day is celebrated as a wacky holiday.
In honor of the Fun Children song, there is a hall in my bucket.
From the great Sesame Street skit who first aired in 1969 on PBS, let's give us a little cut of this, Whole In My Bucket.
This this goes on.
It's a four and a half minute sketch Yeah, and it's fantastic because because the Huntsman is just a dope and and the wife is sitting there the rocking chairs and I can't believe I married this fool I couldn't that's what she's thinking and it eventually to the end of the song, you know The wife was just like just fix it to your Henry to Henry to Henry is fix it to Henry fix it It's one of my favorite all-time sketches on Sesame Street, and I did not know
that they have a national day for it.
So look for the hashtag on social media, hashtag whole in my bucket day.
How about that?
It originates, by the way, in Germany, in the 1700s.
It's about a back and forth conversation between Henry asking Liza advice on how to fix his leaky bucket.
Exactly and all of you out there listening you're welcome because you won't be able to get it out of your head the rest of the day
Parker our new producer engineer in the morning.
He was very entertained by me being entertained by you guys.
I didn't think you'd be as excited about that as you are
I said, no, absolutely.
All right, great show today.
Many thanks to Shelly Pittman, our brand new news director here at Civic Media.
She's going to be great.
I really appreciate her stopping by today.
Zabers is always doing Yoban's work on the board for all of you for listening as well.
Maggie Dawn is next.
Take care of yourselves, everybody.
Watch out for the smoke, which will clear out later today.
Make it a great weekend across Wisconsin, whatever you're fighting for, whatever you believe in.
Do not give up.
Keep bagging your drum and fix that hole in the bucket.
We'll see you
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