Trump’s Pardon Parade and the Battle of Buffets (Hour 2)

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Trump’s Pardon Parade and the Battle of Buffets (Hour 2)

The Todd Allbaugh Show · Wed May 28, 2025

Kathryn Lake

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Good afternoon, everybody.

I'm Todd Albaugh along with Mr. Sam Davison on the board, our producer and engineer in for Mr. Zomers today.

It is six minutes now past the hour of three o'clock on this Wednesday, May 28th, 2025.

It is a great day to be a Wisconsinite, and it is.

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sorry.

I was a little late on that again.

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but it's fine.

He was in the he was in the stable and and now we

Yeah, we had to pull him up get him up to the microphone.

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right Sometimes it's you know camels get older like all of us it takes a while to do their job.

They're very stubborn animals.

Are they?

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Have you ever written a camel?

No, I wish.

Have you?

Yes back in the day the Henry Vila Zoo here in Madison

He had camels and they would give you a ride on the camel.

And my, my mom, God love her soul.

She did not have a lot of money being a single parent, but she would break because the, the admittance to the zoo itself was free.

So that was one of the cool things still is by the way.

And I think it costs, I don't know what it costs, a couple of bucks to ride the camel.

And so yeah, we would, we would a couple of times and we, I love the way we're going to.

Talk about Sesame Street in a minute, but there was another a Trigby Olson senior advisor the Lincoln Project has stuck around here for a bit of hour two Trigby.

Do you remember on Sesame Street the me and my camel me and my camel go into the dentist today?

And they kind of choose

it kind of choose

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it cut like that around and around I love the way a camel choose

Yeah, why and why why why they named cigarettes after camels, but not chew that would be perfect.

It should be chew the camel chew Anyway, should be coming up an hour to it is Sam's well probably the last time on our show

And we always appreciate it when Sam was so kind to stop by.

Zombers had a little thing on appointment today, so he couldn't be here.

Sam was kind enough to stop by.

But Friday is Sam's last day at Civic Media.

I'm very sad about that.

But Sam, will you promise to come back and visit occasionally?

Oh, of course.

All right, good.

How could I just leave this place?

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Probably very easily.

No, no, we won't.

But in all seriousness, you're an enormously talented person.

You're a graduate of University of Madison here.

You are a badger through and through.

You're reliable, you're professional, and it's just been an absolute pleasure to work with you, and you've made our show better.

Oh, thank you, Todd.

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Yeah, absolutely.

Really appreciate you.

Sam's going to go on to finish.

He already has one degree in, was it journalism or communication?

Communication.

Communication.

Now for education to be a social studies teacher.

That's right.

And he's an eagle.

Somebody texted it earlier.

Let's see if I can find that.

They were very impressed that you are an eagle scout.

Let me see if I can

know.

Dave in New Berlin.

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Oh, yeah, there.

Dave in New Berlin says, you're an eagle scout, Sam.

Congratulations.

My stepson is an eagle.

It's a pretty big deal.

It is a very big deal.

Yeah.

So you

end bombers for eagle scouts.

Yeah, that's crazy.

And Luke Mathers.

Three of them here at the station.

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See, so you're trying to remember this was it was Reagan, right?

Trigby because every outgoing president of the United States.

Tradition is that they write a note to the incoming president and they put it in the drawer of the resolute desk or whatever the desk is in the Oval Office and Reagan's

part.

That would be the resolute desk.

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Yeah, part of the part of the.

uh, note that Reagan left for his successor, George H.W.

Bush was, it's tough to soar like an eagle when you're surrounded by turkeys.

Where, where, where, where here, where here is just the opposite.

I'm the turkeys surrounded by eagle scouts.

Oh, you're more than a turkey, Todd.

Come on.

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Well, you know, some people would say.

Anyway, we'll talk, we'll do a little bit more of my favorite Sam coming up in hour two here.

And also talk about some of these Trump pardons very very interesting Scott Most not Scott.

No, it's Scott McFarland is he laid this out at CBS

on this Scott Jenkins part.

And I'm going to play that a little bit later this hour and discuss that a little bit.

But Trayvee Olson, Senior Advisor at Lincoln Project always likes to have a little fun when he can on Wednesdays.

We appreciate about him, that about him.

And at 11 minutes past the hour of three o'clock, it's time once again for What's Worst.

Let's go.

Time once again for what's worse.

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Todd has a fatty liver, non-alcohol fatty liver.

That's very important to emphasize here.

Just your run-of-the-mill fatty liver.

So Dr. Wierley has said I need to start eating better and healthier.

So here now, timely indeed, what's worse, the category today, a la carte menus or buffets.

A la carte menus.

or buffets, 855-752-4842, 855-752-4842.

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Aulacart, or Aulacart menus, I should say, or buffets, what's worse, 855-752-4842.

Trig V, you're a man of the world.

You've traveled a lot.

You've eaten out a lot.

Alucard menus are buffets.

What's worse?

So Alucard's where you're just like picking off the menu.

Yeah, I think it means like you go to like the bigger, you know, you've been to these kind of the fans to your steak places where, you know, the fillet is 75 bucks.

The baked potato is 18, you know, the, you know, or everything is Alucard.

Like, like there's no, you don't order.

an entree and it comes with salad soup and and fries.

So I love this game, this or that.

What's worse, but yes, I'm going to break this down.

I'm going to I'm going to channel my best Claude or what's the open AI GPT

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rock or whatever.

All right.

So this is what I'm going to tell you, Todd.

Yes, there is no right answer to this.

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Really?

All right.

Yeah.

So if you're talking breakfast when you're traveling around the world, you definitely want buffet, not a la carte.

Okay, like particularly in Europe or in most places around the world, breakfast is included in the breakfast buffets are fantastic.

So you definitely want buffet, not a la carte for breakfast.

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Best breakfast buffet in

Europe.

The best one I've ever.

Well, some of them in Asia are incredible.

I would say the best I've ever had in Europe is at the Marriott and Warsaw, Poland.

Phenomenal.

There's also one, I was at one in Copenhagen, although I can't remember the name of the hotel, but they had the best bacon I've ever had in my life.

But you can't probably have bacon because it's not good for fatty liver.

Anyway, so you might want

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a la

carte.

But for lunch and dinner,

a la carte is way better.

If you're going, yeah, you don't want ponderosa or the golden corral.

The golden corral or any of those, right?

No, yeah, definitely not buffet for dinner, but for breakfast, definitely buffet.

So that's my answer.

You're splitting your vote.

Okay, I'll allow it.

I am splitting my road.

What's worse is not as cut and dry as some of your other this or that's What's worse a la

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carte menus or buffets 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 Give us a call.

Mr. Davidson will answer put on the air

for you.

I'm glad that it wasn't the question today wasn't Sam or Zomers

No, I would never do

that against each other winning a fight me or Aaron

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in a fight

Yeah, I'm pretty sure you would win even if I feel like

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zombies would be scrappy

Like let me Adam.

Let me

Adam kind

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of

yeah,

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exactly.

Yeah, you or me trivia.

You'd kick my butt

Yeah,

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you're taught

your bombers Zombers might be a kind of Nia in the groin kind of baby He might go completely postal

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All right back to the submission.

Hey a la carte menus or buffets.

What's worse eight five five seven five two four eight four two eight five five seven five two four eight four two Gordy down in Oregon at Copkeys Greenhouse one of our great sponsors says a la carte is worse Love me a great buffet

or Buffett, whichever you prefer.

DJ in Wausau, listening on WXCO says buffets are way worse unless you like the freshly squeezed.

I'm not going to read that on a different kind of flavor.

Let's put it that way.

Matt in Middleton, listening on WMDX says buffets are much worse as the dude is often of questionable origin and quality.

I love our carts as I like variety in smaller portions.

I'm not sure what that means.

Matt Milton says, oh, he says, I meant to say food, not dude.

He must have been voice texting.

Cindy in Wausau says buffets are worse.

Unfortunately, some people are messy, dirty pigs.

If the buffet is not well maintained, crusty food edges are so not appealing nor are.

Food, poor, and illnesses.

Well, definitely for sure.

Duffy in Mount Horibb on MDX says, Norwegian breakfast buffet for the win.

There you go, Trigvie.

Yes, some of the Norwegian breakfast buffets.

I will tell you this, though.

One thing on buffets, so I will say, there is a buffet at the Venetian in Las Vegas,

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which is

considered the top buffet in Vegas.

And it's as expensive as Alucard, but it's...

unbelievable

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is really good.

All right.

Yeah.

I mean, it's like, yeah.

Yeah.

Well, I got taken there by a client, but

Yeah,

all right

Sam.

I was out there with somebody it was crazy

Sam a la carte menus or buffets You know I haven't really been to that many bad buffets, but really I like a golden corral gets a bad rap.

I've only been there once it wasn't that bad I've usually gone to like a Chinese buffet.

Oh, yeah, and the one in

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Ross

child, Wisconsin I think that was last time I was at one nearby where I grew up.

It's pretty good

Trippy does does raise an interesting point though about having a breakfast buffet versus just any other yeah I think I'm gonna have to agree with him and go a la carte for lunch and dinner sort of meals.

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Yeah, I it is interesting point I think of all the buffets I would say that breakfasts are are the best

I don't know.

I think also a la carte menus are a lot more expensive generally.

So if his money is the issue then a la carte

Yeah, you can get so much food and if you like sneak in Tupperware containers or something I Take a little home with you.

I

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I did a lot of bad buffets while I was covering pioneer sports that used to be in Platteville doing games all around Wisconsin in the Midwest.

And my former broadcast partner, Kevin O'Connor and I always went to a buffet and I'm kind of buffeted out, unless it's like a nice breakfast buffet.

So, all right, very good.

There's what's worse.

Thank you, Trevi, for playing along.

We appreciate you.

Who came up with the topic today?

Our writers.

CP.

No one ever reaches

out to me for this

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or

that topic.

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We are always open.

One of the people at Gordy's greenhouse last week at Copkey's greenhouse said we should have people call in and like on Fridays recommend a topic for what's worse.

Maybe we'll do.

How

about

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Aaron Rodgers and Brett Farve?

That we just had that one yesterday.

I'm serious.

All

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right.

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I'm serious.

It was very hot.

Stay tuned.

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Glad to have you along with us.

It's 22 past the hour of three o'clock on a Wednesday, May 28th.

Sam Davison on the board.

and in for Mr. Zomers who'll be back tomorrow.

Sam is leaving Civic Media on Friday, but we'll have him back from time to time.

Once again, let's take a look at the Sam Davison street cam here in downtown Madison at the corner of Fairchild and State.

Oh, look at that.

A couple of well-mannered, oh, I was gonna say well-mannered pedestrians.

That guy's

Jay Walker.

He's just walking through the middle of the street, not even crossing the road.

He's like crossing diagonally through an intersection.

It's a Jay Walker.

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We have a live Jay Walker on the street cam.

Citizens arrest, citizens arrest, as Barty Fife once said.

And he barely made it.

The cars were this.

Have you noticed that, Sam, we looked down on State Street, how many times do you see people crossing against the light and just expecting people to stop?

Well, especially on State Street, because further down there are almost no cars.

Even if I bike down State Street, if I get further down, there's people just crossing the road without even looking.

People have.

almost run into me when I'm going down the road on my bike.

It's a pet peeve of mine.

Todd Allbaugh

And look, let me preface this by saying I have very pro bike.

I have very pro mass transit.

I think those are things are great as long as it's done well.

But one of my pet peeves in Madison, which a city that I love, but and I want to do a show on this and people have told me, no, don't do it because you'll rile up the pro bike people is I want to do a show live at either the cross of the.

the bike path on Midvale or down here on West Washington.

Because what happens is you have bikers, and I'm not joking around, going, I'm not joking around.

Like 25, 30 miles an hour.

Now, wow.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

You're a smart young person.

When you get to, because there's a button on a post, you're supposed to stop.

push the button the big flashing LED lights come on and that says to the motor vehicles stop and let the person cross but you got these yahoos that think well i'm on a bike well you better stop and they cruise through these these crosswalks without ever stopping without ever pushing the light and then look indignant

if people don't stop for them.

And I'm telling you, somebody's gonna get hurt and then the bike coalition is gonna have a big press conference.

Oh, it's the motor vehicles fault.

And I'm not, look, if they stop and push the light and the cars don't stop, 100% the motor vehicle

fault.

Yeah, the car is gonna win.

The person in the big metal death box is gonna win every time.

Am I wrong about this

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Sam?

About people just randomly crossing?

Right.

I mean, I...

press the button for the lights, wait for the cars to stop, and then I cross on my bike.

But have you seen this?

I've seen some people do it.

Yeah, you're right.

It's crazy.

And I don't know what's up with them.

They need some more healthy fear, I think.

Yes, absolutely.

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Uh, all right, well, uh, that's, that was a tangent I got off on.

Uh, just as you can tell, it's something that grinds my kids, as Luke Mathers would say.

All right, uh, let's get into this.

Let's play this cut.

We'll come back and talk about it here.

Let's talk a minute about these pardons.

Trump continues to, uh, dole out.

Scott McFarlane, great reporter for CBS.

talking about this rural Virginia jury that took two hours to deliberate and convict a former Virginia sheriff, Scott Jenkins, of bribery and fraud.

And now Trump has pardoned.

Do we have time for this whole thing?

Looks like.

All right.

Here we go.

Here's Scott McFarland

from CBS News.

Hey, it's Scott McFarland outside the Department of Justice, which in December scored a big victory in court.

They got a conviction from a jury in rural Virginia, a jury that deliberated roughly two hours before.

handing up their verdict against a man named Scott Jenkins.

I recognize that's not a household name, nor do I suspect you'd recognize Scott Jenkins' picture, but he was the former sheriff in Culpeper County, Virginia, a maga loyalist and ardent supporter of Donald Trump's.

In his criminal case, it was like ripped from the pages of a bad old Western.

He was a sheriff who was accused of taking bribes, cash bribes in exchange for handing out badges to people, deputizing them.

In some cases, prosecutors say those people wanted to be deputized to circumvent the line at TSA at the airport or cut the line and get an earlier COVID-19 vaccine back in the day or to help with navigating, getting pulled over by police or a traffic ticket or a speeding ticket.

And in at least one case, according to prosecutors, it was to help a felon who couldn't have gun rights otherwise restore his right to carry a gun.

Scott Jenkins was pardoned on Memorial Day.

by President Trump.

The president arguing that Jenkins was the victim of a quote, Biden judge and a weaponized Department of Justice.

This exhibit showing Jenkins is from an undercover camera in the court exhibits at trial.

The critics of this say that Scott Jenkins getting a party the day before he is to return to serve his time in prison and report to prison is to put it charitably untraditional that under the system of pardons in the executive branch.

Most applicants have to do that.

They have to apply.

They have to have paid their restitution, showed remorse, showed growth, served some of their sentence or exhausted their appeal remedies.

Scott Jenkins had not done that, had not exhausted his appeal remedies, had not begun serving his sentence.

He was a loyalist to the president.

It also inflames these criticisms of pardons which really sparked around Inauguration Day.

including with the 1,500-plus pardons of January 6th defendants, so many of whom were successfully prosecuted by the Department of Justice.

And then there are the other concerns of critics of the administration who say this term, Biden judge and weaponized Department of Justice, could hobble the justice system moving forward.

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Scott McFarland of CBS News, I wanted to play that whole thing because I thought, here's a guy, and what we've talked about, I'm a critical of CBS News, Paramount Global, because of what their...

Doing to try to gain Trump's favor with this merger they want to do but the reporters at CBS News such as Scott McFarland our top notch and this guy has followed these cases since day one prior to j January 6th and and to hear that the way he reports it and Again, I think they've you'd ask most Wisconsinites on the street.

Don't tell them just lay this scenario out.

Hey if a guy was a sheriff

And he took bribes and fraud and pocketed tens of thousands of dollars that was proven in court.

Do you think this is a guy who deserves to be pardoned?

I think the average Wisconsinite would say no.

And yet Donald Trump is happy to let the guy go scot-free.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.

Back we'll discuss it and more after this is the Todd Albao Show for a Wednesday across Wisconsin on the Civic Media.

Ready now.

Welcome back to the Taliban show on the civic media radio network here on a Wednesday, May 28th, 2025 a little on Wisconsin for you Badger graduate Sam Davidson dialing it up on the board in for Zommer's because we have breaking Badger news Sam just across the wires according to Channel 3000 the channel three CBS affiliate here in Madison Badgers John Blackwell

withdraws from NBA draft and will return to school.

Great news, great news.

A key starter for Wisconsin's men's basketball team is forgoing the NBA draft and returning to school according to multiple sources.

Sophomore, or as some people say, Sophomore.

Which one is correct, do you think?

I say Sophomore.

Yeah, I think if I pronounce it in my head to spell it out.

It's sophomore,

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but I think the I think the announcer for the Badgers.

He's great.

I think it's like, you know, the six five sophomore from, you know, whatever, you know, sophomore,

it makes it sound sophisticated.

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What do you pronounce?

Anyway, sophomore guard John Blackwell is returning to school last season.

Blackwell averaged 15.8 points per game, 5.1 rebounds and 2.2 assists in 37 games played.

Blackwell will have two years of eligibility remaining.

This is huge news for head coach Greg Gard and the Wisconsin Badger Men's basketball team because, and he did it the right way.

I give Blackwell a lot of credit and quite frankly, Gard as well.

And the Wisconsin program, he, Blackwell's an enormously talented guy.

And as much as they wanted him to come back, Blackwell sat down and talked to Greg Gard.

They, Gard said, look,

You know, if you think in your family and your whatever quasi agents think this is right for you, go test the waters.

And Blackwell said that if it didn't work out, if he wasn't going to go through the draft, that he would pull out of the draft and come back and play for Wisconsin, not go into the transfer portal like a lot of people are doing, not from other schools.

And it appears now, according to this report this afternoon, that John Blackwell is a man of his word.

and will return to Wisconsin this fall and into the winter, he'll be a key cog in Greg Gar's program for 25-26.

Good stuff.

I'm not that big of a fan of basketball, but...

You've you've hyped it up enough that I gotta gotta watch and play now.

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It's a big deal He's a really talented person and from all the interviews I've seen just a tremendous individual as well So glad to have glad he tested the waters But very glad that John Blackwell is going to be according to reports this afternoon returning to Wisconsin men's basketball Program talking right now in terms of news about this report from CBS's Scott McFarland on these many pardons

that Donald Trump is handing out, not the least of which is for Scott Jenkins, who from Virginia, a former Virginia sheriff, who was convicted, so I'm not even going to say allegedly, was convicted of receiving bribes, taking bribes and fraud, pocketing tens of thousands of dollars in an exchange deputized, your run-of-the-mill person, was completely unqualified so they could get out of speeding tickets.

Or get faster access through the TSA line This guy's a schmuck and the day before he is scheduled to arrive in prison Donald Trump has decided to pardon him Let him go free Lots of people right now going to these big dinners giving lots of quote-unquote donations and in exchange Donald Trump

is giving them what they want.

It is the big grift.

The Trump presidency, to me, is a bad infomercial with really bad consequences.

855-752-4842.

855-752-4842.

Let's go out to beautiful Cottage Grove.

Fred in Cottage Grove.

Thanks for holding on, Fred.

What's up?

Hey,

guys.

I understand his mom.

gave a million dollars to Trump's campaign.

Yes.

So that's a good return on money.

Cause he just got out of jail and 4.4 million dollar wiped away.

Yeah.

You've got it now.

It's very paid

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to play, pay to play.

Yeah.

It's very transactional right now.

Washington DC and the Trump administration and not just for people in the United States friend with the Qataris, you know, $400 million luxury jet.

Hey, what do you want?

Then they get that what how many billions dollars for a resort golf course out there?

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Yeah, like you say it's pay-for-play and It would be funny if it wasn't so true and so sad and go to impact a lot of people But how would you like I mean well these people that were built out of thousands tens of thousands of dollars and the fact the guy was a sheriff he was entrusted with upholding the law And he broke it blatantly

was convicted by a jury of his peers.

Yeah, they'll consider what, you know, gun control, gotta have your arms, firearms.

Yeah.

Get out there and protect everybody.

Todd Allbaugh

Appreciate the call, friend.

Thank you so much.

855-752-4842.

855-752-4842.

Let's go down to beautiful Milwaukee.

Listening on WAUK in Milwaukee.

Charles, Charles, thanks for calling in.

We'll see you.

Hey, good afternoon, Todd.

So I have a theory behind this.

So, you know, Trump has talked about when he ran in 2016 that he's smart and he knew how to play the tax system.

And that's how he was able to get all the breaks.

I'm wondering if Trump believes that these people that he's pardoned, so the guy that called before me, the guy that he's talking about, that mom paid a million dollars, that was a younger guy.

Oh, was it?

All right, so I got my story.

There's so

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many, I'm getting my stories

crossed, Charles.

So thank you for writing the ship.

Yep, that was a younger guy.

But then you had the sheriff, you had the Christie's, then you have the, there was a politician that he just pardoned today for financial crimes.

So I wonder in Trump's little brain up there, if he thinks that those are not crimes that you should go to jail for.

Right because he doesn't consider those to be true crimes because it's weird because these all of these people that these party Have some type of financial issues that Trump has been accused of defrauding people Not not not not paying people for doing the work on his properties Not paying his taxes, you know, he's still in that audit that's probably been going on for for probably now He probably say 30 years, but I mean it's just

It's crazy, but I wonder if he really thinks that those are not crimes that you should go to jail for because he considers those to be smart crimes.

Todd Allbaugh

Well, yeah, I think you're right Charles because like himself He again was convicted of a jury of his peers 34 felonies Basically got off scot-free and didn't think he deserved any of it even though the evidence was overwhelming against him

Charles there

yeah,

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so I think I think I think you're right Charles that he looks at this through his own lens and say Basically, if it's a white collar what he considers a white collar club crime He doesn't think people should you know go to jail for that

right?

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Yeah, it's only for you know in his words not mine rapists and murderers on crime, right?

I agree with you, but in order to, you know, keep things kosher

on the air,

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we

have to say that he was convicted of, right?

I mean, the judge later said that it was

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statutory rape, but he was technically convicted of a sexual assault.

So again, it's semantics,

but,

you

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know, in these times, Charles, we have to be accurate.

Otherwise,

we make it a call at the

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door.

That's right.

Appreciate the call as always, Charles.

Yeah, right.

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in our universities, our communities and universities.

The Trump administration announced yesterday overnight that they are now looking at and considering and trying to suspend entry for all foreign exchange students.

Not just the ones he doesn't like, not just the universities he doesn't like, like Harvard.

This for everybody.

Did you guys talk about this this morning, Sam and John and Gordy?

No, we didn't.

But the thought occurred to me yesterday.

One of my one of my roommate's girlfriends is from Turkey.

She's going to be going home for a couple of months, pretty quick here, and it's going to be back in August.

But a lot can happen between now and August.

And when I heard that she was going home, it had me a little concerned.

I would be in a place.

Todd Allbaugh

Absolutely.

And what the Trump administration is saying is they now want to have to pause this.

There were pause.

in order to review the social media of foreign exchange students or those who have applied to universities in the United States of America to review their social media.

In other words, they want the Trump administration wants to review this.

And if anybody was a foreign exchange student has said something that the Trump administration deems

too derogatory towards the Trump administration.

No, it's canceled.

You can't come study here.

Which, to me, is the ultimate hypocrisy or irony, perhaps, that people from around the world come here to study democracy, at least up until now, come here to say, hey, in my country,

I'm just going to pick on one because I know people who have come here from Saudi Arabia and studied.

They used to come into my coffee shop here in Madison when I had a coffee shop, a couple of really great people, one of whom happened to be gay and was closeted in his own country.

And it was another one, it was a woman.

And they both said, in Saudi Arabia, we can't

Be ourselves.

We can't speak freely and we came here to get a great education at the University of Wisconsin Madison Because we want to learn and hopefully go back and help change our own countries That is the beauty of

foreign exchange programs or or foreign student programs in this country both high school and at the university level in my opinion It's so much better than putting billions of dollars into arms which by the way I'm all for appropriately and fully funding our military but to think that that's the only way to to

protect democracy around the world or help spread democracy is naive.

I've seen it happen.

The best thing you could do is learn from somebody you trust, right?

If you can have somebody study here and go back to their country and then you plant the seed and then the seed grows, that's how you spread democracy.

And the fact that the Trump administration is now making it again, it's not about

Oh, did you say something bad about the United States, which would be bad enough?

Is did you say something bad about Donald Trump?

Or Pam Bondi or Pete Hegseth or Stephen Miller?

And if so, we don't want you.

I've talked about it a lot before this program.

My life was literally changed by the Central American Scholarship Program.

at the University of Wisconsin, Richland.

When I met people from Central America who were not like me, I ended up going to El Salvador about 39 times.

I learned more about me than I did about them.

They made me learn about me.

Our community of 5,000 people, predominantly white, wasn't enriched.

So all the people around Wisconsin who you have high school foreign exchange programs.

college students.

Is this what we want?

A guy like Trump saying no.

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Todd Allbaugh

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Welcome back to the Tell All Those Show.

The Civic Media writing down working is eight minutes before the hour of four o'clock.

I love that song, Sam Davidson.

Why do you love it?

It's goofy, I guess.

I know.

Todd Allbaugh

Because it gets, I'll guarantee you, there are people that heard that driving around or whatever, and they will not be able to get it out of the head

for the rest of the day.

It is an ear worm, all right.

Todd Allbaugh

And I mean, that's from the debut in 1969 on

Sesame Street?

Sesame Street, Eric.

Wow.

Todd Allbaugh

Don't tell me the public television doesn't produce great stuff Right that's been delivering

year after year.

Yes great content

Todd Allbaugh

and the Muppets and this thing is sung by by three months of the manama not Do-do-do-do are a couple of like pink cows with feathers and then the Manaman not guy.

He's like a doobie hippie with kind of red hair and frizzy and kind of like a

What do you call that?

Like it's more of a more than a soul patch But not really a beard and his eyes are kind of like it's

not like dark glasses.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Todd Allbaugh

Yeah, it's fantastic And he's wearing like a green furries of vest

That's fashion right there.

Todd Allbaugh

That was 1969 fashion right there I like that we were talking about in one of the breaks with Trigve also We're gonna use that earlier than we did but I just thought well now it's in my head

I thought I would share that with

you have to get it stuck in everybody else's head, right?

Todd Allbaugh

It's one of those things you cannot forget much like Sam Davidson who is leaving us on on Friday and So we don't have a lot of time, but let's play a quick round of my favorite Sam 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 or text us on the civic media app Who who or what is your favorite Sam?

But a lot of famous Sam's in the world.

What's your favorite Sam 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 Were you named after anybody in particular?

I don't think so

Todd Allbaugh

really

I think well, I think my parents wanted a biblical name or something so maybe Some Samuel and Bible, but yeah,

Todd Allbaugh

my dad wanted to name me Jesse James

That would have been a

sick name.

That's a true story.

There's a Wisconsin legislator named Jesse James, isn't

Todd Allbaugh

there?

Yes.

Wow.

Todd Allbaugh

And I saw it pretty recently, I think, elected.

And I thought, wow, that could have been me.

My mom said, no.

So we went with Todd.

Yeah.

Just Todd.

Todd Allbaugh

Well, supposedly after Mary Todd Lincoln.

Oh, OK.

Because we're like shirt tail relation.

Interesting.

It may explain why I'm so kooky.

What's your favorite Sam 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 or Texas on the Civic Media app 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 Joshua in Warsaw on WXCO Sam Elliott Sam Elliott famous Sam Roger in Stevens Point Sam Drucker

Do you know who Sam Drucker

is?

It sounds familiar, but I can't put my finger on it.

Todd Allbaugh

Sam Drucker is a character from Green Acres,

the

Todd Allbaugh

CBS sitcom back in the late 70s or 60s, early 70s.

And he was the father to Arnold the Pig.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Sam Drucker ran the general store.

Drucker's general store.

OK.

Yeah.

That was, that was, that was fantastic.

Your favorite Sam, 855-752-4842.

855-752-4842.

Sean in Richland Center on WRCE says Sam Kittison.

The late, I believe he's dead now, isn't he?

Same comic.

He was, he was, he was the screamer.

He was that was I did he scream comedically or yes, okay, and I could do it for about five minutes And then I'm like, you know,

what do you think?

Todd Allbaugh

You know, it's just constantly screaming wearing

his voice out.

Todd Allbaugh

Yeah, but I guess Sean was his cup of tea and that's fine There's no judgment favorite Sam's eight five five seven five two four eight four two eight five five seven five two four eight four two How about a hot Sam?

I'm not being goofy here.

Sam's looking at me like, you know, are you flirting or what?

No!

Hot Sam was looking up, they had him at Westtown Mall.

It was the precursor to Auntie Ann's pretzel.

It was like a Hot Sam pretzel, and you put it, oh my gosh.

Oh, they got a little mascot.

Todd Allbaugh

Yes!

See,

Todd Allbaugh

look, Hot Sam.

It was great.

I should buy you a Hot Sam t-shirt.

Had be that'd be wonderful.

Todd Allbaugh

I think

that's I'd wear it

Todd Allbaugh

everywhere.

All right.

We're gonna we're gonna get Sam a hot Sam t-shirt Barb and a walkie-shot.

It says Uncle Sam.

Well, how about that?

There we go Uncle Sam a tray in Sun Prairie Swamwise Gomghi, of course, okay

Samwise Ganshee Oh Lord

Todd Allbaugh

of the Rings.

I guess I didn't know how to pronounce I'm not sure if the spelling is correct, but probably on me.

Let's see here Trey

No, this is from Adam from Oregon.

Samwiches.

Samwiches.

I like it.

I like it.

That's a

Todd Allbaugh

good Sam.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.

If you want to weigh in quick or text us your favorite Sam.

You've got your own club, Sam's

Club.

Sam's Club, yeah.

It's been quite a while since I was in the Sam's Club, but.

Todd Allbaugh

Now, one of my friends long time, Sam Gold, great Sam, but he's gotten on the Trump train.

So

maybe not so great.

Todd Allbaugh

Still a nice person.

You have a second vote for Sam the Eagle.

Oh, Sam the Eagle.

Todd Allbaugh

Yes, Sam the Eagle.

That's a fantastic Sam as well.

Well, again, Sam, in all seriousness, it's been an absolute joy and pleasure.

You're an enormously talented person.

And whoever gets you as their teacher, you're going to be fantastic because you're a great storyteller.

And there's not a lot of those around.

And you are one of them, my friend.

So thanks for everything.

Yeah, it's been great, Todd.

I'm going to miss this place.

Todd Allbaugh

Well, we're going to have you back whenever you want to come back.

Maybe when Todd takes a vacation someday, we'll have a Sam Davis and guest host.

Ooh.

Want to guest host the show?

I could sure try.

Todd Allbaugh

That'd be great.

All right.

There you go.

Done.

Done and done.

Well, great show today, everybody.

We appreciate Trigby Olsen being here.

Pat Krightlow, a special appearance by Dr. Lirely.

Catch your show on Saturdays on Civic Media.

And of course, Mr. Sam Davidson, as well as all of you for listening.

Zomers is back tomorrow.

Thank you, everybody.

We appreciate you.

Keep banging your drum.

See you tomorrow.

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