On CBS and Maintaining Journalistic Integrity (Hour 1)

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On CBS and Maintaining Journalistic Integrity (Hour 1)

The Todd Allbaugh Show · Mon Apr 28, 2025

Kathryn Lake

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Good afternoon, everybody.

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It is six past the hour of two o'clock on this Monday, back to work, back to school, April 28th, 2025.

It is a great day to be a Wisconsinite here at the World Headquarters of Civic Media, downtown Madison.

Overcast, a very high overcast skies, partly sunny, sunny, some may call it here.

in downtown Madison.

Big show for you today.

Gonna talk about some of the news headlines over the weekend.

Take a look at what's happening to Washington, D.C., your calls as well.

And gonna talk sports with our sports reporter, Mike Clemens, in just a moment.

But Mr. Zomber is, first of all, we have to get right to a special weather statement.

Eyes to the sky today.

We'll tell you the current temperatures, it's 74.

degrees right now in Madison, Wisconsin, contrast that to 42 in superior right now.

So quite the quite the contrast across the state of Wisconsin.

So of course that sets up a weather situation.

Let's get right to a special weather statement at this hour, particularly affecting our listeners in the FHR in the Wisconsin Rapids area and also over WCFW the tap over in the Chippewa Valley area.

This national weather service, a strong thunderstorm impacting parks of Clark.

And Jackson counties just finishing up in those counties right now a while ago a strong storm was just over Black River Falls moving northeast at 55 miles per hour with this storm wind gusts of up to 50 miles per hour and half in jail This is a radar Indicator indicated storm as far as impacts gusty winds could knock down tree limbs and blow around unsecured objects minor

damage to vegetation is also

possible.

And so whether service asking people in the path of the storm to head indoors considers taking shelter in an inside building can tell you looking at live weather radar right now that storm they've been tracking is moving as we say 55 miles per hour.

It's now right around the the Neilsville area and heading towards Marshfield.

So people the Marshfield McMillan Stratford area.

This is just south and west of Warsaw.

The storm seems to be heading on track to

go pretty close, not directly into the Wausau area, so people will see NWXCO up in Wausau area.

Be aware, this storm is moving towards you.

The storm that was just south and east of Nicosia and Wisconsin Rapids, that is now mostly heavy rain as most of the thunderstorm activity has dissipated.

Not a severe storm at this point, but there is a very strong thunderstorm over the Sparta area moving towards Tomah right now, just to the east of La Crosse area.

And then just north and west of Osceo and kind of more towards the just east of Eau Claire to their cell there.

So be aware, keep an eye to the sky.

What's going to happen is as these clouds and parts of Wisconsin dissipate, that allows the sun to come in, which unfortunately on a day like today is a bad thing because that's going to make the air less stable.

And that has the potential of fueling these storms across the state of Wisconsin.

later on this afternoon and then even into the overnight hours tonight.

So keep your radios tuned to your favorite weather source or if you have a weather alert system on your phone, your weather radio, keep it intact.

Again, some places are going to see nothing.

Other places may see some very, very strong storms and severe weather.

We want to keep you updated here at Civic Media.

10 past the hour of two o'clock.

Let's go right now to our top story of the day.

It took Wisconsin by storm.

That's the NFL draft held in Green Bay over the weekend.

No one covered it better.

No one gave us the play by play better than our sports reporter, Mike Clemens, from Lambeau Field all week long.

He's kind enough to join us via phone.

Mike Clemens, have you recovered from the big NFL draft?

Maybe by Wednesday or Thursday or so, right?

A lot of hours and stuff, but good stuff.

You know, the best thing too about our stations to our civic media stations is because you get these updates from Brittany or Corey or the rest of the staff and whether it's on the app or just going across the state, you know, 23 stations, because I'm driving between Green Bay and Milwaukee and Madison and, you know, cover the teams.

It helps me plan out like, all right, I better get an early start to go on the draft.

Except for that cold rainy day Friday this thing drew 600,000 fans incredible second only to When it was in Nashville and Nashville was such a great backdrop on TV with the national bars the country music Everything that they had going on there that was back in 2019 Over 600,000 fans even with that bad day.

Do you realize?

Now that in just three days Green Bay and the draft drew more people than it takes

10, 11 days through either Summerfest or the Wisconsin State Fair.

Wow.

Todd Allbaugh

That's

a huge draw,

Todd Allbaugh

right?

Yeah.

And how cool was it just, I mean, for those of us who weren't working it like you were, Mike, to watch this on, I spent a lot of my time on ABC, flipped back to ESPN a little bit, but to see all these Wisconsin references, to hear the Packers mentioned so often, I mean, just what a great boom for Wisconsin, the Green Bay, Greater Green Bay, Fox Valley area.

Yeah, so you know the Packers wait they don't trade up They wait till the their their time comes up at the rule of the 23rd draft overall on Thursday night in the first round and they take this Matthew Golden kid out of Texas 429 speed really fast good hands as well has to be if the Packers are gonna Use you know a first round pick on a wide receiver.

They had not done that since was it 2002 that they drafted Given Walker.

Yeah, it's been so long

Since the Packers used the first round pick that Brett Farve and Aaron Rodgers are waiting for on a wide receiver, that the kid that they picked, Matthew Golden wasn't even born then.

I love it.

That's how long it's been.

And, you know, he was on a lot of people's death charts, but there were some other moves that were made up there, so he was still on the board.

And so Goody can see that.

And then he used his third pick, his third round pick, on another wide receiver out of TCU, saving you on Williams.

Now, how's this for Karma?

We said, so how do you think you'll get along with Matthew Golden?

He says, you know, when you're in college and then sometimes they come to you and say, Hey, we've got some, you know, some high school seniors that are looking at, you know, considering schools, could you put one up for the night?

Guess who we put up for the night.

Matthew golden.

Wow.

Wow.

And I'll hear the three years later, they're going to be teammates.

Todd Allbaugh

Yeah.

So just all kinds of stories.

So, you know, Mark Murphy with that terrific announcement.

to tell, you know, 200,000 people Thursday night.

All right.

And with the 23rd pick, the Green Bay Packers, we've taken a wide receiver and people get all white, you know, crazy.

And then they, that kid comes out with the gold coat and this Matthew Golden.

I mean, like seven, eight years ago, Todd, him and his mom are living in the back of a Walmart.

Wow.

Family took him in Houston area to help him get through high school to qualify to get into college.

Plated Houston, then he transferred to Texas, to the Longhorns.

They had an offensive program that's a little bit better.

And then this one that they picked in the third round, Savian Williams from TCU, that's a huge passing program.

I mean, I was checking out their season last year.

They were throwing the ball anywhere from 35 to 50 times a game.

And he played a lot of quarterback at high school.

I asked him about it on the Zoom call that we had.

And so he's kind of a gadget.

He's six foot four, same size as Christian Watson.

Not as fast, like 4-4 speed.

You know, the scouts, they kind of remind you of Cordell Patterson, the former Viking and Patriots, who he could be a kick returner.

Now he could be a wildcat guy.

He threw a touchdown pass out of the wildcat last year for TCU.

So a versatile guy that Matt LaFleur is excited about because I can use this guy in a jet sweep.

I can use him for a variety of ways in the backfield.

Todd Allbaugh

Really, and you talk about these stories.

We're talking to Mike Clemens, our sports reporter here at Civic Media, who was at the draft all week long, long doing Yeoman's work for us reporting on the draft.

You talk about these stories, Mike.

And that's, we had Brandon Ewingon, the brother of Brady Ewing, former Badger and NFL player.

He talked about what it was like from a family perspective and watching your brother get drafted and the impact.

And that for me, I think, is one of my favorite parts of watching the draft are these

behind the scenes stories of what some of these kids have come up from and through.

And one of the great stories, and I want to, if you can talk a little bit about this guy, Baron Sorrell, who waited around, who was there on night one and two, but never got drafted.

And then he makes a surprise appearance, it was third or fourth round, and gets drafted.

I thought that was a great story.

And if there's anything I'm a little bit critical of.

is like, why only 16 players showed up for the first round on Thursday night when there's 32 teams picking?

And if you're the fans, you know, you're standing out there, I mean, that's what you want.

You want to see these players in person and their moment.

Yeah.

And so many of these guys like to stay home.

Is it because they don't want to be embarrassed?

Part of it is because I don't think they can afford it.

Right.

But there's Barry and Sorrell out of Texas.

He asked his dad, like,

Listen, I think I'm going to go in the second or third round.

Can we go to Green Bay?

So they had to, you know, they had to pay for it and they brought along the family.

They had like eight people.

He didn't get picked Friday night.

So then they said, well, we might as well stay.

We're here, right?

I don't mind when I go.

I want that moment on the stage.

So then all of a sudden, Roger Goodell, he's got other people filling in, and they didn't have that many former players reading off names this weekend either.

But when Goodell finds out, hey, this next kid coming up here at 124 in the fourth round, is actually, he's in the green room, commissioner.

Oh, I'll read this.

So he goes out with a card, and he says, Barry and Sorrell, the Green Bay Packers select, Barry and Sorrell from Texas, and he's here, and he came out.

and brian good again to gm said i had no idea who's in town i just right he was the next player my draft board you know we we needed to defend event a rush guy so then sorrell after he gets his shirt and his cap and a hug from the commissioner he goes walking across the street he goes inside lambo field

Todd Allbaugh

while he

does a lambo leap and then he comes and sees us

up there in the podium in the media auditorium and the family shuffles in and after he talks about you know his visit he had with the Packers what he did it you know as a past rusher for Texas and six sacks last year and 44 tackles then they said but you've got a lot of family here and friends that must mean a lot to you he breaks down crying I mean he for a minute because it's that passionate and at the end of the day

the packer scouts keep telling you over and over again you know you can run a great time at the combine you can lift weights you can have you know x amount of stats and break school records but we're looking for guys that not only love football but they need football they need football because those are the guys when you get them into green bay they're going to continue to work and improve they're not going to just stop working when they get their first couple million dollars

They are adamant about about getting to a Super Bowl.

Todd Allbaugh

Yeah.

Jason Willte had a story at Channel 3000 over the weekend.

This quote from Matt LaFleur.

I'm sure you were there for as well.

I thought this really epitomized this Baron Sorrell kid.

Well, Fleur said quote of this kid.

He said, he's a big time culture guy.

We had a couple of guys from Texas come through here before the draft.

We always ask these guys, who are the best practice players?

Or if you're going to go to a team, who are you bringing with you?

They consistently, unanimously, always pointed to him.

I think that speaks volumes not only the type of player he is, but the type of teammate and type of person and competitor he is.

I thought that was a great

quote.

His teammate

Todd Allbaugh

was the number one pick, Matthew Golden.

I just thought that that gave me chills to hear that because I mean, that's the kind of guy we want at Green Bay, right?

I mean, those are the kind of competitors you want for any team.

But I mean, it's really cool that Green Bay picks him up.

I want to make sure we get to the bucks.

But just your 30 second wrap, Mike Clemens, how do you grade the Packers overall draft this year?

It's a pack or draft.

I'll give it a B B plus hey, I'll take that whether that gets them over the top You know and give me six months to figure that out.

Todd Allbaugh

Yeah, about a minute left here News broke about 30 minutes ago bucks confirm Dame is out the rest of the season torn ACL bucks just seem to be snake bit

Yeah, the last night it's in the first quarter and the Bucks were go back on the defense and to me looking at the tape Todd it looked like Dame's right foot kind of slipped a little bit on the court He went to catch himself with the left foot.

He ends up paring his left Achilles tendon So he had the blood clot in the right leg now it's a left tendon.

He could be out a year He turns 35 this summer bucks over 113 million dollars

It's a mess.

Todd Allbaugh

It's a mess.

You always help us straighten out.

Thanks, Mike Clemens.

Have a great day.

We'll check in with you soon in line.

Mike Clemens, our sports reporter on the draft.

Stay tuned.

Kathryn Lake

More after this on The All Bulls Show in Civic Media.

Todd Allbaugh

Welcome back to the Toddleball Show on the Civic Media Birdie Network.

22 now past the hour of two o'clock on a Monday afternoon, the 28th of April, 2025.

Glad to have you along.

Thanks to Mike Clemens.

Many thanks.

Our great sports reporter, Mike Clemens.

And I'm sure he had a great time, but I think a lot of how, oh, you know, you get to be at the draft.

I mean, lucky you.

You have an easy, you get paid to do that.

And I know he loves it.

But I think a lot of people don't understand, particularly a guy like Mike.

I didn't have time to ask him, but I bet he wasn't just meandering around, having hot dogs.

I mean, they're in, I mean, because it was held in Green Bay, he told us this last week, they're in kind of their usual room, like in Lambo.

I don't know if there's any windows or not.

And they're working.

They're working their rear ends off to, to get these cuts, to get these stories.

And sure, it's cool that you're there, but.

I mean, just nobody works harder at these things and has the inside track better than Mike Clemens.

And

Todd Allbaugh

we just, we appreciate him so very

much.

Keeping the inside track on anything, but I mean, I would say particularly modern sports with the celebrity status of so many athletes, it really takes a lot of work to cultivate those relationships.

Yeah.

And basically you just have to always be on top of it and always be in the right place at the right time.

And.

It's a skill that he's developed.

Todd Allbaugh

No, he's, uh, he's fantastic.

We always appreciate him stopping by Mike Clemens.

Uh, as we said, the bucks just to clarify may have slipped up on the, on the other side, but it was confirmed about a half hour ago by the Bucks organization that Damien Lillard has a torn ACL

Kathryn Lake

or Achilles.

I said,

Todd Allbaugh

I said ACL, it's a torn Achilles.

So, so, uh, thank you very much.

I appreciate the, uh, the, the clarification.

There's armor.

So, uh, wow, as we said,

with Mike.

I mean, this team, the Bucks, they're just, this is a must-get-win game now in Tuesday in Indianapolis.

So we'll see.

As Yana said earlier, one of Mike's reports, they have a great attitude.

Next man up, you gotta find a way to win, but their backs are against the wall and lots of money on the table, as Mike said, and now Dame out for well into next year, if not the entire year.

We shall see, but the Milwaukee Brewers have the day off, travel day for them.

They're going kind of sort of back home, back to the Midwest, but going to Chicago.

They start a three game series with the Chicago White Sox tomorrow night across the Civic Media Brewers Rating Network, 605 pregame show at Richland Center, Oshkosh Park Falls, Hayward Racing, Kenosha Brewers taking on the White Sox for three games starting tomorrow at 605.

And then finally,

They're back in Milwaukee on Friday for a series against the dreaded Chicago Cubs.

The Cubbies in town started on Friday.

So Brewer's got to win last night.

Hopefully they can continue on into Chicago tomorrow night.

Want to get into a couple of newsy things for you over the weekend.

Going to talk about, we started this on Friday, major things ahead for Congress because sometimes some of these

or politically media sexy things take precedent.

And we're going to get into that.

But I want to start with 60 minutes.

For those of you who watch the broadcast, still one of the most highly rated programs on television, 60 minutes every night on the Tiffany network, CBS.

In the last minute, Scott Pelley, longtime 60 minutes correspondent.

At one time, the evening news anchor on CBS, and he closed the show.

We're going to play it and we're going to talk about it here.

60 minutes.

Pardon me.

Here's Cappelli in the last minute of 60 minutes.

In tonight's last minute, a note on Bill Owens, who, until this past week, was executive producer of 60 Minutes.

He was our boss.

Bill was with CBS News nearly 40 years, 26 years at 60 Minutes.

He covered the world, covered combat, the White House.

His was a quest to open minds, not close them.

If you've ever worked hard for a boss because you admired him, then you understand what we've enjoyed here.

Bill resigned Tuesday.

It was hard on him and hard on us, but he did it for us and you.

Stories we pursued for 57 years are often controversial.

Lately, the Israel Gaza War and the Trump administration.

Bill made sure they were accurate and fair.

He was tough that way.

But our parent company, Paramount, is trying to complete a merger.

The Trump administration must approve it.

Paramount began to supervise our content in new ways.

None of our stories has been blocked, but Bill felt he lost the independence that honest journalism requires.

No one here is happy about it, but in resigning bill proved one thing He was the right person to lead 60 minutes all along I'm Scott Pele.

We'll be back next week with another edition of 60 minutes

Todd Allbaugh

and thus close last night's episode of 60 minutes on CBS last night the great Scott Pele I Thought it was particularly well written and delivered as Pele always does.

I just I really

fell in love with Scott Pele's delivery and anchoring abilities during the 2016 election when he was anchoring the CBS News because he really stepped in to this in my opinion Edward R Murrow asked Role of course Edward R Murrow the longtime CBS man who ended up losing his job because back in his day he took on the company basically for similar reasons and then that

The book I was a book first in the movie good night and good luck and now it's a Broadway show with George Clooney and the title character Out in in New York And so there's a history at CBS of people just saying that telling it like it is And we talked about this I know last week

But for this to come to a head over the weekend and for 60 minutes and and Kelly to say this on the air on their own network and and call out their own network, I thought was extraordinary.

I thought it took courage and it was refreshing and kudos to them.

We're going to come back and talk about this.

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What does this really mean in the context of what Trump's plans are long term?

What does it mean for democracy?

Come on back state to now a little egg update, sports and weather.

You're listening to the Tonal Ball Show on the Civic Media Radio Network.

It's not almost so of the civic media-reading number.

35 now past the hour of two o'clock on Monday, April 28th.

Kind of a chill vibe there at

Zombers.

What do you dial up?

Truth and honesty by Aretha Franklin.

Todd Allbaugh

Oh, very nice.

I didn't know that was

the

Todd Allbaugh

beginning

of

Todd Allbaugh

truth and honesty.

Wow.

See, I learned something every day just from our great producer, Aaron Zombers.

Think what you can learn.

No, most of the people tuning in probably have a better music knowledge than I do.

But it's always, that's one of my favorite parts that occasionally Zombers will surprise me.

And sometimes it'll be a good song.

Most of the time it is.

Most of the time it is.

Sometimes it's not.

A quick weather update for you as Brittany Merleau there in the break talked about very unsettled weather today across the state of Wisconsin.

Current temperatures 74 degrees here in the capital city of Madison, Wisconsin.

Meanwhile, in Superior, Wisconsin, it's 42.

That is absolutely.

fertile breeding ground

Larger cell, almost a line, really, that goes from Abbotsford down through, say, McMillan and then Marshfield area all the way down to Pittsville, which is just west of Wisconsin Rapids.

These storms are moving to the east, northeast, around 55 miles, probably 50 miles per hour, and have produced up to a half inch size hail.

So it's just under the technically the severe thunderstorm.

They have to have 75 mile per hour winds for it to be technically a severe thunderstorm.

But at 50 miles per hour, it's nothing to mess around with.

So if you're the Wausau area or just south and west of Wausau, say in McMillan and Marshfield, all the way down to Pittsville, that area and then over towards Stevens Point even.

and just north of Wisconsin Rapids.

All that area right now, you are the area for some strong storms right now.

So just be aware of that and keep it tuned to your favorite weather source because things are going to get better.

You look around Wisconsin like you're in Madison, you say, oh, it's great.

The sun's kind of out.

It's a warm day.

Unfortunately, when you have this type of fronts moving through and it's 74 in Madison, 66 in Milwaukee, 67 in Green Bay,

and then 42 and superior.

What's going to happen is when the sun comes in this afternoon, it's actually going to warm up and destabilize the atmosphere.

And so there is a chance across the state of Wisconsin at varying times between late of this afternoon, all the way through the early morning hours of tomorrow morning to have strong storms.

There is a chance of tornadoes in some areas.

Again,

don't want to hype it up too much.

There might be parts of Wisconsin that see a little to anything.

There are parts of Wisconsin that could see all the way to a tornado.

So just be aware, be mindful and keep an eye to the sky and be aware of the weather as we go through this afternoon tonight and into the early morning hours tomorrow.

Before the break, we played that the clip of Scott Pelley last night on 60 minutes calling out his own network CBS for.

basically forcing the resignation of Bill Owens, the longtime executive producer of CBS's 60 Minutes, a great article in Cord Cutter News, kind of an insider media website, great website actually, cordcutternews.com.

And they talk about Owens departure, making it a significant moment for 60 Minutes.

A program synonymous with investigative journalism for nearly six decades.

And what Pelley did not touch on there in calling out his network last night was that President Trump has sued CBS for 20 billion with a B $20 billion over an October 2024 interview with then Vice President Kamala Harris.

Trump alleges.

The interview was deceptively edited.

It claims CBS has vehemently denied.

And all accounts, eventually 60 minutes did release the footage.

And it's not deceptive, it's not deceptive at all.

What happened was as almost every interview was 60 minutes, the correspondent sits down with the subject, the interview might go a half an hour, it might go an hour.

depending upon how much time the person being interviewed said they'd sit for.

Well, very rarely, most of these stories on 60 minutes go 10-ish minutes, somewhere in there, and so you have to edit that down.

And so, like almost every other story, the profile on Vice President Harris got edited down.

Trump claimed that they edited it to change the meaning of what she said.

When you saw the unedited video, it was clear that was not the case.

Back to this article in court cutter news Owens resignation also coincides with a critical juncture for CBS's paramount our part of parent company paramount Sherry redstone Paramount's controlling holder is reportedly seeking Trump administration approval for the sale of her media conglomerate to skydance media media led by David Ellison

son of Oracle founder Larry Ellison New York Times reported in January that Paramount was in settlement talks with Trump and the Owens had reads the head of the Owens who was running 60 minutes had resisted apologizing for the Harris interview as part of any potential deal NBC News has not independently verify these claims

In his memo Owens remained defiant about the mission of CBS CBS and 60 minutes saying quote We will continue to cover the new administration as we report on future administrations We'll report from war zones investigate injustices and educate our audience in short 60 minutes will do what it has done for 57 years on quote that from a memo obtained by NBC News from Owens Wendy McMahon

president and CEO of CBS News informed employees via an email of Owen's departure, praising his contributions.

Apparently Wendy McMahon has been very much on the side of 60 minutes and Bill Owens.

But again, to kind of summarize this, Bill Owens, who runs 60 minutes, was asked by the head honchos at Paramount.

Hey, you know, can you do us a solid Trump wants an apology?

as part of this settlement.

It's not just about the money.

Can you just apologize for what you guys did at 60 Minutes and then we can move on?

And Owens to his credit said no.

We didn't do anything wrong.

And I'm not gonna start apologizing just because my parent company wants to make a deal, a merger and make a lot of money and lay off more employees to satisfy Trump.

That is that is bending the knee to our institutional integrity And there are not a lot of people left in my opinion in this business in the media business who are interested in institutional integrity and maintaining truth And Bill Owens is one so he said no We're not gonna apologize at 60 minutes for what we did

And so the head honchos at Paramount decided to put on more pressure.

It's unclear whether Owens was going to get fired or whether he did this to send a message.

And there was this meeting as we reported last week, a meeting with all the correspondents of 60 minutes and Owens, which he told them first.

And as Scott Pelley said, nobody was happy about this at 60 minutes.

But it sends an important message this from another place called the rap.

It's an online.

I follow him on Twitter.

It's an industry magazine if you will site Says according to the rap this is a different story now, but it's connected.

I'm gonna tell you how Says days after president Donald Trump's victory in 2024 is presidential election Warner Brothers Discovery CEO David Zell off

expressed enthusiasm about a new administration potentially creating greater, quote, opportunity for consolidation, unquote, that would, quote, provide a real positive and accelerated impact on this industry that's needed, unquote.

Zolov did add that it's, quote, too early to tell, unquote, whether these hopes would materialize.

But he missed a more significant disclaimer.

that merger and acquisition dreams can quickly become nightmares if your news organization angers the president.

That's chilling to me.

The story goes on to say CEOs might eventually get what they want in negotiating deals.

The main question is whether they'll be forced to throw their news operations under the bus

in order to achieve those aims.

That from the rap.

And this is where it gets dystopian.

That major news corporation, really entertainment, really, of which their news divisions are a part of the entertainment, in order for these deals to get approved by Trump-controlled FCC,

They're going to have to be willing to compromise and capitulate to a certain degree To not tick off Trump and his administration And this becomes a slippery slope Because you have good people like the folks at CBS 60 minutes

And I would say the vast majority of the reporters are fair and great news people.

We, we, uh, had their story in the Wisconsin judge last week from, uh, uh, uh, I can't say his name.

I had on the tip of my tongue.

See mad cow's armors.

That's what it is there.

Uh, Scott McFarlane, Scott McFarlane, great reporter, follows the justice department, followed all the J six stuff, tells it exactly like it is, has great integrity as a reporter.

But how many of these people are going to be allowed to tell the truth, even when it ticks off Trump?

Without the parent company, whether it be Paramount, whether it be Discovery, Warner Brothers, Comcast, guys, gals, can you just tone it down a little bit there on that story?

And people are going to have to decide.

News people are going to have to decide what is more important to me.

My paycheck, paying my bills, supporting my family, or my internal morals and character, my journalistic integrity.

And again, I bring you back to Naib Bukeli, the president of El Salvador, who calls himself the cool dictator, quote unquote.

One of the first things Bukele did when he became president in 2019 in El Salvador was to start intimidating the two major newspapers sources in El Salvador La Prensa gráfica and Dia de hoy La Prensa was considered a more conservative paper.

La Dia de hoy was the more liberal paper loosely

And they started writing when, when he started, when Naim Bukeli started intimidating the Salvadoran Supreme Court.

They started writing articles, op-eds on him.

And Bukeli basically intimidated those two things to become their cheerleaders for Bukeli.

Trump has seen the blueprint in El Salvador and he's trying to do it right here in the United States of America.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2, back after this in the civic medium.

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52 minutes now past the hour of two o'clock coming up at three o'clock, a little news, weather and sports update 40, giving you a traffic report after the top of the hour, a little what's worse for you as well.

Right now, talking about what Scott Pelley did on 60 Minutes last night, calling out his own network, Paramount.

For putting pressure on executive producer Bill Owens to compromise their journalistic integrity Owens resigned and Then talking about this larger story at the rap other corporations like Discovery Time Warner Basically having to say well, you know to get some of these larger corporation deals done was best for our corporation We may keyword may

Have to appease the Trump administration when it comes to our news division LA Tom watching on YouTube Saying he's going to cancel his paramount plus plus membership today Well, LA, I don't know you need to do that number.

I subscribed to Paramount He's I'm a big Star Trek fan.

That's where all the Star Trek stuff is that and other other programs as well I would say

Just my personal opinion, I think that's the kind of thing you do after we find out that Paramount has stopped a story at CBS.

I think we have to stand by Scott Pelley and those journalists at CBS in 60 minutes who are still doing by their own reporting the mission that Pelley said last night, none of our stories have been stopped.

It hasn't come to that yet.

It's kind of a clarion call.

Right.

So I think we have to continue to support journalists who are doing good things at Paramount or CBS or other places.

I think when you cancel subscriptions is when it comes out and they say that something's been stopped at the news division, just my two cents, eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two.

Let's go to the phone lines.

Gene up in beautiful Eau Claire on WCFW, the tap.

Gene, any strong storms come through there yet?

Not yet, but I have to tell you, you're doing an outstanding job there, sir.

Todd Allbaugh

Well,

thank you.

Getting this information to the people, because this is the worst thing that they can start doing is messing with the press and messing with information.

And I do, by the way, have that good night and good luck.

And another thing, too, that I think is really important is what people can do and not stop their...

subscriptions, but what they can do is write to these people and say, hey, we're watching, we appreciate you giving us the truth, and that's why we support you, and we want you to keep on giving us the truth.

Just like civic media, given the truth, outstanding coverage, outstanding talk shows, and the people behind the machine they're answering the phones and keeping the shows running.

and

um

so i just want to say that and and really and seriously this is unbelievable and what i'm keep up the protests i'm watching these protests i love them signs get those signs out there trump takes this because he can't hide it

Thanks, guys.

Keep up the great work.

Todd Allbaugh

Love you.

Bye-bye.

Thanks, Gene.

Have a great day.

Thank you so much.

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Tools go to Madison WMDX Joe in Madison Joe.

We were calling your name out on Friday or Thursday for the draft because you were on, you called in when Matt Ross Child was guest hosting last week and this great backstory on Vince Lombardi and the Packers.

And we used, we credited you and we told that we told, I didn't retell as well as you could, but I appreciate you calling into Matt's show and we gave you.

credits, so thanks for that.

Thank you.

Thank you for that.

It's a great story and it really focuses on the fact that if you want to talk about diversity, equity, and inclusion, the star of that in our state was Vince Lombardi

Kathryn Lake

and look

at the results.

The result has been fantastic.

If people want to check out that article, it's at Packers.com and it's really, really good.

So I'm happy to talk more about that.

I just wanted to add in on the 60 minutes thing and you know, I shouldn't laugh because this is awfully, awfully serious, but it just gives you a sense of just how far down the rabbit hole

we have gone.

There was apparently a first, this is out of LA Times dot com.

And they were talking about the fact that this is this lawsuit has been ongoing, and that Trump has doubled down on the amount that he's requesting.

I believe it is 20 billion

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that

he's now looking at.

And this is the part that just killed me, Todd.

He apparently Trump supporters were looking at the fact.

First off, both Trump and Harris were allowed the opportunity to be interviewed on 60 minutes.

Harris went on.

Trump declined, okay?

He had his form and he declined.

Okay, so her interview ran on 60 minutes and they pulled a clip from what they had from the whole interview because as you know, our interview, they don't air the whole hour usually.

It's edited down.

This is standard industry practice.

It's not particularly new to 60 minutes.

Everybody does this.

You do it if you're editing an interview.

Everyone does.

So in any rate, the point of view I would like to add in is just this comment so we know what we're dealing with, which is

There was a chunk that was aired on Sunday morning shows and then another chunk that was aired on 60 minutes and they are all, you know, get their undies in a bundle because they said there was a different answer that was given.

So in this, Trump's team accused Harris of being a weak candidate and get this prone to uttering word salad, jumbles of exceptionally incoherent speech.

and that CBS manipulated the interview to make her appear more coherent and decisive.

And thus the product, her being more commercially appealing to people.

Whoa.

Are you kidding me?

Talking about word salad.

What a riot.

Todd Allbaugh

This is hysterical.

Absolutely hysterical.

Not to get you off, Joe, but I mean to your point, once CBS did finally, you know, release the entire thing, it's completely false.

I mean, you know, the charge is completely false.

Yeah, I mean and just pretty pretty funny that this guy's talking about incoherent word shallots.

I mean I just I mean let's just make that the next item that we have at our diner the incoherent word shallot You know can also call it the Trump special.

So anyway, I shouldn't be laughing about this It's incredibly serious because if the press goes down we're going down people and it's really really important But

Todd Allbaugh

my pleasure.

Thank you for listening to Joe.

It's a great listeners like Joe and Jean and everybody else I mean you guys are the ones that you know keep us going

both just kind of from an emotional standpoint, but also, you know, support the people that advertise on our stations, and that keeps us going as well.

Gonna come back with a what's worse in hour two, and some more news headlines as well.

Your phone calls is the all the show for Monday.

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