Always Root For The Underdog with Pete Schwaba (Hour 2)

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Always Root For The Underdog with Pete Schwaba (Hour 2)

The Todd Allbaugh Show · Thu Apr 24, 2025

Kathryn Lake

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On the board, it is six past the hour of three o'clock.

Welcome into hour number two of the big program on Thursday, April 24th, 2025.

It is a great day to be Wisconsinite.

Partly sunny skies, I would call it here in downtown Madison, the Civic Media World headquarters.

Zomers, great hour number one.

Many thanks to my Clemens for being here.

Kevill Connor, great first hour on this NFL Draft Thursday.

Big day for our listeners at WGBW, our great station up there.

in Green Bay, Wisconsin, WISS, and Oshkosh, the valley, as they say, because people from all over that part of the state, as Mike Clemens reported, hotels, Airbnb's, restaurants, Uber, Lyft people, I mean, all these places are gonna see an increase in income.

Yeah, definitely.

And also thank you to Joe and Madison for calling in the other day with

Todd Allbaugh

the story

about Vince Lombardi to remind us all about that important part of his legacy.

Todd Allbaugh

Yeah, absolutely, really, really appreciate that.

Coming up a little bit later this hour.

at the bottom of the hour, Pete Schwabba, host of Nightlight every evening from six until eight right here in the Civic Media Radio Network.

He's in town.

Apparently Conrad, his producer, is one of the big VIP hosts up there during the draft.

Yeah, actually, he's the majority owner of the Packers.

Todd Allbaugh

That is

not true.

Todd Allbaugh

No, but so Schwab is down here doing a show.

This is great.

He's gonna be here talk a little bit about his fine program every evening from six until eight and one of the hot new movies I know he's talked about this before But conclave this in this year's cinema was conclave all about picking a new Pope and that has become relevant again reality with the passing of Pope Francis

A lot of people, I, I, Schwabba could probably tell us, but I think it was like the number one or two stream movie this week.

Concrete.

It was already doing well.

Yeah.

So I've not seen any of you.

Not yet, but I plan to.

All right.

We'll ask Pete Schwabba a little bit about that and also play what's worse here in a minute, but wanted to bring you this, some good news here, good news, but important news from our very own Lisa Hale.

at the Civic Media News Department, avoiding scams during the NFL Draft in Green Bay.

The Wisconsin Department of Trade, Agriculture, Trade and Consumer Protection, better known as DATCAP, says any travel, but especially travel to popular locations and events, can increase the risks of identity theft.

Consumers should be aware of how identity theft occurs and how to reduce the risks.

The DAC cap says surveys, prize, giveaways, and online quizzes not affiliated with official NFL draft events can be tempting.

However, if they require participants to provide private data, even as simple as name, birthday, contact information that consumers should be aware and remember that they have no control over what happens to that data after it's submitted.

Many of these innocent, seeming collection methods are actually run by individuals and groups for the sole purpose of selling that personal information.

So just be aware of that when traveling to and from NFL Draft and Green Bay, Dak Cap recommends that consumers make purchases with credit cards because they offer built-in protections against fraud.

allow the user to dispute fraudulent charges and can be quickly canceled if lost or compromised.

So good news there or some good information there.

I think a lot of the places, by the way, as I read at the draft, not even accepting cash, it's cashless.

But as Lisa Hale at Civic Media reminds us, better to use a credit card if you have one than a debit card.

Yes, it is a lot easier to get your money back if there's fraud.

Todd Allbaugh

Yeah, absolutely.

So have fun up there.

Have a great time if you're going to the draft.

Allow extra time for parking.

Might need cash for parking.

I don't know.

Might need a lot

of cash

Todd Allbaugh

for parking.

Yeah.

I mean, Clem is just saying some of those places, some of those spots, you know, a hundred bucks a pop a day.

That sounds about right from what you were hearing too.

Todd Allbaugh

Yeah.

Because we kind of looked around and figure out logistically it just wasn't going to work.

But yeah, one of the places we were looking at was a bar.

Within like walking distance to the thing.

It was a hundred bucks a day So bring cash for that but use a credit card if you're going up to the draft 11 minutes now past the hour three o'clock time once again for what's worse.

Let's go

Time once again for what's worse, no prize, money involved, nothing to give away, just your chance to have your voice heard.

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All right, timely, timely indeed, as Mike Lucas is fond of saying, because a lot of people, I think, whether you're going to the draft, whether you're watching the draft tonight, probably, first of all, you'll be smarter than me because you'll have a way to grill your brats.

For those that were not with us in the first hour, I have brought in all of the accoutrements here to the studio behind.

If you're watching on the stream, YouTube, Facebook and Twitter.

You can see we got the clements, beef, Frank's not hot dogs, but beef Frank's dogs.

Oh, we got buns, ketchup, mustard, brought some spotted cow.

And you know, I thought this would be fun, fun and funny to grill, bring in a George Foreman grill and grill during the show because we got Schwabba here.

We make him a hot dog.

But no, I.

I looked for an hour in Madison and I could not find a George Foreman grill

Todd set up everything to tailgate in the studio except the grill

Todd Allbaugh

This way it goes But anyway, a lot of people are gonna be using onions onions on your said brought hot dog burger, whatever so today's category and what's worse onions or no onions simple onions or no

Onions 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 Again, I know I say this a lot during this segment It depends it really does it depends for me.

What's worse onions or no onions?

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A George Foreman grill.

That's exactly what I want, because apparently they're difficult to find these days.

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All right, what's worse, onions or no onions, 855-752-4842-855-752-4842.

Brian in Madison, listening on WMDX says onions, always.

I think that means that no

onions is worse.

He always wants onions.

Todd Allbaugh

He always wants onions.

All right.

I live listening in Sockville on WAUK says, no onions is definitely the worst.

I pile them on.

All right.

Very good.

Kurt in Madison listening on WMDX.

I live for when the dahlia onions come out.

How can anyone not like a Vidalia onion?

They are good.

Todd Allbaugh

Wasn't that a song at one time by Billy Ray Cyrus?

Vidalia.

Kathryn Lake

My

Todd Allbaugh

heart's on fire.

Maybe not exactly, but Vidalia wasn't something else.

Well, Kurt, obviously a big onion lover.

What's worse, onions or no onions?

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You can text us on the Civic Media app, Zombers.

Oh, here, one more.

Kurt says, you're not from, you're not a Wisconsinite if you don't like onions.

I mean, kind of

sort of fair.

Personally, I find them delicious.

But it is weird how common they are for being so polarizing.

And even then, people who like onions, do you want them grilled or raw, you know, or what kind of onion?

But for me, please don't crucify me.

I'm going to say onions are worse.

Onions are worse.

Not for any taste reasons.

I would love to have onions on everything.

My digestive system does not appreciate when I have onions on everything.

I have been

Todd Allbaugh

informed

by my doctor to cut back on them.

Todd Allbaugh

Really?

He is totally to cut back on onions.

All right.

Well, I did not bring onions for the hot dogs today.

Sorry.

Matt Middleton listening on WMDX says onions.

are worse or onions is worse as whatever I order stuff with them when they're overcooked and heaped on if they aren't because I could always use some hot sauce.

So he's kind of divided it sounds like.

And I'm a little bit with Kurt because.

Or but they're Matt in in Middleton on like like a salsa.

Well, of course, I like raw onions and my salsa things, especially a homemade sauce salsa like that.

But like, I'm not like a big raw onion guy on a hot dog or a raw onion guy on a brat.

I would like grilled onions for that.

Because you would still rather have onions than not.

Yeah, I'm kind of an I was a kid.

I didn't I didn't like onions at all.

I think I think just because of the strong taste, it is a strong taste when they're raw.

I'm not a big unless it's like an assault.

I'm not big on raw onions.

But like a grilled onion or a sauteed onion that complements whatever else it's worth or with.

Sure.

Yeah, absolutely.

Oh, when I was younger, my sisters and I would just like caramelize a bunch of onions and mushrooms to go along with whatever else we were eating.

But we'd always make extra.

Because it's like, this is this is what we're really here for.

Right.

Todd Allbaugh

Also, I learned that learned this years ago, like you take a clove of garlic and then slice it in half a whole like a whole head.

I'm sorry.

slice an apple, a little olive oil on the top of it, and slow cook it in the oven, like a roasted garlic like that.

And then it becomes so mild and creamy, you can almost eat it right out of the skin.

It's a much milder taste.

So I think, what are onions, legumes, is that it?

I don't

think so.

Todd Allbaugh

Look it up.

But but they're they're always more mild after you have to cook them.

What's worse, onions or no onions, eight by five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two, eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two.

Tyler in Wisconsin Rapids listening on WVHV cheese.

WFHR.

Thank you.

Too many colors in my head.

Thank you.

Great station.

FHR up there.

Wisconsin Rapids.

Tyler says, you got to have onions.

The trick to keep them under control is to hollow out the bun a bit.

Onions and nothing else now.

I've people like there are people out there that will eat an onion like an apple That's too much for me.

I've never done that and yeah, I'm okay with that.

That's that's that's too much for me

eight five five seven five two four eight four two onions or no onions give us a call we'll put you on the line that's our what's worse for today eight five five seven five two four eight four two eight five five seven five two four eight four two come back take a look at

The drive-time traffic around the state of Wisconsin.

And get ready for our friend Pete Schwabba, host of Night Light here at the bottom of the hour.

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Working his draft day NFL draft at the Green Bay Packers home at Lambeau Field gets underway later on tonight.

I think the first pick just after seven o'clock.

Looking forward to nervous anticipation to that.

Our very own sports reporter Mike Clemens there at Lambeau Field will bring you the Packers pick a little bit later tonight.

Pick 23rd in the first round.

So it will take a while.

But Clemens will have all the updates for you from Goodicunes from

Whoever whomever the Packers pick tonight.

Looking forward to that.

We thank Mike Clemens for all of his work up there at Green Bay over this draft.

Twenty three now past the hour.

Take a quick check of roads across the state of Wisconsin.

According to five one one W I dot G O V five.

Take a peek in according to the state website D O T.

No major delays right now around Green Bay, so things are going smoothly.

I mean, maybe some normal traffic, a Lombardi or whatever, but in terms of major roadways around the Green Bay area, nothing major to report right now.

Move down to southeast Wisconsin, closer to RWA UK, Worcestership in the Waukesha, Milwaukee area.

On the western side, I-41, just south of Menominee Falls, down through Butler, southbound, expect delays there.

Also northbound from I-41 up to I-90.

175 or 195 rather expect northbound traffic on 41 a little backed up there a couple of shoulder inner roads Try that again time cars off of the shoulder of the road and also a closer to Milwaukee proper from the intersection or from that Exchange way there of I 41 up to

190 on 43 North so I 43 North slow going there the normal daytime commute there as always so pack your patients as they say and allow a lot of extra time otherwise no major road incidents around the state of Wisconsin at this hour we're in the middle what's worse right now the category for today what's worse onions or no onions

eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two, eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two.

Tyler in Wisconsin Rapids saying, you got to have the onions.

The trick to keep them under control.

I guess we read that one as to how well about in the bun a bit.

I've never done that.

Never done that.

I've done that

not for onions, unlike a burger, but I've definitely done it on subs and some restaurants will do that.

Sub places, sub shops, they'll, you know.

They'll scrape out a little bit.

They call it the guts of the of the fun Although sloppy Joe's I always do that because if you don't they just go everywhere.

They really are sloppy But I like push in the top of the hamburger bun before putting the meat in there so that I can

Todd Allbaugh

actually get

a reasonable amount in it and

Todd Allbaugh

not have

it explode as soon as I pick it up

Todd Allbaugh

Food tips from Aaron Zombers.

I love it.

Uh, I guess I don't know this is hard for me because

too like too many like on a pizza, for instance, there's a there's a balance there, a real balance.

So Paison's pizza and Madison for years and years, they had exactly the right balance of of onions versus no onions.

And so it had just enough flavor, but not like we're just gross.

And again, I'm not a big raw onion guy.

I like him cooked.

So I guess if I had to choose, I would say too many onions are worse.

Versus not at all fair enough.

I mean me too.

Yeah I Will we'll play to the round tomorrow back more into a little bit more of the normal talk as far as Peter Rapider old friend Peter Rapides gonna be here with a week in review

the wacky and wild human behavior tomorrow at 3.30 in our new time slot.

So Peter's kind enough to adjust with this into the new time, time slot.

So 3.30.

I'm very glad about that.

Yeah, me too.

And also we'll get back more, a little bit more into the political side of things tomorrow, but I thought it was appropriate.

We take a day here and talk more about the draft going on in Green Bay, again, a big economic boom for the Fox Valley, the Green Bay area.

And kind of cool, I think, to have Wisconsin, all these national news, talk, sports programs, radio, television, streaming.

It does nothing but up the ante in terms of our earned media for the state of Wisconsin.

So I hope the Packers do well tonight.

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If you want to call in and talk a little bit draft.

Or what's worse, I guess we didn't really Kevin and I got talking about about draft picks of the past and Only give slight mention to the cheese league and this was really cool if you grew up in the late 80s and 90s and Something that quite frankly was really pushed for by former governor Tommy Thompson was called the cheese league and at its at its peak in 1995 had six NFL teams

And they were drawn by the milder summers, escaped from distractions at home, great facilities, and they came to college towns in Wisconsin to prepare for the NFL season.

The league had its strongest participation throughout the 1990s with five teams peaking in 1995 with six, thanks to the participation of the Jacksonville Jaguars for a single year.

The proximity allowed teams to practice with and scrimmage against one another, allowing for a nice change of pace and more realistic preparation for the regular season, which that was really the from an NFL organization standpoint.

Cause you hear about this all the time, right?

Mike Clemens will tell us about, you know, so and so the Packers got injured during the scrimmage in, in training.

Well, here you got to actually beat up on another team.

So.

You know, you might have the Packers at St.

Norbert and Depeere, and they would go down to Plattville and play the Chicago Bears.

The Jaguars for a season were at UW-Stevens Point, and they might go across the state and play the Kansas City Chiefs at River Falls.

I imagine that also gets you a little bit more information going into the season.

Todd Allbaugh

A little bit.

I think it was just a better way to assess the people that you had on your team.

That's fair against true competition.

And again, they weren't necessarily always going full strength, but it's kind of like, hey, how does this guy size up?

How quick is this guy against real competition on the other side?

And then the Vikings for Mankato and the New Orleans Saints were at UW La Crosse, the old cheese league of the 90s.

Until they said, yeah, we should probably go back to our home state.

We'll come back and talk with one of our hometown guys, Pete Schlabaugh on the other side.

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a civic video ready to work 35 minutes now past the hour of three o'clock.

going to talk movies here in a minute with our colleague and friend, Pete Schwab.

First of all, a quick traffic update for you, particularly for our listeners on WMDX in Madison.

If you're headed down towards the Beloit area, be aware that Wisconsin 213 that road is now closed in both directions from Townline Avenue to Richard Street due to a crash.

You need to use alternate route there.

So particularly, let's say, might be coming up from Illinois, your drive.

home might be listening to us on the Civic Media app and get to Deloitte if you intend to take Highway Wisconsin Highway 213.

That road is now closed in both directions, otherwise around the Milwaukee area.

The normal drive time delays right now.

No other major roadways have complete closures at this time.

And interesting, Pete Schwabba, where you are from, the host of Nightlight.

What app from there?

That's where you do your show at WGVW, the great station there so far.

They say no major traffic delays Pete.

Welcome to the show.

Hey, thanks.

Thanks for having me.

It's my oh, yeah We've got we've got weird controls here story.

Oh, there we go up up down.

I feel like I was that too high.

Pete Schwaba

No, that's perfect

Todd Allbaugh

for 20 is pass

Pete Schwaba

Not by long Yeah, there's a lot going on up in Green Bay I think that's why they brought me down here because there's so much craziness and You know Conrad took a vacation.

That's your producer to go to the draft.

Yeah

Right, I just hate Conrad, because everybody in the state should know who Conrad is.

But Conrad, the producer of Nightlight, took some time off to go to the draft, so I'm down here chilling away from the crowds.

Right.

Love it.

Todd Allbaugh

We toyed around going up there, but after looking at...

all the security and all that kind of stuff.

We're just like, ah, maybe, maybe, maybe plan better next time, Todd.

I can't even imagine

Pete Schwaba

how they're fitting all those people.

You know, I remember last year in Detroit, they had 250,000 people.

They couldn't even fit them all in Ford Field.

They had to do it like staggered.

So it'll be interesting to see how it goes in Green Bay, but I know they're loving it They're very excited

Todd Allbaugh

and the weather looks like it's gonna be okay at least that's good 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 we're talking about the cheese leave remember the cheese league Pete we around then Back in back in 1995.

It wasn't I was at go to school to Plattville

I have not accomplished much of my life, Pete.

But as far as I know, I still hold the record for number of programs sold at the Bears training camp at UW platform.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, no way.

Todd Allbaugh

In one day.

Pete Schwaba

First of all, I want to say, if you haven't done much with your life.

And you're the host, and I'm a guest on your show.

What does that say about me?

No,

not at

Pete Schwaba

all.

Yeah, I remember when the Bears used to go up there.

Chicago is my hometown, and I'm a Bears fan, a long-suffering Bears fan.

So I remember when they were in Platteville, and that must have been kind of fun.

Todd Allbaugh

It was fantastic, because it was the last couple of years of Dicca and the first year of Juanstead.

And, you know, you would be six feet away from Dicca.

You'd be at a golf cart going around.

And Jim McMahon used to just wreak havoc down downtown at night.

Pete Schwaba

Isn't it funny, like, when you get older, like, I used to like all of those guys.

But now that I'm older, I have such low tolerance.

If someone's an idiot, I don't care if they were on my team.

I cannot like them now.

But back then, it's like, oh, Jim McMahon, you know, but like, now he'd probably, I'd probably

Todd Allbaugh

go.

He was a legend in Platteville.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, I bet he was.

Todd Allbaugh

He really

Pete Schwaba

was.

He went to Brigham Young.

I think he set some records up there, too, that have nothing to do with.

Football.

Todd Allbaugh

I bet he did.

Let's go to the full lines quickly.

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Got to Los Angeles.

We go.

L.A.

Tum.

L.A., you had a couple of thoughts on the cheese league.

Yeah, Todd.

I think part of the reason why they picked all those areas in Wisconsin, the campuses that they did, was because these were small towns.

Right.

The falls, Platteville, the pier.

They're all small towns, so really truly, players could not get as distracted during the two days or three days.

And they have to focus on football.

Whereas if it would have been a bigger city, then they may have gone out more.

If they'd gone out more, they would have gotten in trouble.

So I think part of the reason of doing the Cheese League was really to make sure everyone stayed more focused on football.

and not the other extra curricula.

Todd Allbaugh

I think that was your, I definitely think that was the intent.

And I think to some degree, yeah, how much trouble can you get in Platteville versus, you know, I don't know, Kansas City, but again, having.

been going to college there at the time.

There were quite a few stories of some of these guys because I mean, they were they were well known.

They're NFL, you know, legends.

And they would they would they would pay for a drink or a meal and and they'd have people just, you know, worship it.

Pete Schwaba

They just have to stay in the dorms and play and do beer bongs or

Todd Allbaugh

something.

It's

Pete Schwaba

like that's pretty harmless.

Todd Allbaugh

Right.

Let's go quickly to McFarland on WMDX.

Tom, back to back, Tom's.

This is Tom and McFarland.

Tom, thanks for calling.

What do you got?

Thanks for taking my call and you know, I got a fun story in regards to the cheese league Yeah, I was up in Steven's point back when they first started doing their expansion in order to attract an NFL team for the cheese league and Some friends and I we were playing you know some cloth football and we noticed a group of Business guys definitely not pointers that were kind of walking around spoping out the fields and one of them came up to us now I'm originally from Chicago

So I immediately knew who this guy was, and I was starting to get my little girl on.

And he just started throwing the football around with us, talking to us about how we like point, what we like things about the fields, et cetera, et cetera.

That was Walter Payton.

Oh, wow.

He

was back when he was looking at exactly,

you

know, I can actually say I played football with Walter Payton.

Incredible.

But

that's part of the St.

Louis outfit.

Pete Schwaba

That's amazing.

That's my

backstory as far as the teeth look.

Yeah,

Pete Schwaba

I had a great time.

John Madden still says Walter Payton is the greatest football player ever because he could throw, kick, run, block, catch.

best all around anyway, that was my boyhood idol growing

Todd Allbaugh

up.

Oh, absolutely.

Tom McFarland, thanks for calling in there.

Great story.

And Pete Schwabba, I think when we start talking about, and again, I know that sports isn't everybody's cup of tea, let alone football, but when we talked a little bit earlier, one of our callers to a lot of our shows, Joe and Madison pointed this out a couple of days ago, when Matt Rostrow was filling in in the four to six time slot, that

You know, there was only one black player for the Green Bay Packers when Vince Lombardi became coach.

Right.

And he did so much to insist not just in the Packers organization, but in Green Bay in general.

You're letting all my players in here.

You're treating all my players with respect or none of us are going to be here.

And I think that, again, as if though we needed one, yet another reason that we can be proud to be Green Bay Packers fans.

Pete Schwaba

Absolutely.

You can't.

I mean, I appreciate the rivalry so much.

I mean, I look forward to those two Sundays every year when they square off and even when the Bears aren't good.

I'm like, maybe they can steal one.

And they have stolen

a couple.

And they did last year.

Pete Schwaba

They did in January, and before that, it's been about six years.

But it's such a great rivalry.

But it is better.

when both teams are good.

Yes,

Pete Schwaba

100%.

Kathryn Lake

You know what I

Pete Schwaba

mean?

Kathryn Lake

I

Pete Schwaba

agree.

But they're both great organizations.

I mean, the Hallis family, Curly Lambeau, Vince Lombardi, and I just interviewed someone on Nightlight, Sam Venese, whose brother hired Vince Lombardi.

Really?

And they're trying to get his brother into the Hall of Fame.

You should talk to him, Todd.

Todd Allbaugh

That's fantastic.

I think his name

Pete Schwaba

is Jack.

Jerry Venese was a rock star executive for the Bears and helped build the 85 Bears.

His brother

with help build the Packers back in the day.

He was

Kathryn Lake

like 10 years older

Pete Schwaba

than him.

Yeah, and Sam, who was on the show, is a veterinarian, so he skirted, he stayed away from the front offices of NFL teams, but he was a great interview, and they're trying to get his brother into the Hall of Fame just because of some of the moves he made as an administrator.

Todd Allbaugh

Football and sports has always been a great subject for movies, speaking there of, and your show, I mean, I'm sorry, I know it's triton cliche, but Rudy still is one of my favorite.

All-time sports films of all time.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, it's hard to go.

I mean underdog stories are just right.

They're just the best stories I mean because I think part of it is because of the little victories they get in the movies when they're not unrealistic like Rudy wasn't all-American, you know Rocky didn't knock out Apollo the first time

Todd Allbaugh

he

Pete Schwaba

just wanted to go the distance and that makes it plausible and that makes us root for these guys in the movies, you know I

Todd Allbaugh

couldn't agree more and you leave

just feeling better.

I don't know about yourself in some way.

That to me is still the magic of cinema and movies when you could go in feeling one way and come out feeling another because you've experienced something.

Pete Schwaba

Absolutely.

And I'll tell you another underdog story.

You know the movie Hoosiers, of course.

So in college, I think I told this story recently on Nightlight, but a bunch of friends that we had a

a six foot and under league in our mural basketball team.

And we were in the championship game and we didn't deserve to be there.

I think the other team, you know, I don't know what happened, but we got to the championship game.

We're out the night before doing shots and drinking at our favorite college bar.

And we're like, we're going to go home and we're going to watch Hoosiers.

And then we're going to get some sleep and go beat these guys.

You know, we get home at two in the morning and put Hoosiers on.

There's like five guys in my room.

We all fall asleep sometime during Hoosiers and miss the game completely.

That's the danger with those movies is you feel so great when you're watching them.

Like you watch Rocky and then you go do push-ups for two days and you overdo it and you can't move for a month.

And then it's the end of your, you know, underdog story, but they're great movies for sure.

Todd Allbaugh

Oh,

Pete Schwaba

it

Todd Allbaugh

really

Pete Schwaba

is.

Todd Allbaugh

Another great movie that I have not seen yet, and we'll be careful because I heard there's a twist in it, Conclave, the big show, the big movie about selecting a pope did well, was up for an Academy Award or two, and now making a big comeback.

after the passing of Pope Francis?

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, they're streaming the heck out of that and two popes, which I still have never seen.

But Conclave was really good.

Yeah, it was, I mean, there is a twist in it.

And some people say, well, I didn't like the twist.

I don't think they needed a twist.

The twist made it interesting for me.

I mean, it's interesting how they choose the pope and their phenomenal actors in the movie, John Lithgow, Stanley Tucci, Ray Fiennes, Isabella Rossellini.

But to me, the...

That made it an Oscar-worthy movie, like with a little something that catches you off guard.

But it's a really good movie, yeah.

Todd Allbaugh

Isn't John Lithgow just, I mean, to me at least, one of the great actors of our time.

This guy could play anything and plays it fantastically.

Pete Schwaba

He's a great actor.

I mean, I like all three of them.

I love Stanley Tucci.

But yeah, Lithgow was great.

I will say the only role I didn't love him in was when he was on Third Rock from the Sun.

Really?

Well, I thought he was so, he's such a good actor when he's just acting and doing drama and he plays it small.

But I mean, I don't know if you know the comedian Andy Kindler, but he had

Todd Allbaugh

a joke

Pete Schwaba

at the Montreal Comedy Festival in like 1997.

He had a joke that says John Lithgow overacts so much he ends up in another room.

But that was just him doing that character.

I'm sure he was great at it, but he's a phenomenal actor.

Yeah.

He really is.

I

Todd Allbaugh

actually really liked him in Third Rock.

I think most people do.

I mean,

Pete Schwaba

he's

Todd Allbaugh

great.

I don't know.

I just thought it was just because it was so out of character for him as an actor to be in that role, to your point, because he's played so many great dramatic roles.

And to see him do comedy, I thought it made it funnier to me.

You know

Pete Schwaba

what he's great in, Todd?

If you haven't seen the, I don't know if it's a remake, but of...

What's the show?

Not Ironside.

It's a reboot on Max, starring the guy from the Americans.

I'm totally blank.

Kathryn Lake

He has slept about two hours.

Pete Schwaba

But John Lithgow plays his mentor.

I'll find out.

All right.

Because it's a great...

Really great show.

It's

Pete Schwaba

a reboot.

It's a period piece in the 30s in LA.

It's just great.

Todd Allbaugh

Fantastic.

So you can get all kinds of hot tips on entertainment, whether you're watching one streaming or on movies every evening from six until eight right here on the Civic Media and Media Network on Night Light.

It is, we are here with our friend Pete Schwabba.

And if you want to call and ask a question about a movie, give us a call at 855-752-4842.

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One minute left.

Let's give a tease.

We'll come back and talk more about it.

Who do you have on tonight?

Pete Schwaba

Tonight, I have the comedian and author Rich Scheidner.

And Rich is going to do the popcorn pick of the week that you did so brilliantly a few weeks

ago.

Pete Schwaba

You've set the bar high, pal.

I'll just say that.

But Rich is going to come on, then he's going to tell some stories.

He has all these great stories about comedians, going back to Henny Youngman, even the first Civil War comic.

A

Civil War

Pete Schwaba

comic?

Yeah.

Rich is a legend.

He's been

in the business

Pete Schwaba

forever, Tonight Show, Letterman.

And now he's written books, and he's going to share some fun stories with us tonight.

And then W.R.

Jan's down.

Don Rosen joins me after that.

Todd Allbaugh

Don Rosen.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah.

The legend.

The legend.

Who

Todd Allbaugh

looks much younger than his age and acts like it too.

He's 31.

But somehow he pulls it off.

All right.

Come on back.

Warren Pete Schwabba is the all ball show right here for a draft Thursday NFL Not Fear on the Civic Media Ready Network.

Kathryn Lake

You're listening to Civic Media.

Find the latest news, information, and archives of all your favorite shows on the Civic Media website,

Todd Allbaugh

civicmedia.us.

before the hour of four o'clock at the top of the hour.

CBS or ABC News, depending upon which of the great stations across Wisconsin, you're listening to a little weather update for you.

Our great sports reporter is at the draft at Lambeau Field in Green Bay.

He's going to be reporting there all day and night.

Packers have the 23rd pick in the first round.

Mike will have an interview with that individual and also good at Kunst as well.

All your packer information for our great sports reporter, Mike Clemens, all draft.

long and then another dish on the Maggie Dawn show every afternoon now from four until six followed by our guest right now the host of the great evening program at nightlight every night six until eight our very own Pete Schwabba.

Great to be here.

People cheering.

A

Pete Schwaba

bunch of kids hanging around outside the kindergarten.

I

don't know what you're trying to say there.

We're a family-friendly radio

Pete Schwaba

network.

My

Pete Schwaba

wife's

Todd Allbaugh

a

Pete Schwaba

kindergarten teacher,

Todd Allbaugh

so I

Pete Schwaba

immediately recognize

Todd Allbaugh

little

Pete Schwaba

boys

and

Pete Schwaba

yelling.

It's great to be here.

Thanks

Todd Allbaugh

for having me.

Great to be here.

Quick weather, pardon me, sports.

It's time for time to go.

It's time for me to crack a beer behind me.

I'm not used to being in drive time yet, Pete.

A couple of traffic updates for you.

A Wisconsin 231 or 213, pardon me, just outside of Beloit.

So if you're listening on WMDX in Madison, heading down there, be aware that Wisconsin Highway 213 completely closed in both directions due to an accident there.

No major delays right now around the greater Green Bay area.

around a little shoot right now.

I 41 south, about a six tenths of a mile beyond the ramp from Richmond Street.

Expect a laying closure there due to a disabled vehicle, but otherwise all other traffic in the Fox Valley on time.

And then around the greater Milwaukee area, the normal drive time traffic, 94, and in particular, Highway 41 north and south, just north of 94.

Expect delays in both directions right now.

Pete, let's go to the full lines quickly.

We're talking earlier about the cheese league of the 1990s when other NFL teams besides the Packers used to have their summer training in Wisconsin.

Dick, you wanted to talk about the cheese league.

What do you got?

Oh, yeah, I did.

But also, Pete, I just love your show.

I listened to the second generation in the morning two days a week because I got to be up early.

But

Pete Schwaba

oh, thanks, Dick.

Appreciate

it.

We used to do a.

family camp outing.

It was usually late summer when NFL started.

And it was always down in Cobb, Wisconsin, that little Black Hawk Lake.

So a bunch of the brother-in-laws we hopped in the car to go to watch a bear's practice.

And I swear to God, guys, it was what a great afternoon.

Yeah, Matt Sui looked like I said, that's not Matt Sui.

That is Fred Flintstone come to life.

He has no neck.

Yeah.

And then

And then you had the fridge and later in the day we saw him in downtown Platteville.

We were walking around and here they go buying a car and it was fridge and everybody starts yelling at him and he turns his head and his head, he's looking out the window of the car like a television.

His head covered the whole window.

We're looking at this guy and going, what?

You know, every character on that team, you had to love it.

I mean, buddy, Ryan is a defensive coordinator.

Pete Schwaba

They were fun.

Yeah.

It was fun.

It

was great for a Packer fan.

Right.

No.

Yeah,

quick.

There was a worse draft pick than Tony Mandry.

It wasn't ours.

How about Brian Bosworth?

Todd Allbaugh

All right, that's a bad one.

Bad

pick.

Todd Allbaugh

That's

a bust.

That's a bust.

He got run over by Bo Jackson in a Monday night game.

It's just way late.

I

Pete Schwaba

remember that.

Appreciate the call, Dick.

Thank you so much.

It's so funny.

Remember the fridge?

Like, oh, he's 310 pounds like that.

He was a monster then.

He'd be undersized now.

Oh, absolutely.

Kathryn Lake

You know what I mean?

It

Pete Schwaba

was a monster back then, like his size.

And he could slam dunk a basketball at 6'1 and 300.

The guy was a freak athlete, but he would be undersized now.

Todd Allbaugh

We played a little bit earlier because of my old broadcast partner, Kevin O'Connor, also from Chicagoland originally.

And we played a little Super Bowl shuffle.

Some of the great music of the 90s.

Pete Schwaba

You talked about Mike Clemens.

And one of the reasons I'm the only thing I missed this week is that Mike says he's working out of WGBW.

And the one thing I've decided in my life, I need to be around Mike Clemens more.

Kathryn Lake

I just enjoy

Pete Schwaba

him.

He's great on the air.

He's a good guy off the air.

But he wrote the pack arena.

Remember that?

In

the

Pete Schwaba

90s, he wrote that and he told the story

on

nightlight.

We should share that.

Pete Schwaba

We're gonna have to share that.

That's something we

probably should have.

He wrote the Pack

Pete Schwaba

Arena.

His boss at a radio station in Milwaukee said, this has to be done.

We want a parody before, and then we're gonna go golfing.

Something like that.

I shouldn't have Mike tell it, but he said, this has to be done before you go golfing.

So he and Jane McNair put this together and it was like this big phenomenon.

All the proceeds went to charity.

It was great.

Stop the show.

Stop the show.

We'll find it.

I've been working here two and a half years.

I have never heard this story.

Pete Schwaba

And this is my bad because I feel like I'm always the last to know everything.

I live on the state line and I drive down into Green Bay to do my show.

So I figure everybody knows this stuff.

Todd Allbaugh

But

Pete Schwaba

yeah, we'll share that because it's great.

It's like it was to the Macarena, but they called it the Pacarena.

Todd Allbaugh

And Clemens wrote

Pete Schwaba

it.

And Matt Nair sings it.

Jane Matt

Nair sings it.

Pete Schwaba

I swear to God.

Don Rosen tap dances?

No, I'm kidding.

But Mike, Mike wrote it and Jane, uh, yeah.

And Jane

Todd Allbaugh

sings it.

It's great.

There's probably no times on Mars, but we could find that.

That would be magical to go out with.

And I hate

Pete Schwaba

to admit it, but it's a better, the Super Bowl shuffle was cute.

It was fun, but I've heard it.

I know 50,000 times in my life.

The packer in is a really

Todd Allbaugh

all right So what are you told what's coming up tonight?

What do you got tomorrow?

Pete Schwaba

We got Terry bar for bar ban Friday night, and we're gonna we're out of the Studio tomorrow night, so we're putting a show together, but it'll be all new material It'll be fun and Terry is bringing a 12 year old singer songwriter to the show to perform in the studio her name is Paige Cleaver Wow, she's phenomenal,

Todd Allbaugh

so

Pete Schwaba

Terry'll be there Paige will be there.

It's gonna be a lot of fun

Todd Allbaugh

And one more plug for tonight.

What do you got?

You got

Pete Schwaba

Rich Scheidner, the legendary Rich Scheidner.

He's a comedian from Letterman, Carson, all those great shows.

And now he's an author.

And then Don Rosen.

Todd Allbaugh

And the great Don Nerozins.

Don Nerozins everywhere.

He is.

He's only 31.

He's

Pete Schwaba

everywhere.

Todd Allbaugh

He looks

Pete Schwaba

23.

Todd Allbaugh

I mean, you thought of the guy who was in the movie

Pete Schwaba

earlier.

Todd Allbaugh

Yeah.

Oh, it's Perry Mason.

Pete Schwaba

Perry

Todd Allbaugh

Mason.

It's the

Pete Schwaba

remake on HBO with Matthew Rees and Lith goes in and he plays his mentor.

It's

Todd Allbaugh

really good.

So it's a remake of Perry Mason.

And it streams

Pete Schwaba

where?

On Max.

Todd Allbaugh

And it

Pete Schwaba

deals with when Perry Mason was still a PI.

He wasn't a lawyer yet.

Really great period piece, like set in 1930s L.A.

Awesome.

Yes, yes!

Written by Mike Clemens, sung by Jane McNair, the packerina.

Pete Schwabba, thanks for joining

Kathryn Lake

us

tonight.

Thank you, Todd.

Whatever you're fighting for, whatever you believe in, do not give up.

Keep banging your drum.

Kathryn Lake

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