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Pat Kreitlow Introduces Mornings With Pat Kreitlow (Hour 1)
The Todd Allbaugh Show · Tue Apr 15, 2025
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Good afternoon, everybody.
I'm Todd Albaugh with our outstanding producer and engineer, Mr. Aaron Zommers on the board.
It is six past the hour of 12 noon on this Tuesday, April 15th, 2025.
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to be Wisconsinite, the world headquarters of Civic Media, downtown Madison.
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Not too bad of a day, a little chill in the air, Mr. Zombers, but glad to be back on the air with you.
You were down at that brewer blowout last night, but not in a good way.
But you had great seats.
I didn't have great seats.
It was a good time, but it also
There was one point and I believe the sevens inning I might be remembering incorrectly towards the end of the game where the bases were loaded.
We could have gotten a Grand Slam, you know or something, but no, it just petered out the Brewers never caught their footing
tough game for the Brewers last night against the Tigers.
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The tiger is against the brewers tonight at 605 and it's tax day.
One of my least favorite holidays or days in America is tax day.
But one of my favorite people in all of America joins us now on Tuesday.
He is the host of Up North News radio every morning from six until eight.
And I think now I can can I can I announce the new part now as well.
Yes, okay And it's starting next Wednesday the host of mornings with Pat quite low here on the civic media radio network.
Mr. Pat quite low.
How are you Patrick?
I'm great because it is tax day one of my favorite days of the good Lord.
Why
and I'll tell you why please
Uh, in the many people that I met while, uh, serving in the legislature and running for Congress, I will never forget one particular farmer who had done very well for himself and he was, he was quite old by this point.
And he said, there used to be more people like me, uh, who said this, but I
love paying my taxes because it reminds me how far I have come in life that there were days when I'm the one who needed help.
I needed handouts or a hand up and now
My taxes go toward educating our kids, having good roads, all the things that make Wisconsin better than almost anyplace else in the world to live.
And that is something we should be proud of, not cynical about.
You know, he described himself as an FDR New Deal Democrat because he was old enough to remember, you know, what times were like when times were a lot, lot tougher.
And it's so easy for us to be cynical.
selfish and believe that all of the bad things in the past are staying in the past but if we've learned nothing over the past oh I don't know a couple of months it's that some of the worst features of that era the pre-new deal era can very much happen again so we'd best be thankful for what we've got and we'd best not
Take it for granted.
I think that's a
lovely, lovely sentiment.
And I agree.
We're fortunate to live in a country where there are services.
And to get those services, I get it.
Of course, if you want good roads, look, we all got to pay taxes.
We got to have good roads, things like that.
It doesn't take the burn off my wallet anymore.
Because I'd save up.
I knew I was going to have to pay this year.
And I knew I had to say, and now I have this nice little savings.
And now it's all
gone.
But it's like saying, oh, Christmas really snuck up on me.
No, it didn't.
No, it didn't.
It's December 25th every year.
And if.
Look.
If you're either expecting a really big refund or you've really got to pay in a lot well again That's not the fault of you know the government you you got to plan these things out because you you roughly know your income barring any unforeseen circumstances So you're either withholding too much or too little and by the way don't take all of this all this pleasant rhetoric about it as any kind of you know endorsement of the current tax system It's a joke.
It was made more of a joke by Donald Trump
Ron Johnson and others in 2017.
And I cannot believe we are at this point again, where the disaster they created then is about to be recreated here.
There's all the politicians that are like, oh, we should have a flat tax and something so simple you can put it on a postcard.
Well, first off, no, we need the exact opposite of a flat tax.
And second, yes, we could make the system a lot easier.
the IRS pretty much knows what your income is.
They could tell you, in many other countries, they send you a letter saying, here was your income, here was your situation, if it hasn't changed at all, here's what your tax or your refund would be.
And we could simplify it that way, but there are too many people, places, companies that make money off of the tax industry to allow Congress to ever make taxes easier on us, and that's a damn shame.
Yeah, I pretty much go
along with that.
I just come.
I have an absolute bias.
So I come with to it with a personal bias because my years being a small business owner in Wisconsin and employing whatever around a dozen people part time, well, one guy full time.
And I just, in my experience and talking to other people the same way that more to your point, Pat, that the way even in the state of Wisconsin.
You're working 90 hours a week when you're running your own business.
And then you got Yahoo's that are like, oh, you didn't file a piece of paper that said you're going to be paying us taxes.
Did I pay all my taxes?
Yes.
But you never filed a piece of paper.
So that's a $1,500 fund.
I could not
agree with you more because when I first knew I might be running for elected office and we had kids here and we were both working crazy.
and so we hired a cleaning lady.
And remember the old days, when a cleaning lady, that was enough that you couldn't get a cabinet appointment for a newly elected president because you didn't pay taxes on the cleaning lady's income.
So I wanted to make sure to follow those rules.
And so let me say for the record here, because I still have an LLC, I do nothing with it, but I just wanted it to be there just in case.
the system in Wisconsin is an absolute joke.
It is.
It is everything that you just said and more.
And if I could have tackled anything else as a legislator, it would have been to tear into that and say, why does this have to be so complex?
So again, don't take my comments on the concept of taxation going to good things versus an endorsement of the tax system.
It's awful and needs to be fixed.
One quick thing,
if you, because I've been there and so confused, I seize up because partly my dyslexia is more numbers than letters, but
But I can look at a state budget, multi-million dollar, billion dollar state budget, I can explain it to people fine.
But to sit and do things on my taxes, it just freaks me out.
And so I was in the place in years past where like, I didn't want to do something wrong and file something incorrectly.
So I just didn't file.
And I thought it was better not to do something incorrectly.
That's, by the way, that's the wrong answer.
If you need, if you're out there and you're like me, at least file an extension, you could go online, do it fairly easily.
They ask you to pay what you think you might owe if you owe anything.
If you don't think you're going to owe anything, just file that extension.
It's a one-page formula.
It'll save you a lot of headaches moving forward because, folks, I've been there.
Absolutely.
And yes, I've said multiple times, if you can't make it today, don't skip it.
The only people who can skip on taxes today are millionaires and billionaires because Donald Trump gutted the IRS.
Not the one that goes after regular folks, the one that goes after multi-millionaires skipping out on their taxes.
Joe Schmo not going to get away with it.
So file the extension if you can't get it done today.
This is your tax service from Pat and Todd today.
No, no.
We are the H and R blockheads.
I did I do my taxes now the great folks HR block in Monroe, Wisconsin and my tax preparer her name is faith block I'm not making that up no relation But yeah, and I just you know so I can report to you that my taxes have been filed in my my Destin Society had been paid
I noticed my bank account shortly after midnight had the right amount plucked out of it and like well you guys didn't waste any time
Not at all.
All right.
Yeah, and all seriousness Patrick of a quick
Apology on the air.
I did this last week off the air because last week I had been told and Zomers is my witness.
Oh Zomers again.
Stop it.
But quickly I just wanted to do this.
The lineup
is out there.
It's okay.
I know but but I did this I really feel terribly because as Zomers is my witness I was told I was free to talk about the lineup and then I blew it because you had not announced on your show that you're on the new lineup and I really really felt badly so I apologized to you and your listeners for getting ahead of the game on that.
That's on me.
But talking about the new lineup and the new show, it's very exciting.
I, I, I filled in for somebody on this network yesterday and my first question to the producer was, have they mentioned the change yet on this show?
Nope.
Oh, it's going to be awkward talking about my change, but okay, here we go.
Uh, but you know, people have sick days and things like that.
Anyway, uh, up North news radio is getting a name change.
It's getting a new time slot and expanded time slot instead of six to eight on weekday mornings.
It'll be six to nine.
So
there's
more me to go around apparently.
Fantastic.
Yeah, followed by Matt Nair on air from 9 to 11 will be their new time.
And then of course, your new time is two to four.
Wait,
it is?
No, no, it is.
Don't do this again.
No,
no.
So I'm very flattered to be asked to do an extra hour of programming.
I hope it's a nice endorsement of what we're doing.
in terms of, you know, will we be doing much of anything different?
Two things.
One is that I am, and I haven't even announced this on my show yet.
Something else we're breaking on your show first is I'm tired of fighting with Facebook and YouTube.
and other social media companies when we play music, you know, pop music,
you
know, we're still going to do the this day in music history thing.
And we're going to find a way to keep that section off of social media or something.
But in terms of all of our other bumper music and everything, it's just too much of a hassle.
And there's a lot of great, you know, independent music out there that's not restricted by license.
So it'll sound a little different.
It'll have a different name mornings.
with Pat
Critelaw.?
With a conveniently named Pat Critelaw.
With a conveniently named Pat Critelaw.
It'll have that.
And then the one other thing is that obviously with an extra hour, I tend to do some kind of a, we have a regular stable of guests at 6.30.
We try to bring in newsmakers and political folks at 7.30.
Well, now at 8.30, I'm hoping to do the other thing that we do at Up North News, which is much more Wisconsin features.
We don't do enough features on our radio show.
So if we can talk about people, places, food, drink, you know, all things that
as as one man likes to say, make Wisconsin great.
I think that that's a very noteworthy thing.
And I hope people will give us ideas for guests and topics.
Yeah, I totally
agree.
It's, you know, I have all people.
Change is never easy.
But I think there are some good things happening.
And certainly part of it is increasing your show to three hours.
Ellie Tom on YouTube said asking about Earl Ingram show and just make sure that folks know.
I know Jane talked about this this morning on her show.
Earl is not going anywhere, by the way.
Earl and Civic and Earl have agreed to this.
And I'm totally excited about it, that he is, instead of doing his morning show, he is going to be an ongoing special correspondent to Civic.
He is going to do kind of a podcast type of thing and be on different shows, talking about different things.
We'll be on our
show.
We'll be talking to Chad Holmes that way as well.
A lot of fun ahead of us.
So Earl's not going anywhere.
Hope you aren't either.
Come on back.
Pack quite low.
Todd Albault, Zombers on the other side.
This is the Todd Albault show for a Tuesday.
On the Civic.
media,
righty now.
Untuned fishing knowledge so large he had to go to three hours to give it to you every morning.
Pat Critello of the newly named mornings with Pat Critello starting next week across Pacific Media from 6th until 9 a.m.
Patrick Critello joins us every Tuesday.
We'll see where we're kind of working out all of our new schedules, but the good news is we'll still talk to you once a week at some point.
Well, I just want to find out with the new schedule whether old man Trigvia is still coming along.
And if so, you know, can I can I get back to being reunited with him?
Because he makes me sound so young and virile all the time here.
So that's fantastic.
I would go for that.
I can learn so much at his knee.
We'll we'll see if we can get the band back together here.
April 15th at his tax date.
This is from the no, no, Todd.
They're never listening to us.
Pat and I were talking last segment about day being tax day.
I'm not, I'm not joking around.
Literally during the break on my phone, this pops up.
The weight we carry a tax day reflection from Main Street for small business owners and some, I mean, look at this.
You just talk about it and suddenly something pops up on your phone about what you're, no, none of, we're not being listened to by anybody.
No, no, no.
Nope.
It's all
good.
I mean,
Very interesting here.
Jeff Perry, your ongoing contributor and friend on Facebook saying, I have good news and bad news.
This tax day, the good news is by refund this year, $47,000.
The bad news, I'm going to federal prison.
I would suggest spending that refund.
Quickly, quickly, quickly, very quickly.
I was just spending it not at all.
Well, yeah,
there's that too.
Oh, Lordy.
Uh, Pat, it's, uh, lots going on, uh, news is every, every day.
I talked about this a bit with Jane and Greg on Matt Nair on air this morning.
I know you did on up North news as well.
There is a, uh, a new candidate on the Republican side, a new, uh, billionaire boy who wants to be governor.
I don't know if he's a billionaire, but I do know he's the, you know, CEO business owner.
And, uh, that being the case, it means that we're, we're.
doing another round of the Tim Michaels, Eric Hovde.
Let's run government like a business.
Let's bring out all the same old tropes.
And whatever this guy's situation is, his announcement read, no different.
He's a carbon copy of Tim Michaels and Eric Hovde.
And all I'm saying, and I'm not trying to make trouble.
That's not true.
I'm trying to make trouble here.
Good trouble.
Will somebody,
in the Republican party of Wisconsin stand up and go, no, no, let's, let's not try this again.
Now I, I'm not saying that there's some other perfect candidate who would, who would be the, the GOP nominee for governor.
I'm just saying that if, if you're going to run the same model for a third time at least, I mean, I think they were all hoping the Ron Johnson model would stick, you know, wealthy business guy.
But remember, he's got, he's got a lot more money behind him.
Yeah, and even even then he only squeaked through last time Maybe you want to look again.
I just imagine Rebecca Clefish looking at the radio going right right
The key is I think in Ron Johnson's case use your wife's money That's you know, that's the key for Ron Johnson.
No, this story.
We're talking about by Molly Beck and the walkie-journal Sentinel today Look, I spent 30 years the Republican Party before leaving in 2011 guys name is Bill Berry
or Barron, I'm Barina, I guess, B-E-R-R-I-E-N.
Never
heard of the guy.
Pro tip, if you're thinking of running for something, find a way to get the pronunciation of your name in there.
Have a little fun with it or something.
Yeah, no idea.
Never heard of him before.
Owned some company called Pindal Global Precision and Liberty Precision in New Berlin.
And, you know, he brings out the, and look, we've done shows on military bases.
I have great respect for our veterans and everybody who wears the uniform.
But here's another guy says he like Derek Van Orton.
He was a former Navy SEAL.
Look, if he is, if he was, God bless him for his service.
But that seems to be a calling card.
Oh, and by the way, I'm a multi-millionaire.
And he goes on, Pat, with some of the same tropes that we've seen from Maga Republicans.
Yeah, the whole, you know, boy should be boys, girl should be girls.
Let's beat up on China.
Let's give parent, trace, and education.
parents already have a say in their child's education.
So I'm not hearing anything other than, you know, him citing Donald Trump is going to spur the reindustrialization of America, which.
tells me this guy hasn't like watched the news the past couple of days because there's nothing about this current tariff policy that is going to reindustrialize.
We're currently in the process of depopulating America and we were already involved in a worker shortage.
So unless this guy's got some new answers, it's just a retread.
And we played the cut
yesterday of Trump, but Trump on his Air Force One going to the UFC fight at taxpayer expense and talking about.
these tariffs or not just the tariffs, but also the deportations and saying things like, well, you know, maybe we're going to work with the farmers, look at the farmer vouchers for some of these guys and they say they're okay, we'll let them stay a little while longer.
Oh, same for the service industry people, the restaurant service.
It's still, if it wasn't so sad pat, it would be comical how he's walking certain things back because guess what?
The tropes and the lies he was telling that immigrants are taking people's jobs.
For the most part if not all
simply not true.
No not even close to it and unfortunately far too many people are still Shall we say intimidated to the point that they don't want to have a robust?
pro-immigration stance to them you always have it couched in oh well if anybody commits crimes they they shouldn't be yeah we we know that we know that we lock up criminals currently but you if you're gonna lead with the this fraction of immigrants who commit crimes
you're going to throw overboard all the people who are coming here wanting to chase the American dream, wanting to fill the jobs that we are desperate to have people fill to build the prosperity of this country as the baby boomers continue to age out and fade away.
We are doing this so backwards right now and nobody's got the guts to say that this is a policy that has no economic basis and it's not based in public safety.
The statistics are there.
It's not based in public safety.
So what's left?
It's a state-sanctioned racist policy designed to win over enough white voters to go, yeah, I feel aggrieved by these people who don't look like me.
There's no thought into it whatsoever, and it's going to be so bad for our country in the long run.
We're going to come back and talk about this meeting yesterday at the White House with Trump and Salvadoran President Bukele.
Minute left, Pat.
Your thoughts on it before we go
to break.
I just don't even know how to handle people that don't recognize the constitutional crisis that we're in.
The only thing left to trigger it is for Trump to step up to a bank of microphones and say to the Supreme Court, you and what army?
And at that point, we're going to realize this is a guy that has no intention of holding free and fair elections or ever stepping down.
And then the question becomes,
What are we going to do next?
Yeah.
What we're going to do next is go through some of this, play some of these cuts from Trump and Bukele themselves.
I agree with Pat.
We are in a constitutional crisis.
Never a crisis, though.
Pat always makes us feel better every morning.
Six until eight, and students six until nine.
Thanks, Pat.
We appreciate you.
Back after this on the Civic Media Ready Network.
Welcome back the title ball show on the Civic Media Ready Network 34 now past 12 noon on Tuesday April 15th 2025 many thanks to Patrick Kraitlo for being with us Pat now gonna be starting next Wednesday every morning from 6 until 9 across the Civic Media Ready Network excited about that more Pat is Great.
It's fantastic every morning here on the Civic Media Ready Network Over the break you might have heard a little meditation music
meditation music, especially those watching on the stream.
So we're working on a couple of bugs.
Everything is fine.
No worries.
Glad to be back with you.
So just hang tight wherever you're at.
We're working on a couple of things right now.
But in the meantime, that was great at Zommerist.
I felt like I could just zen out for about three minutes.
Play that for people that might not have heard it because it's very therapeutic.
I feel like the Skexies in Dark Crystal.
Normally
oh, good movie, good
stuff.
Anyway, it's gonna be a, thank you very much for Pac-Quite Lo for being here, and coming up on the one o'clock hour.
Very excited about this.
TJ Samanshin is gonna be here.
He is the president and CEO of Wonder State Coffee, who of course is the 2025 coffee roaster of the year, as named by Roast Magazine, top roaster in America.
Very, very excited course.
They were so kind as to host us last year.
Trig V and Reed Galen and myself, we took the show on the road.
We did the...
did the show for the main cafe in Varroqua.
TJ is going to join us to talk about the effects.
He's part of Main Street Alliance here in Wisconsin.
And he's going to be here to talk about the real effects of the Trump tariffs on people like him.
Somebody who imports coffee, roast coffee, has cafes,
What do these Trump tariffs mean for Wisconsin small business owners?
We will talk to TJ Sumansion after the top of the hour.
And we have a what's worse for you as well.
And much, much more.
Right now I want to turn our attention, touched on it, touched on it before the break to this White House meeting yesterday with President Donald Trump and the president of El Salvador, Naib Bukele.
And I think before we get into the cuts, I got a couple of cuts for you.
I wanna give you a little history.
As our friend Matt Flynn likes to say, you're not woke unless you know history, you're not woke unless and until you know history.
And he's very right about that.
Never thought that my life knowledge and history of El Salvador and Salvadoran politics, whoever come into play, especially here, but here we are.
So for those that might not know, I'm not gonna tell the whole story again, but basically,
went for the first time to El Salvador in December of 1991 with a friend of mine from college who was from there.
We had hosted him as a exchange student in college, ended up going down there.
And in 91, just before the peace accords were signed to end the 12 year civil war that killed upwards of 75, 80,000 Salvadorans in that civil war.
And thus began my journeys to El Salvador and went back.
39 times thus far my last time was in 2019 so I Know the country fairly well, especially for a gringo and I've seen this country go from civil war and destruction and bombed out roads to a vibrant economy and That the through line are the people of El Salvador wonderful wonderful people better people you will not find and
What needs to be said at the top of this thing, and the reason you need to understand why Naid Bukele is so popular in his country, is that these folks at El Salvador have endured all kinds of strife, death, fear, crime.
There are people at El Salvador that have up until Naid Bukele came along, were taking different routes home for fear they'd be followed.
and robbed at gunpoint.
Lots of places you couldn't be out after dark.
I know business owners in El Salvador that were serious when they said, look, if you would say, let me chop off your left arm and we'll end the crime of the gang violence in El Salvador, I would do it.
They were serious about that because it was so bad.
And also Naib Bukele used to be part of the FMLN, the more liberal party.
It was the opposition party during the Civil War that got rolled into an opposition party.
And they've actually had a couple of presidents elected under FMLN.
And Naib was next, he was the mayor of San Salvador.
And he did a lot of good things in San Salvador.
He lowered crime to a certain extent.
He invested in public spaces and infrastructure, and he wanted to run for president in 2019, 2018, 2019.
At his own party, the FMLN said, no, you're not next to the line and said, we're not gonna endorse you.
We're endorsing this other guy.
And he said, look, that guy doesn't have as much experience and has done as much as me.
And he said, no, no, no, no.
just wait your turn naive.
And one of his parents, I forget which one I think is originally from Egypt.
And so that's why he has a not a common Spanish sounding name.
It's a it's an Egyptian more name.
I guess dad is from Egypt originally, his mom is from El Salvador.
Don't quote me on that, but that's more or less it.
And he said, well, screw that.
And he was like in his late thirties.
And he said so he was he's kind of the.
El Salvador version of Barack Obama.
Young, good-looking, wears a leather jacket and a baseball cap, super articulate, educated partly in college in the United States, fluent in English and Spanish and probably a couple more languages I don't know, and very proficient on social media, in particular Twitter.
And he went to the Salvadoran people and said, look, and this is true.
Both the right-leaning party, Arena,
and the left-leaning party, FMLN, we've had presidents from both.
Guess what?
Most of our former presidents from both party are in jail because they're criminals, and they stole from us.
How about we start a new party with new ideas?
In fact, we'll call it the New Ideas Party.
In Spanish, it's called Nuevas Ideas, and he started it, largely by himself and his supporters on Twitter, and it caught
fire and he was elected by a huge margin and then what happened to shorten it up a little bit is he said look i want to do this stuff and the supreme court said wait you can't do that that's against the constitution and he said well look see i'm trying to do stuff on these supreme court justices appointed by former presidents are holding this up
And the legislature, he didn't have a majority.
They have a unicameral legislature, just one general assembly.
And the assembly was kind of like, well, you know, we want to help you.
And so what he did was he brought in the military into the national assembly.
And they were all armed and around the exterior of the floor of the assembly.
And he went to the dais in front and he said, I'm here to pray.
I'm here to pray that God will lead the assembly in doing the right thing and voting me the authority to do what the people have elected me to do.
I'm going to leave now, but I'll leave the military here to make sure they encourage you to vote the way that God would have you vote.
I'm paraphrasing a little bit, but he brought the military in, he said something similar, and he left, and guess what?
The military vote, or the legislature voted to give him the power.
And they threw out the Supreme Court justices in El Salvador that disagreed with Bukeli.
He installed, yes, yes, people.
The press, La Prenza Grafica and Dio Rio de Oi, they called him out.
He intimidated the press.
Sound familiar?
And the people loved it because they said, finally, someone's doing what we want them to do.
And he pushed through his reforms.
And guess what?
During COVID, he had testing kits and masks and vitamins and that's a whole other kettle of fish that he delivered to every Salvadoran home.
He fixed roads and infrastructures and he suspended the law and the constitution of El Salvador and installed martial law.
And they set up a text line in El Salvador.
I'm not making this up.
They set up a text line in El Salvador.
If you feel somebody that you know or a neighbor belongs to a gang, text us and we'll come get them.
And they did.
And there is essentially no checks or balances, no trials.
They got sent to this big prison in El Salvador that Na'im built.
Beyond high security, they literally stack inmates up like dog kennels on top of one another.
30, 40 guys into a cell.
And so what was happening, of course, is that some people were like, well, that guy slept with my wife.
And they text into the anonymous line, this guy's a gang member, gone.
And the people love it because I haven't been there since 2019, the longest time I've gone now since I started going that I haven't been back.
But what I'm told by a lot of people that I know who have been there who still live there is that it is so much safer and the Salvadorans love it and he suspended the Constitution because you're always supposed to have one five-year term in El Salvador.
He got them to say, hey, have another term.
And he won by 90% in an internationally watched, democratic, democratically free and fair election.
So that's the history that everybody needs to know about this guy Naib Bukele and in my opinion now I believe that Donald Trump is looking at Naib and is insanely jealous and wants to be that and I've said and Naib he loves the fact he's called a dictator by the outsiders and he calls himself the cool dictator and Salvadorans love it
for the most part, not everybody, but for the most part.
So, and this is the guy that did not get along with Biden at all, Bukele, because the Biden administration was calling him out saying, look, he would write abuses, you didn't respect the Constitution, you were using the military improperly.
And so Biden and Bukele did not get along at all.
And now you got Trump.
Trump makes a deal Bukele will give you six million dollars to take whoever we send you Bukele says he's transactional sure Gets invited to the White House makes him look in Salvador and eyes like a winner and Then this meeting yesterday in the Oval Office Do we have time for the first cut somers the home so here is Naeem Bukele talking
Off-camera or off-microphone for US, but Trump was showing Bukele around the Oval Office and there was a Salvadoran presser that had their mic on caught Trump telling Bukele it's not just Outsiders he wants to send to Salvadoran prisons.
It's American
citizens
It's
hard to make out and and but I want it what the the key line is when Trump says the home groans are next and Bukele says that's fair we have space
The home groans and later when the American press were there they asked him and he didn't deny it He said look if they're home groans and of course he always puts the caveat in well, you know I mean I'm having the Attorney General looked at this Pam Bondi You know we want to follow the law, but if we're able to do it we were just we're only talking about the really bad people You know the bad people the Donald Trump has said are really bad people like former general Mark Milley
like Joe Biden, like Liz Cheney, like Adam Kinziger.
You understand now where we're going?
Trump wants, it is insinuating, not even insinuating, saying it right out.
He wants to send American citizens to a Salvadoran prison with no chance to return, no habeas corpus, no due process, no constitutional rights
that will never come back.
And they're the people that he deems Trump himself are dangerous.
8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2, gonna come back, play more cuts from this meeting.
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Right now talking and breaking down this meeting in the Oval Office yesterday, Donald Trump meeting with Salvador and President Naib Bukele.
I gave you the background here in the last segment.
I want to play this cut where Naim Bukele, the president of El Salvador, talks about the criticism that he's had from outside about locking up thousands of Salvadorans, many without a trial, and it's believed to be many innocent people for the reasons I stated in the last segment.
And here is his response and also his advice to Donald Trump about what he should do in the United States.
of america
sometimes they say that we increase in thousands i like to say that we actually commemorate the millions so you know like it's very good who gave him that like did you
think i could use
that
trump loved it if you didn't get it because again the audio is a little at that zombers fault it's just a source uh but a naive bukele says hey we get criticized for imprisoning thousands
But what I look at it is we liberated millions.
And I'll tell you, most Salvadorans agree with him.
They feel liberated from crime and gangs.
And they're like, yeah, it's too bad that some innocent people got roped up.
But unless it's one of your relatives or friends, you don't care because crime is so much.
It's almost, they've gone from the murder capital of the Western Hemisphere to one of the safest places now.
And the Western Hemisphere in El Salvador.
And Trump, just with wide eyes, says, that's a great line.
Who gave him that line?
Can I use that?
And Naeem goes on to tell Trump, hey, look, your responsibilities to 350 million Americans, liberate them, goading them on, saying, do more of this stuff.
Well, I'll play one more cut quick.
It's kind of slightly different, but one of the reporters, CNN, was asked, Caitlyn Collins, and again, the brashness of Donald Trump and his opinion of the free press in the United States.
What they've done to us at the border should never and can never be forgotten.
It's a sin what they did, and you are helping us out, and
we appreciate it.
Thanks.
Actually, what you're doing with the border is remarkable.
It has dropped about 95%.
It's incredible.
This morning, 99.1% to be exact.
Why are those numbers not on the media?
Well, they get up at the fake news.
CNN over here doesn't want to put them out because they don't like putting out good numbers.
They only like putting out because I think they hate our country, actually.
The president of the United States, the Oval Office, saying that one of the most, that one of the major media outlets in America, CNN, quote, hates our country.
Imagine if, as Trig V. Ulster reminds us, imagine if Barack Obama in the Oval Office had said on camera like that, or off camera, had said, you know what, I think that Fox News hates our country.
The MAGA folks would have gone apoplectic.
But he was fine for Donald Trump to say, you know, CNN hates our country.
And again, remember, he is now asking the FCC chairman, which is pro-Trump, who wears a gold Trump head lapel pin.
Trump is asking this guy to suspend the broadcast license of CBS.
CBS, because he didn't like one of the stories on 60 Minutes.
Again, this is right out of Naebu Kelly's playbook in El Salvador, intimidate the press and don't get them to report the truth, because it's inconvenient.
That's where we're at.
And then you have the sick of fans, the people who are just lapping up Trump's boots, Marco Rubio, Pam Bondi, Stephen Miller telling outright lies to the press, and they're not called on it, by the way, by anybody in the press.
in the White House yesterday, outright lies that this poor guy and the guy who's in prison in El Salvador is part of the MS-13 gang in El Salvador, which an American court initially brought that up or prosecutor, but because the guy had due process and his day in court, that was disproven.
That was proven as false information.
And the judge said at the time, because this guy
is fearful of his life in his home country of El Salvador.
Regardless of how this hearing goes, he must not be sent back to El Salvador, the one country on earth that the court said he couldn't be sent to.
And then fast forward to where now the Trump ICE folks round him up, disappear him.
There is no evidence proven in court by the Trump administration that this guy should have been deported.
There is no evidence he was part of a gang.
But yet he's disappeared and there's whole narrative of naive sitting next to Trump yesterday saying well nobody can do anything give me a break Trump's paying the United States is paying El Salvador six million dollars to house all these people if Trump had just said in front of the cameras naive We need this one guy back or you know what we're not gonna be able to pay that next payment on the six million He'd be back These guys are stroking each other's
Political egos will keep it clean.
They're dependent on one another.
They're the same type of person.
It's just that Naib Bukele is a lot smarter and understands that he has to take care of his own people to keep his popularity.
But make no mistake about it.
We are in a constitutional crisis here.
The next move is back at the courts.
Will the courts help to continue to uphold democracy?
or will they surrender?
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