Schimel Has Learned Nothing From Eric Hovde’s Failure (Hour 1)

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Good afternoon, everybody. I'm Todd Alba, along with fantastic Mr. Aaron Zomers on the board. It is six past the hour of 12 noon on this Thursday, March 6th, 2025. It is a great day to be Wisconsinite, sunny skies, and downtown Madison here at the World Headquarters on State Street. Lots of school buses. Time of year, Mr. Zomers, when...

school districts around Wisconsin, particularly fourth graders, still take that trip here down to Madison for some Wisconsin history lessons at the state capitol. Oh, I remember that. I'm never gonna forget that trip. That was so cool. It really is. And particularly for folks, I think outside of a half hour, 45 minute radius of Madison, I still think there are families, particularly in northern Wisconsin, maybe western Wisconsin.

even some of the Southwest from Wisconsin, where it's still a big deal to go to Madison. It always was for me. I don't think I had ever been there before that fourth grade trip. And then until I moved here, it was only a couple of times besides that anyway. Yeah. And again, we've been all over the states. This is not to say Madison is better than anybody else, but it's the seat of state government. Capital building is extraordinary, like no other building, certainly in the state of Wisconsin.

And so it's, uh, you know, it's great to, to get the kids down here and that great this time of year. Brittany Merleau is saying that a little cool today, but it's going to warm up. I mean, be, uh, for some parts of Wisconsin, a little muddy actually, at least for that top layer, some, some melting going on after much of Wisconsin got several inches of snow over the last, uh, 36 hours or so, but a beautiful day today.

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Matt Nair on air on our show going to be a lot of fun in hour number two in particular a what's worse today you do not want to miss history as well Wisconsin dairy industry history Olio Better known as margarine will be in hour number two. So that'll be a lot of fun also got a cut here Zabers has for us Brad Shimsham That's that's that's Brian shimsham shimmy this Brad Shimmel

Former Republican governor. Wow. I need to work off it Republican Attorney General of Wisconsin and Now he's running for Supreme Court and yesterday apparently when he was on the news shooting off What what what is it about these people in my former party? They don't like the elderly

They really don't. Which I find odd. First you had Eric Hovey, OC Eric Hovey out there at Orange County who thought it'd be nice and fun to come back to Wisconsin and run for U.S. Senate with a mustache. And he starts carrying on how people in nursing homes are all incompetent and shouldn't vote. He didn't say all, he just said most. Most, most. And now this guy, Schimmel, he's shooting us a mouth off now saying again,

that there's all this fraud and that people nursing homes are incompetent, which I find fascinating. So we'll talk a little bit about that. Also going to talk about the difference between addresses to Congress, Donald Trump and Joe Biden, when it comes to standing up for Social Security, Medicaid and Medicare. We're going to talk about the 80,000 cuts to the Veterans Affairs Department. Democrats also standing up for Ukraine.

We're gonna start close and also into more cuts coming apparently a Department of Education that that's the that's the The agency de jour of Donald Trump going after the Department of Education So we'll get to that a little bit as well But I want to start here in Wisconsin

with the Milwaukee Journal said, we talked about this a little bit yesterday as we were coming on or going off the air because this broke during our show yesterday, the Marquette Law School poll. And in Wisconsin, the Marquette Law School poll helped and run by, helped being run by our friend, Charles Franklin, who's put a frequent guest on this program. You can't find a straighter shooter than Charles Franklin.

A guy who's taught both at EW Madison and Marquette. Not a partisan guy. He's one of these guys who loves facts. He also loves a good whiskey or bourbon as well. But that's fantastic. Not while he's doing the poll of course, but in his free time. And also he has a connoisseur of coffee. Great guy Charles Franklin. Anyway, they put out their latest poll.

and Dan Bice at the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel writes this up and says about a month ahead of the April 1st election, a large percentage of Wisconsin voters still do not have an opinion about the two candidates running for the state Supreme Court according to the new Marquette University Law School poll. The poll found that conservative Waukesha County Judge Brad Schimmel has been viewed favorably by 29%.

of registered voters and unfavorably by 32%. About two out of five said they had no opinion of him. In contrast, his opponent, Liberal Dane County Judge, Susan Crawford, was given favorable ratings by 19% of voters compared to 23% who viewed her unfavorably. Nearly three out of five said they did not know enough about her. So,

That means that more people know Brad Shimmel, not unexpected since he served as a statewide attorney general. So more people know him. He has a higher favorability, but also a higher unfavorability. Fewer people know Susan Crawford, but she has a lower favorable and lower unfavorable.

Politicians trying to avoid having higher unfavorables than favorable percentages, Bice writes, a condition known as being underwater politically. The numbers show Schimmel was underwater by three percentage points while Crawford was underwater by four. Franklin said he chose not to do a head-to-head ranking, which respondents would say which candidate they preferred because the high percentage of voters do not know either candidate.

Another poll is planned, pardon me, another poll is not planned before the election, so we're not gonna get ahead to head. But Franklin, you know, this is Todd, my summarization here. Franklin basically saying, look, not enough people know these guys, so we're not gonna do a head to head. Franklin said, quote, we didn't ask the horse race question, unquote. The polls surveyed 864 registered voters between

February 19th and the 26th, the margin of error plus or minus 4.6 percentage points. The poll found that 39% of respondents had heard a lot about the Supreme Court race while 42% said they had some familiarity with the race. Nearly one in five said they had not heard anything about the contest. Now that's the fact that we talked about this a little bit that really stuns me.

You know, we focus on this stuff. We're constantly getting news information stuff like that But the fact that nearly one in five people said they knew nothing about this race 42% said only somewhat familiar with the race what that tells me Not a sophisticated poll person, but just as a person who pays attention and used to run political campaigns That tells me that people are checking out of the news

It reinforces in quantitative data what I've heard around the state of Wisconsin when I sit at bars in Hayward or coffee shops in Amory Or at the Packers Pro Shop in Green Bay And I bring up this show or civic media or any news at least a ton I just tune out I Get overwhelmed I get anxiety. I don't like to do anything about it. I just I'm not paying attention

I'm like, but what about the consequences? And they're kind of like, yeah, I'll deal with it when it happens. So this poll basically is showing a lot of people feel that way. And look, who can blame him? Who can blame him? Back to this story here by Daniel Bison, the Journal Sentinel. Overall, a little more than a majority of registered voters said they had a clear view of Schimel's position in the race, but 35% said they had not heard enough. For Crawford, 41%,

Said they knew where she stood on issues while 42% said they were unaware. Franklin said the voters unfamiliarity with candidates will change as the election years. Well, yes, I mean, just turn on the TV, right? I mean, that's just crazy. Other interesting details in this race where they come back and talk about just a little bit more and also hear this cut from Brad Shibble.

His thoughts on people in nursing homes Astounding don't want to miss it. It's the title of all show for a Thursday. We're here on the civic media ready to work

and having fun doing it. Welcome back to the Tahleball show on the Civic Media Ready Network. 21 now past the hour of 12 noon on March 6th. It's a Thursday. Zomers on the board talking a little bit more about this Marquette Law School poll that came out yesterday. Daniel Bice writes a column today in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel about it. A couple other interesting factoids here from this poll at Marquette.

Nearly 80% of registered voters said that they prefer the court candidates discuss the issues during the race. That was true of both Republicans and Democrats. And where this comes from is that traditionally in Supreme Court races, and this is a whole another bottle of wine cup of coffee, I still maintain in Wisconsin that the governor should appoint the...

Supreme Court justice and be confirmed by the Senate like they do at the national level for like a, you know, whatever, a 15 year, 20 year period, period. But we don't do it that way. That's a whole other discussion. So we elect our Supreme Court justices. And so, you know, in years past, it was tawdry. It was unseemly. It just wasn't done. If you were running for Supreme Court and they asked you about an issue, like abortion, voting, whatever.

The response was always, well, that may come before me on the court, so I can't discuss that. So, I mean, you know, Supreme Court debates were basically, I don't know. It was like, do you like the Constitution? Yes, I do. Were you ruling partially? Of course. Right. It was like watching paint dry, basically. And now, I mean, read more recently.

conservatives and liberals running for the court have started to put their toe in the water of actually talking about issues. And 80% of voters said, we're letting me like that. We actually want to know how you stand on something before we vote for you. But back to this story, a strong majority said of voters that they don't like it, that the state Republican and Democratic parties are now contributing millions of dollars to the Supreme Court candidates.

According to the polls, 61% of the public believes these donations reduce the independence of candidates. Well, that's a fact. And of course, Elon Musk, his super PAC, called America PAC, a grand total now reported spending up to $3.2 million on digital ads, texting, voter turnout in support of Brad Shibble. Among those,

ads that appear to be in support of Crawford, but actually attacker. So there's that. Meanwhile, Crawford is being helped by TV ads paid for a better Wisconsin together that attacks Schimel. That group is reporting spending $2.3 million. So it's happening. It's just that Elon's putting in about a million and a half more so far.

spending expected to exceed $56 million in a race that will be decided on April 1st. No foolin'. April 1st. There you go. Here's another interesting factoid in this Marquette Law School poll that's kind of, I know our own Stuart J. Waddles, news director at W.A.U.K. Milwaukee Walkie Shop. And this is one I think that

Folks need to pay attention to. In the poll yesterday, Marquette Law School, respondents said that the Republican Party is seeing favorably by 47% of the general public and unfavorably by 52%. And you say, well, okay, more than half the people view the Republican Party unfavorably, but just barely.

But then you look on the other side. The Democratic Party, according to this Marquette Law School poll, is viewed favorably by only 34% of the public and unfavorably by 62%. I mean, it ain't even close. And I think this was what has, in a larger context, this was what has a lot of folks concerned.

that Democrats, the Democratic Party, have an image problem. They have a marketing problem. And more centrist folks are going to say, look, we have to, as Brian Schatz said, the Democratic U.S. Senator from Hawaii, we have to start talking more like normal people and not spending so much time on more fringe issues that don't poll well, by the way.

In this Marquette Law School, for instance, on this voter ID thing, right? There's a constitutional referendum coming up on April basically saying that show the U.S. citizen to vote. 77% of Wisconsinites support that. Even though it's already the law, that doesn't matter.

So here it is. The photo ID vote is favored by 77% opposed by 22%. Marquette Law School poll says that a dozen polls since 2012, the lowest support for photo ID requirement was 63% and that was back in 2014. When asked in August of 2021, 74% favored photo ID. So if 77% of Wisconsin voters are in favor of something,

even though if you really dig into the facts, you can understand why that's skewed. But if you have 77% of your electorate that is in support of something, why would you spend your time really pushing that one issue and putting it out there on upfront? It's no wonder that Democrats are way underwater on their perception.

There are other issues in this poll like Medicaid, which Wisconsin, Wisconsinites are a hundred percent four. Not a hundred percent, but I mean, they're very much in four. Here's one, 64% of Wisconsin voters favor legal abortions in all or most cases. That's a good one. Medicaid, Wisconsinites support that. Education, Wisconsinites support that. So instead of Democrats,

putting these issues out there and leading on them that are vastly unpopular. They want to die on a hill and tilt at windmills. Now, on the far left side, I'm going to say far left, the progressive law, the really progressive wing of the party. Those folks are angry because they say that that's what Democrats should be standing for. And why aren't the Democrats taking bold steps to be brave and to push things through?

And this is what's dividing the Democrats and making it very difficult for them to win elections. Also, raise money. We'll come back and tell you how bad after this. Take your phone calls as well. Stay tuned for Pay Me Yankee and The Farm Report. This is Todd Albault on the Civic Media Ready Network.

Welcome back to the Tell All Ball show on the Civic Media Ready Network. A couple of average, ordinary guys, all-ball and zombers. 34 minutes past the hour of 12 noon on Thursday, March 6th. That's pretty good. Kind of a weird tune. Yeah, but we're pretty ordinary. We're pretty average. We're average people. We don't try to put ourselves off as anything great shakes. We're just here to observe and offer a couple of comments based on experience. Talking about this article in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel by Dan Bice.

And the Marquette Law School poll that came out, showing that most people don't know enough about the Supreme Court candidates to have an opinion, which I find both fascinating, but also confirming in the sense that as we travel the state, most people have just said, look, I just, I get depressed by the news. So it makes sense. People kind of tune out until the last minute, like, oh, I guess I got to know something. And that's why we get all these gosh darn ads that drive us crazy.

I mean, that's kind of how I was before I started working here and realizing that, wait, I can actually, you know, do something and knowing this actually does help me and the people around me. Yeah. Brad Schimmel, as we said, let's play this cut, Zomers. Schimmel, tell us who this program is on. Let's credit them as we don't, nobody thinks we're stealing this. This was Vanessa Keldsen on WMTV 15 News in Madison. All right, interviewing Brad Schimmel, the conservative candidate.

and asking him about his position on the 2020 election voting in nursing homes. So to clarify, do you think that there were any issues with voter fraud in 2020? I saw the news reports that anybody saw where we heard that year that there were people who were in nursing homes who had been ruled incompetent for voting for years.

who suddenly voted in that election. And we didn't have the special voting deputies in to the sworn voting deputies in to make sure that this is on the up and up. Absolutely. There is some fraud like that. Sure. Once again, this is something, again, a narrative that Republicans try to use. Eric Covey, OC Orange County, Eric Covey of beautiful Southern California tried to use this against Tammy Baldwin in the US Senate race. Thankfully, it did not work.

this narrative that people, once you go into a nursing home assisted living, elder care, that you're incompetent. I know a lot of people that are in assisted living in what you would be called nursing homes. There are wonderful, vibrant people well into their 90s who keep track of the news better than most of us and who vote. Maybe Brad Schimmel's

Fear is, is that folks in nursing homes are going to start paying attention to the news, which they already are, and find out that Republicans, like Schimel's old buddy, Scott Walker and Donald Trump and Derek Van Orton and Glenn Grossman and Tom Tiffany and Scotty Fitzgerald, all those folks are in the process of cutting.

programs that people in nursing homes rely upon like Medicaid and Medicare. Because all of this stuff that, not all of it, many of the things and some of it that I talk about and I'll admit that because I think it's, I think that it's important to address some of these big lies head on and give you the facts. But much of this stuff is to fog it up.

A friend of mine sent me something this morning about the fog out there. And he's absolutely right. And what I'm trying to do is cut through the fog a little bit here and say, here's what really matters. And one of the things that's really gonna matter quickly coming up in a week or so, the government needs to pass federal government a continuing resolution or a bill to keep government funding or the federal government will shut down in its entirety. And then there's the budget coming up.

in which Republicans and Donald Trump and Elon Musk, in order to get the tax cuts that they say they need, the only way you could do that, simply even a guy like me who's not great at math can understand this, the only way you could get to those trillion dollar tax cuts is by cutting entitlement programs such as Social Security, Medicaid and Medicare.

So that's why Brian Brad Schimmel is trying to Say we got to be careful about these folks in nursing homes because you know, they might be angry and might actually vote And remember we just had that state audit that came out the audit of the 2024 election zero fraud Why the zero fraud there were four people human counting things that had the wrong for

All the machines were were correct Let's play the cut quickly and I'll get to the phones eight five five seven five two four eight four two eight five five seven five two four eight four two Hang on the lines a bit longer closer and get to you. I just want to take us back a year We just got done hearing President Trump give his presidential address. Let's go back one year To Joe Biden president Joe Biden

standing in the same place. And he brought up Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. Many of my friends on the other side of I want to put Social Security on the chopping block. If anyone here tries to cut Social Security, Medicare, or raise the retirement age, I will stop you. The working people who built this country

Pay more into social security than millionaires and billionaires do it's not fair We have two ways to go Republicans can cut social security and get more tax breaks to the wealthy. I will that's the proposal Oh No, you guys don't want another two trillion dollar tax cut. I kind of thought that's what your plan was Well, that's good to hear see that's how you do it

Doesn't it seem incredible that was a year ago? Yeah, wow, I mean a year ago. That's where we were a Vibrant Joe Biden standing in the well of the US House and getting Republicans in front of the nation To yell out and say no, we don't want to cut Social Security and Medicaid and Medicare. He goaded them by did did Because remember Scott Rick Scott of Florida actually had the plan Biden said come my office. I got it. I got your plan

And he called him out and he said, your guys are gonna wanna do this. And remember how Drone Johnson, he screamed like a scalded cat and ran for the hills? That's the way that you connect with voters. That's the way you do it. Joe Biden knew how to win elections. I'm not saying he should have been the nominee in 2024.

But he knew how to reach across the aisle and get people in the middle and connect on real issues 8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2 8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2 where we certain summers start with Brian in McGowan ago Brian. Thanks for calling in. Let's see Hi guys, I just wanted to chime in about something I had brought up with mr. Earl Ingram a couple of months back and that

My frustration with the Democratic Party and everything that's going on is basically how we got to this point. And I had stated that I felt that the Democrats were partially to blame for why we are here where we are, that via messaging or just lack of action on certain policies. Agreed. But what I mentioned, what Mr. Zalmer asked me, what I wanted to talk about, and I said voter apathy.

Back when I was just turning 18 and I voted for Ross Perot because I thought it was a joke. And then I didn't vote for barely anything for that for the longest time. And then I started listening to civic media and I started getting a whole lot more involved. And I was voting in every single election I could. And now I can't say I feel any more apathetic.

than even when i was kid i feel more apathetic now than i did when i was younger why is that and i'm curious well part of it was because of the what i saw the other night when trump was given a speech and the democrats were holding up these panels and i was just it was so disheartening it just i've been calling the democrats backlist for a while now and i believe it to be so when aoc

was up for that um you know committee chair and the powers that be given a letter hat they gave it to some guy who's you know got one foot in the grave and you know the democratic machine got to used to all their corporate donations they're just as guilty as a lot of the republicans when it comes to you know

money in politics. Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this because I'm up against the clock. I want to get other people to change quickly if you can. As my former boss Scott Klug used to ask me once in a while driving around, he said, if you rule the world and you don't, but if you rule the world, Brian, what would you other Democrats do to make you less apathetic, to excite you as a voter? Do more than strongly worded letters and always take in the high road because it's not working.

All right, I appreciate that all stick around I got to take on Al Green because I had an opinion yesterday And I want to play what he said yesterday and as they say in Congress revise and extend my remarks 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 mark in per to sack mark. Thanks for holding on. Let's see Yeah, I think well first you brought up for the voter ID thing Maybe they put the Democrats need to do is pass something so they can say guarantee people are able to access

the way to get a voter ID and make it guarantee their right to vote because they actually have the proper identification that they need to vote. And for Brad Schimmel, we should say BS Brad Schimmel because we don't all know what BS means. His initials match perfectly with that because he's never been anyone that's been less than full of that, particularly the material.

Yeah, I think that the fact that he like Cove D is saying that people in nursing homes should be questioned about their ability to vote I think a lot of people will find that offensive and also another thing to note Brad Schimmel knows it's wrong if you listen I heard more of the interview last night on the news and before that he was speaking confidently he's asked this question and he's Stumbling through the answer like he knows that it's nonsense what he's playing to the base

And you look at the poll numbers and you see why this is going to be a very basic election. Eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two. Whisco Paul. Whisco. Always a pleasure. Let's see. Good afternoon, Tom. Hey, um, as far as shimmer goals, he wants to, he's just out for fair maps. And one of the reasons you had so many downbeat Democrats is because the maps were gerrymandered.

And you didn't even feel like if you lived in a lot of these districts, you had to say because you really didn't because the Republicans picked their voters. So it's a lot fairer right now. So that's a step in the right direction. And you know, with Schimel, you're not going to get fair maps. You're not going to get a fair shake on a lot of things because he's a Scott Walker boy. Also on the national on the national

side of things here. If you don't think the Republicans are coming for Medicaid, I don't know about Medicare, but Medicaid, you're wrong. You're coming for that. Because they need that money to fund these tax cuts for the wealthy. And if you don't think they're going to do that, you're also wrong. Right. Appreciate the call, Westcote. Thank you so much. Up against the clock here. Let's go quickly to WCFW in Eau Claire, our friend Gene up there. Gene, if you can make a quick one minute, please. Yes, I'm calling to see you. I was scanning job. You took the great work.

Please keep playing from Schimel's own voice. The words that he has said previously, now, and ongoing. Thank you so much. Seriously, Todd, you're doing an outstanding job. Thank you. Bye. We appreciate you and all you folks make the show go. 855-752-442, Ollie up the Northwoods. Ollie, thanks for calling in. What's up? Well, I just want to say that Schimel's view of nursing homes

is a crock. There are a lot of people who live in nursing homes. I worked in one for a while. My dad was also in one for a while towards the end of his life. And his cognitive abilities were A1. He only went in to the nursing home after a surgery. And there are a lot of people in nursing homes who are there for rehab or who are there because they just can't make it in their own homes.

but that doesn't mean they're not smart enough to vote. Right, no, I totally agree, Ollie. As someone who has had grandparents use nursing homes, there's been a lot of time in them, worked with nursing home administrators. I find it one of the highest privileges that we can ever have, getting to care for someone in the twilight of their life. There's dignity there if we approach it that way.

And the fact that Trump and Musk and Republican leaders are now looking at cutting Medicaid dollars and disenfranchising the elderly to give billionaires tax cuts, I find appalling. Stay tuned. Come on back. Todd revises and extends remarks. You don't want to miss it. It's the all ball show on the Civic Media Radio Network.

and having fun doing it. Welcome back to the Toddleball Show of the Civic Media Radio Network. Xamar is on the board now nine before the hour of one o'clock at the top of the hour. ABC and CBS News coming up in the hour number two, Little What's Worst for You, Oleo Edition, Butter or Margarine. Very controversial. Not for me, but for Sub. Welcome back to the show. Great to have you along.

Making an appearance, ladies and gentlemen, from beautiful WXCO, Bull Falls Radio, our great station up there, the one, one of the two hardest working men in civic media company, Chad Holmes. How are you, my friend? Just wandering the halls, wandering the streets here in Madison. I decided to stop by. No, I've never been at the world headquarters. I cannot believe that.

You've never been in this building? I never did. Last time I came, you were at the old building. Oh, over on University Avenue. Yeah. We were doing the broadcast out of the back of a Panera. So that was it. I know. This is much better. Much, much better. Now, you host a great show every day from, did you do your show in the drive? I did.

Wow, you make good time. And I see one of my guests from this morning's show on your big morning. Well, yeah, I see that. I see it. We'll talk more about Chad. He and Phil need because Chad and Phil, they have shows in the morning. They have talk shows. They do high school sports and appreciate you so much. But yeah, so we're talking a little bit about Brad Schimmel and the Supreme Court race. 855-752-4842. Nancy up in beautiful Wausau. Nancy.

Chad Holmes is here in person. How serendipitous. How are you? Hi, and hi again, Chad. I talked to her a couple of hours ago. What do you have for us? Well, I just wanted to comment on this crap with Shimo and with the Republicans and Medicaid. You know, I'm looking at up here just north of me, 40% of the people

in those nursing homes are on Medicaid. You're gonna take that away from what, you're crippling the Northwoods for one. You're crippling everybody in the state. And yeah, we need to vote for Susan Crawford, okay? That's all I've got.

Have a good time tonight, Chad. Bye. Thanks, Nancy. And real quick, Nancy, she's the chair of the Marathon Coney Democratic Party. And they had an event with Judge Crawford recently. And it really kind of crystallizes, I think, a lot of what is often right with our politics and our civics and what is wrong. Because I looked at they had a packed house of 75 folks asking and getting questions answered by Judge Crawford.

And then you have a man that will never step foot in this state, Elon Musk putting in millions of dollars. And again, I mean, and we were talking actually on the air this morning, I said, yes, the law has been made. At this point, we may not like it, but that Elon Musk is able to put that money somehow into our elections.

But the thing that kind of annoyed me and I'm sure you saw it with Dan Bice's column about, you know, trying to twist, you know, make these, make these so-called pro Crawford messages and they're really anti Crawford. I mean,

But I saw the pictures of the event with Judge Crawford in Wausau last week that Nancy had sent over. And it just said to me, everything I was right, these are people that go and knock on doors, the 75 people in that room talking to the judge and working at the real grassroots level. And it just feels like somehow we have to get to the point again where...

it's not how much money you can put into a campaign. And I know that there's a lot of levels to that, but it just made me feel good when I see 75 people in a room talking to a candidate who's willing to answer questions. Right now, we don't see as much of that with some of the lack of town halls and the like. But again, I have to admit, I have not been

in a good space for a number of months now, to be honest with you. But when you see something like that, yeah, and you see something like that, it makes you feel good that these people really do want to do it the right way.

We have a resident doctor here in the show, Dr. Robert from Michelin Center, let's see in WRCE. This is great, great info. So legally speaking of Schimmel coming out and saying he has concerns about people in nursing homes voting, saying legally you have the right to vote unless it is removed by a court. So activating a healthcare power of attorney does not remove the ability to vote. Guardianship medical forms include a question whether the physician or psychiatrist feels the person can maintain the ability to vote. So even people on

under guardianship may retain the ability to vote depending on how the judge rules. So if a person in a nursing home states they want to vote, the staff in the facility are obligated to help them unless they have a guardianship prohibiting them from voting.

Great, great information. I was listening to my drive here. And when you were talking about Brad Schimel and older Wisconsinites, my first thought is, did he hire Eric Havde as his campaign manager? I mean, it sounds like this from the same playbook and it didn't work. I believe he's growing a mustache now, Schimel is. 855-752-4842. Let's go quickly to Tim in Whitewater. Tim, if you can be brief, please go ahead.

Yeah, the other aspect of this is there are a lot of people, it isn't just the voting, there are a lot of people who put their homes in a trust at the behest of lawyers, which creates problems for, and I worked in a setting like this, then when you try to get people in there, you know, the lawyer's got the money, the family's in the home is in a trust, the kids get the money, and then the rest of us in society.

get left picking up the tab for someone in a nursing home. So that's, it's nothing to do with the voting aspect, but it's a real aspect of it. There is a, you know, some of this as a result of, and I saw it too, the facility has to be careful too. We have seen cases where, you know, somebody's daughter comes in, they're well intended, but they're going around and trying to get a good facility will work with people on allowing them to vote if they are competent.

If the facility isn't on its toes, you can have somebody come in and help walk through the building and get people to vote even when they're not competent. Tim, I'm up against the clock. Tim, I'm up against the clock. I want to get Cindy in quickly. Cindy, Appleton, 30 seconds. What do you have? Well, I met her for 100 years last night at the Adam Kissinger Beach up in Green Bay.

Chrissy Lyre oh dr. Lyreley dr. Lyreley. Yes, of course absolute. Oh, oh my old friend Kristen Bride. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah Kristen Bride Yep, she's up there. She's fantastic to say that Yep, as Adam Kissinger is no longer Republican either. He has come from the dark side over appreciate it Cindy Chad Holmes. Thanks so much to catch Chad every day on WXTO from 8 until 10. Have a great call down here. Thank you back after this

Live from the Civic Media World Headquarters in Madison, Wisconsin, it's the Todd Alba Show. And now, pursuing truth wherever it may lead, here's your host, Todd Alba. Across Wisconsin on the Civic Media Radio Network and streaming worldwide on the Civic Media app,

Good afternoon, everybody. Todd all along their producer and engineer, the outstanding Mr. Aaron Zommers on the board. It is six past the hour of one o'clock. Welcome in the hour number two of the big program here on this Thursday, March 6th, 2025. It is a great day to be Wisconsinite sunny skies and a cloud in the sky that I can see.

Out of the world headquarters here in downtown Madison on State Street. Great to have you along. How about Chad Holm's top of bizomers? Now, there's a guy that's getting it done day in and day out, just like our friend Phil Knee at WRCO. Holm's up there at WXCO in Warsaw. He's getting up before the chickens get up. He's doing a show. He's doing a couple of hours of a radio show. And then he's going out at night and broadcasting hockey and baseball and the list goes on and he's down here now.

Broadcasting State High School Hockey. Yeah, those two work so hard. Right. And deserve praise. And it's always good to hear his takes. And I'm glad that he got to come on coincidentally when somebody from Wausau called in. Exactly.

It just shows you how we're all kind of connected. And good luck to all those Wisconsin High School hockey teams, boys and girls who are participating here in Madison this weekend. It is serious stuff, these hockey state tournaments. So big kudos to all of them. You can listen to those broadcasts, by the way. If you don't live in Warsaw via the Civic Media app, simply download it at your Apple or Android device. Type in Civic.

on the old search bar in your app store, Civic CIVIC media. It'll pop up, takes less than a minute to download. It's free. Gratis won't cost you a dime. It's what Gail King over there at CBS calls a deal. The Civic Media app. Listen to Chad tonight on the Civic Media app. Lots to get to this hour, including what's worse on butter or margarine. That'll be fun.

I don't think it'll be close, but maybe maybe we'll maybe people feel differently than me. I don't know I'm gonna talk more about these cuts Yesterday being announced at Department of Veterans Affairs 80,000 employees and now today word is that Trump is going to effectively shut down the US Department of Education Which is ironic for me at least

that it happens today because today, the 6th of March would have been my maternal grandmother, Marge Wallace, would have been her 104th birthday. She died at the ripe old age of 96. Before the show, I thought to myself, if I had said to my grandmother in her 90s, well, just think, grandma, in 2025, you'll be 104. Her reaction most likely would have been, oh!

I hope not. I hope I'm not around. Because, I mean, she worked her tail off, literally building a university and helping others to be an educator. She was a group as a farm girl. And by inter-90s, she had a, you know, she was a lot of pain, just her bones and everything. And she would say, I don't want to live to be a hundred.

And she didn't, she checked out at 96. And by the way, she lived the last eight-ish years in a nursing home and had all of her faculties up until the day she died and by golly, she voted. So she was the first woman to serve as a dean on the University of Wisconsin campus at UW-Richland with so many other people there in the Richland Center area, helped to establish that. And it survived for over 50 years.

until J. Rothman took over the W system and the Republicans defunded it. And Tony Evers said, I care, but not enough to do anything about it. That's gonna be a new segment. I care, but not enough to do anything about it. You know, J. Rothman and those guys, they're doing the best they can. Right. So anyway, happy birthday, grandma. I know you're looking down. Thanks for all you did. Your legacy lives on in so many lives that you helped. I still have people come up to me.

and say if it wasn't for your grandmother, I would have never got my education. I wouldn't have my job. It just goes to prove the ripple effect of one person on other people's lives. So there you go. Speaking of that ripple effects, I want to begin this hour. It was great to have Chad in here, but we didn't get to I want to revise and extend some remarks that I made made yesterday about the joint session of Congress, the presidential speech. Trump was there.

And Congressman Al Green, I believe of Texas, Democrat, stood up and it was shouting at Donald Trump as he was trying to give the speech. And Mike Johnson, the speaker, gave a warning, pounded the gavel, said, you're out of order. If you don't stop, we'll have you removed. And Green continued. And so they called the sergeant arms and had Al Green removed. I said yesterday that while I don't agree with Johnson on much, I agreed that was appropriate because

He wouldn't stop and people said, well, why isn't it okay for Marjorie Taylor Green and others to yell, why are it Joe Biden? But not. And I said, well, I know it's nuanced, but they stopped. They didn't continue on. Al Green did. And look, I'm 55. I'm an institutional guy. I worked for both the United States House of Representatives and the state Senate. I have seen firsthand that normally.

The most effective way to get something accomplished in these institutions is to have rules that everybody has to follow. And so I just said, look, I think what Green said was important that Trump doesn't have a mandate to cut Medicaid, but I don't think he did it the right way. Al Green took to the House floor yesterday and I listened to it. I saw it on Twitter, actually.

And I listened to it and I thought, I thought to myself, would I have listened to that if he hadn't been thrown out? If he just had a, if he just went to the house floor and said something, would I have stopped and clicked and listened to that? Let's listen to it and we'll discuss. Here's Al Green yesterday in the house representative's floor. And I did it with intentionality.

The president indicated that he had a mandate. I said to the president, you do not have a mandate to cut Medicaid. I have constituents who need Medicaid. They will suffer and some will die if they don't get Medicaid. I heard the speaker when he said that I should cease.

I did not, and I did not with intentionality. It was not done out of a burst of emotion. I was emotional about it, but I did it with intentionality. I think that on some questions, questions of conscience, you have to be willing to suffer the consequences. And I have said I will.

I will suffer whatever the consequences are because I don't believe that in the richest country in the world, people should be without good health care. I stood up for my constituents then. I'm standing up for my constituents now. I am grateful to Mr. McGovern for what he has said. I'm grateful to those who have been standing with me. But I will tell you, I appreciate you. No anger.

The officers who had escorted me out, they were kind to me. I don't blame the speaker for anything. Friends, I would do it again. I have to be candid with you. I'm not trying to in some way insult you. This is a matter of principle. This is a matter of conscience. There are people suffering in this country because they don't have health care.

I'll close with this. On some issues that are matters of conscious, it is better to stand alone than not stand at all. This is where I stand. Democratic U.S. Representative Al Green of Texas. So I listened to that. And I thought, would I have stopped on Twitter and listened if Al Green hadn't been thrown out?

And if I'm honest with myself, no, I wouldn't have. I thought he was exquisite in that explanation. I thought he was, I guess the other word is exquisite. It reminds me of the great late civil rights activist, John Lewis, who reminded all of us that sometimes it's good to have good trouble. And I think Al Green got into some good trouble. And while I still don't think that we should become parliament,

in the UK with Prime Minister's questions and yelling at one another, I think Al Green made his point. And the fact that he accepted the responsibility and said, look, I know whatever punishment's coming my way, I'll take it. Didn't make excuses for it, took responsibility, but he made a really important point. And it was a way to cut through in a time when it's very tough to cut through message-wise. So that's my second point.

pause, reflect, take on Al Green. I think he did what he needed, what he thought he had to do. He made a point. And by the way, it's a very salient one because those of us sometimes, including myself, are not paying attention to what really matters, what really matters are these votes coming up in Congress soon, which are going to determine Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security lives, actual lives of a lot of folks.

855-755-248-42, 855-755-248-42, L.A. Tom out in beautiful Los Angeles, California. L.A., what do you have? First off, Al Green of the hero of mine now. And also, you know what? People act like the only people that are on Medicaid and Social Security and Medicare are Democrats. Right. I mean, there's a hell of a lot of Republicans out there that are on Medicare and Medicaid and... In red congressional districts.

Social security, right? Yeah, absolutely. So I don't know. I would think that even Republicans would be saying, you know, thank you, Al Green for speaking out for me. It wasn't like a you lies thing where it was just basically just trying to make a headline. He had a purpose behind what it was he was trying to say. And like you said, Todd, he got that out. Now I'd like to say that money in politics and lobbyists in politics is what is destroying our country because of Citizens United.

This has destroyed our country. If we didn't have citizens united, we wouldn't be having millions of dollars going into a campaign in Wisconsin right now, Susan Crawford and BS. I mean, we would have basically people running for office. And for the gentleman that called before, look, it was the Republican sandbox. We're just playing in it now.

Hey, hang on. Before we go out of time, you put something in the chat. I want to address it. You said the 10 Democrats who voted for the center of Al Green today. I don't know this for a fact. My guess is if you look, there are Democrats who are in swing districts who barely won the races and are being attacked by conservative media in their district. And so this is a way to try to balance now politically. They're trying to survive. That's my guess. Appreciate the call, LA. Come on back. We'll play a little What's Worse. It's the title of our show. It's March 6th.

It's Grandma's birthday, and this is the Civic Media Radio Network.

I mean, fun doing it. Welcome back to Toddleball Show on the Civic Media Ready Network. 21 now past the hour of one o'clock. Birthday wishes, I mentioned before the show, it would have been my grandmother's, my grandma Wells says 104th birthday. She is, she departed, she checked out at 96. She's happy in heaven, I'm sure. Megan, one of our great folks here in the office in Madison says, coincidentally, it's also my husband Corey's 30th birthday today.

He loves listening to you guys while he's at work. Well, happy birthday, Corey, Big 3-0, just a young buck out there in the woods. So thanks for listening. And this brings up an interesting point. I'm thinking maybe for the summer, we start having people send in birthday wishes. I'm a big fan of Garrison Keeler, the old Prairie Home Companion show on national public radio came out of Minnesota. And for somebody,

very many years during one part of the show, they play music instrumental and he would read birthday wishes from people in the audience or people that listeners would call in, you know, send out birthday. I think that'd be lovely for us. And timely, timely indeed, as Mike Lucas likes to say, because we just bought Civic, believe me, I couldn't buy a raincoat. But the Civic Media just bought a brand new station.

Well, a legacy station in northern Minnesota. And when I say northern Minnesota, I mean, like to paraphrase sale, a sale, a pair, Sarah Palin, I can see Canada from my backs to ports. You really can. W. L. E. Y. End of the road radio. Is it E. L. Y. Or E. L. E. L. Y. Yeah. Eli. Eli, Minnesota. Sorry. The old dyslexia kicking in W. E. L. Y. In Eli, Minnesota.

And this is like right near the border of Canada and they broadcast to the boundary waters up there. And because their signal goes into the boundary waters, it may be one of the few if not only signals up there. They are licensed by the FCC to carry emergency announcements. Now, for those of you like me who are big fans of broadcasting and the old, the old and current CBS Sunday morning show that was originated and hosted.

So very many years by the late great broadcaster Charles Corralt who did the on-the-road programs and whatnot Well, he did a couple of stories on Eli and he fell in love with it So much so that when he retired for broadcasting in 1995 the station up there WELY was falling on hard times and he bought it And he ran it Charles Corralt WELY in Eli, Minnesota

until it's untimely death in 1997, and then it was sold and it's fallen into kind of disrepair and been shut down a couple of times. Well, now Civic Media has bought it and has breathed life into it. We have some, Craig, the trader, I think he's called up there, trader Craig, and one of the local personalities is back on the air.

And I think this is great because now through Civic, we can broadcast these things to the boundary waters. So I think we pick up on that. I think Charles Krall would love this and, you know, Garrison Keeler and we just read people's birthdays this summer. So maybe that'll be a thing later on this summer. But cannot wait. I know it's going to be local music up there on WELY. Might be an AM signal coming up there as well. I'm not sure if we're going to. I have a feeling the people of Eli, Minnesota may not want me other airways every day.

Because, you know, I'm a little, I'm a little harsh on the gophers over there. I will say, though, Phil in Minneapolis just called in and says it is pronounced Ely. Oh, really? Well, see, immediately, that's another reason the people in Ely don't want me there is because I can't pronounce their town name. Who wants this Wisconsin boy on our airwaves? Mark and Prairie Disact also texted in with that pronunciation. Well, I appreciate that. That's the, that's the, by the way, it's the first correct pronunciation effort, Ely. Ely, Minnesota. Well, thank you.

The more you know, the more you know. And they're they're lovely, lovely people up there in northern Minnesota. I mean, it's not Iowa. Watch yourself before we. I don't think we're going to. I don't think we're going to buy any stations. Iowa, but you never know. And look, we're all from the Midwest, right? We're just we're just we're just getting along. Thank you, Mark. Thank you for the caller. So congratulations to all the folks in Elie, Minnesota, who are now part of the civic media.

family. All right, we're going to start this now. We'll finish it on the other side. Time once again, 26 past little, what's worse? Here we go. Time once again for what's worse, nothing to give away. No grand prizes, but it's coming. It's coming. I cannot tell you I'm not allowed. They're very strict about this, by the way. I cannot tell you what it is.

But the grand prize coming up here soon in our text to win contest It's something you can share It's something you can share something you can use every day every day and something So much fun something you use every night every night and And if you have one and it's a good one You'll never go back

the grand prize coming up in our text to win coverage or contest. You're not gonna wanna miss it. But we have nothing, this is just your chance to have your voice heard across civic media. All right, here we go. Timely, timely indeed, because Easter is on, we're now into Lent, Mr. Zombers. Are you giving anything up for Lent? Probably not. All right. Well, I guess I would have had to know already by now, so I guess the answer is no. I traditionally, for Lent,

I give up abstinence. How's that working out for you this year? Somebody has to do it. I've given up abstinence for Lent. So there you go. By the way, I'm going to be on Pete Schwab is show tonight. Are you going to talk about that? Maybe I might if he asks. So it'll be a good time. Have by all join us tonight. 6 30 on Pete Schwab is show Nightlight with Conrad can be talking TV movies. I'm not sure abstinence.

They were asking last night, what do you give up for lent? I thought I'd save it for tonight. Anyway, what's worse, butter or margarine? Butter or margarine? 855-752-4842, 855-752-4842. What's worse, butter or margarine? Our ongoing contributor and friend Jeff Perry on Facebook says, based on your tease,

I can only assume the grand prize in the text to win contest coming up is related to the testicle festival. No, no, it is not. But wouldn't that be fantastic if it was for those that don't listen to us on WMDX at Madison? Oh, well, I guess a lot of people here. Pam Yankee Midwest Farm Report. She's later this week. She's going to be broadcasting from the testicle festival. This is a real thing here in Dane County, where they have all kinds of Rocky Mountain oysters deep fried.

All that kind of stuff. What would you put on your testicle festival? Rocky Mountain Oyster, butter or margarine? What's worse? 8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2. Come on back. It's the all ball show in Civic Media.

doing it welcome back to the top of all show on the Civic Media Rain Network 34 minutes now past the hour of one o'clock glad to have you along here right in the middle of our what's worse question of the day your chance to have your voice heard across Civic Media 855-752-4842 855-752-4842

Glad to have you along can also text us on the civic media app download the app for free and your Apple or Android device Give us a text in what's worse butter or margarine butter or margarine 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2. No, this is by the way More more clarification we were talking about our new station over in Minnesota is pronounced Elie

E. Lee, Minnesota, and it's W. E. L. Y. And someone asked, well, if it's over on the other side of the Mississippi, when did it begin with K? Usually stations west of the Mississippi are K. I don't know the full story. All I can tell you is that the original station signed on October 2nd, 1954 as W. E. L. Y. A. M.

On the FM side, it was originally called KQEQ as it was issued of the license on 1992, but then later on changed to WELY FM. So for whatever reason, it's known as WELY. Here's, all right, Robert, let's get on this. Let's reach out to Trader Craig up there at WELY and get him on the show.

We can ask Trader Craig. This will be fantastic. Great. Right. This is, I'm going to have some, we're going to have so much fun with this new station, Minnesota, up there, the beautiful boundary waters. Right now, what's worse, butter or margarine, butter or margarine. All right. Uh, MT in the Grove, better known as Minona Grove says margarine is worse. It's like spreading warm plastic and I refuse to spread neither.

on my testicles. Probably a good move. Because we were talking about this testicle festival. It's a real thing of Rocky Mountain Oysters here in Dane County. The Pam Yankee on the farm report is, I mean, it's a big business.

It is. And speaking of the Testicle Festival, for those of you not listening to WMDX in Madison, the John and Gordy show is a morning show we have here. And this is their promo for tomorrow's show. All right, here we go. John Peterson and Gordy Young. On our next show, Pam Yonkey will be talking about the Springfield Corner's Testicle Festival. If you're unfamiliar with what a testicle is. Wait, wait, no, no, don't go there. The John and Gordy show, weekday morning, six till eight. There you go. I thought that was hilarious. Yeah, tune in tomorrow.

from six to eight and you can learn more. Matt, what if our UPS drivers and Richland Center listening on WRCE, the old home station. Marjoram is worse. Butter is superior for cooking, shaving and sunbathing. Now this, and then another person said to him, this reminds me that old Seinfeld article where Kramer decides to use butter as moisturizer and suntan lotion. And that's not a good move. Not a good move.

Not a good move. Tony listening on WMDX and Beaver Dam. It's Wisconsin butter that goes on everything. So margarine is worse. Absolutely. Michael listening in Tosa on WMDX says butter is best, margarine is the worst. Kimber listening in Muscatie on WRCE saying margarine worse of all every day.

And half the night, only real butter forever. 855-752-4842. One more here from RCE. Our other UPS driver, Sean in the RC says, butter is better, especially when it's from Al Cam Creamery in Richland Center. I believe that they do it great. All sorts of great local butter in Wisconsin, right? All right, let's go to you, Ollie in the Northwoods calling back Ollie, butter margarine was worse.

Well, margarine is definitely worse. It's much more watery and I prefer to drink my water. And butter actually has recently been medically proved to be better for you than margarine. Right. So stick with good old Wisconsin butter, I say. Great call. Appreciate it, Ollie. 855-752-4842.

Zabers we got a text from Megan and son prairie saying I don't know I've never had margarine because the chefs in my family respect food too much to use it Wow, wow, I'm hating the margarine 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 let's go to Milwaukee beautiful Milwaukee on WM DX Brian butter or margarine was worse I Have to see margarine and I made the mistake once where I was baking and I thought margarine was healthier

And if you know what a dump cake is, you literally just take your pie filling, and I use cherry pie filling, put that on the bottom of a 9 by 13. You then take the chocolate cake mix, put that over, and then you're supposed to take that to butter, put that over the top, top of the oven, 350 for 45 minutes, and everything melts, and you got yourself a cake. Easiest thing to make in the world. Right.

Well, I thought, oh, I'm going to be healthy and I'm going to use bar-trun. 45 minutes later, I had the most stupidest mess in the world and I called my mom, going, mom, I thought you told me this was an easy cake to make and I have to be sober in an hour for a potluck. What do I do? Did you use butter? No, I used bar-trun. Well, if I tell you to use butter, you better use butter because with baking, you have to follow the instructions. That's so true. You go out to the store and buy a cake that night.

At least the thing is with butter, now they do prove that it is healthier. And at least you can get an unsalted version of it if you want to really talk about it, you know, right? There you go. That was, that was my biggest making mistake for the easiest thing to make in the world. I was like, how the hell did you mess up a dump cake? By using margarine apparently, right? Appreciate the call. Thanks, Brian. Thank you so much. And good luck on the cooking there. 855-752-4842. Kurt listening on WMDX in Madison. Kurt, butter or margarine, what's worse?

Margarine's worse, and I did a lot of research about the agents and stuff to mitigate bacterial growth while you're sleeping at night. Well, guess what? Small pad of butter, smear around in your mouth, swish it around, and... Wait a minute. Wait a minute here. Stop the show. I want to make sure I'm understanding. You're saying that instead of brushing your teeth, put butter in your mouth at night? Oh, in addition? No, I didn't say that.

All right. I said that. Say that before we go to bed, if you take a pad of small amount of butter and smear, you know, use your tongue and move it around your mouth, it'll mitigate a lot of the bad bacteria. Really?

I have learned something on this show today. No, I Google it. I'm just fascinated because I've never heard it. Yeah. All right. Thank you, Kurt. Appreciate it. News you can use 855-752-4842. Whistler, up on the RC, Richland Center, listening on WRCE. Whistler, Butter or Margeron? What's worse? Well, I would have to say that Margeron is worse. I remember back in the 50s, early 60s, my aunt and uncle lived in Chicago.

Every time they'd come up to spring rain, they'd bring two cases of margarine because it was cheaper than butter. So that was one of the things that happened in my young life. But yeah, I think butter is better. The families can be split apart by stuff like that. You got to be careful.

Appreciate it whistler. Have a great day up there in the RC eight five five seven five two four eight four two. Let's go to Chad Holmes country W XTO and beautiful was saw Dale in was on Dale butter or margarine. What's worse? Margarine is worse

But there's a butter, a stick butter is the best, but there's butters out there now that are spreadable butter. There's a lot of oil in that spreadable butter, and that's been shown to be detrimental to a person's health. All this oil in this spreadable butter, but stick butter is the best, margarine is the worst. Appreciate it Dale, thank you so much. They also have now, it's called hand rolled butter.

which is right from the creamery. They don't even shape it into sticks. They just take it raw and they roll it until it's a nice little roll. Not like more like an oblong roll, basically. Huh. Yeah, it's really good. Let's see here. What's worse, butter or margarine? Len, listening to WMDX of Madison, says, for the aspect of saturated fat, butter is worse, but for the aspect of America's dairy land, margarine is worse.

Tom and Jackson on AUK says, easy, butter is made from real dairy. It got a bad rap years ago when the corn industry paid for junk science that said butter was bad for you. Megan, oh, we already did that one. Let's see here. What else we got? We've got Katya in Madison. Todd, what is the binary thinking? I like butter and olive oil blend. Now, that's different, I think, than what our last caller was saying. You put

And that makes it a little bit more spreadable. I think as long as it's good olive oil, I think that's fine for you as well. Although I'm not a doctor, don't take my medical advice. Tom and Jackson, AUK says later it was proven that in the process of making corn oil to hold shape, it was not good for you. Yeah. Continuing this earlier comment about all the fake, alleged fake studies that made butter seem worse than margarine. Yeah. And in Chippewa Falls on WCFW says, do they still sell margarine? Butter for sure is better.

Yes, of course. They sell margin. Yeah, absolutely. Let in Madison, but our margin depends on if you want your dietary application before, after it goes into the cow. I like that. That's really good. I will say, yeah, it is important to have butter alternatives for people who are lactose intolerant. Sure. Exactly. But that doesn't mean that they're good. But they also have pills for that. I have some people that don't work as well. Well, take a pill.

Now, I'm going to tell you a story. Well, you got what's worse than honors, butter and margarine. Margarine. Yeah, I'm saying it's important to exist. I'm not saying I like it. I think I've heard this years. I think I told the story a long time ago on this show. I'm going to retell it quickly. I had a revel and I grew up in a dairy farming family. My grandparents on my dad's side were dairy farmers. So big lover of dairy. But then, you know, in the 80s or something like that, you know, margarine kind of came on, you know, as the caller said.

There was a texture, a lot of, a lot of fake science paid for by the core industry on, on margarine. And so I started kind of using margarine because it's supposed to be good for you. And I was back home from college and my mom used to have, well, she still does have the old kind of the stove, the electric stove with the coils. And so I was going to fry an egg. And so I put margarine in the pan to fry an egg. And then the phone rang before cell phones. Yes, I know.

And so I went to answer the landline and so I put the pan on its side. One side of the pan was up on the coil of the electric burner and one was on the flat part of the stove. And I went, I'm freaking who it was. And the phone call lasted a couple of minutes and I went back to the stove to fry the egg. And that big glob of margarine I put in the pan to melt, there was like a big glob of

whatever, still up at the top of the pan and then all this water at the bottom. And I thought to myself, I'm not putting that in my body. There's no way that can be good for you. And yes, I get it too much, you know, cholesterol or too much of anything is not good for us, right? But the other caller's point, dairy, if you get like good organic butter, I mean, it's it's it's milk and salt and enzymes. And that's it.

And you cannot beat great Wisconsin butter. As Ken Lewis taught me years ago, you can't beat it with a stick. So yes, margarine is worse. It ain't even, and you know, back in the day, like Wisconsin, uh, Olio, he used to call it Olio was outlawed. And Wisconsin restaurants to this day, you have to carry butter on the table. That's the law. 8-5-5-7-5-2-4-4-2 Tony in Beaver Dam, Tony, butter and margarine. What's worse?

I brought it up. I said, oh, but Olio is basically margin. Well, no, it's got oil right in the name. Right. So are you saying that Olio is worse than, than, than butter? Well, of course. I said that butter is the only thing for people in Wisconsin. So I'll go along with that.

Have a good day. Appreciate it, Tony. Thank you so much. Tom and Jackson says, if you put margarine, uh, outside animals won't eat it. I didn't know that. I've never put, I've never put it outside for an animal to try out. Uh, well, this was fantastic. This, this is a good one. Lots of feelings on this. Like overwhelmingly people have voted now that margarine is butter better.

Partridge is worse than butter. Can we fit a quick one in Steve and Middleton Steve quickly butter or margarine was worse Margarine's worse, but I usually buy it, but you know the story about Gordy Rose with a Republican from down around Dirlington Yeah, tell it quickly he claimed he tried this

passed a law that you couldn't sell oil in the state because of the butter industry and that. And he claimed he could tell the difference. So they ran a couple of different demonstrations and he could never tell the difference at all. I know. That's a great story. 700 corny road slip. All right. Come on back. We'll end up this show. It's almost show on Civic Media's Ready Network.

Welcome back to the title ball show on the civic media radio network. It is now nine before the hour of two o'clock at the top of the hour. Little CBS news radio or ABC news radio, depending upon which are great stations across the civic media radio network that you listen to, followed by a sports update with the great Mike Clemens, our sports reporter. How about them, Wisconsin Badgers last night? Speaking of Ely, Minnesota, our listeners up there.

Although we're not on you yet, but music is music is I Wisconsin went to the barn in Minnesota last night men's basketball and came away a winner by seven points 74 to 67 big game for the Badgers Jack Janicki This great kid from Minnesota who had D1 offers scholarships passed him by to come to Wisconsin

and I'm not sure if he's a walk-on. I don't believe it. I'm not sure if he has a scholarship now, but when he came, I don't think he had a scholarship. Paid in his own way to play for Greg Gardner, the Badgers, and Janicki came off the bench, had like six, seven points last night, and like with eight seconds left, took a bad shove or whatever, his face hit the floor, the poor kid chipped his like a quarter of his front, one of his front, and he has beautiful teeth.

Ah, it's unfortunate. And he got, he got up and he picked his tooth up or part of the tooth up off the floor and went to the bench and coach Garber's asked after him. He was okay. And he said, he'll be fine. He just looks like a hockey player right now. Yeah. Um, and so I recommended my dentist to them on Twitter. I said, here, Rob Bradley, go see him. Great, great dentist here in Madison. Um, but boy, the Badgers looked, uh, you know, the three point shot.

still not doing great, but badger Wisconsin. Now, still the number one free throw shooting team in America. Very impressive. How about that? On the other side, Marquette University, bad news for my former boss, Scott Clug, his Marquette Golden Eagles fell 72 to 66 last night to the Yukon Huskies. But.

I think Marquette will be OK. They're going to win a couple of games in the tournament, I think. But with that win last night, now Wisconsin finishes up the regular season with senior night on Saturday. They take on Penn State at the Cole Center. You can hear that game on the civic media app for free and on select stations broadcast over the air across the state of Wisconsin, then on the Big Ten tournament.

which the Badgers, I believe now are a right kind of tie. There's like three teams trying to fight for that number four seed in the Big 10 tournament, which means you get a double buy in the Big 10 tournament. And right now the Badgers still forecast for a three seed in the NCAA tournament, which means they may, may be able to play the first two games, the big tournament in Milwaukee at the PhiServe Forum. That'd be fantastic news.

A couple of this and that knows to end the show. The Supreme Court ruled five to four uphold a federal judge's order that compelled the Trump administration to release funding for completed projects to contractors and recipients of grants from the US Agency for International Development and the State Department, which amounts to roughly two billion dollars. So we'll see if the Trump administration actually implements that.

Gives these life-saving foods and medications to people around the world who are dependent upon them. We shall see also yesterday NBA player LeBron James court is fiftieth fifty thousand try that again Todd fifty thousandth career has had said fifty thousand points Wow in the NBA fifty thousand LeBron James incredible great athlete a health secretary

Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., the anti-vaxxer. Get this. This is interesting. Acknowledge the value of measles vaccines amid a deadly outbreak in Texas. I can't do it. I can't. The voice is still like I have to take a lot more steroids to do the voice. I can do it, but I'm not going to do it right now because it is hard on the voice to do it work into it. Yeah. Well, you know.

There are a lot of people dying of measles. So yeah, I mean, vaccines will help. Apparently Kennedy's motto is you can't lose if you take both sides. So true. Well, he kind of has the worst of both sides most of the time. We did not spend as much time on this today as I had planned, but we had other things going on as it is seemingly now every day. We mentioned a little bit yesterday as it broke.

I know Jay Mattner mentioned it this morning, talked about it with Greg on their show. Department of Veterans Affairs planning an aggressive, what they're calling an aggressive reorganization that includes cutting around 80,000 jobs from the sprawling agency that provides healthcare to retired military members, according to an internal memo obtained by the Associated Press and others. The VA chief, VA chief of staff, Christopher Sirick,

told top-level officials at the agency that it had an objective to cut enough employees to return to 2019 staffing levels of just under 400,000. That would require terminating tens of thousands of employees after the VA expanded during the Biden administration as well as to cover veterans impacted by burn pits under the 2022 PACT Act.

This is very important. And we'll continue to talk about this because regular listeners of this show know that few people admire, honor, and respect our veterans and men and women in service and uniform more than me. And although I never served, I had the honor and privilege of working with them during my time working in the US House of Representatives. The reason that Biden expanded the VA was to cover these folks

who put their lives in danger overseas, particularly in Afghanistan, and were exposed to all these chemicals that caused them cancer, including Biden's late son, Beau. And John Stuart has done amazing work to get this for these people. And now the Trump administration says, thanks, but no thanks.

We say thanks to each and every one of you. Thanks to Zomers. Brady Ewing will be here tomorrow talking Badger basketball and more, whatever you're fighting for, whatever you believe in. Do not give up. Keep banging your drum. Maggie Dawn is next.