Schimel Has Learned Nothing From Eric Hovde’s Failure (Hour 1)

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It is six past the hour of 12 noon on this Thursday, March 6th, 2025.

It is a great day to be Wisconsinite, sunny skies and downtown Madison here at the World Headquarters on State Street.

Lots of school buses.

Time of year, Mr. Zommers, when.

school districts around Wisconsin, particularly fourth graders, still take that trip here down to Madison for some Wisconsin history lessons at the state capitol.

Oh, I remember that.

I'm never gonna forget that trip.

That was so cool.

It really is.

And particularly for folks, I think outside of a half hour, 45 minute radius of Madison, I still think there are families, particularly in northern Wisconsin, maybe western Wisconsin.

even some of the Southwest from Wisconsin, where it's still a big deal to go to Madison.

It always was for me.

I

don't

think I had ever been there before that fourth grade trip.

And then until I moved here, it was only a couple of times besides that anyway.

Yeah.

And again, we've been all over the state.

This is not to say Madison is better than anybody else, but it's the seat of state government.

Capital building is extraordinary, like no other building, certainly in the state of Wisconsin.

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So that'll be a lot of fun also got a cut here Zobbers has for us Brad Shimsham.

That's that's that's Brian Shimsham shimmy this Brad Shimmel

Former Republican governor.

Wow.

I need to work off it Republican Attorney General of Wisconsin and Now he's running for Supreme Court and yesterday apparently when he was on the news shooting off What what what is it about these people in my former party?

They don't like the elderly which I find which I find odd first you had Eric Hovey OC Eric Hovey out there at Orange County who thought it'd be nice and fun to come back to Wisconsin and run for US Senate

with a mustache and he starts carrying on how people in nursing homes are all incompetent and shouldn't vote.

He didn't say all, he just said most.

Most, most.

And now this guy, Schimmel, he's shooting us a mouth off now saying again that there's all this fraud and that people in nursing homes are incompetent, which I find fascinating.

So we'll talk a little bit about that.

Also going to talk about the difference between

Addresses to Congress Donald Trump and Joe Biden when it comes to standing up for Social Security Medicaid and Medicare.

We're gonna talk about the 80,000 cuts to the Veterans Affairs Department Democrats also Standing up for Ukraine We're gonna start close and also more cuts coming apparently a Department of Education that that's the that's the The agency de jour

of Donald Trump going after the Department of Education.

So we'll get to that a little bit as well.

But I want to start here in Wisconsin with the Milwaukee Journal said that we talked about this a little bit yesterday as we were coming on or going off the air because this broke during our show yesterday.

The Marquette Law School poll.

And in Wisconsin, the Marquette Law School poll helped

and run by, helped being run by our friend Charles Franklin, who's put a frequent guest on this program.

You can't find a straighter shooter than Charles Franklin, a guy who's taught both at EW Madison and Marquette, not a partisan guy.

He's one of these guys who loves facts.

He also loves a good whiskey or bourbon as well.

But that's fantastic.

Not while he's doing the poll, of course.

But it is free time.

It also uses a connoisseur of coffee.

Great guy, Charles Franklin.

Anyway, they put out their latest poll.

And Dan Bice at the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel writes this up and says about a month ahead of the April 1st election, a large percentage of Wisconsin voters still do not have an opinion about the two candidates running for the state Supreme Court, according to the new Marquette University Law School poll.

The poll found that conservative Waukesha County Judge Brad Schimmel has been viewed favorably by 29% of registered voters and unfavorably by 32%.

About two out of five said they had no opinion of him.

In contrast, his opponent, Liberal Dane County Judge Susan Crawford, was given favorable ratings by 19%.

of voters compared to 23% who viewed her unfavorably.

Nearly three out of five said they did not know enough about her.

So that means that more people know Brad Schimmel, not unexpected since he served as a statewide attorney general.

So more people know him.

He has a higher favorability, but also a higher unfavorability.

Fewer people know Susan Crawford.

but she has a lower favorable and lower unfavorable.

Politicians trying to avoid having higher unfavorables than favorable percentages by rights, a condition known as being underwater politically.

The numbers show Schimmel was underwater by three percentage points while Crawford was underwater by four.

Franklin said he chose not to do a head-to-head ranking, which respondents would say,

which candidate they prefer because the high percentage of voters do not know either candidate.

Another poll is planned.

Pardon me.

Another poll is not planned before the election.

So we're not going to get a head to head.

But Franklin, you know, this is Todd, my summarization here.

Franklin basically saying, look, not enough people know these guys, so we're not going to do a head to head.

Franklin said, quote, we didn't ask the horse race question, unquote.

The poll surveyed 864 registered voters between February 19th and the 26th, the margin of error, plus or minus 4.6 percentage points.

The poll found that 39% of respondents had heard a lot about the Supreme Court race, while 42% said they had some familiarity with the race, nearly one in five.

said they had not heard anything about the contest.

Now, that's the fact that we talked about this a little bit that really stuns me.

You know, we focused on this stuff.

We're constantly getting news, information, stuff like that.

But the fact that nearly one in five people said they knew nothing about this race, 42% said only somewhat familiar with the race.

What that tells me, not a sophisticated poll person, but just as a person who

pays attention and used to run political campaigns.

That tells me that people are checking out of the news.

It reinforces in quantitative data, what I've heard around the state of Wisconsin, when I sit at bars in Hayward or coffee shops in Amory or at the Packers pro shop in Green Bay.

And I bring up this show or civic media or any news, at least a ton I just tune out.

I get overwhelmed, I get anxiety, I don't know I can do anything about it.

I just, I'm not paying attention.

And I'm like, but what about the consequences?

And they're kind of like, yeah, I'll deal with it when it happens.

So this poll basically is showing a lot of people feel that way.

And look, who can blame him?

Who can blame him?

Back to this story here by Daniel Bison, the Journal Sentinel.

Overall, a little more than a majority of registered voters said they had a clear view of Schimel's position in the race.

But 35% said they had not heard enough.

For Crawford, 41% said they knew where she stood on issues while 42% said they were unaware.

Franklin said the voters' unfamiliarity with candidates will change as the electioneers.

Well, yes, I mean, just turn on the TV, right?

I mean, that's just crazy.

Other interesting details.

in this race where we come back and talk about just a little bit more.

And also hear this cut from Brad Shibble.

His thoughts on people in nursing homes.

Astounding.

Don't want to miss it.

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21 now past the hour of 12 noon on March 6th.

It's a Thursday.

Zomers on the board talking a little bit more about this Marquette Law School poll that came out yesterday.

Daniel Bice writes a column today in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel about it.

A couple other interesting factoids here from this poll at Marquette.

Nearly 80% of registered voters said that they prefer the court candidates discuss the issues during the race.

That was true of both Republicans and Democrats.

And where this comes from is that traditionally in Supreme Court races, and this is a whole another bottle of wine cup of coffee, I still maintain in Wisconsin that the governor should appoint the

Supreme Court justice and be confirmed by the Senate like they do at the national level for like a, you know, whatever, a 15 year, 20 year period, period.

But we don't do it that way.

That's a whole other discussion.

So we elect our Supreme Court justices.

And so, you know, in years past, it was tawdry.

It was unseemly.

It just wasn't done.

If you were running for Supreme Court and they asked you about an issue, like abortion, voting, whatever.

The response was always, well, that may come before me on the court, so I can't discuss that.

So, I mean, you know, Supreme Court debates were basically, I don't know.

It was like, do you like the Constitution?

Yes, I do.

Were you ruling partially?

Of course.

Right.

It was like watching paint dry, basically.

And now, I mean, read more recently,

conservatives and liberals running for the court have started to put their toe in the water of actually talking about issues.

And 80% of voters said, we're letting me like that.

We actually want to know how you stand on something before we vote for you.

But back to this story, a strong majority said of voters that they don't like it, that the state Republican and Democratic parties are now contributing millions of dollars to the Supreme Court candidates.

According to the polls, 61% of the public believes these donations reduce the independence of candidates.

Well, that's a fact.

And of course, Elon Musk, his super PAC, called America PAC, a grand total now reported spending up to $3.2 million on digital ads, texting, voter turnout in support of Brad Shibble.

Among those,

ads that appear to be in support of Crawford, but actually attacker.

So there's that.

Meanwhile, Crawford is being helped by TV ads paid for a better Wisconsin together that attacks Schimel.

That group is reporting spending $2.3 million.

So it's happening.

It's just that Elon's putting in about a million and a half more so far.

spending expected to exceed $56 million in a race that will be decided on April 1st.

No foolin'.

April 1st.

There you go.

Here's another interesting factoid in this Marquette Law School poll that's kind of, I know our own Stuart J. Waddles, news director at W-A-U-K Milwaukee Walkie Shop.

And this is one I think that

Folks need to pay attention to.

In the poll yesterday, Marquette Law School, respondents said that the Republican Party is seeing favorably by 47 percent of the general public and unfavorably by 52 percent.

And you say, well, OK, more than half the people view the Republican Party unfavorably, but just just barely.

But then you look on the other side.

The Democratic Party, according to this Marquette Law School poll, is viewed favorably by only 34% of the public and unfavorably by 62%.

I mean, it ain't even close.

And I think this was what has, in a larger context, this was what has a lot of folks concerned.

that Democrats, the Democratic Party, have an image problem.

They have a marketing problem.

And more centrist folks are going to say, look, we have to, as Brian Schatz said, the Democratic U.S.

Senator from Hawaii, we have to start talking more like normal people and not spending so much time on more fringe issues that don't poll well, by the way.

in this Marquette Law School, for instance, on this voter ID thing, right?

There's a constitutional referendum coming up on April, basically saying that show the U.S.

citizen to vote.

77% of Wisconsinites support that.

Even though it's already the law, that doesn't matter.

Right.

So here it is.

The photo ID vote is favored by 77% opposed by 22%.

Marquette Law School poll says that a dozen polls since 2012, the lowest support for photo ID requirement was 63% and that was back in 2014.

When asked in August of 2021, 74% favored photo ID.

So if 77% of Wisconsin voters are in favor of something, even though if you really dig into the facts, you can understand why that's...

skewed.

But if you, if you have 77% of your electorate that is in support of something, why would you spend your time really pushing that one issue and putting it out there on up front?

It's no wonder that Democrats are way underwater on their perception.

There are other issues in this poll like Medicaid, which Wisconsin, Wisconsinites are 100% for.

Not a hundred percent, but I mean very much in four.

Here's one sixty four percent of Wisconsin voters favor legal abortions in all or most cases That's a good one Medicaid Wisconsinites support that education Wisconsinites support that So instead of Democrats putting these issues out there and leading on them that are vastly unpopular

They want to die on a hill and tilt at windmills.

Now on the far left side, I'm going to say far left.

The progressive law, the really progressive wing of the party.

Those folks are angry because they say that that's what Democrats should be standing for.

And why aren't the Democrats taking bold steps to be brave and to push things through?

And this is what's dividing the Democrats and making it very difficult for them to win elections.

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And so am I. We're just ordinary average guys.

Welcome back to the Tell All Ball show on the Civic Media Reading Network.

A couple of average ordinary guys, all ball and zombers, 34 minutes past the hour of 12 noon on Thursday, March 6th.

That's pretty good.

It's kind of a weird tune.

Yeah, but we're pretty ordinary.

We're pretty average.

We're average people.

We don't try to put ourselves off as anything.

Great shakes.

We're just here to observe and offer a couple of comments based on, based on experience.

Talking about this article in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel by Dan Bice and the Marquette Law School poll that came out showing that most people don't know enough about the Supreme Court candidates to have an opinion, which I find both fascinating, but also confirming.

in the sense that as we've traveled the state, most people have just said, look, I get depressed by the news.

So it makes sense people kind of tune out until the last minute, like, oh, I guess I got to know something.

And that's why we get all these gosh darn ads that drive us crazy.

I mean, that's kind of how I was before I started working here and realizing that, wait, I can actually, you know, do something.

And knowing this actually does help me and the people around me.

Brad Schimmel, as we said, let's play this cut, Zomers.

Schimmel, tell us who this program is on.

Let's credit them, so nobody thinks we're stealing

this.

Yes, it was Vanessa Kelzen on WMTV 15 News in Madison.

All right, interviewing Brad Schimmel, the conservative candidate, and asking him about his position on the 2020 election voting in nursing homes.

So to clarify, do you think that there were any issues with voter fraud in 2020?

I saw the news reports that anybody saw where we heard that year that there were people who were in nursing homes who had been ruled incompetent for voting for years, who suddenly voted in that election.

And we didn't have the special voting deputies in to the sworn voting deputies in to make sure that this is on the up and up.

Absolutely, there is some fraud like that,

sure.

And this is something, again, a narrative that Republicans try to use.

Eric Covey, OC, Orange County, Eric Covey of beautiful Southern California tried to use this against Tammy Baldwin in the US Senate race.

Thankfully, it did not work.

This narrative that people, once you go into a nursing home, assisted living, elder care, that you're incompetent.

I know a lot of people that are in assisted living.

in what you would be called nursing homes.

There are wonderful, vibrant people well into their 90s who keep track of the news better than most of us and who vote.

Maybe Brad Schimmel's fear is, is that folks in nursing homes aren't going to start paying attention to the news, which they already are, and find out that Republicans, like Schimmel's old buddy Scott Walker and Donald Trump,

and Derek Van Orton and Glenn Grossman and Tom Tiffany and Scotty Fitzgerald.

All those folks are in the process of cutting programs that people in nursing homes rely upon like Medicaid and Medicare.

Because all of this stuff that, not all of it, many of the things and some of it that I talk about, and I'll admit that,

because I think that it's important to address some of these big lies head on and give you the facts.

But much of this stuff is to fog it up.

A friend of mine sent me something this morning about the fog out there.

And he's absolutely right.

And what I'm trying to do is cut through the fog a little bit here and say, here's what really matters.

And one of the things that's really gonna matter quickly, coming up in a week or so,

The government needs to pass federal government a continuing resolution or a bill to keep government funding or the federal government will shut down in its entirety and Then there's the budget coming up in which Republicans and Donald Trump and Elon Musk In order to get the tax cuts that they say they need the only way you could do that Simple even even a guy like me who's not great at math can understand this

The only way you can get to those trillion dollar tax cuts is by cutting entitlement programs such as Social Security, Medicaid, and Medicare.

So that's why Brad Schimmel is trying to say we got to be careful about these folks in nursing homes because, you know, they might be angry and might actually vote.

And remember we just had that state audit that came out, the audit of the 2024 election, zero fraud.

Zero fraud, there were four people human counting things that had the wrong four.

All the machines were correct.

Let's play the cut quickly and I'll get to the phones eight five five seven five two four eight four two eight five five seven five two four eight four two Hang on the lines a bit longer folks are gonna get to you.

I just want to take us back a year We just got done hearing President Trump give his presidential address.

Let's go back one year To Joe Biden president Joe Biden standing in the same place And he brought up Social Security Medicare and Medicaid

Many of my friends on the other side of I want to put social security on the chopping block If anyone here tries to cut social security Medicare or raise the retirement age, I will stop you The working people who built this country Pay more into social security than millionaires and billionaires do it's not fair We have two ways to go

Republicans can cut so security and get more tax breaks to the wealthy.

That's the proposal.

Oh, no.

You guys don't want another $2 trillion tax cut?

I kind of thought that's what your plan was.

Well, that's good to hear.

See, that's how you do it.

Doesn't it seem incredible that was a year ago?

Yeah, wow.

I mean, a year ago.

That's where we were.

a vibrant Joe Biden standing in the well of the U.S.

House and getting Republicans in front of the nation to yell out and say, no, we don't want to cut Social Security and Medicaid and Medicare.

He goaded them, Biden did.

Because remember, Rick Scott of Florida actually had the plan.

Biden said, come to my office.

I got it.

I got your plan.

And he called him out and he said, your guys are going to want to do this.

And remember how Drone Johnson, he screamed like a scalded cat and ran for the hills?

That's the way that you connect with voters.

That's the way you do it.

Joe Biden knew how to win elections.

I'm not saying he should have been the nominee in 2024.

But he knew how to reach across the aisle and get people in the middle and connect on real issues 8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2 8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2 where we certain summers start with Brian in McGowan ago Brian.

Thanks for calling in.

What's a you?

Hi guys, I just wanted to chime in about something I had brought up with mr. Earl Ingram a couple of months back and that

My frustration with the Democratic Party and everything that's going on is basically how we got to this point.

And I had stated that I felt that the Democrats were partially to blame for why we are here where we are, that via messaging or just lack of action on certain policies.

Agreed.

But what I mentioned, what Mr. Zalmer asked me, what I wanted to talk about, and I said voter apathy.

Back when I was just turning 18 and I voted for Ross Perot because I thought it was a joke.

And then I didn't vote for barely anything for that for the longest time.

And then I started listening to civic media and I started getting a whole lot more involved.

And I was voting in every single election I could.

And now I can't say I feel any more apathetic.

than even when i was kid i feel more apathetic now than i did when i was younger

why is that

and

i'm curious

well part of it was because of the what i saw the other night when trump was given a speech and the democrats are holding up these panels and i was just it was so disheartening it just i've been calling the democrats backlist for a while now and i believe it to be so when aoc

was up for that um you know committee chair and the powers that be different letter hat they gave it to some guy who's you know got one foot in the grave and you know the democratic machine got to used to all their corporate donations they're just as guilty as a lot of the republicans when it comes to you know

money in politics.

Let me ask you this.

Let me ask you this because I'm up against the clock here.

I want to get other people to change quickly if you can.

As my former boss Scott Klug used to ask me once in a while driving around, he said, if you rule the world and you don't, but if you rule the world, Brian, what would you other Democrats do to make you less apathetic, to excite you as a

voter?

Do more than strongly worded letters and, you know, always take in the high road because it's not working.

All right, I appreciate that all stick around I got to take on Al Green because I had an opinion yesterday And I want to play what he said yesterday and as they say in Congress revise and extend my remarks 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 mark impertisack mark.

Thanks for holding on.

What's a

Yeah, I think well first you brought up for the voter ID thing Maybe they put the Democrats need to do is pass something so they can say guarantee people are able to access

the way to get a voter ID and make it guarantee their right to vote because they actually have the proper identification that they need to vote.

And for Brad Schimmel, we should say BS Brad Schimmel because we don't all know what BS means.

His initials match perfectly with that because he's never been anyone that's been less than full of that, particularly the material.

Yeah, I think that the fact that he like Covey is saying that people in nursing homes should be questioned about their ability to vote I think a lot of people will find that offensive

and also another thing to note Brad Schimmel knows it's wrong if you listen I heard more of the interview last night on the news and before that he was speaking confidently.

He's asked this question and he's Stumbling through the answer like he knows that it's nonsense.

What he's

playing to

the

base

And you look at the poll numbers and you see why this is going to be a very basic election eight five five seven five two forty four to whiskle Paul whiskle always a pleasure.

What's he?

Good afternoon.

Hi.

Hey, um, as far as shimmer goals, he wants to teach yourself to fair maps.

And one of the reasons you had so many downbeat Democrats is because the maps were gerrymandered.

And you didn't even feel like if you lived in a lot of these districts, you had to say because you really didn't because the Republicans picked their voters.

So it's a lot fairer right now.

So that's a step in the right direction.

And you know, with Schimel, you're not going to get fair maps.

You're not going to get a fair shake on a lot of things because he's a Scott Walker boy.

Also on the national on the national

side of things here.

If you don't think the Republicans are coming for Medicaid, I don't know about Medicare, but Medicaid, you're wrong.

You're coming for that because they need that money to fund these tax cuts for the wealthy.

And if you don't think they're going to do that, you're also wrong.

Right.

Appreciate the call, Wisco.

Thank you so much.

Up against the clock here.

Let's go quickly to WCFW in Eau Claire or friend Jean up there.

Jean, if you can make a quick one minute, please.

Yes, I'm calling to say outstanding job.

Keep up the great work.

Please keep playing from Schimel's own voice.

The words that he has said previously, now, and ongoing.

Thank you so much.

Seriously, Todd, you're doing an outstanding job.

Thank you.

Bye.

We appreciate you and all you folks make the show go.

855-752-442.

Ollie up the Northwoods.

Ollie, thanks for calling in.

What's yours?

Well, I just want to say that Schimel's

view of nursing homes is a crock.

There are a lot of people who live in nursing homes.

I worked in one for a while.

My dad was also in one for a while towards the end of his life.

And his cognitive abilities were A1.

He only went into the nursing home after a surgery.

And there are a lot of people in nursing homes who are there for rehab or

who are there because they just can't make it in their own homes.

But that doesn't mean they're not smart enough to vote.

Right.

No, I totally agree, Ollie.

As someone who has had grandparents use nursing homes, it's been a lot of time in them, worked with nursing home administrators.

I find it one of the highest privileges that we can ever have.

Getting to care for someone

in the twilight of their life.

There's dignity there if we approach it that way.

And the fact that Trump and Musk and Republican leaders are now looking at cutting Medicaid dollars and disenfranchising the elderly to give billionaires tax cuts, I find appalling.

Stay tuned.

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Welcome back to the show.

Great to have you along.

Making an appearance ladies and gentlemen from beautiful WXCO bullfalls radio our great station up there the one that one of the two hardest working men and civic media company

Chad

Holmes are

you just wandering the halls wandering the streets here in Madison I decided to stop by

I've never been at the world headquarters.

I cannot believe that

You've never

been in this building?

Last time I came, you were at the old

building.

Oh, over on University Avenue.

Yeah.

We were doing the broadcast out of the back of a Panera.

So that was

it.

This is much, much

better.

Now, you host a great show every day from, did you do your show

in the drive?

Wow, you make

good time.

And I see one of my guests from this morning's show on your big morning.

Well, yeah, I see that.

I see it.

We'll talk more about Chad.

He and Phil need because Chad and Phil, they have shows in the morning.

They have talk shows.

They do high school sports and appreciate you so much.

But yeah, we're talking a little bit about Brad Schimmel and the Supreme Court race.

855-752-4842.

Nancy up in beautiful Wausau.

Nancy.

Chad Holmes is here in person.

How serendipitous.

How are you?

Hi, and hi again, Chad.

Yeah, I talked to her a couple of hours ago.

What do you have

for us?

Well,

I just wanted to comment on this crap with Shimo and with the Republicans and Medicaid.

You know, I'm looking at, you know, up here just north of me, 40% of the people

in those nursing homes are on Medicaid.

You're gonna take that away from what, you're crippling the Northwoods for one.

You're crippling everybody in the state.

And yeah, we need to vote for Susan Crawford, okay?

That's all I've got.

Have a good time tonight, Chad.

Bye.

Thanks, Nancy.

And real quick, Nancy.

She's the chair of the Marathon Coney Democratic Party.

And they had an event with Judge Crawford recently.

And it really kind of crystallizes, I think, a lot of what is often right with our politics and our civics and what is wrong.

Because I looked at they had a packed house of 75 folks.

asking and getting questions answered by Judge Crawford.

And then you have a man that will never step foot in this state, Elon Musk putting in millions of dollars.

And again, I mean, and we were talking actually on the air this morning, I said, yes, the law has been made.

At this point, we may not like it, but that Elon Musk is able to put that money somehow into our elections.

But the thing that kind of annoyed me, and I'm sure you saw it with Dan Bice's column about, you know, trying to twist, you know, make these, make these so-called pro-Crofford messages and they're really anti-Crofford.

I mean, you just, but I saw the pictures of the event with Judge Crawford in Wausau last week that Nancy had sent over.

And it just said to me, everything that was right, these are people that go and knock on doors, the 75 people in that room talking to the judge and working at the real grassroots level.

It just feels like somehow we have to get to the point again where it's not how much money you can put into a campaign.

And I know that there's a lot of levels to that, but it just made me feel good when I see 75 people in a room talking to a candidate who's willing to answer questions.

Right now we don't see as much of that with some of the lack of town halls and the like.

But again, I have to admit I have not been

in a good space for a number of months now to be honest

with

you but when you see something like that yeah you see something like that makes you feel good that these people really do want to do it the right way

We have a resident doctor here in the show, Dr. Robert from Michelin Center, let's see in WRCE.

This is great, great info.

So legally speaking of Schimmel coming out and saying he has concerns about people in nursing homes voting, saying legally you have the right to vote unless it is removed by a court.

So activating a healthcare power of attorney does not remove the ability to vote.

Guardianship medical forms include a question whether the physician or psychiatrist feels the person can maintain the ability to vote.

So even people on

under guardianship may retain the ability to vote depending on how the judge rules.

So if a person in a nursing home states they want to vote, the staff in the facility are obligated to help them unless they have a guardianship prohibiting them from voting.

Great, great information.

I was listening to my drive here.

And when you were talking about Brad Schimel and older Wisconsinites, my first thought is, did he hire Eric Hovey as his campaign manager?

I mean, it sounds like this from the

same playbook and it didn't work.

I believe he's growing a mustache now, Schimel is.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.

Let's go quickly to Tim in Whitewater.

Tim, if you can be brief, please go ahead.

Yeah, the other aspect of this is there are a lot of people, it isn't just the voting, there are a lot of people who put their homes in a trust at the behest of lawyers, which creates problems for, and I worked in a setting like this, then when you try to get people in there, you know, the lawyers got the money, the families in the home is in a trust, the kids get the money, and then the rest of us in society.

get left picking up the tab for someone in a nursing home.

So that's, it's nothing to do with the voting aspect, but it's a real aspect of it.

There is a, you know, some of this as a result of, and I saw it too, the facility has to be careful too.

We have seen cases where, you know, somebody's daughter comes in, they're well intended, but they're going around and trying to get a good facility will work with people on allowing them to vote if they are competent.

If the facility isn't on its toes, you can have somebody come in and help walk through the building and get people to vote, even when they're not competent.

Tim, I'm up against the clock.

Tim, I'm up against the clock.

I want to get Cindy in quickly.

Cindy, Appleton, 30 seconds.

What do you have?

Well, I met her for 100 years last night at Adam Kissinger's Beach up in Green Bay.

Chrissy Lyre

oh dr. Lyreley dr. Lyreley.

Yes, of course.

Absolutely.

Oh, oh my old friend Kristen Brie.

Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, Kristen Brie.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh,

she's

fantastic.

Yeah.

Adam Kissinger is no longer Republican either.

He has come from the dark side over

to the other side.

Appreciate it, Cindy.

Chad Holmes, thanks so much.

She catch Chad every day on WXTL from 8 until 10.

Have a great call down here.

Thank you.

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