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August 10th, 20, 24, if it's 7 o'clock on 7 o'clock on 7 o'clock,

if it's 7 o'clock on Saturday morning, it's time for this week in Waukeshaw. I'm your host,

Downtown Dany Brown, and I'm joined by my faithful companion, the Mighty Max Martinson on the board,

Good Morning Max. And we are coming to you live and local from the office of former Alderman Don Paul

Brown here in downtown right around the corner from Theodore Yalman's Park, where we are proud to honor

our suffragette heritage here in the Shaw. And before I introduce this morning's guests, remember we

do have speaking of being here in the suffragette city. We do have an election coming up this Tuesday,

August 13th, and it'll be my guest's first time voting. So we look forward to seeing them there.

And more on that when we talk about acting locally and thinking globally coming up. And our guests

in this first hour, continuing a new tradition of our tour of saying goodbye to graduates from our

high schools, especially Waukeshaw. Last week we had Hector Karanza and Tyler Williams. And this

week we have a couple of their teammates that go back a long way. My I'm proud to say my son,

Evan Stout, who's on his way to University of Wisconsin, O'Clair for football. And oh yeah,

he's going to do some homework. He's going to go to some classes there too. He's majoring,

going to major in secondary education. And then one of his closest friends, football teammates

since 5th grade, baseball teammates since 7th grade, Logan Tankdable, who's on his way to Concordia,

University, Wisconsin, the Falcons, where he's not only going to play football, but I understand

baseball is an option for you as well. That was kind of part of the little deal you have there. So

welcome guys. And in our second hour, I have the honor of having Richard Kaplaner on. Many of you

have heard of his name. He was a medical director for the Milwaukee Brewers for many years.

About five or six years ago, it was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer and won that battle,

a very tough battle as many of you know, and has become a real champion for

creating awareness for how you can prevent how you can be proactive about preventing

and treating pancreatic cancer. So looking and raised a lot of money along the way too.

So really looking forward to meeting him here in person in the second hour. And we're going to

get two farmers market reports that believe Johnny's over there. And I'm going to, if I'll go as

well, I'll be going there to give Johnny some relief. And so any of you there, you can catch me

there. And especially if you've got great ideas for the show, we love hearing from different

people. There's so much story here in Watch Us, so much going on that I think the community

deserves to know. And from so many wonderful people, we are proud to call our friends and neighbors.

So, but again, these first guests, this is a real honor for me. One I've known, one's my son,

of course, we go back a very long way. And then Logan Dable, who's been so one of Evan's closest

friends since fifth grade. And it's really been an honor watching these two grow and turn into

the fine young gentlemen and scholar athletes that they are. How you doing this morning, guys?

Great. Doing great. Good good. So, and yeah, and it's been a great opportunity for me to catch up

with Evan. He's been so busy with work and working out. And his girlfriend spending a lot of time

together before he heads off on Tuesday. And Logan, I'm sure it's the same thing for your parents too.

So, you've been pretty busy with your special friend as well. So terrific. So, how does it feel like

if you're going to go back to your fifth grade selves and think of maybe like what your dreams

or what your expectations, how do you feel right now in terms of where you're at in your lives?

You must be pretty excited, I would imagine. Yeah, really, I wouldn't think I would be here

as a fifth grade like me going on the football field for the first time. Like, everybody's dream is

to go to the NFL or whatever, go get drafted. But I feel like there's a point in your life where

that's maybe not possible anymore. So, like, just working your way up to like wherever you want to be,

like if it's D1, D3 or whatever it is, I think that really doesn't give a label on who you are as an

athlete. But like, any collegiate level is like outstanding to go to because not everybody gets to

do it. So, I'm just so excited I get to continue a childhood dream of mine. Sure. How about you, Evan?

Yeah, I'd say just looking back at it, my dream was always to play college football just to keep

playing and everything. I was always a three sport athlete, so I was just like kind of trying to

make it at any sport I could. And then football just happened to be the one that was the best at.

So, it was just like it's a dream come true always. Sure. Well, that's one thing I've learned too

is just the fact that you guys get to play at a higher level and you get to continue doing what you

love and have also learned. And again, it may not be in your dream scope now, but there are D3

players that have done well in the NFL and there are some D3 players, even from here in Wisconsin

that have continued playing in Europe and getting to do what they love in another part of the world.

And so, I could imagine that also being opportunities for you guys as you move forward in your

careers. So, one of my guess a few weeks back was Carol's new defensive coordinator,

Geron Holly, a longtime member of coach Buddhist staff who he cut his coaching teeth coaching

in Europe. And that's where he met his wife and said a great experience and was instrumental

in organizing a spring football in Europe for Carol a couple of years ago. And so,

I'd say there's a lot more opportunities than people think in collegiate athletics, no matter

what level you're at. But Logan, you also are a three sport athlete and as a tribute to you for

any of you on the live stream, I'm wearing a t-shirt from one of the cheerleading fathers. It's

parody of the AC DC instead of back in black. It's back in black shirts. And Logan was part of a

state championship cheer team this past winner and congrats. I mean, how does that feel being

to being able to tell people you're a state champion? Yeah, it's just a real August or no October.

I wasn't even on the team yet and there was a boys practice in. I was like, I'm only going to do it

if one of my friends. So my friend Ben, he came with me because our girlfriends forced us to go.

They say they didn't force us, but they did. And then from that moment on, we'd never heard

the end of it from the coaches and the cheer team was like, come back, come back. So we finally gave

in. It was a deal that if I went, Ben would go. So we just stuck with it and we caught on right

away. The coaches were so surprised by how much we grew and we were doing some of the hardest

difficulty stunts. And then from that moment on, me and Ben were like, we're winning a state

championship. That's it. We didn't come here not to win. So it was just, it was honestly one of the

most fun, fun moments I've ever had. And then just the competitions are so fun. The little dance

circles at the end watching everybody because I'm not a dancer, but finally gave in at the state

competition. We, I finally started dancing because, you know, we had a good video of that.

There I'm sure it's out there. My mom. And then it helped you bring a state championship back

to your school. Yeah. It was when we heard our names called. We were, it was just like, there it

goes. That's one of my favorite high school moments of all time. Sure. Well, and as, you know,

the, the other side of that coin, if you guys been longtime of the lecture football program,

there weren't a lot of moments like that because of where South and North were in the class of

gate playing in one of the toughest conferences in the country. And yet, even though at the bottom,

a lot of young men from that team from your class are going on to some really good football programs

and continuing their careers as student athletes. And so there's, there's a lot of pride that comes

from that. And the fact that you guys stuck it out through so many years with really only one

winning season, the championship season, when you're in eighth grade. So it's, you know,

what was it that kept you going, knowing that going to the season that the reality was,

you guys weren't going to have a winning, you know, season. Like what it was that inspired you

guys to continue. It was just like always, we loved our teammates. That was always the number one

thing is that we were such a close group because a lot of us came up from fifth grade and sixth grade

together. And all of us just played all four years of high school. So it was always just the next

year was doing it for your teammates. It was no other, there's no other kind of option from there

just because we played in the class gate. So it was always just like, we're going to go out there

and play for our teammates. And it kind of just showed that playing the class gate was hard and

tough. But a lot of our teammates got out to play college football. And there's a lot of players that

have got out to play college football just from being in that conference just because of the

competition we played. Okay. So I feel like that did prepare us for this, but that was just kind

of the driving was being there for your teammates. Yeah, to piggyback off that it. At the

point, the wins are good. But then it also doesn't really matter about the wins as much because

like Evan said, our brotherhood on that team, that senior class especially grew up with each other

for many years. And it was just like fighting for them. And like just fighting, just keep going

for your family. And then like, you had to throw like all your ego out the window and just play

for your brothers and just keep pushing because football's fun, win or loss. It's just fun to play

and be out there with your brothers. Sure. And you guys, great teammates also

achieved individually. Juniors, you're both recognized as honorable mention. All classic eight,

which in a lot of conferences, what it meant first team. And Logan yourself, you're a repeat,

all classic eight as a senior. So that had to be a great feeling. And both you still have,

you both, you had great junior and senior years, you know, number wise. Yeah. It was those are,

my junior season was my most fun season. That's for sure. Just like the senior class above us,

we were really close with that group. And that was just like such a fun season to have.

I'll say Logan deserved every single bit of what he got just because he played every single

staff. There's games where he may have gotten out for one play. And being like an old I'm a

deal, I'm in a very heavy Wisconsin like these guys are going division one. So I'll say Logan

deserved every single bit of that. Yeah. This year was an honor because I was recognized for offensive

linemen this year. And last year I was recognized for defensive linemen. So it was good to have

like recognition of I did play both, both positions. And I feel like Evan was kind of robbed this

year, but that's just, you know, it is what it is. But I think he's definitely an all conference

player in my eyes. Well, that means a lot. And low, I remember younger, you would play, you

would play skill positions like running back and, and I understand, Concordia, they're going to

give you a shot at tight end. Is that correct? Yeah, I was on the phone with coach Rip and he said

tight ends open and great. And he just said that a lot of positions are open. I feel like I can play

a lot of different positions and grow at different ones. So whatever one's going to give me on the

field faster is what I'll go for. So if that's tight end, if that's fullback, if that's the end

outside linebacker, I'm willing to do it terrific. The conversation continues with two sons of

oxasouth on their way to play in college football in just a few days. And don't forget the last

tribute Tuesday is this Tuesday, August 13th. And it's at Frame Park, not at Cutler where there's

going to be some construction going on. And get your eighties or get your odds on as the band Y2K

will be playing playing the greatest hits from the first decade of the new millennium. And also,

we'll be acting locally thinking globally on the other side of this great community information.

We're going to share with you here on this week and watch Shaw and 540 AM W-A-K.

Here listening to this week and walk a show with your host down brown and the mighty max on the

board. And of course, you're also listening to W-A-K's favorite son Les Paul with wife Mary Ford.

And the world is waiting for the sunrise. But we're not waiting. It's been going on beautifully

this morning. Another great day for the farmer's market. We'll be getting those reports in the second

hour. And right now we're acting locally thinking globally. And this came from the firefighters,

our firefighters, has announced this week on social media that on Tuesday, August 6th at 743 PM,

when how many false firefighters are spotted to the unthinkable, a fire in the home of one of

their own firefighters, firefighter, paramedic, Stanley Mindiola. While false firefighters were

able to quickly extinguish the fire, extensive damage in the home has turned the lives of himself,

his wife, and three children upside down. We're asking on behalf of the workshop fire firefighters

for your assistance in supporting the Mindiola family, please consider donating to help him and his

family. And you can reach out to workshop firefighters and the firefighters union for more

information on the act. And special thank you to the professional firefighters of Wisconsin

charitable foundation, Inc, for their assistance and support. And that's the other group you can

call to the professional firefighters of Wisconsin charitable foundations. So and earlier this week,

when I was out walking our dog, Popsicle, I ran into a gentleman named Scott Wexham who was getting

ready to play pickleball in a banding park as though it's still one of the premier pickleball

pickleball venues of perhaps in the whole region. And Scott was carrying a defibrillator with him.

And I was saying, well, gosh, we have one of those right there in the shed at, you know,

on the other side of the park and Scott's like, well, that's where I got it from. And

Scott does some work or he's a facilitator with our parks and rec. And I was telling them how I

used to be in the city council. And how important those are in that. I'm still I've been lax in my

duty. I want to follow up with Joe Hoffman, our assistant fire chief about organizing a teaching day

at the park, maybe doing a busy pickleball time to teach people how to use it. And Scott applauded

that idea because he informed me that those defibrillators saved three lives of pickleball players

in the last five years right there in banding park, I believe, or maybe throughout where pickleball

is being played, but still that makes a difference of defibrillators are devices that apply an electric

charge or current to the heart to restore normal heartbeat. If the heart rhythm stops due to

cardiac arrest, also known as sudden cardiac arrest or SEA defibrillators may help us start beating

again and save lives. So thank you, Scott, for sharing that information. And then Tuesday is

election day, August 13th. And again, being in the home of the Adora Yeomans, we are the suffragette city.

And I know that Evan and Logan will be voting for the first time. I've made a plan. I was there

yesterday, early voting and ran into their teammate, Oliver Shimaleski, who's already he he,

he got he rocked the vote yesterday. So thanks to congrats to Oliver. And the big the biggest,

you know, there's a state assembly for some people. There's, I believe it's the 82nd or Scott

Allen is running on opposed in the Republican primary, but in the Democratic primary, you have

another classmate, Samuel Domingo of Logan and Evans. And he's running against Kevin

Riley of the Riley clan here in Waukeshaw. And so it'd be interesting to see the winner,

of course, will take on Scott Allen in the general election in November. And that is a

reconstructed district. So about 40% of that original district that was Scott Allen's has been changed.

So it's really very much one can argue it's up for grabs. So really, if you live in that district,

which takes up a lot of Waukeshaw gets to know these candidates and their issues and rock the vote.

And of course, the how should we say there's two referendums on what to vote on. I believe you

should vote on both. And here's why you know how frustrating it is to watch both parties fight over

the budget. They've been sitting on billions of dollars of our money for years, which should be

upsetting to all of us because they can't agree on how to spend it. Meanwhile, federal emergency

funds come in. The governor can send that money where it needs to go to help people and communities

in crisis. So you think about what's going on with those hurricanes that are tearing up Southeast,

the South American Southeast. Imagine that getting the support, being one of those families,

not getting the support because if you voted yes on the second question, the emergency funds

would be put in the hands of the legislature where you'd be waiting forever to get that relief

that you need or language forever. And so any yes vote on the first question means that when they

realize they screwed up, the legislator can't do anything about it. So again, this is our

our republic, small our republic or our small our democracy. And we deserve better. So vote

no on that. And you know, for those of you, especially the upcoming election, ask yourself if

you've ever called your legislator at any level. And then that's what impacts Powell. That's

what helps shape policy. And if you never have, it's like try it before you consider voting for a

king, which could potentially happen in November and having a different form of government where

a lot of your rights are stripped away. And so we'll look forward to seeing all of you there on

Tuesday, who did not early vote, but be sure to come out and make a difference and and spend

that, you know, what time you have to learn the candidates that you'll see out there. So, but

anyway, back with Logan Dable in Evan Stout, walk of South South graduates from the Black

shirt football program and baseball program. And then in the winter, Evan played basketball,

and Logan was on this state champion share team. So no matter where you go in life, no matter

what happens, you can always say, I was a state champion. I would like to add that's the five time

five championship. Thank you, Evan, five time dynasty in Black shirt nation. That is fantastic.

So so what's obviously a couple days left here in watch any any plans, any last second things

you want to do before you leave before you go? No, just just spend time with family, I guess.

Nothing like nothing crazy just chilling at home. You know, got my last day of work on Sunday until I

leave. Where do you work at again? Walmart. Walmart. That's right. I knew that. No, got my last

shift there and just, I don't know, just spending time here. It's not like I'm too far away. So

it's not like yeah, I'm not going to be like a gone forever. Like you'll be there in Mekwan. Yeah,

beautiful Mekwan. Just just chilling. That's good. How about you? Have just got yeah, just spending

time like we went to the state fair the other day. So that was fun. Yeah. Yeah, just spending time.

I know I'm going to hang out with my friends one last time coming up with Logan and all of our really

close friends before we leave. So that'll be fun. But yeah, just kind of making sure that I say my

like not goodbyes, but see you later. Bye for now, right? Yeah. It's my Canadian friends. Save it.

Hey, while we were at state fair, Evan and I and our family, we met a baby calf named

Tate of Brown Swiss breed from cozy nook farm here on some of the avenue in Waukeshaw.

And one of the operators, Joan Oberhaus, fulfilled a long time dream of bringing milkshakes to

this year's state fair. So I want to give a big shout out making a big impact for Waukeshaw

here at the state fair. That's always fun. So and that really was a fun time and always a great

tradition in our family. I know your mother always looks forward to it and so many others. And

speaking of traditions too, summer has gone by fast. Make sure your family takes advantage of

Buckner community pool and Horb Springs Aquatic Center. Last day for Horb is August 20th,

Tuesday, August 20th. Last day for Buckner is Sunday, August 25th. So we have more to talk

about with Evan Stout and Logan Dable looking back on some memories and growing up here in Waukeshaw

as well as a very exciting future at Eau Claire for Evan where he'll be a blue gold

and the Falcon Logan the Falcon of Concordia. As this week in Waukeshaw continues here in WAUK

540 AM and we're taking your calls on the civic media app and make sure you download it so you

can take this week in Waukeshaw anywhere you go.

My heart is calling for you the throttles, Sean I. His sleepy baby is calling him. My heart is calling you.

You hear this thing this week in Waukeshaw with your host Don Brown and the mighty max martinson on the

board and we hear that song in Wisconsin. It reminds us of football which is football seasons

right around the corner. I know the Packers have their first preseason game today if I'm correct and

I asked Evan for a good walkout song and he chose that one as we all know they play at the

beginning of fourth quarter of every badger home game and so a lot of excitement in the air is a

high school college and pro football comes back and do we have is do we have so much from the farmers

market? We do not okay no worries but I will be at the farmers market at the end of this show

helping David out there and again stop by the booth and say hi we've got treats for the dogs

treats for the kids and if you got a story to tell I want to hear it I'd love to have you on

the show we have such a great university city here so much going on and it gets in the next hour

we'll have the Carol minute and we want to hear from you it's people like you that make this city

great and I know every person's got a great story to tell has a rich history and we want to know it

and also you can hear a recording of this show and past shows on my podcast page so be sure to check

that out we've really had a great summer of great guests last week we had Mayor Sean Riley on

and Bob Mittknock talking about the Wauksha Blues Fest which night two second night final night

goes on tonight at Nagawaaki Park I was hoping to make it last night but so I think we might try to

make it tonight looking forward to that we had Stephanie Olson on local business owner who survived

not only survived a vicious sexual assault but helped worked with our counties district

attorneys or just to bring that that offender to justice facing a 50-year sentence and it was

we're really and she's also become a real advocate for other people that have been victimized

by things like that so that was a really great show and she came to me and told me that a lot of

people since that interview have approached her or called her and was really really grateful to

her for sharing her story we had Kathleen Cummings talking about her vindication after 30 months

facing criminal charges of election fraud and we're really grateful for her for sharing that

story and a lot of great writers too we've had Pat O'Donnell who has got a

in addition to his books he has a cops cops and writers podcast series which is fun we had

Kristen Wheatley talking about her dystopian book themes and I need to connect with her

real soon and then some other authors which I'll get to later and so like I said it's been a

terrific show and or we're also glad that we've had some sons of Waukesha which today include

Logan Dable and Evan Stout and my first question comes from Evan's mother what are the boys most

looking forward to in college? I'd say the basic answers football but yeah football it's just like

I know like going into college I know if I wasn't playing football I'd be kind of not I wouldn't say

loss but I've kind of be looking for something just because I've always been playing sports all year

around so I've been I would be looking for something to do but yeah football is what I'm most

excited for I can't wait for camp it's going to be a fun time meeting new people and just trying

to compete for a spot this year yeah it's the same thing football like Evan said you'd be

lost without it really didn't want to know where like where to start with like friendships or

whatever but hopefully that a couple first weeks there you build friendships and then when you go

to your classes you see familiar faces and then you can just go off of them and then

bond with other people from there but I think just yeah the new experience is what I'm looking

forward to it's going to be scary at times and new and not know what to do maybe just like call

your parents be like I'm lost but I think that's all part of living life and taking those first steps

into like what call it adulthood or being on your own so just looking forward to all the new experiences

sure epic yeah and I think with football there won't be much time for shenanigans right

oh fantastic so in now turning it back like we were looking to what has been some of your favorite

memories growing up in wakasha since you guys go back you know the way to fifth grade

uh growing up in wakasha is probably just um the friendships I've made uh I'd say uh just from

fifth grade I went to a different school and elementary school I went to a Milwaukee school that my

mom was a print vice principal at so I didn't know that many people going into sixth grade I only

knew Logan going in the middle school and that's how I got into just do a lot of my friends so Logan

was kind of my first friend here in wakasha um but yeah and then those have grown from there so that's

kind of probably my made a lot of fun memories with them especially on my birthdays those have been fun

just overall just yeah oh yeah probably like the friends here too like just even like elementary

school I'm still friends with like a lot of those guys even hector he was a friend of mine in

elementary school yeah he left us for a little bit but then came back fifth grade year so

um just all the sports memories are always great sophomore year hail marie to win jamesville parker

one of my first time I played varsity football never video good at doing good burger yeah never

forget that moment I might have let my guy go and get get tack a little banged up but he's all

good through the touchdown pass but uh I don't know it's just it's just great being in wakasha

it's less nice town I don't know it's just great every memory's awesome what was your like favorite sports

memory Logan um probably winning state this year that was pretty great cheerleading yeah what a rash

yeah but that was that was fun what about yours Evan uh it probably wasn't even football now I think

it would like this past basketball season was probably my favorite season ever just for like sports

wise it was just so fun to play with the juniors it was probably the beating north in the playoffs uh

that was an amazing game yeah that was just like a fun game we like that we packed the stands and

everything like that that game didn't feel like a first round playoff game it felt like uh

when we champion played muck and yet yeah yeah not yeah just like when we played muck in the playoffs

like my sophomore year like it felt like that like just going deep in the playoffs in the first round

oh that's right yeah so in that game you had was it 20 21 points yeah it's 21 and then

but like they as to Walt had like 24 right he had five three pointers in the first half

and then probably the play of the game the second half as north was cutting a large lead into like a

2.3 point lead and yeah they had uh it was tied it was tied and they had a fast break it would have

been um what I put them up to then Charlie Morose had this probably the greatest block I've seen

just got up there and it was that forwards name again for north um I think he's playing college

oh yeah I think he's playing to just out somewhere yeah but yeah and then I got the rebound

beautiful block I thought for sure it was a foul when you look at it oh my god yeah Charlie

can just jump out of the room that's for sure he's like a 5-11 goalie so that makes sense for him

he's going to oh Claire and I share but I think he can go above and beyond so sure uh but yeah he'll

show that and I know just got the rebound you got the rebound yeah you took it kind of coast to

moe you did like a behind the back dribble to get past Cooper has then you dished it to zez who

then dished at the show we passed in the corner uh who drained a 3 and the south student section was

behind him so the view of like the whole like bleachers erupting after that shot was this very

cool it was basically a 4-point play like turn around yeah and I'd say just like this winter season

me and Logan have kind of conversation about us probably just like our most like fun time for sports

just because we got so close just like with the people around us so winter are seen in your

spot like one of the most fun times in my life for sure that's terrific so on who would you say

I mean you've had a lot of role models as coaches who would you say were among your favorites um

could you let that guy in real quick we'll have Evan go first um that's Richard um so there he is

so I think me and Logan agree that we have one um oh wait for a

I'll see there he comes oh wait for him to come back a little bit of the studio our guests in the

second hour so true I think I'll say like me and Logan's I'd say number one would be coach Nick

that's our bet like my best friend my roommates uh father he coached us all the way from fifth grade um

he was a huge role model there's also Logan's dad Jared Dable who's a huge role model um who've

always been there um I'd say another one uh for me it was going into my sophomore year's name

was coach McLean uh now with cat a cat at one more y'all Kevin McLean uh he just was an

amazing guy uh from day one just was like the life of everything and just like an older guy you

always thought that he was just like crazy the first couple days everybody was like who is this guy

going into our sophomore year but yet I've grown if I've had a I have a friendship and a relationship

with him just like for the wrong longest time he just like another father figure in my life so

I'm still very close with him even though he's a cat for you yeah even though he's a cat at one

way yeah uh yeah yeah some of my role models out like Nick he's just a great guy I've

ever fifth grade stuck with us didn't leave us at all in high school even though I'm sure he wanted

to last year but he's like I'm doing it for you guys I was like that right there is just bigger than

the sport of football and bigger than just being a coach uh he is truly uh just a great person

even uh his weight room where you we used it this week because we couldn't get in the south

because they got their cam starting up and Nick was uh yeah well he I'll leave the door open

to you guys and his house is always open if we need him Benny's birthday sleepovers making pancake

for us in the morning it was just always great and then I guess my dad you can throw him in there

I'm not giving him a shout out but and then uh coach RIP uh he was at south with us from my

sophomore in junior year and then got the opportunity to go coach at Concordia uh the Falcons and he

went there so he got that opportunity to go coach to be a Titans coach there and he's kind of the

reason why I'm going to Concordia uh he was pushing me to go because he saw something in me that

maybe some other uh colleges didn't and he was really really wanting me to go there and even when

he was at south go lift there at five in the morning six in the morning if it was a Monday or if

it was a Saturday or if it was a holiday he would always be there for you trying to get you better

lift with you and the energy that he brought was unmatchable it was just what's coach RIP's full name

again Ripotella uh Jake Ripotella yeah he was just like just bouncing off Logan he was a guy that

lived a little bit farther away he kind of lived towards Concordia a little bit more which that's

around a 40 minute drive and me and Logan were two of the guys that lifted in the morning and it

was just kind of like four people that did and Ripot make that 40 minute drive every morning to open

up the way for us at 6am yeah and he would be there all day because he helped with the youth so

and he needed to get his lift in too so after the youth kids he would lift a little bit and then

go drive 40 minutes barely getting sleep just what he did that people really didn't like see

it was just I love that guy so much so I can't wait to call him coach again really missed him

this last year but I'll be with him next year so coach Rip he's a great guy that's exciting and

that so it seems like you have a very smooth transition because one of your high school coaches is

who you'll be part of that your new team so and I for Evan Stout I think it's also very similar

because I know that we was at the defensive coordinator who recruited you was the but the

brother of your baby sister's fourth grade teacher is that right that was a little fun

that was funny that we made that connection but yeah when he was returned yeah so perfect now what

you know like so we'll kind of keep this in the family while we're early not but we are your

sisters now entering ninth grade it's like she'll be a black shirt and she's going in the

engineering academy and she's like yourself a three sport athlete what advice have you been giving

her about preparing for high school um it's new it's fun uh just like always put yourself out there

that's always just like she's in the three sports so that's what it is like that's a good thing

as it is just anybody going into high school I feel like you should get into a sport a club

anything like that just because just like helps you branch out and like you're in something that

other people share interest with so that was just always my big advice was just like branch out

meet new people that was always the fun part uh you realize during your senior year that actually

like you get to know everybody I'd say I'd say I talked to a lot of people I never really talked to

before my other three years so that's kind of my advice is just branch out to meet as many people

sounds good we will have um some some final comments and wishes a farewell from Evan Stout and

Logan Dable and we look forward to having a Richard Kaplan around in our second hour um that many

of you know from the Milwaukee Brewers and his amazing story and so much more here and this we can

watch on this beautiful Saturday morning August 10th on wak 540 am and we're taking your questions

of the stoic media app

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You're listening to this week of akasha and that of course is father and son

by usif islam we've known for years as cat Stevens and

Always one of the tugs at the heartstrings for me especially in this moment where my son Evan stout

One of our two guests

Well an in Logan table both real sons of akasha as they prepare for the next journey very exciting one

where they

Not only academically, of course, but also doing what they love playing football

The blue golds of old Claire for Evan stout and the falcons of concordia real quick correction Roger capplingers my guest

I was calling him Richard my apologies

deserves better than that one of the real great heroes in the

The fight against cancer. He's my guest in the second hour, but

So yeah, that's father and son, but yeah, one advice I have for you guys for you leave is be super good to your mothers who've done so much

And make sure you get some quality time in with them and I

Am reminded by a quote of a Abraham Lincoln. My mother used to always share with me and it's all that we are and hope to be

We owe to our mothers of course. I'm paraphrasing there. He said oh, I am, but um, I think that's that's so true

Especially knowing uh your mother is well-manned uh Logan and of course knowing Evan's mother very well my my beautiful wife Melissa that uh

Yeah, definitely spent some quality time in these next couple days and um

And I know you always keep them in your hearts when you're there on the road. So um

What is it you'd like to um, and I know we have a little more time here in this final this final lag of the first hour

What is he'd like to share with people of akasha?

um

You before you leave like any like any type of you know

remarks of gratitude or

um

Yeah, I would just say

For like high schoolers like those four years probably are like the fastest four years of your life

Um, like just thinking about it like feels like yesterday. I was like walking in the halls for the first time or

Just it was just so fast and I wish you could just live it longer, but you can't uh

I just say take granted for every opportunity that you get to spend time with friends or with your family because

You never know when it will be your last or when you have to go on to your next adventure and I know

I'll see him all the time and I'm not that too far away, but it still will be different uh and just

Go go beyond what you think you can do uh because like taking on new opportunities and new challenges like me for cheer

It was if I didn't do that

Uh, I don't know I wouldn't be be able to call myself a state champ

But you never know where new journeys will lead you to so I just

branch out and go do new things

Terrific. How about you have um

I'd say just always uh

Remember who you are uh at heart you know who you are and just always want to like Logan said branch out uh

I'd say always be kind everybody. That's just one thing to me especially going in uh college

I want to meet a lot of new people a lot of new goers in high school should take that advice um

You'll never know who you're going to meet and

It's just always be kind everybody always uh

Have an open mindset with everything that you do. That's just the number one thing always

Terrific

Thanks for sharing uh four minutes right max

So Joey I want to say real quick to my guest next week is pat nattashaim another walk shot south grad

Waxani uh south afwaxaniate of who was um

One of the founders of guitars for vets

Wonderful philanthropy that provides free

Guitar lessons for um for our veterans especially those that are dealing with PTSD and other

Issues related to their service and he's starting a new

philanthropy that um opens up

That mission to um to uh anybody that's been dealing with any type of uh mental health issues

And so we're looking forward to hearing more about that plus a concert he's organizing in park and uh

August 24th and

Pat also has some great hidden treasures from uh great music here in wakashah

He's got a lot of the cutting room floor recordings from bands like the bowdeens and uh another walk shot musicians

That he's going to share on this show so we're really looking forward to that. That's going to be a lot of fun

And then on the 17th one of my guests will be Katie green from healing hearts. She'll be appearing

Um, these are the first or second week. I'm sorry nattana at the fun

But she'll be first or second week in October

Katie green will be here to promote a fundraiser they're doing

Uh in later in October and it's a bowling event at sunset ball so it's too bad you guys aren't going to be here

Because I know you guys had a lot of fun there over the years

So um

So I imagine you know

Football will be a year-round commitment even like some Logan you'll be able to play baseball and spring

You feel you're ready for all of that

Yeah, I think I'm ready. I think

You go there and you'll be like a little

Like a little scared, but I feel like I'm ready like a lot of these past years have taught me and

And I feel like prepped prepared me for whatever comes ahead of me and I'm willing to face those challenges head on and

And yeah, I'm ready for it. Yeah, I'd say I'm pretty right. I think that I'm ready for it um

Just because of the me and Logan were both three sport athletes. We both lifted in the morning at six

So some days were being at school from six a.m. to

730 just like with basketball practice and the winter and everything like that and baseball in the spring. So I feel like just like

With that just like conditioning your mindset to always be going

Sure, I think

That's fantastic. So

Guys, I certainly want to wish you the best and I know Evan. I'll see you before you go and

Logan I I hope to maybe see your day. I do think the uh the football team will do this year in their new

Conference real quick in the parkland. I hope they do great. I hope they do great things in the new conference and show that

Maybe it wasn't that maybe the classic eight wasn't for them, but uh

Uh, it was hoping to get out to a practice

Check them out before I head out. So maybe I'll try to do that, but uh, I think they'll be pretty decent. They got very good

They got a good senior class some some good guys and their sophomore classes getting bigger better and stronger

So I think they'll do good things sounds good. How about you, Evan? Yeah

I believe that it'll there'll be some growing pains with it um

But everybody's going to grow into it and I feel like eventually walk to south will end up being higher in that conference um

And they'll kind of show who they can really be sounds great. Evan style Logan Dable on their way to oh Claire and kind

Cordia respectively

For football and collegiate academics. Thank you again for joining us

Roger Kaplaner is my guest in the next hour here on this week and watch on wuk

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It's still time for this week in wakasha hour two

I'm your host downtown downi brown. I'm joined by the mighty max martinson on the board

And we're coming to you live and local from the office of former alderman downpull brown here in the wuk studios in downtown

Right around the corner from the adora yalman's park where we are proud to honor our suffrage ad heritage here in the shot

Of course, even prouder to recognize that because we've got a big election coming up

But first we've got a call and I think it's our first call from the farmers market is as that Johnny

Good morning, Don. How are you great, Johnny? How are you?

I'm doing fabulous. I just wanted to give you a quick check in down here at the beautiful

farmers market in downtown wakasha. We have everything here this morning

carrots rhubarb cabbage

Oh, I mean everything is just so fresh and it's in we've got great vendors here this morning Don right next to the wakasha

State bank the corn is in we've got bread bakery guys pot pies. We have another

Gen sweet mix. I mean, it's just all over the place. We're having such a beautiful morning down here right next to the fox forever in beautiful downtown

Wakasha sounds great. Hey, Johnny. Thanks for checking in Johnny

We look forward to seeing you in the second half of this hour and getting another update on the

farmers market, which looks like a perfect day to be there so but

My guess in this second hour we're proud we're honored to have on

Is mr. Roger Kaplinger who many of you are familiar with that name because of his his time as medical director of the Milwaukee brewers and

Rogers here to share his story about his battle with with cancer

Which we're obviously overjoyed to say he had won

But also the the work he continues to do is advocacy and and the help with raising funds and awareness and how are you today Roger?

I'm great. Thanks for having me on

Terrific. We can hear him. Okay, Max. All right. Sounds good

Well, I guess where where would you like to start?

Yeah, I mean, um, you know, we

There's a medical director for the brewers for a long time head athletic trainer

Been with the brewers for 33 years and you know, just like everyone else

I think seemingly life goes on every day go to work, you know, do your thing and then you know

You don't feel right yet. Something's going on

Um, you know, in our business in the brewers and the medical staff. We we have a motto that every day counts

You know, we play 162 games in 181 days and and you know having the availability to play every day

Is paramount in our in our game and so um, you know personally

I didn't I didn't feel good for a few days talk to my personal physician dr. Mark need felt and how long ago is that again?

That was in um

Fall of 17, okay, yeah, and so

Um, you know, we ran some tests and and those tests

No, we're like and then you're liver function tester a little high and

Let's wait a few days and it still wasn't right. We did some more testing and we decided to get some some diagnostic imaging

And that showed a tumor on the head of my pancreas. Wow

Yeah, and

Can I ask I could what what stage do they determine that tumor was that? Yeah, that was stage one

So um, I feel very fortunate that you know, there's a lot of pancreas cancer patients or um that get diagnosed later

And that's something that

You know myself and and the Cinemagoids foundation in which which that we partnered with them and the medical college of Wisconsin to try to

Develop, you know, research testing and techniques to identify pancreas cancer earlier. So we have um

a host of

New treatment options and research that we can try to

So combat the disease

Sureific. It's so how long was your journey? Shall we say from the moment you were diagnosed to

Yeah, so um, it was roughly like 11 months

You know, we started with a regiment um and and

To to reel it back the history of it is, you know, we we had some options. We researched

I tried to separate myself from the medical field to the patient, which is really difficult to do. Yes. I know very difficult

And so um, you know, we researched

Several institutions around the country

um, you know cedar sign i and l a and mayo and in in Minnesota and

Sloan Kettering in New York MD Anderson in Houston and and the medical college of Wisconsin here

And so we feel very fortunate that

Well, one of the best in the centers of excellence in the country for pancreatic cancers right here in our backyard

Wow, and it's really um, you know, trying to promote that as well

Dr. Doug Evans

A surgical oncologist in the in the medical oncologist and radiation oncologist and the entire team over there at the LeBon pancreatic cancer center

um, just top notch second and none in the world

Wow, so we you know, we we chose dr. Evans and his team and and um

Basically started with a chemotherapy and radiation regimen for six weeks and then take a break

And then have the wipple procedure surgical procedure and then take a break and then have you know, six months of chemotherapy

Wow

And then so after 11 months yep the tumor had been eliminated. Is that right? Yeah, so the the

The goal of chemotherapy and radiation off the get-go is to try to shrink that tumor

Um and and the metastases like I was very fortunate didn't have any metastases anywhere in any other organs

and so um

And then you have the wipple procedure which is a which is an eight-hour surgery to take the head of your pancreas

You're common bile duct your gallbladder your duodenum and then just kind of reroute that plumbing

um

And I mean the pancreas is is obviously insulin dependent um and

obviously helps aid and digestion so um

You know those are those are challenges. I think every pancreatic cancer patient has

Going forward for the rest of their life

And but you know with the very fortunate that that the

The surgical intervention took care of of the um of the tumor

Wow

That's now is it safe to say that um

Because of your career in your work and athletic training and in supporting medicine

That you are more proactive about

Your kind of condition and being able to spot it at stage one

Yeah, I think so I mean going back to the point we made earlier is you know every day counts and and you know

If if a

Major league player with the brewers um has an issue. We're not going to say we know we'll check it next week

Like we're not doing that. We're checking it today

Right we want to make sure that we can we can do that

You know we'd rather be proactive than reactive

Yeah, so it's not like the old days where guys were hiding injuries. They so they could keep playing they

I mean they're tried to get out in front of it

Yeah, there's a lot of the game has changed a little bit

You know we want to make sure that

You know we put the best 26 guys in the field every night and they're all available and to do the roles that in which the organization

Has selected them to do sure and so um you know

It's imperative that that the medical staff in conjunction with our strength staff and our psychological team and our performance science team

All have that same goal is is to try to put the best 26 guys out there every night

Wow

So what advice would you have for them the average layperson like myself

About and especially it's mostly it's predominant in men correct

Yeah, predominantly in men and so what advice would you have for being proactive about so

Looking for signals for pancreatic cancer. Yeah, I think you know, there's some there's some precursors to pancreatic cancer

You know, there's obviously smoking having a fatty liver which in conjunction with alcohol consumption

Being overweight

Um, those are all some precursors obviously genetic coding

Um, I don't have I don't have the gene that that turns it on um

But you know, there are family history is a huge

Piece of this sure, and so you know, we have great genetic counselors and geneticists over at the medical college of Wisconsin

That can help people with that, you know, there's several of of people that I've met through pancreatic cancer

Awareness pancan

Some other some other entities that you know, they they've had grandparents or parents had died of pancreatic cancer

And and they get genetically tested and then every six or 12 months they get a CAT scan and they see where they're at

Um, but I I think the first and foremost gone. I think you you really have to listen to your own body

You know, it's right. You know, it's wrong. You know, when you don't feel good. You know when you're feeling optimal level

um, and so some people

Decide to to

Push that by the wayside and continue, you know

Doing their normal life and sometimes that's too late

Yeah, and I've just heard so many stories of uh and family members and close friends where

They they weren't going to the doctor regularly or they kept pushing it off

And and I've heard so many stories where uh a doctor a family friend would show up at a funeral and instead gacha

You know, I it told her to get his his direct me like five years ago. I told him to and it's as such um

So many missed opportunities. Yeah, and you know, I think that's that's the part of

Teaming up with the scene of maggots foundation and creating awareness

Did you say that again real quick the name of the foundation? Yeah, it's called the scene of maggots foundation

Yeah, so Roger maggots uh gentlemen mother passed away in the early 2000 started this foundation out of Phoenix um wow

and

The scene of maggots foundation teams up with the medical college of Wisconsin also on our health and teaching and Phoenix as a collaborative effort for research and and patient care

And then dr. Daniel Vaughnhoff

Considered to be the the medical godfather of pancreatic cancer research wow

You know talk, you know him and Doug Evans are very close colleagues and okay trying to combat this this disease and trying to come up with

New clinical trials in a bit of research therapies to get

research

From the patient excuse me from the research table in the lab to the patient's bedside as quickly as possible

Wow, and so yeah, so we you know the scene of maggots foundation has

You know, we have support groups online for newly diagnosed people people that are six years out like myself

Okay, um for caregivers show them that's a huge component of this and so

Um trying to help direct

People to the correct institutions that can get their questions answered

That can provide hope and inspiration for other patients like myself that have been through the process sure sure

So I look at you Roger you look like a very healthy guy

And I'm assuming we're in the same age group so you know especially for your age

Were you as healthy?

Seven years ago when you're first diagnosed with pancreatic cancer?

Yeah, I I can honestly say I'm probably in better shape

Physically and mentally

After pancreatic cancer than I was before I mean I lost 50 pounds right off the get-go

You know, it was it was working 15 16 hours a day

um and

Just kind of plugging along

You know baseball has a calendar sure sure, you know and so um

Yeah, I probably way healthier now than I am than I was prior to that's great a cancer

The conversation continues with Roger Kaplaner

Milwaukee Brewers

Cancer survivor and his uh his amazing story of of courage and faith and for all that he's doing to promote awareness and and raise

Dollars for pancreatic cancer

Research here in this week in watch plus we have the Carol men coming up here and w a k 540 a.m

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Um offered to the community you can sign up through the Carol university website and I highly encourage everybody. I believe

Um, I believe that good mental health is a right in that everyone it should be more accessible

Uh, because we can all benefit from good mental health

No matter where we are at and so and and speaking of um

Health

Roger cabling or is my guest here and it's just shared his experiences with

Overcoming pancreatic cancer, which you know many of us know that not very many people

Win that battle. I mean, is it is a growing percentage of survivors. Would you say Roger? Yeah, absolutely

I think that when I was diagnosed in 17 the the survival rate nationally was 9%

Uh, nationally now it's 13

Uh, which which is inching up up sure

Um, you know, we just had a an event here, you know, sure. We'll talk about that. Great. Uh, this week this past weekend

Our last weekend and so um, you know the survival rate here

Um, at the medical college of Wisconsin in our program

uh, you know all comers coming into the program

Survival rate of five years. That's 30% which is almost tripled in national average

So, um, you know, making great strides in research making great strides in getting that research to the patient bedside is quickly as possible

um, and trying to um

Allow for

education

Awareness, I think that's where it starts and then um

Trying to get early diagnosis is sure sure

You know, I'd ask you earlier about um

You know what your health was like, uh, or you know, because you're obviously very healthy and fit now and if you were the same

You said you've gotten better now, but you didn't really have with and it might sound like a silly question

Because you're in an athletic trainer and you take health seriously, but you didn't really have any vices or any

Kind of conditions or preconditions when you were you had a pretty healthy lifestyle. Yeah, nothing you were still nothing to say of um

You know, I think that uh

You know

We all we all have some some times where you know, we over indulge in certain things sweets or

Sure, whatever. I mean, it's it's you know, as an athletic trainer in the major leagues

It's you know, you're a lot of eating on the run

You're eating with in the in the clubhouse, which is sure has has really healthy food, but you know, it's never a

You never have a constant schedule, right? You know, it's either you know, having a game at seven pm and then turning it around and having another game at

noon the next day

Yeah, it's a grueling schedule

You know, we all chose that that line of work

But you know

It's not a nine to five job and you have a routine and you have a good sleep pattern and in your circadian clock is on all the time

It's it's just not like that. So um, you know fluctuations in weight

Have a deterrent to to pancreatic cancer, but I feel like good lord has blessed me with pancreatic cancer and we've overcome it as a team

both personally and professionally

The brewers have been unbelievably gracious and mr. Antanasio and our executive leadership team

Wow have given me the platform to do this, which is awesome and so um

Are you still with the brewers? Yeah, I'm a consultant with the brewers. Yep

So I I mentor athletic trainers mentor our medical staff help them navigate stuff

um, you know being in a position

For the last 33 years of being an athletic trainer and then moving upstairs into a more senior leadership role

You know, there are a lot of things that come on your plate that you don't really real remember that you have actually did

Yeah, so my colleagues will call me out time is like hey, this wasn't in your exit document

How how should we handle this particular issue? Yeah, so um available to do that all the time with those guys and um

You know do some other stuff around the ballpark. You know, we have

Four entities that we mainly focus on is Milwaukee, Arizona

Uh, we own the Carolina mud cats are a ball team nice and then uh, we just built a beautiful facility in the Dominican Republic. Wow

Fantastic who last night had heard yesterday we learned in France of their first gold medal winner

Yeah, first medal winner. I believe in that nation. Yeah, she's in grads there. That was awesome

Sure, they really it has been if you enjoyed it. I'm sure you've enjoyed the Olympics as an athletic trainer

Yeah, I think you know, it's it's amazing how much work and you know obviously being around professional athletes my whole adult life

I think

People don't understand the work that goes into to to to getting to the game and then now for the Olympics. It's

It's getting to a couple of races to qualify and then the final like that that is a extremely difficult task sure

And yet we see these young men and women from our own country and from around the world living up to it

Yeah, I saw a 16-year-old running in a one leg of the of the of the relays last night and he sure you know

It's it was probably a great learning experience for the young head

But he he understood that there there are men out there that are just

Head and shoulders above physically

Running in those races. Yeah, you know, we kind of saw the ying in the yang last night with um the women's relay

And in spite of their little difficulty and the final handoff of the baton they they cleared gold and in fact

The last runner even looked over to see it or to see where she was at which you're not supposed to do

I remember for my days in track, but that really was something and unfortunately for the men

There were some difficulty and technique that just qualified them and the handing off of the baton

And and so you kind of saw the the up and down from um that that at that level that

Inches and every no just nth degree perfection is

An expectation or just yeah, you that's a way of life. Yeah, I think everyone watching the Olympics is

You know, how can they mess up a handoff, right? You know, you have a adrenaline. Yes other factors that you're you're competing against the world watching you

Right and you're looking at other lanes and seeing where people are at and and you know, it's human nature

We can't be perfect all the time. Yeah, that's very much true. How are you doing at time here Max?

But a minute and a half real quick. What

What dietary advice would you have for you as a way of that they could prevent the panchartic cancer that you know of yeah

I don't I don't think there's a

A certain diet you can do to prevent it

I do think that there's you know high protein

Carbs less fat. I think that goes for everybody

Hydration is extremely important as well

But you know, I also think that annual checkups. I think we put that by the wayside

I mean those are wellness checks. Yeah, those those are the report that you have with your physician

Sure that you need to

To inform that person of what you're doing what what you feel your family history all that stuff great

The conversation continues with Roger Kaplaner and his successful battle over cancer and what he's doing to help save others

Other may face pancreatic cancer here and this week workshop plus Johnny's back with the second leg of the farmer's market report

Here at W.K. 540 a.m.

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She's the wildest she's the desperate and divided years

We will remember hey since we can lock a shot

Marrow's down brown and that's a midnight oil forgotten years and uh more on that in a moment

But first Johnny's back with the

Second portion of his farmer's market report take it away Johnny

You're going morning, don brown. How are you this morning? I am great. Good to hear your voice my good friend

Hey, I just wanted to give you a quick check in here man. I'll tell you what the produce here is fabulous

You've got everything each carrots green beans tomatoes cucumbers. I mean you name it. This is all just super fresh

What a fabulous farmer's market. We got cute up here today and the leadership at civic media has done this great

Wheel that you spend to win kind of thing. There's a little kid in there right now

Spin in the wheel. I just gave away a $40 ticket gift certificate for the Delafield brew house nice

A lot of great things you can win here

T-shirts people's park it's gift certificate sells pizza just to name it famous

So please stop on down and say hi to myself and David right next to the walk shot state park on the beautiful fox forever and walk a shot

This is such a great event. You can see all these wonderful vendors with all their fresh produce and if you're in the doghouse a little bit

There's flowers galore. I mean, it's just a fabulous morning here back to you Don

Hey, thanks so much Johnny Johnny watermelon or as I actually call John Cougar what watermelon

Helping us helping David out there at the farmer's market and I should be joining them after my show and given Johnny a little break here and in catching up with

Any of you out there and if you have a story to tell come see me at the booth. We'd love to hear more about it

So many great stories here in the city and in the county and like the story. I'm helping share today with

Roger Kaplinger and his his amazing story and

So wherever we left off, and I know we are talking about

About diet

And then what about exercise would that have any I mean obviously it would seem obvious, but yeah, I think I think

Everybody needs some healthy exercise whether walking biking working out weight training

All essentials to keeping yourself in good healthy condition

Based upon your physician's recommendations and and how you can go about that to

To properly dose exercise for for yourself

Sure, I think and so

Again, you you credit a lot of your success with the fact that you know because you work in this space

That you you you you file the proper protocols and we're able to

Get a stage one diagnosis, which essentially saved your life is that fair to say. Yeah, I definitely think you know not ignoring symptoms

Getting things tested sure. Obviously, there's there's some test anxiety, right? Yeah, you're anxious to go into into tubes and and MRIs and other things

But there's also that anxiety afterwards of not knowing results and and finding out results

That may not be favorable, right? Yeah, and so those are things

You know, psychologists and mental health experts can help you navigate

We certainly have those in our program and so sure you know, and I wanted to ask because you mentioned that the failure rates are still very high

Although this here at and

Here Milwaukee though

We we have a 30% we're three times the national average

Yeah of

The people that you know that I guess you'd say that 90% nationally

What percentage of those are people that have been diagnosis stage three or four?

I would say the vast majority of those people are so and then conversely of that

Nine 10% success rate that you are part of

What percentage of those people were captured at stage one or two their diagnosis? Yeah, I think the majority of those people are

I mean, there there is hope for the stage three two three fours

You know

There's two types of pancreas tumors

Deena carcinoma and

Neuendrican

Neuendrican are very rare okay very hard to to treat sure mine adenocarcinoma

Okay, majority of people have those okay, and you know, there are several agents that you can use

You know radiation therapy targeted radiation

There's a whole host of

chemotherapy agents that we can use now now we have things of immunotherapy that we can use

um

And so and then you know some people are are

Are able to have a surgical intervention and there are some people that are not able to have surgical interventions here. So

Those those are people that you know try to

And their physicians and their team guide them with chemotherapy or immunotherapy agents

Okay, thanks. Hey, I want to take a quick pause from this very important discussion with the Roger Kaplan or

pancreatic cancer survivor and an advocate

That and thanks James Santel my my resident council here in the office of former alderman down Paul Brown

It's just stepped in preparing for his upcoming show

Amicus a lot of viewers. I effectively call Atticus because he embodies that spirit of Atticus Finch

Jim's reminded me that and I talked about this in the first hour with the election

We have coming up Tuesday. There's two very important referendums and uh

I strongly recommend you vote no on both and and why because we know how frustrating it is when both parties fight over the budget and here in this state

They've been sitting on billions of dollars of our money for years because they can't agree on how to spend it

Money that could go towards our roads our schools our police are gonna our health as as Roger would attest to

and

Meanwhile federal emergency funds come in the governor can send that money where it needs to go

And you think of all those people out in the southeast if this second referendum passes

That would go to the legislature and think about the delay for those families that desperately need emergency aid

In where that that hurricane has gone through in the southeast and so that's why you should vote no in the second and in the first it means um

You know it means that the legislature screwed up and they can't do anything about it. It takes um it takes a lot of that out of

Really the hands of us in terms of decision-making and where our funds should go so please vote no in both so and um

You know back here's Roger right how helpful would you say it our government state and federal have been in terms of or even the local level in terms of supporting

Uh cancer research and better health. Yeah, I think I think they've done a decent job

I mean there's a lot of federal funding for NIH and R01 grants um in in the US um but

Obviously that's not enough um and that's why we've teamed up with the scene of maggots foundation

Uh, we had an event this past weekend here in Milwaukee

uh had over 90

Surviving pancreatic paint cancer patients. We had 320

uh guests and and people on the field having dinner. We had the Milwaukee art museum as a meet and greet on friday last friday night

So there's a lot of

of

A lot of good things happening in the pancreatic cancer world with research

But though obviously those need funding and and we're

Trying to uh in teaming up with the maggots foundation as well as the medical college of Wisconsin

Sure trying to raise funds for the pancreatic cancer program to

Obviously, we're going in the right direction. Right um, you know what the what the triple the survival rate. Okay

Here here in Milwaukee

So we feel like um the needle is moving moving upward

And so we need to continue to to raise funds to to fund our research

So let's say someone's listening right now rager and they want to make a contribution

Is there a way a website they can go to where they can just go ahead and click a button and put in their um their details and yeah

So you can go to the scene of maggots foundation in how do you spell cina s e e n a s

S is in sam e is an eddy is an edd and is an nc a maggots ma g o w i t z foundation

Dot org. Okay. Cina maggots foundation dot org. Yeah, so if you know if there's a lot

I mean we met some people here from Miami last weekend nice they they went

Google pancreatic cancer and one of the sites that came up was a scene of maggots foundation

And so it that's great. Yeah, it's working. Yeah, it's great and you know

The

That's the good thing about the internet. Yes. Yes, and the conversely of the internet is

You see low survival rates when you first get diagnosed and you need a quarterback and you need a plan

And they just came to Milwaukee and it was like we need help

And um, you know, we pointed them in the right direction

Dr. Doug Evans who who was all of our heroes in pancreatic cancer

It was like I'll see you on Tuesday morning

Uh, and they stayed over they had now with plan and now they have a quarterback

Um, they can be able to do some some treatment back home in Miami

Um, and then continue to collaborate with Dr. Evans here

And so those are the those are the connecting points that that the maggots foundation

Has done for pancreatic cancer patients

Along with the support groups along with you know our event here in Milwaukee

The totals aren't in yet, but you know a hundred percent of the proceeds are going to the medical college of Wisconsin and the in the bond pancreatic cancer program

Wow, that's uh, that's amazing. It's it's great to hear of such progress again something that

Again has been a losing battle for so many Americans especially you know primarily men correct

Yeah, so are there any other upcoming events like third party fundraisers or anything that

We can promote for yeah, so um, you know, we're teaming up with um a local uh place in phoenix

Bobbos Italian eatery. Um, they're

Their father passed away at pancreatic cancer

So they have a one day of giving um and and can

Love baseball. He was a baseball collector. They own of eight restaurants in the in the phoenix Scottsdale area

And so it's a it's called baseball for babos. Um, they're

We're teaming up with them. You know since I'm in baseball. We have you know some sure some

Friends of ours that can help that to to sign autographs

To to auction off baseballs or other baseball memorabilia

So it's fun. Um, last year they raised a hundred and eighty thousand bucks on one day

Which is great and that that directly went

Went to pancreatic cancer research. That's great. Sure to fix. So

Well, I know uh, we have planning we still have some time here

But yeah, we definitely have to plan you have to have you come on uh earlier next year to promote your upcoming

Because this was essentially a gala the one we had last Friday. Yeah, so we uh, we

teamed up with Doug Evans in the medical college

So he had like six six of the the leading experts in pancreatic cancer and had a little mini mini symposium on Friday nice

and then

The we had a reception at the Milwaukee Art Museum

And then Saturday we had some roundtable discussions with patients in positions. So it's like a whole weekend

Yeah, and then Saturday night we had dinner on the diamond

Uh, which we ate eight dinner on the field and they have a field wow on a fm

Mr. Antonasio and our executive leadership were very gracious uh

letting us have the field to have this great event and um, you know, we had silent auction items. We had live auction items

Sure

And hopefully raised a lot of money for that and then Sunday we had um

A farewell breakfast for all the

The pancreatic cancer survivors and their caregivers and so it was it was a great fun filled packed weekend of a lot of inspiration

A lot of hope a lot of connections. We made with each other

Uh, you know, we're usually looking at people on zoom and now we can actually meet them in person

Uh, which was great. Sure. That's terrific. Three minutes max. Okay. So I think it's neat because usually, you know

And the lot goes into planning a gala

But it's a one eight event

And maybe there isn't as much time for the more serious discussions and you followed it up with like uh

sort of a conference type of um

concept

As well as even more um kind of hospitality and some some commemorations and uh

Very thoughtful. I think it's a great way to really build that community of support

Yeah, I think uh, you know, we we've been planning this for over a year and and trying we had one here last year as well

The year before we had in phoenix

But the maggots foundation and then medical college and and the brewers have been very good of collaborating with each other

We wanted to make it

Not just hey, we all put in on our a game outfits sure sure and we all know it's raising money

Yeah, but we also want to promote awareness

We also want to promote inspiration and hope to patients that are continuing to go through. Yes. Yes. Yes. They're not done yet

Right, so um in my remarks that I had

You know, I I want more people like me, right? Yeah, I want I want to I want to treat this somewhat as if we can get to that point

As just a chronic disease like plasma or something else like we want to get to that that point

Sure, that's really

Hey, and so you all know that this um you can catch a recording of this show if I tell us about it on my podcast page and um

I thought of that because um my podcast paid there's in a previous show back in July

We had Bob Habish call in on the 25th anniversary of the the terrible tragedy during the building of those in Miller park

They killed three iron workers and uh

There was really some revealing um information about that that Bob shared and and obviously

Some of the good things that came about it with safer working conditions um for stadiums and big projects around the country

And uh it was real honored to have Bob calling in and

So you can catch this interview you can recap it on the podcast paid. I'll be sure to share that with you Roger and um

When we uh this conversation continues including um what we can do maybe locally to be better at

The kids in um

Diagnosing pancreatic cancer sooner what we can do to continue to to prove our health

Again, I'm looking at a very healthy man who was a very healthy man seven years ago when he was diagnosed with it

And so very just hard to believe um and I heard that so many times in the whole kind of cancer culture that I grew up in just very healthy people that

You know um anyway, we'll uh we'll be back here in wak 540 a.m

With Roger cabling around this week in wak shah

Hey, we're back this week in wak shah

And that's my good friend Todd runger and utopia with one world one of my favorite songs that I first heard in high school

One of the advantages of having older brothers and sisters and being exposed to so much great music

Um, I was talking to Roger cablinger my guest pancreatic cancer survivor

longtime medical director and it's a senior consultant currently with a Milwaukee brewers

And um you don't travel with the team anymore

But uh you do have the option of going if uh and only ask because the successor having this year under new manager pet murphy and

Also with their success be an opportunity

To capitalize on to promote your journey and what you're doing with the scene of maggots uh foundation and medical college of Wisconsin and

All the other players on this growing team to um to promote pancreatic cancer awareness. Uh is it

I'm sure the brewers would be all over that. I think in terms of promoting that

um in conjunction with the brewers that they see postseason play and all the like

Yeah, I think you know mr. Antonassio and our executive leadership team have been extremely um

gracious

In in allowing me to have this platform

um

You know, it's it's really important to me that and my family that we continue to promote this continue to educate our community

um

You know, we have we have the ability as an organization um, you know, we're a family at the brewers

It's just not something that we put on a piece of paper

We we actually we actually do that we all care about each other and um we have an extremely powerful workforce with the Milwaukee brewers

And you know, we've done a few interviews with local tv stations at the ballpark

The brewers have been extremely helpful and and getting the word out

telling our story

Telling the story of pancreatic cancer awareness

Promoting the medical college of Wisconsin and and in conjunction with the scene of maggots foundation is the partnership here

sure sure

Well, because again, I I look at a

The gentleman is very healthy looks much younger than me. I'm guessing you might have a few years on me

And I kind of wish this was being televised so people could see you that this could happen to anybody tragically

and that um

And in people should pay attention to your efforts and maybe learning and contributing

To as you said making this so much more treatable

disease

Yeah, and I think I think that um, you know

Diving into your own family history is very very important

We have great genetic counselors at the medical college of Wisconsin and and there are people that we talk to all the time on our support groups is

Oh, I didn't realize doing some ancestry really quick that you know my grandfather or

Or my uncle had pancreatic cancer and then oh my oh my gosh

There's another person in my family that had it and so those are things to get ahead of

Not just listening to your own body. That's important as well

But looking at family history is very very important and we know now

And where a lot smarter and technology is where it is today that we can actually pick out some of these um

genetic deficiencies and then how do we put you on a watch list and continue to monitor you for this

That's how you get ahead sure is there an in age range that this become that

That because yeah, I think it's I think it's uh um

Not really identifier right now. There there are people that we've had on our scene of maggots foundation support groups

So then they're in their late thirties

And then there's some people that get it when they're in their nineties right like my father yeah correct and and so

Um, you know, I was 50 at the time and um

You know, I just don't think it has an age discrimination part of it

But I do think that um we can have

Factors that that can weigh in on on you know

Certain aspects of your health and certain aspects of your family history that can help us do that

Sure and and I think you know some of the the outcome studies are skewed a little bit right um because maybe in your father's case

That you're you're in your nineties

You just don't want to treat and you just want to so to let it ride you know those were the the cases that come into the percentages

Sure, and then there's cases like mine where it's i'm 50 and i'm going to treat it to the nth degree 30

So you know those are those are things that that we can try to to promote advocacy for

That's terrific. What in

We haven't talked about it too much but it sounds like you had in in addition to the brewers being your family

Also your immediate family and extended family had a tremendous amount of support