Bingo, Birria, and Bean Planting Adventures

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Bingo, Birria, and Bean Planting Adventures

Raised in the Woods · Sat Jul 11, 2026

Joel Clayfish (host)

This is Raised in the Woods, the show about bringing everything from the great outdoors and planting it at your fingertips.

My name's Joel Clayfish alongside co-host Ellie Lawton, the chef, and of course Sarah Marinas, who is our homesteader, Megan Salazar, regular panelists on the show as well.

Brad Heidel, the Wisconsin Waterfowl Association Executive Director is talking with us, but we are a first today.

We're outside of the hideaway recording live in a remote broadcast on beautiful Ocache Lake and Lake Country between Madison and Milwaukee.

Alexis Cron, one of the owners here at the hideaway.

Is this exciting for you?

Do you guys usually have radio shows going

Alexis Cron (interviewee)

on?

No, this is a first for us.

I'm so excited to be here.

Everyone's kind of like, what's going on out there?

It's very exciting.

Love the energy.

And it's a beautiful little night out here.

Thursday night.

Joel Clayfish (host)

I mean, this place is packed.

Do you usually get this kind of a turnout on a Thursday night?

Alexis Cron (interviewee)

Thursdays are big nights.

We've got bingo, 6.30.

We play

Joel Clayfish (host)

three rounds

Alexis Cron (interviewee)

inside.

We do wing night, which is exactly what you guys are here as well.

And then we do $5 Tito's mix.

as well, so it's always a good time out

Joel Clayfish (host)

here.

So a

Alexis Cron (interviewee)

lot of people happy tonight.

Joel Clayfish (host)

Yes, everyone's itching for the weekend.

We call it Thirsty Thursday.

We call it Tinos and Chicken Wings.

If you don't have something in there you like to get out for and it just makes me want to re...

tell everybody, Wisconsin, Illinois, Michigan, Iowa, Minnesota are great places to get out and visit those local establishments.

That's where the best food is, that's where the best camaraderie is, and that is where you get a real feeling of the Midwest, and that's why we're here, and that brings us to our homesteaders section, Sarah Marinas, what have you got for us this week?

Sarah Marinas (panelist)

We are going to piggyback off of last week and continue with our companion planting.

Joel Clayfish (host)

Oh, I like it.

Love that.

Sarah Marinas (panelist)

And a little nod to Hawaii.

My sister-in-law texted me this week and said that her dad has bean plants from Hawaii.

I wanted to know if Ethan wanted some because he's our gardener in the family.

OK.

So when we left,

My mom, brother, sister-in-law, and three of the boys were in the garden, and they were pulling weeds.

And they are going to plant the beans from Hawaii with our cucumbers.

And those

Joel Clayfish (host)

two plants

Sarah Marinas (panelist)

work really

Joel Clayfish (host)

well together.

And they like each other.

Sarah Marinas (panelist)

Yeah, because one is low on the ground and one grows up.

Joel Clayfish (host)

OK.

I think this is new to me, this companion planting.

How old is he then?

Ellie Lawton (co-host)

Complanting.

He's seven.

He's seven, and he's running the garden at home.

Joel Clayfish (host)

Well, that sounds like a great job for him.

His special

Ellie Lawton (co-host)

thing.

Joel Clayfish (host)

That's wonderful.

Do you guys want your homeschool, right?

Yes, no.

Sarah Marinas (panelist)

No, we're split

Joel Clayfish (host)

all over the place.

OK, you're all over the place.

Well, I think that's a great homesteader tip, which leads us right into our recipe of the week, Chef Lauren.

Ellie Lawton (co-host)

I wish it was about beans.

Joel Clayfish (host)

Well, can you add beans into the

Ellie Lawton (co-host)

recipe?

From Hawaii.

Actually you can okay, so you guys this is kind of exciting, but it's super super messy So this is like a either you're gonna eat it with a bib on or you're gonna eat at home because you're gonna be covered in food by the end So I don't know not

Sarah Marinas (panelist)

a first date

Ellie Lawton (co-host)

meal not a first date.

Yeah, not a not a fancy husband wife date night So the most popular things made in the US in the summertime is hot dogs

Barbecue ribs and corn on the cob.

Alexis Cron (interviewee)

Okay, so

Ellie Lawton (co-host)

corn on the cob is one of my favorites

and I love it grilled.

So I actually will blanch mine and then grill it.

Some people don't like to do that, but I do personally.

Joel Clayfish (host)

For those who don't know what blanching is.

So

Ellie Lawton (co-host)

I drop it in a pot of salt water for a little bit and then I finish it on the grill.

Megan.

Make sure that that pot's boiling too.

Yes.

It's not just a pot of water.

Well, I mean, yes.

Just saying.

Thank you, Megan.

That's actually a really good thing to say.

Clarification.

So then,

What I like to do is I do a shredded either wild game or you can do beef and I do like a birria taco like filling, okay?

Joel Clayfish (host)

So I'm gonna have

Ellie Lawton (co-host)

my grilled corn on the cob and I'm gonna put it on my plate and I'm gonna cover it with my birria taco meat so you can use goose, you can use beef, you can do chicken.

And then you're gonna top it with all your favorites.

So I do pico, cotea cheese,

Joel Clayfish (host)

fresh made

Ellie Lawton (co-host)

salsa from the garden.

I might go over to

Joel Clayfish (host)

Sarah and grab some.

Like a Mexican street

Ellie Lawton (co-host)

corn.

Yeah, but with birria meat on it.

It's

Joel Clayfish (host)

like a

Ellie Lawton (co-host)

fully loaded Mexican

Joel Clayfish (host)

street corn.

Yes, yes.

Okay.

Ellie Lawton (co-host)

Because, you know, all the festivals have street corn now and I'm like, you know, that's great and all, but I want some protein to it.

So throw that meat on there.

It is so delicious, you guys, and so easy.

And if you don't mind being messy, go for it.

You

Joel Clayfish (host)

can

Ellie Lawton (co-host)

also cut the corn off the cob if you don't want to eat it like you're feral.

Joel Clayfish (host)

I think, could you literally take that and heat up some taco shells on the side of it and make tacos out of it?

Oh yeah, then the recipe's tacos.

Sorry I blew up.

Ellie Lawton (co-host)

If

Joel Clayfish (host)

you want to

Ellie Lawton (co-host)

do it Joel's way, you can cut the corn off the cob, put it in a taco shell, and then we just made birria tacos with grilled corn, which is lovely.

Joel Clayfish (host)

Ooh, you could put a little right wing sauce and sour cream.

I certainly could.

You could

Ellie Lawton (co-host)

make your first dollar.

And I want to throw a teaser out there for next week.

Megan Salazar.

We're making some special things for her birthday and last night we were FaceTiming and she calls me and all it is is a picture or it's the FaceTime, the phone is facing a pig face on her kitchen table.

Like

Joel Clayfish (host)

a literal pig face?

Yes.

The whole head of a

Ellie Lawton (co-host)

pig.

I picked one

Joel Clayfish (host)

up from her.

That sounds about

Ellie Lawton (co-host)

like Megan.

I picked a pig face up for her a while back.

Who

Sarah Marinas (panelist)

says that?

Ellie Lawton (co-host)

We do.

We do.

You were

Megan Salazar (panelist)

asking for one about a month

Ellie Lawton (co-host)

ago.

Yeah, she found one for me.

And let me

Megan Salazar (panelist)

tell you, this is a super cheap protein if you need some

Ellie Lawton (co-host)

proteins.

It is, and we're going to get into writing for it.

Megan

Megan Salazar (panelist)

weighed like 10 pounds, and it was $7.

Yes, it was so incredible.

Probably

Sarah Marinas (panelist)

supply and demand.

Joel Clayfish (host)

But it kept looking at her.

It kept looking at her.

There you have it.

Stick around.

back next week because we're gonna learn about pig face cooking from Chef Lawton and Megan Salazar and next week on the show I'm very excited to talk to Alexis Cron about supper clubs.

Bars and restaurants.

What are the most common things they serve?

What do they serve the most of?

What drinks do they serve the most of?

What's different in the summer and the winter?

That's going to be on next week.

That's a lot of pressure.

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And we're going to have other recipes for you.

And of course, another homesteader tip of the week.

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What's up, everybody?

This is Raised in the Woods.

My name is Joel Clayfish.

This show is about everything in the great outdoors of the great state of Wisconsin, Michigan, Minnesota, Illinois, and Iowa.

have really jumped out of the box today and we are doing jumped out of the boat.

We jumped out of the boat right here in Ocache, Wisconsin.

If you haven't heard of Ocache, Wisconsin, it's in Lake country about halfway between Milwaukee and Madison and the hideaway bar in Grill, a famous little joint on Ocache.

There are stories that there are old slot machines buried in this lake, old bodies buried in this lake.

Supposedly the mafia

had its control of this lake back in the 20s and 30s.

And we, for the first time, have taken this show on the road into the field.

If you hear ambient noise, it's because it's a beautiful day in the Midwest.

And folks are out here enjoying themselves on the lake.

Chef Ellie Lawton, the co-host of this show.

Glad you could be here today.

What a bonus, getting a little sun out here while we record the show.

Chef Ellie Lawton (co-host)

Yeah, I mean, I just came for the tan.

So, oh, and the food too.

The food here is phenomenal.

Thanks.

You guys know me.

Anything I can do outside that involves the sunshine, I'm in.

Joel Clayfish (host)

Yeah, that's a fact for sure.

We've got our homesteader, Sarah Marinas, with us today.

Sarah, I'm just going to go out there and say this.

What's going on?

You're not in your pajamas.

Sarah Marinas (homesteader)

I know.

Well, I considered this a date because I brought my husband.

Joel Clayfish (host)

So I

Sarah Marinas (homesteader)

did shower.

I straighten my hair.

I did put makeup on if I move my glasses.

Joel Clayfish (host)

There is

Sarah Marinas (homesteader)

mascara!

Joel Clayfish (host)

Wow, you really did it for us today.

We appreciate that very much.

I usually come in

Sarah Marinas (homesteader)

looking like a homeless woman, but very comfortable.

Joel Clayfish (host)

I think comfort is key to your style.

That's what I think.

I think comfort is just your style.

And

Sarah Marinas (homesteader)

I'm not trying to impress anybody.

My superpower is I don't care what you think of me by looking at me.

Joel Clayfish (host)

I have learned that throughout life, the less you try to impress people, the better off your life will actually be and the more joy.

you will have in your life.

And that's why I

Sarah Marinas (homesteader)

have joy.

Joel Clayfish (host)

Amen.

Speaking of joy, I love the outdoors.

And one of my favorite things to do, and we talk about it on the show quite a bit, is waterfowl hunting.

And we have got the executive director of the Wisconsin Waterfowl Association, Brad Heidel, with us.

Brad brought his lovely wife along.

We've

Chef Ellie Lawton (co-host)

got... I'm gonna say this is officially a date night.

Joel Clayfish (host)

I think this is officially a date night for Brad and his wife.

I think it's a date night for Sarah and her husband.

We've got outdoors, patio, beautiful view, excellent food, fantastic people.

How much better can it get than that, really, Brad?

Sarah Marinas (homesteader)

And there's food.

Joel Clayfish (host)

Yes, there's food.

And there's free food.

The best kind of

Sarah Marinas (homesteader)

food.

That's

Joel Clayfish (host)

my favorite.

We've got a debut of the right wing sauce here tonight, which is a full disclosure.

I do own part of this company.

Also, full disclosure, I have never made a dime on the right wing sauce.

But it is absolutely delicious.

And they're debuting it.

Your partners are here.

My partners here, Mickey Fotis here, Dave is here.

We're having a great time out on the deck at Ocache.

Thanks very much.

of the folks who have come out and showed up with us today, I have to.

I would be remiss if I did not mention Gary Fluet, our number one fan who is here with us on the patio at the hideaway and we appreciate everybody showing up.

It's pretty great.

Brad, you brought your lovely wife along.

Brad Heidel (guest, Executive Director of Wisconsin Waterfowl Association)

I did.

And the only thing that could make it better would be a couple of fat mallards out there swimming around

Joel Clayfish (host)

right now on the lake.

Well, I don't think we could have picked a better time to be here.

night bass tournament league and as we arrived and know of Morris here from Morris original he was setting up our showcase for our live broadcast here and the lake was covered in bass boats everybody's heading out we're gonna hope to catch some of those guys when they come back and throw them on the show which is

always a bonus.

But Brad, what have you got going on?

And what's cooking right now?

I mean, I know right now you're getting prepped for the Sand Hill Crane Hunt legislation that's coming up in the legislature this session.

You guys have just not stopped with the education, with the efforts to make sure that that's something that's going to happen.

Brad Heidel (guest, Executive Director of Wisconsin Waterfowl Association)

No, you can't.

We came so close this spring.

As you know, we were one vote away from this

Joel Clayfish (host)

going to the

Brad Heidel (guest, Executive Director of Wisconsin Waterfowl Association)

governor's desk for a signature, one vote.

And so next session, we are going to be ready.

So we're not taking our foot off the gas.

We've got help from you.

We've got help from our volunteers as well.

But what we want to do is we want to get out in front of people, and we do not want to lose the momentum we had to get this hunt done here in the state of Wisconsin.

Joel Clayfish (host)

You know what I love about the Wisconsin Waterfowl Association?

It is, by all stretches, you know, compared to Ducks Unlimited and Delta Waterfowl, it's a smaller organization.

But really the reach and breadth of the things that WWA

does is incredible.

From introducing brand new hunters to habitat expansion, wetland preservation.

You know, Megan Salazar, who's here, who's our Somalia and contributor to the show, is a volunteer for the Waterfowl Association.

This is a group of people who really encompasses everything about the outdoors, helping people get into the outdoors who've never been in the outdoors, helping those who are experts at it get better at it, and encouraging those who are part of the outdoors to bring other people into the fold.

And that is so exciting.

And Megan, you put your heart and soul

into this too which is it's crazy and I can't believe the devotion from the people who do help out with the Wisconsin Waterfall Association is just heartfelt devotion because you guys are volunteers.

Megan Salazar (contributor, volunteer)

Oh yeah I don't think you can find any better volunteers than the ones that you do at WWA.

Joel Clayfish (host)

Yeah, and how exciting is it for you guys?

You know, most people right now, they're taking their foot off the gas because it's summertime.

But now is really the time to get prepared and get ready for waterfowl season and get ready for those learned hunts and the women's hunts and everything like that.

I know, Megan, you're crazy busy with that.

Megan Salazar (contributor, volunteer)

Oh, yeah.

And you know what?

It's not just about waterfowl season from September until November, December.

It's all year long.

You're shooting during the year.

you're doing conservation and habitat restoration during the year.

There's so many things outside of the hunting season that we have to look at as well.

Joel Clayfish (host)

Yes.

And I now I'm getting a little, I don't know if I should get nervous about this or excited, but James Cooper of Halligan Outdoors is just about becoming a frequent flyer to the show.

We're going to have to start calling him a contributor or a pro staff member, something he's used to.

He's pro staff for banded gear, which is partners with the follow life, which is our television show and James.

Oh, I'm wearing

Chef Ellie Lawton (co-host)

the newest banded shirt right now.

Yes,

Joel Clayfish (host)

I can see the

Chef Ellie Lawton (co-host)

newest ladies banded shirt.

Joel Clayfish (host)

Yeah, the news the new banded stuff is all the rest It's

Chef Ellie Lawton (co-host)

wonderful.

Joel Clayfish (host)

Yeah, I do love that I do love that retro look and Actually, that stuff blends in really in the in camouflage better than most stuff and James

You are part of the banded staff which is tied into the the foul life Which has to do you know what we talk about here?

I get to host Midwest host of the foul life You seem to are you stalking us or you just like being around?

SPEAKER_00

I don't know from the expo I work out the expo in the banded booth.

So that's where we met

Joel Clayfish (host)

where we met and now You seem to just kind of be showing up and I'm gonna take that as the fact that you are encroaching a little bit on Gary fluids fan

of the show, and we're gonna have to start making you a regular member of this cast, I'm afraid.

Or

Chef Ellie Lawton (co-host)

maybe he's keeping Megan seat warm when she can't make it.

Joel Clayfish (host)

Oh.

Oh, Megan has

Chef Ellie Lawton (co-host)

something to say about that.

Well,

Megan Salazar (contributor, volunteer)

first of all, yeah, I do, because I'm gonna start traveling among the Midwest again pretty

Joel Clayfish (host)

soon once I get this sling off.

I don't

Megan Salazar (contributor, volunteer)

know if I'll let you.

Joel Clayfish (host)

However, he

Megan Salazar (contributor, volunteer)

brought up the expo and I just wanted to say let everybody know that the Wisconsin Waterfall Expo is August 21st and 22nd at the Oshkosh Sunnyview Expo Center.

So get your tickets for the banquet, make sure that you get your tickets for the expo.

Come out, see all the vendors, see all the activities,

Joel Clayfish (host)

get involved.

Eat all the food, there is food there.

I'm very excited to say that Chef Lawton, Megan Salazar and Danielle Fairman

will be at the Expo as well.

Sarah Marinas, are you going to try to get up there and help us out?

I would

Sarah Marinas (homesteader)

love to come.

Joel Clayfish (host)

Oh, good.

Very good.

If I

Sarah Marinas (homesteader)

have enough time in advance, I can make it happen.

Joel Clayfish (host)

Last year, we cooked wild goose tacos for over 200 people.

And we did cooking segments in the outdoor main stage.

And it was packed for both days.

I expect the same will be this year.

We love teaching folks how to take game from the field

to the table, which is a phenomenal thing that we talk about on the show.

We'd love to see you at the Expo.

It was our first time outdoors.

They had the stages set outdoors, and we packed it both days.

Under a tent,

Chef Ellie Lawton (co-host)

so still

Joel Clayfish (host)

calm.

Even if it's raining, which it won't be, but in case.

Even if the weather is inclement, we will feed you.

Chef, do you have any idea what is going to be on the menu this year for the waterfowl?

Wouldn't you like to know?

I

Brad Heidel (guest, Executive Director of Wisconsin Waterfowl Association)

would like to know.

Joel Clayfish (host)

Nobody's going to know until we show up.

director of the WWA here.

Wait, do I

Chef Ellie Lawton (co-host)

have to give that information to Brad beforehand?

I feel like I have to.

Brad Heidel (guest, Executive Director of Wisconsin Waterfowl Association)

You have to give it to me.

It's probably a code with a city of Oshkosh that we need to know ahead of an advance.

Chef Ellie Lawton (co-host)

Yeah, you're

Joel Clayfish (host)

right.

How about a hint?

Can you give us a hint?

Do you have some ideas of possibilities?

It's going to have

Chef Ellie Lawton (co-host)

something to do with waterfall.

A goose

Brad Heidel (guest, Executive Director of Wisconsin Waterfowl Association)

or a

Chef Ellie Lawton (co-host)

duck?

SPEAKER_??

Yes.

Chef Ellie Lawton (co-host)

Duck duck goose.

How

Joel Clayfish (host)

about

Chef Ellie Lawton (co-host)

crane?

Well, that might upset some folks.

Joel Clayfish (host)

But

Chef Ellie Lawton (co-host)

I'm here for that.

You can legally

Joel Clayfish (host)

eat crane in Wisconsin.

You can.

You just can't hunt it yet.

Yes.

Right?

So we're going to try to cross that bridge.

So

Sarah Marinas (homesteader)

if you hit one with your car, you can pick it up.

No,

Joel Clayfish (host)

I don't think you can, Sarah.

But I love that.

But what do you mean you can't

Sarah Marinas (homesteader)

hunt it?

How would you find it dead?

Joel Clayfish (host)

Well, no, no, no, no.

in another state.

And then you can bring that meat here on those specific restrictions.

I was very confused.

Sarah Marinas (homesteader)

Like, how would you eat it if you can't hunt

Joel Clayfish (host)

it?

It would be

Sarah Marinas (homesteader)

an accident

Joel Clayfish (host)

then.

Marenis, I love the fact that you constantly bring up the things that could land us in jail.

And we get to talk about it with the folks

SPEAKER_00

who listen and make it very

Joel Clayfish (host)

clear that certain things are allowed, certain are not.

We need a Sarah disclaimer.

Yeah, we should have a Sarah disclaimer.

I do not represent everybody's knowledge.

A disclaimer.

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things in the outdoors.

Every show has a cooking segment that we bring you.

Chef Lawton talks about cooking and how to make it simple so that you do not have to be afraid.

And this is our first remote show.

We're at the Hideaway Bar and Grill on Okachi Lake.

They're debuting a chicken wing night tonight and we're having a great time here.

Come on down and join us if you like at the Hideaway.

Chef.

Can we get a little hint as to what today's recipe is going to be?

Chef Ellie Lawton (co-host)

Not right now.

I

Joel Clayfish (host)

mean, she doesn't know.

I mean, she's going to come up with it during the break.

Oh, I

Chef Ellie Lawton (co-host)

mean, I made a lot of good stuff this week.

I just haven't decided which route I want to go.

Joel Clayfish (host)

All right.

Well, very good.

I'm getting a

Chef Ellie Lawton (co-host)

little thrown off because I have a huge menu in front of my face.

And when I have that,

kind of material in front of my face.

My brain is just like, oh yeah, I could add that to that or do that with that.

It's just, it's all over.

Joel Clayfish (host)

It's like a candy store.

We've got our Wilds of the Week coming up.

We're going to shuffle in some different guests as they come in and out of the place tonight.

But thanks to Noah Morris from Morris Original for getting us set up on the patio at the Hideaway on Okachi Lake, because it's pretty fantastic.

I'm going to start my Wild of the Week, which was not all that wild, to be perfectly honest with you.

I ended up with a procedure that I'm not allowed to lift more than five pounds.

And I have to tell you, I cannot stress to you how difficult that is to go through life without being able to lift five pounds.

I'm not even supposed to drink a cup of coffee.

with my right hand.

I think I may have overdone it a little bit.

Do you just

Chef Ellie Lawton (co-host)

dip your face in like a bowl?

We'll get you a stainless steel straw.

Joel Clayfish (host)

I haven't started that yet, but I wouldn't be afraid to do that because food is my favorite dish.

We're going to hear those wilds of the week and our recipe the week more with Brad Heidel from the Wisconsin Waterfowl Association and James Cooper from Halligan Outdoors.

This is Raised in the Woods.

SPEAKER_??

you

Joel Clayfish

This is Raised in the Woods, your one-stop shop for everything in the great outdoors of the great states of Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, and Iowa.

Speaking of which, my name's Joel Clayfish.

Megan

How is that related to Iowa?

Joel Clayfish

I

Megan

was

Brad Heidel

asking the

Megan

same question.

There's

Joel Clayfish

a connection somewhere.

I'm getting to a connection.

We had a Raised in the Woods field trip to the best

place for heroes in the world.

But

Megan

that's Illinois,

Joel Clayfish

not Iowa.

Wouldn't

Megan

that be

Joel Clayfish

Greece if it's in the world?

Everybody slow down for just a minute.

I had just mentioned Illinois and Iowa, speaking of which, my previous sentence had the word Illinois in it, and not only is Illinois home to Uncle Nick's, the greatest hero in the world,

Which, Megan, I do believe you are now part of the Uncle Nick's club.

I think you said that was one of the best euros you've ever had in your life.

Megan

It was.

You're welcome for the idea.

Megan had this great idea.

She texted me around lunchtime the other day, I don't know, a few days ago, and she goes, hey, I want euros.

And I'm like, hey, I always want euros.

So it started to rain, and we were texting.

We were like, oh, this weather is so depressing.

And I looked at the forecast in Illinois, though it was nice.

It was sunny.

So we somehow talked Joel into driving us.

Well,

Joel Clayfish

you know, listen, I invited myself along.

So

Megan

that is true.

He did invite himself along, but he didn't know that we actually wanted a driver because it was at night.

It was going to we were coming back in the dark.

Megan and I wanted a driver to be quite

Joel Clayfish

honest.

I don't mind inviting myself along when there's going to be great food at the end of it.

But I want to talk for a minute about our friends in Illinois.

I don't think people

realize and Brad Heidel is here the executive director of the Wisconsin Waterfall Association James Cooper is here the guide of halogen outdoors which is the one and only frog gigging outfitter in the state of Wisconsin of Wisconsin but there is a great deal of

Unbelievable waterfowl hunting with our neighbors in the south.

Brad, do you work with the folks in Illinois when you guys are talking habitat and the folks in surrounding states?

Brad Heidel

Well, to be honest with you, no, we don't.

We actually just build a lot of ducks here in the state of Wisconsin.

And after we have our first opportunity at them, we're happy to share them with our friends

Joel Clayfish

in Illinois.

Well, I am perfectly okay with us having first crack at them in the Mississippi Flyway here.

And I want to...

I would love to encourage neighboring states to take a look at the programs that Wisconsin has, particularly with the Wisconsin Waterfall Association, because it's really unbelievable what this organization accomplishes year after year.

And one of the things that we're really excited about is the little Yellow River project up near Nassita, Wisconsin.

Tell me a little bit about that because

We have, in Wisconsin, we've got one of the most healthy, unbelievable sandhill crane populations here.

Of course, we'd love to have a hunting season, but we have other species coming through the marsh and through weird developing lands near Nassita, Wisconsin that actually have whooping cranes.

Brad Heidel

Yep, absolutely.

So, right around Nassita, Wisconsin is the Nassita National Wildlife Refuge, and it is the number one breeding area for our...

experimental sandhill or whooping crane population here in the state.

Wow.

And so what we are doing as an organization is we are restoring significant amount of habitat in that

watershed.

So basically last year we did completed phase one of last year and we restored roughly 650 acres of wetlands in that area.

Wow, that's incredible.

We filled over six and a half miles of ditches to accomplish that.

Unbelievable.

This year we filled over nine

miles of ditches in that area and we restored over 2400 acres of wetlands in that area which

Joel Clayfish

is going to be

Brad Heidel

beautiful breeding ground for not only waterfowl but sand hill cranes, whooping cranes, everything.

It's going back to its original state what it

Joel Clayfish

once

Brad Heidel

was before it was all ditched.

Joel Clayfish

I think

What bums me out is, I think a lot of people think of outdoor organizations, Safari Club, Game Preserve Association.

They think all those organizations are about as killing animals.

That's just not the case, is it?

Brad Heidel

No, not whatsoever.

You know, we spend maybe, if we're lucky, 60 days out of the year hunting waterfall.

And the rest of the year, we're doing nothing but loving them and contributing to their habitat and trying to build more areas for them to

grow and thrive and it's just awesome what sportsmen do.

You look at the North American model, right?

We're the envy of all countries around the world on how sportsmen are taking care of our wildlife here in the United States.

Megan

Well, I'm Brad to jump off of your point too.

While you're doing that, while we have our hunters out there doing that and these groups, they're not only improving for these animals and for healthy...

population so we can hunt, but for the folks that use the hiking paths and kayaking and fishing and the public, and the

Joel Clayfish

campsites,

Megan

everything.

I mean, it is without you all, without all of us, there's not a pretty sight on the other end of it.

Brad Heidel

Absolutely not.

And that's all due to sportsmen.

Megan

Yeah,

Joel Clayfish

absolutely.

There's no doubt about that.

And I think people absolutely underestimate the value and

At the end of the day, a lot of it also comes down to money.

And there's not a sportsman out there, a sportsman or a sportswoman who is not contributing to things like the Pittman Robertson Fund.

These things, you know, every bullet you buy, a portion of that money goes into preservation and conservation.

I promise, guys, we're going to get to our Wild of the Week coming up.

And we've got recipes and our homesteader tip of the week.

This is Raised in the Woods.

Raised in the woods gives you everything you need to get from the outdoors.

to your dinner table.

We're gonna get to that.

We've got our cooking segment, our homesteader segment.

We are experimenting live recording at the Hideaway on Ocache Lake in beautiful Lake Country, Wisconsin.

Southeast Wisconsin nestled right between Milwaukee and Madison on what is a glorious evening tonight.

We've got a rotating panel of experts, famous guests, and our top...

My name is Joel Clayfish.

I get to host this show alongside Ellie Lawton and Sarah Marinas.

It's

Sarah Marinas

good to be here.

Joel Clayfish

It's good to be here.

You're a little quiet tonight, Sarah.

Sarah Marinas

Well, I did have a lot to say before, but I was trying to text Tyler to get all my information

Ellie Lawton

straight.

Sarah, do you almost think it's because we don't get a chance to talk?

Right

Joel Clayfish

now?

You

Unknown

didn't take

Joel Clayfish

a breath, though.

Who said that?

Please, be my guest.

You know what?

I would like to turn the show over to you, ladies.

Oh, Ellie.

Have at it.

Don't

Sarah Marinas

threaten me with a good time.

Joel Clayfish

No kidding.

Sarah Marinas

Can I

Ellie Lawton

start

Sarah Marinas

with my wild of the week?

Ellie Lawton

Because it's

Sarah Marinas

really funny.

OK, we would love to hear it.

You didn't give away any more trips, right?

Ellie Lawton

Oh, jeez.

Sarah Marinas

Stop.

No.

Honestly.

I know, but my kids are going to have beautiful teeth.

You'll have to go back a few episodes.

So my second son, Peter, he participates in equine therapy.

And it's for people with special needs.

And today or this week we went as a family to support him.

So the first half when he's in doing actual therapy, we played outside and then we watch him in the arena.

So.

I'm getting ready to sit on a picnic table, and all of a sudden as I'm halfway down, I see what looks like a snake head.

I hate snakes.

Gary Fluitt (caller)

I

Sarah Marinas

screamed and shot up to the moon.

And my kids are just laughing at me, and then they're ready to get a snake.

We look down, it's a huge butterfly.

Like,

Joel Clayfish

five by five.

How do you mistake a butterfly for a snake?

I will post the

Sarah Marinas

picture on Facebook.

The corners of the butterfly look like little snake heads.

And it was moving.

What kind of butterfly is that?

Oh, I don't know.

When that flies?

Joel Clayfish

It sounds like it might have been a tiger swallow tail because they've got those...

little black things that look like eyes on them a little bit.

Oh no, that is definitely not all time.

That's a moth.

That's beautiful.

That is not a butterfly.

That's a moth.

It looks beautiful like a butterfly.

Well,

Sarah Marinas

I told everybody it was a butterfly.

Joel Clayfish

And just to let everybody know.

It's your story, Sarah.

Megan, you're familiar with Megan Salazar, our sommelier pirate, and her lover, Dave, who joins us on the show.

Well, today, I am excited to say that Sarah Marinas' lover

Tyler is here, and we're welcoming him.

Sarah said, don't give him a microphone.

I don't know what that's about.

Sarah Marinas

No, he would love it.

I would love

Joel Clayfish

it.

We'll mic him up.

And Brad Heidel is here with his lovely wife as well.

I need to add

Ellie Lawton

something special in.

We have Megan's lover, Dave's mom

Joel Clayfish

here.

Yes, we

Ellie Lawton

do.

Which is very exciting.

And we were just told that Megan's lover is actually on the way.

Joel Clayfish

Megan's lover is on the way he's racing from far corner.

So it's Megan's lover's mother?

Megan Salazar

Yes.

We

Joel Clayfish

call her Mrs. Sella.

We call

Megan Salazar

her my lover-in-law.

Oh!

Ellie Lawton

Kelly

Megan Salazar

made

Ellie Lawton

that up last time.

I did?

Yeah.

Heck, yeah.

Joel Clayfish

I don't remember.

Isn't that effing precious?

Ellie Lawton

Whoa, you can't say that on air.

She just said a

Joel Clayfish

list.

No one's getting ready to hit the button.

No one's going to hit the beep button.

For a moment, I want to say hi to our number one fan who responds to everything we do on Facebook, listens to every show.

And if you can't hear us live, you can listen to us where, Chef Lawton?

Ellie Lawton

Oh, I thought you were going to have Gary do it.

I don't

Joel Clayfish

know if Gary knows it,

Ellie Lawton

because Gary listens live.

Well, if you don't catch us on Saturday, you can tune in on Spotify anytime, go back, listen to the episodes, go back and listen to the one how Sarah traded braces for a Hawaii trip.

You can also listen to us on Apple, YouTube, and civicmedia.us search raised in the woods.

Joel Clayfish

Otherwise, hear us live Saturdays.

at 11 o'clock a.m.

on your Civic Media Station.

Gary Fluitt, you are here.

You've got an old school...

Wisconsin Waterfowl Association Expo t-shirt on from several years ago that the foul life made You got a triple J outfitters hat on I mean you really you really could teach some lessons to some folks about being fans of the show You are the number one fan of the show George Irmert.

I'm sorry Gary

Ellie Lawton

for the spot, but I don't think he's gonna win

Joel Clayfish

It is a happy birthday to George today though.

I did want to mention that Gary well

Welcome.

How's it going?

Gary Fluitt (caller)

I'm doing well.

First off, happy birthday, George.

Sorry to steal your spotlight.

These are a great bunch of folks, and I've learned a lot from them.

Being in the outdoors is life for me.

Hunting is life, gathering from the outdoors is life.

I've learned a lot from this show, and I actually do jot down the recipes.

Ellie Lawton

Oh, good.

Joel Clayfish

Awesome.

Ellie Lawton

Gary, I have a question.

Do you laugh a lot when you listen to the show?

Gary Fluitt (caller)

Or cry.

Ellie Lawton

Or roll your eyes.

It's between those three.

With a shake of the head.

Gary Fluitt (caller)

It's going to be a little bit of a laugh, a little bit of a cry.

I haven't really rolled the eyes too

Joel Clayfish

much.

Gary's got like a voice for radio.

I was just going

Ellie Lawton

to say, dang Gary, you got a good voice for radio.

I

Gary Fluitt (caller)

appreciate that.

Joel Clayfish

I noticed that when Gary's posts pop up on Facebook, Gary's always doing something in the outdoors.

He's got a cooking recipe he's got on his Facebook or he's got pictures of Goslings or baby ducklings out of his back window.

You really put your money where your mouth is, Gary.

Gary Fluitt (caller)

I try to.

If I can be out there scouting, per se, because during the offseason, that's what you should be doing as an outdoorsman is scouting.

Never give up on your scouting.

If you're not working your regular job or training a dog like I have been, get out there and scout.

I think that's fantastic advice.

What does

Sarah Marinas

scouting mean for somebody who didn't grow up in the hunting world?

If Ellie called me up and said, hey, you want to scout.

I would have no clue what we were doing.

I would show up

Brad Heidel

and

Sarah Marinas

not know what we were

Brad Heidel

doing.

Trust Ruthie.

Drifty, brave, reverent.

Sarah Marinas

Brings on

Joel Clayfish

time

Sarah Marinas

to some

Joel Clayfish

Boy Scouts.

Yes, Brad and I were clearly Boy Scouts.

It is not, there's a different kind of scouting.

Scouting is driving around, windshield times another word for it, driving around, finding the fields and finding the animals and seeing where they go to eat and to spend their day.

So

Sarah Marinas

following their pattern.

Following

Joel Clayfish

their patterns, learning their patterns, get to know the farmers who own the land, asking them permissions, making them great food from the outdoors, delivering it to them, asking if you can help out on their farm.

Because in Wisconsin, we've got phenomenal public lands.

I mean, Brad, you can

Brad Heidel

attest to it.

Joel Clayfish

we've got unbelievable public lands but in partnership with those public lands are all the private lands where the owners are kind enough literally blows my mind this happens to allow you to come on their property with firearms and hunt species throughout the state of wisconsin

from their private lands.

And those private and public partnerships and sharing really is the key to becoming a good hunter and being kind to other hunters who are getting into it or maybe don't know about it as much about it as you.

And I love the fact that our homesteader on the show is not really a seasoned hunter and is willing to get into hunting and learn more about it.

I

Sarah Marinas

grew up with it.

My dad and my brother do it, but I never bothered to ask.

And thinking about it, my husband, he hunts on.

an elderly woman's land.

and with a bunch of buddies, and she'll call them up all the time when something heavy needs to be moved or any manual labor.

Ellie Lawton

I was going to add into that too.

A lot of times, like scouting, you'll go meet farmers and, you know, ask for permission and get to know them over the years.

And these, they're literally relationships that you end

Gary Fluitt (caller)

up, these are like your friends and

Ellie Lawton

family.

I mean, they literally become your family sometimes because they are appreciative that you're coming there.

You know, you're, you're willing to learn about their, their history.

their farm, what they do there.

You're working together.

That's really what it comes down to.

It's really nice.

Gary Fluitt (caller)

Even talking with other hunters, building a friendship with them and becoming a steward of the outdoors, helping younger generations get into the sport the right way, teaching the right practice because there are some people, unfortunately, that don't do exactly the right way.

But that's why people like us need to be out there corrected.

Ellie Lawton

Yeah, great point, Gary.

Joel Clayfish

Yeah, that is a good point.

You know, I see.

so many people being critical of other hunters and the worst thing that people who are using the outdoors hunting or fishing or camping or hiking is being critical of the people who are doing it together.

We should all be working together.

We should have a common goal in mind and tearing people down whether it's through social media or through other means is not

helping to advance getting people more interested, and it's not giving a great, you know, it's giving ammunition to those who want to stop us from enjoying the rights that we have in this state.

I think that that's definitely something the Waterfell Association works on too, Brad.

Brad Heidel

Yeah, absolutely.

You know, it's a year-round process, like you said.

It's building those relationships, but it's also enjoying your fellow hunter.

and watching what they do, you don't need to knock them, like you said.

Do it in private, it's your own home, don't do it publicly, but just...

Embrace what everybody is doing because they may not look what you're doing either.

You know what mom always say if you don't anything nice to say Don't say anything advice

Ellie Lawton

timeless and with this kind of sport with most sports Nobody is an actual expert at anything.

We all have something to learn from each other You know Gary you said you you learn a lot from the show Well, we learn from you just coming out tonight and telling us your stories and how you feel about the outdoors And it's really what it's all about to be like-minded folks sitting down.

You know we

We have James Cooper here tonight.

We recently went gigging with him.

It developed a relationship with him.

Gary, you're wonderful.

Brad, I mean, all of us, we're all here because we have the same mission and it's really beautiful and that's honestly what life is about.

Joel Clayfish

What's your wild of the week?

Mine?

Ellie Lawton

Yeah.

Well, I was enjoying one of our county parks.

I went for a really nice long hike, and I laughed.

I took a picture, actually.

We'll post it on Facebook.

The deer in these county parks, I am telling you, it's almost become like a petting zoo because I had a deer.

She came out onto the trail.

She looked at me.

She put her head down and kept eating, and I'm like, well, I'm just going to keep walking.

And I kept getting closer.

She kept getting closer to me, and I'm like, well, one of us has to go a direction.

She kept walking towards me.

And finally, about six feet away, she just casually veered off into the woods.

And I stopped and took a picture of her.

It was beautiful.

It was just wonderful.

And you know, Joel, you mentioned earlier, we're not just out there shooting animals.

and doing that kind of stuff.

But we are truly on the off seasons appreciating Mother Nature and appreciating the land and enjoying all the beautiful things that the Midwest has to offer.

And to get out there and go for a nice, you know, casual hike and see a beautiful deer, it was just great.

Joel Clayfish

Yeah, that is awesome.

It

Ellie Lawton

was no sitting on a snake, but

Joel Clayfish

deer was pretty great.

I didn't sit on any snakes.

Megan Salazar, what's your wild of the week?

Megan Salazar

I've been spending my time outdoors potty training a puppy.

Joel Clayfish

Oh, well, that's every two hours.

Is that good or bad?

Is that enjoyable or not enjoyable?

I

Megan Salazar

mean, it's enjoyable when it's nice outside and not wintertime.

Yeah.

That's

Joel Clayfish

so bad.

I suppose that makes a big difference.

Megan Salazar

But I mean, I can't really go very far for my house right now anyways, because I have no means to with one arm.

So yeah, if the puppy can take me outside and we go for little walks and she's learning everything, then that makes me happy.

And it's so exciting to see their brain.

develop so quickly and

Ellie Lawton

what they pick

Megan Salazar

up.

We

Joel Clayfish

do

Ellie Lawton

such a good job with your dogs too.

Cheese those dogs are lucky.

Joel Clayfish

Yeah.

Ellie Lawton

Brad

Joel Clayfish

Heidel?

Yes.

Did you get out in the outdoors this week at all?

Brad Heidel

You know what?

I got a different wild of the week, and I'm going to kind of creep into the cooking segment a little bit.

Oh, yay.

Oh, that's all

Joel Clayfish

right.

We love when that happens.

Brad Heidel

Do not have a recipe, but my wife and I actually made dove tikka masala this

Joel Clayfish

week.

Oh.

Yum.

Brad Heidel

Yum.

Off the charts.

Oh.

I

Joel Clayfish

love when people take and make cultural foods out of wild game.

That

Brad Heidel

is one of

Joel Clayfish

my favorite things.

I love Asian foods with it.

Oh, gosh.

Yes.

Sarah Marinas

That was your New Year's resolution.

Do

Joel Clayfish

you remember that?

I do now.

Sarah, thank you very much.

Our homesteader, Sarah, she keeps us honest.

She asks us how we can stay out of jail and brings up those issues and the tough issues.

We're, I'm very excited because we've got our homesteader tip.

We're gonna say hello to the owners of the Hideaway Bar and Grill where we're recording live and we've got our recipe of the week on Raised in the Woods.

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