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What's up everybody this is raised in the woods my name is Joel Clayfish man I love the outdoors there is nothing better to me in the world than getting out into the waters and woods and the fields and the rocks and the Hills and the lakes and the rivers and making that
a day and turning that into food to put on my dinner table.
Hosting this show is fun as heck for me, along with my co-host, Ellie Lawton, who is the real deal when it comes to culinary.
She's got a culinary degree, a French culinary, and turning wild game into food is about as good as it gets.
But you're the real deal when it comes to hunting too.
is there, I have to ask this question very carefully because women are the fastest growing group of new hunters.
Women aged 18 to 35.
So young women are the fastest group.
And what I'm seeing in that group now, what I'm seeing is there are sometimes divisions as to among women in those hunting groups.
Certainly.
What's going on there?
Because as just a dumb guy, I don't know, and I don't understand, I want to know.
Well, I don't want to speak for everybody, but I've been involved with, you know, several women's hunting groups.
I've mentored women's hunts here in Wisconsin and in some of our states out west.
And I think it's just like anything else, Joel.
I think there are people that have common interests, and when you bring them together,
Sometimes they decide, you know, I think emotions take over sometimes.
I think that competition takes over.
I think sometimes
This is a hard one to explain.
Let's just not share go to the social media is completely ruined.
I'm
this.
To what you said, the social media thing, it has some areas of hunting and for women in the outdoors, it's completely been annihilated on social media.
You have some people that misrepresent women in the outdoors.
You have women like me.
I was fortunate enough to be born and raised into hunting.
My father took me in the woods as soon as I could walk around and handle firearms safely.
I was blessed with that opportunity.
I see women getting into it for the wrong reason sometimes.
Sometimes, just be quite honest, it's for attention, right?
And it can
that turns toxic.
And when you, when I was my earlier point of you bring people together with these common interests, but then you really put them together and you understand the root of where those interests came from and how they came to life.
There's a lot of division that happens.
And it, it's really, it's unsettling for someone like me.
I've been around a lot of women in the outdoors.
I've personally experienced it.
And I got to say,
I don't want to hurt all the women's feelings that are listening to this, but I'd rather hunt with men any day of the week.
Really?
it true that my daughter's in high school right now and it just seems like girls are mean?
meaner than boys.
Boys are fighters, but girls are mean.
And girls don't
but
fight,
cat fight.
They hold on
single day
to represent the outdoor community, to expose new hunters, whether male or female, to the community, to teach, and not only about just going out and harvesting these animals.
You have women that are going out there and guiding big game hunts out west and then on the off season they're teaching foraging and they're teaching how to utilize these harvests or how to turn hides or bones or antlers into jewelry or clothing.
There are so many amazing women out there that are doing the work and you know what a lot of times those women they don't even post it on social media because they actually you know that it's coming from their heart of hearts because they're not looking for that like they're looking it truly brings them happiness and
and warms their hearts knowing
And I want to talk about it because I think there's good that comes from it in people who find an interest they never may have found.
But then I've seen just within the last year, I've seen people post a deer that they shot in a high fence.
Now, I have no problem with high fence hunting.
I don't either.
I have high fence hunted.
But posted a high fence deer at the beginning of the Wisconsin.
deer season, making it look like they shot a wild deer.
Nobody did
Oh, yes, they do.
Yes, they do.
And they're using lots of filters on the videos and claiming certain things.
I say to myself, if you're really interested in truly bringing people to the outdoors, you're going to take your pictures.
Of course, we had beautiful pictures of a turkey this morning, but you're not going to rep misrepresent things.
I think the misrepresentation of your motives or, you know, how you explain that you, you're doing all these things.
I'm not out here for attention, but look at all the things I'm doing to get attention.
And that's a contradiction.
And when people see that, I think that's what.
we struggle with as hunters because we're out here trying to convince the non-hunting community that we're good conservationists.
Most people that hunt will tell you straight up how difficult it is.
Yes.
And when it comes to let's say specifically waterfowl hunting, which this is part of the Fall Life podcast, waterfowl hunting is extremely difficult to
be
consistently successful at.
Oh
my
gosh.
It's very expensive.
It's intense.
The learning curve is unbelievable.
And most importantly, the barrier of entry.
is very high.
And what social media does is it creates what I call instant false credibility.
And I think the audience has changed.
And I think that people that can go on to social media and develop this credibility, I just want them to ask themselves.
I think everybody like what Ellie just touched on is, can you really truly hunt?
Do you truly have compassion for the animals you pursue?
Do you understand what respect for the resource means?
Are you a conservationist?
Do you give sweat equity and elbow grease to the animals and give back?
Have you taken a veteran hunting?
Have you mentored a kid into hunting?
Have you worked with St.
Jude's and brought a family of a sick kid out?
Where does your credibility come from?
And on top of that, do you have the ability to harvest animals on a successful basis the right way?
and be successful, not unethical, not poaching, not putting a filter on it and making it look like he killed a big deer.
And we all know that it was killed in high fence, which you go kill high fence.
Fine.
That's fine.
make it like it's a fair chase hunt in Wisconsin
Do you really know how to hunt?
Can you see a mule deer's horns when he's bedded down on a ridge?
in Nevada and stalk that deer and
he lives?
Have you ever put a deer to bed?
Well,
Yes.
study?
Do you know who, do you know who the trailblazers are?
Do you give credit to the trailblazers or did you get into it because
you're pretty and you get a lot of people watching your stuff because you're pretty, but you have no credibility.
How
happens in every industry, not just
Absolutely.
I wanted to relate this to the restaurant industry.
So what happened in the restaurant industry when we started doing things like Top Chef and some of the other cooking shows where you had all these people that were just making random things in their kitchen.
throwing it online and then they became celebrities.
Well, then you saw all these people going out and wanting to run restaurants because they only saw the glamour side of it.
And then they got into it and they're like, oh my gosh.
This actually isn't glamorous at all.
This
Well, you used to have to go to Honky Tonks and come up as a singer.
Tritt, the great Travis Tritt was on my show one time and I'm relating this back to where we're talking about, he's, he's a hunter in the conservationists.
He says, Chad, I'd be playing and
I'd be in a bar like Wando's and I'd be up there singing a Waylon song and there'd be a fist fight going on.
There'd be a pool table game going on.
There'd be a husband and wife talking louder than I could sing.
He said the next day I went out and bought a hundred foot guitar cord and I plugged it into the amp that night and I went and stood on that table and
I went and
stood on the pool table
and I made
him listen to me
and I
developed an audience and I developed they'll develop credibility because I could write a song.
I could play guitar and now it's tick-tock and it's this false.
And I'm not saying
so fake that now Nashville is known as a 10 year town.
You're
getting
record deals on tick-tock in one month.
And
then just always ask yourself, are you a good hunter?
And when it's all said and done and people talk about you at your funeral.
Are they gonna say, man, that dude or that girl, she could live in the woods.
She could build a fire.
She could change a tire.
She could call a duck.
She could clean a duck, butcher a duck, process a duck, cook a duck, serve it as a bounty, and make people go, holy, there's no way that's not beef.
not
gonna have
the likes in the world are checking those boxes.
thinks,
And all you're seeing is the highlights.
I saw it on the front of a church billboard the other day.
It said, may your life be half as good as it looks on Facebook.
This is the life that we are
training this next generation to accept that they are accepted by likes, they are accepted by comments, they are accepted by notoriety or something going viral on social media.
And zero accountability, zero responsibility, zero integrity.
Do you remember when Mike Tyson said everybody's a tough guy until they get punched in the face?
Do you know how many people talk in their mom's basement on a
Wanda sucks, I went there last night and the burger sucks.
Why don't you come say at the Wando?
It
for two years when I bought the building next door, which was a former famous place.
And people thought I actually bought the building and kicked out a widow whose
husband bought it eight years
prior.
And people would walk in front of.
Wandos and say F. Wando six times in the course of an hour, but no one said it to my face and I
just a couple guys squared up.
I mean finally I just said
You know, yeah,
about it.
We're gonna talk we're talking more about this because this is a fascinating topic and Brittany you got 20 something year olds I got 20 something year olds Chad you've got one coming up in that age We're gonna talk about why that generation is so obsessed with it what we need to do to turn that around Because it is a downfall, but there's still some positives this is raised in the woods
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This is Raised in the Woods and we are on a fascinating topic that I love and we could talk about for hours on end.
My name is Joel Clayfish.
That's Ellie Lawton, co-host of the show.
Chad Belding from the national television show, The Foul Life on the Outdoor Channel and My Outdoor TV.
You can check him out on YouTube as well.
We
about some in-depth stuff.
We've got Wando here from the world famous Wando's.
Brittany Christensen is joining us as a contributor to the show today.
We're on the topic of social media, whether, you know, is it real?
Is it fake?
What are you portraying to people?
What are you doing to people who see it?
How does it affect the outdoors?
How does it affect your life, your own, you know, personal integrity?
I, this topic is so fascinating to me because we are watching a generation that
is social media is media now we grew up with television and the occasional movie if mom gave us five bucks to go to the movie theater now it is scroll scroll scroll living in two dimensions instead of the outdoors britney you have a
23 year
old a 23 year old okay i have a 23 and a 20 year old chad you've got a young daughter wander you have younger kids poor kids yeah yeah these these kids are fighting a daily battle right now
There is a battle and the devil's in that God blessed three inch by seven inch thing that's in their hands and they get calluses on their thumbs now from scrolling and doom scrolling
they
call it just doom scrolling doom scrolling Your brain's not working when you're doom scrolling Studies are showing we're losing thousands of words every year.
We're losing thousands of words in the American English
dictionary of usage because AI is telling us how to finish a sentence now.
We're not having to think of creative words to do it.
Nobody's writing real poetry.
They're pumping stuff into AI.
They're using it for their classes and their schedules.
What do you see with your 23-year-old and how do you
stop that?
How do we stop it?
Well, he actually, we had a conversation.
We went to dinner with, it was Chad, his daughter Alyssa and myself and they use AI.
like one of the teachers allows them to use AI to their advantage because it's the wave of the future.
So there's pros and cons.
And it's not just all thinking for yourself, but there are, you know, it is a quicker way of thinking, but it's like how, I guess how I Google something.
So then I, if I want to know something, I Google it so I can figure it out.
So then they'll use AI in that aspect, but having it think for you, having it write your papers, having it do every single thing for you is absolutely ridiculous.
And then what I,
I feel with the whole social media aspect of it, I feel like these kids are living through their phone so much that when they see a human being like face to face, they have social anxiety and they don't
know how to talk to a human being because they're used to seeing human beings on their phone.
destroyed the human contact, the human eye contact, the human everything that.
Yeah, my daughter's 15 and she has a phone.
There was part of me that never wanted to get her a phone, but then there's the fear of them falling back.
So it's a responsibility, it's accountability with it.
There's no scrolling.
She has social media pages, but
She knows that we do check her phone on a constant basis, not out of trust, just out of what can happen on them.
And in Brittany's the same way of its activation, it's spending time in the outdoors.
It's the dinners face
to
face.
I
literally
wrote it.
I wrote a
business plan for a restaurant business called Converse.
And
it was a chalkboard business to where if you don't have anything to talk about, we'll give you something.
We're going to write the topics on the board.
No phones allowed.
Well,
we want to put
on our social media.
I don't want it on social media.
I want word of mouth.
I want you
to go tell people how awesome Converse is because I built these tables that are full of pictures under three eighths inch glass.
And when people sit down at my tables in my house,
It's full of my experiences in life, and my daughters, and Britneys, and my brothers, and my moms, and my grandpa who grew up in Steubenville, Ohio with Dino Crocezzi, who became Dino Martino, that became Dean Martin.
So people see my pictures of my grandpa with Frank Sinatra and Joey Bishop in the rap pack.
It starts conversation.
And people on social media are just like this, and they don't know how to talk.
So I've tried to strive with my daughter at 15 to say,
life is so much bigger than what's going on and living through other people vicariously.
And the other thing is, is the compare, comparing yourself to everybody like you touched on.
It's a real thing.
It's a real thing.
My daughter, I will send a video and say, look, here's a practice schedule of this girl that made D1 volleyball.
And my daughter will go, don't need to see it, dad.
I already got a clear vision of what I want to do.
And I'm like, Holy, doesn't she?
even open them.
She's so
ahead, Wando, sorry.
The biggest problem is the phone.
biggest problem
I decide not to go in till later on a Friday night, and I go on my cameras.
Three bartenders, two bouncers will be on their phone.
You know so from
an employer Oh,
I mean other bar owners complain about their staffs vaping, you know, we're on there, you know eventually at night So, you know, you can watch the drinking, you know, we have a zero tolerance on that but it's like But it's also the biggest advertising Way for your business like I was working the front door on Saturday and at least eight people came up to my bouncer and it's like oh your tiktok famous
So,
famous.
I have two workers that are so-called
said, I will pay you to do stuff for me.
Right.
I've been saying this for years.
Girls need to produce a TikTok once a week, because that is the biggest medium right now is TikTok.
You're damned if you do, damned if you don't.
And these phones and the scroll, we're going to keep talking about this, how to get away from that.
The outdoors is the key.
This is why the show is fascinating.
And you're listening to us on.
old school media, the radio, but you can still catch us on the podcast,
on the social
Never
watched the girl in high school bleachers.
I was like, what is she doing?
She was going like that with her thing, like that, you know?
That's crazy.
look like.
If
like Janet Jackson.
got out the truck looking like Freddie
I'm telling you, there are people we know, people we've hunted with, people we've experienced before, they put a video on social media and you go, who the hell is that in the video?
They've used so many filters and softening.
Man.
It's, it's crazy.
And that's why this topic is so fascinating to me.
We're, we're talking about social media, how it affects people.
It did allow
that girl over there to slide into my DMs.
didn't even DM.
argument.
If
Chad Belden from the foul life.
I thought you were going to say Janet Jackson.
Well, no, his girlfriend from the moment for the moment.
We're going to see, we're going to see how this conversation goes.
Oh my goodness.
And Wando from the famous Wando's in Madison, which we are going
to birthplace
We're not even.
Do you promise we're going there tonight?
Yeah, we're going for sure.
I love Wando.
He's great.
Hey, I want to turn this around.
Let's go back.
Let's go to you.
We were talking about social media how what role it is for parents and and folks in our Gen X to help those Kids who are addicted to it get out into the outdoors.
Do we have a role?
Ellie lot and you were making a point, but I want to make sure everybody knew it wasn't
phone numbers and text each other and
dating apps, no anything through.
It's hard to...
You can
be
contacted or contact anybody you want.
Yes.
Whether or not they read it or see
Or respond.
thing, but you know, like that's...
Called sliding into their DMs,
not common
profile on Tinder I've
never had a dating
anything.
I refuse to do it.
I don't look down on it
And it works for some people, but
Yeah.
I mean, that's what I'm, I'm trying to talk about here is there are some good things about social media.
Wando, you're, you're a business owner.
I mean, most of us in this room are those tools.
That's how you reach your, your clientele, you know, so there's, we're talking about the younger generations coming up and how they rely heavily on social media.
Well, let me tell you these, these younger folks.
you know, getting out into the world, they're not going out to eat without looking on their phone first, looking at the menu, checking the place out.
I mean-
And I want to take it now back to the outdoors.
And how important it is, I think there is a healthy balance.
And I think where we're struggling is,
We're not finding the healthy balance and folks are getting folks are the scrolling is habitual, right?
When you watch I was on a plane the other day and I watched a guy scroll for I'm not kidding you eight hours and
It was, I couldn't sleep because I'm like, okay, he's gonna stop.
I gotta see how long he's gonna do this for.
And he never really stopped to read anything important, but it's a habit now.
Mindless.
Our brains are so overstimulated and that is why it is so important to get into the outdoors.
It is so important if you're not a hunter.
Go for a walk on one of the beautiful trails that the Midwest has.
Go reach out to somebody on social media and say, hey, I see you.
You went and experienced this.
Would you mind teaching me or showing me?
Learn something because we spend so many hours scrolling.
We're not learning.
We are doing a disservice to ourselves and all the resources we have at our fingertips.
We're not using it the correct way.
And finding that balance is so important.
And I think that's really where we need to step in and say, hey,
It's fine.
You want to post your harvest on Facebook or Instagram or make a TikTok?
Great.
If that makes you happy, great.
But you need to find a balance.
Don't filter it.
Be honest.
Portray a correct message so people that are thinking about getting into it
are not completely blindsided when they go out for that first duck hunt and they're like, whoa, I didn't sign up for this.
I thought it was, I just showed up and I got this beautiful duck,
That is, and that's, but that's happening more.
Depression is rising right now because of social media.
And what's happening is the young boys and young girls look on social media, they see only these people they know having fun at a party at an event.
And they think, why wasn't
I invited to the event.
Why wasn't I at that fun party?
Why am I not having fun all the time?
And the fact of the matter is back when we were growing up, we had rotary phones or touch tone phones.
We didn't know what everybody else was doing.
And we didn't only see the fun stuff, we lived it.
And if we wanted to go somewhere, we got on our bike and rode there.
Yeah, yeah.
There was a day when talent prevailed.
credibility prevailed.
Yes.
Now everybody's got their own podcast.
Everybody's got their own channel.
Everybody's got their own YouTube.
And what these kids are doing, what a lot of adults do, is they think that people really care.
And I'm here to tell you that we don't.
Nobody
cares.
I
want you to know that when you're at that Morgan Wallen concert in Madison, which he played here with Ella Langley last year, and we were putting together a little Ella Langley event at Wando's.
trying to anyway.
And she's a bat.
She's awesome.
She's incredible.
But when you go there and you watch how many people are watching her and what Morgan sing through a phone, because they think that when
they post that video
the next day that somebody cares, they were at the concert.
Nobody
put it on who gives
a s word.
Because nobody
cares.
Nobody cares.
And everybody that's doing this consistently thinks that
because we're rolling into
for the fall life and I mean this to every one of my partners.
If I didn't have it written that we have to do a certain amount of social media.
I don't have any personal social media.
I follow.
I think the foul life account follows 80 people.
I don't scroll.
She sees me on it sometimes because I have to pay attention on what I need to do to make these contract contractual obligations.
Yeah.
Lean
and right.
But it makes sense.
But I don't
care what you did at the Morgan Wallen concert.
I
don't care what you think about L Langley.
And I don't think that anybody else does.
So just stop.
Don't go to a concert and watch it through a screen.
started the social media Tuesday
I want to bring it back around.
We talked about the balance, and what has happened is the balance has shifted.
So heavily in the you know in in the younger generation to the obsession and I do think it's an addiction Because you get that dopamine push right you get that little dopamine when you flip it and that Keeps going down and down and down and get less and less and less of it in the less time You have natural dopamine the more depressed you're gonna end up So what are the antidotes to that and I think I always tell people live in three dimensions live in three 3d.
This is two-dimensional.
It's not
outdoors.
Well, talk about the worst night of my life is Halloween.
Everybody's in costumes.
So all of a sudden, we would obviously charge a cover, but the girl's getting the bar.
And they're on their phones.
I'm like, I tell my bouncers, are they going to order a drink?
They just want to take pictures for the rest of the night.
know, really?
But I mean, talk about a podcaster like Dan Bigcat.
I talked to him quite a bit and think about this.
He's a podcaster.
But if he references that he's going to Wando's before a Badger football game, it's chaotic.
I mean, I've had Aaron Rodgers in there, but nothing like this.
He can't even get in the door with people want to take a selfie.
I don't know how he does it because he can't relax.
You know, it's just ridiculous.
The following that these people have, you know, just because he is, you know, a famous podcaster.
I don't know where he ranks, but.
He was pretty famous.
Diana Ross?
That's the first one.
My
23.
social
But it is 100 percent the detriment of celebrities also.
I know several.
Nashville recording artists that have had to get off of social media because their depression went so through the roof.
They had to get right because
they're not getting their medications.
I don't
care.
That's not the argument.
They, they were wondering, how did they get that record deal?
Yeah.
How did they get that award
because it's
also readily available.
You
know
what
really bugs me about the way media is now is that I can't stand a regurgitator.
because
they read TMZ that morning.
They're the smartest person on earth.
They report everything right away.
But it used to be to where there was credibility you had to develop.
Maybe
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My name is Joel Clayfish.
I love being at the helm of this wacky show alongside Ellie Lawton, chef extraordinaire, outdoors woman, Megan Salazar, our contributor and Somalia said I had to say sports woman or outdoors woman.
We're
outdoors women.
And what was Megan doing?
Literally volunteering to make the outdoors better for new hunters.
Yes, she was.
Someone who puts her money where her mouth is and makes a difference.
Money, time, everything.
Yes, it's fantastic.
I want to talk about money and mouths.
Well, this is the cooking segment.
And what is cooking?
Which I'm on
that an
It's probably the worst case of.
of a hunter being stalked.
Oh God.
It is not often we get Chad here with us in Wisconsin.
So Chad, if you're in the waterfall world, you know Chad Belding.
And Chad, some of our listeners may not know, you know, where he came from, how you started.
I just kind of want you to explain to our listeners how the fall life started, where you started at.
You put a ton of, you said, sweat equity before.
You've put a ton of sweat equity to build what you have now, this waterfall empire.
Tell us about that.
How did it start?
What are your first memories laid on us?
Um, in 2003.
I really developed what I call an entrepreneurial spirit.
And I don't know if you're born with it.
I don't know if you can learn it in college, but I had this desire, like we talked about in the last episode of Raised in the Woods of manifesting something.
And I wanted to be a businessman.
And my first business was portable toilets.
And I bring that up because- That's beyond awesome.
I was a pumper.
I ran the truck.
I sold them.
I checked on them, I served whatever, but it helped me to develop the, the talent of building a network.
And at the same time I was competition calling and I was trying to
ducks and geese and I was traveling all over the continental United States, competing in regionals and States and worlds and trying to be the
and I got my, you know, what kicked daily, like laughed off the stage, but then I started winning.
Then I started getting a lot of top fives.
But at the same time I was developing a relationship, I met a guy named Fred Zink from Port Clinton, Ohio, who's one of the mentors of my career, my life, one of the best waterfowl all around hunters of all time.
I started filming with him.
And the way the foul I started was he invited the TV show called Ducks Unlimited Waterdog to Canada with us.
And it was ran by a lady that's still in my life named Shannon Nardi and her host of D Waterdog was Justin Tackett.
And they said, where are you from?
I said, I'm from Nevada.
They said, we've never hunted out there.
I said, well, come out.
So
they did in a month after we went to Idaho and Oregon and Nevada, their producer called me said, I want to start a show about you.
You're awesome on camera.
He said, are you interested?
I said, yeah.
His name was Mike Devine.
He had divine productions in Oklahoma.
And I was going to name the show Dr. Duck.
And I was going to write
a prescription for success.
Oh,
linguist
like, I'm an idiot.
I don't have the credibility.
If social media was around, I'd have done it.
And so Paris Hilton and.
Lionel Richie's daughter and Nicole Richie had a show on MTV called The Simple
these rich chicks, milk and cows.
Foul Life.
And
I
leaned
back and
the reason I started with the toilet company, because I'm in my office and in my office I had a mount.
It was nine banded green heads on a pedestal mount coming through flooded timber with a no trespassing
sign
shot up like rednecks do.
And I had a plaque on it that said strike up the band.
And I looked at the mountain, I said, I'm going to name a company Bandit, because that guy asked me to do a show about it.
And I'm like, I'm going to name a company Bandit.
And that's how Bandit started his bandit productions.
The foul life, we started filming in the fall of 08.
We went to air in 2009.
And I wore a shirt.
that I designed with a company called Bandit Gear I started.
It was a Guns N' Roses song called
Gear.
It was called Double Talkin' Jive, the song Axel Rose wrote.
And I named two geese fightin' Double Cluckin' Jive.
And I wore it on the show and that's how Bandit started.
John O'Rourke, the hunting buyer at Cabela's in Sydney, Nebraska, put that shirt in the stores.
Then we started bandit calls.
He put every one of our calls in the stores.
And then they came to us and said, bandit's bigger than a duck calling t-shirt.
And now we have over 4,000 products.
Bandit's an unbelievable company.
Foul life is going into season 19.
Incredible.
It's kind of a cool story.
find us on social media at the...
thought
Oh, fine.
I love to hear that story because that really is fundamentally the...
the quintessential American dream.
It was not easy.
That was a short story.
That was a short story.
Yeah, it's not supposed to be easy.
It's not easy, but everybody in this room has chased their version of the American dream.
And, you know, if it weren't for the Mallard Duck and if it weren't for my passion for the
outdoors, I
made it out.
Hey, there's some ducks flying right by now.
I'm
i would never have had the chance to fulfill one of my lifelong dreams of being part of a national television show
because symbiosis and luck doesn't happen.
Earlier you said you make it happen.
And that's what getting into the outdoors of the Great Midwest is all about.
Making the fortune of your life in experiences, not things, getting off the phone, getting into the woods, breathing the fresh air and taking that from field to table to put in your body and nourish it.
And that's why we love doing this show and we love having you along.
We'll see you next week.
unraised in the
woods.
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