From Roadkill to Culinary Thrills

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From Roadkill to Culinary Thrills

Raised in the Woods · Sat May 2, 2026

Kathryn Lake

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What's up, everybody?

This is Raised in the Woods.

My name's Joel Clayfish.

I get to man this ship right into the outdoors of the great state of Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois, Minnesota, and what am I forgetting?

I don't know, I'm just, I thought you were gonna say shipwreck.

So I'm stuck on that right now.

Sometimes it is a shipwreck, but who doesn't like to watch a shipwreck?

That's not the saying, is it though?

I'm not sure.

Hey, welcome.

We're glad to have you here.

This show is about everything in the great outdoors of the great Midwest, how to enjoy it, what to do while you're out there, get.

You rear-end off the couch and get outdoors.

Take what you have outside and put it on your dinner table.

And that is why this show is so fortunate to have an acclaimed French culinary and as the co-host of the show, Chef Ellie Lawton, Chef Lawton.

We couldn't do without you.

Bonjour.

Wow, you've been studying your French.

Yeah, I got one word.

Well, that's better than none.

Yeah.

I

mean that

bon appétit.

Yeah.

I usually say bone apple teeth.

Well, I like that better.

That's funny.

Kind of when you when you hunt for your own food, I think that that's probably something you could say bone apple teeth.

Yes.

Megan Salazar, Megan the Salazar Salazar is here with us.

Hey, he's he wrecked my ship.

So I'm not a pirate anymore.

Yeah.

What do we use?

Oh, yeah.

She only has 15 side names, stage names.

Well, she is a Somalia.

So sometimes we call her Megan the Somalia pirate.

Yes.

That is true.

And I have something that I just decided.

With Megan, I always like to just kind of decide something right off the bat and then make her come up with it.

And I would

like to look

at my face.

I think that's fun.

I think Megan just came up with a stage name for you.

What?

She can't say it on there.

Wow, you are spicy today.

Yeah, I ate a lot of Mexican food recently.

Okay, well, that would make sense.

Sarah Marinas is here.

Sarah is our homesteader.

And she comes up with some pretty awesome ideas of how to homestead stuff.

I don't even know like what kind of category homesteading is, Sarah, but I think that it just means like doing cool stuff with like basic bone stuff, right?

I think it's being resourceful and wanting to be able to

do something on your own without having to rely on a third party.

Kind of off the grid kind of stuff.

Yeah,

as a homesteader, she does it better.

Does that rhyme?

Yeah, that does.

I

wouldn't go that

far.

Hey, there's a bumper sticker.

Homesteaders do it better.

Yeah.

After maybe three years of trying, then you do.

Well,

it's a lot

of trial and error.

Yeah, you just got to keep plugging away and then you can say that.

But it's a lot of error.

But I have to say, I've known Sarah for a long time and she is the one person I know that has the best attitude about

every single thing.

So if there's anyone that can trial and error something for years, it is Sarah, because I guarantee you she faces all of this stuff with the best attitude.

I'm such a words of affirmation, girls.

Thank you.

I'm

not even joking about the fact that I don't think there's a person on earth who could dislike Sarah.

Oh, for sure.

I mean, you bring, listen, I will take them.

I will take them on if they dislike

you.

I'll send them your way.

You are.

genuinely one of the most pleasant people to be around.

Do you ever argue with your husband?

No, he won't engage.

Oh, so

you try to get him to argue and he

won't argue back.

Actually, Ellie got a first-hand seat to one of our biggest fights.

Oh, I sure did.

Well, it wasn't even a fight.

He just made me mad, and I didn't realize I was on speakerphone.

We're going to

be talking about something a little later in the show that I think a fight might be brewing between the two of them, actually.

So this is like some hardcore, gossipy drill.

Oh,

yes.

I can't wait to talk

about it.

But don't get your popcorn out.

Sarah

and Tyler's drama is

very

mild.

Oh, they're so wonderful.

It

has to do with the wild of the week and Sarah's is actually unbelievable.

I can't believe it.

Shelby Christensen is here and Ashlyn Whitting is here.

What an exciting show this is going to be because these two women are somewhat new to the outdoors, new to hunting.

One of them, I'm not going to tell you which one yet, is new to not

Wait, I'm saying this backward is not a vegan anymore.

I think

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that

that is fascinating to me.

I want to talk about that transition and

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what it

means

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to harvest

something in the outdoors and put it on your table and the responsibility and ethics of that.

That's also extremely exciting to me.

And the other one is an at home do it yourself.

Learn from scratch.

taxidermist.

How cool is that?

That's like, that's like so cool.

I mean, it's, I'll be honest, it's one step away from Jeffrey, Jeffrey Dahmer a little bit.

Um, we're in Wisconsin.

I think it's a little bit further than

a step.

Well, it's a couple of steps away from Jeffrey Dahmer.

Like,

careful, you might be

her next

mount.

Taxidermy that is.

Oh my God.

Oh, chef.

Not

horse.

Chef.

Talking about equine

stuff.

Cooking already.

I got I have my alligator cowboy boots on.

Everything is equine today.

Yeah, those are really cool.

Yeah, I know they are

like really, really cool.

Yeah.

Noah Morris from Morris Originals run in the ship today.

So good to have you here as well.

Noah, I want to talk about Wilds of the Week and then I want to get stuck on Sarah's because I

I can't.

I

can't.

Megan, what did you do this week?

You do anything fun in the outdoors?

Not in the outdoors, but I delivered 11 puppies.

Oh, Megan, that

is so wonderful.

That's an

awesome wild of the

week.

Yeah.

Oh,

man.

And she had assistance from her lover's

mom.

Your lover Dave's mom came in.

Hey, I have a question.

Does she know that

We refer to Dave as Megan's lover, Dave.

I believe so, because that's how she found out we were dating, but it was by listening to the show.

Yeah, remember you blew the story?

Oh, that's right.

She found out because we were saying Megan's lover, Dave, on the show.

Well, it's fitting.

You had announced that Megan had taken a lover.

I think

it's fitting.

We do have bouts of 1923 in this

show.

I love it.

Well, that's because it's your history.

Yes.

Hold on.

I'm going to have to cover my carriage during the show.

We might get rain.

No, it's fantastic.

Cheryl stayed up till 3 a.m.

with me delivering each one of those little puppies.

And they're so

cute.

They're puppies.

What

are the names?

I don't know, there's 11 of them.

Orange color, red color, purple color.

They're too small to have colors still.

They're so

lovely.

That's precious.

We're gonna post a picture of them on Facebook.

Oh, that's a great idea.

That sounds fantastic.

Chef Lawton, what do you got?

Well, as Megan was bringing animal life into this world, I was taking it out with my truck on an interstate.

Oh, no.

I was...

Are you Danielle now?

I

was just going to say that.

That sounds like Danielle.

It does.

I was trying to spin this story so it would have a lovely ending, but it just doesn't.

I cracked a turkey at about 55 miles an hour.

And well, the turkey technically hit me.

And all I saw was a big puff or a poof of feathers.

Wow.

Did it damage your truck?

Uh, no, you know what?

Chevy Silverado's are tough.

Dang.

All I had was, uh, I

got

home.

I thought that was Ford.

Whoa.

Whoa.

Easy, easy.

Everybody's settled down.

I drive a

Cadillac truck, so I don't know, but

it's old.

I got home.

I was very nervous to see the front of my truck because it was big turkey.

Uh, and I got home and it was just decorated in lovely feathers and a few specks of blood.

Oh, that's not

bad.

Well,

that's a good

outcome.

Nobody got hurt except for that poor turkey.

Um,

they're tough.

I mean,

honestly, he's probably hit probably buffed out and he walked away.

I honest to God, though, when a turkey hits your car, because I've had that happen for it's like an 18 pound bowling ball hitting

your

car.

I mean, those suckers are

dense.

I mean, it was trucking along.

They're dense.

Ashlyn or Shelby, did you do anything cool in the outdoors this week?

Either one of you.

I did.

I took my kids outside and played in the mud and then wonderful.

Yeah, we planted our beautiful little garden.

How old are your kids?

I've got one that's three.

One is going to be five on Monday somehow.

And I have a nine year old.

Wow.

Good for you.

That sounds fun.

I love playing in the mud.

Yeah, we loved

it.

I love getting mud on my clothes.

And when I'm hunting, I consider it a

Pride I consider it successful to find up with blood on my clothes, too.

Oh Wow now who's Jeffrey Dahmer?

Hey, I got your back listen Yes,

you have their back.

I am very very much outman today.

We've got an entire panel of

one, two, three, four, five women and me.

And I do find that from time to time as the ratio increases on me, that's the more I get made fun of.

So I'm ready for it, Sarah Marinas.

However, this one, I'm going to give you some baloney on.

Tell me about what happened to you this week.

All right.

So I volunteer at two of my kids Gala for like four years now and have never gotten

This year, I got to go, and somebody gifted me with two golden tickets.

And it was fun.

Raffle tickets.

Yeah, raffle tickets.

If you win, you get to pick, you get to skip any live auction item, and you just get it.

So I would have gotten it for

free.

It's like major white elephant kind of.

Yes.

Yeah.

So there was a trip to Hawaii worth $9,500, and that's what my husband really wanted, a luxury vacation.

I bet he did.

And there were a lot of practical things for a family of six with more children.

Yeah, I know where this is Sarah.

So they call my name.

I black out.

I go full blown prices.

Right.

I'm screaming up and down.

That's me.

That's me.

I'm

stopping.

I saw videos.

I thought I was way more classy and calm.

And I look at Tyler and he's like, Tyler, can I do it?

He shakes his head.

No.

And I do it anyways.

What did you

do?

I'll take those braces.

Oh, good lord.

Oh, Sarah, you and Tyler are gonna have

a big fight.

I do have.

And can you do

it on the air?

Oh,

you've met Tyler?

No.

He's so wonderful.

Why wouldn't I?

Whoa, slow down.

Just so the audience is clear on this.

You won the top prize of the entire gala.

I could have picked anything.

Anything.

Anything.

And you chose braces.

Braces for your children.

Which are valued over $6,000 to $8,000.

Over a

full scale luxury trip to the islands of Hawaii.

Yes.

I just want to add in that I saw Tyler before the show and

He said, Ellie, I really wanted the trip to Hawaii.

And I said, well, Tyler, everybody does except Sarah.

I cannot.

You

guys enjoy your tropical braces.

Well, please tell.

Peter, my second, doesn't need braces.

His perfect teeth.

He had his consultation today.

So now what?

Then I ran and got Ethan, pulled him out of school.

You're like, I'm fine.

And someone attacked

these braces on him.

I said, try this one.

I'm like, get in there.

Let him take pictures of your teeth.

It'll be great.

Oh my

goodness.

So now you're putting braces on a five year old.

He's seven.

Okay.

And there's a lot of crowd.

Do they even put braces on seven year olds?

No, but it does not.

Can you get a cash voucher?

Now it looks like he may possibly need braces within five years.

Yeah, Ethan will need them next year.

So if it saves me $8,000 next year.

I'm fine with that.

But just think this year you could have been on the beaches of Hawaii.

Yeah.

Sarah, I'm going to remind you, you never look back on your death bed and say, I'm glad I didn't do it.

In this case, she

will.

You guys, I am the luckiest person on planet Earth because the last time I went to Hawaii, I did not pay for my stay either.

And

the last trip to Hawaii, you were with me.

And it was amazing.

It was

amazing.

You could have relived that.

So if anybody has any connections in Hawaii that would like to gift me.

Wait a minute.

Well, we do have a connection.

Now

she wins braces and wants a free trip

to Hawaii too.

And wants a home for my marriage.

For

your marriage.

For

your marriage.

All

right.

I just want to be clear.

Sarah's marriage will evidently fail unless she gets a free trip

to Hawaii.

So call in.

Somebody has a connection somewhere cool, and I'm willing to go.

Message us on Facebook.

I can't even tell

you how exciting it is to hunt in Hawaii.

That is one of the greatest places there is to hunt.

We have such an exciting show, plus a recipe of the week, a homesteader tip of the week, and an amazing turkey hunt with my goddaughter.

You're listening to Raised in the Woods.

Kathryn Lake

It's that time of year!

Well, it's kind of like Christmas.

Thanksgiving.

It feels a little bit like Christmas when it's the eve of your turkey hunting week

in Wisconsin.

That's exciting.

And turkey hunting going on throughout the Midwest.

This is Raised in the Woods.

I'm Joel Clayfish.

That's Ellie Lawton, the cohost of this show.

We got a great group of contributors, including Sarah Marinas.

And of course, our Megan, the Somalia, pirate, our Somalia of the show.

Oh, my idea, Megan.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, gosh.

I've not even forgot.

I want to put more booze in food while you're cooking it.

Now, I don't drink, but the alcohol burns

off.

Are you Danielle?

No.

Danielle likes to drink the booze and then eat the food.

She doesn't

want the alcohol to burn off.

Well, that's great because the recipe that Ellie's gonna do today has wine in it.

Okay, that was not decided on, but it is

now.

Wow.

Megan just pulled

a jiggle, I think.

Well, thanks a

lot.

You're welcome.

This is

Raised in the Woods.

It's your one stop shop for everything in the great outdoors of the great Midwest from bringing food and forage to your kitchen table, how to enjoy the outdoors, and we try to explain it in a fairly simple, enjoyable, fun way.

We sure laugh at ourselves, so come along with us and laugh.

with us.

We've got a couple of guests today that I'm really excited to get to.

But first, I want to talk about my wild of the week.

I had one of the most awesome, memorable hunts that I've ever had.

I got to take out my goddaughter on

her first hunt.

And how old is Autumn?

Autumn is seven, almost eight years old.

So wonderful.

So we practiced with her with a 20 gauge shotgun in a

What's called a death grip mount, which means it takes the recoil out of the gun We used a lighter load in the gun with a red dot sight and we had a pillow on her shoulder when she shot

autumn is tiny

and you guys got to check out the Facebook page Because I do have the video posted and I think that I just about went through I acted like I won the prices right when she Shot she aimed and shot and got her first turkey and it is bigger than she is and

and it was an absolutely fantastic time and so satisfying.

I'm to the point where I think it's more fun to take someone hunting and get them a bird or get them an animal than it is to actually kill

it myself.

What was Autumn's reaction throughout your hunt?

Oh, she was thrilled throughout the hunt.

The hunt lasted about 45 minutes.

So

we had a blanket on the ground of the blind so she could play games while she was waiting.

But Tom came in probably 40 minutes after sunlight.

took

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him

about 10 minutes on the perimeter.

And then he raced right into the decoys.

And she was so excited.

And when she finally shot and begged the bird, she was all smiles.

Check out the pictures on Facebook.

Check out the video because it was really a fantastic experience.

And I got to take my goddaughter, which made it really cool.

And of course, now Woody, her dad, if you're a friend of the show, you've heard the name John Whitmore, a good hunting

buddy

of all of ours.

You'll I had to shorten the video because

there was some very excited, colorful words that John

Whitmer was using.

I know John Whitmer's mouth, no.

Yeah,

it's hard to believe, but that was really...

quite a fantastic

time.

Tell us about Autumn's about actually shooting the turkey pulling the trigger and that whole process because I know it took her a little bit.

It took her she was a little apprehensive at first and I think that when you have a new hunter you let them decide you know if they're going to pull the trigger

or

not.

Hunting for me the joy of being out there the joy of fooling mother nature and having the birds come in I think is very important but I also think that there are

people who are too young, and there are people who are the same age and ready to hunt.

Autumn had, you know, fired a gun several times before.

And she spent quite a bit of time in the field.

She spent.

Goose hunting and, and turkey hunting with, with John.

So she's definitely been around it.

That's, that's a really good point.

I think one of the best ways to introduce a new hunter to hunting is to bring them along.

Yeah, just let them see it unfold.

Let them see it, let them experience how it happens.

you know, they're gonna get used to the noise of gunshots, which is when you first experience, I mean, it's a very loud noise.

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It's a

shocking noise.

So if you start to understand and have the expectations of what a hunt really is and with the sounds, and the gravity of deciding to take the life of an animal, which is, is something that is very important.

I think that really helps.

And she she had a fantastic time.

I love the quick hunt.

with new hunters, especially young hunters, because they're not going to lose interest.

And she

said right after it that she was ready to go again next year.

So

I'm really excited about

that.

Yeah, that was really fantastic.

We have a couple of guests today who are new-ish to hunting.

And I'm pretty excited to have them here.

Shelby Christensen and Ashlyn Whitting are here.

And ladies, what was that first step?

for you as you started getting into hunting, not as kids, but as adults.

Shelby, what was that like for you?

You were telling me you were, you know, later to hunting, but now you're, you're into it.

Yeah.

I started hunting when I was 19, I believe.

I never had any family or friends into it.

This was all, I made the decision that I wanted to try it.

But for years before that, I had a lot of interest in just animals themselves and taxidermy, pelts.

Although I never again had the hunting, family, fishing, trapping, but I did go to nature camps.

We did go camping.

We did go hiking.

And I gained an appreciation from the outdoors that way.

And I had a fascination with bones and fur and feathers.

So I

started picking up roadkill.

That was my first step of

actually getting into

hunting was picking up stuff and then I'd bury it in the yard and pick up the bones after.

And that's where I

and begin to say, you know, maybe I can go beyond this.

I can get these specimens myself and I can also provide food for myself.

That's so awesome.

I have never heard that as an approach to getting into hunting.

That's a brand new one.

We're

going to get into that.

We're going to talk about that.

And we're going to talk a little bit about the other thing that you do that I'm already seeing jewelry in my mind.

And that's how to use what you kill to the fullest extent, which is something very important to me.

And I think part of the ethics of your hunt.

Oh, man.

We talk about some crazy stuff.

That's why this is so cool.

We got our homesteader stuff coming up, and of course our recipe from the award-winning chef, Ellie Lott.

This is Raised in the Woods!

Raised in the Woods is here.

We're back and we are expanded and growing.

We're now in five states, Wisconsin, Michigan, Minnesota, Illinois, and Iowa.

My name is Joel Clayfish.

I get to co-captain this ship with the culinary master, Ellie Lawton.

appreciate having you along, love your insight into the outdoors and into cooking, that's for sure.

Thanks, Joel.

That's a really nice thing to say.

Well, clearly by the looks of it, I like to eat.

So that any time, and now I love wild games so much that I think when I buy meat from the store, it actually tastes different to me.

It tastes odd.

You probably don't buy a whole lot of meat from the store.

I don't buy.

meat from the store, but even if I'm at a restaurant

and I'm eating

meat, now it seems to taste different.

Do you tell the waiter or waitress, hey, give me the gamiest chunk of meat you got back there.

Go

find the

gamiest chunk of meat.

What's the oldest piece of meat you have in the

kitchen?

No, but that's not a bad idea.

I don't necessarily think wild game is gamier,

though.

Give me the most grisly, gamiest piece of protein you have in the back.

I'll take it.

Then they go behind the dumpster,

like, I think we got a raccoon back there.

Well, then

they

call Shelby

and say she has any

roadkill.

Because we need to get back to Shelby.

Shelby was

talking.

Shelby Christensen is here.

She's newish to hunting, and she's got some odd hobbies that I'm fascinated by.

And she was telling us how she got interested in hunting by literally being interested in animals.

And I know you said you have a background.

You have a minor degree in entomology.

My daughter loves entomology.

studying museum studies and anthropology at Baylor now in the graduate program.

So I'm fascinated by bugs.

We've got bugs up in this, you know, in these rooms.

And I think that there's kind of a close connection to taxidermy.

But how on earth and why on earth did did friends say what an odd hobby you like to pick pick apart animals and and use them, which I think relates perfectly ethically to hunting.

Yeah, in

Well, surprise a lot of people, but especially the time when I was young through middle school to high school, there was a very, very being a kind of strong word, but there was a significant internet community of, it used to be called vulture culture.

So

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that was

people.

It was a lot of

young women too.

And it was on like different websites and blogs, you'd still find them on Instagram.

So it's.

more of the animal preservation, so it can include taxidermy, it can include like wet specimens, so jarred specimens, bone

cleaning.

So

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it was

this smaller little internet community of, again, mostly young women who were interested in this kind of stuff.

So although I didn't have an inkling that I was going to hunt or trap at the time, I was interacting with people who bought from trapeze, who bought from hunters.

What I had access to at the time was roadkill.

So that's where I started with that.

I

did work with a few homesteaders, small farmers, and I did some butchering.

So I've done rabbits and ducks and chickens, things like that.

And that's where I kind of got into this is where food comes from.

This is important for me to recognize, to do, to know how to do.

I mean, you have dabbled in everything from the beginning, the whole life cycle all the way wrapped around to preservation, which is quite impressive and very interesting.

Yeah, and my parents, you know, owe them everything, supported this.

They thought

it was weird.

Those are wonderful parents.

They thought it

was interesting.

Yeah, no, it was an incredible help to me because yes, it was a weird hobby.

It was unusual.

But my parents said, yeah, if that's something you're into, my mother took me to a

Little taxidermy learning course where it was held in a city warehouse and there were a bunch of people who had rabbits that They were domestic rabbits sold as reptile food, but that was the first taxidermy I did was this little off-the-wall taxidermy class Wow, and from there I would do some home either roadkill or like reptile feeders

So

like the white rats and mice so got some

some experience there that has to be kind of an overwhelming hobby to get into because

There's so many different techniques.

There's so many different products I'm assuming you can use.

I mean, how do you, as a young adult or middle school, high school age too, how do you even decide where to start that?

I mean, you just kind of have to dive

in, I guess.

Yeah, pretty much everything you can learn on the internet.

There were some older taxidermy forums and stuff that I frequented.

A lot of it was trial and error.

It's not, the preservation part isn't terribly difficult.

It's making it look decent.

That's a

difficult part.

So I started just like dry preserve with borax.

You put some stuff on the skin.

It looks kind of crinkly and terrible.

And you kind of go from there.

Nowadays, I do more, a lot more, a lot of bones more so than anything else are full mounts.

I still have a few, but they were

more of smaller birds, small animals, squirrels, things like that.

I haven't gone to like a deer or anything larger.

But I have enjoyed going through that process and a lot of it's just trial and error going.

If I was going to seriously go into taxidermy, I'd get an apprenticeship.

But it is something that the bar is actually pretty low of when you just want to start just dip your

feet

into

preserving

it.

And then.

Talk to us about how you transitioned into actually hunting.

Yes.

So it was, it would have been just before college, 2018.

I said, all right, this is something I'm interested.

I at least want to try it out.

I took Hunter Safety.

I used to live in Michigan, so I took Hunter Safety in Michigan.

found a 30 year old Marlin 60 at a gun show with an old scope on it.

Probably

overpaid

for it.

That's so awesome.

But that was also something that I had to learn myself.

No

family or friends who really had any significant firearm experience.

I'll bet you there ain't many 19 year olds who've killed their first deer with a Marlin

60.

That's

so

cool.

Those were squirrels actually.

So I haven't actually gotten a deer yet.

That's the one that's on the list.

Is anyone in your family now kind of interested in hunting or are they still very supportive in your hunting endeavors or very supportive?

Um, but no still Not really not really running in the family.

It's just me who's

been

doing

yeah introduced them to eating wild game yet though

Yes, my mom has put squirrel and with the chicken and let me use an instant pot to cook coyote which did not turn out great Wow

Well, I'm glad you tried it.

I I've eaten bobcat before and it turned out

Pretty decent.

I can't I've heard good things about no, so okay

Shelby what I love is that you're just you just get into all of it and you just try all of it and I wish more people would do that especially when it comes to hunting and eating wild game and just Experimenting with the the many different things you can do with a harvest outside of just eating it and it's just so cool It's so cool to hear your story.

Yeah in

What people realize too, like a lot of my classes that I've taken are through the DNR.

I took Hunter and Trapper Safety in Michigan.

I've taken Trapper Safety here and a whole bunch of learned hunts through the DNR.

And here's a tip too for people.

You don't need to be dragged by someone else

to go

to these classes, especially women.

There's a lot of women who are coming in with their boyfriends or husbands, which is excellent.

And the classes

are so wonderful.

I mean, Megan and I have both mentored for some of these classes, one of which that you took.

I think, right, Megan?

No, she was in the cooking class.

Oh, the cooking class,

yeah, yeah.

But I mean, to your point, Shelby, there are so many different resources and ways to get involved.

I mean, there's a lot of people that don't get involved because they just don't have a family member or a friend that does it.

But like you're saying, the DNR offers so many amazing resources and all of these learned hunts, especially for women now, there's so many coming up all the time.

Megan, you're cooking classes.

I mean, there's so many different things to get involved and just try it.

I want to ask some of the questions that may come up in the oddities category

here.

I mean, let's be honest.

A lot of the things you're talking about, they're borderline kind of mainstream taboo, really.

And so I want to know was that part of it, was that part of it tough?

Because

There had to have at some point been some folks you met or told them about some of the stuff you did, you know, picking up roadkill and taxidermy and at home or drying the bones to use them for things.

Some people are going to be kind of judgmental about that.

Did you face a lot of that?

Not really.

I think it would surprise a lot of people how mainstream in a lot of places that actually is oddity shows are huge.

And there is a lot of people who even are more alternative.

that have these interests, they think it's cool.

They think it's cool to hang a pelt on the wall.

They think

stones are cool.

I couldn't agree more.

Wonder, it is art.

It is art.

Period.

It's art.

And the natural...

the natural dimensions with the Fibonacci code and the bones and the hair structure and the skin of animals is so often overlooked during the harvest.

So many people, you know, many, many people want the shoulder mount on the wall because

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that's

cool, right?

But they're forgetting about using the skin to make a knife sheath or a foot to make a knife.

And you have taken that even further.

And

it's weird because in this country we've got certain taboos, like it's taboo to eat carp, where in Europe eating carp is a delicacy.

It's one of the most served fish, gefelte fish, and the Jewish community is carp, and it's absolutely delicious.

I think one of the fascinating things about you is that you never let any of the taboos or preconceptions, let's say, stop you from doing this really cool stuff, and now on the other end of it, you're completely experienced in it, and you have this really

Really cool stuff.

You got some trinkets in your pocket too that are just awesome.

What is going on with that?

Yeah, tell us about those.

Yeah, so I brought a few things along.

I brought a key chain that was made out of the foot of the skunk.

So this is not actually that difficult to do.

A skunk foot key chain.

Is that like a lucky skunk foot, like a lucky rabbit's foot?

Well, the skunk wasn't lucky, but maybe, you know, maybe it'll bring a little luck there.

But drying feet, feet is also a big byproduct of the

trapping.

Industry in itself, you could say.

And that's something that you can use some alcohol, some borax, some salt, not too difficult to do.

And it lets you put another thing together.

It would be so cool.

It is interesting to see, too, having those negative reactions.

There are people who do have negative reactions, of course, with anything, but it's not nearly as much as you would think.

Well, that's good.

That's encouraging to me.

I think what's frustrating to me is the people who are critical of hunting, fishing and harvesting and even foraging some people are critical of, you know, they will be critical of that, but then they'll go to McDonald's and buy a burger with, you know, from a cow that was born in a cage, raised in a cage and slaughtered in a cage.

When you go to harvest your own animals, you are assuming the responsibility and the ethical and

importance of taking that life to feed your family to nourish yourself and Every speck of it that you use beyond just the meat I think is an ethical decision and an advantage now tell me about these little preserved things that are copper

coated things

Yeah, so these are copper electroformed vertebrae and I have the beak of a duck as well.

So copper electroforming.

They're so cool.

You're basically painting something with conductive paint, putting it in an acid bath dissolving copper, which then sticks to the conductive paint.

So it allows you to coat pretty much anything in a layer of copper.

how thick that layer is, how shiny, whatever, that's all done by time and the different concentrations of chemicals that

you've got.

You're

basically a scientist.

I mean, yeah, you're basically an artist.

Yes.

All at the

same time.

Yes.

They are very artistic things.

Sarah Moranis, our homesteader, she's got something to say about this.

Well, my mind is going wild.

About

braces?

Stop.

No, when you said you would bury the animals and then dig them up,

We found two dead bunnies in our yard, and we did a full-blown funeral for them.

And they sang a little song, so I'm like, we should dig them up.

Dig them back up.

Yes, I got to figure out all of this stuff.

Do you know where they are?

Yeah, there's a cross.

Yeah, they had a funeral, Joel.

Yeah, Christian rabbits.

Yes, and we did sing a few worship songs.

But that's a weekend of fun.

All dogs go to heaven, so maybe rabbits do too.

Of

course they do.

Yeah, you mentioned the cross.

That is where I started with Roadkill 2.

When I brought him back, I would put little crosses made out of little vines and twigs

on there.

That's

wonderful.

And it was also that learning that respect.

Even at that time, I had no part to play in the death of the animal.

I got that respect early on to say that this was a little life and it's important

to use the best of it.

Ah, God bless you for that.

That is an awesome lesson.

What a show.

You think you've heard it all and you haven't.

This is

Kathryn Lake

Raised in the Woods.

You're listening to Civic Media.

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Here on Raised

in the Woods, you never know what you're gonna hear.

My name's Joel Clayfish.

This is Ellie Lawton, co-host of the show.

Ellie, where can they check out Raised in the Woods if they don't catch it live at 11 on Saturdays on your Civic Media

stations?

Well, if you're busy picking up Roadkill on Saturday, you can always tune into any of our shows on Spotify.

Apple or you can go to civicmedia.us and search for raised in the woods.

Yes, and if you're just joining us we have

one of the most fascinating topics and guests I think we've ever had on the show.

It's amazing.

Shelby Christensen, who started by collecting roadkill and now has turned that into become she's become a hunter and harvester and she

and cooks her wild

game eats her wild game.

But she doesn't just go that far.

She goes so far as to use the skin, the bones of these animals.

She's

a vertebrae.

She has

taxidermist covered stuff that I want.

We learned that she's using a form of electroplating to create this beautiful jewelry and trinkets for lack of a better term out of these animal bones and animal parts and they're beautiful.

Honest to God.

That duck bill is beautiful.

Do you make jewelry with it?

Yeah, so those do have the little loops on them so they can be made into jewelry or they can be put on a key chain and that's really what I aim to do with it.

Copper Electroform Jewelry, you'll see a lot of it that people use crystals and shells and there are some bones and I think there should be more bones.

So I also have- No bones about it.

There are some pieces like I have some deer vertebrae which are much bigger.

Of course.

But you can

still wear as a necklace.

But it's something, it's

wearable, it's interesting, it's something that'll start conversations.

Definitely a conversation starter.

I mean, you're sitting in the studio, you can tell I like cool stuff that that starts conversations.

I don't know if there's anything as cool as the stuff that you've made, though.

That's just, I mean, that's

fascinating.

I'm like sitting here thinking of all the ways I can like wear the stuff you make, like the deer vertebrae, like on a like a scarf slide.

Oh, yeah.

That'd be so cool.

That would be very cool.

You could make bolos out of it.

You could make, I'm wearing the tooth of a bobcat I harvested.

I thought that was your

tooth.

No,

but I guess that

would, you know, I had my, I had a wisdom tooth pulled.

I could make that into jewelry probably.

Yeah, you should.

Yeah, this is fast.

This is absolutely fascinating.

I would put them in a garden.

Like I would want them

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as

the little pathway.

Like, why didn't that be a sole credit?

That would be really cool.

And different vertebrae or different items could be like, okay, that's what I put for my tomatoes.

Are your herbs?

I think that would be so cool.

Sorry, it might be onto something.

For the green

and copper.

So I think we could all agree that you could pretty much do anything with them.

Yeah, you could have little, you know, small animal vertebrae be the buttons on a shirt.

We're gonna have Noah grab some pictures so we can post them on our Facebook page.

Yeah, we'll post them on Facebook.

Because they're just so unique.

When you pull them out of your pocket,

before the show.

I was like, what is that?

We need to all have these things.

Yes, she makes this

beautiful copper jewelry and ornamental pieces out of the animals she harvests.

And that

like we've talked about so often on the show, use everything from your harvest that you can.

You know, understand the gravity of taking the life of an animal and use it.

Speaking of using weird things to make cool stuff, Sarah Marinas, our homesteader is here and she's got a homesteader tip of the week.

What have you got Sarah?

This one's controversial.

I do get, not even.

If you've got a nice yard, it's controversial.

We belong in the country.

We have one

of those

yards, just bikes everywhere, an RV 15 passenger van.

We don't have a classy yard, but we also have a lot of dandelions that I love.

We use them.

We pick

them and we use them for everything.

And in the spring, we make a lot of tea.

So we'll do a dandelion root tea.

Which is

very, very good for you.

It is.

It's packed with a lot of vitamins, minerals.

It's good for your digestion.

And then we also have a mint plant.

That thing, you cannot kill mint.

That'll just keep growing.

So we've been making a lot of tea in our house.

So how do you do

that?

Tell us how you do it.

Nothing fancy.

I just send my kids out and say collect the dandelions and then we get a big pile leave it outside for a day or two.

So

wait a minute.

Why are you leaving it outside?

to dry it.

Oh, you want it dry?

Yeah.

So

you dry it just by leaving

it outside like on a pan or something.

You don't

put it in a dehydrator or anything.

No, that's, I mean, that would be smart if you have that kind of time.

So

dandelion root, so you're not using the leaf or the flower using the root of the dandelion.

And then end mint, which grows and mint grows quite

quite

a bit

wild in Wisconsin.

I come across mint quite a bit.

And you're drying it, just drying it in your yard and then.

Or inside.

Or inside.

Yeah, nothing fancy.

Then we just throw it in a big pot and boil it.

Are we cleaning them off first before we dry them?

You should.

Yeah.

I won't say if we do or

not.

Rinse them off.

We don't put round up in our yard or anything.

So we just think it's dirt.

Last year on the show, we had dandelion salad from my yard.

Oh, it was

delicious.

I

absolutely loved it.

And I never knew you could eat the flower of it.

And we

were eating the flowers and it had a great vinaigrette on it.

It was delightful.

Megan just made a reservation to come pick dandelions at my house.

Really?

Are the slots filling up pretty

quick

to get a reservation?

I mean, I could probably have like 200 people leave with their full pocket.

I'll send the overflow to your house.

Yeah.

My dad will just shake his head like get him out of there.

You know what I

love?

I love the fact that people

curse dandelions so much and I love

them.

They're so

wonderful.

They're great.

They're beautiful flowers.

They make great food and now they make tea and I've gotten in, I've kind of gotten into tea a little

bit.

You can make wine with it too.

That's,

you can make

wine.

And there's a saying about dandelions that

They're either a weed or a flower.

It's just about your perspective.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think that's a great way to look at life.

That's the cup is half full or half empty.

And that's what this show is about.

Filling your cup with the great outdoors of the Midwest.

My name is Joel Clayfish.

Ellie Lawton is here, of course.

Sarah Marinus, our homesteader.

Ashlyn Whitting, who came with Shelby Christensen, who had the most fascinating story.

So fascinating.

I'm going to ask her if she can come.

back next week and be on the show too.

I want to hear more about her dead animal stories, which are like, I thought we were going to go like in a dark direction with that, but that was absolutely fascinating.

And of course, Megan Salazar, our Somalia, we'll see you next week on Raising the Woods.

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