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Matt Mueller on the Latest Movie Releases (Hour 2)
Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Mon Jun 1, 2026
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Movies are back in the theaters, baby.
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That's great That's great to hear and we'd love to hear from you about your thoughts on the movies coming out this summer Maybe what you're gonna go see and that's coming up just in a little while and yeah, we're gonna be very fun And then of course we wrap everything up with the nightcap where we talk about what we learned get to some last-minute texts and just have ourselves a good old times you guys have fun in the first hour Go ahead Dom
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Pete, you have kids, you have two children.
I do.
And I think they've had social media their entire lives, right?
We got him a phone.
Yeah, and my daughter Probably a little younger and they're both admittedly on their phones more than they'd like to be but they we've never had a social media issue with bullying or anything like that we're fortunate but
We're all on our phones too much in this house.
Myself included.
I love, I didn't have this at all when I was younger.
So I
I didn't know what to say because I feel like, you know, there's all these milestones, middle school, formative years, when you're a freshman in high school, you should be focused more on school, sophomore year, you typically get your driver's license.
So
I believe it's an important two senses of all the three of us.
You're the only one with children.
And I understand the, all the situation you're taking a new count, but dumb as somebody who's grown up with social media and you've seen the highs and lows of it, like I didn't, you know, we have social media.
We don't deal with it in the same way you may have or do, you know, looking at you as where you are right now.
And let's say in the next 10 years, you have children.
What do you think your thought would be as far as when they should be able to be on social media?
Yeah, my parents decided that that was the best route to take.
And I think I would have to agree.
I think as soon as they get into high school, I think that's the time to, um, explore social media.
I also think it kind of depends on the social media, you know, something
There you go.
That's a very good thought.
What do we have on the text line for the question?
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What now?
You can answer the question.
Oh, thank you very much.
I think I would kind of go a little bit of column A, column B with what you guys were saying.
So I think what I would do is if I had children, I think that they would get social media when needed.
So if they were
I guess what I would do is, like, I would have a family account, if you will.
Like, if there's YouTube, but there'll be a family account, you can access the family YouTube account.
You know, if they need Facebook for whatever reason, I don't think like young people need Facebook Dominic, right?
Like, that's
But as far as like YouTube is, I would say, all right, we'd have a family account.
You can access it there.
And that way we know what you're watching and what you're not watching and that kind of thing.
But there would be a lot of discussions too.
And I think I would go also along the same route.
Pete, as you as well as I'd look at my kid, if my kid is like, I don't want to say a good kid, but like,
They're showing responsibility.
They're showing that this is a privilege and not a right.
Then you have that deeper conversation, but I would start with YouTube because that's just everywhere.
I mean, that's ubiquitous.
What else do we have on that text line there?
Yeah, we got Melissa from Willy Street.
Texanin says, John and I didn't let our daughter go, I guess, on social media until she was 12.
She's always been mature for her age, so it felt okay.
Let's just say, somehow, she turned out way better than her parents.
Smiley face, the whole time.
I find that hard
Sean Boyce, 36.
Amanda Nimmer, our pal.
It says 13.
That's the age I lied and said I was when I got my first ever hotmail account that I still use to this day.
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Daniel Wheeler says it really depends on when you want that child to learn.
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We got a few more too, but we can get to those later.
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Reviews and his thoughts on his sub-stack, a man about film, please welcome Mr. Matt Miller.
Hello, Matt, welcome.
I'll call him, rephrase that.
Welcome back, big papa.
Oh, that's a weird thing to hear.
No one's ever called me that.
It
You don't look sleep deprived at all, man.
We have, I mean, I am knocking on all the wood in this room right now.
We have found something resembling a level of normalcy, but as any
as any good parent knows, that can change in a matter of moments.
The good news about parenting is that everything is a phase.
And the bad news about parenting is that everything is a phase.
So I'm enjoying a little bit of sleep.
I've also been training for this my entire life.
I've been going to bed at stupid hours my entire life.
Well, we're gonna ask you I mean you have you literally have your dad hat on I won't tell you to like You know literally take it off, but we're gonna put on the film hat right now And we're gonna talk some movies with you because that is what
You do.
You have your own sub-stack, A Man About Film.
You can also follow Matt on social media when it comes to this stuff.
And let's just kick it off real simple.
Summer is here, which means summer blockbusters.
A blockbuster.
Who would go see that?
We should be indoors and not there.
The drive-ins are back.
But you have the second weekend of a Star Wars movie falling behind a $10 million horror movie made by a YouTuber.
And behind the third weekend,
of a one million dollar horror movie also made by a claimed youtuber and it is i'm not going to say this is like
a tide shift, I'm not gonna say like, I saw some people being like, IP is over, I rest in peace IP.
And it's like the, the number one movie of the year is still the Super Mario Galaxy movie.
Like let's pump our brakes here.
But there does seem to be a move where Hollywood is starting to realize there is a young generation of people who love to go to the movies.
And they want movies directed at them.
They want movies about things that they are interested in.
They don't want hand-me-down franchises.
They don't want, you know, reboots of things that they weren't even alive for.
They want movies that take, that exist to them, that pertain to their interests.
And Hollywood now is like, oh, I guess maybe we should do that more often.
And to me, it's a godsend because...
We've been hearing for years how kids don't want to watch movies.
They're social media.
They get their face in their phone.
Well, as it turns out, if you're smart about it, you can start something on social media and bring it to the big screen.
Like you're right.
Obsession.
It's a third week of release.
It jumps over the old tired Star Wars franchise that I've been reading about with all these reviewers.
It took second place.
Star Wars, Mandalorian, Grogu is only in its second week and Obsession jumped it like.
This is fantastic.
And everybody is saying that the box office is back since pre-COVID days.
It's a mirror.
I love it.
And, you know, I know people are like, oh, a sequel in Devil Wears Prada 2, but it's a comedy.
And for several years, we've been really having a hard time getting people showing up to comedies and theaters.
And yes, it's a sequel, but it is Hollywood being like, why don't we make a sequel to a movie people like?
And so, which is a crazy concept in Hollywood.
And again, I don't think this is the end of franchises.
I mean, Toy Story 5 is about to make a ton of money.
Supergirl, I'm sure will do fine at the box office.
You know, I think this was a bad Star Wars play to take a series that had kind of worn out its welcome even on the small screen and try to graduate
it to a blockbuster on the big screen.
But the goal is not to eradicate franchises.
The goal is to get diversity of movies back in theaters.
And you're seeing that now.
You're seeing, you know, franchise movies like the Super Mario next to an original animated movie like Hoppers next to an original horror movie like Backrooms next to a comedy sequel like the Devil Wears Prada.
And
This is optimistic and people are showing up for these things.
That
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He is a film critic from Milwaukee.
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go to a man about film, see his thoughts on movies of young and old and all sorts of things, opinions he has, follow him on social media.
And before we went to the break, we were talking about the, maybe the studios figuring out the secret sauce to success in the actual theater, not streaming, not rentals, not anything like that, the actual movie theater where you drive to buy overpriced popcorn.
But Matt, something you said that's interesting regarding the devil, where his product two is.
When it comes to like those movies that have been gone for 10 15 20 years even longer I think that the devil wears product to cast and crew and I think the space ball sequels doing the same thing whereas They are building anticipation like a year plus out They are bringing people to the table to give folks the time to either rewatch it watch it for the first time and really get themselves into a place of being excited and I think
I mean, I don't work in the film industry.
I'm not a film critic.
But to me, that's the smartest thing when it comes to the legacy problem because I feel like a lot of film, a lot of studios are saying, well, let's just remake this movie or let's just do a sequel 35 years later with the cast.
And it'll be great.
And then it fails because no one really cares.
But I think that the Devil Wears Prada 2 said, well, let's tell everybody a year ago, we're making this movie for 2026.
And they built that excitement.
I think that's a responsibility upon the studio and the cast.
was, you know, Transformers movies, even though everyone was like the Transformers movies stink, were highest grossing movies of those years, you know, Aquaman becomes a billion dollar movie.
uh one of the goofiest heroes we've got you know of the mainstream heroes and that makes a billion dollars and now audiences are a little bit more choosy and they want to see stuff that feels like events and to your second point
I know a lot of people dragged you know Barbie for how elaborate and how much their marketing campaign was like just going extra and like wicked how much wicked was everywhere.
Yeah that's what you kind of have to do with some of these giant movies is just force awareness downs people's throats in a lot of cases where it's like listen a year in advance this is the day.
get excited for this day.
Oppenheimer had to do the same thing because there's just so many more options now.
There's just so much competing for people's interests.
So you kind of have to make yourself an event if you're one of those movies.
I think you see that.
Something like back rooms, when the buzz gets big, that rolls downhill and just collects and collects and collects.
And that's how you end up with a $10 million movie making $80 million in its opening weekend.
How you get obsession making more in its third weekend than its opening weekend for a horror movie, which is nuts.
But then you look at the opposite side and Mortal Kombat 2 comes out.
Everyone's like, it's fine, but that's the worst thing in the world.
That thing has no buzz and it just falls off the earth.
There is no audience of like, ah, let's just check it out.
Let's just see a movie to see a movie.
They're done with that movie.
They'll watch that at home when it comes out.
And Mandalorian and Grogu kind of became that, where after its first week and everyone was like, I haven't heard it's great.
I'll wait.
I don't need to see that.
And it just goes through the floor now.
So there's kind of no middle class of movie.
There used to be movies that could kind of have a mediocre opening and then kind of lag out because there would be an audience who'd be like, it's Wednesday night.
Let's go see a movie.
Now audiences are like, it's Wednesday night.
I can stream something.
I can go to a park.
I can hang out on YouTube.
They have more options.
So being a mediocrity.
is no longer enough.
You have to be something that people are excited about.
He is a Milwaukee based film critic who joins us here periodically on nightlight to talk movies.
Matt, it's interesting what you were saying.
I'm all for less sequels, less franchise films, still make them.
Some of them are great, but more back rooms, more obsession.
I haven't even seen either one of these movies.
But I look at the critics, I look at the box office and and Dom is a perfect
A demographic for this 22.
He's already seen both films because of YouTube.
So what did you think of the actual movies?
I think they're both really interested.
They're definitely flawed.
They're definitely movies.
You can tell her by first time feature film writer directors, especially on the screenplay side of things.
I think obsession kind of loses itself a little bit in the third act.
And I think back rooms.
does better when it's about the creepy eeriness of the rooms and less when it's about kind of psychology.
You can kind of tell us a 20 year old putting on a psychologist hat in some cases.
But the vibes of those movies and the direction, the craft involved, these guys have the juice.
Curry Barker and Cain Parsons.
These guys are genuinely interesting directors doing really interesting stuff.
Backrooms has this strange unnerving sense of horror.
If you're not a gory horror movie person or a jump scare person, Backrooms is your kind of horror movie.
It's
for a horror movie it'll like it's got a dark comedic streak to it a black comedy vibe and then all of a sudden something horrific happens and that's a tricky tone to pull off and in this kind of day and age a kind of horror not comedy per se but a horror movie with a wicked sense of humor these are not saw movies these are not dumb
These are not the terrifying movies where it's just all about how much gore you can put on screen.
There's real craft and smarts going on here.
And I'm really interested to see what they do next.
If this is their starting point for big Hollywood movies, this is really cool.
Well, and, you know, I'll just make a comment about that.
That's where I almost, because I get a little nervous for these, these filmmakers, because what happens is when.
their movies take off like this, then Hollywood comes in knocking and say, hey, do you want to direct the fourth Ant-Man movie?
And so the decision I think for them is like, do you stick to your own craft?
Do you stick to your own vision?
Or do you take that step out and say, all right, I'll do kind of a one for me, one for them, one for me, one for them.
It'll be interesting to see where they go next.
But what I wanted to ask you about, you know, and we touched on it briefly here during this conversation, and I mentioned it before we got on air is
you know, before recently, no one cared about the quote second week drop off.
Now it's headlines in my notifications, specifically Mandalorian Grogu, which I agree, I don't think they should have made if they were going to make this movie, it should have been after the second season, not after what was a third season that came with also, you had to watch a different show to get the third season.
But does this I mean, of course, box office matters.
I'm not saying it doesn't.
But
Nowadays, it used to be the movie came out to plug people buying the DVD.
Well, now folks, I don't need to go see the Mandalorian Grogu.
I can go watch it on Disney Plus.
The numbers that these movies make now on streaming are really never talked about unless it's something like, hey, this movie with Hugh Jackman from 1995 is just killing it on Hulu.
But that's the thing is these movies have huge lives after the box office.
But we still think in terms of, well, it didn't do well in the box office.
So it must be terrible.
It must be a failure.
Forget it.
But then you discover it three years later.
But I guess for me, it's like, why do we now all of a sudden care about the second week drop off?
Is it just for notifications and click baits?
I think it's, it's, you know, we've learned it's kind of like how the food, like people know a lot more about cooking stuff now.
So like, if you watch the Food Network 20 years ago, it would feel so pedestrian.
They'd be like, we're making cacio e pepe.
And you'd be like, oh, yeah, everyone knows how to make that now.
like 20 years ago, we kind of, people are more in tune to the box office now.
Talking about second weekend drops is not something I would have thought I would have been doing 10 years ago, because who cares on some level.
But, you know, the fact that it's a Star Wars movie means that a lot of people care.
And so you have that kind of aspect to all of that.
I do think, you know, you're right about the streaming thing that these things do have second lives elsewhere.
The problem is,
They have second lives that don't make money elsewhere.
You can have a big hit on Netflix.
It can be a flop that hits Netflix and is the number one movie there for a week.
You're not making ticket money off of that.
You're just making a flat fee off of that.
You're just making a little bit of a...
You, you're not making money off of that.
And that's kind of, you're seeing these studios really shy away from streaming movies in that regard now.
Disney doesn't do a lot of direct to Disney plus stuff now.
A lot of the only really Netflix is doing that hardcore these days and they're trying to retrain people how to go see movies in theaters and think about that.
There was a lot, I think I had said in a headline that obsession was going to go to digital rental.
this weekend that they were going to put it on there for like a $20, $30 charge.
Why would you do that?
It's making more money weekend after weekend.
Why would you cut into that for and put it out there for people to pirate and for people start getting that for free elsewhere?
Hollywood's kind of starting to relearn the lessons of how things work and you're back in the day Yeah, you're right people could make money off of the DVD rights and the cable rights and now a lot of those have gone away You're not making the money off the DVD anymore.
It's box office and theaters and then you know Plane rights and a little bit of cable rights and then you're streaming and you're not really making much money off of streaming So maybe that's why there's so much more focus on the box office in terms of like that is the key moneymaker
I wanted to ask you what are you most well a couple things You said Mario is the number one movie so far this year approaching a billion dollars if it hasn't already hit it and Michael is right behind it talk about having legs a movie about Michael Jackson should Will that surpass Mario and what are you most looking forward to this summer in terms of movies?
But anyways, what I hope people check out is the sheep detectives right now in theaters, which sounds like a parody movie when I say it out loud.
It is a movie about talking sheep, trying to solve.
Hugh Jackman's murder.
It is one of the best movies you'll see this year.
If you like stuff like Babe and Paddington and Knives Out, The Sheep Detectives is shockingly a great combination of all of those things.
I cried multiple times and it wasn't just because of new dad feelings, you know?
It's a genuinely really lovely, thoughtful, fun movie.
And I'm really excited about the new Spielberg.
I was a little concerned about
how it was going to do in theaters and tweeted about that and people are like wow slagging on you know Steven Spielberg and it's like no i'm really excited about him doing a sci-fi movie
him doing a movie with josh o'connor who was so good and wake up dead man um i i think that sounds really exciting to me and
I wish I was more excited for Supergirl.
It's directed by Craig Gillespie, who's made a lot of movies I really don't like.
And I wish James Gunn had stuck around and done the Supergirl movie, or better yet, gotten a female director to direct the Supergirl movie.
What a concept.
I think I would like to see that too as well.
Those are ones that I'm looking forward to this year.
And of course, Jackass, best for last, I believe it's called.
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Dom I feel like we have some more text messages that came through in the past few minutes,
yes We got a few we got Nick from texting on WMDX says I was about 17 when social media started taking off and I don't think kids should be younger to use it, but I think 16
Is but I think 16 at the youngest might seem a little too young to some people But if teams don't have access to social media then they will probably find even more stupid things to do that could be far much more damaging What else we got a couple more yeah, we got John Texting in on WMDX as well so for the tubes access I think establishing a national age of 16 would be a great start this
It's controversial enough to stir a nationwide conversation, and more thought will have to go into it.
Go into the amended age rules after some anger and debate, etc.
etc.
Very true.
And the tubes can be a dangerous place.
More parents will wake up if they pass a national law.
Let's wake them up and get them talking about it.
I think it was 16 maybe even 18 But like even people in Australia like yeah, good luck enforcing that okay, and I'm not saying you shouldn't I don't think I'm not saying you shouldn't entertain idea of you know a national law I'm just saying that would be a very difficult thing to do but understood understood what else we have left on the Facebook page there mr. Shwaba our Facebook page on
social media Facebook page on social media, which you have to be 17 in my opinion, but I'm kind of with Nick there but Robert's
He says, guns, beer, social media depends on the brain.
I'm still not old enough.
Bob Bro, that's Bob Bro the opera singer who's been on this show, is a diligent social media.
His response is, I don't know how he finds the time.
They're thoughtful, they're long, it's insanity.
I just can't do that, but he's so good at it.
Austin Galante on Facebook, the filmmaker says, 16th the youngest, I would probably be okay with 18.
Thank you, Austin.
Good to hear
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But on mine, uh, Danisha says, I think 15, but it's still a scary place at any age.
Silas says 16.
Joe says 90.
Our Michael says, our Michael Gull says 16.
And then this one I wanted to leave to last is my buddy Phil.
He says, struggling with this, both of our daughters are in sports where having an Instagram could be a big benefit as they hit high school and competed events that might feature them.
College and universities might also be looking for information on social media during recruitment or admission processes.
And, but we are also, we are so against social media in high school because of how it impacted our nephew.
And it was a huge reason as why he did what he did.
I know we will still need to drive in somehow, but we're not there yet.
Their nephew, I will say, took their own life because of bullying.
So that's a lot to take in as far as the opinion, but it makes sense, especially when it comes.
That's why Pete, I wanted to hear from you specifically, because you're a parent and I don't know how you juggle that world of like your kids.
saying please please please but you're also like i want to keep you safe
Absolutely.
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Guys, Pete, what did you learn tonight?
I learned that it's important to let the citizens and let independent people decide how our maps are drawn because the people need to be heard and you can't you can't be heard when our politicians don't have to listen to the folks who give them their jobs in the first place.
So independent in IRCs are the way to go in my opinion.
And and that is a that is a bipartisan statement.
I do not say that as a Democrat or Republican.
I'm saying that for the people IRCs are the way to go.
Uh, folks, we gotta get on out of here.
So as always, let's start off the thank yous with a thank you to Dominic, to Tucker, to engineering and traffic for all the work they do.
They make sure these microphones are turned on to everyone who called texted.
We thank you so much.
You are the reason why we are here.
Thank you so much to you, Sally Flores and Matt Miller for being our guest this evening.
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Pete, say good night to the people.
Good night,
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