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Movie Club – The Outsiders (Hour 2)
Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Thu May 28, 2026
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Based on the S. E. Hinton novel that we all read in school or we all watched the movie and said we read the novel, but we're going to be talking about that movie in just a little bit.
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What is a bad habit you wish to quit?
Pete, do me a favor.
Tell us where this came from tonight.
So our senior producer, Tucker Lagersky shared some information with us about how cigarette smoking in China has taken off.
It's increased by like over 50% people.
are still finding smoking.
The numbers are growing, whereas over the rest of the world, across the rest of the world, they're decreasing.
And I thought that was interesting.
And, you know, I don't, I mean, that's a bad habit, right?
Smoking is probably one of the worst you could have, do
This is a really, I mean, like what it says here, it says, China rose 39% between 2020.
2003 and 2023, even as it fell 26% in the rest of the world, this is the part that blows my mind.
The China National Tobacco Corporation, which by the way is a stunning sexy title for any company, generated roughly $244 billion in profit and tax revenue in 2025.
I get 50% from, yeah, that's a lot of money though.
That's still a lot of people smoke and do it.
I mean, like, yeah, it says about 7% of national government revenue and nearly, nearly what China says it spends on defense.
I mean, that is ridiculous.
The 2.4
tendency to go to bed holding my phone at night I like to watch a sitcom and and have a laugh before I fall asleep Usually I fall asleep picking out the sitcom like I'm asleep that fast and then in the morning I try so hard Not to go to my phone, but I
do
I'm in bed for an extra 20 minutes and you know, I really wish I don't
I appreciate the technology and what smartphones can do, but I am a little addicted to mine and I don't like that part of it.
And I try
I'm about to out my mother right now.
My mother used to be very much like, put your phones down, put your phones down.
And then one day she was at the table and she was just staring at her iPad.
And I just was staring at her and I'm like, put your iPad down.
What's your iPad?
Sassy boy.
I'm a sassy boy.
Greg's a sassy boy.
I mean, yeah, no, honestly, dude, I, okay, I'm not a doctor and I'm not going to say that doom scrolling or being on your device is as bad as smoking.
But I do think it, I actually just, I read a statistic for, for something, it said that when you look down at your phone, you're putting like 60 pounds of pressure on your neck.
You're putting
Whether it's your eyes, whether it's your body, there are repercussions to being addicted to your device.
And I don't think that's something you should just say, well, it's not the same as smoking.
Yeah, it's not, but it's also something, yeah, I think a lot of people.
Understand especially nowadays Dom.
What about you agreed
I know I don't know about you guys and this happened to me once when I was getting really into coffee not really into coffee, I was just drinking coffee But if you start let's say tomorrow Dom you just stopped doing energy drinks and you either like took some like took a different drink But it's just no longer a red bill or anything like that.
Do you think your body would have reaction?
I know I asked because people who drink a lot of coffee when they try to stop they'll get
Really bad headaches 100%
100 my mood is would would change I would probably wake up way later I'd stay in bed I'd probably doom scroll more like there's probably a lot of negative effects if I like get off of it It's not like I take it like so so much not like a massive amount, but it's pretty much every day So I yeah, I think it'll probably you only
It's not like you're doing anything wrong, but when you're flaunting your good fortune.
Listen, I have Facebook friends and probably Instagram friends too across a wide array of financial backgrounds and all kinds of stuff.
And I've caught myself going, I don't wanna post.
Like I'll post stuff if I'm proud of my kids, but I don't wanna say, hey, I don't wanna rub people's noses in it.
And other people, I find myself getting really irritated, like really.
There's no middle class anymore.
A lot of people are struggling.
You don't need to post this now.
We know
I mean, I understand what you're saying.
There's something I always look at it from this point of view of why are they posting it?
Are they doing it to make themselves feel better?
Are they doing it for the adulation, the congratulations, the likes, the whatever, the hearts?
And to me, that's a bigger...
like the addiction of posting your victories when maybe like there are other things in your life that aren't so satisfactory.
So
in a bragging tone, it sounds like what you're saying to me, it sounds like the person or people who are doing it are more trying to just say, like, look at me, accept me, validate, validate my whatever.
And, and, and, you know, it's kind of, I find it to be a little sad.
kind of insensitive.
Yeah.
Well, not even, I mean, it's, I don't look at it as insensitive on their part.
They can do whatever they want.
It's their, it's their social media page.
They can say whatever they'd like.
But when it's the thing of like the constant, like it's one side of it is the, they're always doing something amazing.
They're always living life to the fullest.
And you're like, okay, what's really going on here?
Or it's constantly just boohoo me.
Like,
It's nothing but a barrage of just like self-indulgent whining where it's just like feel sorry for me Someone has done me wrong against like dude.
Really dude, right?
So yeah, I mean I always look at it from a point of view like that I don't like I when I hate scroll I'm hate scrolling like politics That's why I can't even go on my Twitter account anymore.
My Twitter account is garbage at this point.
It's just absolute
Poison at this point.
So
that was one of our our responses on social media Mike Dussetel said responding to political post Daniel said, yeah, buddy, you got that right that for a while like when all social media started I did that constantly and I found myself typing non-stop because people come out of the woodwork and it's
Yeah.
And yeah, I understand completely what you're saying.
And speaking of comments on the live stream and or Facebook and or the text line, we're going to have to get back to that in just a little bit.
We'll come back, get in the movie club.
We'll do a couple of your responses.
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If you want to get in touch with us on the film tonight, it's Francis for Coppola's, the outsiders based off the SE Hinton.
That's a hard name to say.
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But yeah, I have not watched this movie.
in a very long time.
So it came out in 1983.
It's listed as a coming-of-age crime drama film, which I'd never heard anyone call it that before.
This
I mean,
Well, first of all, let's just start with the cast.
I mean, we'll get into the nuts and bolts of the actual film itself, but this is literally a who's who of people who would dominate Hollywood for the next, I mean, in, in a lot of these cases for the next 40 plus years.
Yeah.
See Thomas Howell is Pony Boy Curtis.
Ralph Maccio is Johnny.
Matt Dillon, who by the way, never a better person to play a hood than Matt Dillon.
Right.
And then Diane Lane.
There are other people in it.
Tom Waits is in the film, but like Diane Lane is in this film.
It's just, it is before it was,
Before they were famous, this was a star studded event.
Studios would pay millions of millions of dollars to get people of this caliber nowadays.
I mean, it's incredible.
And what I noticed too when I was watching it, they're all pretty good actors.
Thomas Howell probably had the least recognizable career of any of them.
And he was the lead.
And he still has had an amazing career.
He's always turning up and he does really good work.
Um, Rob Lowe was still a bad actor.
This was his feature film debut.
He's tough to watch at times.
Like I know he's handsome, but oh man, he, there are some times where I'm like, oh, it's, it's this cringe worthy.
Yeah, it was.
And I also wonder if those were his real teeth.
And I.
Here's the one thing I thought was really funny, like watching the, cause it was one of those old school movies where it was like, see Thomas Howell as Pony Boy Curtis, or actually it had it like as the Curtis boys and like you found out their names before the movie begins, but you're like Pony Boy, Johnny, Dali, Dairy, Soda Pop, Two Bit, and then Tom Cruise is Steve.
Steve.
Yeah,
We're going to take a really quick break to the news, but we are officially in the movie club right now talking about the Francis Ford Coppola classic that I call it the classic, the outsiders 1983.
We'll be talking more about the movie itself, more about the cast, our favorite parts.
We've got some clips ready to go and we'll be getting to your text messages on your thoughts regarding the movie as well as the question of the night.
What is a bad habit you want to quit?
So.
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We are talking about Francis Ford Coppola's 1983 crime youth drama thriller, The Outsiders.
Let me just start tacking on more and more genres on it.
Musical.
But yeah, we're talking about the outsiders right now for Movie Club.
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We were talking about this over the break during the news break.
The cast itself is just absolutely amazing.
And for me, I have to say that Emilio Estevez was the funniest person.
He was just constantly laughing.
and just kooky and weird and every time he's on screen I mean I didn't laugh the entire movie until that scene like halfway through or maybe a little bit past halfway where they're in the house and they're getting ready for the rumble and Emilio just is like he's cracking jokes and then he just pulls out a whole cake and he's sitting there watching TV eating a chocolate cake and drinking beer but he's just so good so so good
Yeah, he I think they were all good except Rob Lowe and Rob Lowe didn't have a lot of lines So he was passable and he was fine, but you played Don that mute that song Gloria and I love that opening where they it's Matt Dylan and see Thomas howling Ralph Machio walking and they encounter the rumble and Gloria's playing and they're walking the streets of Tulsa It's just a great energetic opening kind of opening scene, but I I agree Greg Emilio Esaviz is good and funny
I also think Matt Dillon was really funny as evidenced by this clip that I shared with Dom earlier when they're at the drive-in and he's giving Diane Lane's character Cherry a hard time and she literally lays into him even though he's kind of a scary dude and this is his response.
No, I didn't know you had this problem with yelling in my face.
He has so many lines like that.
But you're right, but it's so in character.
And he's a great character too.
And apparently he was kind of the glue of the cast.
Like, you know, he's the, they're all rebels, but he's the rebel.
And it was an interesting hierarchy between the characters because then they got Dairy, who if you remember in the book, they said nobody would mess with, not even Dali.
And it was just, and Patrick Swayze was...
Perfect for that role.
I don't remember what Patrick Swayze did before that.
I know he worked and had credits, but I think that propelled his career as well
I think so as well because I mean that movie came out in 83 and I can't remember exactly when dirty dancing came out, but it was just a few years after that Yeah, 87 1987 87 yeah, and the thing is like it was funny because when you know He sure he hits he hits pony boy and he takes off first of all the thing is like
In my head, this movie takes a lot longer.
This, in my head, this movie was like a two hour plus movie.
And this movie is paced fast.
Like it gets into it right away.
They're like, they're not screwing around.
They don't wait until the second act to get into like the meat of why everything is going on.
It's like, it's like they're going to a movie.
And then, oh my God, he stabs someone to death.
But Patrick Swayze just always looks like him.
Like, like in this movie, all of those guys look young.
Patrick Swayze, no offense, he doesn't.
He looks like an adult.
And he looks
And just like, even though he's not like super built, when you look at him and he's like getting ready for work and he puts his shirt on, you're like, yeah, I can understand why no one would want to fight him.
Not only could he probably beat you up, but he could literally dance around you while he was doing it.
And he could dirty dance
heard that
line since like it was in more innocent time where people just showed up and punched each other a few times and everyone went home to fight another day except Leif Garrett's character who, uh, who did get stabbed early on.
But, uh,
I think it holds up.
I like it.
I still like the movie because I'm watching it kind of like I did as a kid.
And it's sort of a safe hoodlum world, if that makes any sense, even though there was a death and Johnny dies and Dally dies.
I'm sorry about the spoiler alerts, but you've had enough time.
Like when I watch a Sandy Bullock movie, it's just easier to say it that way.
But there are also a couple, if you guys will indulge me, I love these Matt Dylan lines as well.
When he's in the hospital and he went up to rescue Johnny and Pony boy at the church.
There was a fire.
Even though they're the greasers, they did the right thing and pulled these kids out of a burning church to give them some redeeming qualities, which was nice.
Matt Dillon is very rude to the nurse.
And one of the nurses is Essie Hinton, the writer of the book.
I don't remember, I don't know if this is her or if it was a nurse from a different scene, but this is Matt Dillon giving the nurse a hard time and then saying a very iconic line when he wants to get even with the socios.
I threw it away.
just get out.
You're making my stomach sick.
You know, we gotta win that fight tonight.
We gotta get in with those socials.
We'll do it for Johnny,
I thought it was pretty good.
There was a lot of good actors.
I knew all of them.
I didn't know where they originated from, so this was pretty cool.
But yeah, I also really liked Emilio.
Most I would say he was probably my favorite character Just like you Greg because he was also in the breakfast club the breakfast club which we talked about a few weeks back But yeah, it was it was pretty good.
It was very like hard-nosed like I don't know He was like kind of background like I just really liked it.
I really
liked it Yeah, if you one of the reasons why I like Emilia Stavez in this movie so much as his laugh and if you want more of that watch
Young guns one and two.
He is so funny in that movie in those movies there There are almost offensively inaccurate on the facts, but it's they're still great watches and his laugh that he had like he laughs like that It's almost like Eddie Murphy.
There's a very distinct I know that's Emilio Estevez when he laughs like that because it's just that's him Right, that's a
He's still solid, such a solid actor at such a young age.
I don't know.
I mean, like, I think he could, I think he could definitely have pulled off the Johnny role.
I don't think he could have, I don't, I think he could only be Pony Boy or Johnny.
He could never have been any of the other boys, but, or maybe he would, maybe he could have been like a, you know, a junior social, but.
Although it would have been weird to see him come out with black hair and then get his hair dyed blonde because that is like, I only know, I only know Anthony Michael Hall with having blonde hair and now gray hair, but still it's like, yeah, that's an interesting question.
He's rusty Griswold.
He'll always be rusty Griswold.
I mean, he's the kid from Weird Science for me too.
So I
Absolutely.
Yeah, that's true.
That too.
This is kind of funny.
I read this.
The actress pulled so many pranks in the hotel where they stayed while shooting the movie.
Several years later, Tom Cruise was introduced to someone who said he worked at the hotel back when they were filming this.
And Tom Cruise just said to him, I'm sorry.
I don't know if they trashed the place or what, but apparently
Yeah, for
Something that's very interesting too is so at the end of the movie, there is a dedication.
to a teacher and, I'm sorry, a librarian and a class because Coppola didn't want to make this movie.
He had no interest until he spoke with a woman named Joellen Misakian, a school librarian from Lone Star Elementary School in Fresno, California, who wrote to Coppola on behalf of her seventh and eighth grade students about adapting the movie.
It was there.
inquiry and their kind words that actually led him to do this.
He had no interest before this and they were the ones.
So to me, like there's something so beautiful about a class reading this book and then having a good conversation with their teacher or their librarian and saying, write a letter, what could it hurt?
And we got this movie simply because of that.
That's
Hey, John, he was funny.
He was funny.
There's always got to be a funny guy in certain movies, and I thought he was that guy.
He played that role really, really well.
And I think I remember when Pony Boy and Emilio were actually talking, and then...
I think Pony Boy had to go somewhere else, or went into the car with a soche.
And yeah, I thought it was pretty funny.
He was like laughing.
I thought it was great.
I thought it was great.
I thought he was fun.
I love how
No, yeah, exactly.
That's pretty funny.
He said awesome Timothy Hutton Sean Penn Mickey Rourke Robert Downey Jr.
Anthony Michael Hall Scott Bale Dennis Quaid all audition for roles, but we're not cast Could you I mean that is a huge huge list right there,
All great stuff.
Well, thank you so much everyone for joining us in the night.
I almost said the nightclub.
The movie club here on nightlight.
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We will do that very soon as well.
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Got into a really big conversation earlier in the show, so let's get to some of your thoughts, Dom.
The text line is going.
Who is it talking?
Aw.
Yes, I am with you there, Stacy.
Bill says, staying up late to listen to Nightlight.
We're late.
So this is either late for bill or he listens to the rebroadcast like Mike Clemens does.
But either way, please don't stop listening, people.
We love you
Any other, that's all on Facebook?
That's all for Facebook, yep.
We have a couple more on the livestream here.
Laura Lee comes back to us and says, I'm obsessed with DVO.
I follow his media.
I read his emails.
I need help.
I get it.
He's a trash person.
He's terrible.
And I get the addiction too.
One day away.
Just take one day away and see what happens.
You'll feel better about it.
And then finally, Trumpet Joe on the live stream says, terrible habit, eating before bedtime.
Ugg, yes.
Oh, that's a bad one.
Trumpet Joe, I get that so much.
That is, that is, that is, yes.
That's my father.
I
love this when people make jokes about like when I used to come out of an audition and or when someone else would come out of an audition, they said, they said, you guys can go home.
Like I nailed it that,
that
much.
And I got the part.
Matt Dillon auditioned for the part of Dallas.
Francis Ford Coppola went up to him and told him, you can go home now.
Dillon thought he did not get the part and called his agent and told him he did not receive the role.
Coppola sent him home early because he already knew he was going to cast him as Dallas.
I was, I wouldn't know.
What was I listening?
I was listening to some interview where they were talking about the same thing where like,
the guy they were they were they had cast he said like oh well you're gonna have to move to this country for a few months for the show i think it's for game of thrones and no one had told him he actually got the role so he's like why are you guys talking about all this stuff like can someone just tell me what's going on here i wish i could the story would be a lot better if i remember who was talking but still like the the plight of the actor to be in limbo and just that anxious place of being at all times where you're like
You think you did well.
You don't get the role.
You don't think you did well or you don't try out or whatever.
I mean, it's just, oh, it was, it was Pedro Pascal.
It was Game of Thrones.
He auditioned for his role on the show and they loved him right away, but no one was telling him he was hired.
So he's like, they're asking me if I want to move to this country, Croatia for like three months.
I don't understand what's going on.
Like, well, you must go on the road.
They didn't tell me.
Was he in that did he get the role?
I very briefly like he has he has probably one of the most spectacular deaths ever in Game of Thrones, okay thumbs in the eyes Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
No, love him.
Okay.
All right more Pedro
Mass Pedro.
All right, folks, we got to get on out of here.
Tomorrow though, we're going to be talking to our buddy Jimmy Koska.
He is civic media sports director.
We're talking about actually shows, movies, things he is catching up on streaming wise.
We'll have a great conversation tomorrow with him.
It's casual Friday.
It's going to be a really fun time.
Do we have any other guests that day?
I think it's just Jimmy.
Hey,
Love it.
Nice.
Wonderful.
Wonderful.
Wonderful.
And I learned that Dom's opinions are great.
All right.
Word.
Thank you to everyone for getting in touch with us, calling, texting, and getting on the live stream.
And thank you to traffic engineering doc Tucker.
to Tucker and Dom for all the work they do.
We got to get out of here, stick around for more great program after this, but we'll be back tomorrow.
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