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Mike Clemens on the Latest in Wisconsin Sports (Hour 1)
Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Thu May 28, 2026
From Washington to Hollywood and right back to Wisconsin.
It's Night Light with Pete Schwabba and Greg Bach.
Connecting the dots on the stories shaping our world with smart takes, sharp humor, and plenty of personality.
You know, I really expected more professional behavior from you.
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Yeah, come on!
Here's Pete Schwabba.
Dude.
And Greg Bach.
Dude!
Hello, everybody.
Welcome to Night Light.
We are kicking this show off on a Thursday night, a beautiful Thursday night in the state of Wisconsin.
Coming to you live on the Civic Media Network, I am Pete Schwabba, based in northeast Wisconsin, beautiful northeast Wisconsin in Christmas City, USA, also known as Marinette, Wisconsin.
I am joined as always by my compadre who is just down the coast in Radio Park, Racine, Mr. Greg Bach.
Hello, Greg.
Hello.
Hello, everybody.
How are we doing?
I'm doing quite well.
I had a very productive day.
I got a lot done.
I'm feeling good.
I don't know.
Honestly, my body hurts again.
I was talking about this yesterday.
I did yard work today.
I cleaned more of the house.
And now, like, my whole upper body's just like... How out of shape do you have to be that housework makes you hurt?
Yeah, the general straightening.
and you
pull a
hammy.
That's problematic.
So I hope you get a chance.
During the breaks, I would stretch out, do some
jumping jacks.
Whatever
happened to jumping jacks, by the way, why don't we do jumping jacks anymore?
They're very fancy now.
They're jumping Jonathan's.
There's something going on.
Mr. Dom Lee is also joining us tonight for Madison, as he so often does.
And when I say so often, I mean every night.
Dom, how are
you?
I'm doing pretty good.
I really like that joke from Greg right there.
That was really funny.
That got me.
That got me for some reason.
I don't know what it was.
I liked it too.
Can I tell you something?
You
sound like you're
trying to stick up for him or something like I didn't like it.
No, it was good.
Well, I mean, it was real pizza farm reaction from you there, buddy.
Uh, no, I was doing the late night show at the laughing tap last Saturday and I did a joke and there was laughter.
And then one guy goes, that was funny.
I'm
like, sounds, sounds fake, but it was true.
It was pretty good.
But my day was, my day was really good.
Um, the one.
Downside was I was supposed to get my hair cut at 9 a.m.
Today and My barber had to reschedule no big deal, but I just I like having I like I wanted wanted to give my hair cut today, but look at there.
Do you go to a barber shop or a salon?
Barber shop nice.
Okay.
Barber shop.
Yeah,
actually go to a saloon.
Oh, that's what's
out for me
It's like, what would you like done with your hair?
And also make sure if you're going to spit out your tobacco or do it in that brass bucket there.
Which is such an old timey thing.
I never understood that.
But yeah, I love that idea,
the saloon.
Listen, they do the wash.
You go to a bar and you can wash your clothes.
Why not have a couple cocktails while
you get your hair cut?
Stop right there.
Did you say go to a bar and wash your clothes?
Yeah, there was called a suds and duds or something like that.
It was
a Chicago
years and years ago Connected to a bar you can go in and meet singles main goal have a cocktail and wait for your riff cycle to really I
was
really getting
I
go to laundry mat and that's where I do my drinking.
That's where I sneak my booze in.
Yeah.
I always say to myself, there should be a bar attached to this.
Well, Dom, good luck on the whole haircut thing.
I'm sure that'll work.
Yeah, good moss anyway.
I don't think you don't seem desperate for hair.
Greg's the expert though.
He used to cut hair.
What do you think about Dom's hair, Greg?
Well, I can't see it that close.
I mean, I can see that they're getting longer.
Yeah, that's quite long.
I feel like, are you
going to get trimmed?
You're gonna take a significant amount.
I'm gonna take a significant amount off because I you guys know this I play with my hair a lot It just it's sometimes it gets a little in my face, and I want it.
I want it.
I want it out of here I think I
see a split in there Dom too something to address with your barber if
you want when when we come to Madison one of these days when all of us are together I'll just shave your head dude.
Oh, I could do that Honestly, I'll shave your head, and I'll give you a nice taper on the sides in the back Like it won't just be a shaving it will be it will be of quality
Well, of quality then.
It's what I
do.
It's what I do with haircuts.
I give quality haircuts.
They're the best haircuts in the world.
Say it's the best.
I just say, you know, some say a lot of people are saying they're the best.
I don't know what that I don't understand, but that's the best haircuts in the world.
He could cut his
own.
I cannot believe I have
a Trump.
Oh, my
God.
Hey, you know what?
OK, here's a weird thing last night, guys.
OK,
so I went.
I got done with the show.
We didn't have our post-show meeting and my son was still in town.
So I said, can you drop me at the gym?
It's like three miles away on the way out of town.
I didn't have a car.
My daughter had a car.
My wife had a car.
My wife was at a high school graduation and she brought her mom long story.
So I'm like, I'll probably be fine.
So I go do this hour long workout.
I
can't get
ahold of anybody in my family.
So I went and I did the hydro massager.
I did the chair massager.
I'm there an hour and a half.
I don't hear a peep.
My phone is draining.
I'm at like seven percent.
I'm like, oh my God.
I hope people are wondering where I am, but maybe they're not.
I'm going to have to walk home from Planet Fitness on the highway.
It was the most helpless I felt and whatever I could have called.
We actually have taxicabs here in Marinette, Wisconsin, Christmas City.
But basically with what it was this was a Hail Mary with 1% left on the phone.
Yeah,
I heard from my wife and she Oh sweet is that okay, but here's here's what I'm doing.
I'm getting steps in I'm getting steps in at Walmart last night.
I Walked by this dude who's easily in his 40s and his neck is covered with hickeys Yeah
40s don't you graduate past Hickeys when you're in your mid-teens?
Well, I don't I mean
What's this guy doing walking around Walmart?
I don't know.
I mean, I sleep or God.
We don't know.
We whatever regardless of partner.
Here's what we know Do getting some lovin there
you get some action.
Yeah, yeah, and maybe that was the thing is he likes it cuz like we grew up
Pete with those TV shows where a kid gets a hickey and it's the almighty worst thing that's ever happened like like I gotta stay home from school I'm gonna be so embarrassed not this guy this guy's like I'm 45 I live in my mom's basement.
I got some action last night I want to show everyone in this Walmart and he did
I think that's exactly and you know what it has a probably a domino effect where if there are other women that he finds attractive they might see then go
Oh, damn, he's off the market.
Look at those Hickeys.
I
bet I could
give him a better Hickey.
He's
so Hickey-able.
That's a neck you want to suck.
It's horrible.
I felt bad for this guy.
I'm like, come on, dude, let me buy you an Almond Joy or something.
Let me buy you a turtleneck.
Yeah,
right.
I had that kind of money, too.
I could afford a Walmart turtleneck or a Dickie.
Oh man.
Oh, that's funny.
I forgot.
Yeah, it was crazy.
I didn't think people,
I
didn't think adults still did that, but you know, hey, everyone's going back in time for something.
Kids are listening to CDs and VHS tapes now.
So, you know, maybe guys like, you know what?
It's a Wednesday night.
I got to get some hickeys on this neck.
This neck has got some prime real estate for suction action here.
It was very old school.
I made immediately wanted to go home and make out with my wife.
So that that was
you know,
why'd you?
I mean, I don't want the dirty details.
I'm just I'm just what you brought it up.
Okay.
I Got
the We have a great show tonight folks.
Oh Dom wait, where are we at on our round of applause a budget?
Are you?
Oh, we're we're good on that I checked that last week the line ends are good on that We get we have a lot of applause budget.
It's the problem.
We the problem is we should have been
working out like some applause, some timpani back and forth.
Instead, Dom the timpani master over here is anytime anything happens.
See?
We're going to have to funnel some of those
applause dollars into the timpani fun.
I feel like Dom should just start doing surprise timpani's and then we have just come up with some big announcement.
It doesn't have to be real.
I can just be like, I grew a third arm.
Yeah.
All right.
You don't need something like that.
I don't know.
We know Dom is not siphoning funds out of the timpani petty cash for his haircuts though, because
he's so unfrequently.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Despite
what you've
heard, folks, we have a really good show tonight.
We have coming up at 535, our pal and Civic Media Sports Authority.
Mike Clemens will be here.
He's going to talk Josh Jacobs, Brewer's record setting performance, lots of other stuff too.
We always love talking to Mike.
He'll be here at 535.
And then, ladies and gentlemen, in hour number two, it is Thursday.
And that means one thing, it is the Night Light Movie Club.
And tonight's film that we are going to break down and discuss is The Outsiders, that classic S.E.
Hinton adapted Francis Ford Coppola movie.
Really, you know, iconic film I would say launched a
bunch
of careers
and it was
fun to watch it again as an older person too, not when I was in my 20s or even teens.
So I'm excited to talk about that with you guys too.
Hopefully you guys will weigh in on the conversation, talk about your favorite characters, your favorite lines or scenes.
We've got we've got a lot to say on that.
So that will be fun.
Did you guys get a chance to rewatch the film?
I did
watch it today.
And
was that your first time, Dom?
I can't remember.
That was my second time.
And I also read the book as well.
But yes, this was my second time.
I just rehashed.
It was pretty good.
Outstanding.
Nice.
We also have a really fun, I think, question of the night.
So maybe we should get to that.
Let's do it.
What is a bad habit you wish you could kick?
We've all got them This question tonight was inspired by our senior producer Tucker Lagersky who found the statistic crazy statistic that in China where most of the world is cutting back on smoking China is increasing by like 50% the amount of smokers they have my goodness No idea what to attribute that to other than maybe smoking
looking cool
Talk more about that when we discuss the outsiders.
Let me tell you.
Speaking of smoking,
yeah.
But that is our question of the night.
What is a bad habit you wish you could quit?
855-752-484-285-575 Civic.
Let us know what you think.
Texas on the app.
If you're watching the radio on the stream over YouTube, Facebook, or ex Twitter, drop us a stream comment and tell us a habit you would like to quit.
I got a good one.
You guys are going to love it.
What can
you do with Hickeys?
I got a
good
one.
I want to quit Hickeys.
I wish I could quit.
Oh my gosh.
This isn't surprising at all, but this was on the New York Times website.
A 60 minutes journalist who accused CBS of political meddling is losing her deal.
So apparently a reporter
excuse me, Sharon Alfonzi, who's been with 60 minutes for some time now for many, many years is no longer in contract and was pulled.
And this was the person who had the story regarding the Salvadorian prisons that was pulled off the air last December.
Right.
She has not been met with a new contract.
She still works for CBS and for 60 minutes, but they have not responded to her management team about, or sorry, her agents were inquiries regarding like a new contract.
Basically, she's kind of living month by month, if you will, if we're speaking in apartment terms.
But this is just another step in the bad direction CBS has been taking since Barry Weiss took over that joint.
I mean, it's been bad.
Yeah, it's and Barry Weiss created something called the free press.
I don't know if it's a podcast.
I think it was a podcast or a Some type of publication, but it's it's ironic like that in I woke up this morning Greg to headline headlines a text from around the company saying 60 minutes is dead or is done and I was like what and I but it was a figure of speech obviously, but this is really
Yeah, it's big news.
I mean, do people still watch?
What has this done to the ratings since Skydance Paramount took over?
Well, it says here in the article that their reigns have gone up 9% this year and that the owner, David Ellison, son of Larry Ellison, you know, the guy who fired 30,000 of his employees over email.
This is all part of a major transition in CBS and 60 minutes.
I know CBS radio is gone now.
Excuse me.
And it looks like they're trying to bring in people to help steer the ship of 60 minutes, whatever that may mean.
I, it just seems like a bad, bad move for this show and for this historic news company.
And speaking of 60 minute or I'm sorry, CBS news, a regular contributor.
Formerly, Mike Clemens will be here after the news at the bottom of the hour.
We'll come back and we're going to talk about some new ratings numbers for Stephen Colbert's replacement.
That's next.
It's nightlight with Pete and Greg.
Hey, welcome back.
This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba and Greg Bach.
We are joined, as always, by Dom Lee, who is working the board in producing the show for Madison.
This is, folks, for one night only, a Hickey-free zone.
There will be no Hickeys on tonight's show.
We've already discussed it.
We moved past it.
And I just want to reiterate that.
I can't stress that enough.
Our question of the night is, what is that bad habit you wish you could quit?
This is inspired by...
the country of China actually, where they are adding smokers at an astronomical rate while the rest of the world is cutting back.
I don't get it either, but that's our question tonight.
So share with us if you would please a bad habit you're trying to quit.
You can text us at 855-752-4842-855-75CIVIC or you can text us on the app or leave us a stream comment like Laura Lee just did, checking to make sure we are here and we are here, guys.
Laura Lee out there, Laura Lee, Laura Lee.
You can also listen to us on the Civic Media app as well.
That way you don't have to worry about the radio station.
So yeah.
In case
you're not getting
good signal.
And she also, let's just say this right now.
She gave us an answer to the question of the night, which is, I wish to quit Derek Van Orden.
Amen, sister.
Amen.
Good Lord.
What is the, what would you quit?
Just.
like dooms for forcing yourself to read.
Him being
Congressman, him being Congressman, being any part of the federal government, I would just like for him to not be in government anymore.
Get a podcast.
I don't care.
And Laura Lee says, I love radio.
I love that she texted that in as well.
And she says we're supposed to ask her mother why or her last name or her Laura Lee is pronounced Lee.
So if you want to get your mother to call in, we'd be happy to talk to her and set her straight even if that's what that's what you want.
I'm not getting it.
Go to bat for you.
Greg, there's another story that I, this one is a shocker, because this guy is usually so humble, he rarely tries to get press or any kind of headlines, but our
president- Oh, the president,
sorry about that.
No, no, no, not the weekend crime guy.
President Trump could soon, his face, according to NPR, could soon appear on a $250 commemorative bill in celebration of the 250th anniversary.
And all I can say about this is, it doesn't surprise me,
And I'm sure it will come across as well.
It was the treasury's idea.
He had nothing to do with it.
But I will say that those $250 bills are going to be so vandalized.
It will be almost fun to come into possession of one and see what people drew on that $250 bill.
It will not be safe for radio.
That's for darn sure.
No.
I mean, if you read this article in the Washington Post about this, first of all, this article ended up being a lot longer than I expected.
Yeah.
But.
It's really, this is, I mean, it, it, it should go without saying, but this is really just the sucking up of the sucking ups.
Like it's just, we need to put his face on it first.
Okay.
First of all, there is a law that says you cannot put living people's faces on the bills, which goes back all the way to, I think it said in like the 1800s, when some mid-level person put their face on a coin and they're like, well, can't do that anymore.
This is why we can't have nice things.
But, and the, and the late, and there was a woman.
who stood up and said, her name is Patricia Patty Salamine.
She stood up and said, look, you can't do this.
There's a law against it.
It has to go through Congress if you want to put his face on it.
And it also takes between six to eight years to come up with a new bill, especially for something of this value.
And what did they do?
They reassigned her from the Treasury Department.
Really?
Oh,
yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't think they would go so far as to break the law.
So I think this will probably go away quietly.
Well, I mean, the bill, the bill that will allow this to happen has been languishing in the Congress.
But now, of course, Trump wants to bring it up again, because anything not to talk about Iran, anything not to talk about the Epstein files, anything to not talk about the big bill for billionaires.
But yeah, I mean,
First of all, we don't, there's a reason why we don't have those large bills anymore.
We used to have $500,000 bills back in the day.
We don't need them.
And also it just looks like you can put a picture of him smiling on there or
don't
put a picture.
I guess the presidents aren't smiling on the dollar bills, but like he just looks so ominous.
He always has to look so ominous.
Like he's trying to be a tough guy.
Yeah.
Or really he's just maybe, I don't know, saying like, oh, this is a room full of really, really cool people.
I want to
Weird out you said something about I think it was the Epstein files.
What what is that?
I haven't you never heard
that?
Oh, it's a
very long.
It's a very long document that's sitting on someone's desk right now with a bunch of black swipes through it that people will never know about Whoa?
That was your voice I was Greg singing or humming the
A better segue for this next story probably would have been after we discussed CBS in 60 Minutes.
But this is Colbert.
The ratings are in from Colbert's first night.
He was off the air after last Thursday.
The late show went dark permanently.
And there are ratings, as we all know, we've talked about it on the show.
Byron Allen and his company Byron Allen Media, I believe it's called, purchased that time from CBS and Paramount Skydance.
And he is putting his show, Comics Unleashed, in that time slot.
The ratings for Stephen Colbert on his last broadcast were 6.7 million.
Not that skewed, because it was his last broadcast.
There was a lot of hype.
But typically, he averaged 2.5 to 3 million viewers a night.
Which
is amazing for
late night.
Which is amazing.
And shows the hypocrisy of there were no ratings issues.
However, this Byron Allen, who I don't dislike.
He's not Stephen Colbert.
He pulled a 995,000, not even a million viewers in his first show.
And his target demographic or the target demographic, 18 to 49, he only pulled, he got, there was like a 95% drop off.
He didn't beat reruns of Kimmel and Fallon.
Right.
That's
huge
too.
Yeah.
And here's the thing that really kind of stuck with me really quick before we have to go to the news break here.
When asked about this, he said, I'm not trying to, I'm not trying, he said, not everyone's going to love me.
Not everyone's going to love the fact that I'm not being racist or anti-Semitic or sexist.
What?
Did you just accuse Colbert of being racist, sexist and anti-Semitic?
And then he goes on to say,
He's like, I'm doing my thing and people are rolling with you.
I learned that at an early age.
And by the way, it's simple.
It's a simple lesson that made me a billionaire.
Okay.
All right.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
You got some
scratch to your name.
But man, seriously, it's such a weird thing.
Yeah, it'd be interesting to see what happens.
All right, Mike Clemens is here, folks.
He is the Civic Media Sports Authority.
Coming up after the news, we're going to talk Packers, Brewers, and all kinds of fun stuff.
We love having Mike on the show.
This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba and Greg Bach on the Civic Media Network.
Welcome back to Night Light on this Thursday night, a beautiful Thursday night in the state of Wisconsin.
Peach Waba, Greg Bach, and Dom Lee coming to you live from the Civic Media Network.
This is a fun show, folks.
We got a great question tonight.
What is a bad habit you wish you could quit?
855-752-4842-8557-5CIVIC.
You can also text us on the Civic Media app or drop us a stream comment if you're watching the radio on Facebook.
Twitter.
Yes, I said Twitter or YouTube, but be part of the show.
Coming up in hour number two is Nightlight Movie Club, folks.
And our movie this week is The Outsiders.
The Francis Ford Coppola film adapted from the S.E.
Hinton, very famous S.E.
Hinton novel that they still read in schools to this day.
Pretty amazing.
So right now, though, without further ado, we're going to switch to our first guest of the evening.
He joins us now as he so often does.
Over the phone, he is the Civic Media Sports Authority, Mr. Mike Clements.
Hey buddy, how are ya?
Good, I tell ya, the habit I gotta stop is just, you know, 2 a.m.
and finally leave in the ballpark after following my stories and stuff and get in the car and turning on one of the Civic Media stations and it's the replay of Nightlight.
And now I'm up till 4 o'clock in the morning listening.
Please don't ever quit, Mike.
Yeah, please You know you can go to civicmedia.us slash shows go to nightlight download episodes listen to that your leisure Mike you don't have
to stay
You'll find it How are you buddy?
Good except I'm in Green Bay and for an extended period of time and I can't help but be honest with you This is a tough story to cover because I know the guy
I thought I did.
Who knows?
Who knows?
All I know is that Matt LaFleur has a real problem on his hands because a guy who rushed for over 900 yards last year, even with a bad knee injury and scored 13 touchdowns, may not be there in his roster this year and that's the running back Josh Jacobs.
That is crazy.
Now he's denying the charges as I understand it.
He was released.
What happens next, Mike?
I mean, obviously can't participate in any Packer activities, I would assume.
I'll give you a timeline.
It's 8.37 on Saturday morning.
And in the suburb of Hobart, a little west of the stadium, a lot of players
and
coaches live in that area.
Police are dispatched.
They interview the people involved.
One of them turns out to be Packers running back Josh Jacobs, 28 years old.
Clean record, he had a DUI in Vegas about five years ago.
Then they, after they talk to these people, they spend three days to investigate this, and then they come back with five charges.
Domestic abuse, physical strangulation, and suffocation, that's a felony charge.
Property damage, whatnot.
And it's my understanding from what I've been told that then Jacobs turned himself in Tuesday.
And now the crisis has started.
Now, we talked to LaFleur yesterday, and I think that Jacobs called into the Packers and said, hey, man, I just had this incident talking with police.
Okay, keep us posted.
So he spent the night in jail in the Brown County Courthouse on Tuesday night.
And then on Wednesday, the Packers said, okay, look, this is our media day here at the OTAs, the off-season program.
We're going to shut down the locker room to reporters because this was not everybody's mind.
It was a kind of a bombshell and what to do, what to say.
There's nothing else to talk about, you know?
I mean, come on.
So even though we want to talk to some of these new free agents they've got.
So we went to Matt LaFleur and he held his press conference and here's how that went.
Wow, that's it.
Yeah, talk about a tough position for a coach to be in did he answer that question like Satisfactorily Mike like he kind of said there's a lock that's gonna happen and that's true, but How do you think he answered that was that was that did that suffice?
Well from the team standpoint and I can go by you know my experience in covering these things 20 years ago 20 years ago running back ironically.
I'm on green
woke up on a Saturday morning, got into a fight with his then wife, he punched a hole in the wall, the plaster wall, dry wall, outside the garage door, police came, interviewed, I believe he was taken away, arrested, and it wasn't until the following year that they had a court case.
And so that was kind of hanging over his head, and eventually those charges were dropped.
The league had different
different policies back then, because a lot of bad situations, some caught on videotape, have changed some of the league's policies.
So right now, there's one thing that could happen is that if they do file these charges,
because
what the DA does, they drop the charges, says, we need more investigation before we decide if we can actually go to court with these charges.
We need to do some more background before we put these charges on.
To me, something happened, right?
Something must have happened.
And enough that the officers and the Hobart Lawrence Police Department said, hey, this guy should report to jail.
The DA is like, all right, well, here's some things that maybe you didn't check.
Maybe they didn't get the security camera video.
Who knows?
Who knows?
So that's where it lies.
But for the team, there's a thing called where the commissioner has the commissioner's exemplarist.
where the player can no longer play or practice, but he continues to get paid until he gets his court date.
So I mean, it would be amazing if at this point he's actually going to be able to come back and play and go back to a regular season.
That would be an amazing discovery by the DA's office, I would
think.
Correct me if I'm wrong Mike, and I don't know if I heard you or Stuart J Waddle saying it on a news report that at this point there wasn't evidence to to file They found charges, but like at this point there's not enough evidence to go forward if I heard that wrong, please correct me, but like It seemed like that's what I may have heard on the radio itself.
So please clear it up for me.
Okay.
All right
That's the statement we got from the district attorney.
We
said, you know, there's too many gaps here.
There's things that we need to follow up.
We know.
And that actually happens in a lot of these kinds of cases.
So it's not just because it's a football player.
It's standard in those kinds of cases in an attorney that I talked to that define that for him.
No, this is kind of standard procedure in these situations.
And I've heard some things, Greg.
I'm not going to talk about them because I've done
it too
many times.
And it's not until I have that police report in my hot little land that I will talk about what I know so far.
And when I went to the clerk yesterday, it's like ongoing investigation.
When that happens, then we'll be able to provide that report to you.
OK, gotcha.
That's the voice of Mike Clements.
He is an outstanding sports reporter and our sports authority here at Civic Media.
He joins us tonight to talk Packers.
And Mike, should we pivot here and move to some Brewers news?
There's some great things going on with the Brewers.
On Memorial Day, I'm at the ballpark and it's the Brewers against the Dodgers.
Well, no, the Cardinals, the first game of the Cardinals series.
And Jacob Mizorovsky, the Miz.
there on yeah and he's throwing the heat 100 101 102 103 which he's you know done before he ends up throwing like 57 out of 96 pitches over 100 miles an hour and you know you start thinking of names like you know Walter Johnson who was you know back at the Ty Cobb era or Bob Felton for Cleveland in the 40s you know or Nolan Ryan Nolan Ryan could throw it 105 whatever
And of course they didn't have radar guns in some of those areas, right?
But this is, you know, as measured as possibly can be.
It was an epic performance.
And so we went to the MIS afterwards and talked about his, you know, his endurance to take that into the seventh inning the other day.
I just love that.
I just like playing, I just love playing, but playing baseball is just really, really fun.
Mike, I have a question for you.
And granted, none of us are sports doctors.
We're not managers.
We don't play for the team or any teams for that matter.
But, and, and it's great to see someone that young throw so much heat.
But after a while, that's going to start to take a toll.
He's not going to be, of course he can't do it every single game, but you also have to learn how to parse that sort of speed out to use it.
well instead of just throwing all the time because it's going to come to the point where your body is going to not be able to do it and your body is also going to be.
Harshly impacted by throwing so hard so many times
right when we talked to the manager Pat Murphy about that great because like I know you and Aaron Rodgers is said throwing football.
It starts with your feet and you work up you know through your body to get the most velocity on a ball and Murphy says that you know good pitching starts with the feet and the legs.
Yeah, and so on.
And then I went to Christian Yellich about this because he, Murphy says, you know, he's told me before, like, Abner Uribe, and it's great that he threw on 103 his first night out there as a relief pitcher.
He says, but he says, fast balls get hit in the major leagues.
You've got to move the ball around.
But Yellich says, you know what he's doing is that he's hitting the strike zone.
So when you're hitting the strike zone that consistently, you got to honor it.
This is how Yellich broke it down.
And baseball's so cool because you go right in the office and sit down and talk to the manager.
And I'm talking to the Cardinals manager, Oliver Marl, just after this historic performance by The Miz on Monday in the Brewers 5-1 win.
And I'm asking him, I said, what's he doing?
And you can hear, you turn up your radio, it sounds like an old Martin Short bit on 60 Minutes where he's like, I don't know what you're talking about.
What do you mean?
What do you say?
This is the Cardinals manager.
Alan, I'm trying to ask him to break down what he just
saw.
Ha ha ha.
All right, we're going to break this clip down.
This clip comes compliments of our guest, Mike Clemens.
We're going to break it down.
We come back after a very short break.
We'll have a few more minutes with our pal, Mike Clemens.
It's Nightlight with Pete and Greg on the Civic Media Network.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, sorry.
It was the same.
Hey, welcome back to nightlight folks.
I am Pete Schwabba joined as always by Greg Bach and We are in the middle of a great conversation with our pal Mike Clemens who covers sports so well here at Civic Media We just heard a clip of Cardinals manager Ali Marmel talking about Mizorowski and how he throws Mike that was a great clip.
But do you ever just start cracking up in the locker room?
You must
oh No, I laugh in the concourse
Well
done.
And then I look at the record, like, did I get all that?
Are you kidding me?
That is gold, brother.
That is gold.
That is great.
It was just great.
Like, are we done yet?
Are we done now?
What do you want?
Quote?
Yeah, I saw him pitch.
So, you know, one story today, by the way, is in baseball.
is they're working on a new CBA.
They got eight months to get this done so they don't have a stoppage in baseball next spring during spring training or God forbid the baseball season.
They're talking about a floor, not a salary cap, but a floor that teams would have to spend at least $150 million on their payroll for players and the brewers are under that currently.
Yes, they
are.
They've got a lot of negotiations.
When you get down to the money and the egos and all the negative things you hear on Friday night, the defending world champion, LA Dodgers are in town.
Logan Henderson, kid's been working his way up.
It's getting his second or third start for the first.
He's on the mound against
the world
champs.
He's only pitched a couple of games in the show.
And Freddie Freeman, veteran, got the ring.
First baseman.
A tough hitter.
He comes up to the plate, and I'm looking at one of the monitors, and I go, did I just see that?
It looked like, before he got into the box, he nodded his cap like, hello, kid.
Like, welcome, kid.
Like, oh, come on.
Oh.
That's
cool.
So
after the game, so then Logan struck him out.
It was his first that bad, and he had a good game.
They won the game that night.
I went to the clubhouse, and after the scrum, and Logan was still there, I said, can I ask you one more question?
Did Freddy Freeman give you like a hello note?
He goes, yeah, I know, I caught that, yeah, no.
Then I went to Pat Murphy after he got done.
And after the media left the auditorium, I went back up to Murphy and I said, hey, I asked Logan about this.
He said that Freddy's one of the best guys in baseball.
They got a lot of good guys over there in that Dodgers team.
Then I got over and we talked to the Dodgers and we get done in the office with Dave Roberts.
And I said the same thing to Dave because Freddy's one of the best, man.
So then, when I get out in the clubhouse, and there's like 30 reporters there from NHK, the Japanese network, because they have such
a
following for Shohei Otani, you
know?
And Yamamata, their pitcher.
So there's this huge, like, look at all these people here, they're on the road.
And
they're
all around Freddie Freeman.
When he gets on talking, I go, Freddie, can I ask you one more question?
Sure, sure, what is it?
And I told him, did I see that?
And here's the answer he gave me.
Mike
that was an
amazing catch right there.
No
pun
intended, but that was a really good catch on your part, too Like I wonder how many people actually saw that happening and deduced they're like, oh, it was a it was a moment between two professionals
Yeah, I mean isn't that good stuff?
I mean that's that's why that's the best part of these things of
these games.
I love baseball That's fantastic, and I'm excited about the new CBA because it'll be nice to see Ohtani get some real money
if they can read the grocery at that time.
I mean, nutty, nutty night out of
the town
money.
I mean, what, what is, what is Mark?
What's Mark onto not so going to do?
He's actually going to have to spend money.
Now, if this is the case, they were spending money 10 years ago.
Now they're like, they're far below the medium median.
And this could, what is there any problems you foresee with this?
Listen, they've lost $20 million.
when FanDuel went belly up, okay?
And people say, well, you know, the franchise is worth four or five billion dollars, what's 20 million?
I had it explained to me, you own a house and it's bought and paid for.
And the HVAC goes out, you're writing a check for 15, 20 grand, you know?
Hello?
And it says, how much do you think the grounds crew costs every year, you know?
or this group or that stuff or all those people they got on TV, $20 million is $20 million.
It's
a lot.
It's true.
There's a lot of
market.
Yeah, absolutely.
So we got about a minute left, Mike.
The division with the Brewers and the Cardinals and the Cubs and the Reds, there's a lot of streaks.
The Cubs just had a huge losing streak after a big winning streak.
The Brewers have had winning and losing streaks.
What is happening in this division?
Who do you think is positioned properly right now?
Craig Council's had trouble putting healthy starting pitchers on but he's also had a you know a poor hitting streak as well and they should have been able to hit their way through this period.
Pat Murphy is not only himself
He's got an unbelievable coaching staff, Pete.
I'm telling you, they keep on finding these 24, 25-year-old guys.
How about Kyle Harrison, who was doing nothing in the Red Sox game?
You want him?
Go ahead, have him.
That's what
we do with the Brewers.
And they moved him six inches to the left on the rubber.
The pitching coach,
Rick
Hook, looked at him and said, try this.
Move six inches to your left.
And now he's throwing strikes.
It's coaching, man.
It's
coaching.
What the brewers do it's what we did with Andrew Vaughan.
It's what we do and I love it
And it's nice that you guys have Mizorovsky under contract too.
It's already 31 or no.
No, what's that?
Mike thank you so much as always my friends stay safe out there on the roads I know you drove through hell getting to Green Bay the other day But thank you for as always for taking the time to join us buddy
You
too, Mike.
You too.
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Hello.
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This is a Hickey free zone tonight.
No, I stopped it.
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It's been really awkward.
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Yeah, that's all right
That
was convincing.
Wow, that was really convincing.
It's fine.
I'm just out of breath.
I
am.
Whenever I talk sports with Mike, it's as close as I get to being an athlete.
So, little winded.
Are you on the IL
list now?
I tore my MCL during meal.
I pulled my MC Hammer and it was awful.
And they're like, oh my gosh.
You could pull worse things.
And I was like, don't touch that.
That's not the name of the song at all.
I screwed that up completely.
That's fine.
That's fine.
That's what happens on live radio.
We make our, we make our, we make our jokes.
Sometimes they work.
Sometimes it's a pizza farm.
You never know.
But what you can do.
Yeah.
We, we have ourselves a great question of the night and let's, let's do two things.
Let's play the music.
We'll restate the question and then we'll do a third thing.
I want Pete to talk about the origins of the question of the night.
So let's hit
the
music first.
Let's talk about the question.
Okay, question.
Question.
Question.
Pregunta.
Question.
Question.
Okay, I have a question.
Questions.
This question.
Domanda.
Question.
Question.
Questions.
What is a bad habit you wish to quit?
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What is a bad habit you wish to quit?
Pete, do me a favor.
Tell us where this came from tonight.
Okay.
So our senior producer, Tucker Lagersky shared some information with us about how cigarette smoking in China has taken off.
It's increased by like over 50% people.
are still finding smoking.
The numbers are growing, whereas over the rest of the world, across the rest of the world, they're decreasing.
And I thought that was interesting.
And, you know, I don't, I mean, that's a bad habit, right?
Smoking is probably one of the worst you could have, do
to
yourself at
least.
This is a really, I mean, like what it says here, it says, China rose 39% between 2020, 2003 and 2023.
even as it fell 26% in the rest of the world, this is the part that blows my mind.
The China national tobacco corporation, which by the way is a stunning sexy title for any, any company generated roughly 244 billion with a B dollars in profit and tax revenue in 2025.
I get 50% from, yeah, that's a lot of money though.
That's still a lot of people smoking dude.
I mean, like, yeah, it says,
About 7% of national government revenue and nearly nearly what China says it spends on defense.
I mean that is
Check this out the 2.4 trillion cigarettes Sold in China each year account for nearly half of the global total Like what's the deal?
I guess Chinese cigarettes I think are a little different than regular cigarettes.
I know this because my father-in-law
used to be involved in the Chinese cigarette outfit.
I didn't ask questions.
There's no way you can say that.
It doesn't sound like he's just finding cigarettes falling off a truck.
I thank you.
I know and
I think it sounds awesome.
But as I understand it, he wasn't doing anything illegal.
I don't know what contest.
Maybe he just tested them.
I have no idea, but it's, those are staggering numbers.
Have you ever smoked?
I have.
I have.
Well.
Whoa.
Is Mrs. Lee listening
right now?
I know my dad is, but I don't know about anyone else, but that's all I'm going to say.
I'm just going to leave it at that.
Well, it led us to our question here tonight.
What is a bad habit you wish you could quit?
Pete let's
start with you.
I don't know if this is as unhealthy as smoking, but it's definitely doom-scrolling I have
a
tendency to go to bed holding my phone at night I like to watch a sitcom and and have a laugh before I fall asleep Usually I fall asleep picking out the sitcom like I'm asleep that fast and then in the morning I try so hard Not to go to my phone, but I
do I'm
in bed for an extra 20 minutes and you know, I really wish I don't
I appreciate the technology and what smartphones can do, but I am a little addicted to mine and I don't like that part of it.
And I try
to set a
good example for my kids.
They put your phones down, but I have trouble with it too.
So I would say that's what I wish I could
quit.
I'm about to out my mother right now.
My mother used to be very much like, put your phones down.
Put your phones down.
And then one day she was at the table and she was just staring at her iPad.
And I just was staring at her and I'm like, put your iPad down.
Oh, I'm a sassy boy.
I'm a sassy boy.
Greg's a sassy boy.
Um, I mean, yeah, no, honestly, dude, I, okay, I'm not a doctor and I'm not going to say that doom scrolling or being on your device is as bad as smoking.
But I do think it, I actually just, I read a statistic, uh, for, for something, it said that when you look down at your phone, you're putting like 60 pounds of pressure on your neck.
you're putting
a lot
like when you're staring down at your phone it can do damage over time and you know it there whether it's your eyes whether it's your body there are repercussions to being addicted to your device and I don't think that's something you should just say well it's not the same as smoking yeah it's not but it's also something yeah I think a lot of people
Understand especially nowadays Dom.
What
about you?
I want to switch my answer now because Pete that was really good But I would have to say energy drinks.
I'm a big energy drinker and
it's
not it's not a habit It's it's not a good habit to have but I I I think I take one every single day.
It's usually Red Bull But I gotta get I gotta get off that I gotta get off it is there
I know, I don't know about you guys and this happened to me once when I was getting really into coffee, not really into coffee, I was just drinking coffee.
But if you start, let's say tomorrow, Dom, you just stopped doing energy drinks and you either like took some, like took a different drink, but it's just no longer a red bill or anything like that.
Do you think your body would have a reaction?
I know, I asked because people who drink a lot of coffee when they try to stop, they'll get.
Really bad headaches
100% 100 my mood is would would change I would probably wake up way later I'd stay in bed I'd probably doom scroll more like there's probably a lot of negative effects if I like get off of it It's not like I take it like so so much not like a massive amount, but it's pretty much every day So I yeah, I think it'll probably you only have wanted you only have one a day one a day one a day, but it's every day Seven days a week.
That's honestly, that's not I don't think that's an addiction.
I know I'll probably switch to coffee it would be
healthier tea but yeah I mean I've just been told that energy drinks are are worse than coffee due to just the teeth and everything else associated with it I don't know I don't know so do you guys ever hate hate scroll
like
I find myself Pete who are you talking to right now I'm
am I near honestly I'm just like I cannot get over sometimes the things people post and I
It's not like they're doing anything wrong, but when you're flaunting your good fortune.
Listen, I have Facebook friends and probably Instagram friends too across a wide array of financial backgrounds and all kinds of stuff.
And I've caught myself going, I don't wanna post.
Like I'll post stuff if I'm proud of my kids, but I don't wanna say, hey, I don't wanna rub people's noses in it.
And other people, I find myself getting really irritated, like really.
There's no middle class anymore.
A lot of people are struggling.
You don't need to post this now.
We know
you're doing
well.
It just
bothers me.
I mean, I understand what you're saying.
There's something I always look at it from this point of view of why are they posting it?
Are they doing it to make themselves feel better?
Are they doing it for the adulation, the congratulations, the likes, the whatever, the hearts?
And to me, that's a bigger...
like the addiction of posting your, your victories when maybe like there are other things in your life that aren't so satisfactory.
So
you got to say
things like, I just scored a new car.
It's like, Hey man, you got a new car.
That's great.
But when it's
in a bragging tone as it sounds like what you're saying to me, it sounds like the person or people who are doing it are more trying to just say, like, look at me, accept me, validate, validate my whatever.
And, and, and, you know, it's kind of, I find it to be a little sad.
kind of insensitive.
Yeah.
Well, not even, I mean, it's, I don't look at it as insensitive on their part.
They can do whatever they want.
It's their, it's their social media page.
They can say whatever they'd like.
But when it's the thing of like the constant, like it's one side of it is the, they're always doing something amazing.
They're always living life to the fullest.
And you're like, okay, what's really going on here?
Or it's constantly just boohoo me.
Like,
It's nothing but a barrage of just like self-indulgent whining where it's just like feel sorry for me Someone has done me wrong against like dude.
Really dude, right?
So yeah, I mean I always look at it from a point of view like that I don't like I when I hate scroll I'm hate scrolling like politics That's why I can't even go on my Twitter account anymore.
My Twitter account is garbage at this point.
It's just absolute
Poison at this point.
So
that was one of our our responses on social media.
Mike Dessital said responding to political posts Daniel said, yeah, buddy, you got that right that for
a
while like when all social media started I did that constantly and I found myself typing non-stop because people come out of the woodwork and it's
like
I can't do
this and and I had to keep telling myself as I'll point I'll type out these long responses and I realized this might be a I don't know this person this could be a bot
Yeah,
what am I wasting my time with this?
And yeah, I understand completely what you're saying.
And speaking of comments on the live stream and or Facebook and or the text line, we're going to have to get back to that in just a little bit.
We'll come back, get in the movie club.
We'll do a couple of your responses.
We'll get through them throughout the show.
But we want to hear from you.
What is a bad habit you wish you could break or quit?
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This is the Nightlight Movie Club.
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We are officially in the movie club, which we do every single Thursday in the second hour.
We watch a movie.
We talk about the movie.
We hope you've watched the movie and we hear from you.
If you want to get in touch with us on the film tonight, it's Francis for Coppola's The Outsiders based off the Essie Hinton.
That's a hard name to say.
Essie Hinton, Essie Hinton.
Yeah.
It's like
Chwaba.
They
don't
roll together.
Pete Schwab is great.
Pete Schwab.
Pete Chwaba brought it back to me.
I know you did.
That's a good job, buddy.
Good
job.
No, but Greg Bach has that hard.
Greg Bach, Dom Lee.
Pete Chwaba.
Here, have a dessert.
It's just, eh, I got to change it.
Did I just kill the momentum for a movie?
I
mean, I mean,
uh, all right.
So
we're, this is the movie club or as we call it Pete's therapy session.
No, we're telling me about your Mazda.
Uh, so we're talking about, we're talking about the outsiders, but we do this every single Thursday in the second hour, pick a movie and we watch it.
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But yeah, I have not watched this movie in a very long time.
So it came out in 1983.
It's listed as a coming of age crime drama film, which I'd never heard
anyone
call it that before.
This
is
Wikipedia.
It's directed by Francis Ford Coppola, written by Kathleen Newton-Rowell.
and based off the novel by Essie Hinton.
And I don't know about you.
Like we've talked about this before.
Like we all had to read the book in school.
Dom is still, Dom had to read the book.
What grade were you when you read it?
I was freshman in high school.
So, yeah.
I was in seventh grade when we read it.
And that was like one of the first assigned books I actually read.
Yeah, same.
I think I was in seventh grade as well.
Yeah.
It's remarkable that.
They still make kids read this book.
I mean, it's a good book and it's yeah, it's great That's kind of how I felt watching it like this is a great like you just said crime drama for kids You know, it's still kind of watches like I enjoyed it again, but it's definitely for kids.
Yeah, I mean Well, first of all, let's just start with the cast
I mean, we'll get into the, the, the nuts and bolts of the actual film itself, but this is literally a who's who of people who would dominate Hollywood for the next, I mean, in, in a lot of these cases for the next 40 plus years.
Yeah.
See Thomas Howell is pony boy Curtis.
Ralph Machio is Johnny Matt Dylan, who by the way, never a better person to play a hood than Matt Dylan.
He has resting
hood face.
Oh, exactly.
He's always,
yeah.
Patrick Swayze, Rob Lowe, Emilio Estevez, Tom Cruise, and probably his last film ever where he was a side guy.
No kidding.
And then Leif Garrett's in it, who, if you don't know who he is, ask your me, Ma.
And then Diane Lane.
There are other people in it.
Tom Waits is in the film, but like Diane Lane is in this film.
It's just, it is before it was, before they were famous, this was a star studded event.
Studios would pay millions of millions of dollars to get people of this caliber nowadays.
Yeah, you couldn't do it with these.
I mean, it's incredible.
And what I noticed too when I was watching it, they're all pretty good actors.
See, Thomas Howell probably had the least recognizable career of any of them, and he was the lead.
And he still has had an amazing career.
He's always turning up and he does really good work.
Rob Lowe was still a bad actor.
This was his feature film debut.
He's tough to watch at times.
Like, I know he's handsome, but oh man, he, there are some times where I'm like, ooh, it's, it's cringe worthy.
Well, and, and I think that like for me watching Tom Cruise play just a greaser slob is hilarious.
Yeah, it was.
And I also wonder if those were his real teeth.
And I, here's the one thing I thought was really funny, like watching the, cause, cause it was one of those old school movies where it was like,
see Thomas Howell as Pony Boy Curtis, or actually it had it like as the Curtis boys and like you found out their names before the movie begins, but you're like Pony Boy, Johnny, Dali, Dairy, Soda Pop, Two Bit, and then Tom Cruise is Steve.
Steve.
Yeah, they nailed that one in.
They don't even call him like Stevie Boy or Randy Randall or something like it's like, here's Two Bit Soda Pop and
Steve
and Steve and that even Diane Lane was cherry.
That's kind of a cool name, but her friend Marsha Steve and Marsha maybe they pair but Marsha the girl who played Marsha Michelle me rank I don't know if I'm saying that right.
She wasn't real genius had a very recognizable face Yeah,
I was so I was watching that I was gonna look that up and I just started to look at this now and I yeah, I was like, okay real genius real talk great
movie absolutely, but
and
Go ahead.
Oh, I was gonna say two other things too is is that it says here that Cam Neely who went on to become an NHL like all all Hall of Famer and Flea from the Red Hot Chili Peppers were in this movie like untitled in the rumble scene and oh wow listed as Domino
Sophia Coppola.
I she is the one who asks them for money and Matt Dillon says get out of here not Matt Damon Matt Dillon Maybe I see Matt Damon when I look at Matt Dillon
And Matt Dylan is so much cooler than Matt Damon and Matt Damon's pretty cool.
I just Matt Dylan You know, I think he wasn't named after the other Matt Dylan I'm gonna smoke.
Maybe I'd get his name right Look at me making excuses.
I got a lot to say about this
movie though.
This is a great
one
We're going to come back in a little bit.
We're going to take a really quick break to the news, but we are officially in the movie club right now talking about the Francis Ford Coppola classic that I call it the classic.
The Outsiders 1983.
We're talking more about the movie itself, more about the cast, our favorite parts.
We've got some clips ready to go and we'll be getting to your text messages on your thoughts regarding the movie as well as the question of the night.
What is a bad habit you want to quit?
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We are talking about Francis Ford Coppola's 1983 crime youth drama thriller, The Outsiders.
Let's just start tacking on more and more genres on it.
Musical.
But we're
talking, exactly, musical extract against a horror.
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We were talking about this over the break during the news break.
The cast itself is just absolutely amazing.
And for me, I have to say that I
Emilio Estevez was the funniest person like he was so he was just constantly laughing and just kooky and weird and Every time he's on screen.
I'm I mean I Didn't laugh the entire movie until That's seen like halfway through or maybe a little bit past halfway where they're in the house and they're getting ready for the rumble and
Emilio just is like he's cracking jokes and then he just pulls out a whole cake and he's sitting there watching TV eating a chocolate cake and drinking beer, but he's just so good so so good
Yeah, he I think they were all good except Rob Lowe and Rob Lowe didn't have a lot of lines So he was passable and he was fine, but you played a dom that mute that song Gloria and I love that opening where they
Uh, it's Matt Dillon and see Thomas Holland Ralph Machio walking and they encounter the rumble and glorious playing and they're walking the streets of Tulsa.
It's just a great energetic opening kind of opening scene.
Um, but I, I agree, Greg.
Emilio Esaviz is good and funny.
I also think Matt Dillon was really funny, uh, as evidenced by this clip that I shared with Dom earlier when they're at the drive-in.
And he's giving Diane Lane's character cherry a hard time and she literally lays into him even though he's kind of a scary dude and this is his response
No, I didn't know you had this problem with yelling in my face What a terrible comeback
he has so many lines like that but but you're right, but it's so in character Yeah, and he's a great character too and apparently he was kind of
The glue of the cast like he you know, he's the they're all rebels, but he's the rebel Yeah, it was an interesting hierarchy between the characters because then they got dairy who if you remember in the book They said nobody would mess with not even dally.
Yeah,
and it was just in Patrick Swayze was Perfect for that role.
I don't remember what Patrick Swayze did before that.
I know he worked and had credits But I think that propelled his career as well
I think so as well because I mean that movie came out in 83 and I can't remember exactly when dirty dancing came out, but it was just a few years after that Yeah, 87 1987 87.
Yeah, and the thing is like it was funny because when you know He sure he hits he hits pony boy and he takes off first of all the thing is like in my head this movie takes a lot longer this my head this movie was like a two-hour plus movie and
This movie is paced fast.
Like, it gets into it right away.
They're not screwing around.
They don't wait until the second act to get into, like, the meat of why everything is going on.
It's like, they're going to a movie, and then, oh, my God, he stabs someone to death.
Right, right.
But Patrick Swayze just always looks like him.
Like, in this movie, all of those guys look young.
Patrick Swayze, no offense, he doesn't.
He looks like an adult.
And he does look
older.
And he's just like...
Even though he's not like super built, when you look at him and he's like getting ready for work and he puts his shirt on, you're like, yeah, I can understand why no one would want to fight him.
Not only could he probably beat you up, but he could literally dance around you while he was doing it.
And he could dirty dance around you.
Very much.
I like this movie the most because I think it's a, there's a great message to America that sometimes good looking hearthrobs.
have tough backgrounds.
That's what I took out of the movie.
And no, but it's fun.
Like you heard the word rumble.
I've
heard that
line since like it was in more innocent time where people just showed up and punched each other a few times and everyone went home to fight another day, except Leif Garrett's character who did get stabbed early on.
But I think it holds up.
I like it.
I still like the movie because I'm watching it kind of like I did as a kid.
And it's sort of a safe.
hoodlum world if that makes any sense even though there was a death and johnny dies and dally dies sorry about the spoiler alerts but you've had enough time
um you should have read it for mrs mrs smith's class i'm sorry you didn't read it that's right uh but
i love it and even the it's nice they had a nice uh stay gold the song by uh steve wonder at the beginning and end of the movie book ended
steve wonder
Oh, I got confused with that.
With the top crooks?
That's so weird to be like.
If you say Stevie Wonder, you're like, I know who Stevie, you immediately know who he is.
If you were to say, oh, I love Steve Wonder, you probably think, is he a magician?
Is that a magician or is that a...
Who's Steve Wonder?
I'm thinking Wonder Bread.
There you go.
There's
something I like to do with celebrity names, like when I watch a Sandy Bullock movie.
It's just easier to say it that way, but...
There are also a couple if you guys will indulge me.
I love these Matt Dylan lines as well when he's in the hospital and He he went up to rescue Johnny and Pony boy at the church.
There was a fire Even though they're the greasers they did the right thing and pulled these kids out of a burning church to give them some redeeming qualities, which was nice and
Matt Dillon is very rude to the nurse.
And one of the nurses is Essie Hinton, the writer of the book.
I don't remember, I don't know if this is her or if it was a nurse from a different scene, but this is Matt Dillon giving the nurse a hard time and then saying a very iconic line when he wants to get even with the socios.
What's happened to your gown?
I threw it away.
I'm gonna be so bad
when you're at it.
Get out, just get out.
You're making me make my stomach sick.
You know, we gotta win that fight tonight.
We gotta get in with those socials.
We'll do it for Johnny, man.
We'll do it for Johnny!
Sorry.
It makes you think, like, did they actually talk like that back then?
Were there actually
rumbles?
You know that was like one of the most quotable lines we used to say that as a joke would do
Johnny man do Johnny
put that laugh in that You make my stomach sick like it.
It's
kind of a character and it kind of works.
I love it I like that.
I like when they're they're hauling Dairy or a dally into the hospital and goes if you ever make me do something like that I'll kill you like you was so upset to help children in a burning church
Don, what did you think about this movie?
I thought it was pretty good.
I thought it was pretty good.
There was a lot of good actors.
I knew all of them.
I didn't know where they originated from, so this was pretty cool.
But yeah, I also really liked Emilio.
Most I would say he was probably my favorite character Just like you Greg because he was also in the breakfast club the breakfast club, which we talked about a few weeks back But yeah, it was it was pretty good.
It was very like hard-nosed like I don't know He was like kind of background like I just really liked it.
I really liked it
Yeah, if you one of the reasons why I like Emilio Stavez in this movie so much as his laugh and if you want more of that watch
Young guns one and two.
He is so funny in that movie in those movies there There are almost offensively inaccurate on the facts, but it's they're still great watches and his laugh that he had like he laughs like that It's almost like Eddie Murphy.
There's a very distinct I know that's Emilio Estevez when he laughs like that because it's just that's him Right, that's a great point.
How do you guys how would you guys have felt if Anthony Michael Hall was cast in the role of Pony boy?
I mean... I don't think it works.
I would be fine with it, because that's the only thing I would have known then, you know?
Yeah,
I'm a little more on the clairvoyant side.
I feel like... Yeah, it would be... It is weird though, right?
Because we just watched Vacation, and this came out the same year Vacation did, and he's this really scrawny kid, right?
And
I will say
this... Breakfast Club too,
yeah.
Anthony Michael Hall can act.
Like, even though
it was a
wacky comedy Vacation...
He's still solid, such a solid actor at such a young age.
I don't know.
I mean, like, I think he could, I think he could definitely have pulled off the Johnny role.
I don't think he could have, I don't, I think he could only be Pony Boy or Johnny.
He could never have been any of the other boys, but, or maybe he would, maybe could have been like a, you know, a, a, a junior social, but.
Although it would have been weird to see him come out with black hair and then get his hair dyed blonde because that is like, I only know, I only know Anthony Michael Hall with having blonde hair and now gray hair, but still it's like, yeah, that's an interesting question.
He's rusty.
Griswold, he'll always be rusty.
I mean, he's the kid from weird science for me too.
So I
mean,
Absolutely.
Yeah, that's true.
That too.
This is kind of funny.
I read this.
The actress pulled so many pranks in the hotel where they stayed while shooting the movie.
Several years later, Tom Cruise was introduced to someone who said he worked at the hotel back when they were filming this.
And Tom Cruise just said to him, I'm sorry.
I don't know if they trashed the place or what, but
apparently they had a really good time.
Yeah, I'm sure that Francis Ford Coppola paid that bill then.
What something that's very interesting too is so at the end of the movie there is a dedication to a teacher and I'm sorry a librarian and a class because Coppola didn't want to make this movie He had no interest until he spoke with a woman named Joe Ellen Miss Akean a
school
librarian from Lone Star Elementary School in Fresno, California Who wrote to Coppola on behalf of her seventh and eighth grade students about adapting the movie?
It was there
inquiry and their kind words that actually led him to do this.
He had no interest before this and they were the ones.
So to me, like there's something so beautiful about a class reading this book and then having a good conversation with their teacher or their librarian and saying, write a letter, what could it hurt?
And we got this movie simply because of that.
That's pretty
badass.
On the text line from the 818 Bridget says, the nurse that Dally was talking to in the clip is Essie Hinton, author of The Outsiders.
That's right.
Thank you, Bridget, for
the text.
And John has a very, very...
Straight ahead question for Dom there.
Dom, you like Emilio Estevez best in the Outsider because you liked him in Breakfast Club.
Quite a critique.
Why else is he great in the Outsiders?
I don't
know, because he
was
funny.
Hey, John, he was funny.
He was funny.
There's always got to be a funny guy in certain movies.
And I thought he was that guy.
He played that role really, really well.
And I think I remember when Pony Boy and Emilio were actually talking and then
I think Pony Boy had to go somewhere else or went into the car with a soche.
And yeah, I thought it was pretty funny.
He was like laughing.
I thought it was great.
I thought it
was
great.
I love how
you didn't back down either, because John's holding your feet to the fire and you stuck up for yourself, Tom.
That's fantastic.
He's a
funny guy.
He's a funny guy.
Did you mention, he's a funny guy.
Did you mention Anthony Michael Hall because he was someone who auditioned?
He was either considered or auditioned.
No, it's that he read for the part
of Pony Boy Curtis.
Not just him.
Sorry.
There's a piece of food that just fell out of my teeth and it's very embarrassing I'm doing this right now, but I can't I'm selling thank you Timothy Hutton Sean John Murray.
No.
Yeah, exactly.
That's pretty funny.
He said awesome Timothy Hutton Sean Penn Mickey Rourke Robert Downey Jr.
Anthony Michael Hall Scott Bale Dennis Quaid all audition for roles, but we're not cast Could you I mean that is a huge huge list right there, too.
How do you pass up Sean Penn?
I mean, he did bad boys in the same year and he was outstanding and that is a great movie too.
There you go.
All great stuff.
Thank you so much everyone for joining us in the night.
I must have the nightclub, the movie club here on night light.
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We will do that very soon as well.
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Got into a really big conversation earlier in the show.
So let's get to some of your thoughts, Dom.
The text line is going.
Who is it talking?
Going crazy.
We got Brett from Brown Deer texted in.
He had a few texts.
He said, a 40-year-old guy recently divorced and found a young girl.
Sounds like it's worth the embarrassment.
I think that was in our first segment.
About hickies.
Yeah, about hickies.
I accept.
You want to get hickies, get hickies, man.
As long as it's legal and consensual, get hickies and show the world.
I was trying to make sense of that text.
Now it makes sense, yeah.
He also texted he said I'm not looking to quit any bad habits matter of fact I'm always looking for new bad habits no need to leave behind a handsome corpse.
Love it.
Okay.
Okay.
Wow
Things highly of himself to well
done Brett.
I'm getting hot.
We got Karen from Racine says following political MAGA news and views.
Okay.
Yeah,
I get that completely
doomscrolling
Scrolling about Tyler from Wisconsin Rapids saying a bad habit I would like to delete my contribution to the voracious feeding frenzy of the ever-expanding data centers with silly text messages
I mean if you can't if you have to if you have to text message and you have to do you have to voraciously add to the feeding frenzy Be silly.
That's why I say why not?
This next one hurts
Yeah, we also got Jules, texting in from MDX, and she said, listening to you guys.
Ouch.
She
can't quit us.
We're a hard habit to break.
Please
don't
break us, Jules.
Habit to break.
OK.
What else we got?
We got Barb listening in on WAUK says, I guess I doom scroll.
That means I check media sites for latest political news.
I do listen to an excessive amount of talk radio, but I love the civic radio lineup.
I do take weekends off though.
Thank you
barbie should also listen to amicus a law review is 9 to 11 every Saturday here on civic media.
Sorry.
Go on
make the call.
Yes Let's see John Murray.
He was asking why he said I love you Dom not being funny just struck me the way you said it And then he thanked me appreciate that We also have Joe texting in says two bit was always my favorite character Emilio Estevez
Why is it this book was read, like, for every fifth grader, I think?
Fifth grader?
Wow.
I didn't even, wow, someone went to a very good school.
Yeah.
I achievers.
We got Melissa from Willy Street texting in on WMDX says, my first crush was Emilio Estevez.
Nice.
He's my favorite of
the sheen.
It was Greg and Dom's first crush, too.
John Murray can back me up on that.
What
do we have on Facebook?
Zipping over to Facebook, Stacy Sue says, she wished she could stop eating too many sweets.
Yes, I am with you there, Stacy.
And Bill says, staying up late to listen to Nightlight.
We're late.
So this is either late for Bill or he listens to the rebroadcast like Mike Clemens does.
But either way, please don't stop listening, people.
We love you
to be your bad habit.
Any other, that's all on Facebook?
That's all for Facebook, yep.
We have a couple more on the livestream here.
Laura Lee comes back to us and says, I'm obsessed with DVO.
I follow his media.
I read his emails.
I need help.
I get it.
He's a trash person.
He's terrible.
And I get the addiction too.
One day away.
Just take one day away and see what happens.
You'll feel better about it.
And then finally trumpet Joe on the live stream says terrible habit eating before bedtime.
Uh, yes, that's a bad one trumpet Joe I get that so much it is that is that is that is yes That's my father.
I have if I could share one more I got one more fun fact about the outsiders and I
love
this when people make jokes about like when I used to come out of an audition and or when someone else would come out of an audition They said they said you guys can go home like I nailed it that
that
much and I got the part
Matt Dylan auditioned for the part of Dallas.
Francis Ford Coppola went up to him and told him, you can go home now.
Dylan thought he did not get the part and called his agent and told him he did not receive the role.
Coppola sent him home early because he already knew he was going to cast him as Dallas.
That's gotta be an amazing feeling.
I was, I wouldn't know.
What was I listening?
I was listening to some interview where they were talking about the same thing where like,
the guy they were they were they had cast he said like oh well you're gonna have to move to this country for a few months for the show I think it's for Game of Thrones and no one had told him he actually got the role so he's like why are you guys talking about all this stuff like can someone just tell me what's going on here I wish the story would be a lot better if I remember who was talking but still like
the the plight of the actor to be in limbo and just that anxious place of being at all times where you're like you think you did well you don't get the role you don't think you did well you don't try out or whatever I mean it's just oh it was it was Pedro Pascal it was Game of Thrones he auditioned for his role on the show and they loved him right away but no one was telling him he was hired so he's like they're asking me if I want to move to this country Croatia for like three months I don't understand what's going on like well you must got the role they didn't tell me
Was he in that did he get the role I very briefly like he has he has probably one of the most spectacular deaths ever in Game of Thrones, okay thumbs in the eyes Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah head just goes
So I was gonna say that'd be the only role he never got cuz he's in everything.
Oh boy.
Are you getting a little Pedro out?
No, love him.
Okay.
All right more Pedro Moss Pedro
All right, folks, we got to get on out of here.
Tomorrow, though, we're going to be talking to our buddy Jimmy Koska.
He is Civic Media Sports Director.
We're talking about actually shows, movies, things he is catching up on streaming wise.
We'll have a great conversation tomorrow with him.
It's casual Friday.
It's going to be a really fun time.
Do we have any other guests that day?
I think it's just Jimmy.
Hey,
did we learn something tonight?
Oh, really quick.
What'd
you learn?
Thanks to my man at Walmart last night.
The Hickey is alive and well.
Dom I learned all about the outsiders and a lot more more information love
nice wonderful wonderful wonderful and I learned that Dom's opinions are great All right Word thank you everyone for getting in touch with us calling texting and getting on the live stream and thank you traffic engineering duck Tucker and Tucker and Dom for all the work they do We got to get out of here stick around for more great program after this, but we'll be back tomorrow Pete say good night to the people
good night, Wisconsin
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