Mike Clemens on the Latest in Wisconsin Sports (Hour 1)

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Mike Clemens on the Latest in Wisconsin Sports (Hour 1)

Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Thu May 28, 2026

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Dude.

And Greg Bach.

Pete Schwaba

Dude!

Hello, everybody.

Welcome to Night Light.

We are kicking this show off on a Thursday night, a beautiful Thursday night in the state of Wisconsin.

Coming to you live on the Civic Media Network, I am Pete Schwabba, based in northeast Wisconsin, beautiful northeast Wisconsin in Christmas City, USA, also known as Marinette, Wisconsin.

I am joined as always by my compadre who is just down the coast in Radio Park, Racine, Mr. Greg Bach.

Hello, Greg.

Greg Bach

Hello.

Hello, everybody.

How we doing?

I'm doing quite well.

I had a very productive day.

I got a lot done.

I'm feeling good.

I don't know.

Honestly, my body hurts again.

I was talking about this yesterday.

I did yard work today.

I cleaned more of the house.

And now, like, my whole upper body's just like, oh.

How out of shape do you have to be that housework makes you hurt?

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, the general straightening.

And you pull a hammy.

That's problematic.

So I hope, I hope you get a chance.

During the breaks, I would stretch out, do some jumping jacks.

Whatever happened to jumping jacks, by the way, why don't we do jumping jacks anymore?

Greg Bach

They're very fancy now.

They're jumping Jonathan's.

Pete Schwaba

There's something going on.

Mr. Dom Lee is also joining us tonight for Madison as he so often does.

And when I say so often, I mean, every night, Dom, how are you?

I'm doing pretty good.

I really like that joke from Greg right there.

That was really funny.

That got me.

That got me for some reason.

I don't know what it was.

I liked it too.

Can I tell you something?

You sound like you're

Pete Schwaba

trying to stick up for him or something like I didn't like it.

Greg Bach

No, it was good.

Well, I mean it was real pizza farm reaction from you there, buddy

Pete Schwaba

No,

Greg Bach

I was doing the late night show at the laughing tap last Saturday and I did a joke and there was laughter and then one guy's goes that was funny.

I'm

like Sounds sounds fake, but it was true.

It was pretty good, but my day was really good the one downside was I was supposed to get my hair cut at 9 a.m.

Today and My barber had to reschedule no big deal, but

I just I I like having I like I wanted wanted to give a haircut today, but good there.

Do you go to a barbershop or a salon barbershop?

Greg Bach

Nice.

Okay.

Yeah,

Pete Schwaba

I usually go to a saloon.

Oh That's what's out for me.

Greg Bach

It's like that's good.

Like what would you like would do?

Would you like to done with your hair and also make sure if you're gonna spit out your tobacco doing that brass bucket there?

which

Pete Schwaba

is such an old

Greg Bach

timey thing.

I never understood that, but yeah, I love that idea, the

Pete Schwaba

saloon.

Listen, they do the wash, you know, you go to a bar and you can wash your clothes.

Why not have a couple cocktails while you get your hair

Greg Bach

cut?

Stop right there.

Did you say go to a bar and wash your clothes?

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, there was called suds and duds or something like that.

It was a place in Chicago years and years ago and they were connected to a bar.

You can go in and meet singles, mingle, have a cocktail and wait for your riff cycle.

I was really getting...

I

Greg Bach

go to laundry mat and that's where I do my drinking.

Pete Schwaba

That's where I sneak my booze in.

Yeah.

I always say to myself, there should be a bar attached to this.

Well, Dom, good luck on the whole haircut thing.

I'm sure that'll work.

Yeah, good moss anyway.

I don't think you don't seem desperate for hair.

Greg's the expert though.

He used to cut hair.

What do you think about Dom's hair, Greg?

Greg Bach

Well, I can't see it that close.

I mean, I can see that they're getting longer.

Yeah, that's

quite long.

I feel like, are

Greg Bach

you going to get trimmed?

You're gonna take a significant amount.

I'm gonna take a significant amount off because I you guys know this I play with my hair a lot It just it's sometimes it gets a little in my face, and I want it.

I want it.

I want it out of here I think I

Pete Schwaba

see a split in there Dom too.

It's something to address with your barber

Greg Bach

if you want when when we come to Madison one of these days when all of us are together I'll just shave your head dude.

Oh, I could do that Honestly, I'll shave your head, and I'll give you a nice taper on the sides in the back Like it won't just be a shaving it will be it will be of quality

Well, of

quality then it's what?

Pete Schwaba

I do.

Greg Bach

It's what I do with haircuts.?

I give quality haircuts.?

They're the best haircuts in the world.?

Pete Schwaba

I say it's the best.

Greg Bach

I just say, you know, some say a lot of people are saying they're the best.?

I don't know what that I don't understand, but that's the best haircuts in the world.?

He could cut his own.?

I?

cannot

Pete Schwaba

believe I have a Trump.

Greg Bach

Oh

Pete Schwaba

my God.

Hey, you know what?

Okay.

Here's a weird thing last night, guys.

Okay.

So I went.

I got done with the show.

We didn't have our post show meeting and my son was still in town.

So I said, can you drop me at the gym?

It's like three miles away on the way out of town.

I didn't have a car.

My daughter had a car.

My wife had a car.

My wife was at a high school graduation and she brought her mom long story.

So I'm like, I'll probably be fine.

So I go do this hour long workout.

I

can't get

Pete Schwaba

ahold of anybody in my family.

So I went and I did the hydro massager.

I did the chair massager.

I'm there an hour and a half.

I don't hear a peep.

My phone is draining.

I'm at like seven percent.

I'm like, oh my God.

I hope people are wondering where I am, but maybe they're not.

I'm going to have to walk home from Planet Fitness on the highway.

It was the most helpless I felt and whatever I could have called.

We actually have taxicabs here in Marinette, Wisconsin, Christmas City.

But basically with what it was this was a Hail Mary with 1% left on the phone

Greg Bach

Yeah,

Pete Schwaba

I heard from my wife and she paid.

Oh, oh sweet is that okay?

But here's here's what I'm doing.

I'm getting steps in I'm getting steps in at Walmart last night I walk by this I walk by this dude who's easily in his 40s and his neck is covered with hickeys Yeah

I don't you graduate past Hickeys when you're in your mid teens.

Well, I don't I mean What's this guy doing walking around Walmart?

I

Greg Bach

don't know.

I mean, I just leave me or God.

We don't know.

We

Pete Schwaba

have whatever regardless of partner.

Greg Bach

Here's what we know Do getting some lovin there

Pete Schwaba

you get some action.

Greg Bach

Yeah.

Yeah, and maybe that was the thing is he likes it cuz like we grew up

Pete with those TV shows where a kid gets a hickey and it's the almighty worst thing that's ever happened like like I gotta stay home from school I'm gonna be so embarrassed not this guy this guy's like I'm 45 I live in my mom's basement.

I got some action last night I want to show everyone in this Walmart and he did

Pete Schwaba

I think that's exactly and you know what it has a probably a domino effect where if there are other women that he finds attractive they might see then go

Oh, damn.

He's off the market.

Look at those Hickeys.

I bet I could give him a better Hickey.

He's so Hickey-able.

That's a neck you want to suck.

That's a... It's horrible.

I felt bad for this guy.

I'm like, come on, dude.

Let me buy you an Almond Joy or something.

Greg Bach

Let me buy you a Turtle Neck.

Yeah, right.

Pete Schwaba

I had that kind of money, too.

I could afford a Walmart Turtle Neck or a Dickie.

Greg Bach

Oh man.

Oh, that's funny.

I forgot.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, it was crazy.

I couldn't buy it.

I didn't think people,

Greg Bach

I didn't think adults still did

Pete Schwaba

that, but

Greg Bach

you

Pete Schwaba

know, Hey,

Greg Bach

everyone's going back in time for something.

Kids are listening to CDs and VHS tapes now.

So, you know, maybe guys like, you know what?

It's a Wednesday night.

I got to get some hickeys on this neck.

This neck has got some prime real estate for suction action here.

Pete Schwaba

Tattoo it up.

It was very old school.

I made immediately wanted to go home and make out with my wife.

So that and that was you know, why'd you I mean, I don't want the dirty details.

I'm just

Greg Bach

I'm just what you brought it up.

Okay.

No, I Got a

Pete Schwaba

great show tonight folks.

Oh Dom wait, where are we at on our round of applause a budget are you?

Greg Bach

Oh, we're we're good on that I checked that last week the

Pete Schwaba

line is

Greg Bach

are good on that We get we have a lot of applause budget.

It's the problem.

We the problem is we should have been

Working out like some applause some timpani back and forth and instead Dom the timpani master over here as anytime anything happens see We're gonna have to funnel some of those

Pete Schwaba

dollars into the timpani fun I feel like

Greg Bach

Dom should just start doing surprise timpani's and then we have just come up with some big announcement doesn't have to be real I can just be like I Grew a third arm.

Yeah, all right

Pete Schwaba

We know Dom is not siphoning funds out of the timpani petty cash for his haircuts though, because he gets them so unfrequently.

Greg Bach

Yeah, exactly.

Pete Schwaba

Despite what you've heard, folks, we have a really good show tonight.

We have.

Coming up at 535, our pal and the Civic Media Sports Authority, Mike Clemens will be here.

He's gonna talk Josh Jacobs, Brewer's record setting performance, lots of other stuff too.

We always love talking to Mike.

He'll be here at 535.

And then, ladies and gentlemen, in hour number two, it is Thursday and that means one thing, it is the Night Light Movie Club and tonight's film that we are gonna break down and discuss is The Outsiders, that classic

S. E. Hinton adapted uh Francis Ford Coppola movie really uh you know iconic film I would say launched a

bunch

Pete Schwaba

of careers

and it was

Pete Schwaba

fun to watch it again as an older person too not when I was in my 20s or even teens so I'm excited to talk about that with you guys too hopefully you guys will weigh in on the conversation talk about your favorite characters your favorite lines or scenes we've got uh we've got a lot to say on that so that will be fun did you guys get a chance to re-watch the film

I did

watch this today.

And

Pete Schwaba

Dom, was that your first time Dom?

I can't remember.

That was my second time and also read the book as well.

But yes, this was my second time.

I just rehashed it was pretty good.

Outstanding.

Nice.

Pete Schwaba

We also have a really fun, I think, question of the night.

So maybe we should get to that.

Let's do it.

What is a bad habit you wish you could kick?

We've all got them This question tonight was inspired by our senior producer Tucker Lagersky who found the statistic crazy statistic that in China where most of the world is cutting back on smoking China is increasing by like 50% the amount of smokers they have my goodness No idea what to attribute that to other than maybe smoking

Greg Bach

looking cool

Talk more about that when we discuss the outsiders.

Let me tell you.

Speaking of smoking,

Pete Schwaba

yeah.

But that is our question of the night.

What is a bad habit you wish you could quit?

855-752-4842.

855-755-CIVIC.

Let us know what you think.

Texas on the app.

If you're watching the radio on the stream over YouTube, Facebook, or ex Twitter, drop us a stream comment and tell us a habit you would like to quit.

I got a good one.

You guys are going to love it.

I wish I

Greg Bach

could quit.

Oh my gosh, so This is like this isn't surprising at all, but this was on New York Times website 60 minutes journalist who's accused who accused CBS of political meddling is losing her deal.

So apparently a a reporter

excuse me, Sharon Alfonso, who's been with 60 minutes for some time now for many, many years is no longer in contract and was pulled.

And this was the person who had the story regarding the Salvadorian prisons that was pulled off the air last December.

She has not been met with a new contract.

She still works for CBS and for 60 minutes, but they have not responded to her management team about, or sorry, her agents were inquiries regarding like a new contract.

Basically, she's kind of living month by month, if you will, if we're speaking in apartment terms.

But this is just another step in the bad direction CBS has been taking since Barry Weiss took over that joint.

I mean, it's been bad.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, it's and Barry Weiss created something called the free press.

I don't know if it's a podcast.

I think it was a podcast or a Some type of publication, but it's it's ironic like that in I woke up this morning Greg to headline headlines a text from around the company saying 60 minutes is dead or is done and I was like yeah, what and I but it was a figure of speech obviously, but this is really

Yeah, it's big news.

I mean, do people still watch?

What has this done to the ratings since Skydance Paramount took over?

Greg Bach

Well, it says here in the article that their ratings have gone up 9% this year and that the owner, David Ellison, son of Larry Ellison, you know, the guy who fired 30,000 of his employees over email.

This is all part of a major transition in CBS and 60 Minutes.

I know CBS radio is gone now, excuse me.

And it looks like they're trying to bring in people to help steer the ship of 60 Minutes, whatever that may mean.

I, it just seems like a bad, bad move for this show

Pete Schwaba

and for

Greg Bach

this historic news company.

Pete Schwaba

And speaking of 60 minute, or I'm sorry, CBS news, a regular contributor.

Formerly, Mike Clemens will be here after the news at the bottom of the hour.

We'll come back and we're going to talk about some new ratings numbers for Stephen Colbert's replacement.

That's next.

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Pete Schwaba

Hey, welcome back.

This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba and Greg Bach.

We are joined as always by Dom Lee who is working the board in producing the show for Madison.

This is folks for one night only a Hickey Free Zone.

There will be no hickeys on tonight's show.

We've already discussed it.

We moved past it.

And I just want to reiterate that.

I can't stress that enough.

Our question of the night is, what is that bad habit you wish you could quit?

This is inspired by the country of China, actually, where they are adding smokers at an astronomical rate while the rest of the world is cutting back.

I don't

get it

Pete Schwaba

either.

But that's our question tonight.

So share with us, if you would please, a bad habit you're trying to quit.

You can text us at 855-752-4842, 855-75CIVIC, or you can text us on the app.

Or leave us a stream comment like Laura Lee just did, checking to make sure we are here and we are here, guys.

Greg Bach

Laura Lee out there, Laura Lee, Laura Lee.

You can also listen to us on the Civic Media app as well.

That way you don't have to worry about the radio station.

So yeah.

In case

you're not getting

Greg Bach

good signal and she also let's just say this right now She gave us an answer to the question of the night, which is I wish to quit Derek van Orden a men's sister a Men

Pete Schwaba

Good Lord, what is the what would you quit just like dooms?

Him being

Greg Bach

congressman him being congressman being any part of the federal government I would just like for him to not be in government anymore get a podcast.

I don't care

Pete Schwaba

And Laura Lee says, I love radio and I love that she texted that in as well.

And she says we're supposed to ask her mother why or her last name or her Laura Lee is pronounced Lee.

So if you want to get your mother to call in, Laura Lee would be happy to talk to her and set her straight even if that's what that's what he wants to

go to bat for

Pete Schwaba

you.

Greg, there's another story that I

This one is a shocker because this guy is usually so humble.

He rarely tries to get press or any kind of headlines, but

Greg Bach

President

Pete Schwaba

Trump Could soon his face according to NPR could soon appear on a $250 commemorative bill In celebration of the 250th anniversary and all I can say about this is it doesn't surprise me

And I'm sure it will come across as well.

It was the treasury's idea.

He had nothing to do with it.

But I will say that those $250 bills are going to be so vandalized.

It will be almost fun to come into possession of one and see what people drew on that $250 bill.

Greg Bach

It will not be safe for radio.

That's for darn sure.

No.

I mean, if you read this article in the Washington Post about this, first of all, this article ended up being a lot longer than I expected.

Yeah.

But.

It's really, this is, I mean, it, it, it should go without saying, but this is really just the sucking up of the sucking ups.

Like it's just, we need to put his face on it.

First, okay.

First of all, there is a law that says you cannot put living people's faces on the bills, which goes back all the way to, I think it said in like the 1800s, when some mid-level person put their face on a coin and they're like, well, can't do that anymore.

This is why we can't have nice things.

But, and the late, and there was a woman,

who stood up and said, her name is Patricia Patty Salamine.

She stood up and said, look, you can't do this.

There's a law against it.

It has to go through Congress if you want to put his face on it.

And it also takes between six to eight years to come up with a new bill, especially for something of this value.

And what did they do?

They reassigned her from the Treasury Department.

Pete Schwaba

Really?

Greg Bach

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Pete Schwaba

I don't think they would go so far as to break the law.

So I think this will probably go away quietly.

Greg Bach

Well, I mean, the bill, the bill that will allow this to happen has been languishing in the Congress.

But now, of course, Trump wants to bring it up again, because anything not to talk about Iran, anything not to talk about the Epstein files, anything to not talk about the big bill for billionaires.

But yeah, I mean,

First of all, we don't, there's a reason why we don't have those large bills anymore.

We used to have $500,000 bills back in the day.

We don't need them.

And also it just looks like you can put a picture of him smiling on there or

don't

Greg Bach

put a picture.

I guess the presidents aren't smiling on the dollar bills, but like he just looks so ominous.

He always has to look so ominous.

Pete Schwaba

Like he's trying to be a tough guy.

Greg Bach

Yeah.

Or really he's just maybe, I don't know, saying like, whoa, this is a room full of really, really cool people.

I want to

Pete Schwaba

Weird out you said something about I think it was the Epstein files.

What what is that?

I haven't you never heard

Greg Bach

that?

Pete Schwaba

Oh, it's a

Greg Bach

very long.

It's a very long document that's sitting on someone's desk right now with a bunch of black swipes through it that people will never know about

Pete Schwaba

That was your voice I was Greg singing or humming the

A better segue for this next story probably would have been after we discussed CBS in 60 Minutes, but this is Colbert.

The ratings are in from Colbert's first night.

He was off the air after last Thursday.

The late show went dark permanently.

And there are ratings, as we all know, we've talked about it on the show, Byron Allen and his company Byron Allen Media, I believe it's called, purchased that time from CBS and Paramount Skydance.

And he is putting his show, Comics Unleashed, in that time slot.

The ratings for Stephen Colbert on his last broadcast were 6.7 million.

Not that skewed, because it was his last broadcast, there was a lot of hype.

But typically he averaged 2.5 to 3 million viewers a night.

Which is

Greg Bach

amazing for

Pete Schwaba

ladies and gentlemen.

Which is amazing.

And shows the hypocrisy of there were no ratings issues.

However, this Byron Allen, who I don't dislike, he's not Steven Colbert.

He pulled a 995,000, not even a million viewers in his first show.

And his target demographic or the target demographic, 18 to 49, he only pulled, he got, there was like a 95% drop off.

Greg Bach

He didn't beat reruns of Kimmel and Fallon.

Right.

That's

huge

Greg Bach

too.

Yeah.

And here's the thing that really kind of stuck with me really quick before we have to go to the news break here.

When asked about this, he said, I'm not trying to, I'm not trying, he said, not everyone's going to love me.

Not everyone's going to love the fact that I'm not being racist or anti-Semitic or sexist.

What?

Did you just accuse Colbert of being racist, sexist and anti-Semitic?

And then he goes on to say,

He's like, I'm doing my thing and people are rolling with you.

I learned that at an early age.

And by the way, it's simple.

It's a simple lesson that made me a billionaire.

Okay.

All right.

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Pete Schwaba

So

Greg Bach

you got some scratch

Pete Schwaba

to your name.

But man, seriously, it's such a weird thing.

Yeah, it'd be interesting to see what happens.

All right, Mike Clemens is here, folks.

He is the Civic Media Sports Authority.

Coming up after the news, we're going to talk Packers, Brewers, and all kinds of fun stuff.

We love having Mike on the show.

This is Night Light with Pete Schwabba and Greg Bach on the Civic Media Network.

Welcome back to Night Light on this Thursday night, a beautiful Thursday night in the state of Wisconsin.

Peach Waba, Greg Bach, and Dom Lee coming to you live from the Civic Media Network.

This is a fun show, folks.

We got a great question tonight.

What is a bad habit you wish you could quit?

855-752-4842-8557-5CIVIC.

You can also text us on the Civic Media app or drop us a stream comment if you're watching the radio on Facebook, Twitter.

Yes, I said Twitter or YouTube, but be part of the show.

Coming up in hour number two, it's Nightlight Movie Club, folks, and our movie this week is The Outsiders.

The Francis Ford Coppola film adapted from the very famous Essie Hinton novel that they still read in schools to this day.

Pretty amazing.

So right now, though, without further ado, we're going to switch to our first guest of the evening.

He joins us now as he so often does.

Over the phone, he is the Civic Media Sports Authority, Mr. Mike Clemens.

Hey, buddy, how are you?

Good, I tell you, the habit I got to stop is just, you know, 2 a.m.

and finally leave in the ballpark after following my stories and stuff, and get in the car and turning on one of the Civic Media stations, and it's the replay of Nightlight.

And now I'm up to four o'clock in the morning listening.

Pete Schwaba

Please don't ever quit, Mike.

Greg Bach

Yeah, please.

You know, you can go to civicmedia.us slash shows, go to Nightlight, download episodes, listen to that, your leisure, Mike.

You don't

have to stay late for night night.

Slow down, slow down.

Give me that address again.

Pete Schwaba

You'll find it.

How are you, buddy?

Good, except I'm in Green Bay for an extended period of time, and I can't help but be honest with you.

This is a tough story to cover because I know the guy.

I thought I did.

Who knows?

Who knows?

All I know is that Matt LaFleur has a real problem on his hands because a guy who rushed for over 900 yards last year, even with a bad knee injury and scored 13 touchdowns, may not be there in his roster this year and that's the running back Josh Jacobs.

Pete Schwaba

That is crazy.

Now he's denying the charges as I understand it.

He was released.

What happens next, Mike?

I mean, obviously can't participate in any Packer activities, I would assume.

I'll give you a timeline.

It's 8.37 on Saturday morning.

And in the suburb of Hobart, little west of the stadium, a lot of players

and

coaches live in that area.

Please are dispatched.

They interview the people involved.

One of them turns out to be Packers running back Josh Jacobs, 28 years old.

Clean record, he had a DUI in Vegas about five years ago.

Then they, after they talk to these people, they spend three days to investigate this, and then they come back with five charges.

Domestic abuse, physical strangulation, and suffocation, that's a felony charge.

Property damage, what not.

And it's my understanding from what I've been told that then Jacobs turned himself in Tuesday.

And now the crisis has started.

We talked to LaFleur yesterday, and I think that Jacobs called into the Packers and said, hey, man, I just had this incident talking with police.

OK, keep us posted.

So he spent the night in jail in the Brown County Courthouse on Tuesday night.

And then on Wednesday, the Packers said, OK, look, this is our media day here at the OTA's, the off-season program.

We're going to shut down the locker room to reporters because this was not everybody's mind.

It was a kind of a bombshell and what to do, what to say.

There's nothing else to talk about, you know?

I mean, come on.

So even though we want to talk to some of these new free agents they've got.

So we went to Matt LaFleur and he held his press conference and here's how that went.

Pete Schwaba

Wow, that's it.

Yeah, talk about a tough position for a coach to be in did he answer that question like Satisfactorily Mike like he kind of said there's a lock that's gonna happen and that's true, but How do you think he answered that was that was that did that suffice?

Well from the team standpoint and I can go by you know my experience in covering these things 20 years ago 20 years ago running back ironically.

I'm on green

woke up on a Saturday morning, got into a fight with his then wife, he punched a hole in the wall, the plaster wall, dry wall, outside the garage door, police came, interviewed, I believe he was taken away, arrested, and it wasn't until the following year that they had a court case.

And so that was kind of hanging over his head, and eventually those charges were dropped.

The league had different

different policies back then, because a lot of bad situations, some caught on videotape, have changed some of the league's policies.

So right now, there's one thing that could happen is that if they do file these charges, because what the DA does, they drop the charges, says, we need more investigation before we decide if we can actually go to court with these charges.

We need to do some more background before we put these charges on.

To me, something happened, right?

Something must have happened.

And enough that the officers and the Hobart Lawrence Police Department said, hey, this guy should report to jail.

The DA is like, all right, well, here's some things that maybe you didn't check.

Maybe they didn't get the security camera video.

Who knows?

Who knows?

So that's where it lies.

But for the team, there's a thing called where the commissioner has the commissioner's exemplarist.

where the player can no longer play or practice, but he continues to get paid until he gets his court date.

It would be amazing if at this point he's actually going to be able to come back and play and go back to a regular season.

That would be an amazing discovery by the DA's office, I would

Greg Bach

think.

Correct me if I'm wrong Mike, and I don't know if I heard you or Stuart J Waddle saying it on a news report that at this point there wasn't evidence to To file they filed they found charges, but like at this point there's not enough evidence to go forward if I heard that wrong, please correct me, but like It seemed like that's what I may have heard on the radio itself.

So please clear it up for me Okay,

all right.

That's it.

That's the statement we got from the district attorney

You know, there's too many gaps here.

There's things that we need to follow up.

We know, and that actually happens in a lot of these kinds of cases.

So it's not just because it's a football player.

It's standard in those kinds of cases, in an attorney that I talk to that define that for him.

No, this is kind of standard procedure in these situations.

And I've heard some things, Greg.

I'm not going to talk about them because I've done

Greg Bach

it too

many times.

And it's not until I have that police report in my hot little land that I will talk about what I know so far.

And when I went to the clerk yesterday, it's like ongoing investigation.

When that happens, then we'll be able to provide that report to you.

OK, gotcha.

Pete Schwaba

That's the voice of Mike Clements.

He is an outstanding sports reporter and our sports authority here at Civic Media.

He joins us tonight to talk Packers.

And Mike, should we pivot here and move to some Brewers news?

There's some great things going on with the Brewers.

On Memorial Day, I'm at the ballpark.

It's the Brewers against the Dodgers.

Well, no, the Cardinals.

The first game of the Cardinals series.

And Jacob Mizorovsky, the Miz is there on

the ball.

And he's throwing the heat, 100, 101, 102, 103, which he's, you know, done before.

He ends up throwing like 57 out of 96 pitches over 100 miles an hour.

And, you know, you start thinking of names like, you know, Walter Johnson, who was, you know, back at the Ty Cobb era, or Bob

Feller

for Cleveland in the 40s, you know, or Nolan Ryan.

Nolan Ryan, you know, could throw it 105, whatever.

And of course they didn't have radar guns in some of those areas, right?

But this is, you know, as measured as possibly can be.

It was an epic performance.

And so we went to the MIS afterwards and talked about his, you know, his endurance to take that into the seventh inning the other day.

Greg Bach

I just love that.

I just like playing, I just love playing, but playing baseball is just really, really fun.

Mike, I have a question for you.

And granted, none of us are sports doctors.

We're not managers.

We don't play for the team or any teams for that matter.

But, and, and it's great to see someone that young throws so much heat.

But after a while, that's going to start to take a toll.

He's not going to be, of course he can't do it every single game, but you also have to learn how to parse that sort of speed out to use it.

well instead of just throwing all the time because it's going to come to the point where your body is going to not be able to do it and your body is also going to be harshly impacted by throwing so hard so many times.

Right, we talked to the manager, Pat Murphy, about that great because like I know even Aaron Rodgers has said, throwing football, it starts with your feet and you work up, you know, through your body to get the most velocity on a ball.

And Murphy says that, you know, good pitching starts with the feet and the legs.

Yeah,

and so

on.

And then I went to Christian Yellich about this because he, Murphy says, you know, he's told me before, like, Abner Uribe, and it's great that he threw on 103 his first night out there as a relief pitcher, but he says, fast balls get hit in the major leagues.

You've got to move the ball around.

But Yellich says, you know what he's doing is that he's hitting the strike zone.

So when you're hitting the strike zone that consistently, you've got to honor it.

This is how Yellich broke it down.

And baseball's so cool because you go right in the office and sit down and talk to the manager.

And I'm talking to the Cardinals manager, Oliver Marl, just after this historic performance by The Miz on Monday in the Brewers 5-1 win.

And I'm asking him, I said, what's he doing?

And you can hear, you turn up your radio.

It sounds like an old Martin Short bit on 60 Minutes where he's like, I don't know what you're talking about.

What do you mean?

What do you say?

This is the Cardinals manager.

And I'm trying to ask him to break down what he just

saw.

Ha ha ha ha.

Pete Schwaba

All right.

We're going to break this clip down.

This clip comes compliments of our guest, Mike Clemens.

We're going to break it down.

We come back after a very short break.

We'll have a few more minutes with our pal, Mike Clemens.

It's night light with beaten Greg on the civic media network.

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Pete Schwaba

Oh, sorry, it was the same.

Hey, welcome back to Nightlight, folks.

I am Pete Schwabba, joined as always by Greg Bach.

And we are in the middle of a great conversation with our pal, Mike Clemens, who covers sports so well here at Civic Media.

We just heard a clip of Cardinals manager Ali Marmel talking about Mizorowski and how he throws.

Mike, that was a great clip.

But do you ever just start cracking up in the locker room?

You must.

Oh, no, I laugh in the concourse.

Well

Pete Schwaba

done.

I just nod like, oh, oh, really?

Sure.

And then I look at the record, like, did I get all that?

Are you kidding me?

That is gold, brother.

That is gold.

Greg Bach

That is great.

That was just great.

Like, are we done yet?

Are we done now?

What do you want to quote?

I'll give you a quote.

Yeah, I saw him pitch.

Yeah.

So, you know, one story today, by the way, is in baseball.

They're working on a new cba.

They got eight months to get this done so they don't have a stoppage in baseball next spring during spring training or god forbid the baseball season.

They're talking about a floor, not a salary cap, but a floor that teams would have to spend at least $150 million on their payroll for players and the brewers are under that currently.

Yes, they are.

They've got a lot of negotiations, but when you get down to the money and

The egos and all the negative things you hear on Friday night, the defending world champion, LA Dodgers are in town.

Logan Henderson, kid's been working his way up.

He's getting his second or third start for the first.

He's on the mound against

the world

champs.

He's only pitched a couple of games in the show.

And Freddie Freeman, veteran, got the ring.

First baseman, a tough hitter.

He comes up to the plate, and I'm looking at one of the monitors, and I go, did I just see that?

It looked like, before he got into the box, he nodded his cap like, hello, kid.

Like, welcome, kid.

Like, oh, come on.

Oh.

Oh.

That's cool.

So

after the game, so then Logan struck him out.

It was his first that bad, and he had a good game.

They won the game that night.

I

went to the clubhouse, and after the scrum, and Logan was still there, I said, can I ask you one more question?

Did Freddy Freeman give you like a hello note?

He goes, yeah, I know, I caught that, yeah, no.

Then I went to Pat Murphy after he got done.

And after the media left the auditorium, I went back up to Murphy and I said, hey, I asked Logan about this.

He said that Freddy's one of the best guys in baseball.

They got a lot of good guys over there in that Dodgers team.

Then I got over and we talked to the Dodgers and we get done in the office with Dave Roberts.

And I said the same thing to Dave because Freddy's one of the best, man.

So then there's, when I get out in the clubhouse, and there's like three reporters there from NHK, the Japanese network, because they have such

a

following for Shohei Otani, you

know?

And Yamamata, their pitcher.

So there's this huge, like, look at all these people here, they're on the road.

And they're all around Freddie Freeman.

When he gets on talking, I go, Freddie, can I ask you one more question?

Sure, sure, what is it?

And I told him, did I see that?

And here's the answer he gave me.

Greg Bach

Mike,

that was an

Greg Bach

amazing catch right there.

No

Greg Bach

pun intended, but that was a really good catch on your part, too.

Like, I wonder how many people actually saw that happening and deduced.

They're like, oh, it was a moment between two professionals.

Yeah, I mean, isn't that good stuff?

I mean, that's why.

That's the best part of these things, of these

Pete Schwaba

games.

God, I love baseball.

That's fantastic.

And I'm excited about the new CBA because it'll be nice to see Otani get some real money if they can read it.

I mean, nutty, nutty night out on the town money.

I

Greg Bach

mean, what, what is, what is Mark?

What's Mark onto not so going to do?

He's actually going to have to spend money.

Now, if this is the case, they were spending money 10 years ago and now they're like, they're far below the medium median.

And this could, what is there any problems you foresee with this?

They lost 20 million dollars when FanDuel went belly up, okay?

And people say well, you know Franchise is worth four or five billion dollars.

What's 20 million?

I had it explained to me you own a house and it's bought and paid for and The HVAC goes out.

You're right to check for 15 20 grand You know hello, and it's a thing.

How much do you think they think the grounds crew costs every year, you know or?

or this crew or that stuff or all those people they got on TV, $20 million is $20 million.

It's

Pete Schwaba

a lot of market.

Yeah, absolutely.

So we got about a minute left, Mike.

The division with the Brewers and the Cardinals and the Cubs and the Reds.

There's a lot of streaks.

The Cubs just had a huge losing streak after a big winning streak.

The Brewers have had winning and losing streaks.

What is happening in this division?

Who do you think is positioned properly right now?

Craig Council's had trouble putting healthy starting pitchers on, but he's also had a poor hitting streak as well.

And they should have been able to hit their way through this period.

Pat Murphy is not only himself,

He's got an unbelievable coaching staff, Pete.

I'm telling you, they keep on finding these 24, 25-year-old guys.

How about Kyle Harrison, who was doing nothing in the Red Sox game?

You want him?

Go ahead, have him.

That's what

Greg Bach

we do at the Brewers.

And they moved him six inches to the left on the rubber.

The pitching coach,

Chris

Hook, looked at him and said, try this.

Move six inches to your left.

And now he's throwing strikes.

It's coaching, man.

It's

Greg Bach

coaching.

What the brewers do it's what we did with Andrew Vaughan.

It's what we do and I love it

Pete Schwaba

And it's nice that you guys have Mizorovsky under contract to No, no, what's that?

Oh Mike thank you so much as always my friends stay safe out there on the roads.

I know you drove through hell getting to Green Bay the other day But thank you for as always for taking the time to join us buddy.

All right boys.

Have a good day.

Have a good show.

All right

Pete Schwaba

You too, Mike.

You too.

That is Mike Clemens, folks.

He does great work here at Civic Media.

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