Martín Alvarado on Books, Culture & Library Picks (Hour 2)

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Martín Alvarado on Books, Culture & Library Picks (Hour 2)

Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Wed May 27, 2026

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And then finally, not finally, but just a last little piece of, you know, housework.

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Tasks

or I

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guess, yeah.

Thank you.

All those things are nominally helpful.

tomorrow in the second hour, not helpful at all.

Well, you know, I'm passive aggressive.

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Very happy you're joining us.

And let's get back.

to the question of the night.

Let's restate it, and let's look at these answers.

There's some good stuff in here tonight, so replay the music, my friend.

Let's talk about the question.

Okay, question.

Question.

Question.

Pregunta.

Question.

Question.

Okay, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

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Domanda.

Question.

Question.

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The New York Knicks are going to the NBA Finals for the first time in, would you say, 29 years?

29 years 27 years give or take a few years.

It's the same thing Yeah, but we want to know what is your favorite all-time sports moment doesn't have to be local doesn't have to be something everyone knows give you something in your heart

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So there you go.

All right, Pete, let's start with you.

What is your favorite sports moment or

Pete Schwaba

moments?

I've got a few.

Chris Bryant to Anthony Rizzo for the final out of the 2016 Game 7 World Series win for the Cubs.

Greg Bach

Well, that's good.

Good talking about that.

Now, Dom, on to you.

I'm scared.

It's

Pete Schwaba

really funny.

It's really funny, Greg.

Greg Bach

I'm sorry.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, that's all right.

I know.

We've got a friendly Cubs Brewers rivalry.

And you've had, listen, you've had your share of fun with my Cubs over the

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last couple of years.

Pete Schwaba

It'll be over soon, I'm sure.

Spoken like a true Brewer fan.

Michael Jordan's last shot is a bull in game six against Utah.

Greg Bach

Was that the one where he like shot and then he came and he like did the thing?

Was it where he was sick?

Pete Schwaba

No, that was the year before.

This was his last shot as a bull that came from behind one in game six on the road in Utah, the sixth championship in eight years.

That was just a great moment, iconic moment.

1983 NC State.

over a dunk over Akim Olajuwon or I should say Derek Wittenberg took a shot to win the game.

It fell far short, but it went over Akim Olajuwon's head.

And I think it was Lorenzo Charles took the ball out of the air and dunked it.

And this serious underdog won.

It was just a spectacular game.

And here's a great moment was the Badgers win over Kentucky in 2015.

That was not for a championship, but I,

it was probably the biggest win in Badger basketball history.

And I've got one more.

I know, I got quite a list here.

Buster Douglas over Mike Tyson.

Greg Bach

I remember that as a kid.

I remember seeing that I was in bowling league and it was a Saturday and we were talking about that.

And I just said, I think the Buster Douglas is going to win.

And not really cause I had any real knowledge of boxing.

I just felt like it was time that Mike Tyson lost.

You know, he had been fumbling people.

time after time, I'm like, someone's got to do this.

And I, you know, I just started to say cheekily.

I'm like, I think Buster Douglas is going to win.

And then, you know, they welcomed me the next Saturday on, on shoulders and ticker tape.

They knew it.

Pete Schwaba

That's

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the guy

Pete Schwaba

that knows a lot about boxing over there.

He's not good bowler and he knows boxing.

Yeah.

We had, I remember I was living in this high rise in Chicago, way far north with two roommates.

It was kind of a dumpy building, but I had all my high school friends from Wisconsin down.

And we're looking over the lake.

We got the TV on.

We set up a pool so that there was a new potential winner every 30 seconds.

Because that's how quickly we thought Mike Tyson was going to knock out Buster Douglas.

Greg Bach

But

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his mom had just passed away.

There was all this drama.

And he took it the distance and won and then knocked out a champion.

And as much as I wanted Tyson to lose, seeing a champion fall, man, there is nothing like, it was a phenomenal event.

We were going crazy.

Everybody cheering for Buster Douglas.

It was a great, that was a great sports moment.

Greg Bach

Yeah, unfortunately, that's really what only he's known for.

Like he's just the guy who,

Pete Schwaba

well, that's a true life Rocky though.

You know

Greg Bach

what I

Pete Schwaba

mean?

Like he just probably wanted to go the distance.

He ends up knocking out Mike Tyson and saying,

Dom, what about you?

I got to say back in 2021, um, I did this over Facebook as well.

Um, sent this over Facebook, but back in 2021, the field of dreams game, I was watching it live.

Um, the socks beat the Yankees nine to eight.

Greatest game I've ever watched, watched with a bunch of friends in one of my buddy's basement.

It was, it was amazing.

We freaked out, we ran outside, I took my tarp off and was ready to go.

Your tarp?

My shirt.

Back

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up there a second.

Greg Bach

You know,

buddy,

don't, don't, don't do that.

Don't, don't just be like, don't just say a word and think we know.

We need another brain rot quiz.

Wait, you call your, wait, hold, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry to derail this whole thing here.

Pete.

Greg Bach

Help me out here.

This isn't something I missed the boat on.

Like tarp is not a word for shirt that like has been used for a long time that I'm just finding out about now.

Really?

You

Pete Schwaba

really never heard that before?

No, I've never heard that.

I've never heard tarp.

Greg Bach

Well,

Pete Schwaba

I kind of like it.

It's a it's a kind of sorry I didn't think about it.

Greg Bach

I went outside and I threw my smoking jacket off and I was like

For the White Sox of Chicago have beaten the Yankees of New York.

I didn't just, oh man, I yanked it off and I ran outside.

You yanked it off?

I yanked it off.

Ooh.

Pete Schwaba

I took off my denim tubes and threw them and

then I ran through the streets

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joyously.

It was a gay night.

I really, that is a, do they still do the field of dream games still?

Because that for me would be a bucket list, absolutely.

I don't know if they do them anymore, but I know they must be, they are probably

like, redonkulously expensive.

I don't think they

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do anymore.

I've been

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there.

I've been there.

It's tiny.

You've been there?

So I have to imagine that tickets were like squillions and squillions of dollars.

And that's why the game was so good.

There was Homer after Homer.

The field was so small that it was just constant action, each inning.

It was great.

It was

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great.

It's cool that you were with your friends, too.

Like, when you were with a group, oh, man,

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that

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just makes it

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amazing.

Senior producer Tucker just dropped us in our chat.

I thought you were talking about, like, a tarp for the roof of your house or something.

That's what I thought, too!

I was like, I don't care if we have mold, honey.

Get the tarp off.

I'm like, did you thrift that tarp?

I'm not sure.

Okay, all right.

I only really have a couple, like, only two, and I already mentioned one just now, and, well...

Last year I went to a brewers game where we won at the last second.

It was, I mean, I don't even remember who, I think we're playing the giants.

And I went to this game with our very good buddy, Dan Schaefer and William Contreras.

came Wilson Contreras will

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Wilson or William.

No,

Greg Bach

William.

Sorry

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with his

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brother plays for our team and he's a he's a sassy boy.

He doesn't like being hit by balls because he plays painful one in the last inning and that was I mean, we went absolutely mad and I thought that was the greatest Brewers game I ever went to until I went to this one this past couple weeks ago that I mentioned earlier with norm from Appleton cigar where it was I got there we got there at the beginning we stayed until the end extra innings the Brewers absolutely destroyed it.

It was

Awesome.

We were horse.

We were screaming and yelling and it was so much fun.

And then the other one that I wasn't there for, but I watched it.

My wife got me into hockey.

We used to be very big into hockey.

The both of us she very much so, but this was a game six of the Stanley Cup in 2013 in Chicago, Blackhawks versus the Boston Bruins two to one in game six with 116 left in the period and the Blackhawk scored.

twice in 17 seconds.

And there's this meme or gift that goes around of all these people in a bar and they'll put different images on the TV and they all go nuts together.

But that's from the Blackhawks game when they score and they win.

And it was insane.

It was so

Pete Schwaba

cool.

Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do,

Greg Bach

do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do,

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do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do

three Stan Lee's in five years.

And I remember posting all my friends and I said, this is amazing.

I wish I liked hockey

Greg Bach

because

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it was, it was like,

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I

Pete Schwaba

felt kind of like an outsider, you know,

Greg Bach

that was great.

If you ever have a chance, go to a hockey game, an HL game.

It is mind-blowingly fun, so much fun.

So people say for sure.

I talked a lot, I'm sorry about that one.

What do we do here, Greg?

What are we doing here?

I know, but there are people who have given us their heartfelt ideas

on their

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favorite sports moments, and we should get to those right meow.

We got quite a few here.

We got Brett from Brown Deer Texan says, my all-time favorite sports moment is every time the Brewers beat the Cubs with Craig Council, especially in Chicago.

Pete, what do you say to that?

Pete Schwaba

That must be sweet.

I get it, dude.

There's a lot of Cub fans that don't like him as a manager, and I think he's considered

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a pretty

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good manager.

I don't know.

I mean, Joe Madden, speaking of the World Series, he did his best to lose Game 7, and that irritated me.

Council's a better, yeah, I don't know.

I don't know if it's because he used to be the manager of the Brewers, and there's that rivalry, but whatever it is, I don't get it.

Greg Bach

I mean,

The thing is, I personally feel like with Craig Council, he's so understated and so quiet and so serious that I feel like you think he's not a good manager or whatever.

He's actually one of the best managers in baseball.

And I've been saying this since the moment he left the Brewers.

And after his first season, this is not the end for him.

He is much better than people think.

And I think that, you know, I think he's going to have some good days with the Cubs for as long as he's with them because he's a great manager.

And

I was mad at him for like 24 hours, then I got over it.

Pete Schwaba

Would you want him back though instead of Pat Murphy?

Greg Bach

No, I want Pat Murphy.

I love Pat Murphy.

Pat Murphy is perfection in my opinion.

He's everything.

He's fantastic.

I think that, I think that, you know, I'm sure they wouldn't say it now, but if you ask him about the locker room vibe of Craig Council versus Pat Murphy, because Craig Council just always seemed mad.

He always seems angry, but he wins.

He's hilarious.

He's fun guy.

Yeah, he's a very fun guy.

He's

very fun guy.

And I'm happy to have him two time NL manager of the year.

But yeah, we're going to get.

to more of your thoughts on this question, which is what's your favorite all-time sports moment in celebration of the Knicks going to the NBA finals for the first time in nearly three decades?

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Our question of the night is, what's your favorite all-time sports moment?

Let us know.

We have lots to get through.

We just had a laundry list of

our own personal

Greg Bach

ideas.

So let's get right back into this, Dom.

the one from Brett, but let's keep it moving with Karen from Racine.

Absolutely, Karen from Racine said the 57 Braves.

Okay,

Greg Bach

all

right.

My grandma

Greg Bach

my grandmother worked at County Stadium when that happened

beautiful and we also got My mom Christine says the best was when the fridge parry made a touchdown From the Bears back then he was known as big but now he would probably be just thought of as Normal or not that undersized even probably.

Yeah, I'm

Greg Bach

saying William.

Can you gain a little weight, please?

We need like it, but you gotta read what your mom tags

Yeah, what did Mama Lise say?

She said, and no AI for my Dom.

Oh my gosh, that is so...

That

deserves... It's about the sweetest of all.

A little Italian

Greg Bach

stallion.

A little Italian stallion.

Jimmy Steezer here gets down.

Stop, stop.

All right, let's keep moving on for those

hands.

Yep, we got Eric listening in from Madison.

It says, Badgers winning Rose Bowl in 1994.

The program was really down late 80s, early 90s, big for Wisconsin.

Yeah, that was great.

We got Robert from across saying when in 2021 the cross curling club sent its first team to national championships.

Love it.

Pretty cool.

Yeah.

I love those.

That's awesome.

That's

Greg Bach

awesome.

That's fantastic.

I love that.

We got Monica.

Can't wait for I can't wait for Dom to try to pronounce this next one.

I know I was I'm scared.

Monica from Mount Worob says Nadia Comen Nadia Comenichi getting the first perfect 10 in gymnastics in 1976.

Thanks.

Greg Bach

I could do it.

I'm gonna

love

Pete Schwaba

Nadia Cominici.

Greg Bach

Yeah.

Oh, absolutely.

It's a great story.

Pete Schwaba

In the big way.

I had a big crush on her.

Yeah, she, okay.

All right.

Greg Bach

We're gonna

Pete Schwaba

make a great deal.

Oh, wow.

Too much information, Schwab.

Greg Bach

Hey, no, it's fine.

I'm

sure

she was.

I was not even born at that point, so.

Let's see what else we got here.

We got Brett from Brown Deer texting in a little bit different than the question of the night But so the Trump phone made with American values in mind has a US flag on it with 11 stripes might be American values in mind But those are Chinese hands making them.

Greg Bach

Okay.

Yeah, they're trying to say now that the word Trump mobile are the last stripes They're like nice save nice save The moment where I kicked my Trump mobile phone into Lake, Michigan

better the

Pete Schwaba

uprights

we got John Murray sorry says so the Bears 1985 Super Bowl and how much did Michael Jordan in the Bulls spoil us so a long drought after all that and then the Cubs win win a pennant like a boss all great moments that stick and then he also says game six shot was like magic yes

Then he also said, couldn't close my mouth the first time I saw Dr. J. Dunk over a center 10 inches taller than him with a red, white and blue rubber ball.

Greg Bach

Oh,

Pete Schwaba

the

Greg Bach

ABA, baby.

The

Pete Schwaba

ABA.

Greg Bach

Oh

Pete Schwaba

my

Greg Bach

gosh.

We

Pete Schwaba

missed.

We got one here from Luke that we missed.

I want to get that one too.

He says, there's a shot Christian Leitner made over Kentucky.

Duke versus Kentucky.

That's Luke and Madison.

Thank you, Luke.

I still hate Duke so much, but that was an amazing one.

And Kentucky, honestly.

We got Annie from Watertown says, favorite sports.

College.

Favorite sports moment when my son said after two years high school football, yeah, maybe it's not a good idea to get concussions.

Greg Bach

That's

a

Greg Bach

great

sports

Greg Bach

moment.

That's a smart young man there, Annie.

Very smart young man.

Very nice.

So the smart Greg had to go 50s press.

That's right.

I'm working at the printing press here.

And let me tell you something.

There's a car shop down the street.

They're doing a really good event.

All right.

Full stop.

Full stop.

All right.

Uh, let's save the last couple too.

Let's get to the Facebook messages from Pete.

Uh, and I got some of mine as well, but yeah, we're still reading these messages.

You can let us know the question of the night is what is your favorite all time sports moment, call or text and Pete read a couple of phone call.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah.

These are awesome.

Oh, let's take the call.

Let's get the call in.

Greg Bach

It's Ollie from the North woods.

What's going on, my friend?

Well, I have to tell you my all time favorite.

sports thing was probably in the 1990s.

And it was the Vikings game that my dad actually gave up watching.

So he could finally fix dinner for my mom instead of her always fixing dinner for him and trucking it into the, to the living room in front of his game.

Pete Schwaba

Ollie, are you trying to make me cry?

That

is absolutely beautiful.

I just thought, you know, that's the thing that I remember the most was the year that I came home and he actually was fixing dinner for her instead of her having to take the food into him so he could watch his games all the time.

Pete Schwaba

How did it taste?

Was it good?

I'm sure it was.

What an interesting follow-up, Pete.

He made bread, even.

Oh,

Greg Bach

okay.

Nice.

Nice.

Very, very nice.

That's awesome, Ollie.

Love it.

Thank you so much, Ollie, for calling in.

Always appreciate hearing from you, our friends.

Seriously, have yourself a great night.

Take care, Ollie.

Okey-doke.

All right, bye-bye.

Pete Schwaba

Okey-doke.

I love, too, that that's like a peripheral sports.

It's out of sports that this moment came, if not

on the

Pete Schwaba

court or the field.

Thank you, Ollie.

Stacy Sue says when Brett Favre went in to replace magic man, Don McCauskey.

I remember that

Greg Bach

very well.

New career

Pete Schwaba

was born.

Incredible.

Janet agrees with her.

That was a great moment.

Stacy Sue also says also when my dad, Ivor Johnson, got a hole in one at North Shore Golf Club.

That's up here in Menominee out in the county.

That's gotta be

Greg Bach

something.

You shoot a hole in one.

My father-in-law was an avid golfer and he's, I think he shot at least one.

I think he shot two, but like I couldn't even imagine.

I would never golf again.

I'd be like, I'm done.

I, I,

Pete Schwaba

yeah, exactly.

I couldn't do it on a mini golf course.

Greg Bach

No, no, no, no.

Cash

Pete Schwaba

Money Carl, it would be so disappointed.

Cash Money Carl would be.

And then Stacy Sue also says anytime the Brewers beat the scubs dog, go on.

That's Stacy Sue.

I

Greg Bach

mean, I encouraging this, I promise you a good sportsmanship all around.

All right, folks, we got to take a quick break.

But when we come back from the news, we'll be talking to Martin Alvarado from the Madison Public Library about his picks and what's going on in the library, possibly near you.

So don't go anywhere.

Stick around.

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We're going to talk about what we've learned and get to more of your comments and tonight's question.

What is your favorite all time sports moment?

Couldn't always get in touch less.

No, got some more time left.

But now it's time to welcome to the show our second guest of the evening, returning friend of the show.

He is the Community Engagement Librarian for the Madison Public Library.

Martin Alvarado is back talking about books, talking about what's happened at the library.

Martin, welcome back friend.

Thank you so much for being here this evening.

Oh, it's great to be back.

And just happy summer to everyone.

It just feels that way at this point.

And that's apropos of the fact that one of the greatest American traditions summer reading is almost going to be full and forced.

I think the drop comes on January or on June 1.

And it's really interesting.

I have like all these fun memories.

I think I was more interested in getting the pizza than reading when I was a kid.

But I think whatever gets you reading is is a good thing.

And there's all sorts of fun things that libraries have planned out.

There's also reading for

clubs for adults now where you get like little prizes and milestones.

So it's like, okay, why not keep doing that all your life and kudos to the libraries who do that.

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One of the cool

things that I noticed is that a bunch of libraries and national one of the national themes is unearth your story or unearth a story.

And they're going to be focusing on dinosaurs, archaeology, just all sorts of things that have to do with digging in the ground.

So I always think it's cool when it involves like not going beyond the books.

And the absolutely the one that I like that we want to call out is Eau Claire at the Ellie Phillips Library.

They're hosting a medieval, a merry medieval fair on Saturday, June 6th from 10 to two.

A lot of performers making candles, swordplay, et cetera, wool spinning, but

To ensure the celebration remains safe and fun for everyone, the library wishes to remind the public that the building and grounds are strictly combat-free zones.

All guests are kindly asked to leave their weapons, including foam swords, plastic shields, and any other replica safely tucked away in their distant homeland.

I think that that's usually what I do before I head over here to Nightlight.

Make sure I'm not killing any foam swords.

Oh, you can bring

Greg Bach

swords and clubs and maces like that be half the foam, man.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah.

Absolutely.

You've got a lot going on, specifically in Milwaukee.

It's lessons from Milwaukee's grassroots response to AIDS.

Tell us about some of the pride events going on at the libraries across

the state.

So that one is happening in Madison and we're very lucky to have a Milwaukee based historian who is going to be looking at how the LGBTQ, the gay community essentially during the 80s at the heights of the AIDS crisis.

They didn't have any resources.

They weren't given sometimes even like any legal protections and just how they figured out how to make it through.

A lot of them didn't, but these are gaining on I think what has

come up with a much more significance in these days that are more turbulent is how do we make it so our community is safe so that we can take care of each other.

People are having trouble paying bills.

They might be facing some uncertainties.

So it's I think taking those lessons and knowing that there were people who made it through who were faced with really difficult situations.

And also I think looking at the library as a place where people of all identities have

been able to find a place where they can find themselves reflected in the books.

And I think more importantly, knowing that if they check out any book from the library or anything that is completely confidential and private and protected by state law, which back in the day, you wouldn't want to be outed for picking up a certain book.

And that's been, I think, one of the things that regardless of who you are, sexual orientation, race ethnicity, having that

assurance that you have a space where your data isn't mined and being sold in everything where what you do, what you want to read more about, explore, just stays there.

It's just I think one of the core things that ties in with Pride Month.

Greg Bach

I think you mentioned this before, but

Martin, please repeat that when you go to the library, not only are you safe to check out what you want, but your data and your information because that's something like besides like, you know, we fortunately right now we live in a world where no one's getting picked up for the books.

They're getting from the library or from online, but we see a lot of companies that are buying up information on folks ID data mining taxes and you don't do that, right?

No, it's state law and at least in Wisconsin and I think around the country, there needs to.

be a court order for that to be released.

Just a quick anecdote from around 2001 after September 11th, the FBI started sending all these letters to libraries.

They wanted to know who had checked out what and what.

The libraries weren't allowed to say, we've had a letter from the FBI, but some libraries that were really clever put out a sign that said, we have not received a letter from the FBI.

And then if people, if the librarians took the sign down, then it was a hint of like, oh.

I think maybe something happened.

All sorts of creative ways, I think, just people find to face all these challenges.

Greg Bach

Absolutely.

I think that's important for people to know, especially in today's day of data mining, everything.

What else is going on in, whether it's in Madison or, I mean, you send this lovely list of all these different things happening in libraries all across the state.

Is there anything that sticks out that you want to talk about right now?

Well, quickly, also just along the theme of Pride and Wisconsin Rapids, also on Thursday, June 11.

2026 at 630, two editors, Margaret Mooney and Margaret McMurray and are going to be talking about just a pioneering group of people, the lesbian moms of the 1980s, 1990s and 2000s in the Madison area.

I think they were taking a lot of risks, but who doesn't take risks for their family and for being able to live who they are.

So I think it's interesting because now we're looking at the history of something that happened within our lifetimes, but now it's something that's talked about.

history books and memoirs and everything.

So for me, it's just, yeah, being able to place it in its context, it's something that's been around families forever.

But now there are all of this progress that people did in the past, I set it up so that people can be more free, generations can live with a little bit less fear.

But yeah, despite everything that's happening right now, I think there's a good history that people can look back on.

Pete Schwaba

Our guest is Martin Martin Alvarado, who is the business and technology librarian at the Madison Public Library, but he has his finger on the pulse of libraries around the state.

He joins us once a month here to talk books and events happening at your local library.

Martin, let's talk about road trips.

This is some great book talk.

uh, you shared this with us and what, what do you recommend?

Like either what you've heard or what you've read yourself.

I don't expect you to read every book that you send us on these lists.

I certainly haven't, but what do you recommend?

What's the first thing that comes to your mind in regard to road trip books?

I want to recommend two books that are either going to be hot off the press or being published in a couple of weeks or so, because I think one of the really quintessential parts about our road trip is you get to see

parts of the country at street level.

You get to experience what people are going through.

You get to go through places literally that are off the beaten path.

And you can really, I think it lends itself to a lot of internal monologue because you're on the road, you're thinking about things, things trigger, you learn about things.

If you're kind of a nerd, you might insert a bunch of history.

The one that caught my eye was Midwestern Death Trip, which is a memoir of a woman who was

Yeah, having some difficulties, just maybe not fitting in.

And then just goes with a, I love when people take vintage cars like a Cadillac and then just start going around and poking around different corners.

And just, I think it references this other book that's very interesting about Wisconsin, the Wisconsin Death Trip book that came out many years ago where they have all these people in funerals.

So she takes that aesthetic because she was kind of a goth.

safe to say and then just applies that part so there's her internal monologue all the things that she's read about and then the people she's encountering right now that are very different from maybe the people who are there or maybe there's some similarities so I think anything that takes us there the other one called monster of a land that is coming out in on June 16th is a woman from I think

Where is she coming from?

She's doing basically the Austin

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Shamrock

Texas the Austin area part of things and also like a very different setting than the Midwest and also another woman traveling singly with her dog and Taking a cue from travels with Charlie, which was John Steinbeck's trip when he was just

knowing that his days were numbered, he goes from New York all the way around the country and then comes back through the South to New York and just really has a chance to talk to people.

And both of them remark is when you have a dog, it's like your best calling card.

It's your best like way of opening up a conversation, just show up with your dog and people open up.

And I think just being able to have those conversations, knowing you're an outsider, people will sometimes tell you interesting things and then

Yeah, just anything that takes you on the road.

I have to also call out Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

Just an amazing book.

I think the movie version actually does it pretty good justice.

But just to capture the entirety of Huntress Thompson, you have to read the man to really take in.

And it's, yeah, you can't really, as much as the special effects in the library, in the movie were cool, you can't really

grasp like the enormity of what Hunter was writing.

Um, and I was going to say, since this is a, I know you both are movie buffs, like let's do a quick round.

I'm going to throw out a easy rider as one of my favorite road

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movies.

There you go.

I did not see that movie until later in life.

And I was like, oh, sit down and watch it.

And by the time it was over, I'm like, this is so sad and depressing.

Oh my goodness.

Yeah, that's a, I mean, Fear and Loathing Las Vegas, both the book and the movie are so much meaning.

I mean, I used, I mean, I'm still a fan of Hunter S. Thompson, but I really delved into it.

Had like read a lot of his books and Fear and Loathing is the apex for me.

It's, I mean, to quote him, it's the high watermark.

I mean, he's got other great books, but that one is just

absolutely mind blowing.

Like you just like, you keep on asking yourself, when is it going to end?

When are you guys gonna like, cause they are just so out of just insane on drugs.

But you're like, the way he, the way he writes about it is so beautiful too.

And all there to watch, they're supposed to be there to watch a race.

Yeah.

And I think that's, I think the excuse is what gets you on the road.

And then what happens on the road is kind of like the magic of all, all these

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tales.

I would like to recommend one too, Martine.

I don't know if you've ever read On the Road.

That's one of my all time favorite books.

I've read it four or five times.

Jack Kerouac.

And

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it reminds, yeah, I'm glad you think so.

One of the books you shared here on the road in search of modern America, that's kind of what on the road was in the 1940s when jazz was new or at least new to white people and all these, it was just such a great, I love the characters.

I lose myself in the book and some of his passages about

the

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only ones for me are the mad ones, mad to talk, mad to live, like so great.

I highly recommend that if you're looking for a road trip book as well.

And I think it's great.

You can pick up a road trip book, whether you're staying at home, whether you're at the beach, whether you're on the road, it might be a great... The Lost Children archive is one of my favorite recommendations.

It's the story of this couple that records soundscapes, but it also ties into children that are being separated from their families on the southern border.

So it has that immediacy and it has like the desolation of the desert plus the relationship sort of breaking down.

So it's a good one.

The children of...

The Archive of Lost Children by Valeria Lucelli, I hope.

Greg Bach

Thank you very much.

I was going to ask you to repeat that one.

And we will, we will make sure that all of this information is on our show notes, including, uh, if you, you know, check out your local library, please.

It's a great resource, whether, and that's the thing too is like, whether you're young, old boy, girl, doesn't matter.

And it doesn't matter who you vote for.

The library is there for you to learn and to engage and to be a part of something great in the community.

Martin Alvarado is the community engagement librarian for the Madison public library.

He is here every single month.

Thank you so much for sharing your time with us.

month, Martin, have yourself a wonderful evening.

Yeah.

Thanks a lot.

Have a great June.

Greg Bach

Thanks.

You as

Greg Bach

well.

All right.

When we come back, we're going to get into the nightcap where we read more of your responses to our question of the night.

What is your favorite all time sport moment?

And then we will be talking about what we learned.

So don't go anywhere.

Stay tuned.

Stay close.

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Pete Schwaba

It's time to wind it down.

Let's take a moment to look back and ask, what did we learn today?

This is Nightcap with Greg and Pete.

Greg Bach

Welcome back to Nightlight with Pete Schwabbe and Greg Bach here on the Civic Media Network.

We're coming to you live from all over the state.

I am Greg Bach coming live from Radio Park in Racine all the way up in Marinette, Wisconsin is Mr. Pete Schwabba and in Madison is Dom Lee on the ones and twos.

We are your Yadra Hey Triangle.

So happy you're joining us this evening.

We are officially in the nightcap where we hear from you on the text line on the live stream and.

on the phone.

We got a phone call from our friend Greg in Waukesha

about

tonight's question.

What is your favorite sports moment of all time?

Greg, good evening.

Welcome to the show.

How can we help you?

What is your favorite moment?

Well, it's your favorite blind listener ever.

Um, anyway,

Pete Schwaba

I don't know that Greg.

You don't know that.

Greg Bach

Well, I guess I don't.

Okay.

You are so good myself.

Anyway, um, so.

My favorite sports moment ever was in 1997, we went to the Green Bay Packers Hall of Fame and

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we

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ended up going to a preseason game.

It was the Packers versus the Patriots.

And if you guys recall, that was the rematch game because the Packers and the Patriots, I believe, played in the 1996.

Super Bowl and we sat we were like we're not gonna get seats for this game.

We sat right behind the New Britain New England Patriots kicker, but hey at least we had seats and that was one of my favorite sports moment and

you guys have a good night.

Take care.

Okay.

Pete Schwaba

Thank you,

Greg Bach

Greg.

Thank you so much for coming.

Appreciate hearing from you.

Lovely, lovely, lovely.

Actually, before we get to the text and to the Facebook, we do have some live stream comments that have been here for a while.

Let's

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get to

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those as well.

Dave on the live stream says the 1993 Rose Bowl.

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My

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dad played in the 1960 Rose Bowl.

It was so cool.

We beat Michigan State in Japan to clinch the big 10 title.

The memories just rolled out.

Sydney politics

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says,

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and by the way, happy, happy New Year, Sydney.

Devin Hester running back the Super Bowl kickoff for a touchdown and Anthony Joshua knocking out Jake.

happy new year and every game the Celtics lose with your Sid and then a lovely little bromance here.

Sidney politics has sub Dave and then Dave says, Sid, what is up?

I love people make friends here.

Dave's

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dad was the coach at Marinette high school.

Oh my God.

Greg Bach

He played.

Pete Schwaba

He's from Dave is from Marinette.

Greg Bach

Yeah.

That's a great 93.

Pete Schwaba

Rose balls.

Awesome.

Greg Bach

Dom what do we have left on the text message

still got quite a few got John Murray Texan says watch Greg Norman drain a shot from the bunker at the Western Open at Cog Hill in Illinois the bunkers there are deep bowls and the players can't see out of He was 33 30 feet away and absolutely lost it when he drained the perfect shot So he then broke the course record and lost to Nick Price who also buried on par on a par three stunning

Greg Bach

Wow, there you go.

There you go.

We

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said sports mom

We

got Jason from West Alice as Jason my moment was Hulk Hogan body slamming Andre the giant at WrestleMania 3 We also got Annie from Watertown saying oh a Packers game

Packers game walkie-county stadium late 1970s game stopped.

There were so many paper programs made up Yeah, paper programs made into airplanes covering the field.

Oh, yeah, the crowd was going

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wild.

They were paper programs Yes,

Packers games were that boring anyone else still alive that was there Other than my sister in bro-in-law nice.

Let's see what else we got.

He also says Andy from Waterton says who doesn't take

risks to raise their family, pretty much everyone, with the cry face.

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It's true,

but

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I

would say that

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Lesbian moms and gay fathers,

I would say

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that

they would take huge

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risks.

We just, you know, I get that.

Let's see what else.

I got Jake from Madison saying, favorite sports moment is Badgers be undefeated Kentucky to go to men's basketball title game in 2015.

Favorite team and my favorite sport, really good.

Right on, Jake.

Awesome.

And then Anna says my favorite sport moment is the Miracle on Ice with the US hockey team in the 1980.

Greg Bach

Wow Come on.

Come on right there.

What do we got on the Facebook page there Pete?

Pete Schwaba

Stacy Sue says just watching Muhammad Ali.

That's a great one Mike Desatelle says does Bob Euker doing beer commercials count?

Sure.

It's sports.

Absolutely

Sean Boyce says miracle on ice as much as the team played the way Herb Brooks led them as anything else, no extraneous hype needed.

Modern equivalent would be a decent D one football program playing the 70 hits dealers.

And then finally Emerson layman, our pal from WBAY in green base says the finish to the 2026 Indianapolis 500 Emerson's a big racing

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fan.

That's

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fantastic.

Greg Bach

I got a couple here on my Facebook page.

You see Joe with some lofty thoughts here, the Lions winning Superbowl 61.

Okay.

Yeah.

Chad, this is Randy Johnson vaporizing the pigeon.

Oh, wow.

That was something.

That's so sad.

And he won't talk about to this day.

He hates when people bring it up.

Oh, okay.

Ryan says at least we know it won't be interrupted by OJ Simpson and the infamous white Bronco.

All right.

Good reference.

Good reference right there.

We did have one more left from John Murray in Madison.

It's a little bit longer one, but we do have time.

Dom, do you want to read that one really quick regarding the

Blue Jays?

Just

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in chapter one, John.

Yeah, exactly.

1978, St.

Joseph Blue Jays boys basketball team won the DOC can conference championship in Aurora, Illinois.

Okay, whatever.

The Blue Jays class size are 33.

All their schools were top.

It was a crazy, everyone turned on the radio.

It was amazing.

Never forget that feeling at the end of the day.

Pete Schwaba

That's what it is.

We had a moment like that in Marinette, an actual Hoosier moment in 1964.

There was a big picture on the wall.

We beat Xavier, I think, for the State Championship.

Greg Bach

Nice.

Love those moments.

I'm surprised you didn't have that on your list.

I was.

I wasn't even born yet.

We got to get on out of here, but tomorrow we'll be talking to Mike Clemens about all things sports, probably specifically some Packer sports as well.

So stick around for that.

And we'll be talking about brewers as well, but that'll be in the first hour.

And then nightlight movie club.

We'll be talking about the outsider.

So watch it, get in touch with us.

Let us know, but we all be right back here tomorrow.

Same bat time, same bat station.

Thank you so much.

Everyone who called texted live a comment on the live stream.

We really appreciate you.

Engineering traffic, Dom and Tucker.

Thank you for all the work you do.

It's time to skip on out of here, but.

Listen to more programming after we're done.

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It's civic media.

Pete, say good night to the people.

Good night, Wisconsin.

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