Mike Siegel on Comedy, Stand-Up & Life on the Road (Hour 1)

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Dude!

Welcome to nightlight ladies and gentlemen It is Friday.

You made it.

We all made it.

We're still here and We've got a lot to talk about tonight.

This is nightlight with peach wabba and Greg block on the civic media network Dom Lee is working the board in Madison and It's good to see you guys on this Friday.

How we doing

doing pretty good doing pretty good I mean, I I'm going to a Mexican restaurant after this and I am so excited.

I'm gonna have

I'm gonna have real food.

I'm just very excited.

It's gonna be it's a nice.

It's a nice Friday.

It's a way you said that I'm going

to a

Mexican restaurant.

I'm going to a Mexican,

you know

Your first time or you'd never even like you're venturing into uncharted

waters, you know, I haven't gone in so long So I haven't gone to

really

not many restaurants like a sit-down restaurant I haven't really gone to many sit-down restaurants.

So this is gonna be this is gonna be new for me

The nice thing is you don't need reservations or a title challenge.

You can just walk right in and

that's exciting.

I'm good for you.

Yeah.

Can we like, uh, how do you say big arch in Spanish?

Greg, you were a little cranky before the show and I don't

air my dirty laundry to the world.

I'm

fine.

Speaking of laundry.

I'll tell, actually, I'll

tell you, I'm going to, I'm going to talk more about that.

Why am I, I'm a touch cranky.

in our big stories.

Cause one of the stories has to do with me being cranky.

So, but yeah, it's just, it's, you know, it's, it's, it's a day and it's not a bad day.

It's not a great day.

It's just the day, but at the end of it, I got to sit back and take note, take stock and be grateful

for what I

do have.

It's true.

And that's not a grading card type of thing to say, or people are like, it is what it is, whatever.

I don't like that saying at all.

But I have a lot to be grateful for, a lot to be thankful for.

So when I go home tonight after the show, and honestly, and I'm not kidding you, I can be very, very moody sometimes.

And when I come here and do the show with the two of you and listen to everything that people have to say to us, I always walk away happier.

There

you go.

That is not lip service.

You know what, Tom?

Serious.

Our little domers.

I'm sorry.

It was good.

It was good.

It was.

Well, time.

But I agree with what you're saying.

There were times when I, whether it was this iteration of the show or the previous one, when I go on the air, honestly, I don't know if it's what we're talking about or the listeners or techs,

but

we're just hanging out with you guys.

It can really bully your spirits.

So to speak.

I hear what you're saying.

Boat talk.

Wow.

Someone lives on a lake.

I'm wearing my top side.

I am not a boatsman.

I want to make that very clear.

I don't the water does not do it for me.

I'm not an outdoorsy guy.

I'm not a hunter.

I'm not a fisher.

I'm not a boater and I live in the capital of all those things.

It's very bizarre.

I know I'm actually none of those things either.

Although I would love to be a boatman.

I would love to have a pontoon boat, but that's for another discussion someday.

I

would love to have a pontoon.

It's the only boat worth having in my opinion.

I'm making out of that Christmas grab that on

the can you put that in the budget for next year like when we're you know when we're Syndicated to 38 cities and I'll have pontoon money

Even if I okay, but here's how I am as a human being I don't know about the two of you But let's say in an alternate universe or just let's say in a year's time.

Oh my gosh nightlight with Pete and Greg is just it's just it's a it's a smash fire sensation It's across the country.

We are you know, and they're just like hey, how much how much do we make the check for cash out to?

If I had disposable income enough for a pontoon boat, I would probably not still not buy it

Well, you just said you want to one why

why

why there's a lot of things I

want

and even though I have a mind I have the money to have a mind I still sit there and go That's I should should save my money Yeah, put it away invest it pay off bills pay down this do this just make sure you know it's I'm not I'm I am awful ask my wife I am awful with spending money on myself if I want to buy something it takes me a solid One to six weeks to do it to bring myself into a place like all right.

I can do this.

I'm fine

And I still then go through a little bit of, of remorse.

Dude, that, that is really crazy because I'm like that too.

Like even when I need something, I researched the living daylights out of this.

Then I, then I pause, then

I

wait like a week to make sure I, it's really weird.

And I, that's really interesting.

You say that I'm the exact same way.

I'm going to share something with you guys here now.

If you'll allow me to pivot.

I threw away six pairs of underpants today.

Can we get that

on again?

Can we get that off?

It's not an awe or cute moment in any way though.

Are you curious why I threw them away?

No,

we're moving

on to the question.

You're already

feeling better,

buddy.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, go

ahead.

Tell us.

These were new underpants, okay?

Here's my issue.

I don't do boxers.

I don't do boxer briefs.

I had to get something new.

And I bought this underwear.

It was on sale at TJ Maxx.

I always go discount underwear because it used to be name brand.

It was called Pappy.

P-A-P-I, which means father or dad in Spanish.

Pappy.

It's not Pappy.

It's Pappy.

It's Pappy.

That's how you pronounce it?

Oh, Pappy.

But it means the same thing, right?

Yeah.

It means father.

Yeah.

Okay.

So that was on the box.

I said, okay, I can work with this.

I'll throw the box out.

It kind of grossed me out.

Every pair of underwear had poppy on the front elastic.

I'm like,

I can't wear

these.

So what?

Who cares?

Why?

Why?

Where are you going out in the world where someone goes, like, hey, what is your underwear?

I say, nobody knows.

You

just threw

away underwear that was perfectly fine because of people assuming you had a Spanish word on it.

I

don't know.

I have nothing to do with if it said, you know, Casa on it.

That'd be great.

But the daddy thing, the father thing, I don't like that.

I didn't like it on my underwear.

And I thought if I take a header off my bike or something and somebody finds me, oh, he was a weirdo.

So I got, I just had to chuck them.

I can't do it.

I don't like the word daddy.

And it

just

grossed me

out.

We're going deeper into this and I thought we were going to.

First

of all, you're bringing out the old, you know, wear some clean underwear before you go out a gambit there.

Why didn't you just donate them?

Like underwear?

I mean if it's clean and

I like my fruit of why it would have been my fruit of the loom I really like it's sturdy.

I mean

I

mean I

mean like the thing is is if that same thing happened to me they'd like to be like hey this guy likes to you know rope steer because mine say wrangle around them but I don't have a problem but Craig that's better that's not

like a

It's suggestive word in any way.

Like here comes daddy with my poppy underwear.

It was just weird.

I can't I can't wear those

I Gotta look this up now Because like it's only weird because you're making it weird

And it would only be

weird

for real, yes, it would only be weird for real if you walked around the world with your underwear on.

And then if people said, why does it say poppy?

And then you were like, why are you looking at my underwear?

Like no one would know.

And you just threw away six good pieces of clothing.

If you're

a

saggy,

you know.

It cost ten bucks.

So I was sort of

They're trying to sample different underwear and I do that at Ross or TJ

Maxx.

Oh boy.

I just looked I made a mistake and Google that.

Holy God.

Bad idea.

What?

Well, no, it's I put in poppy PAPI underwear and I thought that would be the name brand instead other images showed up.

So I'm just saying that right now.

So if they ever look and see why my search history looks like this, they know it was for professional reasons, but

Yeah, still, I don't know, man.

It's a joke.

Hey, that's a stand-up joke right there.

Write that down.

Write that down.

I

love my wife

or... Honestly, if it said I

love my wife, I'd actually be more weirded out because it's like those when you see those bumper stickers that say, I love my wife.

I'm like, what did you do?

Instead of flowers, you just put a bumper sticker because you screwed up real hard there

Ralph.

That's great.

Oh my goodness.

I just had to get that off my chest because I did feel bad throwing away perfectly good underpants.

But I just, I don't know.

That was weird.

And you've seen what they look like now, Greg.

So you're with me.

No, I don't

think, actually, I don't know what they look like because what showed up on my search was not what I think you would be wearing.

Not

at all.

My descriptions are barely FCC compliant.

So we'll just go ahead.

Yeah.

Yeah, there you go.

Hey, just go on Amazon.

That's what I do.

I do the same thing.

I do the same thing.

Yeah.

I found

a

winner.

I'm happy now.

Dana in La Crosse listening in says 15 minutes of underwear talk.

Great show guys.

I don't know.

Dana, is that sarcasm or are you really riveted by our underpants discussions?

But, you know, Hey, this is our show and we do what we want to do.

All right.

We're not afraid to tackle.

We're not afraid to tackle the tough subject.

Dana, I'm sorry if that offends you.

Yeah, exactly.

We're living our lives.

Journey, journeying our journey.

Let's talk about the question.

Okay, question.

Question.

Question.

Pregunta.

Question.

Question.

Okay, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Domanda.

Question.

Question.

Questions.

All right, we got a good one tonight, folks.

What is one of your favorite lyrics from a song?

Like, I'm one of those people, I like great voice, great instrument or musicians, all that kind of stuff, but I love...

song writing.

I love great lyrics and a voice with soul.

You don't have to be Pavarotti.

I mean,

my

favorite is Bruce Springsteen.

He doesn't have a technically beautiful voice or anything, but it's got soul.

I love passion.

Passion.

Exactly.

So what is one of your favorite lyrics from a song?

Yeah, I think that's a lot of fun to that

one.

Absolutely.

Got a lot of comment.

I got a lot of comments on my own Facebook page here.

So we're going to have a lot of great stuff.

So folks, yeah, if you're out there right now.

Drop your favorite lyrics right now on the live stream, on the texta to us.

Let us know.

You can email it in, Pete.

They can email us.

Do it.

How do they do that, Greg?

They'd email us, N-I-T-E-L-I-T, nightlight at civicmedia.us.

You can do that right now.

You can also, here's the thing too, folks, you can send us your thoughts on four, like a movie club.

You know,

our

suggestions on the movie club, which we do every Thursday.

And Pete, do we have an announcement regarding that as well?

That's called

a segment that

I did not get out very well.

No, it was

great.

We have our senior producer, Tucker, who we're all really starting to like.

I think we have to admit Tucker's a pretty good guy.

Yeah.

Pete's really starting to like him.

So it's Tucker's turn to pick.

He went Ghostbusters.

I think that's a fantastic choice.

We're doing

what's really funny too is like.

Two weeks ago, I gave blood and at the blood center, they're always playing like classic movies and they were playing Ghostbusters and I

was done.

My wife was still going, but I was done.

And I'm like, I'm just going to sit here and watch the movie for a while.

That's

awesome.

Oh, that's great.

See, I never

get that lucky when I'm waiting for

something.

Hey, let's get to what we've got a couple of a few news stories here.

Like we always do three of them would be exact.

Let's get the first one out of here because I'm very excited about this one.

Yeah.

The

first big story.

Well, as many of you know, I am from Christmas City, USA.

I live in Marinette, Wisconsin.

And one of my native brethren, sisters, siblings, whatever you want to call her, Kaylee Francois, I hope I'm saying that right, or Francis, is set for a prominent Kentucky Derby role.

This was on NBC 26 in Green Bay.

I had no idea there was a Marinette resident who used to be a jockey.

But now she does content and she does hosting and all kinds of stuff.

Um, and she's working with twins fires to bring exclusive Kentucky Derby content with trainers, jockeys owners.

I cannot wait to see what she does.

I can't wait to try to get her on the show.

I think it's cool.

I never

talked to a jockey, Greg.

Neither have I.

I mean,

I, I, I own jockey underwear, but I don't talk to it.

So it doesn't really count.

See, I just, that's a callback under our callback.

I had some, I threw them away.

That's, that's,

that's, that's the, that's the mind of a great comedian.

No one to get rid of material.

Hey, it's cotton.

It's, it's material nonetheless.

Um, so anyway, I thought that was really cool.

Kayleigh, I hope you crush it at the Kentucky Derby, whether it's content or whatever you're doing and please come on nightlight.

I will reach out.

She was in the local four H club for God's sakes and her father knows

horses.

She knows horses, and she's crushing it.

So go get them, Kaylee, the most exciting two minutes in sports.

Hey, folks, we got a couple more things we got to get to, and we'll do that after this very short break.

This is Nightlight

with Pete Schwabba and Greg Bach on the Civic Media Network.

Welcome back.

This is Nightlight with Peach Wabba and Greg Bach.

We have some great texts.

Maybe we'll wait till Mike is here and we'll read a few of these texts.

I don't know what I started here.

But anyway, I am Peach Wabba, sitting or joining you from Northeast Wisconsin.

Just down the coast for me is Greg Bach, the human thumb.

The human.

We'll just

leave it at the human.

The what?

What'd you call me?

And he got lots of words.

Um, the human dictionary.

I've

got the biggest brain.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Totally.

So

marketable.

So marketable.

Uh, Pete, we forgot to mention

something

before.

Go ahead,

Greg.

You mentioned it.

Uh, it is Friday and that can only mean one thing.

And that means we are in casual Friday.

Dom hit it.

That is outstanding.

Thank you guys.

So

relaxing.

It is.

I can't believe we have an hour and a half more of radio to do because I just want to crawl into bed in my final sheets.

Tonight's question, folks, is what is one of your favorite lyrics from a song?

Or you could share a couple.

I shared a couple on Facebook.

Let's celebrate some good songwriting tonight.

But first, let's get to a couple more.

Oh, we have a guest too.

Mike Siegel will be here in just a few minutes, folks.

He is the

He was was the host of movie break on TBS.

He's been in the movie traffic He's hosted if walls could talk what you get for the money and he was on Byron Allen's comics unleashed last week So we'll talk to him about that.

He will be here after the news Very excited to talk to my pal Mike, but right now we've got a couple more news stories to get to on this casual Friday

This one coming out of people.com I love this story because it just kind of one it The setting is a place where we've all been if you've flown where you are sitting on a plane You are delayed and you're frustrated.

You know that you can't go anywhere Well one man sitting in Chicago waiting to get to his destination decided he couldn't take it anymore He got up and wanted to open the door

And the folks were very much on board with these.

He had a lot of, he had a lot of supporters.

They were basically, they were flying from Atlanta.

They don't even actually say where they were flying to, it says.

I thought they were, they were in Atlanta, but it's irrelevant.

I mean,

the

guy is just,

they, so they were, they, they, they were flying from Atlanta, but then they had to be grounded in Chicago for weather problems.

And so they were, they were delayed.

This guy didn't want to take it anymore.

So he decided he was going to open up the door and leave.

Well, and there's a video that goes along with this.

And what I love is the back and forth.

So he said loudly, how long have we been delayed already?

Three, four hours.

And now you're talking in an hour.

Get me to the gate.

I want off or I will take myself off.

Well, he decided he was going to do that.

And this is what I love is the, the attendant says,

Oh my god, who are you?

And the entire, not the people on the plane goes, doesn't matter.

And the guy goes, doesn't matter exactly.

Do you know who matters?

Me.

I told you idiots.

And then-

Whoa.

The captain gets involved, but not coming into the room, not coming into the cabin.

He just gets on his air phone and goes, sir, sir, this is the captain.

Hey, sir, sir, this is the captain speaking.

We are going back to the gate right now.

And he just responds with, yeah, good idea.

Here's my favorite part of the story.

We don't know where they were flying.

And they don't even say what happened to the guy.

They just left it as like, no one wanted to mess with this dude.

And he was, he was over it.

Wow.

Yeah.

We've all been there.

You're like, just go back.

Let us sit in the terminal.

You sympathize with the guy.

Absolutely.

I agree with you, and I sympathize with this guy, but yeah, delays suck.

We get it.

I've been stuck.

Same thing.

Probably four hours is my

record,

and it's awful, and you're claustrophobic, and it's terrible, and you still haven't even done the flight yet.

It's awful, but he just made it worse for everybody else,

it seems like.

They got, they, they, they said the plane was carrying 168 passengers was taxi back to the gate and the man was moved by security.

They didn't save whether he was arrested, charged or anything.

It was investigated by, it was investigated by maintenance.

They left later that evening, but he, him not, him doing it honestly doesn't really dictate whether or not they, I mean, four hours.

And actually he said they

were going on

five.

Thank God for my man.

I just love

it.

Who are you?

Doesn't

matter.

It could really find out too.

Let's get to

our third big story.

Okay, Greg, this is from talker.

One word can pretty much describe how Americans feel.

It's almost a consensus here in 2026.

We're only four months in, about to enter, just entered our fifth month.

Stressful.

Really?

Why would that be the word?

Just because of an unnecessary war, crazy high gas prices or inflation, pedophiles running amok at our highest levels of government in corporate America?

I don't know.

Why don't you

just relax, America?

God, as the kids say, take a chill pill.

Totally that was part like you know I said you you mentioned it earlier one of the reasons why I was just kind of in a cruddy mood is like I passed the gas station today and there's two stations in Kenosha it's 449 now I know that for some people out like whether it's New York or California other states they're like oh big deal well it is a big deal 449 is a lot and in Wisconsin we are way above the national average and it just really stressed me out plus I also and this sounds like just such a whatever problem but

like our dog groomer really raised their prices and now it's like nearly a hundred bucks just to get her a bath and a cut like I'm like I guess I'm gonna learn how to do this

stuff myself

because I just I'm I cannot like it it released because because those are just two examples of other things that are going up in price and they're becoming more and more expensive and we're just trying to live a regular life that's so that's why I came in kind of hot this afternoon before the show because I'm like

How

often do you, does your dog, do you do that?

Do you pay for her to have a bath or him?

I mean, her, her name is Maybell.

Um, you know, I don't know, like in, in a few times a quarter, we do the bathing

ourselves, but yeah, we do

the bathing ourselves, but like for, for the, for the, the

grooming.

Yeah.

It's

just, it's just frustrating.

The news is coming up next, folks.

Then Mike Siegel joins us.

I am Pete Schwabbe.

He's Greg Bach.

And this is Nightlight on the Civic Media Network.

Welcome back.

This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabbe and Greg Bach coming to you live on the Civic Media Network.

Mike Siegel joins us in just a moment.

We have some texts here.

I just have to read these because of my underpants discussion.

You're right.

John Murray.

Came in hot Greg.

He said, uh, first of all, he said, get the boat and live your life.

I should clarify.

I don't want a boat.

I don't like he may been

talking to me about it too,

but a

use pontoon boat runs about 20 to 35 grand.

Wow.

Yeah.

No, thank you.

Um, John also says, don't wait.

It's stupid.

Getting old happens really fast.

Okay.

Then he says you will have a whole new set of geezer excuses, not two.

And he says, like Peter's excuses.

Oh boy.

All right, John.

And then Brett says, Oh my God, P to M with you.

That's weird to have on your underwear.

And yes, throw it out because who the heck is buying used underwear?

So there you go.

You

weren't buying.

No, I bought it new, but I threw it away because

there might be folks out there who need something.

But join the fun folks.

Let us know what your favorite song lyric is.

We're celebrating songwriting tonight here on Nightlight.

And with that in mind, we will bring in, and this is Casual Friday.

I have to read

it.

We're all, I have a shirt with a collar on, but I panicked at the last moment and put that on, but it's still Casual Friday.

Let's welcome our first and only guest of the night on Casual Friday.

He is an actor, a TV host and a comedian.

He is the former host of if walls could talk what you get for the money.

And probably every other HGTV show he joins us now over the stream.

He also hosts a great podcast called travel tales, Mike Siegel.

Hey buddy, how are you?

Hey, Pete.

How are this is the most, uh, Wisconsin discussion that I've walked into underpants and pontoon boats.

That's what I walk into right here.

This is a very casual Friday.

Right now in a tavern in Wisconsin somewhere over a fish fry.

That having the exact same discussion.

That's

what's happening.

Why is the underwear?

I don't know.

They love their

underwear.

They said I bought underwear that said Pappy on the box.

And I think that's weird, but I thought I'll throw the box away.

But then I get each individual pair said

Pappy or poppy right on the elastic.

I can't I can't walk around like that

First of all, where are you walking around that people are gonna see your underwear?

I'm one of the guys you know the guys at the Y. I don't want to embarrass We

can just take we can just take a marker and just mark out the eye and just put E E Y E and be like Popeye

Yeah, it's not weird at all.

No.

Oh, but

throwing away underwear because you're self-conscious is totally weird.

Are the pappies comfortable at least?

Are

they?

No, they weren't

particularly.

I might have

chucked them anyway, even

if it said.

We talking a boxer brief or is it a boxer?

Yeah, what

was it?

It was a low-rise bikini.

Low-rise bikini.

They weren't good old-fashioned briefs, you know, which I hadn't worn in 30 years, but you know.

Oh, no,

Greg.

They were tidy.

Uh, one was yellow.

One was a hot pink.

One was blue.

One was black.

One was gray.

And then yeah, I'm really upset.

You threw all of these out.

It could have been Christmas tree ornaments or something in Christmas

city.

USA in

Christmas city.

USA.

Exactly.

Mike, how the heck are you?

Welcome to the show, buddy.

I'm doing good.

Pete.

Thanks for, uh, thanks for having me.

It's always a pleasure and congrats on the new show here.

Yeah, thanks.

And this is your first time on our new version.

So it's great that we get that out of the way.

But I wanted to ask you, you had this great spot.

It was very funny on Byron Allen Comics Unleashed.

Here's my thing with Byron Allen.

I know a lot of people that are co-bearer fans probably aren't thrilled that he's going to be the new host.

He's buying the time.

It's kind of a weird thing.

I actually have a lot of admiration for Byron Allen.

The guy went around with a microphone and a video thing and he's worth a billion dollars now just putting all of his things he's recorded on TV.

It's pretty cool.

So my first run in with Byron, it was not run in, but I mean, so he basically got started.

Well, he knew I'll back it up.

So it was about 20 years ago when I'm hosting my show, TBS Movie Extra on TBS.

And I did a lot of

film junkets, a lot of movie junkets.

So we would go and this one happened to be in Miami.

So I'm flying back from Miami and we are sat together.

And at this point, he only had a syndicated show that was basically, I think it was called like celebrities with Byron Allen or kicking it with Byron Allen.

It was

basically

any and I

On the on the flight back, he kind of gave me his whole spiel.

You know, we kind of met and talk.

He found out I was a comic, you know, he started out as a comic.

And but he kept bringing up things like, yeah, I was on this.

He said, yeah, I was in the 70s.

I was on the show real people.

I go, yeah, I know who you are.

I know who you are.

And then he'd bring it up and then I did this.

Yeah, I know who you are, Byron.

OK.

But then.

But basically his I don't know what his connection was.

Maybe he knew some.

Uh, publicists or something, but he got into these junkets, which were all free to press, you know, they're all in a hotel.

So whenever anybody out there sees an interview with a celebrity and the poster for the movie that they're plugging is behind them, that's usually that it's a free press junket.

So, uh, you're led into a room, they have two cameras set up, three, sometimes if they have a two shot and one on me, one on him.

And you go in there, you get five minutes into the room.

And you ask your, you know, whatever.

So tell me what it was like working with Tom Hanks and you get your answers and blah, blah, blah.

They give you a press kit with clips of the movie and they send you home to your affiliate and Tulsa or wherever you're from.

And that was it.

So he would get into all these and just get all the footage, which is all free and cobbled the show together and went and sold it as an independent producer.

And his deal back then he told me I think he would go to what there's a convention called natby, which is basically television producers Have these conventions and people from affiliates all over the country syndicators and everything they If you run the we'll go back to Tulsa again if you run the you know channel 8 in Tulsa and you're the program director You need stuff to put on the air so they go and buy shows they'll buy you know old sitcom reruns or whatever

And his deal was he would go and just give, he says, I'll give you the show for free.

And we just split the advertising.

So that's how we did it.

And so he got, and people were just like, well, we'll take free programming and we need some stuff to show it to in the morning.

And we can sell it's either him or Infomercials.

Infomercial, yeah.

Which with infomercials, you would get all your money up front, the station, but nobody really watched them.

But you would get all your money up front, but it makes your kind of station look like

you're showing

infomercials So this was a way for them to put programming on that was free to them And you could go to the local pizza joint and say hey you want to buy time

or

whatever So he did this all around the country and that's where he first got He built up his empire and now it truly is an empire.

I mean it

is yeah amazing But this model that he's doing like he's buying two hours of

This was a deal that like a small, maybe cable network would do late at night, not CBS.

So that should tell you where the television industry is

going.

But, you know, people make fun of Byron, but the guy's a billionaire, man.

He's a genius.

He's, he's the one and I'm in LA still.

And there's a lot of people out of work and not making money.

And he's one of the people that are working.

So that are working.

That's it is working.

Yeah.

I

speak.

I

speak.

He's

so big.

He's so big.

He's so successful.

He's plural human beings.

He's yeah.

He are working.

He are.

He's Byron's Alan.

He's by

the weather channel.

He bought the weather channel for Chrome.

Oh my God.

Right.

I don't know.

Business wise, I'm in awe of him.

I just sad to see him replacing Stephen Colbert.

But

you know, the running gag amongst the comics is like, you know, it's basically

It's a very cheap show

to

produce the comic.

They don't have to hire writers.

They just have producers and they bring you on and there's four, but I mean, they can crank out six shows a day taping like a game show.

And it's a long day, but they were doing four the day I was there.

So each taping takes about two hours and they woulddle it down to

24 minutes or whatever it is.

So it is a machine, man.

And it's crazy.

It's a lot.

But, you know, we would make fun of them in terms of, like, amongst comics, just because there's no segue.

It's not even pretending to be a conversation.

It's like, so, Mike, you like roller coasters, right?

And then just like, I love roller coaster bit.

Your buddy Gary Brightwell posted something below you.

It's like, Byron Allen is the king of segues.

Mike, you've changed an outlet, right?

Or whatever

it was you said.

It's like, what?

You know, I have Byron and here's my two minute pit run.

Mike, you have a joke about buses.

Go.

All right.

Yeah.

Literally that way.

There was a, there was

a show back in the early nineties when, when Ha and the comedy channel were slowly becoming comedy central.

Yeah, I know.

Older than dumb.

And there was a show, a talk show called stand up, sit down with Paul for Paul Provenza.

It

was the same idea.

And remember as a kid, not understanding.

the format, like not understanding what this was about and being like, why do they just keep doing their, like have a conversation?

I didn't realize until later, I'm like, oh, this is all just to make them do their bits.

But I was just like,

every time he says something, they just go, they just talk for like two and a half minutes.

I'm like, but, but.

growing up with that now, like that, that framework for Byron L makes, makes sense.

Hey, hey, Mike, you, uh, you enjoy, uh, you enjoy, uh, uh, uh, broiled chicken, right?

Yeah.

Talk about it.

Let me tell you about broiled chicken.

And you go up into your, you know, your time-tested chicken bit, you

know,

that's my

closer.

Yeah.

But we had to look at it and go, you know, as, as, as much as, as, um, flacky takes for it.

But.

There's not many places on network TV now where a standups can perform.

Like tonight show puts on some comics every once in a while.

Kimmel, not really.

No, Colbert wasn't putting guys on.

And so it's like, you're not doing other person's bits.

You're doing your own bits on national TV.

Colbert

was Colbert was for a moment.

Colbert was for a moment.

And then that really dropped off at a friend

of mine.

A friend of mine said that.

you know, he's not even at the desk when you're doing it.

He doesn't like stand up.

So

he just

like, you do your

bit and that's

like, it was really disappointing.

I wish they never told me that I'm, I'm not expecting Colbert to come in and like, you know, put them on their shoulder.

Like this is the next big thing.

But when the host doesn't even want to be there cause they don't want to listen to any stand.

I'm like, then why are you even doing this in the

first place?

Because,

and I'm

in the, both of you can attest to this, you know,

It's not like the, I mean, the old days, I wasn't going to stand up back in the eighties, but like, you know, I remember I was opening up for Sean, Shane, Shane Moss, and I asked him, what do you want for your credits?

And he said, I've been on Conan five times.

And I was like, and you're playing here.

Like

it's

just not like the old days where like you're on you're on late night once and here comes Hollywood and knock and here's

your

TV deal.

Here's your commercials.

And you know, it's it's just harder and harder.

And nowadays, like getting a late night set, I think the only place still that does it consistently is still the tonight show.

Yeah.

And it does it.

What it does is impresses your family.

Yes.

You know, it's still it gives you that your family cares about and your parents love.

But in terms of moving, moving the needle in your career, it really doesn't do any.

Thing anymore, so I mean you still have to have your you know five different things You got to have your podcast

your

YouTube channel you're you

got to be all over your

social oh my god and doing everything so it That's gonna fill seats being on the tonight show or any of these shows really that's not the thing that's gonna fill you seats I mean you use it as for promotion.

It's a great piece of tape that you can you know give out but and

but no, it's not changing anybody's life anymore.

It's nice and it's great to say you're on TV, but you know, it's not what it was.

Like most things, it's not what it was.

I used to produce a lot of comedy shows and one thing that happened after the pandemic, like 2021, 2022, the outreach emails were no longer, Hey, these are the places I've done.

This is a TV.

It's like, I have 150,000 followers.

Yeah.

And that's how meetings, that's how meetings in Hollywood go.

That's what you said.

Yeah, they want

to know how many they want to know what your social media imprint is, your footprint, how many Instagram followers are now TikTok or any YouTube and that kind of thing.

So.

Let's pick it

up there.

Mike, we got to do a really short break, and then we'll come back with Mike Siegel.

We'll have a few more minutes.

And when we come back, Tom, let's hear some of his performance on Byron Allen Comics on Leash.

Mike Siegel's here, folks.

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