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Mike Clemens on the Packers Draft Picks (Hour 2)
Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Mon Apr 27, 2026
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The name of the little Caesar mascot.
Isn't it Caesar?
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Little Caesar.
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Starring the, you know, sorely missed Mr. Ray Liotta, Joe Pashy, Robert DeNiro, the sorely missed Mr. Paul Servino, who I think he won an Oscar for that.
No, I don't think he won an Oscar for that.
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that he's no longer scary.
He's just funny to me.
And also there's that scene where like one of the movies I've never seen any, but he's like riding a tricycle.
I'm like, well, I'm I'm supposed to be afraid of that.
Like I can kick that across the football field.
Why am I afraid of that thing?
But yeah, now I just see parodies of jigsaw everywhere.
So I'm like, that's that's adorable.
The creature from the black, anything below the surface of water is horrifying.
And the creature from the black lagoon is a good one.
Also the movie Crawl that came out years ago, a few years ago with Barry Pepper, where that alligators were everywhere because it was flooding.
That was creepy.
Like if you went swimming in a lake, you still were like, Oh, what's below?
Is there a shark?
Is there?
Is there?
What's that touching me?
It's just, it's just some, like, you know, lake weed.
It's not seaweed cause not to see it's just lake.
It was, he's great.
He is a really good actor.
And it's that Mike says he always creeps me out.
I think it's his eyes.
I'm told he's a great guy in real life, but on the screen, he's not someone you want to cross.
That's true.
He's also the guy.
Interesting.
Fun fact.
He will not kiss another woman.
um, no, uh, Daniel on social media response to Mike and he says, the guy is a devout Christian and won't even do a kissing scene in his movies because he loves his wife that much.
Okay.
I think he also started turning down villainous movie roles.
He does play a good villain though.
Ian says, did not maintain a loneliness of command difference with his NCOs and froze when he had to make difficult decisions.
I don't see it as a character defect.
He certainly went on to be a very successful lawyer in DA.
I don't know who I maybe still talking about Neil McDonough.
I think
that was a
That's, I mean, like, yes, the Pennywise that's been created in the past, like five years as deaf, it's designed to be terrifying.
But the thing about Tim Curry's Pennywise is that while it does look scary, it could, it could be a clown you see at a circus until it opens its mouth.
But yeah, the, the, the original TV, the two part TV, remember that Pete back in the day?
TV miniseries are made for TV movies, like movie of the week.
Yeah,
as
of, there's a real
even though he came
I remember being, I can't remember, I was, it was little.
It was when the movie first came out and I was camping with my sister and her friends and they were talking about this movie in the middle of the night in the dark and I was horrified.
This notion that there's a guy who kills you when you're asleep.
And then they describe him like, well, I hate all of this.
I want to go home right now.
So Freddie Krueger for as like old of a villain as he is always stays in my head as terrifying, period.
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Were there any other comments on the live stream or not in the live stream, but on the Facebook about tonight's question, which is what monster from the movie scares you the most?
I'd say the fifth round.
I went to Rob Demoski who covers the team for ESPN.
We've both been doing this for at least 30 years.
Can I ask you a question?
Is this like the most boring draft we've ever covered?
And he goes, right?
You know, shaking our heads because there was no pick Thursday night and a couple on Friday.
The players that they're picking are like, okay, good kid.
They're just peeling names off the board.
There wasn't much drama to it.
There's a need to replace Malik Willis at quarterback.
An NFL draft analyst that I talked to last week had said, Cole Payton, look for this kid out of North Dakota State, same school that Christian Watson's from.
He's kind of like a Tiffin Hill guy, a guy that the Packers had drafted.
Didn't think he would make it a quarterback.
Well, Sean Payton turned into a gadget guy in the Saints, and he had a great career as a backup quarterback, a tight end, et cetera, special teams player.
So right about that time, I tweeted out, you know, the emoji with a couple of eyeballs, like, hey, take a look at this.
I put up Cole Payton's profile from the NFL draft, because right around here, it'd be a chance to take a swing at this.
quarterback is a backup that maybe LaFleur could develop behind Jordan Love.
And all of a sudden, I looked up at the screen and like two picks later, the Eagles took him.
It's like, okay, I guess that guy wasn't far off.
And so no sooner than do we have this discussion about man, this kind of dragon, isn't it?
All of a sudden it's like, hey, hey, Packers around the clock.
No, they're not.
They're not to the seventh round.
They're like 50 picks.
No, no, they traded up.
Oh, geez.
So we run down to the media auditorium and sure enough, you know, the screens are growing up, the microphones are going on and they're bringing down one of the guys from the scouting department.
They traded up to take a kicker, a kicker.
That was the thing that
Well, that's the most surprising moment of the whole weekend.
And when you look at the six players that they drafted, if this guy wins the job, he's most likely to be the first player of all of them that could be playing.
So his name is Trace Mac.
a place kicker out of Florida.
And so then we got a chance to talk to him after they picked him, call him down there and games all and said, you know, have you had any contact with the Packers and have you ever kicked in cold weather games like Green Bay?
I grew up in Maryland, so it's not new to me or, you know, it's always done it, you know, that's kind of how I started out kicking is kicking in cold weather.
Um, you know, I talked to, you know, the Packers and I talked to coach cam and we, we talked for a good bit.
And, you know, I really like his coaching style and, you know, he's an intense guy that, you know, I can, I'll work with and I talked to him and we hit it off.
I think so.
Now I'm here.
Um, and I'm really just excited.
Well, I mean,
And, and, and that's the thing, Mike, you say that.
You know, you ask your colleague if it was a boring draft.
I remember late last night realizing nobody's talking about...
the draft at all.
It's just like no one's like, there was, there was no big highlight.
There was no big headline.
There was nothing of, of real like, did you hear what happened?
It was just sort of like it happened.
And then we're like, all right, cool, moving on.
And I think, I mean, part of it may have been the fact that for Wisconsin, it was bigger last year because it was here in Wisconsin, but it just kind of felt like, yeah, it happened.
We're good.
And we'll see, and we'll see in the summertime when the, when the season begins.
Well, the other thing too is the Packers weren't hyping it much because Brian Kudekin said, we talked about this last week, he kept on
trying to make it clear to us i kinda already got my roster so that's why i said going into this draft these are all rookies man these are all guys are going to the back of the line except for me with that kicker now this is the other drama though is that you've had this veteran brandon mcmanus the last two years actually the last time you tried to draft a kicker and his carlton did not work out mister wide right now it's like oh see mcmanus he had the injury was quad
He missed three kicks in the playoff loss in Chicago to the Bears that cost him seven points.
That could have been the difference.
So we asked Brian Goodykins, so you give up two seventh round picks to trade up and get this trace smack out of Florida as a place kicker.
What does this mean for Brandon McManus?
Yeah.
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Mike Clemens is here talking all things Wisconsin sports and we were talking about.
the NFL draft for this year, which took place this past weekend.
And Mike, you were saying it was a rather boring affair.
Is there anything else that happened, anything of great interest, or is it just like, but that's everything you talked about?
That's pretty much it.
You know, first of all, the draft is always great because it's a bunch of guys have been trying for 10, 12 years to get to this point and to get through high school football.
to get a scholarship now to get paid to get into a a college program and then get a look at from nfl scouts and actually get picked and i have a chance to play in the national football league we're talking about that kind of surprise that brian guttickens made when you thought well maybe we'll take a running back we will take a wide receiver and they trade up to get a place kicker out of florida this trace smack and boy the gift shop at lambo fields going to join so naturally right smack
for a kicker.
I said, I'm a cut here of Brian Goodykins, the GM, where we said, well, that's kind of awkward.
I mean, you know, you got the veteran 35, 36 year old Brandon McBannis who kind of saved the day overall for the last year and a half until the injury until the playoff game against the Bears.
So what does this mean for Brandon McBannis now that you've used a draft pick?
and trade it up to get this rookie.
Let's talk about I want to ask you about a couple of their draft picks, but also Let's look to the NFC north the Bears got an a-minus on their draft which I totally disagree with Lions also got an a-minus and the Vikings got a B How did those teams become more competitive?
How would you measure the Packers draft up against with their prime competitors?
To be honest, I still haven't gotten through the Packers draft even though they just took six players
The Vikings made some moves, though, in terms of their defense, the Greenland going on, where they traded him, that has really got people kind of scratching their heads.
And so I've got to sort of sift that out.
What the Packers did, though, they did fill some needs that they had, because they lost for Sean Geary.
And that's one of the biggest questions.
A guy was a former number one pick out of Michigan and was on his way to a pretty good season.
It doesn't add up why suddenly he wasn't getting any quarterback sacks after Micah Parsons went down with the 20 field.
Unless that meant that teams are spending so much time focused on Parsons, that's how Rashawn Gary was getting his opportunities.
And once Parsons was off the field, then they were figuring out ways to take out Rashawn Gary out of place.
You couldn't get it out of the Packers as this was going on.
what happened to this guy and while
he's
making some mistakes he's trying but he's no longer with the team they traded him to the cowboys they traded quay walker another first round pick uh... or no he left in free agency got a huge deal out of vegas uh... the raiders uh... romeo doubts but they have filled these these needs with either guys they've picked up now in free agency or some of these picks their first pick in the second round is brandon cc a defensive back out of south carolina
who's actually got a former packer that's out there in that program is a player development guy clinton ha ha dicks a former uh... packer and bearer safety uh... he's been out there coaching the kid up so he was their first pic he's young he'll be a project twenty twenty one years old but very athletic then they help out the defensive line with a chris mcclellan out of missouri the tigers that the program is on the rise the player that the the packers are excited about
They couldn't believe he was still on the board starting Saturday.
They tried to trade up to get him Friday night.
Couldn't do it.
His name is Deny Dennis Sutton, number 33 for Penn State, same school that Parsons is from.
As a matter of fact, I won't be surprised as somewhere we'll start calling this guy Mini Micah.
I mean, he looks like Micah Parsons when he was back in Penn State.
40 plus tackles the past two years in a row, eight quarterback sacks,
10 tackle for losses, three block punts last year, three block punts.
That tied the record to Jack Hale.
The Steelers all a famous set back in the day and seven force fumbles and they got this number 33 who's all over the field to add to edge for their new defensive coordinator Jonathan Gannon.
So those are some of the things that the Packers are excited about.
One other
You got a new sheriff in town.
You got a new president, new CEO, Ed Policy.
And he's a lot different than Mark Murphy and in terms of how much publicity he does, you know, I was with them on the tailgate tour.
Whereas Mark Murphy, the former CEO and president would be out there as the emcee, talking to the kids at the high school, introducing the players that they brought along on the bus, handing out the checks.
So Ed was off, you know, stage right.
It was just the players on the stage.
He was there to observe.
Matter of fact, I don't know if he was there for the whole tour because he's got a lot going on with construction and things going on.
They're expanding the equipment department, the training staff, so that you never have to wait if you're a player to get taped up.
And they built us a new media center.
I got a new office at
I can go on and on.
So it's very busy at the people there in the hallways.
I've got to go.
I've got to go to this meeting.
I mean, everybody is running around.
And the big question that Ed did, he did do a Zoom last week, and saying, all right, a lot of people thought after losing five games in a row and not getting to the next level of the playoffs, it was time to fire Matt LaFleur.
And this was Ed Pauli's answer as to why he kept Matt LaFleur for a contract extension.
Ed policy the Packers new CEO and president and Pete and Greg There's one other thing that Ed talked about I thought was very interesting as he turns the page and takes over from Mark and that is The threat that they feel they're under financially and you're again, I can see Packer fan saying come on.
They got a 30 year waiting list
It's the NFL.
It's a multi-billion.
These teams are worth, you know, nine or $10 billion.
What is what?
And he says, this is what I'm up against now.
He said, you know, Green Bay, of course, very unique with the shareholders and everything.
But they're starting to see NFL teams doing what the NBA has done.
And so like, I don't know, a guy like Jerry Jones could say, you know what?
I can let in a partner for 5% in the worth of the team.
That's $250 million.
300, 400,000 dollars.
You want to build a new building, a new office, building a new training facility that will track free agents, that will help your team, help your players.
They just let in some guy, they give him a suite, and make him a part of the club, part of the family, and he can't compete with that.
So he did an interview with a sports journal where he said they misquoted me.
I did not say I'm selling the naming rights to Lambeau Field, but I am saying there's other ways that we got to find revenue streams
because that's what I'm up against in the league right now.
What are there any revenue streams they are currently entertaining then if they can't do certain things?
Are they not allowed to bring in any sort of minor?
They sell the stocks, and that's a great way of making money and people hanging on their wall, and that's great.
But are they allowed to sell any sort of 2% to 3% stock in the team to help bring in revenue, or is that just absolutely not on the table?
Yeah, they can't they can't do like what some of these other private owners he said listen Yeah, you know everybody talks about our salary cap in the NFL.
It's a soft salary cap It doesn't cover what you pay coaches It doesn't cover what you pay in signing bonuses So, you know it limits what Russ Balder the finance guy and their GM can do when it comes to signing these contracts for players But there's a whole lot of money and again the you know these teams are they're not just owned by like
George Hallis, you know, football guy.
They're owned by billionaires with a lot of free time on their hands.
You know, it's like the yacht races in Cape Cod.
And they will throw hundreds of millions of dollars at a problem at a new stadium, at a new club, those kinds of things that at the end of the day gets more and more competitive, not only on the football field or the basketball court, et cetera.
But here's another thing that I learned, too.
the brewers you know that you know the brewers dropped fan-dual-tv and now they had to scramble and come up with their own mlb you know based brewers tv until they figure out what's next they lost twenty million dollars in revenue and so you know one analyst said that seems like a bucket a drop in the bucket for these teams right if it's worth five billion dollars and mark entinasio is here to tell you okay think of your house let's say you got a three hundred thousand dollar house and all of a sudden your furnace goes
You may even own your house.
That's still $15,000, $20,000.
You've got to spend on a new HVAC.
Where is that coming from?
That's what it feels like.
$20 million, that could be what their grounds crew budget is.
Or
Well, there's one thing that we all know about Mark Antanasio and the brewer is that $20 million absolutely does make a difference.
I mean, we're not talking about a 300 to $350 million payroll team here.
We're talking about a team that regularly comes at or below the average, but it is an apt description.
And I mean, I'll be interested, I don't know about Pete, but I'll be very interested to see what they do to bring up that money.
Like if they need more money, how they're going to do it then in this situation.
Yeah, so in the meantime they're being savvy with the way they pick players and they like this Kyle Harrison They like this David Hamilton who can play third base can play shortstop great speed around the bases They pick them up from the Boston Red Sox and they send Caleb Durbin who'd won the third base job last year in Milwaukee pretty good hitter Caleb goes to Boston.
He goes like one for 17 at the plate
You know Harrison strikes out 12 batters yesterday when they beat the Tigers 5-0.
The Red Sox just fired their manager and their entire coaching staff.
was Mike Clemens, Civic Media, Sports Authority, Sports Guru, our buddy talking all things packers and a little bit brewers.
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What monster is the, what monster from the movies is scariest, scares you the most?
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And, um, what else we got?
Like, I think, uh, it's, it was a good show, guys.
It was a good show.
Yeah, it was fun.
Yeah.
I enjoyed
I hate gore and jump scares.
They freak me out.
I avoid scary movies.
You and me, sister.
Jim says Satan, simple to the point.
Okay.
Mary says, for me, it's big eye gray aliens.
I have a clear, I have clear memories of being terrified.
They were going to come through my bedroom window and abduct me.
And then
Two more left for me.
Tony Clements, no relation to Mike Clements, different last name.
Joan Crawford in 1970's Trog, and he attached a poster and wow, wow, that is weird.
And then finally, Leah says the moment when Linda Blair in the exercise bent over backwards and
Twiddled down the stairs backwards.
Oh my
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But before we get out of here, folks, Pete, what did you learn tonight?
Uh, I also learned as far as diggers hotline, like I just, cause I want to do some landscaping work over the, over the next few months in my backyard and front yard.
And I want, I'm going to call diggers hotline to make sure.
Cause even though small little hits with trawls, you never know.
You never know.
So totally.
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Thank you.
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