Mike Clemens on the Packers Draft Picks (Hour 2)

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Mike Clemens on the Packers Draft Picks (Hour 2)

Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Mon Apr 27, 2026

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I have to tell you guys, before we move on to text or movie club, our compadre senior producer, Tucker Ligarsky asked the question, do you guys know this is pertaining to our conversation right before the news?

The name of the little Caesar mascot.

Isn't it Caesar?

I think it's Caesar.

Yeah.

Little Caesar.

Well done.

Nothing gets by you guys.

I

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actually do it.

Did you know that the owner of little Caesar paid for Rosa Parks apartment until she died?

He did.

Like she was, she was, she was broke and she knows it was a heat.

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And when he found that out, he just paid for her apartment.

He paid for her house.

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Oh man.

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That makes

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want to go

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Dom, are you

in?

Yep.

That's

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why you

little Caesars.

That's why you do it.

Greg Bach

You said something very important.

I want to also reiterate too.

We do have our movie club announcement for this week.

It is the Martin Scorsese 1990, not bonkers gangster film at all.

Good fellas.

That movie is bonkers.

That movie is

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bonkers.

Starring the, you know, sorely missed Mr. Ray Liotta, Joe Pashy, Robert DeNiro, the sorely missed Mr. Paul Servino, who I think he won an Oscar for that.

No, I don't think he won an Oscar for that.

point is we'll be watching it on Thursday second hour as always we'll be going into the movie club talking about the movie trivia thoughts ideas placement clips that are heavily redacted because it's a very sweary movie police but if you have a movie that you'd love for us to watch you can always email us nightlight at civic media dot us you can also send us thoughts on guests you can send us thoughts on subjects but get in touch with us by emailing nightlight at civic media dot us

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over anymore never talk anymore

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you know you're here cool you never cool you never

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cool so

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you

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sounded like Lorraine Bracco when you said that that voice Greg oh i love her in that movie i love her too i

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love her in that movie so all right so the question of the night what

Is the what movie monster scares you the most?

Let's start with the text line Pete.

What do we have from the people on the text line Dom?

We have let's start off with Monaco from our whore-up says can't decide between pinhead from Hellraiser The creeper from Jeepers creepers or the guy from saw

Pete Schwaba

The oh, that's awful.

Yeah, he's bad

Greg Bach

the problem with jigsaw from saw is that I've seen so many parodies now of jigsaw

that he's no longer scary.

He's just funny to me.

And also there's that scene where like one of the movies I've never seen any, but he's like riding a tricycle.

I'm like, well, I'm I'm supposed to be afraid of that.

Like I can kick that across the football field.

Why am I afraid of that thing?

But yeah, now I just see parodies of jigsaw everywhere.

So I'm like, that's that's adorable.

Yeah.

And we also have Al from Madison said, when I was a kid, it was either creature from the black lagoon.

or that movie Gargoyles, which I've never seen.

I've never seen

Gargoyles.

Pete Schwaba

I've never seen that.

The creature from the black, anything below the surface of water is horrifying.

And the creature from the black lagoon is a good one.

Also the movie Crawl that came out years ago, a few years ago with Barry Pepper, where that alligators were everywhere because it was flooding.

That was creepy.

Greg Bach

Do you guys, maybe not still now, but you know, it could have been more when you were a kid.

Like if you went swimming in a lake, you still were like, Oh, what's below?

Is there a shark?

Is there?

Is there?

What's that touching me?

It's just, it's just some, like, you know, lake weed.

It's not seaweed cause not to see it's just lake.

Pete Schwaba

I was so freaked out.

I used to say someone conceivably could have thrown a shark into this water and it could live long enough to bite me before it dies cause there's no salt water.

Like those are games I played in my head.

Wow.

Chicks alone.

Greg Bach

Oh my god, that was so funny.

Dom, what else do we have?

Do we have some other ones here?

Yeah, we have a few more.

We have Tyler from Wisconsin Rapids said, the orange blob thing with the wispy tuft of fur on its head that appears briefly for a

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jump

scare in the movie Melonia.

Not that I see it.

Greg Bach

Melania, you meant there, Tyler?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah.

Greg Bach

Yeah.

Good job.

Pete Schwaba

Or in Home Alone 2, I think he was in as well.

Yeah.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, man, forced his way in.

We also

don't know who's texting in here, but used to work at Domino's.

They haven't changed the recipe since 2010.

So it's working for him.

We also have Nick from Marshall saying, Sully from Monsters Inc, which that is true.

Sully is scary.

Greg Bach

Really?

You think Sully is?

Pete Schwaba

You never see

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Monsters Inc.

I thought you had kids.

Pete Schwaba

I do.

But I, for whatever reason, that one got by us somehow.

Greg Bach

Interesting.

That's a really fun movie.

Monsters, Monsters Inc, Monsters University and the TV show.

They're all fun.

They're really fun.

I mean, it's, it's, it's a good time.

And I saw one more from John, uh, at the lace one.

John, uh, from Columbia County said, thanks for making me laugh.

Greg Bach

John from Columbia County.

You're welcome.

Pete Schwaba

You got it, buddy.

Greg Bach

Yeah.

That's what we're here for, baby.

Pete Schwaba

We're trying to do some drama here, but apparently.

John thought it was funny.

Okay, John, whatever.

No.

Thank you, John.

Greg Bach

Our whole interview about Digger's hotline, he was just guffawing on the floor.

Pete Schwaba

He's laughing at the idea of people being electrocuted.

Greg Bach

What do we have on the Facebook there?

We've got

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quite a few.

Mike on Facebook says, not your typical monster, actually, a person who does monstrous things, actor Neil McDonough.

the guy always creeps.

Greg Bach

Oh yeah.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, the real blue eyes, right?

Greg Bach

Real blue eyes, super blonde hair.

He always plays like he was on the, uh, I think it was third or I think it was fourth season of justified.

He was like one of the main baddies and he was just horrifying.

He was so weird

Pete Schwaba

and so psychotic.

It was, he's great.

He is a really good actor.

And it's that Mike says he always creeps me out.

I think it's his eyes.

I'm told he's a great guy in real life, but on the screen, he's not someone you want to cross.

That's true.

He's also the guy.

Interesting.

Fun fact.

He will not kiss another woman.

Greg Bach

Yeah.

And he, he did say something in an interview recently that he said he lost a bunch of work because of that.

And it's like, yeah, really?

Like every, every

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script.

I can't remember who it was, but.

Whatever, I respect that.

I think I look at it as a reason to reason to kiss someone else and get paid for it.

It's okay.

But you know,

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I have, I have absolutely no, um, opinion on this whatsoever.

I love my wife.

So,

Pete Schwaba

um, no, uh, Daniel on social media response to Mike and he says, the guy is a devout Christian and won't even do a kissing scene in his movies because he loves his wife that much.

Okay.

I think he also started turning down villainous movie roles.

He does play a good villain though.

Ian says, did not maintain a loneliness of command difference with his NCOs and froze when he had to make difficult decisions.

I don't see it as a character defect.

He certainly went on to be a very successful lawyer in DA.

I don't know who I maybe still talking about Neil McDonough.

I think

that was a

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response to a response, but I

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kind of

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got off on a tangent.

But thank you.

Amanda says the monster from it really messed me up for a couple of decades.

I've never seen it

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with the Tim Curry one.

Pete Schwaba

You never saw the TV.

I never saw that one.

No.

Greg Bach

Oh yeah.

That's, I mean, like, yes, the Pennywise that's been created in the past, like five years as deaf, it's designed to be terrifying.

But the thing about Tim Curry's Pennywise is that while it does look scary, it could, it could be a clown you see at a circus until it opens its mouth.

But yeah, the, the, the original TV, the two part TV, remember that Pete back in the day?

TV miniseries are made for TV movies, like movie of the week.

Yeah,

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it was like, oh my gosh, that was a thing, Dom, that like it was tens of millions of viewers for the movie of the week or the like made for TV movie or something like that.

But yeah, that Tim Curry Pennywise is horrifying.

Pete Schwaba

I gotta check that out.

I've still never seen it.

Sarah Jean says the alien from signs.

Love that that movie.

I really liked that.

There was some really creepy moments in that.

And she also says ET and Ursula from the little mermaid.

Okay.

ET is an interesting one.

Greg Bach

Yeah.

I mean, ET can be very frightening if you're of a certain age.

I mean, aliens are aliens, baby.

Oh, let's be

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honest.

If you saw ET in real life, you

Crush him, or you'd run something.

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You're not going to go, oh, he's so cuddly.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah.

Brenda says on social media, the dude from Jeepers Creepers movie with the truck that has the license plate beating you or obeying you.

I guess he's a cannibal.

Greg Bach

I don't know

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that one.

Greg Bach

I'm not a scary movie again.

I don't know a lot of the deep dives on a lot of these

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movies.

Dan says Freddy Krueger and Jaws.

Rob Martin says, Valic from conjuring gives me freaking chills.

I've got to watch those movies too.

Scott Tom says, the idea of the exorcist demons, Nick Wallander, very funny Green Bay residents

as

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the cave dwellers from the descent.

Oh yeah.

Bill on social media says, Gene Wilder as Willy Wonka.

Sorry guys.

I'm just, I mean, cut you off.

I'm just trying to

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get through

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these.

We could save them for the

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Mac

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that I kept.

Andrew Brown also says Melania.

or how down is a bologna sandwich I think he

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said bologna pronounced bologna it's pronounced bologna the dwellers from

the descent was really scary though I just recently watched that movie very it's that's that's

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up there

that's top three for me too

Greg Bach

okay much more much more much more curves than I do my friend Mary on my time on my facebook says the

that guy with the orange hair from Home Alone 2.

There's a lot

of, there's a real

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winner tonight.

There's a real winner on tonight's text messaging.

So thank you everybody for getting in touch with us.

Yeah, absolutely.

I'm trying to think if there's one that's scary for me because I don't watch horror movies.

I think I would always go back to Freddy Krueger just because he was like,

even though he came

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out after Jason.

I remember being, I can't remember, I was, it was little.

It was when the movie first came out and I was camping with my sister and her friends and they were talking about this movie in the middle of the night in the dark and I was horrified.

This notion that there's a guy who kills you when you're asleep.

And then they describe him like, well, I hate all of this.

I want to go home right now.

So Freddie Krueger for as like old of a villain as he is always stays in my head as terrifying, period.

Pete Schwaba

No, I get it.

That was brutal.

Yeah.

I said the Jaws shark, but also the, the shark from a deep blue sea, the shark on steroids.

That's scary.

A lot of me, very scary stuff.

Greg Bach

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We'll be talking about those throughout the show.

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We are still waiting for Mike Clemens to join the show to talk all things sports.

Were there any other comments on the live stream or not in the live stream, but on the Facebook about tonight's question, which is what monster from the movie scares you the most?

Pete Schwaba

Here's, yeah, there's a couple.

Ian said again, hard to beat Xenomorph.

I don't know Xenomorph.

Xenomorph, that's alien.

Oh, okay.

Bill says, uh, Gene Wilder is Willy Wonka.

Nick says cave dwellers from the descent.

Uh, man, we got a lot to keep rolling in.

So we can probably get to these later.

Greg Bach

We actually have Mike Clemens here right now.

We got Mike here.

Welcome to the show.

Welcome back to the show.

Mr. Mike Clemens, civic media's sports authority.

Good afternoon slash evening.

Mike, how are you doing on this Monday?

Mike Clemens

OK, a little tired, been a long weekend covering the draft.

Just got back to my house in the Milwaukee area, but good to be one of you boys.

Greg Bach

Wonderful.

So let's start right there.

Let's start with the draft.

What is the big news for the Packers and any other bigger news for the NFL regarding this year's draft?

Mike Clemens

About four o'clock Saturday afternoon, somewhere around the.

I'd say the fifth round.

I went to Rob Demoski who covers the team for ESPN.

We've both been doing this for at least 30 years.

Can I ask you a question?

Is this like the most boring draft we've ever covered?

And he goes, right?

You know, shaking our heads because there was no pick Thursday night and a couple on Friday.

The players that they're picking are like, okay, good kid.

They're just peeling names off the board.

There wasn't much drama to it.

There's a need to replace Malik Willis at quarterback.

An NFL draft analyst that I talked to last week had said, Cole Payton, look for this kid out of North Dakota State, same school that Christian Watson's from.

He's kind of like a Tiffin Hill guy, a guy that the Packers had drafted.

Didn't think he would make it a quarterback.

Well, Sean Payton turned into a gadget guy in the Saints, and he had a great career as a backup quarterback, a tight end, et cetera, special teams player.

So right about that time, I tweeted out, you know, the emoji with a couple of eyeballs, like, hey, take a look at this.

I put up Cole Payton's profile from the NFL draft, because right around here, it'd be a chance to take a swing at this.

quarterback is a backup that maybe LaFleur could develop behind Jordan Love.

And all of a sudden, I looked up at the screen and like two picks later, the Eagles took him.

It's like, okay, I guess that guy wasn't far off.

And so no sooner than do we have this discussion about man, this kind of dragon, isn't it?

All of a sudden it's like, hey, hey, Packers around the clock.

No, they're not.

They're not to the seventh round.

They're like 50 picks.

No, no, they traded up.

Oh, geez.

So we run down to the media auditorium and sure enough, you know, the screens are growing up, the microphones are going on and they're bringing down one of the guys from the scouting department.

They traded up to take a kicker, a kicker.

That was the thing that

Greg Bach

people were surprised by.

Mike Clemens

Yeah.

Well, that's the most surprising moment of the whole weekend.

And when you look at the six players that they drafted, if this guy wins the job, he's most likely to be the first player of all of them that could be playing.

So his name is Trace Mac.

a place kicker out of Florida.

And so then we got a chance to talk to him after they picked him, call him down there and games all and said, you know, have you had any contact with the Packers and have you ever kicked in cold weather games like Green Bay?

I grew up in Maryland, so it's not new to me or, you know, it's always done it, you know, that's kind of how I started out kicking is kicking in cold weather.

Um, you know, I talked to, you know, the Packers and I talked to coach cam and we, we talked for a good bit.

And, you know, I really like his coaching style and, you know, he's an intense guy that, you know, I can, I'll work with and I talked to him and we hit it off.

I think so.

Now I'm here.

Um, and I'm really just excited.

Greg Bach

That's fantastic.

Well, I mean,

Greg Bach

people were, yeah, people were very surprised by that pick.

And, and, and that's the thing, Mike, you say that.

You know, you ask your colleague if it was a boring draft.

I remember late last night realizing nobody's talking about...

the draft at all.

It's just like no one's like, there was, there was no big highlight.

There was no big headline.

There was nothing of, of real like, did you hear what happened?

It was just sort of like it happened.

And then we're like, all right, cool, moving on.

And I think, I mean, part of it may have been the fact that for Wisconsin, it was bigger last year because it was here in Wisconsin, but it just kind of felt like, yeah, it happened.

We're good.

And we'll see, and we'll see in the summertime when the, when the season begins.

Mike Clemens

Well, the other thing too is the Packers weren't hyping it much because Brian Kudekin said, we talked about this last week, he kept on

trying to make it clear to us i kinda already got my roster so that's why i said going into this draft these are all rookies man these are all guys are going to the back of the line except for me with that kicker now this is the other drama though is that you've had this veteran brandon mcmanus the last two years actually the last time you tried to draft a kicker and his carlton did not work out mister wide right now it's like oh see mcmanus he had the injury was quad

He missed three kicks in the playoff loss in Chicago to the Bears that cost him seven points.

That could have been the difference.

So we asked Brian Goodykins, so you give up two seventh round picks to trade up and get this trace smack out of Florida as a place kicker.

What does this mean for Brandon McManus?

Yeah.

Greg Bach

We're going to talk more about this as well as other sports going on in Wisconsin with our sports authority.

Mr. Mike Clemmings.

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We are talking to our friend, sports authority, Civic Media sports guru.

Mike Clemens is here talking all things Wisconsin sports and we were talking about.

the NFL draft for this year, which took place this past weekend.

And Mike, you were saying it was a rather boring affair.

Is there anything else that happened, anything of great interest, or is it just like, but that's everything you talked about?

That's pretty much it.

Mike Clemens

You know, first of all, the draft is always great because it's a bunch of guys have been trying for 10, 12 years to get to this point and to get through high school football.

to get a scholarship now to get paid to get into a a college program and then get a look at from nfl scouts and actually get picked and i have a chance to play in the national football league we're talking about that kind of surprise that brian guttickens made when you thought well maybe we'll take a running back we will take a wide receiver and they trade up to get a place kicker out of florida this trace smack and boy the gift shop at lambo fields going to join so naturally right smack

for a kicker.

Pete Schwaba

Smack is better than Doink.

Mike Clemens

You can use that one.

I said, I'm a cut here of Brian Goodykins, the GM, where we said, well, that's kind of awkward.

I mean, you know, you got the veteran 35, 36 year old Brandon McBannis who kind of saved the day overall for the last year and a half until the injury until the playoff game against the Bears.

So what does this mean for Brandon McBannis now that you've used a draft pick?

and trade it up to get this rookie.

Pete Schwaba

That's interesting Mike sticking with the draft.

Let's talk about I want to ask you about a couple of their draft picks, but also Let's look to the NFC north the Bears got an a-minus on their draft which I totally disagree with Lions also got an a-minus and the Vikings got a B How did those teams become more competitive?

How would you measure the Packers draft up against with their prime competitors?

Mike Clemens

To be honest, I still haven't gotten through the Packers draft even though they just took six players

The Vikings made some moves, though, in terms of their defense, the Greenland going on, where they traded him, that has really got people kind of scratching their heads.

And so I've got to sort of sift that out.

What the Packers did, though, they did fill some needs that they had, because they lost for Sean Geary.

And that's one of the biggest questions.

A guy was a former number one pick out of Michigan and was on his way to a pretty good season.

It doesn't add up why suddenly he wasn't getting any quarterback sacks after Micah Parsons went down with the 20 field.

Unless that meant that teams are spending so much time focused on Parsons, that's how Rashawn Gary was getting his opportunities.

And once Parsons was off the field, then they were figuring out ways to take out Rashawn Gary out of place.

You couldn't get it out of the Packers as this was going on.

what happened to this guy and while

he's

Mike Clemens

making some mistakes he's trying but he's no longer with the team they traded him to the cowboys they traded quay walker another first round pick uh... or no he left in free agency got a huge deal out of vegas uh... the raiders uh... romeo doubts but they have filled these these needs with either guys they've picked up now in free agency or some of these picks their first pick in the second round is brandon cc a defensive back out of south carolina

who's actually got a former packer that's out there in that program is a player development guy clinton ha ha dicks a former uh... packer and bearer safety uh... he's been out there coaching the kid up so he was their first pic he's young he'll be a project twenty twenty one years old but very athletic then they help out the defensive line with a chris mcclellan out of missouri the tigers that the program is on the rise the player that the the packers are excited about

They couldn't believe he was still on the board starting Saturday.

They tried to trade up to get him Friday night.

Couldn't do it.

His name is Deny Dennis Sutton, number 33 for Penn State, same school that Parsons is from.

As a matter of fact, I won't be surprised as somewhere we'll start calling this guy Mini Micah.

I mean, he looks like Micah Parsons when he was back in Penn State.

40 plus tackles the past two years in a row, eight quarterback sacks,

10 tackle for losses, three block punts last year, three block punts.

That tied the record to Jack Hale.

The Steelers all a famous set back in the day and seven force fumbles and they got this number 33 who's all over the field to add to edge for their new defensive coordinator Jonathan Gannon.

So those are some of the things that the Packers are excited about.

One other

Mike Clemens

thing that we learned about last week guys is this.

You got a new sheriff in town.

You got a new president, new CEO, Ed Policy.

And he's a lot different than Mark Murphy and in terms of how much publicity he does, you know, I was with them on the tailgate tour.

Whereas Mark Murphy, the former CEO and president would be out there as the emcee, talking to the kids at the high school, introducing the players that they brought along on the bus, handing out the checks.

So Ed was off, you know, stage right.

It was just the players on the stage.

He was there to observe.

Matter of fact, I don't know if he was there for the whole tour because he's got a lot going on with construction and things going on.

They're expanding the equipment department, the training staff, so that you never have to wait if you're a player to get taped up.

And they built us a new media center.

I got a new office at

Landmine.

Mike Clemens

Yeah, they just kicked off.

I can go on and on.

So it's very busy at the people there in the hallways.

I've got to go.

I've got to go to this meeting.

I mean, everybody is running around.

And the big question that Ed did, he did do a Zoom last week, and saying, all right, a lot of people thought after losing five games in a row and not getting to the next level of the playoffs, it was time to fire Matt LaFleur.

And this was Ed Pauli's answer as to why he kept Matt LaFleur for a contract extension.

Ed policy the Packers new CEO and president and Pete and Greg There's one other thing that Ed talked about I thought was very interesting as he turns the page and takes over from Mark and that is The threat that they feel they're under financially and you're again, I can see Packer fan saying come on.

They got a 30 year waiting list

It's the NFL.

It's a multi-billion.

These teams are worth, you know, nine or $10 billion.

What is what?

And he says, this is what I'm up against now.

He said, you know, Green Bay, of course, very unique with the shareholders and everything.

But they're starting to see NFL teams doing what the NBA has done.

And so like, I don't know, a guy like Jerry Jones could say, you know what?

I can let in a partner for 5% in the worth of the team.

That's $250 million.

300, 400,000 dollars.

You want to build a new building, a new office, building a new training facility that will track free agents, that will help your team, help your players.

They just let in some guy, they give him a suite, and make him a part of the club, part of the family, and he can't compete with that.

So he did an interview with a sports journal where he said they misquoted me.

I did not say I'm selling the naming rights to Lambeau Field, but I am saying there's other ways that we got to find revenue streams

because that's what I'm up against in the league right now.

Greg Bach

What are there any revenue streams they are currently entertaining then if they can't do certain things?

Are they not allowed to bring in any sort of minor?

They sell the stocks, and that's a great way of making money and people hanging on their wall, and that's great.

But are they allowed to sell any sort of 2% to 3% stock in the team to help bring in revenue, or is that just absolutely not on the table?

Mike Clemens

Yeah, they can't they can't do like what some of these other private owners he said listen Yeah, you know everybody talks about our salary cap in the NFL.

It's a soft salary cap It doesn't cover what you pay coaches It doesn't cover what you pay in signing bonuses So, you know it limits what Russ Balder the finance guy and their GM can do when it comes to signing these contracts for players But there's a whole lot of money and again the you know these teams are they're not just owned by like

George Hallis, you know, football guy.

They're owned by billionaires with a lot of free time on their hands.

You know, it's like the yacht races in Cape Cod.

And they will throw hundreds of millions of dollars at a problem at a new stadium, at a new club, those kinds of things that at the end of the day gets more and more competitive, not only on the football field or the basketball court, et cetera.

But here's another thing that I learned, too.

the brewers you know that you know the brewers dropped fan-dual-tv and now they had to scramble and come up with their own mlb you know based brewers tv until they figure out what's next they lost twenty million dollars in revenue and so you know one analyst said that seems like a bucket a drop in the bucket for these teams right if it's worth five billion dollars and mark entinasio is here to tell you okay think of your house let's say you got a three hundred thousand dollar house and all of a sudden your furnace goes

You may even own your house.

That's still $15,000, $20,000.

You've got to spend on a new HVAC.

Where is that coming from?

That's what it feels like.

$20 million, that could be what their grounds crew budget is.

Or

Mike Clemens

how many $100,000 a year employees that's going to cost.

And you can see things tightening up around the baseball park in Milwaukee after losing that $20 million.

Little things here and there.

Greg Bach

Well, there's one thing that we all know about Mark Antanasio and the brewer is that $20 million absolutely does make a difference.

I mean, we're not talking about a 300 to $350 million payroll team here.

We're talking about a team that regularly comes at or below the average, but it is an apt description.

And I mean, I'll be interested, I don't know about Pete, but I'll be very interested to see what they do to bring up that money.

Like if they need more money, how they're going to do it then in this situation.

Mike Clemens

Yeah, so in the meantime they're being savvy with the way they pick players and they like this Kyle Harrison They like this David Hamilton who can play third base can play shortstop great speed around the bases They pick them up from the Boston Red Sox and they send Caleb Durbin who'd won the third base job last year in Milwaukee pretty good hitter Caleb goes to Boston.

He goes like one for 17 at the plate

You know Harrison strikes out 12 batters yesterday when they beat the Tigers 5-0.

The Red Sox just fired their manager and their entire coaching staff.

Greg Bach

We'll have to pick up the Brewers action next time you're on though.

Thank you so much Mike for being here.

We really appreciate your time as always.

Okay guys have a good night.

You too.

Mike Clemens

That

Greg Bach

was Mike Clemens, Civic Media, Sports Authority, Sports Guru, our buddy talking all things packers and a little bit brewers.

But when we come back, it's going to be time for the nightcap reading your messages about the question of the night.

What monster is the, what monster from the movies is scariest, scares you the most?

And we'll also be figuring out what we learned here on Nightlight with Peach Wabba and Greg Bach on the Civic Media Network.

Kathryn Lake

You're listening to Civic Media.

Find the latest news, information, and archives of all your favorite shows on the Civic Media website, civicmedia.us.

It's time to wind it down.

Let's take a moment to look back and ask, what did we learn today?

This is Nightcap with Greg and Pete.

Greg Bach

Welcome back to Nightlight here on the Civic Media Network with Pete Schwabba and Greg Bach.

Pete is all the way up in Marinette, AKA Christmas City, USA.

Down the coast is me, Greg Bach in Radio Park in Racine.

And then all the way over completing the Yadir Hei triangle is Mr. Dom Lee on the ones and twos at HQ for Civic Media.

Thank you so much for being here tonight.

We appreciate you listening and or watching because we are streaming on the internet.

Have you guys heard about this internet?

It's all the rage.

Pete Schwaba

Listen, it's here to stay.

I

Greg Bach

thought it.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah.

Greg Bach

a series of tubes that are going nowhere.

We are currently on Facebook, YouTube and the platform we still call Twitter.

Tomorrow is going to be a very, very good show.

In the first hour, we're going to be speaking with Professor Golnar Nikpor about Iran.

She is a scholar of Iranian history and she'll be here talking about her book and specifically about the things that we as Americans in American consumption of media don't understand or know about what's going on in Iran right now.

But that'll be all tomorrow in the first hour plus

great topics talking, you know, we talking about the news and what's not and taking your calls and taking your text messages, but that'll be all for you tomorrow.

Don't go anywhere.

Lots more coming up.

Even after the show is done here, great programming happening.

So stick around.

And, um, what else we got?

Like, I think, uh, it's, it was a good show, guys.

It was a good show.

Yeah, it was fun.

Yeah.

I enjoyed

Pete Schwaba

myself.

Greg Bach

Pete.

Well, actually, let's start here.

We're going to read the last of the comments from the text line for the question of the night.

What monster from the movie scares you most?

You can still call or text 855-752-4842-855-75 Civic.

Let us know.

Love to hear from you, Dom.

What do you got?

We got Chris from Sun Prairie saying, scariest monster is Jaws.

I still won't go farther than shin deep in the ocean.

which is a popular answer so far tonight.

Greg Bach

We also,

John Murray from Madison said, Gene Wilder, comic and an acting genius was confused by that fear.

Greg Bach

There's parts of that movie that are terrifying, the tunnel scene, oh my god, it's a child.

terrified me and will Wonka.

And then

Greg Bach

what else we got there?

Yeah.

He

also said, um, Jack Nicholson as Johnny, he's, he's a

Greg Bach

monster.

Oh man.

Yep.

Greg Bach

Happy belated birthday to Jack Nicholson.

We were talking about him last week.

Even had the monster

Pete Schwaba

for a while.

Jack.

Yeah.

And that's it.

That's all

Pete Schwaba

we

got.

Pete Schwaba

All right.

He said, John also said, even had the monster limp for a while.

Greg Bach

I don't.

Okay.

Is he talking about, I guess.

Oh,

I was thinking,

Greg Bach

I was thinking Gene Wilder, that limp when he comes out of the building and the, the cane gets stuck in the floor and

Pete Schwaba

he

Greg Bach

turns.

I thought he was talking

Pete Schwaba

about Nicholson.

Greg Bach

That's fine.

Hey, they both had limbs.

So good

Pete Schwaba

acting from both those actors.

Uh, Stacy Sue on the stream says, I saw, she saw Michael over the weekend.

She thought it was great.

That movie, love him or hate him, crushed and set records of the box office.

So

Greg Bach

yeah, it's almost like USA.

huge distraction or something.

Pete Schwaba

I don't know.

What do you know?

Um, we've got, uh, someone with the coolest name ever on social media, Billy Dave arm chair.

If

Greg Bach

that is your

Pete Schwaba

real name,

Greg Bach

70s country artist.

Pete Schwaba

He says the shadow demons from ghost still kind

Greg Bach

of, Oh, those are

Pete Schwaba

horrifying.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No kidding.

Uh, and then we've got Jason Jenich, the black, the black oil slick

Greg Bach

from

Pete Schwaba

a creep show too.

I don't know that one either.

Greg Bach

My friend Jason, one of my dearest buddies of all times.

We work together.

Cassio music back and I've known him for long time, long, long time.

I got some here

Greg Bach

on, I got to hear some on the, the, on my Facebook page.

See my friend Ben, who I went to the show with on Friday, Biff Tannen from Back to the Future.

I know

Greg Bach

not quite what you're looking for, but that's the best I could do as a non-scary movie watcher.

Pete Schwaba

Love Biff Tannen.

Biff is awesome.

Greg Bach

Victoria says anything gory.

I hate gore and jump scares.

They freak me out.

I avoid scary movies.

You and me, sister.

Jim says Satan, simple to the point.

Okay.

Mary says, for me, it's big eye gray aliens.

I have a clear, I have clear memories of being terrified.

They were going to come through my bedroom window and abduct me.

And then

Two more left for me.

Tony Clements, no relation to Mike Clements, different last name.

Joan Crawford in 1970's Trog, and he attached a poster and wow, wow, that is weird.

And then finally, Leah says the moment when Linda Blair in the exercise bent over backwards and

Twiddled down the stairs backwards.

Oh my

Pete Schwaba

God.

That's creepy.

Yeah.

There's a good one.

Greg Bach

Thank you everyone for getting in touch with us texting, calling, leaving a comment on the live stream.

We love hearing from you.

You are part of the show without you.

They don't exist.

It's great.

I'm probably saying that in a little bit as well.

But before we get out of here, folks, Pete, what did you learn tonight?

Pete Schwaba

I learned that I can rat on my neighbors thanks to Diggers Hotline and I fully plan to do so.

I'm going to.

start making some citizens arrests and use that to my advantage.

And I learned that Mike Clemens is one of the hardest working guys in radio.

Good stuff.

I

Greg Bach

feel like this is gonna be an act out of what's gonna happen.

It's gonna be like, Mr. Clemens, we've told you this is diggers hotline, not tattletale land, all right?

Stop telling on your neighbors.

Thank you.

You want crime

Pete Schwaba

stoppers,

yeah.

You want crime stuff.

Dom, what did you learn?

I learned that Mike Clemens now has a beautiful office in Green

Greg Bach

Bay.

I had no idea about

that, but that's

Greg Bach

really good.

Really

Greg Bach

cool.

Thank you.

The Packers.

Now I know where I can go when I want to go see a Packers game for free, for free.

I can be like, I'm media for civic media and I'll just take Mike's office right now.

Thank you very much.

So

Pete Schwaba

the Clemens, the

Greg Bach

castle Clemens.

Uh, I also learned as far as diggers hotline, like I just, cause I want to do some landscaping work over the, over the next few months in my backyard and front yard.

And I want, I'm going to call diggers hotline to make sure.

Cause even though small little hits with trawls, you never know.

You never know.

So totally.

I will be making that call.

So thank you very much to Chad Krueger and Mike Clemens, our guests tonight.

Appreciate your time.

Appreciate you being here.

As always, on behalf of Pete, I want to thank Dominic.

I want to thank Tucker, traffic and engineering for all the work they do.

They make sure the microphones are turned on and these things all work for us.

Everyone who called text, left a comment, left a, whatever he said as an email, been a part of the show.

We appreciate you.

Without you, there is absolutely no us again tomorrow.

We will be speaking to Golnar, Nickpour.

Thank you.

Golnar, Nickpour, about all things Iran, specifically her new book and the things we do and do not get right when it comes to our assumptions of Iran as a country and the people itself.

So that's all tomorrow.

And then as always, if you want to get in touch with us, nightlight at civicmedia.us, N-I-T-E, L-I-T-E at civicmedia.us.

Send us a movie idea.

guest ideas, subject idea.

We'd love to hear from you, but for now, we're going to get out of here.

Stick around.

There's still great programming after we're done.

But for this moment, Pete, say good night to the people.

Good night,

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