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Mike Clemens on Wisconsin Sports (Hour 1)
Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Wed Apr 22, 2026
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Welcome to Night Light, ladies and gentlemen.
Happy Wednesday, everybody.
Hope you had a great day.
We are looking forward to hopefully entertaining you over the next couple hours.
I am Pete Schwabba.
joined by my compadre Greg Bach who is just down the coast in radio park I am in Marinette, Wisconsin of course after a lovely evening in Madison last night and Dom Lee is holding down the fort as usual at civic media headquarters How are you guys tonight?
I'm doing quite well.
Yeah.
Hmm.
You know what
Dom seniority
Oh, no, I was going to say, Tom, go ahead.
You're the one to make sure the microphones work.
I don't want to, but I was actually, I was going to say good or something akin to that we usually do in the world when someone says, how was it going?
You say, going good, going great, going.
It was, it was a whatever day.
Like it was not a great day.
It wasn't a bad day, but you're just one of those days where I had a whole list of things I wanted to get done.
And then like one place was closed.
Another place, it just didn't make sense to drive all the way back home and then come all the way back to work.
So I got like,
Like work I got stuff done, but like personal got almost nothing done today.
So I'm just sitting there going Oh, I didn't like it.
I don't like it
me.
I can relate to that same.
Yeah.
All right, so I kind of I can relate to that I left my hotel this morning in Madison.
I couldn't check out
because credit card on file for the people that pay for the room was not, there was not a form filled out or something.
And I said, well, what if I just, usually I leave, I don't go down to the front desk and check
out
like it's 1972, but I wanted to make sure I could get my car out of the garage.
So that was the thing.
Then I went to a Portillo's, a fine dining establishment that I love, a beef sandwich, Dom Canoele.
Greg, have you had Portillo's?
I have.
I think there's one in green.
Okay.
There's one in
Brookfield.
Everyone is very excited about a hot dog place.
Well, no, Italian beef.
Let's get this straight.
I forgot to order Jardinera.
And here's what I've learned.
When you order food, don't change anything because it throws the entire business plan of the franchise into upheaval.
And I ended up waiting 40 minutes because I made one special request after I ordered.
Literally, I was waiting for 30 minutes.
Hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it, hold it.
Well, okay.
First of all, what did you order?
I
ordered an Italian beef sandwich.
I forgot to get Giardiniera on it, which I typically do with the hot peppers.
So I went to the woman at the counter and I said, I forgot to get Giardiniera.
Can you put some on the side?
She said, sure.
Cut to 25 minutes later.
I see all these other orders flying out the door and people with a hundred, like their number was like a hundred more than me.
I'm like, what did I do?
I just, and I broke my own rule.
I don't ever make special requests.
It's like when Jimmy John says you want cheese on that.
If I say no, there's going to be cheese on it.
Like you just can't mess up their flow.
Yeah, but no, no, no, no, no, no.
Sorry.
No, no, this is not, this is not on you.
Sorry, I'm all about personal responsibility and I get what you're saying.
But if you order something and like you order a Italian beef sandwich and you say, can you throw some Jardin Arizona on there?
That shouldn't be a thing that holds up your order for the length of a Chuck Laurie sitcom.
You know, it should just or just say like, Hey, can we give you some on the side and you put it on yourself?
Because if we do that, like, you know, like it should not have taken that long.
And I don't think it was because you didn't remember.
It was because something else.
You're probably right, but for
comedic storytelling purposes, I was trying
to be- Oh, well, now I feel like I just ruined your joke.
No, because I'm saying what you're saying.
Like, for whatever reason, the littlest thing throws them off.
That could have been like, oh, I got to go back and read.
I don't know what it was, but it's just whenever it's like that Murphy's Law thing when you're kind of, I had to get on the road because we had our meeting and I was going to call in over the phone.
I ended up-
I was so exhausted today.
I drank a 16 ounce Mountain Dew.
Like I was 12 years old because I wanted more than coffee.
Like the coffee gives you the caffeine.
I needed like sugar and caffeine.
And
so I'm a little amped up.
So I'm just warning you guys, but I did it for the show.
Have you ever had jolt cola?
It's way
better.
Oh, wow.
Not 25 years.
Yeah.
Oh, Tom, have you never heard of jolt cola?
Never heard of that in my life.
No.
Joe Cola was a soda that came out back in like the late 80s, early 90s that their tagline was more caffeine than Mountain Dew.
Like, like, like there were parents out there who said things like, you know, kids should not be drinking Joe Cola.
This is not good.
I'm like, no soda is good for any child, but you picked Jolt.
I remember as a kid.
Back when soda was almost always like refrigerated or at least in a soda area, which it is now but like Jolt Cola when I was younger was almost in like a specialty part of the store Because they just didn't treat it as soda.
They're more like this seems more like a a liquidy drug that we should be selling with a doctor's prescription But here you go kiddos put it on this low shelf charge four bucks for a six pack.
All right
It was like
between soda and liquor.
There was in a weird
zone
where they didn't know.
And I love it that they had another soda's name in their tagline.
Kind of advertising for Mountain Dew as well.
That's
awesome.
That's funny.
I cannot tell you the last time I, I cannot tell you the last time I drank a mountain.
Well, I don't really soda that much anymore, but Mountain Dew, oh my goodness gracious.
I don't either, but it
was like,
it literally, when I, when I tasted it was like, yeah, I feel like I'm 12 again, because that's what I used to drink.
Like a bag of Doritos and a Mountain Dew, like that was lunch.
I
have to have it.
So is my son.
What, what is the deal?
What is the, what is the deal?
Sorry.
What's the deal?
So dumb.
What is the situation slash explanation with the youth Taco Bell and Baja Blast?
Because whenever I hear Baja Blast, it's always in connection with Taco Bell.
No one just ever says, man, I said a Baja Blast.
It's always, I went to Taco Bell and I had a Baja Blast.
And then all their friends are like, Ooh.
into
ever had.
It's like white wine with seafood.
You don't order a Baja Blast with your veggie burger or your side salad.
It only goes with Taco Bell.
Exactly.
I'm guessing.
I don't know.
Pete steps in with the remarks of his opinions.
They're like, that's everything.
You're going to get a salad and a Baja Blast.
That's
my culinary
knowledge.
It ends there.
Hey, we got a great show tonight, folks.
A couple of great guests, a fun question.
Mike Clemens, Civic Media Sports Authority will be here at 535.
He's going to give us an update on a passing that is tied to the Packers organization and
one of the
famous stadium songs that we all know and love.
Mike will be here to talk about the Brewers.
What else he's got?
The draft, the box.
I mean, there is
draft, of course.
whether it's on or not, Wisconsin sports is, is, is happening big time with the NFL draft.
And I would talk to him about this, a tweet, I still call it tweets, uh, from Giannis about his future with the buck.
So we'll be talking to Mike Moore in actually just in a little while.
Uh, he'll be here.
It's going to be fun.
Always
fun
when Mike Clemmons drops by and then, uh, our pal, Martin Alvarado,
He is the Community Engagement Specialist at the Madison Public Library.
We're going to be talking about National Poem Month and some great books, always fun when Martin is here.
He'll be in studio, right, Tom?
He'll be in studio.
He
Is he there already?
Please tell us the moment he gets there.
Yeah, I need to
I asked him to bring us some Baja Blast, and if he doesn't bring it, I'll be very upset.
That's the perfect compliment for a poetry reading.
You start reading a lot faster and getting all amped up.
Uh, I think without further ado, we should probably get to our question of the night, maybe.
I think that's a great idea.
Let's talk about the question.
Okay, question.
Question.
Question.
Pregunta.
Question.
Question.
Okay, I have a
question.
Questions.
This question.
Domanda.
Question.
Question.
All right, Jack Nicholson.
One of the most famous actors of all time.
You could argue whether he's one of the best or not.
It's all subjective, but he is 89 years old today, ladies and gentlemen.
So our question of the night, what is your favorite Jack Nicholson movie or role?
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But as you know, you can always chime in with whatever your thoughts are based on our discussion here at Nightlight with Pete Schwabba and Greg Black.
Can I also wish a happy birthday to another luminary actor, director, writer, which by the way, I think is very interesting.
We don't, we always talk about Jack Nicholson as an actor, but he is a writer, a director, a producer.
He's, he's all the things, but
Happy 80th birthday to Mr. John Waters.
Oh, wow, John.
See, I need a new celebrity birthday site.
John Waters wasn't even on there.
Oh, I'm sorry to tell you that.
I'm glad I told you.
I'm glad I informed you
because he's fantastic, too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There you go.
All these like influencers, like this girl named I has Cupquake.
And it's like, why am I
hearing about
that?
Did you have to bleep that?
Yes,
I has Cupquake.
out.
She's very good.
What does she do?
What does she talk about?
used to do high school stuff.
I
feel bad now.
Facing a popsicle stick house or what?
Get off of my lawn, you dirty influencers.
Oh, you're making a bird box.
Come on in.
I'll make some tea.
Hey, speaking
of speaking of that, we have tomorrow night, ladies
and gentlemen,
is our nightlight movie club in the
second hour
every Thursday.
This week's movie is the breakfast club.
You know it.
You love it.
If you haven't seen it, watch it.
Be part of the conversation tomorrow night.
We'll talk about the breakfast club.
We'll do a deep dive, maybe ask some questions.
It's going to be a lot of fun.
So if you've seen it, join the conversation.
If you haven't, you still have time to watch it.
There you go.
It's gonna be fun.
And that's a Dom Lee.
That's a Dom Lee choice.
choice.
Baja Blast and stay up a little later.
Okay.
We've got some news stories we need to get to.
Dom, if you please.
The first big story.
So, uh, happy Earth Day everybody.
Thank you, Greg.
That's about it.
Okay.
Cool.
All right.
Today is Earth Day 2026.
And we just, we were talking about this a little bit with Dr. Kristen Lyrely a couple of days ago.
It is a celebration that has its roots in Wisconsin.
Thank you to former governor Gaylord Nelson, but Earth Day is important.
It's great to celebrate.
It's great to celebrate what we do for the earth.
But I read an article in the Wisconsin Examiner.
We need to do a lot, lot more because just in the first line of they're talking about the fact that these, all these storms we got these past two weeks are very odd for this timeframe.
And it all has to go back to those two words that nobody wants to say out loud.
Well, I do climate change or as I call it global warming, cause apparently we can't say that anymore.
But yeah, I mean, people feel bad.
I don't care.
You should feel bad.
I think about this every time Pete, when I, so I am a, I recycle.
I'm happy to recycle.
We got the recycling bin at the house.
I just brought him in this morning because yesterday was recycles day.
I have no problem being a part of that solution.
I have no problem being part of that movement, I should say.
But I feel like, and tell me what you think about this, Pete, I feel like 25, 30 years ago, they said we should recycle and then pushed all that responsibility on us when no one was saying, how about it's the companies who are pumping billions of gallons of black smoke into the air and doing all these things and dumping like.
I have no problem recycling, but that's not what's going to help the earth in the long run.
We need better, bigger policies that are going to actually hold polluters to account.
That's what I really think about that, you know, when I think about that.
Like when I think about Earth Day, that's what I think about is holding accountable those who are actually doing the major damage to our earth.
Not the guy that recycles the Mountain Dew Baja Blast bottle.
I get it.
I'm with you.
Let's pick up there because I want to make a point about that too.
And Earth Day is a great celebration of our Mother Earth.
We are coming right back, ladies and gentlemen, with two more big stories and one of them involves junk food.
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This song just makes me happy.
Welcome
back to
Nightlight, ladies and gentlemen.
I'm Pete Schwabba, coming to you live from Christmas City, USA, just up the coast from my partner Greg Bach, who is joining us live from Radio Park in Racine.
And Tom Lee, Dom Lee, as he is affectionately called, is in Madison.
So it's great to have you with us tonight.
We're in the middle of our three big stories.
Mike Clemens will be joining us in about 10 minutes to update us on all things Wisconsin sports.
And it's going to be a good one.
He's got some really cool information.
Just for us.
We have a call vote, Dom, before we get back to our news stories.
Who do we have?
We have Jack from Air Mac.
How's it going?
Hey, Jack.
Hi, Jack.
I don't say that in the airport.
Oh, that
was a good one, Jack.
Jack, is that why you called?
Nope.
I figured why pass up a great opportunity?
Anyway.
First of all, um, I absolutely love Jack Nicholson when he gets does this over-the-top role and I enjoyed him probably most I think he played the devil in the witches of Eastwick.
And and and when he played the Joker in Batman, he was just incredible I really rate those as two of my favorite Jack Nicholson movies
As
noted,
sir.
Thank you.
That's great.
Nice.
Thank you very much,
Jack.
Yep.
What's
up,
Jack?
Can you hear me yet?
Yeah, we can hear
you.
Yeah, go ahead.
Go ahead.
Okay.
Um, when, um, it's dope came out, I think their ad was something like, uh, all the sugar and twice the caffeine or something like that.
Yeah.
I remember seeing it.
I remember seeing an analysis.
of the caffeinated sodas, and yep, they had a lot more caffeine and Pepsi or Coke, but the highest caffeine rated, both in percentage and total caffeine, if I recall correctly on those analyses, was Diet Mountain Dew, which is still, by
the way, my
drink of choice.
That's your
drink of choice, Jack?
Oh, yeah.
Got to keep his old bones going somehow.
You're like, you're like one of those guys are like, who's like 102 years old.
And they say, what's your secret?
Like I drink a, I drink a pint of scotch and smoke a pack of Paul miles.
I drink dive out and do with nothing else.
Well, Jack, now I know your secret.
I'm going to buy some on the way home tonight.
Absolutely.
Jack, that's awesome, buddy.
Thank you for the call, my friend.
Thank you so much, Jack.
Appreciate it.
He
was in mid swig there.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
He's he's he's paid.
He's bought and paid for by big diet soda
I just want to say one thing before we move on to our second big story.
We're talking about Earth Day right before the break.
And I pulled up this article by ABC News that said, oh, the stuff we have in place is working once threatened species are rebounding the sea turtle.
But then in the same article, it listed all these horrible things that are happening.
And it said deforestation is continuing to occur at a rapid rate, including 16.6 million acres of tropical primary forests.
lost in 2024 equivalent to 18 soccer fields per minute according to the World Wildlife Fund.
Let that sink in, Greg.
That's insane.
Again, like I have no problem recycling.
I have no problem loving the earth, being careful, leaving things the way I found them.
I really do.
I believe that.
But I also think that we need to really shift our focus to the big polluters, the ones who are cause, who are basically, in my opinion, those are like crimes against humanity, the way they are harming the earth.
But, you know, that's for our
elected officials to take care of, not a radio guy in, in we're seeing some.
Shall we move on to story two?
Yes.
Please.
All right.
The second big story.
Uh, oh, go
ahead, Greg.
No, no,
I'm, I'm, go ahead.
It's,
it's,
it's a story.
Reuters is where I saw this about, uh, they want to reclassify weed.
The United States, uh, administration.
United States administration what the hell does that mean is expected to move to reclassify marijuana as soon as Wednesday according to exios citing a familiar source within the matter We had some debate about this.
It's still not legal in Wisconsin So it doesn't really matter what they call it or how they classify it, but
Uh, I thought that the president was against this at some point, like you said, but I, we couldn't really find.
No.
So, uh, look, looking back in with the help of senior producer Tucker, he looked at the, at the best, Donald Trump has been wishy-washy on this.
He has, I mean,
the government has tried to try to make illegal, well, they have made illegal hemp derived products that's supposed to be taking place, that's supposed to be taking effect at the end of this year, which will have a huge effect on Wisconsin businesses who sell hemp derived products.
He has been back and forth with his own Justice Department back in his first term about, you know, easing marijuana.
enforcement, it just, he hasn't said like we're going to get, he's just, he blows with the wind honestly.
And this just reminds me of the Rogan story from yesterday where simply he just wants to be popular.
He wants to be cool.
And he says, yeah, we're going to do this for decades.
Again, I'm going to make this point for decades.
We had experts, doctors, vets, you know, folks who suffer from mental illnesses who utilize marijuana for their, for their, you know,
their course of medication for their way of keeping themselves in a good place.
And have been told systematically by specifically Republican leaders, but there's a lot of politicians out there.
It's like, no, can't do that with a whole host of reasons.
And now the president's like, yeah, let's do it.
I mean,
yeah, it's like with the tipping issue.
It's just like you said,
Blowing with the wind wanting to be popular and he wants to be invited to Joe Rogan next sleepover.
Yes So so inferior I want marijuana to be legal.
Yes, especially in Wisconsin, but It just feels very not this doesn't feel like it's gonna go anywhere honestly because he just signs a piece of paper with his weird Signature and who knows what will happen.
He just wants that adulation in the moment, but this has real long-term effects benefits consequences, but again
Decades of research and testimony from people who need this who have expertise in it and it got that none of now and the president goes Okay, let's go for it me So
curating.
Let's see if we can squeeze in really quick our last story.
Okay
Greg, it's very simple.
If you watch videos on junk food, you're less likely to eat them.
Researchers call it cross modal satiation.
Basically your brain gets enough satisfaction from seeing the food that you don't have to actually eat it.
I'd like to believe that I really would.
Yeah, I don't think that's true at all either.
I've watched plenty.
I've watched plenty of things.
I mean, sure, why not?
But let's believe that together.
Let's do that.
Let's all believe that
together.
Let's watch IHES Cupquake video later.
We're coming right back, folks.
Mike Clemens is here after the news.
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We have the nightcap going to wrap everything up as usual, and we're going to get to our question of the night.
It's Jack Nicholson's birthday.
What's your favorite Jack Nicholson movie?
Leave a comment on the live stream.
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Give us a call.
Let us know, just like Jack from Merrimack did.
But right now, it's time to welcome back to the program our friend, our buddy, the sports guru, the sports authority, Mr. Mike Clemens.
How are you this evening, Mr. Mike Clemens?
What's going on?
cuckoo's nest uh... about smith's pretty good jack knuckles here's one here's a recommendation it came out at the same time is uh... cuckoo's nest it's called the passenger and jack plays reporter who's in africa doing documentary and just kind of gets tired with his life and some good business man died so he switches identities he finds out though the identity is picked up is a guy selling arms and now guys are chasing after him
It's a really, really good.
Oh my gosh, how did I not see
It was a small film, but it's like I was blown away.
It just showed how good that guy was coming off a cuckoo's nest, so that.
Before I forget, I'm driving home around midnight, one, two AM from these stadiums, and so I hear the playback on the network of you guys' shows.
That interview you guys did with the mayor of Madison, Rhodes Conway, excellent.
I learned so much more stuff about Madison going on.
Good stuff, boys.
Good stuff.
Oh,
Mike, thank you
so much.
And you know what?
That means the world coming from you because you are a guy who's been doing radio for so long.
And the fact that you enjoy what we're doing, that means a lot.
So I appreciate the compliment and you are fantastic as always.
I mean, it goes without saying, but yeah, thank you very much.
So got some sad news today.
You know, if you could join me on game day at Lambeau Field, it's pretty cool because you walk in the door
and then there's the technicians and then there's the cameraman and they've got their cameras on their shoulders and they're dragging some cord behind them and you're trying not to trip you know or here comes the chain gang right the guys with the first down sticks and you know get that stick out of my eye you're gonna poke me in the head there with that thing you gotta walk behind them and then the referees and they look like zebras I mean it's almost like being backstage at the circus here comes Wayne Larrabee and Larry McCarron in to do the radio broadcast and then
Back in the day, he used to be the band.
And so for years, through the history of the Packers, they had a band called the Lumberjacks.
And then they changed that a little bit.
And there was a guy named Lowell Ives, who started playing with the band like in the 70s.
And then in 1982, which is actually the first year I got into cover Packers games as a kid shooting camera, they made Mr. Ives the director.
And he became the musical director at UW Green Bay.
So he's teaching by day and he's got this, they, and they said, you know, a lot of stuff, instead of marches, like Susa marches, maybe you make like a jazz thing.
So they did a little Chicago like you played earlier or to come up with some own things.
Anyway, Mr. Ives has passed away.
He was 97 years old, but he was the director of that jazz combo.
He used to be down on the sidelines in the South End zone on game day.
And one of the things that he wrote, they still play today.
And let's play that clip.
That's awesome Does he get paid or did he get paid every time they played that mic or did he
have some kind of
an agreement you
know the way it started was that little jazz combo was done every four or five guys with a big trombone and a couple of microphones a little band stands and Football players running out of bounds running into them They got the stadium to do that So they would have they would have the band mic and then that the fans would chant that
then they decided, listen, we can't have this band on the sidelines during the whole game anymore.
But let's have you guys go in and record that, and we'll play it over the scoreboard.
So that's how that all came about.
Anyway, 97-year-old, all those students that he instructed, one of his students was Lyle Mays, a great piano player, a kid that he was from out of Marinette.
And he gave, he said, that your improv is really good.
Just keep working on that.
He encouraged him.
Lyle Mace, remember Pat Metheny, the Pat Metheny
Lyle was Pat's keyboard player, all those years when they were starting out.
So anyway... And he was
from Marinette, Mike?
Marinette, yeah.
How do you spell Maze, do you know?
M-A-Y-S.
He passed two, a few years ago, like in 1966.
But yeah, he was with Pat Metheny, which when I started out in radio, one of my first job was public radio.
And they played all that jazz back in the day, you know, from the guy's and that
of
all comes around.
So we got the draft tomorrow night.
Okay.
And where is that taking place this year?
Pittsburgh.
Pittsburgh.
All right.
And what do we see on the horizon?
What are you looking at?
What are the things we should keep our eyes out for?
What are the things that the Packers are keeping their eyes out for?
Well, they don't pick now until Friday night.
The 52nd pick overall, they've got eight picks this year, 11 picks next year because of compensatory picks at the beginning.
You give up a free agent, then the league gives you back an extra pick or something the following year.
Uh, you know, they, they traded Rashan, Gary, their pass rusher, uh, they got Micah Parsons back.
Part of the reason they don't have a pick in the first round tomorrow night is that huge deal they did last summer with the Cowboys to bring Micah Parsons up from the Dallas Cowboys.
So,
And I don't think it's possible they may get a deal where they give up two picks to get one pick higher Friday night and go from 52 overall to maybe somewhere in the 40s.
But speaking of, you know, you guys talk about movies so much on this show, there was a great movie seven, eight years ago called Draft Day, starring Kevin.
Oh
my God, that's such a good
movie.
It actually is.
When it first came out, Greg, all the NFL and sports writers, cynical types, were like, oh, that's nothing real.
And then some of the GM was like, no, it's actually closer than you think.
It's
more
chaotic than
it
looks on TV.
And so that's the story where Kevin Costner is a GM of the Browns, and he does kind of a cloak and dagger thing, and he pulls off and he did the last minute.
But it's like he's going to go after some quarterback who I think was from Wisconsin.
Anyway, here's the deal.
When you're on the clock,
You've done all this preparation.
You've got all these scouting reports.
You've put together a board, and they order the players the way you should.
And then you just, you wait for your pick to come up, and then you look at your board and say, this is the next best player available, according to our math, according to our calculations.
But, you know, what about what's in your gut?
Like, you know, and Brian Goodykin says, at the end of the day, you can measure a guy and how fast he runs, how strong he is.
We've washed all his tape as a player.
But not only does he love football, does he need football.
In other words, after we pay him the first 10 or 15 million dollars, he can't wait to get on the field.
So I asked Gudekin about this yesterday in his pre-draft press conference.
Our guest is Mike Clemens.
He is our sports authority here at Civic Media.
He joins us tonight to talk all things Wisconsin sports.
Mike, that was a great answer by the Packers
GM, but
a great question.
It's just, you know, what are the Packers needs?
What do you think they'll target when it comes to round
two?
I think their needs are offensive line.
I think they need depth at the offensive line.
You know, they gave up two players, including Elton Jenkins, that moved down in free agency.
Zach Tom, they're starting right tackle, had injuries most of last year.
Now he's back, they say okay from surgery, we'll see if he's actually ready for the start of the season.
But they need a little bit more depth on the offensive line to back them up because they ran into troubles in that playoff game that they lost to the Bears down in Chicago.
And then, you know, in terms of the two receivers of the left and free agency, Romeo Dobbs signed a $39 million deal guaranteed with the Patriots, the Packers were never gonna pay that.
They traded Don Tavion and Wicks,
Well, they're third or fourth best receiver to the Eagles and to pick up a couple of these picks that they lost in a Micah Parsons trade.
So they'll get another receiver and no big deal.
But they're coming back with Christian Watson, with Jaden Reed, and then Matthew Golden, their first round pick from last year.
This will be his second year and now in the spotlight will be on him.
So I think one of the things that don't be surprised if they try and address a backup offensive line.
Okay Before we go to the before we go to our break Doc Rivers has stepped down his head coach of the Bucks.
We know that's happening and Yanis Released a tweet this week that seemed like he was staying he talked about being a Phoenix as far as like the city and the team and himself
What is the news?
I mean, I feel like half the conversations we talk about when it comes to the Bucks is half is their record, the other half is Yannis Sting.
So what are you hearing from the Bucks organization, your sources?
Doc wasn't fired.
I mean, Doc is, look, when he found out that he was going to be inducted into the Hall of Fame, he's done.
You know, I don't need to coach anymore.
I'm in, man.
I can go golf now.
And also the Bucks are a mess.
And I don't think he wanted to be there anymore because he could see that the owners aren't talking.
Giannis isn't talking.
Listen to what Doc Rivers basically saying, nice people, the bucks.
Giannis, great kid.
You people need to talk to each other.
Listen to this.
That's the voice of Doc Rivers, compliments of our guest, Mr. Mike Clemens.
We will break down what the former Milwaukee Bucks coach said.
He was not fired.
I keep thinking he was too, but I think
he's
right.
He was not fired, but we'll break that down, that clip when we come back and we'll get into some Brewer talk with our guest.
Mr. Mike Clemens, this
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Welcome back.
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Great to have you with us on this Wednesday night as we talk about, oh my gosh, Jack Nicholson.
We're going to talk books in hour number two with our favorite librarian from Madison.
And right now we've got a few minutes with our pal, Civic Media Sports Authority, Mike Clemens.
We listened to a clip from Doc Rivers that Mike shared with us right before the break.
Some kind of parting shots at the books, maybe, Mike?
Well, I know I think he's just calling it as he sees it and I think doc does that There's some times that people say the dock rivers is oh kind of a phony and it's never his fault No, I you know I've been watching him since he was a player and he tells it like it is sometimes and oh, yeah, he did he did as a coach and You know, I'll tell you when you get into those NBA circles, man It is such a soap opera, you know, and if you've got these players that you know like a bullet well
He's got two brothers on the roster that have no business being there.
But they get all these demands.
So the last time I was around Giannis was the night before he had the extended knee injury.
And it's the same old Giannis.
He's this unbelievably dedicated athlete that gets there early stays late.
He's got the ice bags on with timers on for 30 minutes on it.
And he just wants to play.
But the world gets more complicated than that.
And I talked to a buddy of mine that I know.
is in contact with the Yanis camp, if you will, the agents.
I mean, they're at levels like, well, if he decides to move, we could go Orlando, or we could go New York Knicks, and if he goes Orlando, there's no tax there, so he'd be saving himself 13% income tax as opposed
to going to
the Knicks.
These are the conversations these people are having.
And at some point, Wes Edens and Jimmy Haslam, the owners, need to sit this kid down at 31
What do you want?
Okay, either sign and stay or we'll send you to wherever you want to go.
What do you want?
And that's what this franchise needs to do.
Yeah, this is like the, the, for me, like anyone who knows me basketball isn't my big thing, but like it's always interesting, especially, and you're not wrong when it comes to Doc Rivers.
One thing I always appreciated about him when I'd listen to his interviews was, you know, if they lost, they'd say, what do you think happened?
He'd be like,
We lost.
They played better than we did.
Next question.
Like, cool.
No need to philosophize.
No need to pontificate.
Exactly.
At the end of the game, who has more points?
They won.
That's why they lost, because they won.
So there you
go.
I mean, I've covered them in between Packers and Brewers and coming to Madison and checking out Luke Fickle and what's going on with the Badgers over there.
But he recognized me and started coming over to me.
ever once in a while, like, you know, how do you think this is playing?
I mean, he's very open that way.
And it's not like he's working me.
He just, he wants that input.
And so when you see those kinds of things and the staff that's following around, that's a, that's a leader, right?
And he walks into that situation and he looks at Yanis over there, good kid.
He looks at your owners that are trying their best, but you know, they need counseling.
They made counseling.
Well, yeah, I mean,
Mike, we have about two or three minutes left.
I want to get to some brewers talk with you.
They had a six game skid.
Have they turned it around?
It would seem so.
Greg's beloved brewers.
Give them something to be happy about
here.
And part of that, they were watching the Nationals.
They sort of beat them at their own game during that losing streak with small ball and bunts and short hits and things like that.
And so kind of the light went on with Pat Murphy saying, you know,
I'm missing two of my best hitters in Cheerio, Andrew Vaughn, and now Yellich is out until maybe Memorial Day with this groin injury.
We've got to do the same thing.
And they actually won a couple of games doing that.
Then last night, they just unloaded on the Tigers.
And some of these moves that they've made in the off-season, like did you see the Devon Williams, the ace at their closer that they had a couple of years ago that went for big money for the Yankee or to the Mets?
And now they've lost 12 games in a row.
You know, the ridiculous money that is being spent with some of those teams, Corbin Burns, whatever happened to him after he went to the Orioles, and look at these young pitchers.
They got Quinn Priester coming back on rehab in Nashville now, and they're getting through with Brandon Woodruff staying loyal to him and these other young pitchers they've got.
And then they're bringing in players like what they made that trade with the Red Sox.
It's David Hamilton.
He went four for four last night.
Dude's fast on the basis.
And they've moved him over to shortstop because Ortiz can't get ahead.
And just Matt Arnold continues to make these moves that are pretty amazing and in these trades.
And then there's Pat Murphy, who last week it was Jackie Robinson Day.
Everybody's wearing number 42.
And somebody asked him about his favorite players going, oh, Lori Wills, Luke Brock, Hank Aaron.
And I said, how about Bob Gibson in the picture from the Cardinals?
Bob Harlan.
The former factor worked with him, and Euker was down there too, and he goes, Bob Gibson, he says, I just used Bob Gibson this morning.
Okay, the meeting was over, I went upstairs and I asked Adam McKelvie, he's a beat reparser.
So you mean to tell me this guy manages baseball 15 hours a day and he's playing baseball video games in the morning?
He goes, Mike, he does it with his kids, okay?
He lets his kids play contemporary players, like Mike Trout or whatever, and then he plays the classic players so they get to know the Hall of Famers.
Oh, okay.
He's playing baseball video games with his kids.
That's different.
That's okay.
Cause I thought we had a problem
here.
Well, you know, one thing I, you know, the, the burrs definitely took a tumble to the bottom of the division last week.
And like it was weird.
They were at the bottom, but they were also tied with, with the Cardinals and the Cubs, essentially.
But one thing I really loved is last week,
When Trevor McGill was not playing up to the fan standards, Pat Murphy did not hold back and he told them, look, he pitches great for you guys and you love him.
He has one bad game and you boo him.
That's not good.
That's not fair.
Knock it off.
I'm like, father has spoken.
Be honest, just tell the fans they're nuts.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And McGill had a great night the next night.
And that's what you want.
Is that honesty?
And look how those guys will turn around and they will play for a guy who is looking out for them.
Yeah, that's what makes the difference.
Absolutely.
Yep.
Mike, great stuff as always, my friend.
Have a great night and enjoy the draft or whatever you're doing this weekend.
I'm sure you'll be fixated on the draft though as well.
Great stuff.
And please come back soon.
Thanks, guys.
You got it.
All right, that's the great Mike Clemens when we come back We're gonna read your texts after the news the question of the night is it is Jack Nicholson's birthday.
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