Mike Clemens on the Bucks & Brewers (Hour 1)

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Mike Clemens on the Bucks & Brewers (Hour 1)

Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Mon Apr 13, 2026

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Here's Pete Schwabba.

Dude.

And Greg Bach.

Pete Schwaba

Dude.

Hey, hey, Wisconsin.

Welcome to Nightlight, everybody.

I am Pete Schwabbo sitting upstate from Greg Bach and Dom Lee.

We will tell you where those guys are in just a moment, but we've got Greg is adjusting his camera for those

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of you that are

Pete Schwaba

watching on the stream.

You can't fix perfection, Greg.

It was a great angle.

Uh, we have a, an absolutely fantastic show for you guys tonight.

Happy Monday, everybody, wherever you're joining us from in the great state of Wisconsin, it is great to have you.

And, uh, we, uh, we hope to, uh, ease you into your evening.

And if you're in the car right now, we hope to make that drive feel a little more, uh, relaxed, right?

Greg, was that a accurate description of tonight's show?

Yes.

Perfect.

That is Greg.

Greg Bach

He is coming to you

Pete Schwaba

live from radio park in Racine.

And, uh, Dom Lee, working the board in Madison.

Dom, do you miss me?

I was there Thursday and Friday.

It was great to hang in Madison with you a little bit.

Um, what's, is there, is there a, the kind of depression in it?

can only happen when like a Schwabba leaves the room.

Yeah.

As soon as you left, I was like, oh, man, my, my, my night was from an eight from out of 10 to now a five out of 10.

I was getting really sad.

So I'm feeling

Greg Bach

it

too, buddy.

It's not just Schwabba.

It's

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Dom Lee.

Greg Bach

When there's no Dom Lee in the,

Pete Schwaba

you'll know the feeling, Greg, when we ever, when we get together and hang and do like

Greg Bach

a, I can't wait to see a Schwabba leave the room then.

All right.

Awesome.

Pete Schwaba

Hey,

Greg Bach

that was a day to talk to.

I'm just I'm just writing things down.

I'm just taking notes buddy for therapy later

Pete Schwaba

legal pad you pull out whenever you're shuffling through something we get those sound effects old-timey

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radio like oh No, he's walking down the hallway

Pete Schwaba

That was fun the last week guys it was two

Greg Bach

of

Pete Schwaba

us are together I know we'll get together the three of us to do a show from Madison at some point that'll be

fun, but

Pete Schwaba

Tom you were

Headed to Chicago when I last talked to you.

Greg Bach

Headed home for a

Pete Schwaba

big event.

Tell us about this really cool thing

Greg Bach

you did on behalf of your papa.

Pete Schwaba

Well,

Greg Bach

love to hear more.

What is, okay, Greg,

Greg Bach

this

is sarcastic.

Greg Bach

Greg's coming at

you.

Guns of blazing.

What's going on?

Greg Bach

Well,

okay.

I'll tell you a little bit about it.

It was my dad's 50th birthday a week prior.

And we, we threw him a surprise party and it was, it was great.

It worked out well.

I got the ice.

I was in charge.

of ice, and that was it.

Just ice.

But it worked out really well.

He had no idea, and it was really fun.

It was a really fun time.

Greg Bach

Two things.

I love the fact that I am a mere less than two years younger than your father.

That's interesting.

But also, Dom, you had an interesting conversation with your mother about the show.

Oh, yes.

And about me.

Yes,

Greg Bach

yes.

And if my mom is listening, I'm sorry, mom,

Greg Bach

to out you.

Yeah,

Caroline.

Yeah, Caroline.

It turns out that she's not a big fan of Phil Collins, and obviously Greg is the number one fan of Phil Collins.

And she was just like, yeah, I don't know about his favorite artists.

And I was like, oh, OK, all right, I'm not going to tell him.

And then about an hour ago,

Greg Bach

I told

Greg.

And then you told me.

Where is Greg's number?

Greg Bach

I mean, it's like, it just feels hurtful.

I know.

I know.

You know, I thought we thought, I thought there was a rapport here and I guess I was wrong.

I've

Pete Schwaba

got a couple of thoughts now.

I think is that, Dom, is that your mom's way of like, it's just, first of all, Greg, you might be overreacting.

A lot of people say that they don't like Springsteen and that's my guy.

And I'm like, all right, whatever, you're taking this very personally.

Which

Greg Bach

is kind of sweet actually.

I think it's because it's Dom.

It's the Dom mom.

It's the Dom mom who like I felt like was with us and then all of a sudden she's like I don't understand Greg's choices.

We're going to see

Pete Schwaba

in the text line her saying sorry in a bit.

The other thing is Dom, I don't know where that puts you in the pecking order of responsibility for family obligations, but you were in charge of ice?

Yeah.

Oh, it was difficult.

There was so many people, so I had to get more ice.

I had to go back to 7-eleven.

It was, it was a really big task and I was very proud

Greg Bach

of myself.

I had

to drive a

Greg Bach

car.

Oh my God, I had to go pick up a bunch of frozen water.

Oh my goodness gracious.

What am I ever to do?

You're not making the lasagna.

They're making you

Pete Schwaba

go

Greg Bach

get the ice.

What are you in charge of?

The napkins.

Oh my gosh.

Our good friend Todd on the live stream says, his dad is only 50.

OMG, do I feel old?

Yep.

That's how I feel too right now.

I'm even older

Pete Schwaba

than that.

So look, age is a state of mind.

And it's your actual chronological life.

So it's pretty depressing.

However, Dom was at a phone bar.

It was not helpful Pete at all.

I started to try to make us feel better than I just bailed.

It is

what it

Pete Schwaba

is, but was your dad surprised?

He was very surprised.

He actually umpires.

So he was gone for like two hours and it was a perfect opportunity.

We got everyone there and people came on time and it was just perfect.

He walked in and he was just...

He was really happy about it, so it was good.

It was nice to see my dad.

Were

Pete Schwaba

the baseball metaphors a-flying?

Yes,

Pete Schwaba

absolutely.

Yes, that's exactly

Pete Schwaba

me.

I want to make so many baseball jokes right now, but I know

Greg Bach

that would be

Pete Schwaba

kind of lame.

Was the party a homerun?

The party was a homerun.

Wow,

okay.

Pete Schwaba

Did your dad arrive safe at home, or was he just a bit outside?

Oh, my God.

All

right, you know what, Tom?

That's

Mike Clemens

far enough.

I

Pete Schwaba

can't...

All right, that was deserved.

You get one, you get one rim shot per show.

Hey, we got a great show tonight, Greg.

We've got a couple of civic media all stars here tonight.

We've got Mike Clemens is going to join us at 535.

There is so much, I did not realize how much is going on in the world of Wisconsin sports until.

He, until Mike reached out today.

So

we

Pete Schwaba

got, we're going to talk a little bit about Chris McIntosh, uh, stepping down in Madison as the athletic director.

The brewers are on a skid, which I'm sure Greg is totally bummed out about as our all brewer fans, uh, the bucks, let dock rivers go.

Um, and the Packers have a big event coming up too.

So we'll break all of that down with our civic media sports authority, Mike Clemens.

And then in our two, our pal, Dan Schaefer will be here, the founder of the recombobulation area award-winning.

recon population area.

And my fellow wire fan, uh, you can, you can get into that with him, Greg.

Greg Bach

Well, I think we're going to be talking more about the bucks.

We'll be talking to more about the bucks today with Dan too, because he is a huge bucks fan.

And we've had conversations about this man, Doc Rivers, who will soon be the former coach of the bucks.

I'd love to hear Dan's take on that.

Uh, in the second hour as well, guess what everybody, it's time for yet another

will be once again doing the win your way into the 2026 Milwaukee Film Festival.

It's a text to win contest this week.

It's only three days this week, but the Milwaukee Film Festival kicks off on Thursday, and there are so many great films, and this is your opportunity to win an all access pass.

One all access pass will be given out this week.

There will be a keyword in the second hour.

You will have the opportunity to, uh, to enter to win that all access pass.

So stick around.

And also, uh, really quick here, uh, Brett on the text line says, Hey guys, I won the film festival tickets.

Thanks.

I appreciate, uh, Oh, he's good.

He's actually set.

He's actually sending us some, uh, some behind the scenes stuff here, but Brett did win.

Brett from Brown Deer did win the tickets.

He's listening to us on WAUK.

We'll get in touch with you, Brett, and let you know more about that.

Get that straightened away so you can get your tickets.

But congratulations to Brett and possibly congratulations to you if you text a win in the second hour with the keyword for the Win Your Way into the Milwaukee Film Festival Contest.

We'll get luck ahead of time.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, that is a like 600 plus dollar value.

Greg Bach

That's a

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huge two week festival.

And they've got and check in here all week, folks.

We've got a couple of guests on from that are going to discuss the festival this week, including Susan Kern tomorrow.

And we'll be talking about it all week.

So it's a two week festival outstanding.

I just came from the Wisconsin Film Festival and

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had an absolute

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blast.

I'm I want to say I'm festival out, but I'm not like you look at the Milwaukee offerings and they're just incredible.

So that's going to be fun talking about that all week, too.

And definitely listen in.

Hour number two for those, for

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the keyword, Greg?

Yes, it'll be a keyword.

It'll be a keyword and it's only three day contest.

So today, tomorrow and Wednesday because the film festival starts on Thursday.

Thursday.

Pete Schwaba

All right, I think without further ado, Mr. Domely, we should get to our question of the night.

Let's talk about the question.

Okay, question.

Question.

Mike Clemens

Question.

Pregunta.

Question.

Pete Schwaba

Question.

Mike Clemens

Okay, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Domanda.

Question.

Question.

Questions.

Pete Schwaba

It is national, folks.

National Scrabble Day, which begs the question.

Greg, it was between what is your favorite Scrabble word

or what's

Pete Schwaba

your favorite board game?

I went, what is your favorite board game?

But you're welcome to share fun Scrabble words you've come up with too over the years, folks.

But that is our question tonight.

What is your favorite board game?

There are

so

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many that can, uh, can induce arguments between family, which is always fun.

And, uh, some that are just a ripper on good time.

Yeah.

Let's see.

Uh, eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two, eight, five, five, seven, five civic.

Let us know where you can text us or drop us a stream comment.

If you're watching the radio on YouTube, Facebook or X Twitter.

So there you go.

Greg Bach

There you go.

All right.

We're, I feel like we've gotten all of the.

Stuff didn't care of all the business all the business we should get to the we should get to the news the top three stories of the day the first big story So if you don't already know the president of the United States decided to post a very interesting picture of himself on his true social social media platform of social mediaing

It was a picture of him.

I mean, I don't know how he thought otherwise, but it's a picture of him basically looking like Jesus Christ, healing someone who is sick in bed.

And people were unhappy, and it's not the people you think it was.

It was actually a lot of conservatives, Catholics, Christians, Trump supporters unhappy about this post.

And I don't know, Pete, what version of this...

of this picture, do you think he looked at where he said, well, it's me being a doctor, like with the Red Cross, right?

That's what I thought it was.

So

Pete Schwaba

for me, Greg, here's the thing.

I think a doctor is more likely to have a comb over than Jesus.

But that's ridiculous.

What irritates me is what I find so shocking is that this is what put many conservatives over the top.

He's been blasphemous since he's been in office even the first time with the Bible and this and that.

What now?

It's got to be all this other fatigue that they finally have a reason to say, okay, this is too far.

Greg Bach

Sorry, he went too

Pete Schwaba

far many other times.

Greg Bach

He posted a picture of himself last year dressed as the Pope.

like an AI image and for those who haven't seen it the AP does a great job of describing it says the image posted by the president Sunday night this is last night show Trump wearing a biblical style robe and laying hands on a bedridden man as light emanates from his fingers in both hands by the way while a soldier a nurse praying woman and a bearded man in a baseball cap all look on in my link we're not done yet the sky above is filled with eagles an american flag and vaporous images um

Yet he thought it was a picture of him working for the Red Cross.

But he didn't.

No, of course he didn't.

No, he's a liar.

Right, and you're saying,

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this guy, oh, he's got conviction and all this.

If he really did, he should say, yes, I feel like I'm very much like Jesus.

If you have stones, that's what you say.

You don't pull it and say, oh, I meant to be a doctor.

No doctor I've ever seen where it's flowing robes.

And it's just insanity.

And I think people are finally even the diehard magus, I think.

Greg Bach

They are very, very upset about this.

And I mean, like in a Washington Post article that we will also put in the show notes, Megan Basham.

Megan Basham.

was upset.

She is a prominent conservative Protestant Christian writer and commentator.

And then there was another gentleman, Michael Brown as well.

He's a Catholic conservative commentator, also very upset about this.

And he decided to sling rocks at the Pope too about this.

And we can maybe get to it on the other side of the break, but he got into a little mini fight with the Pope.

And the Pope basically says, I'm not afraid of the Trump administration.

I'm going to keep doing what I'm doing.

Pete Schwaba

Well, that's something new.

Thank

Greg Bach

goodness for that.

Pete Schwaba

We'll break all of that down coming up next, folks.

Don't go anywhere.

It's a very short break.

Pete and Greg are here.

We are not Jesus.

We are not even close.

We're just a couple of guys talking about three

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big things.

Pete Schwaba

There's more coming up next on Nightlight with Pete Schwab and Greg Bach on the Civic Canadian Network.

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Pete Schwaba

Welcome back.

This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba and Greg Bach coming to you on the Civic Media Network.

Great to have you with us on this Monday.

Mike Clemens is coming up after the news, sports and weather.

He's going to break down all of the stuff that is happening here with our Wisconsin sports teams.

But right now, Greg and I are breaking down some new stories.

Just when you think things can't get more preposterous, they do.

So let's just jump back.

And we were on story number one.

I think we had to put a button on that, Greg, before we moved on.

And we were talking about the Pope and the president calling the Pope, weak on crime.

Greg Bach

Yes, he did say that.

In fact, the Pope isn't happy about the president's direction on Iran.

He feels that what the president's doing is not, you know, it's not Christian.

It's not based in the gospel.

It's not peace and love and things of that nature.

President Trump had thoughts on that.

He said something to the effect of, yes, he is weak on crime.

That's what the president said.

about the Pope.

Pete Schwaba

He's also, the Pope has not put forth one infrastructure bill either, which I-

Greg Bach

No, I'm really disappointed in this.

You know, you know, where is he on pork barrel spending?

I really would love to know.

He's the, I mean, this is like, this was, it was a-

Sunday a Sunday full of postings for the president, but he said quote I don't want a pope who I'm gonna I'm not gonna do the impression I don't do a good Trump I don't want a pope who criticizes the president of the United States because I'm doing exactly what I was elected all caps in a landslide to do unquote He then went on to say that the only reason why Leo was elected Pontiff was quote because he was an American and they thought that he would be the best way to deal with President Donald J Trump

And that's not the end of it, but that's where I have to end it because I just know here actually I'll tell you that quote I don't think he's doing a very good job.

He likes crime.

I guess he's a very liberal person You

Pete Schwaba

know, this is actually I have one more thing to add to this is brilliant branding that what the Pope is doing for the Catholic Church He's showing leadership whether you agree with Catholics or not or the Pope or not I happen to

The church is not as progressive as I am, but

this

Pete Schwaba

pope is a step in the right direction, I believe.

And the fact that he's standing up to war is exactly what you think someone who follows the Prince of Peace should do.

So I think it's something that could galvanize Catholics and give them a sense of purpose again, rather than just being, well, not told who to vote for in every case, but being led a certain...

certain way.

This is just the Pope is against the war, basically.

And

Pete Schwaba

I no problem with that.

He should be.

Greg Bach

It's not a weekend

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crime.

The Pope

Greg Bach

is weak on

Pete Schwaba

war

Greg Bach

crimes.

Yeah.

I mean, it's just, it's, it's, it's really fun.

And I go back to the point that the Pope may, he says, I'm not afraid of the Trump administration.

And I really appreciate it because those are important words to say out loud.

Regardless, you know, I, there are a lot of conversations you can have about the Pope, the Pope's role, the role of Pope, the Catholic church.

You know, but someone like that who outwardly criticizes the president and says, I'm not afraid of you.

I think we need more of that.

And hopefully there are more people out there who get who get the guts to do so.

But yeah,

Pete Schwaba

that's there you go.

Well, she wasn't so weak on crime.

All right.

Number two, Mr. Domley, the second big story.

Greg, are you a gambler?

Greg Bach

No, I

Pete Schwaba

mean, but.

Maybe we should

Greg Bach

it depends on where I'm eating a buffet.

That's sometimes that's a gamble Like that's that's a gamble, but I can't really go to like poly market or Kalsh Kalsh Kalsh I'm not a gambling person.

I just I love my money and I love my money staying in my pocket I don't have a lot of it So I don't know why I would willfully just say hey computer.

Here's some of my money You keep it,

but in

Greg Bach

Wisconsin

It's become a thing now because Governor Evers signs Wisconsin online sports betting into law.

Woo!

This is what we needed, folks, not education or childcare.

We needed online gambling!

Yeah,

Pete Schwaba

I don't... It's Assembly Bill 601, and it allocates the gambling options to all the tribes

in

Pete Schwaba

Wisconsin equally, I guess.

There is some money put aside for...

gambling addiction, which I didn't

know

Pete Schwaba

this.

And I don't mean to focus on this because I know a lot of my friends like to gamble.

I don't.

I'm just, I don't think I'd be very good at it.

And I don't have the money to do it.

But the Wisconsin Council on Problem Gambling estimates that between 300,000 and 350,000 people in the state have a gambling problem.

That's a substantial amount of our population.

Greg Bach

And it's become even easier now when you put that ability on your phone.

Right, you know, you put it on your phone.

They're like, I was joking about before you got, but you've got draft Kings.

You've got Fanduil.

You've got Kelsey.

You've got poly market.

You've got OTC betting.

You've got, you've got cause tribal casinos.

They're trying to build another one in, in Kenosha right now, a hard rock, which the mayor of Milwaukee is against because, you know, Potawatomi said, Hey, be against this or you don't get more our money.

And he's like, okay.

But I, you know,

It says here in the story on 27 WKOW.com says the bill had bipartisan support and the support of a federally recognized tribes of Wisconsin.

The tribe sent the governor a letter on Wednesday encouraging him to sign this into law.

Supporters say it will establish necessary regulations to protect people.

Okay.

But as we mentioned, FanDuel and DraftKings were against this.

They did not like this.

They did not like this probably because now there's other places people can bet.

Pete Schwaba

Follow the money, baby.

Let's try to squeeze in our third big story because we got to go to a break soon.

Greg Bach

Yeah.

Pete Schwaba

The third big story.

Greg, I love this.

Ellen Richardson makes the papers.

It makes the news for all the right reasons.

He's on a couple hit shows.

He's been in great movies.

He kicked his neighbor's butt, who was threatening him a few weeks ago.

And now he is part of a new Netflix show that's going to lead survivalist group.

It's a competition reality show.

And when I was reading about that, it said that he was the last time he was on a reality show was American Idol where he sang Paula Abdul as a much thinner man.

Please

Greg Bach

elaborate.

It's a very weird video.

He's very, he's a very, he's a very silly, weird boy, even though he's like bigger than me in all way shapes and forms.

And if you watch the video, go to look it up.

Alan Richardson, American Idol.

It's hilarious.

And he sings directly.

to Paul Abdual.

Pete Schwaba

You are the sunshine of my life on his knees.

It's

Greg Bach

beautiful.

Give it

Pete Schwaba

a Google, folks.

We're coming right back after the news with Mr. Mike Clemens.

This is Pete and Greg on Civic Media.

Love that song.

Hey, welcome back to nightlight.

Ladies and gentlemen, I am Pete Schwab, a sitting upstate from Greg Bach, who is coming to you from what to do with that wave that Greg is doing right now.

And Dom Lee, who is in Madison.

We are the Yatterhay Triangle here

Greg Bach

and finally

Pete Schwaba

back.

Yeah.

Talking about all things current events this hour.

And now we're going to shift it to some sports because we have one of our good pals here today.

He is, uh, covers civic media.

He covers sports for civic media like a maniac.

He is our civic media

sports

Pete Schwaba

authority and, uh, our pal, Mr. Mike Clemens.

Hey, Mike, how are you?

Greg Bach

Hi, Pete.

Hi, Greg.

How are you guys?

Doing well.

How are you today, sir?

Better now.

Keep it busy.

Mike Clemens

Of

Greg Bach

course.

24 hours.

Well, it's always busy for you.

You're always traveling all over the country.

You're everywhere, all the places, all at once, all the ways.

Mike Clemens

now chasing the teams uh... we had a little blizzard come through about a month ago that they're kind of screw things up a little bit but uh... that now you know uh... uh... you know we got uh... we were watching for this to happen that uh... dock rivers would be stepping down as the head coach of the box after two-and-a-half years we and i saw one headlight that he was fired as i i'm not sure that that's it i mean uh... a month ago steven a smith

The commentator and ESPN said, look for doctors to step down and retire at the end of this losing season for the Bucks because a year of reports and drama about is Giannis won out, is he going to betray, does he want to go to the next year?

All those kinds of things, the injuries that they've had, going back to the Damian Lillard, Torna Killies and everything, and then

You know, we started watching these games and like in the last month, you would watch like the fourth quarter of a game, whether around the road or here at home.

And one day one of the beat guys said, hey, you know, we, like when you guys huddle in the fourth quarter, it looks like your assistant, Darwin Ham, is kind of out there running the plays, goes, yeah, yeah, cause you know why?

He's an NBA head coach and I want the world to see that.

You know, we played that clip, you know, in our sports updates.

Yeah.

So he's basically saying, I'd like to see this guy, you know, consider for my job or somewhere else, you know, back in the NBA to get back to a head coaching job.

He'd been with the Lakers.

And then just a couple of weeks ago, we're just, we have these pregame press conferences with Doc and just kind of checking back and forth.

And, you know, he'd been inducted now into the, you know, he's got plans of summer and August.

He's going to be inducted into the basketball hall of fame there in Springfield, Mass.

And he said, you know, I got grandkids now, like seven, eight years old, and I'm missing, you know, grandpa day and stuff like that.

And I'm kind of looking forward to that.

So he's all but he's telling us.

So does that sound to you like you was fired?

Because I talked to him Friday night, last home game of the year.

First quarter was unbelievable.

I mean, they put up 38 points.

And in the last.

10 games or so they've been you know what they've emptied the bench they're trying to assess this roster guys don't get much playing time how to play they've got this cormac lion kid you know 18 points in the first quarter three-point shot was going and they were playing the kind of offense the dock rivers has been trying to get this team to play really all year because even said on record look at the start of the season

john horse the gmail i knew that uh... this wasn't that deep of a roster after losing damean lillard and the other things they thought that kevin porter jr could replace that role as a shooter next to us he's been out the last month with a swollen knee that had to be scoped about a week ago so he's been shut down so they were in terms of the injuries had so many more obstacles again in the whole time that you know doctor's been a head coach there and so i talked to him about this first period and he's also he just went into the speech listen to this

You'll hear me ask them about how they scored 38 points in the first quarter against the Nets in their win Friday night.

Thank you.

Greg Bach

I mean, it sounds like a guy who is on his way out.

It sounds like a guy who's like checked out and I mean a fiery dock rivers.

I'm Mike.

I've been listening to his post.

game conferences for a while now, and he never seemed fiery at all.

He always, in fact, there were times where I said to people like, it doesn't even sound like he cares whether they win or lose.

Like when they lost, they're like, yeah, I lost.

So what?

Like they're just, I never felt personally like there was a ton of passion behind Doc Rivers.

And I may be wrong.

I'm not the world's biggest basketball fan, but it just felt like, you know, this was another stop for him.

And now he's done and he's going to go play with his grandkids, which is great.

But I never took him as fiery.

Mike Clemens

Yeah.

No.

Maybe he just wanted to overcompensate for that, you know, in certain interviews, one-on-one.

But I mean, he came over and shook my hand.

You know, he's been around a while, right?

Yeah, you know.

I mean, so, here's a guy who came in and thought, wouldn't it be great if I could finish my career?

Because he was actually a consultant for the team before they hired him to bring him in.

He'd also been, you know, on ESPN, too, as an analyst as well.

So with this Yana stuff going on and off and on and off, and even the player Bobby Ports saying about a month ago, I believe on a podcast, so down officially at his locker saying, you know, this Yana stuff is really starting to wear on all of us.

And then it goes to the next level, Greg, in terms of, you know, somewhere, they came back from a road trip, three or four game road trip, and I'm down there and all of a sudden the staff, like the people I deal with every day,

PR some front office they kind of walked around like zombies like and I and How are you Mike?

Are you people and I'm good?

How are you guys doing?

I realized see Peter Fagan the president the last 12 years he's gone and You say hey, what about Brian a new guy?

I haven't met him yet.

Yeah, okay.

I mean so there could be major regime change

What if Wes Eden leaves and they hand it over to Jimmy Haslam?

And then he's already brought in a new president.

I've actually heard some pretty good things about Jimmy, who is the guy that's messed up the Cleveland Browns and some of their trade moves over the years.

But whatever the case, we're looking for, is ownership going to change?

And then after that, are they going to stick with John Horst as a GM?

And then after that, you know, who are they going to hire as a coach?

And then any decent candidate for a coach coming from the outside, like, well, what's your roster going to look like?

Are you going to have Yanis or not?

And which is also why the owners then told John Horst, you will sit this guy, OK?

We don't want to see another blown Achilles.

I don't care if he wants to play with his two brothers.

And if he's recovered from the hyperextended knee, that guy's a commodity now.

And he's either going to resign and commit to stay here for another contract,

or he's property, and we're going to get the most value for him when we trade him.

But he's not going to go injured.

So that's why they sat him.

And it's going to be a busy summer with the box.

Pete Schwaba

That's the voice of Mike Clemens.

He's talking about Yanis there at the end.

He is our civic media sports authority joining us to talk about many Wisconsin sports stories, just to put a button on this mic.

That makes sense, because I was like,

They had a winning I think they were like 48 and 34 or 32 last year or whatever and then Yanis only played like 40 games this year So he can't really put all of that on Doc Rivers, but I do agree with Greg I never heard crazy passion in his voice since he's been here.

So Great reporting my friend.

That's that's really

Mike Clemens

excellent.

Yeah, and then and the number 36 out of 82 games Yanis was there 36 games this year That's how bad and of course the last couple he wanted to play

But they sat him down.

They shut him down.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah.

Greg Bach

Was

Pete Schwaba

I'll go ahead, Greg.

Greg Bach

I was going to say, was there tension?

Is there tension between Yanis and Doc Rivers?

I mean, again, like now that he is apparently on his way out, people are revitalizing the question.

OK, where is Yanis?

Is is he going to stay and maybe have a hand in like picking the new coach and telling what he wants in order to stay here to win, to possibly bring home another trophy?

I mean, like it kind of leaves the.

Unfortunately, the Bucks are looking for another head coach, but also it bring in when it's sandwiched with does Yanis stay.

Do you think Doc Rivers leaving gives Yanis more, more value as far as staying here now he can like maybe start a new or just does he want to get out?

Mike Clemens

No, I think that Yanis would love to stay in Milwaukee if they had a roster that they thought they were working around them.

They did not have that roster.

Then on top of that, they had the injuries.

And Yanis is like, this is wasting my time.

But whoever's going to be the Janice's new head coach has got a lot to handle there because Janice is a 14 year old kid who just wants to play every day.

And that's part of his problem.

He's 31 and he needs to act like a 31 year old player and not play for a nation last summer.

And then wonder why his calves were out halfway through the season.

Pete Schwaba

That's great.

Yeah.

Mike, I know we have some other things we want to discuss.

Maybe we've got to do a break in about two and a half minutes.

You want to give us an update on Chris McIntosh, the.

Another person who stepped down as the athletic director of UW, and then maybe we could do some brewers talk after the break.

But what's going on in Madison?

Mike Clemens

Badgersextra.com, breaking the story last night about six or seven o'clock that the athletic director for Wisconsin Badgers, all those sports programs and over 20 programs, is leaving.

And he's taking a job, a new job being created at the Big Ten conference.

And so, you know, I'm texting about one buddy that's a former player, a part of the alumni, he says, yeah, I'd heard something like this starting Friday, wasn't sure, but how about that?

And when you start to look at it today, it's like, all right, look at, you know, he's made some good hires, like Mike Hastings, the head coach of the men's hockey team that got all the way to the finals of the Frozen Four.

So that was the last three years.

But, you know, the Luke Fickle story as the head football coach has been, you know, up and down.

This NIL thing has been a whole new landscape in the last five years.

And he's going off to the conference that doesn't have to worry about this stuff.

At the same time, look at, I mean, his, his boss, the chancellor, Jennifer Nukin, she's taken a job with Columbia University.

I think they made that official today.

And then the board of regents fired the president of all the universities, Jay Rothman.

Do they know?

I mean, in other words, Chris McIntosh is looking at this.

I'm going to have a new chancellor and a new, you know, board of regents.

You know, I'm out of here.

I don't know who my next boss is.

And it's this turbulent waters.

I think that's what's going on in Madison.

Pete Schwaba

That's crazy because, like, as an alumni and a player, it seems like that's the dream job.

And what he's going to do for the conference seems so kind of vanilla.

But I guess if you're a climber, maybe he has more opportunity there.

Mike Clemens

And the decision makers are done.

And I asked, well, is Barry Alvarez going to get involved?

Like, no, you know, Barry's retired.

He's in Florida.

He's got tea times.

He's got

Pete Schwaba

sandwiches.

Yeah.

All right, great stuff.

Mike Clemens is here, folks.

Civic Media Sports Authority and our pal.

And when we come back, I'm sure Greg is gonna pepper him with questions.

Get that baseball reference

about your

Pete Schwaba

Milwaukee Brewers.

We're coming right back at Nightlight

Kathryn Lake

with Peach Waba and Greg Bach on the Civic Media.

Pete Schwaba

Welcome back.

All right.

Now you got me pumped up down, sitting in my car all day, little stones.

Now I'm ready to go.

That's the goal.

I don't know what I was doing before guys, but I'm with you now.

All right.

Uh, this is a nightlight with Pete Schwabba and Greg Bach.

We are talking to our pal, Mike Clemens, who does an outstanding job covering sports.

And he's been a busy guy this weekend.

Uh, Mike, I think you need a couple of assistants with all these stories going on right now.

Tell us what is going on with Greg's Milwaukee Brewers, a five game skid, not

Mike Clemens

good.

Oh, God.

Yeah.

I mean, there was a whole thing last year where the Brewers had never lost more than three in a row.

Now they've lost five in a row.

And that's the first time that's happened in the franchise, I think, in three years.

First time since they've lost a series, been swept by the Nationals since 2011.

The nationals came into town and they were kind of playing some brewer ball.

You saw them very aggressive on the base running.

A couple times though, the guy would get caught in a pickle and get thrown out because the brewer's infield is so

Kathryn Lake

good.

Mike Clemens

But the bats started going silent in the last week or so.

But the road trip that they had out against the Red Sox and then coming home this weekend.

And at the end of the game last night,

Pat Murphy went back to just saying, look, man, you know, there's no Jackson Cherry away right now at that fractured hand.

And Andrew Vaughn, first baseman, another, you know, long ball hitter.

He's been out with a fracture in his hand.

So they'll be coming later.

In terms of the rotations, like, you know, leverage pitchers like Jared Koenig, a starter like Quinn Priester, Rob Z, they'll get some of these guys back.

So they've had a number of injuries.

And then,

at the end of the game and we you saw um... christian yellich exit after an at bat he's got a hamstring i don't know how bad it is because but he was going in for an MRI after yesterday's uh... lost uh... to the to the and look like the national like the brewers going to come back jake bowers crushed one out to right field i thought it was going out and i thought about three feet short of all you know the warning tracks so they had the best the hits just went falling the right places yesterday

Greg Bach

They just kept losing their leads and and blowing ties and like they only one game where they got Like they got smoked the rest of them there were there was there was some decent hitting and some and there are runs coming and they just couldn't keep up and you know I'm watching a game where they're losing and Then they come up to tie and then they just start losing again or the other night where was three three and then boom I look at seven three like

it's it's like it feels like a systematic failure right now where it's not just the bats in the or the pitching.

It's a combination of both.

And as you said, with early on injuries now, we're already looking at Christian Yelich with, you know, getting an MRI.

We're looking at it.

Just it just feels very off putting that to start so strong.

And now we just boom, like kind of lose it all in the matter of a week.

Mike Clemens

Yeah, but you know at the end of the day you talked to the starter Brandon Woodruff Woody after the game yesterday's like you know it pumped the brakes now we're not the wheels aren't falling off here and Although yeah, okay.

It's not like we've lost five-year-old around here This is pretty normal baseball for April and for the kinds of things that are going on and you know We'll find ways to circle around now They got a good team coming in tomorrow night was in the world series the blue Jays so they open up a series against them

Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday at home before they have to go back out on the road.

To me, it's just a sense of they just weren't getting the breaks that they usually get, because other than that, that infield is unbelievable in its defense.

And Joey Ortiz, he had a chance to be the hero the other night, and he grounded out.

He could have won the game, and that's why he bats.

nine, but between him and what Bryce Trang does in second base, it's incredible what they, how good they are on defense.

Greg Bach

Yeah.

It's just, it sucks to watch them go from first place.

Now they are in fourth place and that's not fun, but baseball game

Pete Schwaba

out of first two though, right?

Greg Bach

Well, I mean, the standings, I mean, it's like right now the standings are really weird because.

I don't like looking at fourth place.

Okay I had enough of that back in the day.

Thank

Pete Schwaba

you.

Uh, Mike, uh, our guest is Mike Clemens, a civic media sports authority.

Uh, we've got about a minute, minute and a half left.

Can you tell us about this, uh, cool event coming up with, uh, your Green Bay Packers?

Mike Clemens

Uh, the tailgate tour is out there.

And what's big difference this year is it's not Mark Murphy doing a shaggy green.

Hey, everybody.

Hey, hey, welcome.

It's a

Greg Bach

reference.

Ed

Mike Clemens

policy.

How I knew that he would like that.

It's Ed policy.

Uh, that's the emcee because he's the new president of the team.

but they're going to have some of current players like edger and cooper it's going to be out there the great linebacker with some former players out there like desmond bishop was a linebacker in the super bowl team and randall cob is convenient to run james jones and so they're going around that they'll start off in green bay tomorrow morning and they're coming down to a rescene county i'm going to chase them there at a couple stops non-pleasant then they go across the state they're going to go to diaries old to the uh... field of dreams uh... and before they make their way back next saturday to green bay

Greg Bach

Oh,

Pete Schwaba

that sounds like a

Greg Bach

blast.

That's

Mike Clemens

always a good time for the weekend.

You saw that.

I saw that.

Yeah, the wide receiver.

But see, they got some draft picks out of it.

And Wicks has been a good receiver.

I think he's kind of hit his ceiling.

And the Eagles are trying to stock up at wide receiver.

And so Goodykins with those picks he had to give away to get Micah Parsons, that huge deal with the Cowboys.

He's got a fifth round pick coming up in a couple of weeks.

and a six-round pick next year.

And Wicks got signed by 12 and a half million dollars in a one-year extension with Philly.

He was never going to get that money in Green Bay.

So I think it worked out for both teams, really.

Pete Schwaba

Holy cow.

That's kind of a genius move, actually.

Mike, I can't believe we got through.

When I got your text this morning, Mike, there's no way we're going to cover all this, but we did.

Solid stuff, man.

Thank you so much, pal.

Professional.

Mike Clemens

You bet, boys.

Have a good... I appreciate the show and I'll have a report for you from the tailgate tour on the road this week.

Pete Schwaba

Thanks, Mike.

Outstanding.

Thanks, buddy.

All right.

Mike Clemens, folks, follow him on Twitter at Mike Clemens NFL.

And he does such a great job.

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Greg, is he

Greg Bach

on both?

Yes.

Yeah, sports.

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Pete Schwaba

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Greg Bach

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