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Jennifer Nowicki on Tea & Bringing It Into Your Everyday Life (Hour 2)
Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Fri Mar 27, 2026
From Washington to Hollywood and right back to Wisconsin.
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Dude.
And Greg Bach.
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Welcome
to
Nightlight.
You go.
It's casual Friday.
I was a little too casual.
I didn't feel the need to have my camera on, Greg.
And you panicked, and I apologize for that.
I didn't
panic, but I also feel like people listening on the radio are like, what do I care if your camera's on or not?
I was way too relaxed.
Welcome to Nightlight, folks.
I hope you're relaxed.
I hope you're having a great Friday.
Wherever you're joining us from around the state, where we broadcast, it is great to have you.
You made it through another week.
We made it through another week.
And I think we're all doing just wonderfully here.
I am Pete Schwabba looking down the state.
Greg, is that what we decided?
I'm looking down the state at you, down the shoreline.
Yeah, you're looking down at me, basically.
It's what we decided.
You're
looking you.
in Merry Christmas Land USA, Marinette, Wisconsin, looking down here in lowly radio park in Racine, I guess that's how it's working.
We're on the same body of water, I find that kind of...
I don't want to say intimate.
That's weird, but like we're sort of on the same wavelength and Dom is Lake Michigan adjacent in in Madison there.
So We're all here though.
That's what's important and we're here together on this Friday night.
So happy Friday guys.
How are we doing?
Good save I'm doing quite well.
It's Friday.
I'm excited I've got a weekend of nothing that I have to do but there's stuff I want to get done
So for me, I'm very like, yeah.
Your Brewers are in first place.
Our Brewers are undefeated right now.
First place.
Can someone just mail us the World Series ring?
We'll just take it right now.
Thank you very much, everybody.
And if anyone's like, how can you talk like that?
I'm a Brewers fan.
Trust me, I'm kidding.
But yeah, I'm excited.
It was a it was a good game yesterday.
I do not let my head get too big on those kinds of victories It's great to win an opening day.
I love that, but it's not something where I'm like, well, that's it Everyone
else just
turn it in just put all the brewers on the all-star.
No, it's it's it's it's 161 games left and We will have ourselves a good season.
I believe with Pat Murphy two-time coach of the year at the helm
I
love Pat Murphy.
I have a cool name.
Pat Murphy.
He just passed away a few months ago, but even before that, Pat Murphy is a great interview.
Mike Clemens loves talking about him.
He was on the show last night.
He's just got a great approach.
He reminds me a little bit of Phil Jackson, how he used to coach the bulls with his Zen and his,
he would
always say something to get people thinking and just kind of have fun.
But Pat Murphy is a little more playful and just really likable.
What's funny is that the likability and all that awesucks very.
However you want to describe it, anger is other sports fans so much because they think he's just being fake.
I'm like, nope.
That's him.
That's him.
You have a problem with joy, but that's not my problem.
So Pat Murphy's our guy and, and I love him.
I think he's great.
And so yep,
go
bro.
Go bro crew.
Go.
That's my crew.
That's my crew.
And, Dom, on the other hand, your team is, well, defeated, as is mine.
But it's a long season.
We got a long way to go.
There's no reason to panic yet.
You're not jumping ship yet, are you?
Not yet.
I want to see how tonight's game goes, though.
You know, that's the big... This is going to be the true test, you know?
I know it's... If we lose, it's an 0-2, but, you know, that's pretty big, you know?
For a White Sox fan, I just... I get too sad about that.
I can't... You
know, for a White Sox fan, you should be used to it.
Wow.
You're right.
Look at the bright side, Dom.
You're only 0-1.
That's true.
And you're not a Rockies fan.
True.
Yeah, so there you
go.
All right.
I watched almost an entire basketball game yesterday.
I watched Illinois and...
And Houston, honest to God, like I always, at this point in my life, I come in for like the last five minutes.
And if it's right there, if it's close, I'll watch it.
But I was just lazy last night and it turned out to be a great game.
And with the Badgers out of the tournament, I'm kind of going for, I think Illinois or Iowa State are my teams.
You threw
down?
Cause you're Illinois,
right?
Yeah, there you go.
There you go.
There you go.
There is something to be said about watching sports when you have no dog in the race whatsoever.
That's one of
my
favorite things to do is go to baseball at other parks.
Like I went to a game at Angel Stadium in Pasadena or Anaheim, Anaheim.
And it was the...
It was the angels versus the A's.
It was a third place team versus a fourth place team.
And I was like, I don't care who wins.
I'm just going to have fun and watch baseball.
And it's amazing.
I love going to baseball games when I don't care about either team.
It's less stressful, right?
No, exactly.
And you wear Brewer's gear and you're just like, yeah, what are you going to do?
What are you going to do?
Do something.
I totally relate to that.
I had a moment, my college roommate and I were big.
professional Chicago sports fans and we would lock ourselves in our dorm room and watch the Bears and one time they lost a close game and I picked up a chair and I'm like ready to throw it.
I look at the TV and here's my team hugging the other team and laughing with them.
They played the game and
I'm
the spaz moron who's taking it that.
Seriously, and
I guess
it really changed my outlook.
I still get invested, but I'm totally with you I love watching a game where you really don't have a horse in the race
That's why it's really hard for me to dislike teams like I get frustrated about certain teams and it's usually around like the fact that they just You know like the Dodgers have a huge payroll and it's very hard to compete against things like that.
It's not impossible
Just difficult.
But then when I watch these games and I see these guys like rounding second base and they get to second base and then they're laughing with the guy who's the second bait and like, why am I getting upset?
Those two are buddies.
Like, let's, oh yeah, it's a game and I'm not playing at all.
It shouldn't matter one bit.
So yeah, I get
what you're
saying.
I have to take moments where I have to say, take a breath, it's fine.
So.
They're going along John
Silver's
after
the game.
It's Friday, guys.
This is a blast.
Hey, we have a new segment.
We're rolling out today, which is kind of exciting.
In the first hour, we'll be doing it at 535 called Binge or Cringe.
And Greg, let's take this time to invite people to play along.
We'll tell them we're going to each talk about a show that we're binging or is binge worthy and then one that is cringe worthy or that we find cringe.
So share your shows with us.
That's at 535.
And we'll tell you kind of what we're watching and maybe what you should avoid but let's have a discussion and open this up tonight like listeners
Absolutely, and not only that we have a great show for everyone this evening in these in the six o'clock hour We're gonna be talking where the name goes right?
Oh, I'm looking at the wrong rundown everybody Jennifer
no
wiki
Jennifer Nowicki is our guest.
She is the owner of Cultivate Taste Tea and is a certified tea specialist through the Specialty Tea Institute.
She'll be joining us to talk about tea and how we should bring it more into our life.
So that's going to be in the second hour.
Not to mention, we'll be talking about a question night, which we'll get to in a moment.
A whole bunch of other things as well as the nightcap to round things off, but it's going to be a really fun show.
Yeah,
I'm excited.
I'm excited to do the question.
Let's do
the
question.
What are we doing here?
Let's get to it, Dom.
Let's talk about the question.
Okay, question.
Question.
Question.
Pregunta.
Question.
Question.
Okay, I have a question.
Questions.
This question.
Domanda.
Question.
Question.
Your casual Friday question of the night, folks, is in honor of Quentin Tarantino's birthday.
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We've got a few casual Friday stories to get to, guys.
What do you say?
Time for casual Friday, baby.
Let's do
it.
All right.
The first big story.
Big news coming from your favorite guy in the world there, Pete.
Your favorite dude.
We're opening with the boss, I love it.
I thought, yeah, of course we are.
Thanks for throwing that bone my way.
Yes Bruce Springsteen starts his land of hope and dreams tour next week and he says and I'm warning everybody I have friends on both sides of the aisle He says it's going to be political and he is not backing down.
He said we're gonna go out there We're gonna defend America and we're gonna we're gonna do this, right?
He said the East Street band was built for tough times and these are tough times
And here's what I'll say.
Yes, Springsteen is political now.
I feel like he didn't start that though.
He has been singing about the same stuff from the Stone Pony Club when he was 19, the working man, people struggling, what's going on in the streets.
That's been his message from day one.
And I think all of a sudden people had an issue with that.
And I know he's saying born in the USA, people miss the meaning of that.
It was kind of a tongue-in-cheek song about America and Vietnam.
and people still played it at their fireworks celebrations, but it was kind of a protest song.
So he's always been that guy.
So when people get in their 50s or 60s or whatever and say, oh, he used to be good, he's not, he's never changed.
He really has not.
He has been that guy.
And if you can't put politics aside and enjoy some great music, I feel bad for people that can't do that.
I do that.
I have lots of actors I like that I know are Republicans or right wing or whatever.
I don't care.
I want to be entertained.
I think it's just funny to me that there are folks out there who fit the exact description of what Bruce Springsteen does in his book.
The characters he sings about are the people we know in our lives.
Blue collar working class folks and the songs he is writing to uphold those individuals, to shine a light on everything that's great about that.
Those same people are like, no, stop it.
Don't do that.
That's bad.
It's
like,
dude, he's singing for you directly.
He cares about you right now.
Why are you plumping for the billionaire over there when this almost billionaire likes you more?
He's singing about the struggle that we all have.
That's what I don't understand.
And he covers some Guthrie tunes and he sings with Fogarty, who also sings some anti-war songs
and
stuff like that.
To say that, oh, he's political, he's against the troops is nonsense.
So
he just drives me crazy.
That's bologna pants, I will tell you that much.
But I think you're right.
He was never overtly political.
He just sang what he sang and it had a message in there.
I feel like people made him have to become political.
Like he had to
say something finally and they forced him into this and they shouldn't be shocked that he's like, no, I believe in the working class, blue collar.
That's what I sing about.
But yeah, that's, I'm sure it'll be an amazing 42 hour show a night.
And he's one of the few billionaires who
can still sing about it.
Because he's officially a billionaire.
I understand singing about the working man.
All right, we've got a couple more stories we're going to discuss here.
Welcome to Casual Friday, folks.
This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba and Greg Block.
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Welcome back.
This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba and Greg Bach.
We are joining you this Friday night and happy to have you aboard.
Fun show tonight, folks.
We've got
Owner of Cultivate Taste Tea Jennifer Nowicki coming up in the second hour.
That's gonna be fun at 535 after the news we'll do binge or cringe a new segment We encourage you to be part of share a show you're binging or one that you are Cringe watching whatever you so desire our keyword for our multi-state break in a spring text to win contest this hour is Splash S P L A S H Splash so text that in only on the app
And good luck.
Our question of the night is, what is your favorite Quentin Tarantino movie?
But we were in the middle of our three big stories.
So let's get back to that, Greg.
The second big story.
So I'm, you know, Pete and I are in the world of comedy.
We've been there for a long time.
And one of the most, I would say probably the most prestigious honor of all comedians is the Mark Twain humor prize that's bestowed upon one lucky comedian every year from the Kennedy center.
And even though last week they vehemently denied actually quote forcefully denied about this.
Bill Maher will be winning this year's Mark Twain Prize, which makes me very unhappy, because I do not think that he should be getting this prize.
Period.
Here's the thing.
When he launched Politically Incorrect on ABC, or maybe it was Comedy Central, I can't remember, it was the early 90s, I kind of thought it was a good show, and he wasn't afraid to say what he thought.
And then he kind of became more liberal and now he's swinging back and trying to appeal to both sides of the out Which is fine if that's what you do as
long as you're
not grifting.
I think he's kind of grifting I think he's trying to remain relevant and
here's
why I have an issue with this award Greg.
I don't think He is not the humor guy he's like 70 something now if he was gonna win this it should have been 30 years ago This
seems like
a lame attempt
And I don't think he should have won it then either.
There's funnier people.
He's fine.
He can be funny and
tell
jokes and all that stuff.
But I just feel like this administration can't get it right.
It's like, now he's getting it now.
And Carolyn Levitt went out there and said he's not getting it.
And then she had to go out and kind of eat crow.
Like it's just a mess.
And I feel like this is almost by default.
Yeah.
I just think it's one of these people who they say, well, he sort of seems to like the president.
They hung out and had dinner.
So give it to him.
And
Yeah, he's spoken, you know, whatever.
I just don't, I think he is, I think he is sanctimonious.
I think he's self-serving.
I think he is arrogant, smug.
I don't think he's very funny.
I think he...
thinks his opinion is right no matter what and everyone else is wrong.
And as far as the age thing goes, I mean, like, you know, Steve Martin has won it and Conan won it a couple of years ago, or was it last year or the year before?
But that was one of the best ceremonies ever.
That's on Netflix.
Watch that prize ceremony on Netflix.
But I just think that this is, this is the, this just like, it's like the, the, the correspondence dinner they're going to have this year.
Trump is going and they're going to have like a magician.
Like it's just the thing of like packing it with people who support or like or even give the whiff of liking and to me Bill Maher is nothing more than I don't know if I'd call him a grifter But I would definitely call him riding trying to ride the right coattails I don't know what he's getting out of it other than just remaining relevant But I don't see him like pushing his own line of pillows or fragrances But I just think this is a bad move because I don't think he should get it I don't think he's funny and I think he's proven over and over again that he is he is
anti-Muslim he is he is just not right for this award so boo the Kennedy Center
yeah and I misspoke I don't mean that his age should have disqualified him I meant he's not as funny now as he was 30 years ago why is he winning now I guess was my uh non-articulate point I was trying to make but yeah and he gets its old hat too like when he talks about you know
He doesn't want to be married.
He is borderline creepy with the girls.
He dates.
It's a little
weird.
And, um, you know, and I just think like, and he hates kids.
It's like, he's kind of one note.
He
kind of
know where he's coming from all the time or whatever.
His show is good.
He designed a good show.
It's not as funny as it used to be, but whatever.
All right, Dom, if you please.
The third big story.
Greg you thought sharks were scary before well try a shark on caffeine or cocaine or painkillers because that's what's happening my friend in the Bahamas Oh, this is not happening in Florida.
Oh my gosh
is Florida upset about this I Feel like they're like encroaching on Florida's brand right now
This is from news nation sharks in the Bahamas have tested positive for cocaine caffeine and painkillers Showing the impact of marine pollution.
Well, I assumed it was from pollution and they weren't
It wasn't like the Land Shark coming out of the ocean to buy some Coke.
But they've analyzed blood samples from 85 sharks, 28 of them had drugs of some kind in their system.
How do you
like that?
This reminds me of Cocaine Bear, the movie Cocaine Bear.
Oh, great.
I didn't want that.
Great.
We got a sequel.
Nobody asked for Cocaine Shark.
Or what was it?
Was it Pain Killer Shark or Pill Shark?
Sharks on Pills.
Tyler.
It's all the sharks with bad
backs.
They're looking for those handouts.
Oh my God.
I mean, it really just says that we're all going through hard times.
Even though a marine life is, they need to kick back and forget about things too.
And look, man, I ain't gonna hate on some sharks for partying a little.
Things are tough.
Things are tough.
You're misunderstood for so many years and you're not as, I mean, yes, they can hurt you, but they're not as vicious as you think.
And frankly, I feel like dolphins have been getting a free ride for way too long.
That's a nasty creature right there.
Nasty.
The dolphin.
Dolphins are maniacs.
Aggressive.
I can't even say on the air some of the things they do.
It's just insane.
But sharks.
Did I miss something?
I'm here for you, buddies.
Oh,
wow.
Yeah, we, you know, our shark brothers and sisters
should be
able to partake.
Dolphins, I know are one of the only other mammals that have sex for pleasure.
That's the only thing I never knew dolphins were
sometimes well, you know this dolphin hatred you guys have I don't have dolphin hatred.
I'm just saying that they are an incredibly aggressive animal
Okay, we are coming right back after news sports and weather folks for our first edition of binge or cringe tonight's key This hours keyword is splash for our multi-state text-to-win contest break into spring text-to-win contest text that in on the app.
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And we will be right back with binge or cringe.
This is Pete Schwabba and Greg Bach on the civic media network.
I feel the shiver run up my spine.
I feel the warmth of a hand in mine.
Ooh, are you laughter in the rain?
Walking hand in
hand with the one I love.
Ooh, how I
love the
rain.
We're going to slow things down now, folks.
That's an interesting choice, Dom.
I like that.
Hey, this is Pete Schwabba.
This is Nightlight.
Greg Bakas here.
He is on the other side of the stage for me.
We're working the show.
We're helming the show from opposite sides of the water and the state.
And I find that admirable, Greg.
I think it takes a special kind of duo to do such things.
It takes a dynamic duo to do such a thing.
I like that.
Thank you very much.
Could not agree more.
We have a fun show tonight, folks.
We're gonna be talking about tea.
in the second hour with Jennifer Nowicki, the owner of Cultivate Taste and Cultivate Taste Tea.
She's coming up at 6.20.
Right now, we are doing something kind of different, kind of cool.
It's casual Friday here at Nightlight.
And we decided to do sort of a fun segment called Binge or Cringe.
And
this is where the three of us, Greg, Damley, and myself, are going to talk about a show we are binge watching or have binge watched.
And one we've cringe-watched or given up on or we just think is terrible.
And we encourage all of you to share whatever you might be watching as well, whether you're binging, cringing, whatever you can text it in, call us.
However, just be part of the fun.
And I think this is exciting, guys.
Anytime you start a new segment, there's always hope.
There's always hope,
yes.
Indeed.
So who wants to go first?
Should we start with Domely?
Oh, boy.
I mean, of
course.
Do
we have music?
We have an intro.
We have an intro.
There we go.
Let's do it.
Oh, well, let's start with that.
Yeah, let's do that.
Hit it or skip it.
We're sorting out what's worth the watch and what belongs in the never again category.
This is a segment we like to call Bend Your Quench.
Okay, how much fun did you have doing that I'm very fine.
It was awesome.
I love it.
Oh
wait that was that was you The more you know You are a master of voices.
I had no idea my goodness
my
goodness
All right rich little
yes, so I get to go first you guys get you guys appointed me okay if you like you pointed All right, so something mmm a binge worthy show
Yeah, I'm gonna have to go fallout.
I I love fallout.
Okay, it's the reason is because it's just so amazing There's no actually
no
reason for it.
I played the video game.
So I just know I got attached to it very quickly That's my binge-worthy show nice now my my cringe-worthy show I will admit.
Yeah, it's it's everyone's watching.
I'm sure it's the office.
I'm just
I do not like that.
I think it's a cringe-worthy show.
Are you talking about the US version?
Yes, the US version.
I've watched it once and I just said, not again.
It's just not my cup of tea.
I don't know.
How much of the office
have
you
watched?
Every season, every season.
Oh, you cringe-watched the whole thing?
I
did, I did.
And this is a long time ago.
It's too much
cruising.
I have a I mean, I don't know how you feel about the office Greg I my history with the office is I watched the British one It was one of the best shows I've ever seen 10 episodes 12 episodes I think and then they wrapped it up with the Christmas special Mm-hmm.
I was reluctant to watch the American version because I just thought they're gonna Americanize it.
It's gonna go on too many episodes Well, I was wrong.
I admit a total Mia culpa I started watching it probably two years after it was on and I think they actually kind of did a better job because the season was so long and they managed to make it funny
for five solid years.
And then at times it was funny after that.
I think it's a great show.
It was funny for five years.
It's an eight
season show.
Well, yeah, but I mean, I think most shows have trouble staying either relevant or funny after five seasons.
That's just my opinion.
I don't just agree with that.
I think that Americans sitcoms, the ones that I would say in the traditional vein of that 22 to 24 episode season, it is tough to nail that for.
a prolonged amount of time and I personally feel like a lot of comedy should just ditch out at five seasons or at least allow yourself like my big problem with a lot of shows is that when you like when you watch a show like when you do something like that when you watch all the episodes in a row and you know okay I'm coming up on season seven and season eight's the last season
You kind of want to feel like there's going to be a good dismount and sometimes it just doesn't happen.
And I'm my biggest, my biggest example of that is going to be the big bang theory.
Like I love the big bang theory.
I've watched that, but that last season for knowing it was going to be the last season with so many episodes, it feels like it wraps up in my head, like so disjointedly.
where it just doesn't feel like everyone gets as good a send off as Sheldon does, but that's just my opinion.
But yeah, I mean, I, I'm fine with the office.
I don't ever turn it on.
I've watched, I watched up, I watched it through Michael leaving.
And then I was like, I think I'm good.
I'm a parks and rock guy.
I love parks and rock.
I'd much rather watch parks.
And I feel like that's, it's sort of the new, like, are you a Beatles fan or a Rolling Stones fan?
Do you like.
the the office or parks and rec and I prefer parks and rec but I get that in the office it's it's good it's fine but it's
you
know
nothing crazy I mean it's to me it's Steve Carell and Ed Helms and I came around on Dwight Schrute yeah it really won me over so those are good Dom well done buddy thank you that you have you
guys watch fall out though or
I've
seen
two episodes
I have not yet.
I want to watch it, but I have not watched it yet I also feel like that's gonna be a TV show where when I start watching it I mean it's gonna be like I'll watch an episode or two and then later that night I finished the first season
It's a
binge worthy show.
Let me tell you I've done that.
Did you play the
video game Greg?
No, I don't play video games
I'm a dork.
I feel like it's weird.
I live in a day and age now where I feel like a dork for saying I don't play video games.
We're back in the day when
I was a kid.
If you were a
video game player, you were a dork.
Now it's like, oh, you're a dork who doesn't play video games.
Weirdo.
The nerd sides have switched completely.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Exactly.
That's awesome.
We are in the middle of Binger Crinch here, a new segment we're trying out here at Nightlight.
I'm Pete Schwabba.
Greg Bach is on the other side of the state or downside of the state and Dom is in Madison.
Greg, you want to go?
Yeah, sure.
So a show that I binged, I mean, I think I watched it like in one sitting, if not one, definitely two for sure.
But I watched a show called Ludwig, which is on Britbox.
It's a
It's a murder mystery, comedy, drama, cop show with starring David Mitchell of Mitchell and Webb.
And he plays a gentleman named John Taylor, who is basically his whole life is making puzzles and crossword puzzles for like newspapers and what like is very famous for doing that job.
He does crossword puzzles and other kinds of things like that.
And he has an identical twin brother who is a cop and he has disappeared.
And the brother who makes puzzles
decides to impersonate him to find out what happened to his brother.
And like all British shows, it's six episodes.
So as soon as you're done, you're like, where can I have more?
I know.
It certainly, it currently sits with a 97% rotten tomato score.
And I think it's fantastic.
And I just hope we get a couple more series before it's done because that's how it works with British shows either.
They're on for one series.
or one series and then three years later, a second series, or it's on for 48 years and it never ends.
So, but this is a really good show.
I really, really enjoyed it.
And I would say one that I, I don't know if I'd say cringe watch.
I mean, I liked it, but people didn't.
But the Marvel show iron heart, which was filmed a few years ago.
but it finally came out last year.
And I really enjoyed it.
It's about a young girl who goes to MIT and she basically it's like this, you know, the, the, the, the spirit of Tony Stark is in her system.
She wants to help society and she's brilliant like he is.
And it's, you know, it just wasn't well liked, but I watched it and I said, this is really fun.
I really, really liked this story.
I wish, I hope we get more, but we.
probably won't But yeah, that's those are my those are my bench.
I if I'm gonna throw like a real cringe with the one I'm not gonna say a show that I'm watching.
I'm just gonna out my Sister she watches that show levels blind on Netflix and I watched I Watched 30 minutes of it and I just got up and said nobody on this show deserves happiness and I walked out
Guilty I watched that show.
So pretty
good.
Oh, it's so bad Who's in that?
It's a reality show.
So no, oh
God
Okay.
I'm not a reality guy.
I admit that.
Neither am I.
Neither am I. I don't like reality shows.
I don't enjoy competition shows, except for like the first portion of the voice back in the day.
But like those shows where they like, they basically just have to be the worst versions of themselves.
Right.
So they can get attention and win or whatever the winning is.
I don't know.
But I just, I was like, this is terrible.
I don't like this at all.
So that would be the only one I would, you know, if I'm watching a show and I'm enjoying, I'm enjoying, I'm trying to think.
I'm trying to think of one that I didn't enjoy, that maybe is cringe, but at the top of my head, it's not coming up with anything.
The problem is like when you don't enjoy it, you typically stop watching it, but there are, and that's cringe too, but also you can watch for a little longer.
Nan in Brookfield on the text line in the 262 says, hi, Pete and Greg, I would binge the pit and cringe love story about JFK Junior and Carolyn Bissette.
Nan from Brookfield, have a great weekend.
Thank you, Nan.
You have a great weekend as well, and thanks for playing with me.
I've heard nothing
but amazing things about the pit, but it's
also one
of those shows where you have to prepare yourself.
Yes.
Because it's so just heavy and emotional.
So Jack from Merrimack is on the phone right now.
Jack,
good
evening to you.
What show do you find binge worthy right now?
Well, I don't do streaming.
I haven't done my son.
been a while, but the bottom line is I get theories that I think are interesting on DVDs.
I got the first three seasons of the foundation series and it knocked my socks off as a sci-fi fan.
World building and the special effects, the acting, I mean it's just amazing especially through a sci-fi fan.
My recommendation for Bingeworthy.
They're talking about as many as 80 episodes.
I watched the first 30 in three days.
Wow.
That's impressive.
That is impressive,
Jack.
You
could go pro in regards to TV
watching.
That's fantastic.
Wow.
Holy cow.
Man.
Awesome.
Oh, thanks so much.
Did you have a good wait?
Do you have a cringe one check?
No, I do not.
Like I say, I don't do any of the streaming services.
So I don't really have anything that I've seen enough that's cringe worthy.
I just get the DVDs are the ones that I think are interesting.
I want to just be so serious also with who's the guy that played Mag.
Tom Selleck.
Yeah,
Tom
Selleck.
I
thought it was quite good.
But, but no, no cringeworthy ones that I can think of.
You
can stay positive.
That's awesome.
Thank
you for
the call.
And we're about to go to break.
So Pete, I think you should hold on to yours.
Okay.
And we can talk about
it on the other side, but we're seeing some texts come in.
AJ from Madison said, would switch from Seinfeld and 30 rock, but now I don't have 30 rock mornings and nights.
Okay.
What does that mean?
I don't know what that means.
I
will say this.
I watch Seinfeld and I'm, it's whatever.
I don't like.
You're just whatever on Seinfeld?
Yep.
Yeah.
Wow.
It's fine.
It's good.
I mean, I understand its cultural impact.
I understand why people love it.
But for me personally, I'm like, okay, I get it.
And that's, you know, I'm good.
I'm good.
Yeah.
That's
all.
Look, I go back and forth because I watch TV shows when I go to sleep.
I go back and forth between Seinfeld, Cheers, sometimes friends.
I like to keep it light.
And yeah, I'm a big time Seinfeld fan.
But I can't binge watch the...
Half hours anymore, but I typically do the dramas, but I'll tell you what I'm binge watching and cringe watched After this break folks, we are coming right back.
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Always fun to be played in by the Bodines.
Love it.
A fine Wisconsin band.
All right, so this is Peshwava.
Greg Bach is downstate.
That's a good one, Greg.
You just live downstate.
I live upstate.
We could keep it simple, right?
You live upstairs.
I live downstairs.
Yeah.
And we are your...
And Don lives down the street.
Tonight,
like tonight, Don is in Madison holding down the fort, working the board.
We're in the middle folks of a new segment.
We're trying called binge or cringe and we've enjoyed your texts and your calls Please we'll talk about this for a few more minutes You can weigh in if you're binge watching something or if you find something cringe that you want to share You'd be doing us all a favor.
So feel free to share any of
that
with us All right, so I guess I'm up I my binge show and I've got so many
But is the one I'm going to go with now is slow horses.
I don't
know,
slow horses.
I watched the first season and then I started watching the second season and I just sort of faded off.
Okay.
It just did not hold me.
Again, another show everyone loves and I understand why they love it.
I'm not saying it's bad, but for me, I was just like, I think I'm good.
Wow, I've
heard of it,
too.
I get
that.
Yeah.
97%
on rotten
tomato, too.
Wow.
Say that again, though.
97% on rotten tomato.
That's really good.
And I think he won an, they've won awards for the show.
Like, I know I'm in the minority here on that opinion.
Like, I don't even say I didn't like it.
It's just, I feel like I've maybe watched too much at once and I need to come back a little later.
Oh, that could be.
I love it.
I love Gary Oldman.
I love the guy who plays Jack.
That might be his actual actor name, but it's a great show.
They are like a disgraced section of MI6.
And they
get all the crap cases, but Gary Oldman's a genius.
He always ends up solving the cases.
And you're right, Dom, 97% on Rotten Tomatoes.
It's really good.
Really funny thing they did was Stephen Colbert interviewed Gary Oldman because his character is kind of a pig He's got holes in his socks.
He farts all the time drinking and they put fart sounds in all of his other movies that were serious
Gary
Oldman
I've never seen a guy laugh like that.
I love
the
guy.
He's got a sense of humor about himself.
It was great, but really liked the show and binged like, I think it was season four or five recently.
And
it was
like, I just wanted it to keep going really.
It's one you can really jam through the episodes.
And it's a British show.
You might want to put on the subtitles, but it's really a show.
My cringe show, I'm almost more excited to talk about.
I'm sure you guys haven't seen this, but maybe you've heard of it.
All's fair the Kim Kardashian juggernaut legal drama Oh, she heads up a firm of divorce lawyers all other beautiful women an LA law firm where they're not afraid to show cleavage in the court And this in her name on the show is allura like there's nothing clever
about this, but she knows her audience.
That's who's watching the show.
It came out, it got a 5% on Rotten Tomatoes, like historically bad.
Some of the reviews said, worst TV show of the year or ever, labeling it a dumpster fire.
Critics blasted the Ryan Murphy legal drama as a brain dead, existentially terrible, unforgivably dull.
I mean, it's a bad show.
I watched 40 minutes of it.
It's absolutely awful.
Well, and that's the thing too is like Ryan Murphy doesn't need to do everything, right?
Like he is always making TV shows.
And by the way, congratulations to all his fair.
You've made it up to a whopping 6% on rock.
But like listen to the, listen to this cast, Sarah Poulson, Glenn Close, Nisi Nash, Naomi Watts, Tiana Taylor are all on that program as well.
And somehow it is just the, I mean,
The day after it premiered, the screed on social media was just like, who is getting fired tonight?
Who is getting fired because of this show?
Because people just hated it.
Reading those social media reviews gave me hope.
I was like, okay, these are social media people who I oftentimes kind of disparage, but they were right on point.
This is a bad show.
It got renewed almost immediately though, because audiences, it was
like a 65.
Are you serious?
Yes, because her crowd watches it, and they think she's a genius.
So what are you supposed to do, right?
The numbers speak, it's a bad show though, all's fair.
Check it out if you really want to cringe folks.
If you want to binge though, I recommend Slow Horses.
Gordy on the text line in the 608 says, I got turned on to Homeland in February, finished eight seasons in six weeks.
Fellow couch potato, awesome Gordy.
Love it,
love watching
some color TV where you can't walk away, it's outstanding.
And I binged Homeland too with Claire Danes.
Pretty good show, Mandy Patinkin.
Um, he says OMG, the writers were effing amazing, uh, certainly had a love hate relationship with Claire Danes portrayal of a CIA agent.
I think that's what they were going for.
So yeah, I get it.
I watched the, I watched up, I watched that show up until the point where what's his face like took off.
And then when I was like, all right, well, I'll come back for next season.
Then I never came back.
It was fine.
I mean, like, again, it was fine.
It was very,
it was
a, you know, and I love Mandy Patinkin.
He is just fantastic.
Like, and you know, the whole cast was wonderful, but.
I can't believe all's fair.
Got a second season.
That's just, there's no truth.
There's no justice.
I can.
Oh, disgusting.
Disgusting.
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He says, on the topic of burgers, Muya has the best burger.
Muya is outstanding.
Oh, this is from last night.
Yeah, this is from last night.
OK.
Yeah,
we're
tough.
Muya, where is that?
Well, there's two in Madison.
There's one down the street on State Street.
Then there's one near
Sun Prairie.
One in Middleton, too.
Yeah.
Where?
One in
Middleton.
Oh, it's
done.
All
right.
Great stuff.
All right, should we get out of here and get this?
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Let's come back, though.
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But just with varying degrees of like, oh yeah.
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It is Quentin Tarantino's birthday, one of the famed Hollywood directors of our time, and our question of the night is, what is your favorite Quentin Tarantino movie?
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And for those of you who might not be, I kind of thought this would be a homerun question because he is such a renowned director.
However, I think people probably hear him and go, oh yeah, what did he do again?
Well, you got Pulp Fiction.
You've got, he wrote True Romance, which is
a
great, great film.
Jackie Brown.
Reservoir Dogs.
Reservoir Dogs.
Kill Bill 1 and 2.
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
That's my personal favorite.
And let's see what else Jackie Brown kill bill oh red or reservoir dogs you said but Django unchained The hateful eight the hateful eight.
Yes hateful eight So he's got apparently we went over this a little earlier.
He's directed nine films He says he's only gonna direct ten.
I
don't know
why why that's important or not, but we're
anxiously Tarantino fans awaiting his 10th film to see what he will direct.
And as Greg mentioned earlier, maybe that was during this super secret show, he's doing a follow up to Once Upon a Time in Hollywood called The Adventures of Cliff Booth.
But as I understand it, he just wrote the story and David Fincher will direct it.
So very excited to see that as well.
Yeah.
So where are you, Pete, on the Quentin Tarantino filmography?
I mean, how many have I seen or how do I
just feel about his work?
Oh, how about that?
Let's how many of you seen have you seen all of them?
I've seen all of them Hateful eight.
I would have to go back and watch again.
I think I was kind of dozing But yeah, I've seen them all and I I really I loved once upon a time in Hollywood.
I like when he changes history
Really people who
dislike that a great deal really see well, that's kind of Well, it's a hook in those movies, but like
I don't want to see, you know, like once upon a time in Hollywood, he changed history, the course of history in the film and saves Sharon Tate's life.
So Manson and then they messed up Manson's people.
It was a great ending to me.
And
I
loved DiCaprio and I loved Brad Pitt's character in it.
I just thought it was one of those hypnotic kind of movies.
I love the scene at Spawn Ranch with all the Manson people and, um, Bruce Dern's scene.
I love, love, love that movie.
I would say my second favorite is probably Pulp Fiction with Reservoir Dogs as a close third, but loved Kill Bill, but I'm a fan.
I think he's a student of filmmaking and he's great at it.
Whether you like him or not, he's kind of a weird dude.
But yeah, I think he makes great films.
What about you?
Uh, Jackie Brown hands down is the best film I believe he made.
I think it was beautiful.
It's, it's, it's
small and it's like, you know, he, he went on to make bigger movies over time.
Of course they all, they all do that.
And, but to me, Jackie Brown, especially coming off of Pulp Fiction.
that movie, that cast, everything about it, the fact that like, you know, I don't know, I just, I just really, really liked that.
That's a movie I can watch at any time.
And I would probably say a second in line would either be Kill Bill or Reservoir Dogs.
I know people who truly do not like him changing.
Like a friend of mine once said he's like, I'll never watch in Glorious Bastards because my father's fought in World War II and he found it offensive that,
Tarantino changed the ending and somehow, like he felt like it demeaned what his father was trying to do.
And I understand that a lot of people will say, well, it's just a movie, but I'm not also going to tell my friend to discount his father's veteran record in World War II.
So like, I understand that.
And plus I read an article years ago, how that, you know, changing the ending, changing what actually happened in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood could be seen as disrespectful of like, oh, well, you know, they didn't live.
And now you're trying to propose this idea that
They did live and I, you know, I get that.
I don't really care either way.
I just know some people don't enjoy him changing history in his movies.
But I liked Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
I thought it was fun.
It was cool, but definitely not on my top list for me.
For me, it's going to be Jackie Brown is number one always.
It's like one of my favorite movies, period.
But
for him,
that is my favorite movie because Pam Grier is amazing.
And I mean, you just get a moment of Michael Keaton that movie that is just awesome.
So
I really, really enjoy that movie a lot.
What about you, Dom?
I gotta steal Pete's Mojo here.
I gotta say Once Upon a Time
in
Hollywood.
Really good.
I love Brad Pitt, which helps a lot.
So I gotta say Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
I gotta ask though, you Greg, what is the plot around Jackie Brown?
I've never watched the movie,
so.
So it's about a woman who is just trying to live her life, trying to do her thing, and she gets caught up in a...
like a burglary essentially there's so many she's well She's living her life, but she's doing some things that are kind of illegal too and it's just about it's just a story about her trying to live her life around like this this guy played by Samuel L Jackson who is psychotic and then there's Robert De Niro who plays this guy just got a jail and it's You call it a heist movie.
It's not a heist movie.
It's just basically a story where I
I'm not, it's not a good description.
I'm sorry about that, buddy.
But like the cast though too, you got Bridget Fonda, Samuel L. Jackson, a very young Chris Tucker, Michael Keaton.
Was that Robert Forrester in that?
Robert Forrester, yeah.
Yeah, that's actually the movie that brought him back for a time, right?
He just, you know, Tarantino, that was Tarantino's thing back in the days.
He brought these people that we were making fun of or forgot about for years and said, no, they're good actors.
And we were like, oh, John Travolta is a good actor.
He was always a good actor.
It just like a lot of people made some bad choices.
And then all of a sudden Hollywood said, Oh, you were our hot guy for 10 minutes.
We're done with you now.
But I mean, it's just the story of a woman just trying to live her life, making some of the not best choices ever.
But at the end of the day, doing what she needs to do to survive and make sure she protects herself.
And yeah, I just, I absolutely enjoy the heck out of this movie.
I would suggest anyone watch this movie.
Well, adults, it's got a lot of swearing in some.
I need to rewatch it.
Yeah,
I
saw it.
I've only seen that once, but I really liked it.
It's
a great film.
Luke on the text line says in the 608 says, and glorious bastards.
And I hear what you're saying, Greg.
I'd never really consider that because I think when Tarantino changes the ending, it's out of love.
He wanted to kill Hitler.
He wanted to save this woman.
He idolized Sharon Tate, but that's certainly a valid, you know, if people think that, yeah, you can't tell them their opinions are wrong for sure.
So, yeah, and I think another great one he did is True Romance.
He only wrote it, Tony Scott directed
it, but it's
Christian Slater and Patricia Arquette, Dennis Hopper, Christopher Walken, they have a classic scene.
Gary
Oldman.
Gary Oldman, yes, he plays the, I don't know if I can say
the word
on.
He's playing like a, he's trying to, he's playing like a dreadlocked dude.
Like he's just, he's a bad dude.
He's one of the best bad guys.
I mean, his character in The Professional is one of the greatest villains of all time.
The man has just got intensity that I don't understand how one like conjures in the moment like he does, but yeah.
He also wrote the story.
He didn't write the movie or direct it, but he wrote, he had the story for natural born killers.
And then Oliver
Stone wrote it and directed it, but that was his original story.
And they just released.
Kill Bill, the whole bloody affair.
So they took both movies and put them together with a new unreleased footage.
So it's like four plus hours long, which was what it was supposed to be when he made it.
Cause it's one movie.
It's just broken
up into
two volumes.
But yeah, I gotta watch that.
I loved Kill Bill.
That was an amazing movie.
I really wish they make a third one, but I don't think that's ever going to happen.
I want to say too, like Dom, you like Brad Pitt.
This is going to sound like I'm joking or taking a shot at him.
I am not.
Brad Pitt, some of his best acting is in true romance.
He plays a stoner who
is
the roommate of the guy they're looking, the Clarence is looking for.
And Tony Soprano, James Gandolfini comes in looking for this guy and Brad Pitt is stoned out of his mind on the couch.
And he's really funny.
It's a very quick scene, but he's very good in it.
Going to the social media, we've got our pal Rich Luccasio, who says, once upon a time in Hollywood, what an amazing soundtrack.
That's right, it did have a great soundtrack too.
And Jenny Brand, our civic media colleague, love Jenny, she says, once upon a time in Hollywood with Kill Bill, volume one, a close second.
That's
interesting that you wouldn't have volume two, because to me, it's just one movie.
Right.
two separate, I would say two separate stories, like told very differently, but still, I, yeah, I'm going to watch that whole thing this weekend.
I think that's going to be tough to do, but, but yeah,
we had a, I was working in Indianapolis at a comedy club with a Milwaukee comic named Mick Lasinski, who,
do you know
him?
Yeah, I'll tell you later.
Okay.
He was headlining.
I was middleing and we decided we're going to go to this movie and it's
Pulp Fiction, which is non-linear, you know, Travolta
gets
blown away, and then all of a sudden a scene comes in and Travolta's alive again.
Well, you know, there's these two guys, I think there's only four of us in the whole theater, and this guy, he's sitting a few rows away, sees Travolta alive again, he goes, what the?
Wait a minute.
What's going on?
Like, he's out loud, talk, I go, dude, this is not an editing flaw.
Trust me, this is going somewhere.
What I like is that you're...
Your impression of that guy watching Pulp Fiction and being confounded by John Travolta sounded exactly like Vinny Barberino from Welcome Back Goddard, played by John Travolta.
What's going on here?
What?
I don't, what?
Yeah.
Dude, it was beautiful.
Yeah.
It's, I mean, that was one of, I think that was one of those movies that probably for me said like, you know, I don't, I'm, I wouldn't call myself a film, a cinephile.
So.
Seeing films that are like non-linear in that sense where maybe that was one of the first ones I saw where you but I at least like put the connection together because right cuz cuz what they're wearing in that scene says Oh, that's when it's taking place.
Gotcha.
Okay.
I just like Wait, well this was back in the day.
So it's like I paid 650 for this
All right,
it was
the
middle
of the day, downtown Indianapolis.
Oh, that's funny.
That's
really
funny.
And those are those memories you have with one comic.
You have
one memory of the
comic you worked for, you know what
I mean?
Absolutely.
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Jennifer Nowicki is our guest this evening.
Good evening, Jennifer.
How are you today?
Oh, pretty good in yourselves.
I am doing well.
Pete, how are you doing?
I'm doing well.
I
have
questions for Jennifer regarding tea, and I am going to keep you busy, Jennifer, because that's a great topic.
Welcome to the show.
Well, thank you.
I appreciate it.
You're very welcome.
Go ahead, Pete.
I'll let you take it away.
First, I have to ask you this.
I was reading about you.
I know you were in the food industry before this, and you're all about quality.
and, you know, authenticity in food and tea.
How did you make that transition?
Tell us a little bit about what you do and how you got into the tea game.
Oh, well, ultimately, I've been drinking tea all my life.
I do not remember the first time I drank tea.
I drank tea with my grandmother and she actually drank Chinese green tea.
So it's a little different that way.
Eventually, when I was, you know,
an adult, a young adult, I had moved to Seattle for a little bit.
And even though it's known for coffee, there is a huge tea industry there.
And I saw some exquisite loose leaf teas.
I wanted to know more.
I wanted to be in the industry, but I felt like I needed more information before I felt confident.
So I found the certified specialty tea institute in New York City.
And it was a five year journey.
And I knew once I got there that it was the thing I wanted to do, if that makes sense.
Oh,
absolutely.
I mean, that sounds like a great apprenticeship.
And that, you know, as a former apprentice myself, I love that kind of training when you find something you love.
I guess the question I have right off the bat is, what, I mean, you talk about wanting to learn more, but what was the thing then that just said, I must, I want to make this
You know, this is my passion now, and I need to know as much as possible because you hear a lot of people talking about many other topics, but T is not one that people say like, I'm running towards.
What is it about T that just makes you so happy and wants you to talk about it with other people?
The fact that, I think it ultimately started, as you said, where the past kind of, this is when I took like the T-101 and T-102, and it's just like, I was...
I learned and I want to learn more.
Cause you know what I mean?
There's sometimes where you're learning something.
It's like, this is great.
But just maybe it's not my thing or you know what I mean?
But once you find your thing, you find it.
And it's just like, even though I do know quite a bit, I'm always learning more.
I'm learning from other team masters across the world.
Cause I guess I'm, I don't know.
I guess I'm trying to go for the, for the best, you know, learn from the best.
and to be very deep in the knowledge base of my industry.
That makes sense.
Oh, absolutely.
I want to ask you, I know I'm going to mispronounce this word and I've watched videos on how to pronounce it and about T is it terror, terror, terror.
What say it again?
Terror.
Terrar.
Can you explain what that is and how it pertains to tea?
Because I've only heard it described in how wine is made, but it's kind of similar with tea, right?
Bringing out an authenticity and nuance.
Yes, it is.
It's basically, literally, terrar can be the soil, it can be the climate, the elevation, all that.
It's just, I guess, the general environment in how that affects.
the way tea tastes and also can be year to year or even in tea it's you know can be flush to flush uh which is picking you know a picking uh when you pick tea it's called a flush um and it can also be even if you can have somebody right next to you and they're the tea will taste different you know what i mean it's the varietals there's maybe that's why i'm so intrigued with tea is because it is literally just water
in tea, but yet there's so much depth and complexity to it and it is that way it is definitely similar to wine.
Is it something where you can taste it and you can say this was made here or with these ingredients?
Is it like a sommelier type of training you get where you can understand where the tea is being made as far as its ingredients?
Well, what it is is that
I did take a professional cupping class.
And then if you go to the upper level classes, you're literally cupping while you're learning.
So you help develop your palette.
So we are cupping a dragon well or Longzhen from China.
There's UNESCO World Heritage Site for this one.
So we know what a good quality dragon well should taste like.
Or you know, we need close to that.
So we have, you know, we have a better idea because otherwise, you know, how
I guess that's kind of, I would think that would be kind of similar to wine that way when you know that this is what is the epitome of what it should taste like or, you know, it's very close within a range too.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, I want to ask you about, we have about a minute before we have to go to a break and then we have more questions on the other side, Jennifer.
But when you talk about tarar, to the, actually, I'm going to ask this question and then let's get your answer after the break because I'm having trouble articulating it.
I want to ask you how people, the regular person would be able to taste the difference because we've all had like store-bought tea or tea in restaurants, but on your level, I would like to ask you what the difference is.
between something that's been through the process of terror and authenticity and where the leaves are grown and all that.
And if there's a discernible difference that the average person could taste the difference in, if you wouldn't mind just thinking about that question during the break.
And then we'll come back and discuss it some more and find out where we can find out more about you and your products and what you do and more information.
All of that is coming up, folks, on Nightlight with Pete Schwabba and Greg Bogg.
After the news, Jennifer Nowicki is here.
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And before we went to the break, Pete asked a question.
Pete, do you want to restate the question?
Yeah, I'm trying to articulate this in a way that
like we were talking about the process of tarar where you make the tea and you cultivate it and it's all authentic and organic.
And all this effort that goes into making perfect tea, Jennifer, you know, I've had cups of tea in like a Japanese restaurant or at home from the grocery store and I thought, oh, this is great.
Would the average person be able to discern something that's taken so much care and time to make?
with a different cup of tea from somewhere else?
Like all that effort, tell me it pays off, please.
I think me, it depends.
Maybe in the beginning they might be able to do some.
Usually the stuff that you get from the grocery store tends to be a little bit bolder taste profiles.
Not saying that you cannot find some bolder, loose leaf, you know, artisan teas like that.
But they're usually a little bit more delicate and there's a little more for fine so maybe it may take a little bit, but I mean I think if you have a few of them cups of to you be able to discern that a little bit I know that when I first took the cupping class I didn't my
Pellet was not fully developed if that makes sense.
So there it does take some time, you know, and then as I said, we did, you know, four years.
So your pellet definitely can develop.
I think you can get some, but I don't, I don't, you're not going to get anywhere, you know, that somebody has been doing this for years or decades, if that makes sense.
I think you kind of know the difference, but you know, if someone's intrigued, they can develop the pellet more.
Exactly.
And you, so you are the owner of cultivate taste team.
What, I mean, you know, there's a lot of places out there, there are tea shops and coffee shops and whatnot, but what is the ultimate mission of cultivate taste tea?
When you were there, what are you, it's not just to serve great tea, but it's also like, what is the mission of that, of the business that you have as far as like putting forth the knowledge you've learned over the past three decades.
Um, it's just to, um,
I can use one of my old taglines is to infuse the passion of tea into people.
I just want people to, I don't know, see the depth and complexity that there is in it, because I really do, and I do get those customers.
My mission is I sell online, I sell nationally and internationally.
Um, I have wholesale accounts.
I'm in actually some specialty distributors across the United States.
I got a new one literally, uh, a day or two ago.
Um, and it's a big one, but I'll be in the specialty area.
Um, and it's just, and I, and earlier, um, this week, um, and it went live.
Yeah.
The other irony is, is, um, I was in a podcast that was from Europe.
So.
Oh, well then.
Wow.
Jennifer, here's my history with tea.
I'll give you the short version.
I love tea.
I want to be an even more, a bigger tea drinker than I am.
I do like coffee a lot.
So there's only so much caffeine or beverages you can drink in a day.
I typically drink tea in the afternoon, because it's less caffeinated.
Can you talk a little bit about the health benefits of tea?
A, and then tea versus coffee.
And they both have tons of antioxidants.
Coffee's a little richer, but do you drink coffee too?
So if you don't mind, the benefits of tea and then your thoughts about tea versus coffee.
All right, the benefits of tea, it'll have L-signing, antioxidants.
There are many teas, especially, that's evolved in changing.
I know that white and green for sure, maybe some Oolongs.
that's the least research and health benefits out of NET category that has the ECGCs.
There's specific ones.
I have one that has a source from China that has selenium in it naturally in the ground.
It comes up.
I have one from Taiwan where this Oolong that naturally has GABA in it.
So there's some specific things you can also say that for
aged or dark teas, Puerh's, most people know of it as for over a thousand years in China.
If you have an upset stomach, you know, if you ate, you know, heavy food, that's what they drink.
So, I mean, there's, there's that.
And also too, is that's the little bit of the difference is, is that usually tea has less caffeine naturally.
That, that's the ironies is technically the plant.
tea, the tea plant, the leaves will have more caffeine than coffee.
It's just easier to extract it from coffee.
I don't personally drink coffee.
I do respect that there are some people who are the, you know, there's a craft to it.
I respect that.
It's just not what I drink.
And that's partially also why I went and got into tea.
Yeah.
And the althining is a calming uplift.
It kind of
I don't know how you want to say it, but you get the caffeine, which will be the uplift, but it's calming.
So you very rarely, and I don't think I know of anybody who's gotten the jitters from it.
That can happen with coffee.
I'm not gonna...
Sure.
That's a great answer.
One of the things you've mentioned this term a couple of times, and I saw this in an interview in Tea Journey from last November about...
cupping what what exactly is cupping and then it also talked about your palette development like how did you learn like first of all what is cupping and then also the development of your palette because I feel like a lot of folks out there might be intimidated by so many teas they might like it all tastes the same to me like how did you develop it and how does one who like maybe like me and Pete like saying to make it better and more refined Go about refining that palette
Um, well, I can say is is that
I took a professional cupping class in my specialty t-institute thing.
I did literally when we were um you know the four four of the five years we were really cupping so we did start to develop our palette and that you know it's just kind of like if you want to go to college type of thing you know that's a good starter sometimes but you know if you if you did go to college but you know you have it helps to have also world
real world experience, if that makes sense.
Or like an apprenticeship that way.
You know what I mean?
That there's other ways where, you know, it kind of, it helps you with a good base, but you develop more as you get on.
Let's see.
What else?
Well, I'm trying to think of what else was asked.
So
just what the term cupping means.
Oh, cupping is kind of tasting the tea to
get the structure, the taste profile.
It's kind of interesting.
It's basically, usually it is like, they use the same amount of tea when you do cupping sessions, you usually do multiple teas.
And there are professional tea tasters in certain countries where they work for different...
farms there and they'll have like 40 different teas and they'll be tasting them.
And it's a process.
You smell the leaves, you smell them when they're dry, you smell them when they're wet after they've been steeped, you make sure that the amount of tea you use is the same, the amount of time you use is the same.
So it's just, and it doesn't always,
have the best tasting tea, but they do that so they can taste it to see the characters of it and if there's any defects, if that makes sense.
Gotcha.
Okay.
All right.
Our guest is Jennifer Nuiqi.
She is the owner of Cultivate Taste Tea and a certified tea specialist through the Specialty Tea Institute.
Jennifer, we've got a few more minutes here.
I just want to ask you, you're in Green Bay.
You've been all over you said you were in Seattle.
I know you lived in Vegas for a while I was mistaken about New York But you got certified through there and you've kind of been all over how did you end up in Wisconsin and more specifically northeastern Wisconsin?
Well, I'm originally from Green Bay, Wisconsin.
I was born in Bellin Hospital if that makes sense.
And
you had
a
cup of tea
in your hand within moments.
Exactly, literally.
I didn't cry first.
I had a cup of tea.
That's a funny image.
So really quick, you know, you
mentioned earlier, you know, you've been doing this for nearly 30 years, and you are a master at what you do.
What do you still learn today?
I mean, there's a lot of people out there who can say, I know everything, I'm fine, I don't need to learn from anyone, blah, blah, blah.
But you just said yourself, you're still learning, what are the things you learn after so many years that blow your mind and say, I, you know, I still have so much more to gain from this topic that I've given so much passion towards.
Well, I can tell you that literally just this first of November that weekend I went to a Buddhist monastery in Wisconsin and they flew in a This person is a Japanese tea ceremony master and this is generational his father so he literally grew up
doing this.
And this is, and that's the thing is, if you know, Japanese tea ceremonies, there are a few different ways of doing it.
And you also know is that it takes to be considered a team master, you have to be doing that specific ceremony for at least 10 years.
And just that.
So over the weekend, and this one was a little bit
Um, there's not as many, um, steps to it.
It's a little, I guess easier.
And even then, I know I'm totally a beginner, but I, I would love, I don't know.
I, I guess I'd like to go deep dive into things that, you know, make me passionate.
Absolutely.
So, but yes, I would love to know, you know, the intricate details.
Cause I know, and I know that they were being a little nice that way, but you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Type of thing.
So.
I don't have those solutions that way.
He's the master at doing
that.
My last question, Jennifer, and thank you again for your time tonight.
It's kind of a two-parter.
Where can people find out more about what you do or your expertise?
Where can they find you to kind of chase you down and pick your brain a little bit like we just did?
And also, what do you think about people who put stuff in tea like they do coffee?
Is that a taboo?
I mean, does that kind of kill the whole idea of nuanced tea tasting?
I personally do believe that.
Part of the reason is when we were training, when we're cupping, you're doing the straight up tee.
That's how we were trained.
And I guess it's kind of, since then, I mean, it's not that I've never had it, some things added to it.
It's usually me being respectful to wear type of thing, but that's not what I do.
But.
You can get me on CultivateTaste.com.
You can get my wholesale, my online.
I'm in sub-stack.
I do have a Cultivate Taste Tea sub-stack.
Great.
And let's just see what else is.
Oh, I'm doing tea festivals across the United States.
Excellent.
So you can get me there too.
And I'm more than happy.
I'm standing.
If I get enough people, I'm more than happy to do some tea education for people.
love it.
Thank you so much, Jennifer.
Jennifer Nowicki is the owner of Cultivate Taste Tea.
She is a certified tea specialist, and she was here with us tonight talking about tea and why you should get it in your life.
I'm going to try some this weekend, maybe.
So Jennifer, have yourself a lovely weekend.
We appreciate your time.
And I appreciate you for having me.
I truly do.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
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It's like and then you hear so cup of tea.
It's a cup of tea cigarette before No kids Before we get into that really quick Michael in Madison listening on WMDX sent this really lovely text Hey guys been a minute gonna him in here kind of feels like the first time I'm going back to the favorite popular dusty dive bar after new owners have renovated to a fancy things up and I'm like what
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Yeah.
Uh, he hasn't been around in a while.
I haven't seen Andrew.
I
know it's been a hot minute since we've seen Andrew.
Yeah, but he says Pete wants to be steeped in T-knowledge because the pun is just sitting there.
Well done,
Andrew.
Can I just say something really quick?
Jennifer Nowicki was a great guest and her, her, her education and her, her expertise is beyond compare.
So it was really, really hard for me not to make a, well, it's not your cup of tea joke.
Oh.
Dude, it was sitting right there.
It was sitting right there, but I did not want to do it because I did not want to disrespect Ms.
Nowicki.
That's not my job to be an idiot, but Foon Clown is one listener once referred to me as.
It's not your cup of tea.
Not my cup of tea, so.
Andrew also says, oh, I wish we had seen this Greg
during the
interview with Jennifer because he had a question.
He said, are there any good teas grown in Wisconsin that might have fit into
an old segment known as beyond the cheese.
Well, technically, Jennifer fits into that format.
So there used to be a segment called beyond the cheese on Matt and Aaron air.
Oh, small business owners around Wisconsin.
She is a small business owner from Wisconsin.
So by hooker by crook, bing, bang, bong, zip, zap, zap, beyond the cheese, sort of indirectly.
It's, uh, it's fun when you have a
I guess who's so passionate like you can
hear
in her voice like when you ask her a question She's like oh my gosh, and then she would get into it and it was like just pure joy.
It was great.
So that was fun Pete.
What did you learn tonight?
Um, I learned that I need to even though I
looked up how to spell terror ten times that was seven hours ago and I need
to do
a quick recap before the show but I learned what you guys are binging and cringing cringing and that was fun and it was fun to talk about that stuff and I'm glad we got listener interaction so this is an information exchange here that was fun learning what you guys like to watch on color television
I learned that I shouldn't be intimidated by the concept of tea and just try some doesn't matter if it's like You know like a something you've a standard one that you buy at the grocery store Or maybe something a little fancier if it's something you want to try go for it.
That's what I say plus We got to save our sharks in the Bahamas because they are on the drugs Wow really really really down there
wait.
Have you never been a tea drinker Greg?
You've had
no I like tea.
I enjoy tea It's just I feel like I've never immersed myself into it or found the tea that I love, you know, there's some people out there
They were like, this is my tea or my coffee, but I've never done that.
So, yeah.
What about you, Dom?
I feel like I want to have a passion like Jennifer.
Yeah, that's kind of what I've learned is like, maybe I should find some cool niche that I don't have right now, but I want to.
Hold the horses there.
You talk about cooking.
You're getting into cooking.
That could be something.
That's true.
That's
true.
Maybe you can make your
own big arch.
You can call it the big Dom.
A
big taco.
The the the do taco.
That's the domco.
I don't know.
We'll spitball it.
We'll
workshop.
We have to do that,
yeah.
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