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Meteorologist Mace Michaels on the winter’s large surge into March (Hour 1)
Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Tue Mar 17, 2026
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Hey, buddy.
No, it's a great It's a great night to be here and I think it was Newman on Seinfeld once that said Tuesday has no feel and Kramer said I feel Tuesday and Wednesday
And Jerry told both of them to shut up.
But I like these days.
I like it's like we're back in the flow of the show and things are jamming and we're almost midweek.
It's a great day.
Exactly.
We've got great guests tonight, folks.
As you know, you may or may not know.
If you live in Wisconsin, you dealt with weather the last few days.
I certainly did up here in northeast Wisconsin.
Mace Michaels, a civic media weather guru, Mace Michaels will be here at 5.35, kind of giving us a storm roundup and putting a bow on this horrible storm that has crippled much of northern Wisconsin.
So we'll talk to Mace in just a few minutes after news, sports and weather.
And then we've got our pal Rob Thomas, the great Madison film critic and city cast Madison newsletter editor will be here at in the second hour.
So that's a show, Greg.
frankly, I
but
Thank you.
Let's talk about the question question question
Patrick's Day?
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Well, you're the one who brought this up, buddy.
So we're going to keep on bringing this up for forever.
All right.
But I think we're ready to move on to the three things.
The
I like St.
Patrick's Day.
I have to say I haven't celebrated it like in the way of making corned beef and cabbage or going to a parade in many years, but I still...
You know, it's weird.
I've talked about this before.
I think it's weird when people are proud to be something they had nothing to do with.
You know, if you're a good person, you can be proud of that because you made yourself that way, maybe with the help of others.
But I am Irish and I guess I'm proud to be Irish.
My ethnicity matters less to me.
I tell myself that because I had nothing to do with it.
But on St.
Patrick's Day, I do get kind of excited.
I mean, that's, I mean, I am, I am, according to, you know, depending on where it lands on 23 and me, because it changes it, like I, I spit into a cup and send it into space.
And they were like, there you go.
This is, this is what you are.
Um, but.
I'm a little bit Irish, more Irish than I expected, but I don't do, well, you know, I'll talk more about my thoughts on St.
Patrick's Day in the second hour, but I don't do that anymore because I think one reason is because of what you just said, Pete, but also the other thing is for me, I don't like to go out and party and do stuff like that anymore.
It's just like, oofers, it just feels like there's a lot happening.
well it's a big it's a big drinking holiday too i haven't had a drink in a few years and i i would still go out if friends were going but it's it's kind of like when i was younger and could tie one on and have a great time i will say my favorite thing about being irish and you don't need to be irish to do this but you know my dad's kind of an irish tenor he's got this beautiful singing voice
I don't have a great voice, but I used to sing to Rallura when I was walking my daughter, Kate, trying to get
Well, there's also always the opportunity of doing research into where your family comes from, specifically in those places.
I mean, I feel like there's opportunity for folks to go out there and learn more about themselves, especially now.
We have so many ways to...
to not just like it, you know, family stories are great.
The the the oral tradition is great and found in the family to like talk about where you come from.
But honestly, like, I think it would behoove people to really do deep dives into where they come from because I think it just gives you a roundabout.
idea of yourself as well as how you connect with others especially when we talk about this conversation of like you know America we are a nation of immigrants and people want to say like oh I'm you know it's we want to say we're a nation of immigrants and we're like no I'm an American but then you're like but I'm Irish like well you can be all of those things but I think it just makes more sense to then find out about yourself and where you come from I just see nothing but benefit.
You do not know.
Who knows?
It's true.
Very true.
If Larry David found out on a TV show that his like great, great grandfather fought for the Confederacy and he never knew, there may be a horse thief in your family.
Pete, I believe in you.
It could happen.
Well, fingers crossed.
We'll see.
Fingers crossed.
Absolutely.
But we'll get more into that in the second hour.
Plus we will get more into our big three things because.
We've got things to talk about here, folks.
Then coming up after the news, we're talking to Civic Media meteorologist Mace Michaels.
That's just fun to say.
More about that.
And yeah, we're, it's a fun show so far.
Happy St.
Patrick's Day, Pete.
Happy St.
Patrick's Day.
I think it's going well so far.
We'll keep at it.
Top five, I must say.
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I like the music too.
I love Irish music.
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How are you and happy St.
Patrick's Day.
Thank you.
I'm definitely not Irish.
My friends used to say that I was probably one-fifth Scotch and most of the rest of soda.
But, yeah, anyway, I know it's an old joke.
But one of my favorite things used to be to go to a friend of mine, Gig, in an Irish bar in Milwaukee here, and...
High-ranking person in there.
excuse me Joe Kent who was a US is a was a senior US intelligence official He was appointed by Donald Trump last year has stepped down because he can no longer support the war in Iran Saying I cannot quote I cannot in good conscience support the ongoing war in Iran Iran posed no imminent threat to our nation and is a clear and it's clear that we started this war due to pressure from Israel and its powerful American lobby that is
Big
So I don't want to, I want to read this for people.
This isn't the CNN, CNN article that I'm looking at.
This isn't a guy who is like middle of the road, you know, sort of, this is what they say.
The resignation is the highest profile rebuke yet of the war effort from a Trump administration insider and staunch supporter of the mega movement, albeit one instantly drew criticism for alleged anti-Semitism.
So this guy is not like you're, you know,
sort of liberal in the middle guy working for the Trump administration.
He loves and stood for MAGA.
So this, I think this, this is how, in my opinion, Pete, this is how things begin for, for the downfall of certain movements.
You see, you know, I think them bowing to the pressure for Christie known to be fired.
Well, reassigned Greg Bovina, Greg Bovino in, in, or yeah, but yeah.
Dan Bongino, Greg Bovino, Greg Bovino in Minneapolis being reassigned and he's going to retire now.
So it's like these small things happening that make a big deal.
This guy doing this publicly, I think is a big deal for the fact that he, as you said, let the cat out of the bag.
This is, this is, and, and it's, and he didn't say this, but I believe this to be true.
It's also a deflection from the Epstein files.
But I had my doubt.
I know Trump.
He's a showman.
He's, you know, does big things to promote himself.
That assassination attempt...
I'm not saying I have definitive proof.
I don't obviously, but there was something, the timing, everything about it just seemed suspicious.
This guy is coming out now and saying he doubts it.
Here's what's interesting though, Greg.
He says he doubted it from day one.
So you doubted it from day one, but you stuck with him all this time and now you're coming out because the ship is taking on water.
You're still just as bad a person if you're not saying something initially because someone died.
So I don't know.
There's issues in the mega world right now, though,
and they got to,
when
Yeah, of course, because he needs headlines because the last time we were talking about him, it's when he said, well, you know, what's so wrong with certain forms of pedophilia?
It stays that bad?
Is that bad?
Did he say that?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
He's a terrible, terrible, terrible person.
Oh, dear.
I could talk about him for an hour and just bore you to tears No, don't worry, I'm glad you brought it up because it's important to talk about the downfall of things that are definitely I We will I'll tell you what we will get to that third thing
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And now it is time to talk to our very first guest of the evening who is a co-worker and is going to explain the craziness that's been happening this week.
Civic Media meteorologist Mace Michaels is here this evening.
Good evening, Mace.
How are you today?
I
am good.
I hope I can explain this to you.
I'll
best.
Well, the thing is like so, you know as everyone knows who's listening we had a huge snowstorm specifically in northern Wisconsin area down in Kenosha where I live we got just a harrowing three inches of snow.
Oh my goodness, but And I think a lot of people are like, oh my gosh, why this why is this happening?
But we have to remind ourselves Mace it's March.
It's still winter and this is Wisconsin
We followed such a warm period.
I think that's why it was like hello back to winter again.
It just felt odd.
Same thing.
I'm in the Minneapolis area and we have been so we have no snow in my backyard.
And then you know, here we go to this obviously not the 30 inches pizza up north but this has just been quite a storm for forecasting and just to be out with it slowed down so many folks and cause so many problems obviously.
Oh, it was
Sorry, I was off a couple inches.
The zone of the heaviest snow started in southern Minnesota, and that was roughly 20.
And then went up right through to just north of Durand, Osio, and that was around 22, if I remember right.
And then, like you said, was up to you was the band that got into the 25, 30 plus inch stuff.
Just a crazy amount of snow and a short amount of time went day, day and a half.
So it jumped for that day.
Yeah.
It's going to be really dumb, but I'm going to ask it anyways because I'm just, you know, me.
Uh, does this seem like possibly the last big snowstorm of the season or, you know, what, what, what are, what are your numbers looking at right now?
What are you seeing for the next, at least the next seven to 10 days?
And should we stay hunkered down?
Is a safe bet that I wouldn't have to forecast another 30 inch store.
All right.
I'll go out on a limb for that.
It also looks like the jet stream pattern is just going to shift a little more northwesterly and that tends to bode better with
quicker moving systems and less moisture slash energy.
So you get these little clipper type lows or fast moving fronts that zip through, but they don't bring a lot of problems.
So you might get a little shot of rain, a little shot of snow, depending on where you are.
And then they move through rather quick.
It also looks like we're going to warm up.
That's, you know, part two of this.
does this mean any?
Oh, I'm sorry, Mace.
No, go ahead.
We're just filling it.
We're going to warm up substantially, which it's going to get sloppy and we're going to melt the snow.
You know, in a lot of areas, at least through southern Minnesota and parts of western Wisconsin, I know it's kind of been on a drier side for a chunk of the winter.
So this actually probably helps topsoil, talking with farming folks in western Wisconsin and also in Iowa.
It's actually good.
This is the right amount of time, you know, right time.
Get that in the ground now before planting season.
So a good on that side.
You know, the overall trend can shift so much as you pull it further into the spring months that what's going on now doesn't always relate to what may go on in mid-late April.
So it's probably not a good bet for me to say that, but at least now through the beginning of April, our pattern is going to shift more into that Northwest flow.
So that means faster systems, but we don't have a lot of cold air with any of them.
And any cold air that sticks around will be
From years prior, we've seen
Winters with very little snow to the point where you know politicians had to set up funds for businesses that didn't do well because of the lack of snow How does this this winter so far?
I mean we're almost towards the end of it.
How does this winter?
Compared to other ones in the past like five years or so has it been a bigger snowfall fall as I mean I remember I mean seeing the snowfall in November and December of last year I was actually shocked But I mean we've had a really in my mind a very snowy winter.
Is that what you're seeing as well?
You know, it really depends on where you are.
It started that way.
And then I think, you know, especially for us, for my side, over here in eastern Minnesota, western Wisconsin, we've had a couple of
decent snow storms and shots of cold air, but we were running behind on precipitation.
Now, yes, over your way, there's definitely been more.
So it's, you know, the typical Midwest type situation where some areas really get a lot and then others don't.
I feel like the lake effect season was really going there for a while for like folks in northern Wisconsin and the UP and then it kind of backed down a little bit and now it's sparked up the storm a touch.
But it really didn't seem like anybody was excessive.
We weren't into the huge amounts of snow that lasted for persistent amounts of time.
He covers weather for civic media.
He is also a proud employee of Severe Studios.
He does all the work and predicts the future, basically, so that we don't have to.
Tough job.
Mace, I wanted to ask you, when I live in Marinette, Greg is only like...
You know 180 miles south of me.
There are days.
It's 30 degrees warmer in Milwaukee than it is here.
Does that seem fair?
No, it doesn't seem fair.
surprising to me either.
They're a younger team.
So this will be quite a year I have a feeling.
I have to be good, though.
I'm a twins employee, so I'm
a
fan all the time.
I well busy as a question mark.
I just work with a lot of places So I juggle a lot of things at once and other times.
I'm staring at the wall.
So it's feasting family
Oh Yes, yes,
my friend who works over at the hip-hop station here in town Mace you have hustle.
like, yes, okay
Thank you.
That's what you're doing right now.
A question I wanted to ask for you with regard to the, you know, you mentioned it just a few moments ago is that it's going to get a lot warmer in the later week.
I know down here where I live, we're going to be seeing temperatures as high as 60 degrees on the weekend.
And luckily for us,
it's not fair.
this is not fair.
Someone's on, someone's on team Pete.
It's great.
Now for us in in Kenosha, it's not that bad because we didn't get a very large snowfall, but for up there where Pete lives We're gonna see flooding then because if that weather is getting so warm that that snow is gonna melt it will will we have to look out for the flooding?
You know, there probably will be some areas that see some flooding.
It's just going to be kind of a question mark on how quickly it melts.
I mean, if Pete is able to get up there in a 50 to 60, which probably won't happen right away, that would be a bigger problem.
So hopefully we'll hope for a slower, more gradual melt, but that would be my concern.
Plus, if we got another system later on, maybe beyond the two week period, which doesn't seem to show up yet, but you know, if things buckled just a little in the jet stream, that could change.
And I'm looking at the longer pattern into April here real quick on one of the models.
And we just kind of stay active, but we get back into at times a little more southwesterly flow.
So that can bring up better chances for rain by the time we're into April.
So expect a fairly active spring it looks like right now, at least from what the models are saying.
I did look at my opening day forecast and that's not good to do as a meteorologist two, two weeks out and it's a quiet day right now.
I hope it stays that way because I am working the opener.
So
too.
Anytime.
Anytime.
All
Take it easy, guys.
I mean, okay, if you chase storms or you know somebody who chases storms, that's, I think that's very much a very exciting conversation.
But there does come a point in your life, and I've been there too, where I'm sitting here going, oh man, the winter hasn't been very snowy this year.
In the back of my head, I'm going, dude, you used to like own 22 guitars and play in a band, all right?
What's wrong with you?
Why are you talking about the snow right now with a stranger at Farm & Fleet?
Because that's what you do.
That's good.
When it's
I've tried to find the story right now.
I don't know where it went to.
It was on my list here.
Oh, there it is.
There it is.
Okay.
Uh, so there was a show on TV called Baywatch.
Alexandra Paul was one of the stars of that show and she was arrested in Wisconsin, uh, uh, re arrested in Wisconsin Beagle Farm break it break in.
Yeah.
Uh, she is a, an animal activist and she was, uh, trying to break in at a Wisconsin Beagle breeding facility.
Two days ago, she is 62 years old, Joan by over 52 protesters and illegally entering a Ridgeline farms in Blue Mounds, not Blue Mound like in Brookfield.
Blue Mounds about 30 miles outside of Madison.
The activists took 23 dogs to an undisclosed location, according to both the farm and activists.
Way to stay active after the show gets canceled.
I mean, look, I
And if I had the wherewithal, I think I would do, I love my dog so much.
I don't want anything to happen to any beautiful little puppers.
And I don't know, I don't endorse crime everybody.
I thought you'd say that.
But Alexandra Paul,
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I saw this article, I thought this was great.
Madison, Wisconsin has always been one of my favorite towns.
Even when I was doing a stand-up in the 90s, Greg, in Chicago, and I could not wait to work Milwaukee and Madison, both great comedy towns.
So I've always had a soft spot in my heart for it.
My brother went to school there.
I host a show.
I go down once a month for it.
It's just a great, really, it's a town with an energy that is very positive.
And Madison has become one of 16 communities in the running this year for the national strongest town contest.
It's a little vague, but they're with Chicago, Sheboygan.
What?
West Alice.
Yeah, it's not a bigger little city thing.
They're also seeking recognitions for efforts to improve urban life.
It's an active group that tries to make city living better for people in the community.
And how about that?
I mean, everywhere I go, I sometimes feel like cities are against you with what they charge for parking or tickets or whatever.
But Madison has got this great bus line now and these heated, it just seems like a town that loves its residents and takes
Yeah.
When you want to build a strong community, whether you're talking about a village, a town, a city, a state, a country, a world, whatever you want to, when you want to build up a good community, you have to invest in the people.
You have to make, you have to want to give them a reason to live there.
And you want to make them proud.
You want to build a morale.
And that is so very important when you talk about quality of life.
I mean, that is the number one thing when people look at there, when they're going to move is quality of life.
What are the schools like?
What's the government?
Like you know all those things make a difference and cities like Madison
cities like Chicago, I'm gonna say Sheboygan as well.
If you're on that list, understand that we're trying to make a good place for our citizens.
We're trying to make it attractive to visit, possibly live here.
And I, you know, that doesn't surprise me.
I love Madison.
I've spent so much time there.
And it's because of Madison that I met my wife, essentially.
So I think Madison and also comedy as well.
One of the greatest comedy clubs in the country is there, which is the comedy is comedy on state.
The aim of Strong Towns, it says, is to exactly make cities more livable, reducing sprawl, which results in higher costs for public infrastructure.
I think it's a great group.
I'm really fascinated to do more research on this group because the winner will get a documentary made about their city.
And it will be this inspiring, uh, and it's a non-for-profit group, Strong Towns.
Uh, kind of a cool thing.
I read that in the cap times and, uh, I wanted to share it.
I love that.
I would love to see more Wisconsin towns on there.
Uh, I think it's funny you, you, um, let's see.
Yes.
You said, you said Sheboygan and I was driving up from Chicago back home the other day and I saw a billboard that said, come to Sheboygan, Malibu of the Midwest.
That is their.
That is what they call themselves.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Not Sheboygan Falls.
Trash.
I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding.
Sheboygan Falls.
I love you.
I love you.
I've done comedy there.
It's great.
It's great.
It's great.
I don't want to get in a fight with anybody.
I don't know Sheboygan Falls.
It's right next door.
It's fine.
It's cool.
It's like Manitowish and Manitowish Waters.
They're next to each other and there's an unspoken dislike.
I don't understand it, but it's their problem, not mine.
Hey, we're gonna read some of your texts when we come back after the news.
Rob Thomas will be here at 6.20.
Can't wait to talk to Rob.
We'll talk to him about what's going on in Madison.
That's the city he lives in where he reviews movies from.
And he is also the city cast at Madison Newsletter Editor.
That's a great follow if you want to stay kind of in touch with really cool stuff to do in Madison.
They do a great job.
We'll ask Rob about the Oscars, about the Wisconsin Film Festival, all kinds of fun stuff coming up.
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