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Film Critic Rob Thomas with his spicy Oscar takes (Hour 2)
Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Tue Mar 17, 2026
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Rob Thomas will be here Madison film critic and city cast Madison newsletter editor love talking to Rob We're gonna talk about the Wisconsin Film Festival a little bit and a cool article He wrote on city cast and we'll jump into some Oscar talk after the news.
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Bothers me greatly.
His name wasn't Patrick.
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Forget the Saint.
Just celebrate being Irish.
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I'm not going to lie there, Pete Schwabba.
So here's the deal, everybody.
I was going to wait until now to bring this up.
So every day, we have a chat on the show, and we talk about what we should talk about.
And one of the things we always talk about in the morning, usually earlier in the morning, is what is the question of the day?
And Pete, do you want to tell the people what your original version of this question was?
Yeah,
yeah.
But if someone said, I don't like the Irish, for some other reason, I might not even just be like, all right, whatever, you're generalizing.
It's kind of how I roll.
But we went in a different way.
I think that's what radio co-hosts do.
They treat each other fairly.
That's
It's very fair.
It's very, it's very fair.
It's very, very fair.
Tyler in Columbia County listening on WMDX says riding Metro in Chicago is an experience for St.
Patrick's Day.
A good one time experience for me.
Tyler, I did the same thing.
I didn't ride the Metro, but one night I found myself with no show.
Wife was out of town.
I thought to myself, I'll go see a comedy show in Chicago on St.
Patrick's Day because I thought they celebrated the same way they do in Milwaukee, which is.
over like three weekends.
There's a parade.
There is like the celebration, the week of, and then there is a, like a city, like city-wide bar hop.
So
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too.
Okay,
We all go out here for St.
Patrick's Day.
We changed we changed the town name to New Dublin and have a parade this Saturday after
It's just a huge drinking fest, and I'm with you on The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy being a great movie, Greg.
Thank you very much, Peter.
And if you see my uncle Charlie Bach and New London, tell him his nephew says hi.
Brett in brown deer listening on WAUK says, my least favorite thing about St.
Patrick's Day was throwing up green beer, did that once in 1981.
Never drank it again.
Makes sense.
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Mike on the.
Social media says I hate corned beef and cabbage.
I've had I've only had it once and that was too too many times
I like that everyone is Irish for a day and will immerse themselves in it I think if we did that for other ethnic type celebrations We would be a better understanding of we would have a better understanding of cultures and we'd be less apt to have prejudice I completely agree Mike.
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just people here I don't know if he's Irish or not We'll get to the bottom of this but he joins us here periodically to talk about movies and what's happening in our state's capital because he is the city cast of Madison newsletter editor and a phenomenal film critic
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Hey, buddy.
Yeah.
And I passed on it.
It was in theaters for like five minutes initially, even though I like David Kep, who people know wrote Jurassic Park.
He wrote Black Bag last year.
You might be the most.
famous prolific screenwriter in Hollywood were the first mission impossible.
He's written the new Disclosure Day, the new Spielberg that's coming this summer.
But he also makes these little movies kind of in between.
And this one, Cold Storage, is based on his first novel.
And it's like, like I described, I talked to him.
He's a great guy.
And I was really honored he would talk to me for my little sub-stack.
It's just a gnarly like 80s type horror comedy, like Tremors, Return of the Living Dead.
It's like funny, it's scary, it's really gross, but in like a very funny way, not like an off-putting way.
It's about this like alien virus or fungus that gets into this, like a U-Store it.
facility and starts wreaking havoc and Joe Curie is really good in it.
Liam Neeson, who's on kind of a roll.
I mean, he's usually in a movie once every other week, but he's pretty funny is the retired bioterror expert who gets called in.
So it just started on VOD and it's only 90 minutes.
I think it's something people would really like.
No, I mean, it's not.
But to me, Liam Neeson, and tell me if I'm wrong, is this generation's Charles Bronson?
I think that, like...
He's got his niche, but also he still does these types of films that are fun.
The nigga gun.
There was the one he did.
I can't remember the name of it right now.
I think it's called saints and sinners.
It takes place in Ireland.
And lots of green goo flying everywhere.
Yeah.
And I totally agree.
And I think for the same reason, you see Lee and me and she go, well, I know what that is and it's going to be on, you know, TNT in two months or something like that.
So, yeah, I think people should check it out.
You said you passed on it.
Does that mean you...
You didn't, but then it kind of sounded like you liked it.
Are you?
Well, it was just in, you know, some of the movies now, they show up Friday in the theaters.
If you don't see it, it's gone the next Friday.
Yeah.
And you know, horror is not usually my thing.
And I think, again, like Greg said, you know, Liam Neeson, it's like that's not a must watch usually.
But yeah, it's a sleeper, as they say.
And it's got like a really cool lineup.
Like, so I did not know that the guy who wrote John Wick is from Madison, Derek Holstead.
And oh, yeah.
And he has a
a movie called Normal, which looks like Hot Fuzz set in a small Minnesota town, which is like a great premise where Bob Odenkirk is like the new sheriff.
Have you seen the trailer for this one?
Yes.
I'm excited to see it.
I haven't seen it, but he's going to be at the festival.
It's like a Saturday night, late night screening.
That seems really good.
What else is there?
There's like a.
like Nosferatu, the original, not the one from a couple years ago with like
And that just got moved to the Barrymore from like the little theater.
So that's gonna have a great sound.
That's gonna be really good.
We just talked about Black Bag, the new Steven Soderbergh movie, the Christopher's with Ian McKellen is gonna premiere there.
I mean, a lot of, some of these will come back around to the theaters, but a lot of them, this is really your only chance to see him on the big screen.
And like the festival is so fun.
because it's like you go see cold storage and it's like there's two people in the theater.
It's kind of it's kind of a drag sometimes.
But like, you know, you're going to see like it with like the best possible audience.
And then it's also really cool when the filmmaker is there and can can talk about it afterwards.
We talked to Susan Kearns from the Milwaukee Film Festival.
When there's these film festivals all over the world at fancy ball gowns, high society, it's high stakes, but Wisconsin Film Festivals are just like...
Fun there's fun time.
There's fun things happening.
You have a good time I feel like folks who come from LA to premiere their movies are probably in for a good time when they come to these film festivals
Well, they come back, you know with their films, which is a good sign that they're having a good time Yeah, there's no high-pressure million-dollar deals at the Wisconsin Film Festival They might you know, you might sell your film for a case of spotted cow or something You can do worse you could do worse.
All right, we will be right back.
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The Oscars, I
I was actually very pleasantly surprised when I called B. Jordan one for best actor.
I did think Timothy Shelby was going to hold on to it despite all the ballet opera stuff and people just in general kind of getting sick of him, I think.
Um, I thought that was a fantastic moment.
He was so genuine, you know, from the moment they said his name and, and his speech and, and, uh, honestly, he deserves it.
I mean, he was playing two, two incredible performances and sinners.
And, um, that was really nice.
I had friends telling me, Oh, he's going to win.
I was like, I don't think so, but I was very, very happy to see that.
I love him.
I love him.
But like the character, Marge Supreme is annoying.
And you know, and I think he was the way he is.
He promoted it, the movie.
He was kind of brought out his most annoying side in some way.
And then I think kind of realized, oh, wait, this is maybe actually hurting my chances of winning an Oscar.
He's also 30.
Like he's got a lot of career in front of him.
And so.
Yeah.
So I, I think people were fine with saying, I mean, looking at Michael B. Jordan, who's actually, you know, been in acting since what?
The wire over 20
We talked about this with Matt Miller last week and I felt like I Think one of you know the whole bell because because Matt Miller actually put into context the fact that he didn't really say ballet and opera are terrible He he said out loud what Timothy Chalamet was saying with regard to his concern for film and I get that I don't know if that was so much the problem is the fact that His comments and actions at other awards ceremonies this need to want to win these and almost feel like I have to do this if I don't do this I want this is like Yes
I know you want to win this.
It's fine.
Yes, be driven.
That's good.
But sometimes you got to keep those thoughts inside.
It doesn't make you look good when you make comments about things, especially awards.
You're going to make the overlords mad, and they're not going to give you what you want until you're like 50, and they finally throw it at you because they're like, it's his turn.
Yeah, I think he approached it almost like an athlete would, like that kind of drive.
And that's admirable.
But also, I think in the arts, maybe it doesn't play quite as well or something like that.
But yeah.
And I think also that's a big part of it is like, when you're that young, you think, oh, we'll give it to him in 20 years when he does, you know, Martin Supreme 3 or something
I mean, I know that apparently the safty, well, they're not together.
The safty directors, whether it's Josh or Benny, whomever you're talking about at the moment, they can do no wrong in the world.
And their movies are good.
And A24 is A24.
But when I watched that trailer, because I'd heard people talking about it, and I didn't see the trailer until like a week and a half ago.
I got done with it and I turned to my wife and I said, did I just watch an SNL sketch?
Cause that's what this feels like.
This feels like an SNL sketch.
It doesn't feel like a real movie.
It looks like something they wrote cause it looks 10 kinds of ridiculous.
And
You know it's interesting Rob we've talked before about sinners versus one battle after another and I almost feel like I wish they were out in separate years because I thought I enjoyed I told you this I've enjoyed one battle after another a little bit more than sinners but I thought sinners was a masterpiece on a few levels and I just watched both of those films in the last two days
Is that fair to say like sinners could have won a different year but it was just up against another masterpiece by Paul Thomas Anderson who also hadn't won an Oscar before the other night?
I mean, I think that's true.
They were my one-two best year list as well.
Sinners just behind one battle.
And yeah, in a weaker year for sure sinners would have won it.
It seemed like there are a lot of really good films and you know the other thing
is I think getting back to the way the reasons people have I think people just thought it was Paul Thomas Anderson's time like he like he's never won an Oscar even for writing and he's made so many good movies over really 30 years I think or almost 30 years his first one hard eight so you know he's in his mid 50s and he's obviously really vital but like this was the movie that everyone was like okay we're gonna finally honor him and um that's tough to beat especially when Ryan Coogler
is younger and is also made a lot of great movies, but obviously has more road ahead of him to make a lot more and can pretty much do whatever he wants now.
So
I mean, that's the thing too, is I thought is like between him and his wife now, like he has made so much money for these.
and he's got so much critical acclaim, not just popular acclaim like he and his wife as a production team because they produce together.
I mean, they can go to the way of building their own studio at one point.
I just feel like I just see, I see no end in sight with their creativity, but also their business acumen is going to be very, very much a part of their journey.
But, and something that you've taught, you talked about as well as other people when we talk about film is this notion of it's their time.
it's you know, they haven't won it like and we've seen examples throughout the years and one I bring up is now is like, you know Delroy Lindo has been acting for like 50 years
around for a long time and the fact that you know Sean Penn got the best his third Academy Award I mean to me like that notion of like well, it's his time It's like well, and I'm not asking I'm not like saying tell me the answer but like it was
it was Paul Thomas Anderson's time, but it wasn't Delroy's time.
It wasn't, you know, it was Michael B. Jordan has been acting for a long time, but he's 39.
Timothy Chalamet is 30.
Like it just feels like every way to explain why Oscars are given out, there's always someone at that same ceremony.
We're like, but what about that person?
Yeah, like, why didn't they get it then?
Or why did?
They get it, you know, it's a very weird system.
It's hard to wrap your brain around.
Yeah, I mean, because it's people voting and people have a lot of different, you know, ideas and motives going in, you know, and I, yeah, that was honestly, Sean Penn winning was a real surprise to me.
His third one.
I mean, I think he's great in one battle, but like that whole category was really stacked with Delroy Lindo still in Skarsgard.
I thought Jacob Elordi was amazing in.
in Frankenstein.
Oh, Bonita Dottoro was also great in one battle.
Yeah, he was hanging with Zelensky.
And it's interesting because I think...
Sean Penn deserved it.
He took a lot big swings with that.
That could have come across as caricature-ish.
He crushed it.
And the fact that he's in the same category with Benicio del Toro, they're both supporting actors, but Sean Penn stole that movie, so to speak, from a supporting actor standpoint.
Like, I just thought he was, and Delroy Lindo is great in a lot of stuff.
I didn't think his performance compared to Sean Penn's though, in Senors.
He was great, but Sean Penn just...
put himself out there.
It worked.
I thought he was great.
Just so, so good.
I mean, you said you said it too.
Like, you know, it was.
And I apologize to Pete and Tom for repeating what I said last week but or No yesterday because today is Tuesday yesterday's Monday.
My goodness times of construct is The fact that like last year, you know Conan's first year happened Everyone was very excited the LA fires were going on people need everyone not just the people at home But like celebrities who lost their homes everyone needed a time to come together and that's what I felt like that moment was and so it was like this knockout
performance all throughout the evening.
But last night, it felt like we were back to the old days of here is a world-class comedian doing his best to entertain the people in the room and the people watching.
And you have a room full of stuffy suits and actors who don't know how to laugh at themselves.
And therefore, the jokes did not hit as well as they should have because there were phenomenal jokes in there.
And you could just hear that.
Right.
Yeah.
No, I agree with that.
I think it was, you know, I think that's a tough.
That's a tough room, I think, for a comedian to, as you say, to be trying to, you know, make the people in the room laugh because that's, you know, it sounds better.
And then also trying to keep people on the home, people at home entertained so you're not too inside with your jokes.
I thought he was, I thought he was funny.
I liked sort of the running gag about how old the Oscars are and the changes with like the YouTube, the bit with the YouTube ads with Jane Lynch and erupting and stuff.
And yeah.
Yeah, so I thought that one worked.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I thought it was good.
I mean, I mean, I was just more struck by like how the most famous people in the world can't seem to read a teleprompter and talk like like the Sean or the Chris Evans, Robert Downey Jr.
thing
And like those were supposed to be excited for the new Avengers movie and they can't even like they, you know, they can't even bring like 10% of their charisma to the stage for that.
Or I was just really
surprised by that.
I mean, they might have been drunk, too.
I hope so.
Yeah.
It's a party.
I mean, come on.
Yeah.
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Now it's time, Pete, to get to this new thing we're doing here.
Yeah, it's called the nightcap.
There it is.
Tom, do
Oh, I thought we did.
Okay, my apologies.
That's not me.
I thought we had some sort of suit to come.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
All right.
Well, the nightcap is where we just wrap up the evening show and just kind of, I would say pat ourselves on the back because we live in a world where, you know, not everyone's just walking around saying, Hey, good job, buddy.
This is where we say, Hey, good job, buddy.
It was really fun talking to Rob and Mace and getting a weather update, talking some movies and Oscars and upcoming events in Madison, reading your texts.
We've got a few texts here left.
We got Cam who says, a nightcap is also using marijuana right before bed to conclude the night.
Okay, good noted.
There
I don't I'm not huge on awards.
Like I think it's a big like whatever, you know, fine, you guys.
But
It's not, I don't think it's just famous people.
Pete, you know that industry, it's a lot of people behind the scenes who also vote, they're not famous, they're not rich.
They're just people who work in an industry they love and it's their chance to voice their opinion.
I understand why people criticize award shows or the Oscars because that is the perception, but you're right Greg, it's people behind the scenes, caterers, set designers, everybody.
The amount of work and
Labor put into effect just from the Oscars broadcast alone is incredible and my feeling I used to feel like I didn't like award shows either But I feel like anything in this day and age that celebrates the arts and in my case particularly movies because I love movies I am all for that's why when Timothy Chalamet even if he was misinterpreted Don't rip another art form.
These are beautiful things that have been around we need them desperately So I'm all for award shows and selling anybody who puts themselves out there creatively
First for call me by my name, then a complete unknown.
And then this year for Marty Supreme.
He will get an Academy Award someday.
He will.
And it might not be when he wants it.
It might only be one as an entire career.
But guess what?
Winning one Oscar, you're still way up on like billions of people.
My goodness.
All right.
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Happy St.
Patrick's Day, everybody.
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