Film Critic Rob Thomas with his spicy Oscar takes (Hour 2)

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Film Critic Rob Thomas with his spicy Oscar takes (Hour 2)

Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Tue Mar 17, 2026

Kathryn Lake

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Pete Schwaba

All right.

Welcome back, folks.

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Yeah.

Pete Schwaba

Enjoyed it.

I

Pete Schwaba

enjoyed it too.

Crazy.

Or was that just a downright?

That's more, more fun than you should have on a Tuesday, even if you're having tacos.

Even if.

Dumb.

I just can't wait man my mouth is watering.

I'm so excited

Pete Schwaba

Hey, we've got another great hour lined up here for

you

Pete Schwaba

Rob Thomas will be here Madison film critic and city cast Madison newsletter editor love talking to Rob We're gonna talk about the Wisconsin Film Festival a little bit and a cool article He wrote on city cast and we'll jump into some Oscar talk after the news.

I love hearing Rob's

analysis of events like that because he just weighs in and it's always great and you can check out his movie reviews at his substack, not that Rob Thomas.

So we've got that and yeah, lots to get to, Greg.

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I didn't, I mean, I don't have tacos.

Dom didn't bring any tacos for anybody's.

Those are all like, those are all like Castle Dommington apparently, but it's fine.

It's actually fine.

It's fine.

I'm fine.

Pete Schwaba

So you're the chef in your house.

Dom, is that how that works?

Yes.

You live with your girlfriend, right?

I don't, I don't.

I live with a roommate right now.

But it's still true.

I'm still the chef and he should, he needs to start making some stuff.

You know, I haven't really

Greg Bach

outright told him

that.

Greg Bach

Does he eat when you make food or is it like you're making your dinner Dude has to make his own dinner.

How does that work out?

It's normally like I usually like hey, I'm making for example tacos today, you know, I'm making tacos You want some that's kind of how it goes and it goes it's like that pretty much five of the seven days of the week Wow, yeah, so hey roommate, you know do better do better

Pete Schwaba

does he pitch in more rent because of that?

No, he does not.

But he does the dishes more, so, you know, he takes the good with the bads.

Greg Bach

I don't know if I like this.

I feel like every once in a while you throw in somebody like, hey, here's some, here's some dinner money.

Like, there you go.

Tacos.

Pete Schwaba

It's not like you're giving them a hot pocket.

I mean, there's take some effort to get the tacos going.

Greg Bach

Even hot pockets are expensive nowadays.

They're

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expensive nowadays.

Greg Bach

There you

Pete Schwaba

go.

Hey, what do you say we remind people of the question of the day?

Greg Bach

I think I need to be reminded as well, because I forgot I'm just getting attention.

No.

Let's talk about the question.

Okay, question.

Question.

Question.

Question.

Question.

Okay, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Question.

Question.

Questions.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, what is your favorite and least or least favorite thing about St.

Patrick's Day?

Happy

St.

Pete Schwaba

Patrick's Day again, by the way, folks.

Hope you're having

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a great

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one.

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Greg Bach

We'll start right with us.

A live stream comments.

Stacey sued, uh, listening on the live stream says favorites are corned beef.

St.

Patty's day parade with bagpipes.

Also turning the river green in Chicago.

Pete Schwaba

Was that my stomach again?

Greg Bach

No, it was your stomach again.

Thank you very much.

Stacey for getting in touch with us.

We really appreciate you.

Uh, let's see here.

Uh, Dave on the live stream says worst thing.

COVID started on March 17th.

Oh, wow.

That's right about that.

Huh, what a reminder.

That was a bad one.

Yeah, that was a bad one.

On the on the social media, Amanda, our, our favorite Amanda, the social media queen goddess, the one who procures all of this stuff for us, she says.

Bothers me greatly.

His name wasn't Patrick.

He wasn't Irish and wore blue, not green.

Forget the Saint.

Just celebrate being Irish.

There you go.

Pete Schwaba

Wow, she's really sticking to the Irish there, I think.

Greg Bach

Well, you kind of wanted to do the same thing.

I'm not going to lie there, Pete Schwabba.

So here's the deal, everybody.

I was going to wait until now to bring this up.

So every day, we have a chat on the show, and we talk about what we should talk about.

And one of the things we always talk about in the morning, usually earlier in the morning, is what is the question of the day?

And Pete, do you want to tell the people what your original version of this question was?

Yeah,

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this is, I'm not proud of this, um, but I will share this because I feel like I had, you know, licensed to say this because I am more than half Irish

Greg Bach

somewhere

Pete Schwaba

between 50 and 70%.

So I said, what was your favorite and least favorite thing about the Irish?

Greg Bach

And I said,

yeah.

Greg Bach

And I said, probably not a good idea to just throw that out there to allow people to say.

possibly really horrible things about Irish people, also while trying to probably be funny too.

So.

Pete Schwaba

Well, but I did ask for people's opinions on that.

I was, I was being sensitive and I thought, you know, I would never say that about like another ethnicity that I didn't, wasn't part of.

Like I felt like I could kind of criticize the Irish

Greg Bach

as well.

But

Pete Schwaba

again,

Greg Bach

you can criticize the Irish, but how do you feel if someone was just like, I don't like the Irish cause they smell and they invaded America?

Pete Schwaba

You wouldn't like that, would

Greg Bach

you?

Someone could have said that.

Pete Schwaba

If they said that, I would probably take issue.

But if someone said, I don't like the Irish, for some other reason, I might not even just be like, all right, whatever, you're generalizing.

It's kind of how I roll.

But we went in a different way.

I think that's what radio co-hosts do.

They treat each other fairly.

That's

Greg Bach

true.

It's very fair.

It's very, it's very fair.

It's very, very fair.

Tyler in Columbia County listening on WMDX says riding Metro in Chicago is an experience for St.

Patrick's Day.

A good one time experience for me.

Tyler, I did the same thing.

I didn't ride the Metro, but one night I found myself with no show.

Wife was out of town.

I thought to myself, I'll go see a comedy show in Chicago on St.

Patrick's Day because I thought they celebrated the same way they do in Milwaukee, which is.

over like three weekends.

There's a parade.

There is like the celebration, the week of, and then there is a, like a city, like city-wide bar hop.

So

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I was like, all right, cool.

Greg Bach

I went, I, I pandemonium does not.

Properly describe what I tried to drive through in Chicago on March the 17th 2018 it was a full-blown nightmare I was in I was so mad and then the show got cancelled because comics were stuck in traffic and or drunk

Pete Schwaba

See I loved Chicago St.

Patrick's Day when I was like in college in my 20s after that.

No, thanks.

I'll just sit home and watch you know

The depotted?

The heroes of Inner Shin or whatever it is.

Oh, here we got a text from Cam who says, Dom, he's giving you a taco recipe, Dom.

Oh, thanks, Cam.

Pete Schwaba

If you need any recipes, let me know.

My partner and I cook a lot too.

Hundreds of different dishes.

That's a good one.

Hundreds, that's a lot

too.

Okay,

Pete Schwaba

yeah.

We've got, this is from, oh my margins are all messed up here, sorry.

Well, you're looking out

Greg Bach

Jack from Merrimack row back into us.

He called and the call dropped He wanted to say his buddy's st.

Patrick's day gig He used to sing an absolute hilarious ballad about seven old ladies stuck in the lavatory another song for you to look up so Okay, thank you very much Jack.

We really appreciate

Pete Schwaba

that awesome Jack This is from the 608 someday DJ L. I think that's Dom Lee

We'll recall his time with uncles Pete and Greg.

Hopefully is an important and valuable experience.

And then says corn, beef and cabbage.

It's his favorite thing about

Greg Bach

that.

So that's me and Peter pizza, corn, beef, I'm cabbage.

I ain't doing that.

Yeah.

That's great.

Yeah.

Matt, no Claire listening in.

He says the Chicago River, Redwood Forest, Grand Canyon, Green River, must see in person and in that order.

So I guess that you.

Okay.

I've seen two of those things.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, really?

Okay.

Some great comments so far.

I'm having issues with my text line here.

So I'm switching through these

Greg Bach

Pete and New London listening on W ISS said I live in New London and we all go out here.

We all go out here for St.

Patrick's Day.

We changed we changed the town name to New Dublin and have a parade this Saturday after

It's just a huge drinking fest, and I'm with you on The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy being a great movie, Greg.

Thank you very much, Peter.

And if you see my uncle Charlie Bach and New London, tell him his nephew says hi.

Pete Schwaba

We've both got family in New London, Greg.

My wife's family lives there, and they're part of this fantastic St.

Patrick's Day parade they have there.

They really do St.

Patrick's correctly.

I've been there a couple times, and it's great fun in New London on St.

Patrick's Day.

Greg Bach

Yeah.

Brett in brown deer listening on WAUK says, my least favorite thing about St.

Patrick's Day was throwing up green beer, did that once in 1981.

Never drank it again.

Makes sense.

Let's see here.

Mike on the.

Social media says I hate corned beef and cabbage.

I've had I've only had it once and that was too too many times

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What what I like?

Greg Bach

I like that everyone is Irish for a day and will immerse themselves in it I think if we did that for other ethnic type celebrations We would be a better understanding of we would have a better understanding of cultures and we'd be less apt to have prejudice I completely agree Mike.

I love that take that yes more of that

Pete Schwaba

I love it.

That's a great one, too.

And then, oh, Dom, you texted in.

You must have had something to say to us that was related to the question of the night.

No,

Greg Bach

he was telling us to turn off our

Pete Schwaba

computers.

I know.

I was just having

Greg Bach

fun a little

Pete Schwaba

bit.

Oh, I see.

Oh, I see.

You had a little joke that was all for Pete.

All

Greg Bach

for Pete.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, no, go by all means.

Step on the punchline.

When I, no, there's we have so many keywords on the text line, which is so fantastic.

So if I missed a text tonight, or we missed a text tonight, we are sorry, but don't let that stop you from texting in.

Folks, you still have plenty of time.

What is your least or most favorite thing about St.

Patrick's Day?

Greg Bach

Tim on the social media says, drunks are annoying.

All right.

And Dan says, my favorite drinking copious amounts of tasty green beer, my least favorite drinking copious amounts of tasty green beer, and ending up passed out in, and semi-nude in my grandma's heated garage.

My life sucks, LOL.

Pete Schwaba

Okay.

That is Dan Davies who always says his life sucks.

And frankly, based on that text, it sounds like it's pretty fun, except for the grandma who probably.

I

Greg Bach

mean, I feel like if you're putting yourself out there like that, that's not the first or last time your grandmother has discovered you in such a position, so.

Pete Schwaba

Correct.

Stu in the 608 says, assuming I'm Irish because I have red hair and my last name starts with MC.

He doesn't know if he's Irish.

Greg Bach

Well, you are today, my friend.

You

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are today.

And you probably are every day.

If you've got the MC, I don't want to generalize, you know, but.

Greg Bach

If you're MAC, I believe you're Scottish.

Pete Schwaba

That's right.

That's true.

Roger, in Steven's point, says my oldest daughter was born 32 years ago tonight.

Well, thank you, Roger.

Happy

Pete Schwaba

birthday.

Yeah, happy Roger's daughter's birthday.

That's not funny.

The best thing about St.

Patrick's Day for Roger, no question.

Brett, did you read this one, Greg?

Brett from

Greg Bach

Eau

Pete Schwaba

Claire.

Yes, I did.

OK.

Pete Schwaba

All right.

I think we're caught up on text.

That's fantastic.

Greg Bach

We're caught up.

We are caught up.

And don't keep sending those texts and those live stream comments.

Let us know what your favorite or least favorite thing about St.

Patrick's Day is.

We're going to be coming back with Rob Thomas here on Nightlight with Pete Schwabba and Greg Bach here on the Civic Media Network.

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started.

And I love our next guest not in the big

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way, but

Pete Schwaba

he's a great dude.

I love him as much as I can love another man who That's

Greg Bach

great.

He's

Pete Schwaba

a friend of mine, right?

That's wonderful.

Greg Bach

We're

Pete Schwaba

just people here I don't know if he's Irish or not We'll get to the bottom of this but he joins us here periodically to talk about movies and what's happening in our state's capital because he is the city cast of Madison newsletter editor and a phenomenal film critic

who reviews movies at his sub-stack, Not That Rob Thomas.

So check those out too.

He joins us now over the stream from Madison, our pal, Rob Thomas.

Hey, buddy.

Hey, happy State Paddy's Day, guy.

I mean, if you're watching, I mean, the greenest room I could possibly find.

I appreciate that.

Greg Bach

Is that where you make all the guests wait until you bring them on to the lecture party?

It's to my other bedroom, yeah.

Pete Schwaba

It's good to have you, buddy.

You wrote a couple of things I wanted to ask you about the new the Joe Kerry film.

Well, you talked to David Kep who wrote that film.

He's a UW Madison grad.

Have you seen the movie?

I

did.

Yeah.

And I passed on it.

It was in theaters for like five minutes initially, even though I like David Kep, who people know wrote Jurassic Park.

He wrote Black Bag last year.

You might be the most.

famous prolific screenwriter in Hollywood were the first mission impossible.

He's written the new Disclosure Day, the new Spielberg that's coming this summer.

But he also makes these little movies kind of in between.

And this one, Cold Storage, is based on his first novel.

And it's like, like I described, I talked to him.

He's a great guy.

And I was really honored he would talk to me for my little sub-stack.

It's just a gnarly like 80s type horror comedy, like Tremors, Return of the Living Dead.

It's like funny, it's scary, it's really gross, but in like a very funny way, not like an off-putting way.

It's about this like alien virus or fungus that gets into this, like a U-Store it.

facility and starts wreaking havoc and Joe Curie is really good in it.

Liam Neeson, who's on kind of a roll.

I mean, he's usually in a movie once every other week, but he's pretty funny is the retired bioterror expert who gets called in.

So it just started on VOD and it's only 90 minutes.

I think it's something people would really like.

Greg Bach

Yeah, my wife saw it last week and she loved it.

We watched the trailer and I was just like, at first because

Liam Neeson has a movie called Cold Pursuit, which is just taken in the snow.

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That's right,

Greg Bach

yeah.

No, I mean, it's not.

But to me, Liam Neeson, and tell me if I'm wrong, is this generation's Charles Bronson?

I think that, like...

He's got his niche, but also he still does these types of films that are fun.

The nigga gun.

There was the one he did.

I can't remember the name of it right now.

I think it's called saints and sinners.

It takes place in Ireland.

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He still

Greg Bach

has those chops and it's still great.

I like that he has range, but she loved it.

She thought it was a really good time and she said almost the same thing you did is like an 80s style of fun and bloody.

Right.

And lots of green goo flying everywhere.

Yeah.

And I totally agree.

And I think for the same reason, you see Lee and me and she go, well, I know what that is and it's going to be on, you know, TNT in two months or something like that.

So, yeah, I think people should check it out.

You said you passed on it.

Does that mean you...

You didn't, but then it kind of sounded like you liked it.

Are you?

Well, it was just in, you know, some of the movies now, they show up Friday in the theaters.

If you don't see it, it's gone the next Friday.

Yeah.

And you know, horror is not usually my thing.

And I think, again, like Greg said, you know, Liam Neeson, it's like that's not a must watch usually.

But yeah, it's a sleeper, as they say.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah.

OK.

You also wrote a piece in City Cast Madison, which everybody should read.

It's a great publication.

Thanks.

Yeah, I'm a fan about the Wisconsin Film Festival and some of the highlights you thought were coming up.

Can you share those with us?

Yeah.

I mean, it's what's the dates?

August or excuse me, August, April 9th, 16th.

Yeah.

And what wishful thinking is for, you know, the Blizzard

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here

in Madison.

And it's got like a really cool lineup.

Like, so I did not know that the guy who wrote John Wick is from Madison, Derek Holstead.

And oh, yeah.

And he has a

a movie called Normal, which looks like Hot Fuzz set in a small Minnesota town, which is like a great premise where Bob Odenkirk is like the new sheriff.

Have you seen the trailer for this one?

Yes.

I'm excited to see it.

I haven't seen it, but he's going to be at the festival.

It's like a Saturday night, late night screening.

That seems really good.

What else is there?

There's like a.

like Nosferatu, the original, not the one from a couple years ago with like

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a

live score from these like

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indie

musicians.

And that just got moved to the Barrymore from like the little theater.

So that's gonna have a great sound.

That's gonna be really good.

We just talked about Black Bag, the new Steven Soderbergh movie, the Christopher's with Ian McKellen is gonna premiere there.

I mean, a lot of, some of these will come back around to the theaters, but a lot of them, this is really your only chance to see him on the big screen.

And like the festival is so fun.

because it's like you go see cold storage and it's like there's two people in the theater.

It's kind of it's kind of a drag sometimes.

But like, you know, you're going to see like it with like the best possible audience.

And then it's also really cool when the filmmaker is there and can can talk about it afterwards.

Greg Bach

That's something that we talked about too.

We talked to Susan Kearns from the Milwaukee Film Festival.

When there's these film festivals all over the world at fancy ball gowns, high society, it's high stakes, but Wisconsin Film Festivals are just like...

Fun there's fun time.

There's fun things happening.

You have a good time I feel like folks who come from LA to premiere their movies are probably in for a good time when they come to these film festivals

Well, they come back, you know with their films, which is a good sign that they're having a good time Yeah, there's no high-pressure million-dollar deals at the Wisconsin Film Festival They might you know, you might sell your film for a case of spotted cow or something You can do worse you could do worse.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah Alright Rob Thomas is here folks when after the news we're gonna come back in

and talk about the Oscar broadcast the other night.

Very excited to have him here.

And we will do all that.

I want to see Night of the Living Dead at the Chasen, Rob,

Greg Bach

on

Pete Schwaba

Sunday night.

I'm hoping they don't schedule me doing a Q&A somewhere else, because I really want to see that.

I've never seen it

Greg Bach

before.

Oh, your life is so hard.

Pete Schwaba

That's not fair, Greg.

All right, we will be right back.

After news, sports, and weather with our guest, Madison Film Critic, Rob Thomas.

This is Pete Schwabba and Greg Bach on The Civic Millionaire.

Welcome back.

This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba and sitting across the state for me is Greg Bach.

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It's great to have you here folks on this Tuesday.

You can still get in on the fun.

What is your favorite or least favorite thing about St.

Patrick's Day?

Answer the question and we will read it on the radio.

Be part of the show.

It's Tuesday and we are celebrating that by having our friend Rob Thomas here who reviews movies.

He's a Madison based movie critic and he also

is the City Cast of Madison Newsletter Editor.

He joins us on the stream from Madison.

So Rob, let's jump in.

The Oscars, I

assume

Pete Schwaba

you

watched.

I did.

Pete Schwaba

Overall thoughts.

I thought it was good.

I mean, I, you know, I don't think it was the most entertaining one I've ever seen, but in general, I liked Conan and I liked most of the, most of the winners.

A couple of surprises.

a couple of night surprises.

Greg Bach

What was your

surprise?

I was actually very pleasantly surprised when I called B. Jordan one for best actor.

I did think Timothy Shelby was going to hold on to it despite all the ballet opera stuff and people just in general kind of getting sick of him, I think.

Um, I thought that was a fantastic moment.

He was so genuine, you know, from the moment they said his name and, and his speech and, and, uh, honestly, he deserves it.

I mean, he was playing two, two incredible performances and sinners.

And, um, that was really nice.

I had friends telling me, Oh, he's going to win.

I was like, I don't think so, but I was very, very happy to see that.

Pete Schwaba

Was that like who you would have thought Timothy Chalamet, if somebody else won, you thought it would have been him?

I, I, I'm, I don't know what it is about him, Rob, but I, I.

I don't really like him

and it's not anything you've done.

I love him.

I love him.

But like the character, Marge Supreme is annoying.

And you know, and I think he was the way he is.

He promoted it, the movie.

He was kind of brought out his most annoying side in some way.

And then I think kind of realized, oh, wait, this is maybe actually hurting my chances of winning an Oscar.

He's also 30.

Like he's got a lot of career in front of him.

And so.

Yeah.

So I, I think people were fine with saying, I mean, looking at Michael B. Jordan, who's actually, you know, been in acting since what?

The wire over 20

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years ago.

Yeah.

And then through Friday night lights and, uh, Black Panther and, you know, just, just a great career already, even though he's still fairly young.

Um, I think people felt very good about awarding him that.

Greg Bach

I think what's interesting for me personally is that like.

We talked about this with Matt Miller last week and I felt like I Think one of you know the whole bell because because Matt Miller actually put into context the fact that he didn't really say ballet and opera are terrible He he said out loud what Timothy Chalamet was saying with regard to his concern for film and I get that I don't know if that was so much the problem is the fact that His comments and actions at other awards ceremonies this need to want to win these and almost feel like I have to do this if I don't do this I want this is like Yes

I know you want to win this.

It's fine.

Yes, be driven.

That's good.

But sometimes you got to keep those thoughts inside.

It doesn't make you look good when you make comments about things, especially awards.

You're going to make the overlords mad, and they're not going to give you what you want until you're like 50, and they finally throw it at you because they're like, it's his turn.

Right, right.

Yeah, I think he approached it almost like an athlete would, like that kind of drive.

And that's admirable.

But also, I think in the arts, maybe it doesn't play quite as well or something like that.

But yeah.

And I think also that's a big part of it is like, when you're that young, you think, oh, we'll give it to him in 20 years when he does, you know, Martin Supreme 3 or something

Greg Bach

like that.

It's funny, because of all the movies he's been, because this is his second nomination, I believe, or?

He was nominated

Pete Schwaba

last year for Bob Dylan.

Greg Bach

Yeah, was there Bob Dylan?

Yeah, I

Pete Schwaba

can't remember.

But

Greg Bach

yeah.

I mean, I know that apparently the safty, well, they're not together.

The safty directors, whether it's Josh or Benny, whomever you're talking about at the moment, they can do no wrong in the world.

And their movies are good.

And A24 is A24.

But when I watched that trailer, because I'd heard people talking about it, and I didn't see the trailer until like a week and a half ago.

I got done with it and I turned to my wife and I said, did I just watch an SNL sketch?

Cause that's what this feels like.

This feels like an SNL sketch.

It doesn't feel like a real movie.

It looks like something they wrote cause it looks 10 kinds of ridiculous.

And

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this

Greg Bach

is the big award.

Like this is what's being nominated.

Like there's a part of me that also says, okay, if a movie has a certain actor in it, they then just automatically get like F1.

Why was F1 nominated at all?

Sorry, I'm getting into my place here.

I'm sorry.

That's

enough.

Yeah.

No, I think, um, yeah, I can see that you're saying like, uh, are we gonna give it to the ping pong guy?

You know, our highest honor.

I love that movie, Marty Supreme.

And, you know, there's so much more going on there besides the ping pong or the

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ping pong

is actually kind of awesome.

Um, but I, yeah, it's not like one battle is like a much more.

weighty movie, but no, I think it's a lot of fun in spots.

Same with sinners, right?

There's

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a

lot going on there.

So that might, that might have been a factor, but I think it is kind of like what you're saying.

He just kind of wore thin on a lot of people over

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the

course of like these campaign seasons are so long.

I mean, it's like, it's mid-March and they started doing awards in like November, December.

So.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah.

Now we get a nice two week break and then awards.

That's

Pete Schwaba

right.

You know it's interesting Rob we've talked before about sinners versus one battle after another and I almost feel like I wish they were out in separate years because I thought I enjoyed I told you this I've enjoyed one battle after another a little bit more than sinners but I thought sinners was a masterpiece on a few levels and I just watched both of those films in the last two days

Is that fair to say like sinners could have won a different year but it was just up against another masterpiece by Paul Thomas Anderson who also hadn't won an Oscar before the other night?

Yeah, it's hard to say.

I mean, I think that's true.

They were my one-two best year list as well.

Sinners just behind one battle.

And yeah, in a weaker year for sure sinners would have won it.

It seemed like there are a lot of really good films and you know the other thing

is I think getting back to the way the reasons people have I think people just thought it was Paul Thomas Anderson's time like he like he's never won an Oscar even for writing and he's made so many good movies over really 30 years I think or almost 30 years his first one hard eight so you know he's in his mid 50s and he's obviously really vital but like this was the movie that everyone was like okay we're gonna finally honor him and um that's tough to beat especially when Ryan Coogler

is younger and is also made a lot of great movies, but obviously has more road ahead of him to make a lot more and can pretty much do whatever he wants now.

So

Greg Bach

I mean, that's the thing too, is I thought is like between him and his wife now, like he has made so much money for these.

and he's got so much critical acclaim, not just popular acclaim like he and his wife as a production team because they produce together.

I mean, they can go to the way of building their own studio at one point.

I just feel like I just see, I see no end in sight with their creativity, but also their business acumen is going to be very, very much a part of their journey.

But, and something that you've taught, you talked about as well as other people when we talk about film is this notion of it's their time.

it's you know, they haven't won it like and we've seen examples throughout the years and one I bring up is now is like, you know Delroy Lindo has been acting for like 50 years

Kathryn Lake

and he's been

Greg Bach

around for a long time and the fact that you know Sean Penn got the best his third Academy Award I mean to me like that notion of like well, it's his time It's like well, and I'm not asking I'm not like saying tell me the answer but like it was

it was Paul Thomas Anderson's time, but it wasn't Delroy's time.

It wasn't, you know, it was Michael B. Jordan has been acting for a long time, but he's 39.

Timothy Chalamet is 30.

Like it just feels like every way to explain why Oscars are given out, there's always someone at that same ceremony.

We're like, but what about that person?

Yeah, like, why didn't they get it then?

Or why did?

They get it, you know, it's a very weird system.

It's hard to wrap your brain around.

Yeah, I mean, because it's people voting and people have a lot of different, you know, ideas and motives going in, you know, and I, yeah, that was honestly, Sean Penn winning was a real surprise to me.

His third one.

I mean, I think he's great in one battle, but like that whole category was really stacked with Delroy Lindo still in Skarsgard.

I thought Jacob Elordi was amazing in.

in Frankenstein.

Oh, Bonita Dottoro was also great in one battle.

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That was my

favorite performance in the film.

But Sean Penn was maybe the showiest.

But you know, the guy didn't even show up at the ceremony.

Probably because you couldn't smoke in the auditorium.

He was in Ukraine.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, was he?

Yeah, he was hanging with Zelensky.

And it's interesting because I think...

Sean Penn deserved it.

He took a lot big swings with that.

That could have come across as caricature-ish.

He crushed it.

And the fact that he's in the same category with Benicio del Toro, they're both supporting actors, but Sean Penn stole that movie, so to speak, from a supporting actor standpoint.

Like, I just thought he was, and Delroy Lindo is great in a lot of stuff.

I didn't think his performance compared to Sean Penn's though, in Senors.

He was great, but Sean Penn just...

put himself out there.

It worked.

I thought he was great.

Greg Bach

Yeah.

I think with all the comedy that was happening of all the written jokes that happened that night, the best line was from Kieran Culkin when he says, I will accept on behalf of Sean Penn, who couldn't be here or probably

doesn't

Greg Bach

want to be here.

I'd

love that.

Greg Bach

I love it so much.

Just so, so good.

I mean, you said you said it too.

Like, you know, it was.

And I apologize to Pete and Tom for repeating what I said last week but or No yesterday because today is Tuesday yesterday's Monday.

My goodness times of construct is The fact that like last year, you know Conan's first year happened Everyone was very excited the LA fires were going on people need everyone not just the people at home But like celebrities who lost their homes everyone needed a time to come together and that's what I felt like that moment was and so it was like this knockout

performance all throughout the evening.

But last night, it felt like we were back to the old days of here is a world-class comedian doing his best to entertain the people in the room and the people watching.

And you have a room full of stuffy suits and actors who don't know how to laugh at themselves.

And therefore, the jokes did not hit as well as they should have because there were phenomenal jokes in there.

And you could just hear that.

Right.

Right.

Yeah.

No, I agree with that.

I think it was, you know, I think that's a tough.

That's a tough room, I think, for a comedian to, as you say, to be trying to, you know, make the people in the room laugh because that's, you know, it sounds better.

And then also trying to keep people on the home, people at home entertained so you're not too inside with your jokes.

I thought he was, I thought he was funny.

I liked sort of the running gag about how old the Oscars are and the changes with like the YouTube, the bit with the YouTube ads with Jane Lynch and erupting and stuff.

And yeah.

Yeah, so I thought that one worked.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I thought it was good.

I mean, I mean, I was just more struck by like how the most famous people in the world can't seem to read a teleprompter and talk like like the Sean or the Chris Evans, Robert Downey Jr.

thing

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was

like a train wreck.

And like those were supposed to be excited for the new Avengers movie and they can't even like they, you know, they can't even bring like 10% of their charisma to the stage for that.

Or I was just really

surprised by that.

I mean, they might have been drunk, too.

I hope so.

Yeah.

It's a party.

I mean, come on.

Yeah.

Robert

Pete Schwaba

Downey Jr.

probably should.

Yeah.

Yeah.

True.

Good point.

We have about a minute, Rob.

What was your what were your thoughts on the Rob Reiner tribute?

I thought it was really good.

I thought they did.

Unfortunately, there's so many people we lost last year.

That

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was the

problem.

The tragedy because you had Robert Redford and Rob Reiner and Diane Keaton.

And then, of course, Robert Duvall and, like, you know, Catherine O'Hara.

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It was

really tough.

But I really liked how they did that with all the people from Rob Reiner's past

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movies.

Greg Bach

Oh, my God.

Oh,

yeah.

Yeah.

Oh,

Greg Bach

that was excellent.

Carrie L was and, yeah, it was it was really well done.

Yeah.

Greg Bach

Yeah, absolutely.

I completely agree that that moment set me.

I was like like that moment when they all turned around I gotta I gotta stop I can't do this right now.

Yeah,

Pete Schwaba

that was Awesome stuff, buddy.

As always.

Thanks for joining us and I will look forward to seeing you at the Wisconsin Film Festival Talking to you again on the show in a few weeks.

Hopefully great.

Great.

See you guys.

You too, Rob.

That's Rob

Kathryn Lake

Thomas.

Pete Schwaba

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All right, we are coming back.

Greg, you know we're coming back?

You know what we call this now?

What do we call it?

Kathryn Lake

The Nightcap.

Coming up next on the Civic Media Network.

Greg Bach

Welcome back to Nightlight with Pete Schwabba and Greg Bach.

My name is Greg Bach.

Sitting across the state with me is Pete Schwabba here on the Civic Media Network.

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We have a fantastic show for you tomorrow.

We'll be talking to an Iranian-American journalist and author to talk about the war, to talk about the war in Iran.

His name is Huma.

Majd.

He is going to be here talking about his books as well as just his experience as an Iranian American and his reportings and we're probably going to get some very frank discussion on the of the Iran War.

And I would I'm going to be interested to hear maybe his take on the news we spoke about Mr. Joe Kent earlier in the show leaving the Trump administration because he doesn't believe this is a

legitimate uh effort to create change so and then we'll also be speaking to actress winter williams and director matthew brown to talk about their studio called in the pine studio it's a midwest film studio which is i think is a great thing i'm sure pete that's pretty cool a movie studio right here in the midwest that's excellent

Pete Schwaba

they're in the midwest and they're in mid wisconsin they're in stevens point and uh it's a great uh i i'm very anxious to talk about them to find out how that's going especially

Hopefully they will benefit from the new incentives too.

So yeah, their timing might be great.

Greg Bach

That's all gonna be for you tomorrow.

We're gonna be right back here, 5 p.m.

to 7 p.m.

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Now it's time, Pete, to get to this new thing we're doing here.

Yeah, it's called the nightcap.

There it is.

Tom, do

Pete Schwaba

we have, we don't have that yet,

Greg Bach

do we?

Oh, I thought we did.

Okay, my apologies.

That's not me.

I thought we had some sort of suit to come.

Okay.

All right.

All right.

All right.

Well, the nightcap is where we just wrap up the evening show and just kind of, I would say pat ourselves on the back because we live in a world where, you know, not everyone's just walking around saying, Hey, good job, buddy.

This is where we say, Hey, good job, buddy.

Pete Schwaba

They're not forthright with their compliments.

Greg Bach

Exactly.

They keep their compliments themselves, which just hurts.

I thought it was a very, very good show.

I had a good time.

What about you, Pete?

Pete Schwaba

Great guests.

It was really fun talking to Rob and Mace and getting a weather update, talking some movies and Oscars and upcoming events in Madison, reading your texts.

We've got a few texts here left.

We got Cam who says, a nightcap is also using marijuana right before bed to conclude the night.

Okay, good noted.

There

Greg Bach

we are

Pete Schwaba

made himself susceptible to a citizen's arrest.

But Cam doesn't seem concerned about that.

Our pal Chris Casper in Madison says it's not people referring to the Oscars.

It's famous people giving other famous people awards.

The whole thing is gross.

Greg Bach

I

Pete Schwaba

guessing Chris did not watch.

Greg Bach

I disagree with that statement.

I don't I'm not huge on awards.

Like I think it's a big like whatever, you know, fine, you guys.

But

It's not, I don't think it's just famous people.

Pete, you know that industry, it's a lot of people behind the scenes who also vote, they're not famous, they're not rich.

They're just people who work in an industry they love and it's their chance to voice their opinion.

Pete Schwaba

It's overall a great thing.

I understand why people criticize award shows or the Oscars because that is the perception, but you're right Greg, it's people behind the scenes, caterers, set designers, everybody.

The amount of work and

Labor put into effect just from the Oscars broadcast alone is incredible and my feeling I used to feel like I didn't like award shows either But I feel like anything in this day and age that celebrates the arts and in my case particularly movies because I love movies I am all for that's why when Timothy Chalamet even if he was misinterpreted Don't rip another art form.

These are beautiful things that have been around we need them desperately So I'm all for award shows and selling anybody who puts themselves out there creatively

Greg Bach

Janet in Madison listening on WMDX says, Timothy Chalamet has been nominated three times so far.

First for call me by my name, then a complete unknown.

And then this year for Marty Supreme.

He will get an Academy Award someday.

He will.

And it might not be when he wants it.

It might only be one as an entire career.

But guess what?

Winning one Oscar, you're still way up on like billions of people.

Pete Schwaba

Exactly.

Did we get Tyler's text writing Metro?

We read that, yeah, right.

Greg Bach

Yes, we did.

Yes,

Pete Schwaba

we

Greg Bach

did

Pete Schwaba

indeed.

Okay, I think we have one more social media text here.

Donna Marie says

Greg Bach

her

Pete Schwaba

favorite thing about St.

Patrick's Day is drinking and singing.

So there you go.

That's

Greg Bach

a fine

Pete Schwaba

answer.

Greg Bach

I went out for...

Today is St.

Patrick's Day.

I'm not doing anything.

I'm going to go home.

I'm going to greet my dog.

I'm going to pet her.

I'm going to go home.

But I guess we celebrated this past weekend by having a Bloody Mary on Saturday morning like we always do.

That was my celebration.

Pete Schwaba

Non-alcoholic beer tonight Greg and I'm gonna celebrate Dom's tacos.

He's gonna feed his roommate as he

Greg Bach

does

Pete Schwaba

a little too often It sounds like but and I'm gonna celebrate both of you it was fun celebrating St.

Patrick's Day with two swell guys

Greg Bach

Thanks, thanks.

That's just you're too nice I'm gonna

have a whiskey with my taco tonight.

Are you old enough?

Yeah, well, yeah.

Pete Schwaba

Shots fired, baby.

Here's the thing, Greg.

You know, that was funny.

Haha, I get it.

But Dom is a badass and he, he, I have seen him take down a guy twice his size at Paul's one night.

It's the truth.

It's the truth.

Remember that time that Casper

Pete Schwaba

slipped off to you and you took him down

because he

Pete Schwaba

hated the Oscars?

Casper, don't come into this room right now.

Okay, I promise.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, is he there

tonight?

He might be.

Pete Schwaba

You're

Greg Bach

trying to start stuff from like miles away, Pete, right now.

My goodness.

All right.

With that being said, on behalf of Pete, I'm going to thank Dominic.

I want to thank Tucker.

I want to thank engineering and traffic without them.

We are talking into microphones that do not work.

Everyone who texted called in everyone who put a comment on the live stream, participated, entered into the contest without you.

There is absolutely no us.

We really, really like to thank you for being a part of this.

Remember tomorrow we're talking to Humon Majd, an Iranian American journalist, as well as actress, Winter Williams.

director Matthew Brown.

So don't go anywhere.

Come on back for the show tomorrow.

Stick around for the keyword at 7 p.m.

for the break in the spring text-to-win contest.

Good luck to you on that.

We will talk to you later.

Have a great night.

Stay safe.

Stay warm.

Pete, sign them off.

Happy St.

Patrick's Day, everybody.

Kathryn Lake

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