Reporter Henry Redman on PFAS Progress, Gas Prices & The Big Arch Buzz(Hour 1)

Pete

Schwabba and Greg Bach.

All in the same sentence.

Hey, welcome to Nightlight.

Everybody happy Tuesday.

It is great to have you here with us as we talk about all the things in life, well, some of the things in life that make us happy and some of the things that we just need to discuss.

Yeah.

And we've got both of them on the agenda tonight.

Sitting across from me in a manner of speaking is the awesomely talented Greg Bach.

Hey, buddy.

Good evening, everyone.

Good evening, Peter.

How are you doing today?

How was your day?

It was crazy.

It was I was all over the place It was one of those days where I had so much to do like house wise chore wise that kind

of

stuff But you know every day's a good day Greg, that's my outlook especially yeah when I have Walmart radio and It's on in the store and they play tunes I haven't heard in 30 years Gotcha, and then they say take Walmart radio with you and I wondered to myself as anybody ever do that

Does anyone take Walmart radio with you?

Does anybody listen to it outside of Walmart?

And it's not terrible.

It's not like it was bad.

It's just like who would do that?

Huge fans of Walmart.

I like this stuff that like you're like just walking around all day long just looking at the ground going yeah, what do such a thing who would do that?

And I get if look if there's a good tune on

And

you want

to keep it going?

You don't

want to

stand in loiter by the door.

So maybe you pull out your smartphone, put the song on, and you keep it rolling.

But I don't know, man.

It was just weird.

I wonder if anyone's ever done that.

Or just

listen

to it at home.

I didn't realize there was such thing as Walmart radio.

Yeah.

That's interesting to me.

It's like it's own street, like another streaming service?

Right.

And soon they'll be charging you for it.

Yeah.

Walmart radio plus.

It's like prime, just with like, you know, less, you know.

Exactly.

Um, Hey, this is nightlight with Peach Wabba and Greg Bach and we are very happy to have you with us.

We got a lot of fun planned for tonight.

So hopefully we help you wind down your day in a very relaxed, um, atmosphere, I guess.

Like the

candles.

Yeah.

Like the incense.

Oh, you

know what?

Yeah.

Candles would add some nice ambience.

Ambience?

What is?

You know what?

I love kids.

I love to calm down.

I love to just put some scoffs over the lamps and get some ambience.

Get some ambience up in

here.

When I can't sleep at night, I take ambience.

It gives me weird

dreams.

Every once in a while, I slip into Moe from The Simpsons at the ambience, Homer.

So that's what I was going for anyway.

Uh, Hey, we got a fun show, Greg.

We

got a great guest tonight.

Yes, we do.

We have from the Wisconsin examiner, uh, Henry Redmond's going to be here talking about an article he wrote regarding good news out of Madison, bipartisan legislation, but like we'll check, we'll check out some of the, the catches in there regarding PFAS led a PFAS mitigation legislation.

Some bills went through to help with PFAS and before the show.

Pete, you said that that's a big deal in Marionette.

So it is.

Yeah.

Well, it's a big deal

everywhere.

But

yeah, for

sure up here in the Northeast Wisconsin.

Yeah, definitely.

And then in the second hour, we'll be welcoming standup comedian Kristen Toomey from Chicago.

From Chicago.

She probably says ambiance too.

Chicago.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So she'll be coming on talking about, she's got a show coming up this weekend at a place called Q's.

I get that actually.

Correct here.

I got a I got a I got a message from the owner today They said like it's pronounced cues cues bar and river deck in prairie du sac So we're talking more about that today on the show and then we'll be talking about we'll be talking about you know Just okay, you know cutting up having fun discussing our question of the day Pete by the way, what is our question of the day?

Dom go for it

Oh, it's

so busy dancing.

I forgot.

Okay, here we go.

How do you feel about cold cuts?

What is your favorite?

It is, ladies and gentlemen, National Cold Cuts Day.

It is

the

All-American meal.

It is.

It's a wedding.

Funeral first can you mean you name it cold cut platter is always good stuff

Yes, I if I heard if I had like let's say let's say if I had 10 grand for every time I heard will there be cold cuts there I'd have about maybe a hundred grand.

I've probably heard that 10 times in my life My rider says I am to have a cold cut platter

Have you ever seen that like when they you know you did stand up Greg like sometimes you go to

the

green room and they have like a They have like a cult if it's like a special show to have like

a

cold-cut platter I remember is that the ice house once and they had cheese on there too and the cheese like starts to sweat It gets that weird film on it.

You know when it's been sitting out too long.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's shiny.

It's shiny Especially when they're like little little square cheese cuts.

It's like and you're like you're like I can

I'm not gonna die if I eat that, I'll still eat that, so I still eat it.

Like the corners start to curl up,

because they get

hard, and then you get sweat on the cheese.

Dami, you still with us?

How you doing, buddy?

Dom Lee, ladies and gentlemen.

I'm not doing too bad.

I'm excited for the question of the night.

I have a juicy answer, so I'm ready to go.

Oh my

god.

You

hear that?

I have a delicious answer,

so

we'll keep everybody in suspenders for just a little bit here.

I think.

I think mine is pretty simple.

I don't know.

I mean, I'm ardent in my belief in this, but we'll talk more about that in the second hour.

Maybe even find out what Kristen Toomey's favorite cold cut is.

I like to ask every guest a question tonight.

It's just a nice icebreaker, Greg.

And I like

how you said your ardent and your cold cut choice.

You got

me very

excited to do this.

But you can let us know throughout the course of the show, folks, at 855-752-4842-8555, 75 Civic.

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Did you get ahold of Zuckerberg?

Mark Zuckerberg told me that it should be good.

But

he said,

don't quote him.

He was at one of his jujitsu lessons, probably.

He's beating up the air while jet skiing.

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And you can let us know whatever you're thinking on any topic

we

discuss here at Nightlight.

We actually have a call from Greg in Waukesha on his favorite call.

I know, Greg in Waukesha.

Love it.

Good evening, Greg.

How are you doing?

Hey, buddy.

Hello, Pete.

Hello, Greg Bach.

My last call into your show, Pete, was BGB before Greg Bach.

Um, so we're gonna call that the bgb era of the show.

Um, fair enough.

I like it.

Um, not to be confused with a bg era, but, uh, anyway, um, you know, this was a hard one and I'm honestly, um, still not sold on this answer, but, um, I'll have to go with turkey.

Um, even though I much prefer turkey, like warm,

like let's talk Thanksgiving turkey, like turkey as a cold cut is still good.

So we're going to go with that.

It's a safe one.

And yeah, that's what we'll go with.

All right, Greg.

Well, here's the best part is you can change your mind anytime you want.

And I'm going to say this, Greg, if you change your mind.

any time you call and let us know.

I don't care what we're talking

about.

Is Greg still there?

I think he's gone.

Greg, here's what I want you to know, Greg.

Listen to the show and see, I have a feeling Turkey's going to be number one, but we'll tally all that when we get there.

But I think Greg's answer is going to turn out to be very popular.

Thank you for the call,

Greg.

Yeah, absolutely.

We asked the hard questions.

We break stories.

Exactly.

Breaking news here.

Greg from Waukesha says his favorite cold cut is turkey.

Changes mind possibly.

And nobody could dispute that.

Like, we can't get sued for that.

I don't believe that his favorite cold cut is turkey.

I'm taking you to court.

It's just not that kind of story.

This is

slander, my good man.

Slander!

Hey, should we get to our three big

things?

I think we should get to our three things.

Dominic.

Holy gasoline Batman.

Oh my goodness.

Have you guys been seeing the prices go up?

What about like Pete?

Have you seen

the prices going up by your place?

You know what to be honest?

I just don't need gas right now But I got a text from my sister earlier who said gas went up 50 cents a gallon overnight in Marinette Which means in maybe Milwaukee or Madison you might be looking at a buck 75 cents I don't know but I'm that's kind of I should have filled up because I knew this was coming right because of the war

Well, we should have, I mean, yeah, you should have known there was a war coming, Pete.

You should have known.

I should

have filled

up

last

Friday.

The AP is reporting the price of a gallon of gas spiked overnight in the US and drivers overseas are filling up tanks.

I will say this, I've got quite a few gas stations by my house.

And this time, maybe even this weekend, the regular, or I would say before the bombings in Iran, it was like,

three, 30 something, three, 40 something.

I passed a quick trip today on the way here.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

249,

not

three, uh, 249 today, passing the quick trip.

It was 2.99 a gallon.

It's almost three bucks.

And that was, yeah.

Yeah, is, uh, are you guys seeing that?

Let us know eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two, eight, five, five, seven, five civic.

And, uh, it says here in this article, they talked to one person named Anne.

She said she paid $15 more than usual to fill up her tank at a gas station in Jackson, Mississippi today versus the previous week.

I mean, we're going to be seeing.

gas, gas prices go up because of the cost of oil.

And this is going to have a knock on effect, this big old incursion in Iran.

But that is like the big thing I saw today driving in was the price of gas.

I mean, I actually had to like, look twice be like, I'm looking at, am I looking at the right?

Is this the diesel price?

Nope.

It's the unleaded price 2.99 a gallon.

Yeah, it's weird.

I don't really pay attention to gas prices that much I have to be honest like I notice when they're low and I try to fill up then but they're never going back to what they were 20 30 40 years ago It's just they're always gonna be high.

So I this is a concern because if you have a 20 gallon tank I have an old Toyota Land Cruiser with like that that's gonna cost me the same with the The social media user another

10

or 15 bucks just to fill it up once.

Yeah,

that adds up over here

Well, and the other thing too to take in consideration is you think about how much gas prices were even 10 years ago.

They were still in the $2, $3, you know, this hovering between, you know, the low twos into the mid threes to maybe even four, like that's where we've been sitting for a very long time.

Plus when the price of oil, so like people always talk about, I want lower gas prices.

Well,

Okay, that's fine.

We all do that's of course a very good cost to cut but when we lower gas prices That's because the cost of oils gone down which means they're drilling less which means people could possibly be losing their jobs like there's a knock-on effect to low gas prices and So when we say we want lower gas prices, we have to look at what that actually means for this country and what it means for our exporting around the world as well

Yeah, it's kind of weird because I remember when Biden was president and he got blamed for gas prices, then Trump got blamed for gas prices.

Based on everything I've read, it really isn't up to the president.

No,

it's

not.

But this war is affecting it, so you could argue that for sure.

Well, one thing we said, and maybe we'll get him back on the show one of these days, but his name is Mr. Global Matt Randolph.

He talked about the fact that it's not about who's sitting in the White House in the moment.

It's about...

who was sitting in the White House when they struck certain deals, which would cause gas prices to go up or go down.

That's what you need to be looking at.

Not just like, Oh, it's his fault because it's his fault cause he's there or yay, he's in the office.

So therefore the gas price, it's not how it works ever, but no one ever listens to that.

No one ever like it's, they don't, they don't, you know, presidents don't cause the gas prices to go up or down.

They don't set grocery prices, but we've seen to always blame or give credit to them in the, in this case.

So.

I think I would be intimidated meeting someone named Mr. Global.

I gotta be honest.

I'm excited to meet him, but I'm just like Mr. Northeast Wisconsin.

That's a big discrepancy there, Greg, but I can't wait to have this guy on the show.

All right, this is Pete Schwabba and Greg Bach.

You've got Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

We're coming right back with our next two big things.

Welcome back Time to kick loose cut loose Footloose.

I don't know.

Hey, this is nightlight with peach wamba and Greg Bach and Dom Lee work in the board crushing it with the tunes as usual It is great to have you here tonight.

Our question of the night is how do you feel about cold cuts?

What is your favorite cut?

We'll read your text throughout the show, but let us know be part of the fun.

It's always more fun when you guys

participate.

I'm very excited to share my answer later.

And I think it's going to be groundbreaking.

But right now, Greg, we've still got a couple of big things.

Let's be honest.

Yes.

Yes.

We have another big story.

This is one.

Okay, so I worked in my daughter's school part time a few years ago.

And I just loved it.

I worked in an intervention room where kids would come in after they got in fights or swore at the teacher or whatever.

And it was

my job to kind of de-escalate and calm them down and tell them they couldn't have their cell phones because this became a rule here in Marinette in the schools.

And

this is a

big thing right now.

I read this on NPR.

They're trying for a cell phone ban.

Now here in Marinette, we did it a few years ago and it was unbelievable when kids got out at recess, how much they actually played again and interacted again.

And some would try to sneak their cell phones.

In fact, there was one moment in the cafeteria where there was like an Amber alert or something.

And we heard all these buzzing phones.

They weren't supposed to have their phones.

Gotcha!

Gotcha!

Exactly.

So I do think I'm all in favor of it.

And the Republicans supposedly want a bell to bell ban.

Yeah.

And some Democrats are with them.

But some are saying, well, they should be able to check it at lunch for emergencies or home situations.

So I've gone back and forth on this one because I understand all of the arguments except for no ban whatsoever.

I don't think kids should have phones in the classroom period at all.

And people will say, what about emergencies?

I'm like, well, if parents need to get a hold of their kids and I don't want to be sitting here going all back in my day, but your parents just called the office, they called you to the office, you would get the call and that was it, or they'd bring you a note and that was it.

Like you didn't have to have a cell phone then.

And there's also the argument of like, what happens if there's something, you know, someone invades the school or something.

It's like, I understand that as well, but

sure.

then make, if, if we can come up with a whole industry that bulletproofs our kids' schools, we can come up with an industry that allows kids to be reachable, not like, you know, there, there, there should be other ways of doing this.

So Pete, you're in favor of the bell to bell band.

I don't know.

I feel like now it's sort of like putting the toothpaste back in the tube.

I don't

know that you

can totally do that, but I'm totally for it.

And maybe, like you said, Greg, I mean, call, if there's an emergency, call the school, bring the kid down to the office.

It's not difficult.

But

I do think, you know, if they want to like check it at noon at lunch, I guess I'm okay with that.

But, you know, I don't know.

I have trouble staying off my phone, to be honest with you.

I do too.

I mean, I'm very much so I'm looking at my phone right now.

It's like, look at me, Greg.

Look at me right now.

Touch my buttons.

Okay.

All right.

But I think that, I think that, uh, you know, you start with, start, yeah, start there.

Start with, you know, you, you have to put your phone in your locker.

You can check your phone at lunch and then you can take your phone when you're gone.

You get, you get, you get it like that one time, but also you can't just be dragging it around the hallways while you're at lunch too.

It's like, I, I, I do believe there is

some.

I think there are benefits to them not being on their phone all the time.

I

agree.

Personally.

And and I know there are people out there who say I'm wrong, but, you know, they can set up like

little smoking areas for phones.

Like go in this room if you want to be on your phone for five minutes and then put the phone back and leave.

I

don't know.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Or go in there and smoke, you know, kids.

Whoa, Pete.

Pete.

They're just cigarettes.

Great.

Come

on.

My goodness.

Okay.

All right.

Well then on that, let's go to the last new story of the evening.

Speaking of health.

So this is, this is a follow-up from what we talked about last week for my handy tip.

We were talking about the big arch, which is a sandwich that the McDonald's claims is all the best of their burgers in one burger.

And it seems that the CEO now has made a video showing how

Good it is.

In a video featuring a man who looks like he's never looked at a McDonald's burger, let alone eaten one.

He showed it off and he really tried hard to make it look good.

And the internet is having a field day with his response to what is the big arch.

Yeah, his name is the McDonald's CEO Chris Kempzinski I think is his name and he tried the burger and he referred to it as he goes This is a delicious product Something like that like and then he took a bite and then he's commenting on it.

He's got food in his teeth It was just a weird video on every level.

Yeah, and the internet's now roasting it for this because like also the thing is When you watch the video plugging the product from like last week it is what looks like a burger in a commercial is

big and is it's huge and you know you're like oh my gosh how am I gonna eat this in one bite but he's eating this burger that looks like nothing more than like a smashed up burger it looks terrible and it has like all these different like at one point I think he's about to he's about to take a bite and he goes oh yeah fried onions like oh no thank you no no no no no no no this doesn't look good at all

it's got it's got twice okay it's got two quarter pounder

Patties on it three

so far.

It's a double quarter pounder with cheese

right and three pieces of cheese and then the fried onions which are pretty caloric as well Yeah, and I he was sort of bragging about it like this is the birdie and he took it out of the box He goes it's very heavy like this has nothing to do with like they just want

to appeal to your lowest, like, hey,

you can

get a lot of food and a lot of bite.

McDonald's does not have salads anymore.

So they have completely just kind of given up on, this is nothing healthy.

And this video kind of confirmed it.

Do you know what I love in my burgers, Pete?

Heft.

I like to have to use two hands.

I want a burger that TSA makes me throw up because it weighs too much for my bag.

Well, the CEO likes it.

It must be delicious.

Yeah.

He looks very convincing, very convincing that he actually eats McDonald's ever.

Show me the focus groups.

That's what I want to see.

All right, folks, we're going to break for the news here, and then Henry Redmond will be here.

He is a staff reporter for the Wisconsin Examiner, and he is here to talk about new PFAS legislation.

There's some cooperation.

We'll hear what Henry has to say.

Coming up on hour two, very funny comedian, Kristen Toomey.

You've got it all right here on Nightlight with Pete Schwabba and Greg Bach on the Civic Media Network.

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We have a comedian, Kristen Toomey stopping by to talk about all the good stuff comedy in Chicago, her shows coming up this weekend.

And just, you know, maybe her hot takes on cold cuts because it is.

national cold cut day.

And our question of the evening is, how do you feel about cold cuts?

Call our texts eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two, eight, five, five, seven, five civic.

Now Pete.

Cold cuts are funny.

It's just a fun thing to say.

Oh, there are cold cuts.

Like you mean like, like, Oh, was it, was it a bad party?

It wasn't great, but there were cold cuts.

Awesome.

Exactly.

Which, which allows me to bring on our first guest of the evening.

He is a staff writer at the Wisconsin examiner and a man with cold cut opinions.

Henry Redman is here this evening.

Good evening.

Henry.

How are you doing tonight?

Hey, Henry.

Nope.

Can you hear

us?

Did you freeze?

Oh,

there we are.

Henry are there.

I'm here now.

Wonderful.

We did it.

Technology.

Good evening, sir.

How are you this evening?

I'm good.

How are you doing quite well now?

We will leave the cold cut Discussions for a little bit.

I want to kick right into this article that you wrote actually came out last came out late last month regarding PFAS legislation This has been a long time coming and for the for the uninformed.

Can you please give a brief review overview of?

this legislation as well as just the money that we received as a state for PFAS mitigation.

Yeah, so in the 2023 to 25 state budget, the governor and the Republicans in the legislature agreed to set aside $125 million in a trust fund to spend on PFAS mitigation, cleaning up people's private wells, providing grants to local governments to

You know redo municipal water systems, but all they did in the budget was set aside the money Yeah, and then we're planning to come back later with a separate piece of legislation to create all those programs last legislative session they tried to come up with a bill to do that and After initially starting off with hopes of compromise that kind of died Mostly over a disagreement over

how much immunity to grant certain types of people.

Republicans wanted to protect what they call innocent landowners.

Democrats and environmental groups did not.

Evers vetoed a bill the legislature passed this time around tweaking the dial a little bit.

They managed to get it through the assembly with the support of the DNR and the governor.

So now it is just waiting passage in the Senate.

when they meet to wrap up their work for the session later this month.

And really quick follow-up to that you mentioned, that phrase right there, the magic, I feel like that's the magic phrase that has been kept from happening for so long, is that where...

Some folks said, yes, there are innocent folks out there who should be protected, who should not be bankrupted.

But the definition of what innocent landowners actually meant, where some people were just meaning, they don't want these big corporations to have to pay for them, for the lands they've polluted.

And it's gone back and forth.

And this money has been sitting in your article says for over 30 months.

Yeah.

And it's, you know, the, if you look, compare the language in the bill that is moving now and the one from before, it's not huge changes.

Essentially, it's sort of which industries are going to be wrapped into that definition.

In a lot of places, you have farmers who accepted what are called municipal biosolids from local dumps to spread on their fields to use as fertilizer.

Those weren't being tested for PFAS, but PFAS is all over the place.

when they spread on that field then that is you know running off and some amount into the groundwater and local streams causing you know contamination and the big question especially for the republican authors is has been how do we protect those people who were doing these activities that the state the dnr specifically gave the okay to through their permits yeah

How do you determine?

I mean, this is bipartisan legislation, but it was the Republicans that were holding up for the reasons you just mentioned.

But how intricate is that when it comes to the legislation that who is being protected and who is not?

I understand that there are some people that are innocent, but also, you know, what we've dealt with here in Northeast Wisconsin, it was kind of a slap on the wrist.

I

think he froze again.

Wouldn't it be funny if he was just doing that

if he was just thinking right now Henry if you can hear us.

Can you call the phone number?

Because you are frozen right now Okay, he's frozen.

Yeah We'll get him back.

That's that's kind of what they were dealing with up here.

Do we have them?

Yes, there he is.

Okay.

There we are.

Okay, great.

Okay.

Yeah, so I was saying Basically last time around it was too broad

this time around, the business lobby was got some manufacturers in commerce and the sort of state paper industry lobby were on opposition basically because the paper industry was going to be left out.

Interesting.

Yeah.

That was, that was the question I had for you because in this article, that's that paragraph really stuck out to me because it says, you know, the Republicans narrowed the definition of innocent landowners.

And I mean, this.

is the best version of compromise because as you said this was proposed in the 2023-2025 biennium budget and it's just sat there but like I guess I have to imagine for some folks that this has to be better than nothing.

I don't know if it's the best version of it but at least it's moving forward and money can be spent.

Is there any talk about where it lands in the Senate right now?

I think they're confident it's going to get through the Senate.

Eric Wimberger, the senator from sort of the Green Bay area has been, you know, like the lead negotiator on all of this.

I don't I don't think that the Republican leaders in the Senate are going to let Wimberger spend, you know, almost three years working on this just to like leave him high and dry when he's finally going to get it over the line, especially in an election year.

Yeah.

I mean, he has been one of like in this article, he's very outspoken about getting this done and that he wants to get it like through the finish line.

He also has a very odd statement, even a broken squirrel can find a clock twice a day.

I don't know what that means, but you know what?

I bet you it provides lots of laughs in the cloakroom.

Everyone loves that line.

We were

laughing about it in the press section of the assembly when we got it that night.

It's funny.

Like he, he's like,

serious guy.

He's not one of the legislators who are often joking around or being kind of quippy, but

apparently he's

so happy about getting this through that he's going to let it loose.

Our guest is Henry Redman.

He is a staff reporter for the Wisconsin Examiner.

We're talking about PFAS, namely an article he just wrote for the examiner.

Okay, so Wisconsin, as I understand it, just

made its standards complicit with the federal ones, where it's four parts per trillion in PFAS drinking water, four parts per trillion is acceptable.

Ideally, it's no parts per trillion.

But what were they previously here in Wisconsin?

And I would like to think the area I live in is raising the bar a little bit, like make the feds come to us.

You know what I mean?

Like what is this legislation?

Will that affect that that much?

No, I mean, in a lot of cases, especially with water law, the state kind of has to just follow what the EPA is going to set.

So if the EPA makes it more stringent, the state is pretty quickly going to have to align itself with that standard.

Really, on the standards especially for largely rural Wisconsin, the issue is that

for every Wisconsinite who gets their water from a private well, there isn't a standard.

There are not groundwater standards for PFAS in the state, which is the problem for places like the Tanistella up near Rhinelander or French Island near La Crosse, where basically these whole communities are on private wells and they're having to get outside water trucked in to have a water cooler in their house for washing the dishes and brushing their teeth.

And French Island just got a bunch of money too from the federal government.

And they, apart from this 125 million, if I'm not mistaken, it was, they're part of like, they are part of like an $80 million program that will help basically get them off of bottled water, correct?

I

believe so.

I don't know all the details about the, you know, money there, but yeah, that I think is right.

Okay.

Henry.

Okay.

So 125 million, you know, this has been going on for decades.

Is that enough?

Or is it just kind of like, well, that's what you're getting.

Make it work with the cleanup.

I mean, and I don't expect you to be an expert on the financial figures, but what's your take on that?

Well, I mean, from the start, they've been saying, this is our first bite at the apple.

And, you know, part of it is, you know, you get these programs up and running, then you can always infuse more funds the next budget cycle or whatever.

But the

program infrastructure getting going is the hard part.

Yeah, I mean, I guess like, you know, the budget process is what it is.

But from the beginning, they said, this is not going to be enough.

We're going to have to come back for another bite at the apple.

You know, even like that's Republicans, Democrats, everybody.

And you know, there's really no idea how much it's going to ultimately end up costing, you know, this

Since the scale of the problem isn't even fully understood part of the bill that you know is waiting to be passed in the Senate includes expanded testing capability So, you know We're still spending money to figure out how much money will ultimately need to be spent

Well, and the other thing too, and I you know, I doubt there was any talk about this in the legislature because you know, they are basically, you know days away from being done for the year but

with, you know, the money that was received was from the Biden administration, if I'm not mistaken.

And I don't know how much more money will be there for the current administration.

And when you talk about EPA standards changing, how we will equip ourselves for whatever's coming down the way from the federal government, because I can imagine that it might be the first bite of the apple, but it could possibly be the last bite too, depending on what they decide they do and do not want to fund over the next how many years.

Right.

I mean, who knows how like.

what the budget surplus that we have right now is going to look like the next time we're going through the budget process.

What kind of support is even going to exist from the federal government that is retreating from a lot of these environmental issues?

So I mean, that's a valid question.

I just think right now nobody really knows.

And it does help.

That money, $125 million, they set aside

you know, two years ago, it's been sitting in an account growing.

It's actually more than 130 now, just collecting interest.

So, you

know, part of it is like, you know, that's a big amount of money collecting interest in this trust fund that, you know, we'll get some ticks up just from existing in a bank account somewhere.

I hope the PFAS aren't growing faster than the interest on the money.

Well, that's, I mean, that's, that's, that's a question I have for another time just because this has, you know, no one's proposed it, but you know, going the way of Minnesota where we just outlaw PFAS and clean it up.

And this doesn't be, this is not a problem anymore, but that's for another day down the road.

We're going to continue our discussion though with Henry Redmond.

He is a staff writer at the Wisconsin examiner.

We were talking about his article about hurrah, hurray.

Finally, there is PFAS mitigation bills, hopefully going through the Senate and then signed into law and people will get some relief.

getting their water cleaned up.

We'll talk more about that with Henry as well as his hot takes on cold cuts.

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Today is internet or it's, I don't know, it's national cold cuts day.

It's not international.

I don't know how the globe celebrates it, but today is national cold cuts day.

Just domestic.

Just domestic.

You're right.

Domestic cold cuts only.

Let us know your favorite cold cuts.

If you don't like them at all, that's fine too.

Any answer is a fine answer.

It's your opinion.

We are talking to Henry Redmond from the Wisconsin Examiner discussing his story about the Wisconsin assembly passing PFAS mitigation.

legislation after so many years of going back and forth on this.

And we're coming to the end of the legislative session, Henry, it is they're going on a long, it's a short work year over a year after the biennium budget.

Is there anything besides this that you're seeing coming through in these last few days that have like big things happening?

Is it seemed pretty standard issue going normal towards the end of it?

Or is there anything interesting to report as they are closing up shop for the rest of the year?

Yeah, well, there's this ongoing back-and-forth between the governor and Republicans over this kind of joint Public schools funding property tax relief compromise.

They're trying to find Yet to be seen if they're gonna reach a deal if they do the assembly is gonna have to come back in a special or extraordinary session and then otherwise there's been this fight going on the whole session over

reauthorizing the Knowles Nelson stewardship program, which has funded public lands acquisition all across the state for about 40 years now, and it is set to expire this summer unless they reauthorize it.

The assembly has passed a bill.

Lots of people have problems with that bill.

It got pulled off the schedule in the Senate last month, so that's really up in the air.

kind of the big thing I've been watching as this legislature wraps up.

I just want to, this is kind of for both of you guys, you know, there's, there's, you know, like, are you confident when they test local drinking water that are being transparent with the results?

Just to go back to the PFAS thing for a minute.

And, you know, they're saying use certified specialized filters.

How effective are the filters?

Like I've heard

You know contradictory information on those two you don't know what you know You can't drink out of aluminum because I can give you Alzheimer's like where you supposed to get your water seriously I

mean

I can't speak for anybody else, but like I live on, I live in southeastern Wisconsin and, and along the shorelines here, we're seeing Milwaukee, especially cause back in the nineties, they had cryptosporidium.

But

we're seeing has an excellent filtration system.

Kenosha has an X. So for me personally, I just sort of trusted me like I feel fine.

I'm not, I'm not hurting nothing's, nothing's turning colors.

So I kind of just trust my government.

I know that sounds weird, but I trust my government be doing the work and something changes.

They'll let me know.

But yeah, I mean, that's as far as, I mean,

yeah

yeah those municipal systems are you know under so many requirements from both the state and the feds um and you know you know madison even which has had a PFAS problem you know painted managed it i think unless you're getting a private well or you know you're in wasa which has spent millions of dollars you know currently installing there

mitigation system.

I think, you know, the tap water is largely fine.

Okay.

I'm

glad

to hear

that.

I honestly, I just, I just don't know.

You don't

know.

Well, I mean, you can also, you can also call your municipality and ask them about the water filtration systems they have in place.

And I don't think that personally, I don't feel like they have a reason to lie to you.

I mean, they're going to be upfront.

If there's a PFAS problem, they're upfront and they're telling you now.

But I

would

say if you have questions, call the municipality and say, what is the processes?

What do we do to make sure the water is safe and go from there?

Now I got to worry about the lead pipes too, though, Greg.

Well, yeah, you should always worry about the lead pipes.

You shouldn't start worrying about them now, but we are talking to Henry, Henry Redmond from the Wisconsin examiner about his article.

I think this is, I think this is good news.

It is compromised.

It is bipartisan about taking care of the PFAS mitigation bills that go in that went through the assembly are awaiting the Senate and then we'll be on the governor's desk.

Now we were talking about this earlier.

You said you had opinions on coal cuts, Henry.

Go.

Okay, so on a sandwich, I want like a spicy salami, crisp it up like bacon and then put it on like a panini.

If we're just eating cold cut straight, there's a local butcher in my neighborhood, meet people here in Madison that makes a lamb salami, like kind of Euro mix that is funky and definitely not for everybody, but I'm a big fan.

I think salami and bacon.

I'm just worried you're not getting enough sodium there.

You might want to add some salt to that.

Yeah, I'm kind

of with you.

It's not both on a sandwich.

The salami crisps up like bacon.

OK.

Because salami is one of the only ones I can really tolerate.

I can't eat bologna anymore.

Turkey's OK, but salami, there's something about salami mustard and maybe a slice of cheddar cheese.

It'll take you home every day.

OK, wow.

See,

I'm

just.

Henry,

would

he kill you to write an article about cold cuts?

I mean, I'm writing about ag pretty regularly.

It's not that far of a leap to get to processed beef.

Well, we will have this article in our show notes, as well as a link to all of Henry's work at the Wisconsin Examiner.

And heck, Dom, while you're in it, throw in Meet the People.

Meet People.

Is it called Meet the People?

Yeah.

Meet People.

I'm going to be in Madison next month, so I definitely going to hit that up.

That is for darn sure.

Henry, thank you so much for being here tonight.

We appreciate your time and your thoughts on the story.

Great.

Thanks for having me.

Thanks, Henry.

When we come back, we are going to be talking about the question of the day.

What is your favorite cold cuts in celebration of national cold cuts day, as well as a great conversation with a comedian, Kristen Toomey, all in the second hour after the news.

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Our Dom, I think it's time we got to reintroduce our question of the night.

Well, it is National Cold Cut Day and it's about time.

So how do you feel about cold cuts and what is your favorite if you have one?

Do you feel about cold

cut

meats?

Yeah, the cured meats.

It's a whole family.

I Listen, I I'm gonna be honest.

I put on social media.

No cold cuts.

I don't ever have to eat them I don't think they're particularly healthy.

Not that I'm a picture of health, but I do

I love a good, if it's made in the right deli with some good Italian seasoning or dressing

or something, I

love a good cold cut sandwich, but I never make it at home.

I never make a sandwich like that at home.

Oh, what about you, Greg?

I don't

know.

I don't, okay.

So I don't make a lot of sandwiches at home anymore, but when I did, I would always, it would use, it would usually be a turkey or a nice slice of London broil, which is as a cold cut.

We don't, we just, I feel like people sleep on.

That's not a cold cut, is it?

It's not.

It's a piece of shaved meat.

I mean, it looks like every other piece of shaved.

Yeah, a piece of London broil with a slice of Munster.

Oh my goodness gracious.

I also grew up every single day in school.

Monday through Friday, I always had a bologna sandwich.

So I'm adept at the, but now for me, I would say because I don't partake in cold cuts a lot,

I always gravitate towards a good pastrami.

Mmm, yes.

I love a pastrami.

I do too.

I will say, like I say, cold cuts kind of gross me out.

But if you heat it up like an Italian beef sandwich, forget

about it.

I

love it.

Pastrami, a good Reuben sandwich.

It's the cold, because I'm with you like when I was growing up.

I had a bologna sandwich and at some point I just looked at it and I went, that's really gross.

And I

don't know when that happened.

But hey, Dom, do we have that clip?

To me, okay, at first I want to preface this by saying the word bologna is funny.

Because it's not spelled the way it sounds.

It's bologna.

Bologna.

So one of my funniest TV characters singing about bologna.

Here you go, Dom.

My bologna has a first name.

It's a Joe M. E. R. My bologna has a second name.

It's a Joe M. E.

R. That's

it.

He's so stupid.

What's funny is that I grew up with the bologna sandwiches, you know, the packaged bologna.

You got the grocery store, but it wasn't until last year when I went to Memphis, Tennessee.

And I had a bologna sandwich barbecue, like Tennessee style.

And it was,

it

was like nearly an inch thick bologna.

It was just, it was amazing.

And I wanted to eat like, and they were, they were not cheap.

And I was like, I ate it.

And I said, I want another one right now.

It was so, so.

So good, uh, Bridget listening right now texting in, uh, saying turkey breast with Mayo and veggies.

Okay.

Oh

yeah.

I could roll with that.

I like that.

I like that a lot.

Uh, Stacy Sue Johnson says shaved hard salami.

That, that just doesn't, it sounds horrible.

Hey, Stacy, live your life.

I

know you enjoyed that.

I shouldn't say that.

I think initially.

I think mustard is the savior of cold cuts, because that's what I used to have on bologna.

And to me, the mustard was such a pungent taste

that I could

muscle down the bologna.

But like I said, hard salami or salami.

It's got the little white specks in it that's basically fat, right?

So that I was kind of like, but like I said, you put a piece of cheddar cheese or some mustard on that.

It's outstanding.

JB Thompson on the stream says, is there a national day for everything?

Yes.

Yep.

He says cold cut platter was the predecessor to pizza for company award parties.

Thank you for all that.

Thank you for all that you do.

Pete's been working here for 35 years.

Here's a watch and a sandwich

Crackers

crack is ham.

Oh crack is ham.

That's a that's like that's a that's a high-end type of ham It's like boar's head.

Crack is ham.

I don't think I know that It's a it's a label.

Yeah, okay.

We have we have some calls on the line, too We got Ali in the Northwoods Ali good to hear from you friend.

What would say you about the question of the night?

He stole my answer.

I was gonna sing you the Oscar Mayer song.

Please do.

Come on, Ollie.

You can still sing it.

My baloney has a first name.

It's B-O-L-G-N-A.

My baloney has a second name.

It's O-S-E-A-R.

Yeah.

Oh, thank

you, Ollie.

We did that.

That was much better than Homer Simpson, Ollie.

Very well done.

Thank you so much, Ollie.

We appreciate it.

Thank you so much for calling in.

There are some, there are some on here in the list.

So like olive loaf is considered a cold cut liverwurst.

I cannot do the worst.

Sorry.

I grew

up with like the pimento loaf.

What is appealing about that?

What was going on in the board room?

We've got a really gross meat here.

Let's put something even grosser to take away the attention from the gross foundation of the sandwich.

Guys, we have a problem here.

We have a ton of ham laying around, and not the good ham either.

It's shiny, sweaty ham.

And we have about 32 pounds of olives.

Green pimento stuffed olives.

What do we do?

And then one guy in the back goes, get ready to start printing money.

Blender.

Yeah.

Dave on the stream says, hard salami or pastrami.

Yeah, those are probably my two, too.

That's a good choice,

Dave.

I love it.

But what's also on this list?

I'm going to look, I'm going to look it up right now while we take another call.

Cindy from Appleton is on the line.

Cindy, what say you about cold cuts?

Well, I usually turn mine into a hot cut because I make a ham and cheese grilled, you know, grilled ham and

cheese.

There

you go.

That's the best thing to do to a cut that is cold.

Cook it.

Make it hot.

Make it a hot cut.

I like it good.

Henry was talking about it before.

I love a good panini.

Like there's something about a panini is super, super delicious.

One of the things that is listed, cause I looked it up on the Googles and it said, thank you so much by the way, Cindy for

calling.

I really appreciate

hearing from you.

Types of common cold cuts is also head cheese.

Oh, that's really gross, which.

Do you know what head cheese is, Dom?

By the look on your face, you don't.

No, I was just gonna ask, what is head cheese?

Would you like a definition of what head cheese is, my friend?

Yes, give it to me.

Do you have a bucket?

Yeah, yeah around you

or a big bag

Yeah, something like that or just in your hand or in or into your thrifted sweatshirt Just don't puke on the board.

This is this is a definition by the googles head cheese is a terrine of meat jelly made from flesh of a calf's or pig's head set in aspic and is not a dairy cheese

Somehow what you just described is not as gross as the word head cheese.

Yeah, I don't know

Turin, aspic, jelly.

No, thank you.

But it's a cold

cut.

Yeah,

it's a cold cut.

Mike Desitel on social media says, I'm normally just a belogna guy, but I'll never turn down the Kato Salami.

You can keep your olive loaf.

That's where he draws the line.

Tim Baker says, head cheese in all caps.