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Welcome, welcome, welcome to Nightlight with Pete Schwabba and Greg Bach, although we are Pete Schwabba-less tonight.

He is out this evening.

He is a family engagement.

He is partaking in.

So you've got me, Greg Bach at the Boards right here.

I don't know why I'm talking like that, Dom.

That's Dom Lee in Madison, by the way.

He's here being my extra special friend because it's just me this evening.

How are you doing this evening, Dom?

Doing pretty good.

I feel, I've, I've, my role is now Pete, right?

Is that, is that how we're discussed?

You

know what?

I'm saying nothing here because I'm pretty new here on this, on this program as well.

And I'm not about to put myself in the way of like, no, you,

I

say nothing.

Dom is the guy on the ones and twos in Madison tonight.

He is the tech producer.

And that's all I'm going to say, but we're very happy that you are with us this evening, even though we are.

Peatless, if you will this evening, he is in our hearts and he'll be back next week.

We got a great show for you this evening.

In the after the 530 news, we are talking to Milwaukee Mayor Cavalier Johnson.

We're going to be talking about his story, his history in the city, what he does as the mayor, as well as the things he's been working on, both the achievements as well as things he still wants to get done and just what it's like to be the mayor of the most populous city in the state and what

that, you know, the double edge sort of blessing and curse it can bring.

So that will be after the 5 30 news.

And then at six o'clock in the second hour, we will be talking to Dr. Richard C Kelly, who is the Robert Turrell

professor and chair of medical history and bioethics at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, talking about the environment, talking about some important environmental issues that have taken place.

Trump administration repealed some important findings and that's going to have major effects both on business, on personal as well as Wisconsin on the whole.

We'll be talking to him at the top of the second hour.

And then in the six 35, we'll be talking about the question of the day.

What's the question of the day?

Well, I'm glad you asked.

Play the music The question of the night this is in celebration of natural national retro day

It is, what is your favorite device before the invention of the cell phone?

Again, what was your favorite device before the invention of the cell phone?

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Get that on your phone or your tablet.

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In the celebration of National Retro Day, what is your favorite device before the invention of the cell phone?

And I'm interested to know what, I don't know if Dom actually will have an answer for this because I feel like the cell phone is older than you are.

It is, but I do have an answer.

I do have an answer for it.

Okay, well, I'll hold off on that.

We'll talk about that.

We'll talk about that later on in the show.

And then we'll, we'll round the show off this evening with of course a handy tip from Greg about a brand new product, food stuff product that's coming out next month has nothing to do with St.

Patrick's Day, but it has everything to do with just

Making good choices on what you buy from what restaurants so that will be the program this evening and Dom, how are you doing this evening?

How's what's going on?

I'm doing pretty good.

I'm excited for the weekend, you know, I'm ready I made a really good Alfredo pasta yesterday that I'm so excited to have after the show Wait, so

did you made it you made the you made the pasta yesterday?

Mm-hmm

Did you not eat it yesterday or you made it you're like I'm making this for tomorrow

I'm making it for and that's exactly what I had in mind.

I didn't have it yesterday I decided I'm gonna go hard on the leftovers and Yeah, I have like two or three I'm gonna have them tonight have one tomorrow and maybe even have some Alfredo pasta on Sunday as well So I'm excited

and you're getting more and you we've talked about this before you're getting more and more into cooking too You're becoming more like and you've gotten into pasta that's becoming your thing correct

like a lot of

guys get into beer

they want to

like

Drink beer make beer know about beer talk about beer at an annoying a length some of my friends at parties But you're getting into cooking and specifically you're enjoying pasta.

Yes.

Yes, I haven't been able to make my own specific noodles But I am starting to get more and more in in I'm releasing my knowledge to the world that I'm ready to go I'm ready to make this pasta happen

You're gonna you're gonna will it into existence you're like a pasta maker in your house and you're gonna start making just a delicious

delectable pasta.

Yeah, and my parents are like, all right, you know, Dominic, you're 22.

It's time for you to start making your own food.

And I was like, you know what?

You're right.

You're right.

I got to start doing this.

And over the past few months, you're right, Greg.

I've started to make my own food.

Most parents want their kids to learn how to cook, just at the very least, they're like, just learn how to make a sandwich.

Even tearing the plastic off of a TV dinner is a step in the right direction.

You're like, no, thank you, parents.

I will learn to make my own food from scratch.

I shall hunt and fish and then create my own pastas and sauces.

And it'll be one day, it will be Dom's last day here at Civic Media because he's opening his own restaurant.

Yeah, that's the plan.

And I told my parents that too.

So if your mom and dad, if you're

listening, be proud of me.

All right.

I'm making my

own stuff.

This whole episode today is just about Dom's parents.

Mr. and Mrs. Lee, please be proud of Dominic.

That's all we ask.

That's all we ask right now.

Thank you very much.

Well, I'm glad.

I mean, you know, maybe one of these days, maybe one of these days, you know, I'll come up to medicine and I'll bring something.

I'll bring a bottle of wine and you can make some pasta and we can do a show.

in Madison while enjoying pasta.

That will sound amazing.

Tony Zimmerman on the live stream says, welcome to Pasta Hour with Dom Lee.

I am here for it.

I think that's the thing now.

If Pete's not here, we just talk about pasta for two full hours.

I would be OK with it.

I would be OK with it.

I don't know if anyone else went.

Speaking of, uh, don't know what anyone else would be okay with.

It's time for, I don't know if that was a terrible segue, but it's time for the top three stories of the evening.

Dom, hit that first one, please.

Oh yeah.

All right.

This is out of Marquette today.

The new Marquette poll finds that a large majority of Wisconsin voters undecided on candidates for state Supreme court and governor.

I read this and I thought to myself, yeah, do I?

I mean,

This is where we're at every every time we have an election We're in we are we are still in February.

I know we're basically in March.

We're like we're two days away from March, but There's still a solid month before the spring election.

There is still many months before the fall election So the fact that people aren't really decided on this is not that

surprising at all this the market law school poll came out and said that less than two months from the Supreme Court election about two-thirds of voters say they are undecided and They will be getting decided because in the next month you will see commercials.

I mean, they're already commercials and whatnot, but I judge

the ramp up by how many ads I get in my mail.

And if you guys want to let me know, if you guys are already getting that stuff in your mailboxes, you know, the mailers, seeing commercials, let me know.

Cause I know this is something that really gets on people's nerves.

Like when we get closer and closer to an election, people are like, I swear to God, I've had, I've worked in campaigns, Dom.

I have had people, I've had people say to me, if you say to me one more thing about the election, I'll vote for the other person.

That's how yeah, yeah exactly people will get that sick and tired of election discussion That's how much they are annoyed with it.

So I just want people to make up their minds and be okay with it and do their thing.

We'll be talking

Somewhat about it over the next few months not I mean we're dedicating tons of time, but we will be talking about the election because it's very very important and Yeah, if you want to let me know are you already getting mailers in your inbox?

Are you already getting calls on your phone or text messages?

That's one thing too We get a lot of text messages for those elections also says the large field of Democratic candidates for governor have no clear leader Most candidates are unknown to many voters have turned against data centers.

That's that's something that you know

we're seeing a lot of we talked a lot about that that as people become more and more understanding of the data centers here in the state they are like no thank you they're going to meetings they're having their conversations they're standing up and they're talking to their they're talking to their leaders and it's really great to see people engaging in that part of the process but as we know as we can see

People are undecided at this point, no big surprise, but you will be seeing a swath of information coming your way via text, via the mail, all that good stuff.

But that is the new finding from the Marquette Law Poll.

Now let's move on to the next big story.

This is out of pitchfork, and I can't actually read the headline because I will get in trouble with both my bosses and the FCC I will simply say radio head to ice go f yourself so apparently and this is nothing new I

Radiohead has shared a brief statement addressing the U.S.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement, that is ICE, after they've been using their song Let Down on an Instagram reel.

And this is something I don't know about you, Dom.

I've seen so many things from politicians doing this before, and I look this up when, you know...

Politicians or administrations are specifically elections.

When they use music from artists, they do not get their permission from and they say, please stop playing our music.

We will sue you into oblivion if you keep playing our music.

And I know that for a fact because this week, Isaac Hayes, the estate of Isaac Hayes, settled a lawsuit accusing Trump of using unauthorized songs.

And on top of that, I found a story on Axios that said there are 15 celebrities.

blasting Trump for using his music.

I don't understand, we do this every single time.

We see people using the music and these artists coming out and saying, please stop doing this, please stop using our music.

We will sue you.

And I don't understand why, I guess the headline is worth it to them and they can pay the money and they can, you know, obviously they can settle the, they can settle out of court with the family of Mr. Isaac Hayes.

But I just find that very interesting that they continually do that.

And also Radiohead.

Radiohead.

I mean, if you're gonna, I mean, like, I feel like Kid Rock would sign over his entire discography to you.

Be like, here, play it all.

Do it, do it.

There's that one rapper guy from Canada.

I think his name, I think his name is Tom Johnson.

Or Drake.

Yeah.

No, Drake.

Well, no, actually, what's funny is that Drake, this is how much I know about the music of the youths.

is that Drake was supposed to be coming out with a new record.

And I think it was supposed to be called Iceman.

And he's changing the names because he does not want any sort of correlation with what's going on.

And I think that's very, very smart on Mr. Drake's behalf.

But yeah, I don't think Drake is signing over his, no, no, totally different Canadian rapper.

Sorry, but I didn't, didn't realize that the, the, the, the, the lane of Canadian rappers was so small.

it was Drake and that Tom Johnson guy.

But this is just, I find this very, very interesting that continually these artists have to tell these people, stop using our music.

And they just keep on doing it anyways, because they don't seem to care.

But that is our second story.

We're actually gonna save our third story for the other side of the break.

We're gonna be celebrating the legacy of a singer-songwriter legend that we lost just today, actually.

more with that when we come back from the break.

Do not forget, after the 5.30 news, we are going to be talking to Milwaukee Mayor Cavalier Johnson right here on the show live.

And then in the second hour, we'll be speaking to Dr. Richard C. Keller from UW Madison about environmental policies.

And then question of the day, tip of the day.

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We are happy that you are here with us tonight.

And before we go anywhere else, it's time to talk about the third important story of the night.

Legendary singer-songwriter, Neil Sadaka has died at the age of 86.

This was reported about an hour or so ago.

He was, I mean, if I'm not mistaken, I think he's responsible for about 150 million records between the songs he and other artists recorded.

I mean, it's, this is breaking up his bad, breaking up his hard to do, bad blood, laughter in the rain, calendar girl, those are like his top ones, but he has got dozens of others and,

The story of this guy is absolutely amazing.

He was 86 years old.

And I also feel free, I've been seeing it come through on the live stream.

Send us your favorite songs from him.

And it doesn't have to be his songs.

It'd be songs he wrote for other people because they just, they not only go through the genres of pop, duop, rock, they also span the decades because the coolest thing about this man's story is that he started off in duop.

He started off as a fifties do up singer in a high school with his friends and he then went solo and he became famous through singing through songwriting and then became he went through a time of not being as popular and then over time people who are younger than loved him so much like some one of his biggest fans was Elton John and because of Elton John he got a job

got signed to his label Rocket Records.

I just, I think that it's very, very cool this story.

And I would actually watch a documentary about this man's life.

He was a Brooklyn native.

He was a veteran of the legendary Brill building.

If you don't know what that is, that is a hit factory building from the early 60s.

That included such people as Neil Diamond, Carol King.

himself.

I mean, the amount of the amount of songwriters that came out of the Brill building is unparalleled.

There are so many hits that came out of that building alone.

But he wrote for all sorts of artists throughout the years, and he will be absolutely missed.

I'm sure over the next few days, we will see lots of tributes to him.

Again, that's Mr. Neal Sudakha died at the age of 86.

Dom, did you are were you aware of him at all?

Were you a fan of his?

I mean, let me ask this question.

Songs that you hear now, you didn't know they were here at his and you're like, oh, yeah, I know that song.

And that's calling it how it is with him and people like the Bee Gees and the Beatles, you hear tunes, you're like, oh, I had no idea they wrote that.

Yes, yes.

I had no idea who he was before, about an hour before we started.

And then you told me him, I looked some of the songs up, knew almost all of the songs that he had.

So he was very popular, very, very well loved too.

Absolutely.

Roger and Steven's point says Neil was the only recording artist to have had top 20 singles in each of the fifties, the sixties, the seventies and the eighties.

And that's, I mean, and that's not including the, like that, like the amount of hits he wrote for other people.

That is just absolutely amazing.

So I just, uh, I, I hope that you can go, folks, you can go and celebrate Mr. Neil Sadaka, his life and legacy because I think he is one of the best songwriters in this country.

ever, period.

But like, yeah, gone at the age of 86, we're gonna, we're gonna play music throughout the evening, celebrating his legacy, whether it's his songs or other people's songs.

But yeah, it's, uh, I, uh, I did not realize until I read some articles this afternoon that he also

didn't know this.

So apparently he was raised with an aptitude in music, took piano lessons at a very young age, and he went to Juilliard, their kid's school, their preparatory division, and then went through Juilliard throughout his teens.

So he was just, you know, very well trained to do what he needed to do.

Roger also goes on to say Neil posted on his Facebook singing one of his songs just three days ago.

He still looked and sounded great.

And that's the other thing too, is his family did say that they are shocked by it.

He was 86.

but they were shocked.

So it seems like this may have been sudden and I'm, oh, that's good.

That's really, that, that sucks for them.

I know it's that, I know it's a very basic statement, but it's true.

I mean, it was a six decade career.

that he was nominated for five Grammy Awards, including one at the second ever edition of the show in 1959.

He was inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame and he received a star on the Walk of Fame as well in 1978.

Yeah, I'm gonna probably put on a lot of his music this week and will probably be dancing around the house because he provided, I mean, some of these tunes.

He wrote a song for his friend, Carol King, who he dated song called, Oh Carol.

And she wrote a song called O'Neill for him.

He wrote a song called stairway to heaven, not the stairway to heaven, calendar girl, little devil, happy birthday, sweet 16.

I mean, it just goes on and on and on.

So it's, it's quite a loss.

And that's unfortunate that it's apparently, according to Roger, he was looking good a couple of days ago.

So we'll find out what happened.

But yeah, big, big.

sending big condolences, memories, our hearts and love to Mr. Neil Sedak and his family for the loss at the age of 86.

We'll be playing more of his music throughout the show, but don't you go anywhere folks.

When we come back, we're going to be talking to the mayor of Milwaukee, Mr. Cavalier Johnson here on nightlight talking about his story, talking about what he does as mayor in the city and just, you know, the, the.

The blessings and the curses, the challenges of being mayor in Milwaukee, more about that when we come back.

And now for the second hour, we'll be talking to Dr. Richard C. Keller about environmental policy here in Wisconsin, as well as around the country.

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Great show still lined up ahead of you right now.

I'm very excited to bring in our first guest for the evening.

He is the mayor of Milwaukee.

His first time on our program, Mayor Cavalier Johnson is here.

Good afternoon, Mayor.

How are you today?

I'm doing all right, Greg.

How are you doing?

I'm doing quite well.

Thank you so much for being here this evening.

We wanted to bring on the

the mayors and the politicians of municipalities to talk about, you know, what they do for the people, their daily, the daily business of whatnot and getting people familiar with who helps make the decisions that directly affect us.

And I wanted to start very basic and very simple with your story.

Tell us about you and how, what led you to the mayor's office in the most populous city in Wisconsin?

Sure.

And thank you for that.

So I didn't necessarily know that I was going to be a mayor.

The reason I got here was sort of two-fold.

When I was 14 years old, I had gotten involved in a program with the YMCA here called Sponsor of Scholar.

And the goal of that program was sort of two-fold.

It was to get kids from low-income families in Milwaukee public schools.

And I grew up in the 5-3-2-0-6 zip code, the poorest, most incarcerated zip code in the city of Wisconsin.

The goal was to get those kids off to college.

I went to UW Madison, became the first person in my family to attend and graduate college.

The other part of that program was to get those same kids involved in community service.

And I fell in love with giving back, with helping people throughout our city.

So I'd help seniors to rake leaves, shovel snow, feed the homeless, all that sort of stuff.

I loved it.

Later on that year, after I got involved with the Y program.

9-11 happened and I saw, you know, President Bush at the time, you know, go to New York City and try to, you know, bring Americans together after that horrible terrorist attack in our country.

And I knew right then and there that I could go into government and have a career where I helped people and brought people together like I saw the president at the time doing.

And I never, you know, look back.

So I started, you know, 14 years old, trying to work my way up.

And ultimately now I'm the mayor and started this job at 35 years old.

I'm 39 years old today.

Today.

No, I mean, like

now.

Oh, okay.

We got you on your birthday.

Amazing.

Well, you know, I mean, happy birthday.

Belated, eventually, there you go.

So, but you, so you've been in office for almost four years now, and I want to just, I want you to speak on, you know, what are your, what do you feel like your biggest achievements have been since you've taken the office, taken over the office for the mayor?

You know, what have you worked to get accomplished in the four years so far?

Yeah, I mean, we've got a number of big accomplishments and small ones too, but I'm really, really proud of, since I've been able to serve as mayor, as you said.

the most populous city in the state of Wisconsin.

To me, one of the first things I sought out to do and knew that we had to do when I came into office was to reset the relationship that this city has with state government.

Because whether I like it or not, I mean, the legislature report is, I'm a huge supporter and friend of our Governor Tony Evers.

And so we had a working relationship already.

But we had to change the relationship.

And so we did, we went in there, the city was facing fiscal calamity and had been for several decades.

And so we worked with the legislature, with the governor in order to get more resources to the city of Milwaukee.

So we wouldn't fall off of a fiscal cliff, sort of similar to what we saw years ago in Detroit.

So I was very, very proud of that accomplishment.

Northwestern Mutual, one of the biggest companies, not just in Milwaukee, but in the city of Wisconsin, is moving

several thousand employees into the city over the course of the next year or so as they complete a $500 million investment in downtown Milwaukee.

Pfizer, if you've got a credit card or debit card in your pocket, you probably have some Pfizer technology on your person as it is.

Their global headquarters was seeking a new home.

They could have gone out east where their CEO sits in New York or New Jersey.

Large office presence in Atlanta and Omaha.

I worked with them to retain that office here in Wisconsin in their downtown in Milwaukee.

Public safety had been an issue here in the city.

Remains to be an issue here in other places around the country.

But since I've been mayor with our approach on accountability and prevention, we've been able to cut crime in Milwaukee by about 25% since I've been mayor.

So a lot of really, really big things that have happened in the city of Milwaukee since I've been mayor.

I'm very, very proud of them.

And so looking down the road, what are the things that you're still working on, the things you want to see accomplished?

I'm not saying you're making an announcement of what you're doing next as far as your career, but those things that are on your things to do list, sitting on your desk saying, these are the big points I need to keep going on and working with the community and the legislature.

What are those things that you're still looking at for the city?

Yeah, I'm always interested in growing additional resources for the city of Milwaukee.

successful venture out to Madison to get more revenue for us resulted in more revenue for other communities across the city of Wisconsin too.

So if Milwaukee does well that way than other cities, other jurisdictions across Wisconsin tend to do well that way too.

I want to continue to drive down crime in Milwaukee.

We've

really tackled it, since I've been mayor, again, with that approach of accountability and prevention, saying that if somebody commits an act of death, harm or destruction, then they need to be held to account.

But then on the flip side of that, I don't want for people to be in a position to commit a crime in the first place.

And so we built out a program called Camp Rise, where we're working with kids and mentoring kids as young as 10.

We're the only big city in the United States.

doing a workforce development program with kids as young as 10 just by way of some of the work that we're doing.

So I want to continue to build out those things.

Another thing that I think is really, really important for us is building out tourism as an economic driver in Milwaukee.

You know, certainly a few years ago we hosted

the Republican National Convention.

We have won the Democratic National Convention in 2020, so back-to-back Milwaukee was on the national spotlight for that.

I want to do more big things in Milwaukee that way.

We made an investment just a couple of years ago.

I did to grow our cruise ship industry here in Milwaukee.

That's right.

We're like the Miami of the Midwest with some of the biggest cruise ships on the Great Lakes.

They come here to our city.

We're a turnaround port for them.

And we're going to shatter those records this year and tourism hospitality is key to that.

So I want to grow our economy, continue to address things on crime and worry about quality issues that folks in Milwaukee care

about.

And if you're just joining us right now on Night Light with Pete Schwabba and Greg Bach, we are Pete Listonite.

It's me, Greg Bach, here with you this evening.

We're talking to Mayor of Milwaukee Cavalier Johnson.

you said something interesting about the crime rates when you go out into the public we have such a divisive world the news says everything all the time all at once and people tend to think crime is on the rise everywhere all the time but as we see crime is lowering and in Milwaukee that's been the case when you go out to the public when you go out to the people

How do you approach those conversations when folks just want to throw crime statistics or, or things they've heard somewhere on a place, whether it's social media on a 24 hour news network, but you have the information in front of you.

How do you approach those folks to say, here's the truth, here's what we've done, here's what we can do better and, and have that conversation rooted in truth.

Yeah.

The way that I do it is with truth and with data and do it.

So when I became mayor, knowing that public safety is something that folks in Milwaukee care about and are concerned about as they rightfully should be, I said, okay, what we're going to do is go before the people every quarter and tell them exactly what's going on with public safety.

We have been probably the most transparent administration in this city as it relates to public safety in Milwaukee.

So myself, the police chief, the district attorney,

the leader of our department of community wellness and safety, we will go out each and every single quarter and tell the people, the visitors, tourists, the commuters.

exactly what it is as it relates to crime statistics in Milwaukee over the course of the last three months.

We don't sugarcoat it, we just give them the facts, the data, our plans for the future, what they can do in order to help us to continue to drive down crime.

So that's the way that we approach it.

We tell the truth and we present the data and we do it every single quarter.

As we mentioned before,

You are the mayor of Milwaukee, the most populous city in Wisconsin.

I feel that I lived in Milwaukee for 20 years.

I'm a southeastern Wisconsin kid born and raised in this area.

I have a lot of love for that city.

And I feel Milwaukee is easily taken to become political fodder for politicians and other folks in the news, running for office.

Whatever they're doing, they can use Milwaukee always as the example.

When you hear that, again, how do you have those conversations with folks, maybe even outside of Milwaukee, or as you said before, with legislators, when you're trying to broker deals who have this mindset about Milwaukee, however they've been fed, you have to go in and say, no, no, this is Milwaukee, and this is how what we do affects you as well.

How do you approach those conversations to sort of get people off of their generalized ideas of the

city?

For a lot of folks, you know, Milwaukee is a thing that's kind of over there.

It's been painted for decades as this big boogeyman that you can't really engage with, can't really go to, at least for Republican members or some Republicans who are running for statewide office or office in a particular district.

That isn't the case.

When I have the opportunity to go

and talk to them about the city, about Milwaukee, my home,

and

everything that it brings to the state.

It really starts to turn their attention and their eyes to say, hey, I didn't really consider that about Milwaukee.

I mean, what happens here, and this is part of the reason why I take this job so seriously, is that whatever happens in Milwaukee has an impact on the rest of the state.

The decisions that we make in the city, the decisions that I make behind the desk where I'm sitting at right now can have a statewide impact.

as goes Milwaukee, so goes to state of Wisconsin.

And a stronger Milwaukee means a stronger Wisconsin.

Anyway, that's good for the city and the people who live here, certainly.

But that's good for other communities around the state of Wisconsin, too.

I mean, just think about, you know, tourism, like I was just talking about, right?

When people come to this city and they spend money and Milwaukee is the place where one in four visitors to the state of Wisconsin, they interface with the state by coming here.

for some event here, whether it's brewers, whether it's our incredible dining scene, whether they're taking away one of those cruises that we're just talking about, you know, you know, any of those things, they spend dollars and when they spend those dollars, their tax and those taxes go into the shared revenue pot.

And when more people come and spend dollars in Milwaukee, that's more revenue that goes to other communities all across the state.

So what happens here has a profound effect on the rest of the state of Wisconsin.

I don't disagree with you at all.

I mean, I, living in Milwaukee, running, producing shows in the area, we would have comedians come in from all over the country, all over the world, and I guarantee you at least a few times a month, they would walk in on a Saturday evening and they go, I had no idea that Milwaukee was so amazing.

I had no idea there was so much to do, so much food, so much, and the other thing too is,

the expense of it all because these are people who live in New York, Los Angeles, big expensive cities.

They come here and they're like, I didn't know so cheap.

I'm like, yes, it's a great, it's a great city.

It's an amazing state.

And I always love having those conversations cause their eyes light up cause they went to a museum or they went to a ball game or they just walked around the city and saw people who were just Midwestern nice people.

So,

It's a great conversation to have with them.

I'm loving the conversation we're having right now.

We're going to keep it going on the other side of the break.

I want to talk to you on the other side about your job as the CEO of Milwaukee and how you represent.

your city on the world stage, as well as, you know, some of your favorite things, things you want us to know about, about Milwaukee, as well as, um, you know, just finally some, maybe some hidden gems that you'd love for us to visit while we're there.

But more with Mayor Cavalier Johnson after the break.

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That was a celebrating the life and times of Mr. Neil Sadaka today.

He lost, we lost him at the age of 86, one of the great singer songwriters of this American world.

Very happy you're here with us.

We are talking to the mayor of Milwaukee, Cavalier Johnson.

We were talking about his story, the, you know, the accomplishments so far as, as far as being mayor of the most populous city in Wisconsin, what he sees that still needs to be done.

And

I worked for the mayor of Racine for about six years in a long lifetime ago.

And something he always said to me was that, I am the CEO of the city.

It's my job to go out to the world and sell Milwaukee and get people interested in Milwaukee.

On that idea, as the CEO, if you will, of Milwaukee, what do you do when you go out to, whether it's conferences outside the state or around the world, how do you get people excited about Milwaukee?

Well, actually, first.

Was the mayor you work for?

Was it John Dicker?

It was.

Yes, it was.

Love

that

guy.

So here's

the connection.

Okay, there.

So it's just love John.

Love John.

Great excellent leader, right?

And so I was having a conversation in my office just a couple of weeks ago with John about this program that he's doing some work on called fork farms where we're growing in partnership with Rockwell Automation.

They are growing like

green leafy vegetables at that site in the city like 200,000 pounds per year they'll be able to produce and get that off to you know schools and hospitals and locally sourced and you know healthy and like all this stuff no pesticides all this all those things so it's like innovative things like that the camp rise program that I meant before and so I was just

off at a conference.

You mentioned conferences and selling Milwaukee.

I was just off at a conference in Los Angeles.

I'm a member of the US Conference of Mayors.

And I pitched this program, this fork farms program that we're doing here in Milwaukee.

And we're gonna have a further conversation on it.

I'll be presenting on it along probably with John and others this summer at our next US Conference of Mayors, selling Milwaukee and some of

the

innovative things that we're doing here.

And after some of these conversations, other cities across the country are looking to Milwaukee and saying, hey, what are they doing there?

That's a really cool, really interesting thing.

That's something that we think might be able to work in our city as well.

So it's things like that that we do in order to put Milwaukee's best foot forward.

And as Milwaukee grows, we're seeing more development.

You saw the investment from Northwestern Mutual.

How do you foster growth in Milwaukee while still retaining that blue collar, Wisconsin charm for those who've lived there for a long time, but also attracting people to come live here?

But, you know, it's, I imagine it's a delicate balancing act because you want growth, but you want people to be able to live there and thrive and have a family and grow something, grow roots within that city.

What are the steps you take to walk that balancing act?

Yeah, I'll give you a great example.

in recent examples that

are

happening right now, presently.

So just earlier today, I joined with our department of city development that's been leading this initiative that I've been calling Homes MKE.

And what we've been doing is taking city-owned properties that had come into our possession via tax foreclosure.

We took monies given to us by

The Biden administration, when Joe Biden was president, American Rescue Plan Act dollars, and we infuse those dollars via local emerging developers, usually, you know, small developers of colors with their firms,

they

fix these properties up and they sell them at affordable rates to people who would be new homeowners, stabilizing our neighborhoods, right?

So we're making sure that people who stay in Milwaukee right now have the opportunity to remain residents of the neighborhood.

And then just write down, so that was out in the neighborhoods.

And then right down the street from where I am in my office downtown in City Hall, there is a office building 35 stories that we are working to convert over into residential housing, workforce housing.

And so what we're doing here is saying, when new people come to Milwaukee, especially young workers, young professionals,

they will have the opportunity to live in the city of Milwaukee and do so at a rate that's more affordable, because we've all seen this, right?

I mean, I've experienced this.

You're a young professional.

You get that first, you know, good job, you know, you make one dollar above, you know, you know, some, you know, rate or whatnot.

And then they think you're all good.

Yeah, you don't need anything else.

That's the case.

And so we're working to make sure that we, that Milwaukee is a place that everybody can call home.

whether it's the longtime resident who's looking for their first home ownership opportunity in the neighborhood, or it's a young professional who has moved here for college.

They ended up graduating, getting a good job, and wanting to stay in Milwaukee too.

In fact, this year, 2026, I've declared to be the year of housing.

So we're looking at all the programs that we have on housing.

How could we talk about those, make more people aware of those things so that people can call Milwaukee home?

Well, we only have a little bit less, but about 60 seconds or so.

So I'm just going to ask you really quick.

What are you excited about for Milwaukee in 2026?

I

just talked about it.

You're a housing man.

It's

going

to be a really, really incredible, incredible year for housing in this

city.

Okay.

Excellent.

And then, and then I will ask one, I got one more.

Any hidden gems, anything that you, anyone who wants to visit Milwaukee, you say you have to go to this place.

Like you got, we have some amazing food in Milwaukee.

So

you got to experience the restaurants here.

You can attest to that Greg.

Absolutely.

You

have not been here.

You got to check out our lakefront.

Like many people, if you can see across the other side to Michigan, you can't.

It is like an inland ocean.

It is really a sight to behold.

Absolutely.

I'm a fan of Atwood Park.

I feel like when you go to Atwood Park, you feel like you're in a different part of the globe.

Mayor Cavalier Johnson has been our guest this evening.

Thank you so much for being here.

I really appreciate your time, sir.

Please come on back.

Let us know about the good things in Milwaukee, and we'll continue the conversation then.

Thanks, Greg.

Thanks, Tom.

All right.

When we come back, we're talking to Dr. Richard C. Keller from UW Madison about environmental policies and how they're affecting both Wisconsin, you and the country.

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Still ahead, we have a handy tip from Greg.

So go ahead and get yourself ready.

You know, the weekend is upon us.

It's, it's the, it's Dom, it's the, the end of week one of nightlight 2.0.

And I like to think that we have done a darn fine job in these past four and a half shows.

It's mine to lose in the next 24 minutes.

Just absolutely mess it all up, but.

No, we appreciate everyone who has called in, texted and been a part of the conversation.

All the guests who have been here this week really appreciate this new version of Nightlight 2.0 with Pete Schwalach and now Greg Bach and now Dom Lee.

We're here having a great time and it's time to get back to the question of the night.

Hit it Dom.

The question is in celebration of natural national retro day.

What is your favorite device before the invention of the cell phone?

Call or text 855-752-4842-855-75 civic.

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Again, we are on Facebook, YouTube and the platform.

We still call Twitter and I'll a couple of things here actually, cause we talked about the passing of Neil Sudak.

If anyone wants to talk about his favorite, their favorite songs.

Seaman concert you ever meet him love to hear from you on that one answer the question What is your favorite?

What is your favorite piece of technology before the invention of the cell phone?

And we'd love to know about that now.

I think it only is befitting this question To find out from Dom the answer because Dom I'm not making fun of you.

You are 22 years old I would say

you know, let's see, the iPhone is about to celebrate 20 years, like been around for almost 20 years now.

So you've, you have grown up with cell phones in your life.

You've grown up with tablets.

The internet, of course, was there from the jump.

Like there is not, there's really no technology that you were

You had you discovered it was all there as you grew up.

It's true

Yeah, and I I had a phone when I was like nine years old.

I had a phone very very young

Was it a smartphone or was it one of those phones where it just had your parents number in it?

It was a smartphone.

It was a smartphone.

Whoa.

Yeah, so Whoa, your parents did not want

to talk to you They did but they were you know, I felt like I was kind of a big shot, you know in seventh and eighth grade, but You know it was it was fun

Okay, so someone who has grown up ensconced in this technology that we all know today and for me, I mean, I feel very lucky to know the life before all those.

What for you is your favorite device before the invention of the cell phone?

From what I can remember, and my brother can attest, I was really big.

Is he an older or a younger brother?

Two years younger, two years younger.

So we were about the same, you know, we had the same interest.

And I would say,

The DS, the DS was one of the, I would, I would, I love the DS.

It's my

favorite.

Is it Nintendo?

Nintendo DS, yes.

Okay, okay, all right, all right, I just wanna make sure.

Yep.

Excellent, all right.

So that was what you had before you had a cell phone then, you're saying.

So like for you, it's not.

Before the cell phone.

It's just before you got a cell phone

exactly That's the only thing

I can

remember everything else is kind of I can't remember anything else other than that DS and then instantly to the cell phone and then into you know video games and other things like that But um yeah, I would say the DS was I mean I played a bunch of Mario on that thing.

It was it was great.

It was great.

It was

I, so I did not grow up.

Okay.

So, well, I, I grew up with video games.

Of course, I grew up in the, and I would say the golden age of video games because I remember as a kid, we had the Atari system.

There was Coleco and then you moved into the NES and then into, you know, the Sega Genesis, the super NES and 64.

Like I've watched these systems grow over the years.

I am.

bum that I didn't get more into them.

I was not a video game.

I'm still not a video game person.

The only thing I can brag about, it's not even a brag, but we have one of those Nintendo emulators that they put out officially.

Like they're the classic, if they call it, it's tiny little box.

It's got like a thousand games on there.

And if I plug it in, I'm only playing the following games, Mario, Super Mario Brothers, Super Mario Brothers two.

Super Mario Brothers 3, Double Dragon.

Wow.

And Contra.

But Contra is a difficult game on the Nintendo game.

Like, you die once and you're done.

It's really weird.

But those five games, everything else, I'm like, that's fine.

Castlevania here and there, but mostly those games because those are the games I played as a kid.

Before we had cell phones, I will, you know, I did get a Sega Game Gear, which was their version of the...

Game Boy, a handheld system.

And I played Mortal Kombat like no one's business at an age where I should not have been playing Mortal Kombat.

I think I was probably like 11 years old when I got that thing.

Or I mean, it was, it was very, I was, it was a graphic game, very graphic game.

So we did get some messages here on the text line.

Cameron Appleton says the N64, Nintendo 64, I played my first video game on it around four.

Turok 2, The Seeds of Evil.

I did, the N64 still has some cool games on there.

I know that people still enjoy GoldenEye on that one, the James Bond GoldenEye.

Are you a video gamer?

I

am, I am.

Yes, I would

say I am.

What's your device of choice?

I would say I like the PlayStation consoles, so I like, back in the day I had a PS3, and I played a lot on the PS3.

I know now they have a PS5, what I don't have, but I am a big PS.

gamer.

I love

everything.

So you're, you're a PlayStation.

You're, you're a PlayStation.

Yeah.

All right.

Cool.

Uh, Roger and Stevens point texting in saying the compact disc player, which is interesting.

That's very interesting.

Roger, that you say that because we talked about this a while ago, that people Dom's age are, and my nephew, who it turns, oh my gosh, he turns, oh my goodness.

He turns 22 this year.

Borg.

Um, he, no, he turns 21.

That's right.

No, he turns 21.

Sorry.

I gave myself a year.

But he for Christmas asked for CDs and he had no interest.

He had no like demand that they were new.

So I bought him a ton of you CDs and he was so excited because people and correct me if I'm wrong, Dom, cause I am old enough to be all of your fathers apparently.

But the, there's a, there is a desire to go back to a day of compact discs.

Uh, a lot of kids are getting flip phones.

They're celebrating like the older technology as they tend to do, but CDs are something I did not think would be coming back.

Cause to me one, they were expensive regardless.

They're cumbersome.

They're terrible to move.

My nephew loves having his CDs.

I'm like, I'm never helping you move cause a box of CDs weighs about a thousand pounds.

But do you have any desire in, in, in celebrating the old ways or are you?

Firmly ensconced in you know mp3 on your phone that kind of thing the convenience of Of not carrying you know a book of CDs in your car

I would say I'm big on convenience like I do like those you know Spotify just stuff in my car, but I do I do have some like vinyls that I use every now

and then that's

something that I use More so but in terms of CDs

I don't know, I have a few friends that just like to collect them.

I know a few friends

that just

like to collect them and never play them.

Wait, collect CDs or albums?

CDs.

Just, yeah, CDs.

And,

yeah.

Okay, all right.

I'm sorry.

All right, all right, all right.

I wish Pete was here for this.

See, I know people, I am a person, okay, I will admit this.

I own...

I don't own a lot of vinyl.

I used to own a lot of vinyl and then I got rid of most of it because I didn't listen to it and I hated lugging it around.

I don't like, if I had my druthers and this is, don't, don't, if I, okay, I'll admit this.

If I had my druthers done, if my wife and I decided to move, I would just collapse our house in and on itself.

and just start over.

I don't like moving.

I don't like packing things.

I don't like moving things.

I don't like lifting things.

I'm fine with doing small, but like the the task of moving is huge.

And when it comes to things like books, CDs, albums, those come become very heavy objects.

And if you're not listening to those things, the albums or the CDs, there's really, in my opinion, no point in owning them.

I don't see it as a collect like I get it.

There are people out there who love collecting stuff.

And I understand the collection of albums that I understand as well But I don't understand owning CDs and not playing them that because to me people who own vinyl own vinyl for maybe an investment You maybe have some expensive ones in your collection album art that people put in frames on your wall But I've never heard anyone say out loud.

I collect CDs because I just Like it

yeah, and my friend that does collect the CDs.

He's kind of a

I don't want to out him here, but he's kind of a hoarder like he kind of he gets a mass amount of CDs and they're all over his house and I'm yeah, I just I don't know I agree.

Are you stepping over said

CDs in his room?

Yes,

I am

he's never playing him them.

No, he is not it is it's a crime it is

That's so interesting to me.

Is he go?

Okay.

I'm now I'm more into this before we get before before I delve deeper into the business of your friends that is clearly not mine.

Let's see here.

Roger said a compact disc player Scott on the text line listening on them listening on WMDX says I loved my iPod.

That was something that's, you know, that's very interesting because the iPod seemed to like this revolutionary piece of technology.

You were born in 2003.

Okay, so you were born after the invention and the invention of the iPod.

When they showed that thing for the first time, it was a mixture of, oh my gosh, this is amazing.

And oh my gosh, how is this possible?

Because the whole thing was, we're going to give you this.

thing that looks like a pack of cigarettes, and there'll be 500 songs in here, and you can just walk around.

You remember how you love a Walkman?

Imagine a Walkman times 100.

And to me, that was technology that was not only unbeatable, but also this will never go away.

And then one day Apple just says, yeah, we're going to stop making them.

We don't need to make them anymore.

You can put them on your phone.

Basically, your phone is basically an iPod.

And it just, to me, that iPod was so...

maybe it speaks to my brain part of the fun was loading it was putting it putting the music you want especially the smaller ones when you only got a certain amount like at towards the end they're like hey put 30 million songs on there like

Okay.

I'd really just have a hundred on here and like curate my own little playlist and whatnot, but I do miss the iPod.

I really, really do.

It was a, that was a great piece of technology.

Aaron Zommers from listening on Madison.

He's our buddy here at civic media on W MDX.

He says, I had an NES from my parents and that was awesome.

That was an awesome period.

I especially loved duck hunt and with the zapper.

Yeah.

That was any power glove people out there.

Don, did you ever enjoy the power glove?

What is the power glove that I don't know.

Oh mother glory.

So they invented a toy to go to a toy and they used a movie to sell the toy.

The power glove was basically a controller that went on a glove and you could play.

So like you could play a game with the glove.

The glove didn't really take off because it was very difficult to create games that were exclusively used with the glove that was beyond just throwing things.

And it basically, uh, it came and went.

It was very, very popular.

They made a movie back in the late eighties called the wizard where they used it as a.

a merchandising device, but it kind of came and went.

But if you can find one now, they're hilarious because they look like what the 80s thinks the future looks like.

But we'll talk more about it on the other side along with the handy tip.

I've got some more text messages coming in.

If you want to let us know what's your favorite device before the invention of the cell phone, let us know in celebration of National Retro Day, 855-752-4842, 855-756.

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before the invention of the cell phone because today is national retro day.

We've been hearing from everybody on the text line and the live stream.

Aaron Zommers also reaches out on WMDX to say, my favorite device has to be the iPod Classic.

I loved having a dedicated music device.

I really miss having an iPod.

I do as well.

I really, really do.

I wish I'd still had one.

I will say this.

I think I owned three or four iPods in my entire life.

And I think I lost two of them in my entire life, like just straight up.

Gone and I know exactly where I didn't lose them.

I know where I left them.

There's a huge difference huge difference, but

Point is, we'd love to hear from you on what your favorite pieces of technology, favorite devices, a lot of video games, finding out that people like to collect CDs for collector's sake.

That's very weird, but okay, live your life journey, your journey.

Also, just let you all know on Monday, we're going to be back here from five to seven PM.

We will be welcoming Dr. Mariel Borowitz, who is a professor at Georgia Tech talking about space policy.

And then we will be joined by multimedia journalist Victoria Davis to talk about her.

stories.

We will be having a great conversation.

Then Pete will be back.

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Dumb.

First week, almost done.

What do you think?

I, I, well, I think this, I think this was the best show.

Don't hurt my feelings, Domer.

Oh!

Ooh!

Wanna

know

why?

Why?

Actually,

I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna,

I think you might- You're a

scientist!

You might know why.

Dude, don't do this to me.

All right, man.

I'm new here, too.

All right.

I'm not trying to find sides here.

I'm going to find sides.

I'm going to find sides with the guys whose name is on the billboard next to mine, please.

I'll throw you under the bus.

I'm just kidding.

Please don't, please.

No, no, I would never do that to you.

But, you know, we've had fun.

We're going to have more fun.

We're going to keep moving through.

We're going to have great conversations.

It's been very good time.

hanging out with you and Pete and having great guests so far.

I mean, my goodness, we had the mayor of Milwaukee tonight.

If you didn't hear that interview, go to city media.us slash shows, download, listen, but now it's time for the handy tip of the night.

Ah, it's tip of the day.

My apologies, branding.

This one comes all the way from the group of, of, of burger slingers named McDonald's.

So.

In my lifetime, I've seen a lot of different products coming out of this company.

I've seen the McLean burger.

I've seen, you know, various versions of the Big Mac.

This one here, I feel like is... I don't know what the point is.

I'll tell you what it is.

It's called the Big Arch, which...

Sounds like someone's uncle.

It sounds like a guy who drinks at a Wisconsin bar at the end of the bar And he's he always for some no matter what day of the of the what day what time of day it is he has a cigarette in his hand Even though there's no smoking allowed, but you don't tell big arch not to smoke in the bar It is called the big arch and the tagline from this company is it's like your favorite McD burgers in one burger It's like three patties every single sauce every kind of cheese and I'm pretty sure it has

Deep fried onions on a poppy seed slash sesame seed bun.

Oh Who asked for this hmm?

Did you ask for this Tom?

Not me.

I mean I couldn't even eat that even if I tried it It looks like it comes in a bigger but like it looks like it looks like a bigger Mac It's called the big arch and my only tip really basically is before you before you do before you go into this if you want to enjoy it great

But don't eat this burger with something to prove don't eat this burger say I can take on the big arch because even if you eat it all you've lost Because I feel like this burger is going to create a lot of problems for you internally They'll make you feel things within your stomach that will make you feel bad So if you're gonna handle the big arch, maybe cut it in half Enjoy half now enjoy half later, but there's no reason why you have to enjoy all of the arch Just take half the arch

Then that's my handy tip for the night.

Moderation.

There's nothing wrong with moderation, especially when you're dealing with what I think has about 32,000 calories.

If you do enjoy the Big Arch, please let us know.

It's available on March 3rd around the country.

I'm sure we'll be hearing new stories about it.

The Big Arch.

I was not paid by McDonald's for this story.

All right, we got to get out of here.

So on behalf of Pete, even though he's not here, I'm still going to do it.

I want to thank Dom.

I want to thank Tucker.

Traffic and engineering for all of your work.

Without you, nothing works at all.

Our microphones are switched off.

I want to thank everyone who called and text left a comment on the live stream.

I want to thank Dr. Dr. Oh my goodness, where the name, the name, the name is right there.

It's

Dr Kelly, Dr Richard C Keller, as well as Mayor Cavalier Johnson for being our guests tonight.

And also remember next week we'll be talking to Dr Mario Borowitz from Georgia Tech as well as Victor Victoria Davis, who is a multimedia journalist about the story she is working on.

We hope you have a great weekend.

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Good night,

Wisconsin.

From Washington to Hollywood and right back to Wisconsin.

It's Night Light with Pete Schwabba and Greg Bach.

Connecting the dots on the stories shaping our world with smart takes, sharp humor and plenty of personality.

You know, I really expected more professional behavior from you.

It's news and culture without the noise.

Yeah, come on!

Here's Pete Schwabba.

Dude.

And Greg Bach.

Dude!

Welcome, welcome, welcome to Night Light with Pete Schwabba and Greg Bach, although we are Pete Schwabba-less tonight.

He is out this evening.

He is a family engagement.

He is partaking in.

So you've got me, Greg Bach at the Boards right here.

I don't know why I'm talking like that, Dom.

That's Dom Lee in Madison, by the way.

He's here being my extra special friend because it's just me this evening.

How are you doing this evening, Dom?

Doing

pretty good.

I feel, I've, I've...

My role is now Pete, right?

Is that, is that

how we

discussed?

You know, I'm saying nothing here because I'm pretty new here on this, on this program as well.

And I'm not about to put myself in the way of like, no, you, you, I say nothing.

Dom is the guy on the ones and twos in Madison tonight.

He is the tech producer.

And that's all I'm going to say, but we're very happy that you are with us this evening, even though we are.

Pete less, if you will this evening, he is in our hearts and he'll be back next week.

We got a great show for you this evening.

Uh, in the, after the 530 news, we are talking to Milwaukee mayor Cavalier Johnson.

We're going to be talking about his story, his history in the city, what he does as the mayor, as well as the things he's been working on, both the achievements as well as things he still wants to get done and just what it's like to be the mayor of the most populous city in the state and what.

that, you know, the double-edged sword of blessing and curse it can bring.

So that will be after the 5 30 news.

And then at six o'clock in the second hour, we will be talking to Dr. Richard C Kelly, who is the Robert Turrell.

professor and chair of medical history and bioethics at the university of Wisconsin medicine, talking about the environment, talking about some important environmental issues that have taken place.

Trump administration repealed some important findings.

And that's going to have major effects both on business, on personal, as well as Wisconsin on the whole.

We'll be talking to him at the top of the second hour.

And then in the six 35, we'll be talking about the question of the day.

What's the question of the day?

Well, I'm glad you asked.

Play the music.

Let's talk about the question.

OK, question.

Question.

Question.

Question.

Question.

OK, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Question.

Question.

Questions.

The question of the night.

This is in celebration of National Retro Day.

It is, what is your favorite device before the invention of the cell phone?

Again, what was your favorite device before the invention of the cell phone?

You can text that in, but via the civic media app, get that on your phone or your tablet.

You can also text it in via your phone.

You can call in eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two, eight, five, five, seven, five civic.

It's a, we're on the live stream right now.

We are on Facebook, YouTube and the platform.

We still call Twitter.

So let us know your thoughts in the, in the celebration of now.

National Retro Day, what is your favorite device before the invention of the cell phone?

And I'm interested to know what, I don't know if Dom actually will have an answer for this because I feel like the cell phone is older than you are.

It is, but I do have an answer.

I do have an answer for it.

Okay, well,

I'll

hold off on that.

We'll talk about that.

We'll talk about that later on in the show.

And then we'll round the show off this evening with of course a handy tip from Greg about a brand new product.

food stuff product that's coming out next month has nothing to do with St.

Patrick's Day, but it has everything to do with just making good choices on what you buy from what restaurant.

So that will be the program this evening.

And, uh, Dom, how are you doing this evening?

How's what's going on?

I'm doing pretty good.

I'm excited for the weekend.

You know, I'm ready.

I made a really good Alfredo pasta yesterday that I'm so excited to have after the show.

Um,

wait, so you made it, you made the, you made the pasta yesterday.

Did you not eat it yesterday?

Or you made it, you're like, I'm making this for tomorrow.

I'm making it for, and that's exactly what I had in mind.

I didn't have it yesterday.

I decided I'm gonna go hard on the leftovers.

And yeah, I have like two or three, I'm gonna have one tonight, have one tomorrow, and maybe even have some Alfredo pasta on Sunday as well.

So I'm excited.

I'm ready to go.