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This is Night Light with Pete Schwabba, your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now a guy who's had a paper route for 25 years but never collected, Pete Schwabba.

Hey, hey, welcome to Night Light, ladies and gentlemen.

It is great to be back on the air Talking about all the fun things in life movies TV comedy music you name it.

We've got it here on nightlight Happy Wednesday.

I almost said happy Monday Aaron because it feels like a Monday.

What does it feel like to you?

Yeah, okay, I Have not done a show since last Wednesday a live show we've got two live shows this week tonight and tomorrow night and we're gonna make them count

because there's lots of stuff coming up here that we'll get into, but it is great to be back.

Did you have a good weekend?

Now you were gonna try, I was at the Dora County Film Festival last weekend in Beautiful Fish Creek, a phenomenal film festival, lots of fun.

You were thinking about, you were toying with the idea of going.

Well, you were missed.

It was a fun time and I'll give some details on that as well.

We've got a lot to get to tonight.

There's a weird video we're gonna talk about with Kid Rock and Robert Kennedy that needs to be discussed.

I don't know what the hell's going on.

And we both saw a movie that we're gonna discuss.

Iron Lung, we'll get to that as well.

I saw an excellent movie at the Dork County Film Festival.

Called the librarians about these kind of badass librarians that stand up to people trying to take books off the shelves So that was a really fascinating documentary And it started out the trip was not great Zomers.

I'm gonna tell you why So without naming names, there's a hotel in Durk County.

I really like okay, and we've stayed there before it's got all these great amenities It's got this beautiful view of the water.

It's just a stunning place well

There's another hotel right down the street from that hotel that looks very similar and has a similar sounding name that the guy with two thumbs booked by accident.

And it was the same money and we get there and we check in and I'm like, wait, I was so busy the last couple of weeks, I just clicked, yeah, clicked by whatever book, whatever.

And we got there and I'm like, oh my God, I literally could have canceled it two weeks up until we checked in.

and gone to the other place, but I just didn't even, I completely spaced.

And my wife is like, all right, well, what do we do?

So I had some work to do Thursday night when we got there.

And she said, I'll go to the workout room.

I said, okay, they don't have a workout room.

So then I had to print up a speech that I was giving at the Door County Film Festival.

And I said, hey, can I have access to your business center?

I need to print something.

We don't have a business center.

Oh, okay.

And then we try to hit the hot tub when we got there that night.

It closes in 15 minutes at 830.

Who closes a jacuzzi at 830?

And it was great cause there was nobody in the hotel yet.

Exactly.

So, and then like the checkout time was at 10 o'clock in the morning.

Like everything that could have gone wrong regarding the hotel went wrong.

But here's classic Schwabba.

So the venue for the Door County Film Festival was the Northern Star Theater.

beautiful venue outdoor theater right kind of on the water and That's where I went and Then I realized as I got there there's nothing like I would have had to pull through a snow-covered Road to get there and I can barely see it.

I'm like, maybe there's a different entrance whatever Long story even longer.

We got the venue wrong and when we say we I mean I There's another venue called the northern sky Gould theater in Fish Creek

So we had to go all the way back into town through town to that luckily I left it off time and there was plenty of time But man, I don't know what was going on.

I just had my head like maybe it was weird taking a Thursday night off I can't remember the last time I took a Thursday night off.

I don't know what it was

I won and it was a really great shout out to Kurt Krause and Chris Opper and Antonio Polk.

They ran a great festival and it was a lot of fun and my son had a film playing.

He won a couple of awards.

That was exciting.

Yeah, it was really, it was really, it was fun to see.

And then the opening night film was a movie called The Librarians, which was very well regarded and it played at, I think it opened or premiered on POV on PBS Wisconsin.

Just a few nights before and one of the producers was there.

We'll probably get her on nightlight at some point, but she had great stories about making this film and kind of keeping free speech going and all that kind of stuff.

So it was a really fun, great parties.

You know, Dirk County is just such a special place as far as I'm concerned.

It was a lot of fun.

We've got lots to get though.

Did you see that video?

Zahmer I shared that with you the link of Robert Kennedy.

This is the health and human services secretary working out with Kid Rock to promote health I It's so it was like the two of them got stoned and just said let's make a video like they're promoting working out and Like their buddies and that's fine.

I get it

But there was like zero production value like Kennedy's in his jeans and nothing else And there were all kinds of porn jokes all over the internet about the two of them like like It was really strange it was

What are you 12 flipping off the camera?

That's your rebel side?

It's ridiculous.

Okay, to his credit, to play Devil's Advocate, maybe Kid Rock realized he was out of breath during the four minute performance and needed to get back in shape.

So he called his pal, Robert Kennedy, Jr., Health and Human Services Secretary, and he said, you gotta help me get in shape.

So they put a minute and a half video together and it's it's it's I'm not even kidding like Kennedy is wearing jeans and he gets into a cold bath and then he jumps in the pool in his jeans it's like it's just this weird no-thought-put-into-it video and he is on roids to the bejesus he's like 70 72 and he's got the yeah has he okay

very possibly but it's so I feel like when you've had an enhancement of any kind and you walk around like aren't I special it's like well nice purchase I guess you're it's not like you got there on your own whether it's calf implants boobs roids I don't know I just don't get the pride

Full disclosure, my sideburns are fake.

I paid for them.

So I'm not perfect, but this video is definitely worth a look.

It's really just kind of bizarre.

And if they put it out there like as a, hey, we got Nutty Friday night and made this goofy video, I would have watched it going into it thinking that, like, oh, those guys are goofy and that's fun.

But this is like, hey, Mr. Health and Human Services, Secretary, let's get in shape.

The cold bath And I it was just in the flip-off I just I'm so done with that like okay you flipped off the camera you're a rebel I get it

And the song, that song, that might be the only... I just think Kid Rock is a hack.

And some people, when I go after him, they're like, oh, it's... He's a hack.

I don't like him.

I don't like his artistry or his music.

And that might be one of the few songs he didn't lift from someone else and get sued for.

Ridiculous.

Hey, I think it's time, folks.

Without further ado, we had a celebrity death over the weekend, and one of the greatest actors of all time passed away, and that leads us to tonight's night-like question of the night.

Let's talk about the question.

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Question.

Question.

Pregunta.

Question.

Question.

Okay, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Domanda.

Question.

Questions.

Well, as we all have heard by now, I'm sure, and if you haven't heard, I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but...

phenomenal legendary actor Robert Duvall passed away, I believe, on Monday, which leads us into tonight's question.

What is your favorite Robert Duvall movie?

This is one of the true titans of Hollywood.

A guy, and from a different age, Zomers, like, I love the guys like Hackman or Duvall that are just the everyman.

You know, they don't look like the

the pin-up actors of today, they were balding, they looked like regular dudes, and they carried films truly based on their talent.

Like handsome guys, but you don't see a lot of those type of actors anymore opening movies as lead actors.

And he was one of the best.

No, you know, and he was one of the best.

I just think he was 95 years old and he had a very kind of

a wide array of credits on his resume.

He did very different stuff throughout the course of his career.

He was in The Godfather, The Apostle, The Great Santini.

He played Boo Radley into Kill a Mockingbird.

And I remember the first time I saw him in that.

And I said, I was probably in my 30s when I noticed who it was.

And I said, he looks kind of like a young Robert DeVall and sure enough, it was.

And he had no lines.

That was his first movie role.

Came up, learned how to act on the stage.

Brilliant, brilliant career.

and he will be missed and never officially retired.

Like Gene Hackman retired about 20 years ago and just kind of disappeared.

But Duvall, I'm not saying he worked.

I think his last credit was maybe 2022 or 2023, but love the craft and by all accounts, it was just a great actor.

In tribute to him, I watched a movie last night called The Outfit that he was in with Joe Don Baker and...

Oh, Karen Black, I think.

Anyway, just a different time for movies, the early 70s.

But kind of a cool film.

He just played a guy who just got out of prison, wants to go even the score.

Fun movie.

And one of his many films I haven't seen.

Like, he's got such a long body of work.

Anyway, let us know what your favorite Robert Duvall film is.

This could be fun to talk about tonight.

855-752-4842-8557-5CIVIC.

What is your favorite Robert Duvall movie?

May he rest in peace.

Zomers, you got one?

I just don't even believe you.

And it's not.

Yeah, with Donald Sutherland.

I.

Are you serious?

Oh, wow, no kidding.

Well, I appreciate your honesty and there's no judgment.

I mean, look, there's so much content out there.

You can't possibly see everything, but so that's an acceptable answer.

Well done.

I'm gonna say the great Santini, just because he was such a hard guy.

And we'll talk more about all of this and I'm gonna tell you...

Who tonight's guests are, folks?

We have outstanding guests tonight.

There's gonna be some great conversations, some great chat.

Aaron and I are gonna talk about Iron Lung as well.

Very bizarre movie.

We'll do all of that next.

This is Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Hard to tell.

Is that a Kid Rock?

Did Kid Rock sample that or?

Okay, probably and didn't pay.

Hey, welcome back.

This is Pete Schwabba and Nightlight.

That is the voice of Aaron Zommers, who is producing tonight's show that is not Aaron Zommers or Kid Rock's music that is from The Godfather, which is one of Robert Duvall's many outstanding classics.

And that is our question of the night folks.

What is your favorite Robert Duvall film?

He passed away just a couple days ago and we are talking about his legacy a little bit Another great one one he won an Oscar for is tender mercies from 1983 great film and Kind of the opposite of like a godfather type film like his his resume is so great and I love that Tony Zimmerman called you out

Zomersen says there is some judgment.

A little bit, Tony, but I'm saying like he's got time to get to them, right?

We can give Zomersen some time here to check out all these classics.

So thank you for the text, though, buddy.

All right, let's get to our guests tonight, folks.

We have great guests.

Andy Waspman is here at 535 just after the news.

He will be here to discuss a really fun event called the Nina Run iced beer mile.

Race I think it's a race.

Let's let's pull this up here.

I had this right in front of me and now I've and now I've lost it Mr. Aaron Zomers, but it's a great It's a great event.

They have in Menominee Park by Lake Winnebago and it's gonna be a lot of fun.

It's the beer mile

You have to drink while you race.

And Andy will be here at 535 to talk about this really cool event.

And then we've got Alan Kapiszki, professor of theater from UWGB.

Here at 610 to talk about some really cool stuff and a great production he has coming up in the next few weeks at UWGB.

And then our pal, Dr. Kristen Lierly is going to be on.

She will be dispensing great, healthy advice as well as some

Probably giving me a hard time about various topics, which is fine She's teased me about an array of topics.

I didn't I don't know if you remember this Zommer she talked about lube Yeah, she's an OBGYN I said oh is that necessary for forgiving birth because she was at a convention for OBGYNs and she says no that's for sex and Then she laughed and Conrad laughed and I was like oh, okay, so

She likes to tease and it's great.

Love when Kristen is here.

We'll have a lot of fun as usual.

And then this is fun.

Steve Gillespie is here tonight, a very funny comedian.

He's been on Conan.

He's had best-selling comedy albums.

He's on the show tonight at 720 talking about a very different, very cool show he's got coming to Wisconsin.

It's, I don't even know if I should say what this is, but it's called the Dose Psychedelic Comedy Show.

And I'm just gonna leave it at that.

It's production heavy.

Steve has put a lot of effort into this.

It sells out all around the country and it sounds like a blast and there might be chemicals involved.

I'm not sure.

But you're gonna want to hear that because Steve is a good guy in a very funny comic.

But right now, let's jump to the phones because I know our pal Ollie from the Northwoods is on the line.

Hi.

Hello, Ollie.

How's it going tonight?

Good, very well.

Good.

My favorite...

Robert Duvall movie is kind of a newer one.

Um, we're isn't older.

Um, it's secondhand lions where Robert Duvall and Michael Cain play, um, two brothers and they take in, um, their nephew, uh, who is played by Haley Joel Osment.

Yes.

I don't know very many people have watched that, but it's a wonderful movie.

Um, and the

The two guys are just awesome in it.

Everybody's awesome in it.

You

cannot beat

that cast, right?

Yeah, and they tell tales of adventures in their lives to this young boy who is just imagining the stories and doesn't know whether to believe them or not.

So the ending is great and everybody should see it at least once.

I totally agree.

No, that's a great choice, Ollie.

Thank you so much and have a wonderful evening.

Thanks for the call.

You guys too.

Bye-bye.

All right, that's Ollie from the Northwoods who says secondhand Lions from 2003.

Fresh rating on Rotten Tomatoes at 60%.

Audience score 84%.

So she's right on the ball there.

Nice.

I would recommend The Great Santini.

It's just a great role for him.

He's not a very likable guy, but it's just a hard-nosed military dad.

And Michael O'Keefe is very good in it too.

Blith Daner, Gwyneth Paltrow's mom is in it.

Very solid film, but he's great in everything.

Hey, let's, before the break, Zomers, we gotta talk about this Iron Lung film.

Shot for like three million bucks, made like 18, 20 million bucks in its opening weekend.

It's based on a video game.

and it stars a YouTuber who got it made.

I have to say I was lost during Iron Lung.

Here's my issue with it too.

You're right.

The guy's in a submarine.

The planets are gone.

This is like a blood ocean.

It's dystopian, you know, all that stuff.

But he basically talks to himself, which characters who talk to themselves rarely work for me in movies.

And there are other characters, but he's by himself and he's in this thing.

It's two hours and 10 minutes long of no cinematography other than a dark vessel.

With blood splashing against the windows sometimes nothing really scary happens and it's just it's just kind of dull It's like it's like cinematically.

There's nothing the dialogue is not great.

His acting is kind of one note He's always frantic for two hours and ten minutes, but then he'll go ten minutes without saying anything

Tip of my hat, the thing crushed.

So good for him.

Hey, we're coming right back after new sports and weathers to talk about a really cool beer run that's next on Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.

I'm pretty sure that's not Kid Rock either.

Great find, Zomers.

Welcome back to Nightlight.

I am Pete Schwab.

Great to have you here, folks, on this Wednesday night that feels like a Monday night, but it's actually more like a Thursday night because of our crazy schedule this week.

So it's great to have you here wherever you're joining us from across the state of Wisconsin, or if you're with us on the app or the stream.

Kudos to you for being part of the show, because that's when it's always more fun.

Aaron Zommers is producing tonight's show.

Stacy Sue on the stream says she loved the Godfather movies when it comes to Robert Duvall's career.

And I, those are hard to, it's hard to disagree.

That's about the safest pick you can make, as well as tender mercies because he won an Oscar for that.

But all kinds of great stuff.

That is our question of the night, folks.

What is your favorite Robert Duvall movie he passed away a couple days ago?

And you can let us know on the text line at 855-752-4842, 855-755-CIVIC, or text us on the Civic Media app, which you should have, because it's so easy to use.

It's just downright fun.

Or if you're watching the radio on YouTube, Facebook, or TwitterX, you can drop us a stream comment, like Stacy Sue just did.

All right, we are going to turn our attention.

One of my favorite things to talk about are cool events happening around the state, because...

As Wisconsinites, we certainly have our share of them.

There are all kinds of fun activities throughout the course of the year.

And this one ranks right up there based on what I've read.

It is my pleasure to welcome the event director for the first annual Run Nina Iced Beer Mile, Mr. Andy Wassman.

Hey, Andy, how are you?

Excellent.

Excellent, Peter.

How are you guys doing?

Good, man.

You got a deep voice, dude.

Are people intimidated when they talk to you?

I know I am.

I think so.

I think it's a little taller, so it's a big package they're dealing with, I guess,

right?

They run faster when you're around, because they hear your voice.

Hey, welcome to the show.

It's great to have you.

How are you doing tonight?

Doing great.

Doing great.

Ready to explain.

Ready to explain and describe our event.

All right.

Well, before we get to that, I assume you're a movie fan or TV show fan, as most people, like some form of movies.

Are you familiar with Robert Duvall?

And do you have a favorite Robert Duvall movie?

You know, I didn't I didn't realize there was a You know, the AI generated flashbacks on his career.

I didn't realize that he was honestly in in the godfather You know, when I put when I put two and two together, I would I would say definitely Godfather 100% 100%

can't go wrong with that.

That's a great answer Well, it's great to have you here.

So let's let's jump in.

I love that.

This is your first annual

event or you may have had other derivations of it or whatever.

But regardless, tell us about Run Nina and this Ice to Beer Mile event.

It sounds like an absolute blast.

Yeah, yeah.

So we have a little group about 20 people that run every Thursday from varying locations around Nina.

Every Thursday at six year round.

every year we've been around for about three or four years and every year it seems like we get the next young kid or young you know person that comes in and says you know what we should do a beer mile and then it's after year three it gets the point of you know this is a this is getting to be a common occurrence here you know so we really put a pen to paper and kind of plan this still things to learn after the first

And it kind of was a big collaboration with again, like I said past members You know and then a member that was all Western Wisconsin that would do a snowshoe beer mile on land around a bar and You know that was our that was our whole deal here is you know A school track is probably frowned upon Certainly

during school hours.

Yeah You know city streets same thing, you know, we could go in

you know, other private areas, but then your distance for a circular track kind of get limited for like an out and back or something that way.

It's just not as fun.

So this year, Pearson, our group actually another young kid this year here, he suggested, hey, let's get this going.

What about on the lake?

And I thought, you know, that's kind of a kind of a neutral territory, so to speak.

And then we got we got to thinking and planning, figured we go right offshore and and yeah, that's where it sits.

It's such a great, it sounds like so much fun.

Is it in Oshkosh though, Andy?

It is.

So the tough part is, you know, by us and Nina, we have a very nice park that we run from lion's tail brewing quite often.

That's one of our Thursday runs.

Beautiful park.

There's certainly access there.

But if you know anything about Lake Winnebago, that's pretty much where everything from Puygon flows north.

and then dumps into and starts the Fox River.

So there's a little bit of, I don't want to see current, but ice isn't just good up that way.

Not that we take up a big stretch, but to keep people away from that area, we all kind of figured, let's go south.

And then also, honestly, the location was kind of more directed because I know Carl was on your show.

Carl was Sturgeon Spirits just

recently.

And I thought that'd be neat to have it.

you know, kind of partner with his event, this being the second weekend.

And then again, just the ice was a little bit more consistent up until this weather, but a little bit more consistent down in those parts.

Here's what I love about this event, okay, and what I read it.

At a time in our nation's history, where people are drinking less, even here in Wisconsin, you are leaning into drinking while running.

The race starts, you have to chug a beer.

Drinking rules, one beer before the race starts, after each lap you must stop at the drinking area, chug one full beer, hold the empty can upside down to prove it is finished and a total, you consume a total of four beers.

Can people do it without drinking or is that totally frowned upon?

That's not allowed actually this year.

So as this evolves, we're thinking about doing a relay, so that's another idea so that one guy brought that up.

So you have one person that just is responsible for a beer.

So it's a four person team.

They do their beer, they run and then hand off the empty can, throw it down to the ground.

The next person throws it down to the ground or something like that.

They have to chug theirs and off they go.

We thought about an NA division to your point.

But you know, as of course, if things get kind of closer, you know, then you get the ideas and suggestions and my response is always, well, there's always year two, you know.

I think I read in here somewhere.

Oh yeah, light beer is not in all caps allowed.

It's gotta be 4.5% or greater and any style of beer is accepted.

Cans only, how did you settle on that?

Just easier to recycle or clean up or

what?

Yeah, that's, I mean, the biggest thing on lakes.

I mean, we're gonna be if...

I guess the lake traffic allows it, meaning there aren't going to be a whole bunch of vehicles parked where we're planning to have this course.

I mean, there is a beach there in the summertime.

So just breaking glass, things that we're just trying to be stewards of the area.

Well done.

My guest is Andy Waspin.

He is the event director of this really cool event sponsored by Run Nina, the iced beer mile run.

that takes place at the southern in Oshkosh actually near Lake Winnebago.

So here's another great rule I thought, Andy.

There is a penalty if you puke at any time you must complete one full penalty lap.

Do people puke?

I mean, it's not a ton of beer to take in, but it's in a short time and you are running and it's cold.

What are the ratios there with vomiting?

Well, every race is different.

You know, I just compare it to after if you're an Ask Our Fan, what does the winner do?

He takes the champagne bottle and shakes it up and sprays it all over.

So yes, there definitely is, you know, a strategy to those veterans.

We do have some people coming from the Eau Claire area as part of that snowshoe beer mile.

So I think my mind is going to be blown at the vets or the elites.

You know, they're going to be participating, but certainly there's going to be some releases, some pukes.

I might be bringing the garbage bags for everything and I thought I'm not going to bring any actual barrels.

I'm just going to let all the empties sit on the ice.

I'll pick them up after or we'll pick them up as a group.

As soon as you have barrels, that's where the pukeers go.

I thought we'll just pick up as we go at the

end.

All right.

I appreciate your honesty here.

All right, so four laps are run four beers have to be consumed There is a penalty for puking.

Have you are there records?

Do you keep track?

I mean, this is the first but will you keep track of records or Best times and tell us a little bit about the prizes too

100% so I've I mean obviously the first year you have all kinds of different ideas that are just rolling around your head head

I thought about doing age groups, you know, if this starts to get huge, do age groups.

And, you know, because people don't want to admit their age, maybe we just fill out how many beer cans you are.

So if you're how full the beer can is, or if you're 18 or sorry, 21 to, you know, 21 to 30, you're three quarters of a beer can.

And then you write that in unregistration.

If you're 30 to

50 or whatever that eight, then it's half of a beer can.

And if you're 50 plus, you have a quarter of your can, you know, to signify that age group.

So thought about that, like I said, about different, different categories, different age groups.

You know, yeah, that keeping track of times, it certainly could evolve repeat winners bullseyes on back, you know, for, for the winner from last year.

Right.

I mean, I yeah, it's wild.

It definitely can get wild.

So is it going to be the type of situation where you said you have age groups, like a teenager can participate if their parents are there, like when they're allowed in bars or something like that?

Well, it's funny.

I have a friend of mine that has probably two, like I think they're an eight year old and a five year old.

And they said, can Grant participate in this?

I said, well, you know, it's not that kind of group.

We can maybe get that.

Well, he just wants to run around.

And then, like you had mentioned before, well, I don't know if this is going to be the surface that you're going to want to run

around

on.

Don't

slip in the pew, kid.

OK, so what are the prizes, Andy?

And pardon me, can anybody enter?

Like, if people are listening right now, I'm like, I want to go do this.

How do they find out more info and can they?

Yeah, and some more info is going to be primed.

We have an event on our, I created a public event on our Facebook page.

It's Runnina.

uh, running a group run.

If you search it on Facebook, it should pop up.

Unfortunately, we're a private group because you get, you know, all kinds of spam otherwise.

So you just request, say what the weather was like yesterday.

That's our security, I guess, uh, question.

Uh, we get you in there, but the, the vent, I guess, you know, in general is, is public.

Um, at the time of, of start, we're going to have a simple waiver.

I'm too pretty to be in jail, so not that it would get to that point.

That voice will keep you safe, buddy.

That good voice is good.

You're going to be fine.

But we'll have a QR code that people can scan just to initial and by all means, the more the merrier.

If we get a surplus of people, we might do two different waves, or I don't know that yet.

But right now, I think there's about 15 people.

you know, that are that are going to be attending.

But who knows, there's like 70 some that are that are interested.

So

that's what we're going

to do.

I love it.

So I think what we need to do now, Andy, is get Carl involved.

Carl, he could do spirits like a chug a bottle of vodka and run even farther.

Let's let's make it a puke fest.

Let's see how many pukeers we have.

I agree.

Again, I saw his event, his mobile bar out on the ice last

weekend

and again this weekend.

And that's what really got me thinking about doing it out in Oshkosh in that location.

But they're a mile out, as he mentioned on his event or on his podcast or video here.

I don't wanna, if people aren't comfortable with that.

So we're literally gonna be about 50 yards offshore.

And then to answer your question prizes, we have some really cool laser engraved slate coasters for first, second, and third.

Oh, nice.

So,

yeah.

Well, Andy, this has been a pleasure.

Thank you so much for your time tonight.

I wish you luck with the event.

Put plastic baggies over your shoes just in case you don't wanna hit by errant vomit or whatever, but no, seriously.

Come back again the next time you do this.

I hope you have many more of these, and best of luck with the event.

Good deal, thank you very

much.

All right, that's Andy Wasserman.

Check out the Run Nina Ice Mile Beer Run.

So much fun.

We are coming right back, folks, and I'm gonna tell you about the best capitals in America to live in that's coming up next on Night Light with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.

It's another Kid Rock song.

Somers is finding them all tonight.

Kid Rock or Sinatra?

Welcome back.

This is Nightlight.

I'm Pete Schwab.

Great to have you here, folks, on this Wednesday night.

It really feels like a Monday and also feels like a Thursday, thanks to scheduling issues.

So, glad you're here.

We are talking about the life and the body of work of Robert DeVall.

who passed away the other day at the age of 95 and Left behind such an incredible body of work Matt Harper rock rap artist from Green Bay Answered the question on social media.

He said colors and that's the sign of a great artist too or someone who's just a Titan like Robert Duvall is because I Was thinking of his movies.

I forgot about colors.

I saw that in the theater When it first came out and he and Sean Penn were great

That's a phenomenal movie.

Daniel Thine on social media says so many good ones, but some of them are ones he had really small parts.

The great Santini, he had a big part in that.

To kill a mockingbird, Slingblade, the godfather one and two, falling down, the natural, true grit Jack Reacher, forgot about Jack Reacher too, the judge and apocalypse now.

Great list Dan, thank you.

JB Thompson, the guy behind the guy behind the guy, saw JB this last weekend at the Dork County Film Festival.

Good to hang.

He says, falling down.

Well, you got a lot of movies to catch up on here this summer.

Seriously, I forgot about that.

I don't even know if I knew that.

That was a made for TV movie like in the 90s, maybe or 80s.

I don't think do they do movies like that anymore?

That's crazy Yes Well said Tony on social media Tony Diamond says there are so many but I'm always drawn back to network again, and I forgot he was in that a classic

Ross Bigley says the outfit which I just watched last night.

Thank you Ross.

Yeah, that was a great That was a really fun watch.

I love watching movies how they used to make them or everything isn't like the stakes aren't so crazy high and it takes their time There's no high concept thing happening.

It's just a story being told and that's kind of what's taking place or what took place when I watched the outfit last night Charles Krauss and social media says there are many the most recent and funny movie that I've seen is secondhand lions

So there you go.

Maybe a love connection between Ollie from the Northwoods and Charles.

We've probably paired.

We've probably gotten people together on this show over the last couple years.

George Chambers says to kill a mockingbird.

Great one, George.

And he actually, he didn't have a line, but he was great.

He looks so tortured and troubled as Boo Radley.

That's a great choice.

Daniel Wheeler, Danny Wheeler says, I'm going deep cut.

Buck Weston in kicking and screaming, but he's got balls.

Well said Daniel.

Daniel will be on the show tomorrow night.

Sean Boyce on social media says, I am the great Santini.

Sean is a Marine.

That could be what he's referring to.

Having a little fun with the title.

He says, excellent film adapted from Pat Conroy, the Pat Conroy novel based on his own upbringing in the home of Colonel Don Conroy.

I did not know that.

Thank you, Sean.

And a really good movie actually there's some laughs in there too because he is a kid the great Santini is a character Kind of racist kind of old-school kind of old-fashioned just the toughest nails dad his kids hate him It was a it's a good.

It's a great watch Rich Luccasio our favorite wrestling announcer says THX 1138 Oh Yeah, okay

Thought maybe rich was dropping in a wrestling event there.

We got a call Mike from Muscaday.

That's how you say it.

Hey Mike.

How are you?

How's it going Pete and you guys?

I think true grit was a good Robert DeVall movie and another movie with Always his name Oh Gosh, he's been in so many like you guys say but you know getting back to kid rock

Let me ask you something Pete.

How many albums have you put out?

So don't put down my man.

I'll tell you this.

I haven't put out any albums, but if I do, it will be my own material, Mike.

Is that a good answer?

Did

we lose

Mike?

Oh, there he is.

Are you a fan,

Mike?

A

true Kid

Rock fan?

Go ahead.

Go ahead and give her.

I like Kid Rock and don't put them down.

You guys have a good one

YouTube I appreciate the call.

I respect that he likes kid rock, but I'm still gonna put him down And all I'll say Mike is watch the watch the workout video with Robert Kennedy and listen There's been a couple tunes kid rock his head over the years where I've tapped my foot to remember being on a movie set He's not untalented apparently.

He's a really good musician.

I just don't like his songs Yeah

But that's a great movie choice.

Thank you, Mike.

Matt Cassane on social media says true confessions.

Thank you, Matt.

Derek Fister says days of thunder again.

Tom Cruise forgot he was even in that movie.

Ian MacArthur on social media says the great tender Santini Mercy's Apostle.

He's got them all rolled into one there, but he did win an Oscar for 1983's Tender Mercies.

Thank you, Ian.

Richard Vargas says a tie.

The Great Santini and the Apostle.

You know, I've seen the Apostle.

I was kind of falling asleep in a hotel room one night, so I can't even weigh in on that.

I have to give that a rewatch.

But thank you, Richard.

Jay Campbell says, that is so hard to narrow down because he was prolific and deep.

I'm partial to tender mercies and the Apostle.

I intend to rewatch both of them soon.

Check out Get Low, too.

That was kind of a fun one.

And then Bill on social media says, open range.

Thank you.

I'll keep those coming.

We'll get to the text line stuff in just a bit.

Oh, we got Kristen Lyrely coming up in the next hour, folks.

Lots of fun.

What's your favorite Robert De Niro movie?

That's what we're talking about.

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Broadcasting live statewide from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.

This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba, your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now a guy who washes his hands even after using a towel, Pete Schwabba.

Hey, welcome

back.

Hour number two is underway, ladies and gentlemen.

It is great, great, great to have you here on this rainy, what's it like in Madison's Omers?

Is it raining and gross?

Would it kill you to wear a top hat once in a while?

And spats?

It's so unfair that we're both in Wisconsin.

And this show is on statewide.

And I'm stuck with like 30s and rain and you have beach weather.

How is that possible?

Sounds like a good question for Mace Michaels.

But wherever you're joining us from in Wisconsin, folks, I hope it's sunny and 70, unlike here in Marinette, Wisconsin and Northeast Wisconsin.

Lots of fun tonight.

If you missed hour number one of tonight's show, it is available at civicmedia.us in podcast form.

You can hear my interview with Andy Wassman about a really cool event put on by Run Nina, where you got to chug a beer after every lap.

By the end of the race,

you will chug four beers and have completed four laps.

And where most of the country is leaning toward less alcohol, Ron Nina says, nope, we're going to drink alcohol while we run.

So it sounded like an absolute blast.

It was fun to get to know Andy.

Zomers and I talked a little bit about this very bizarre video put out by Robert Bob Kennedy, Jr.

and Kid Rock.

He's also a junior, I think.

Robert Richie, the third or something like that?

Anyway.

Yeah, they put out a video, a workout video, but they didn't wear workout clothes, and it was very bizarre.

I recommend to Google, because it's kind of funny.

So we got that going, and then, you know, tonight's question, folks.

Zomers, I think we just need to reintroduce.

This is the nightlight question of the night.

Let's talk about the question.

Okay, question.

What is your favorite Robert Duvall movie or role?

He passed away a couple days ago at the tender age of 95 never officially retired from acting, but I don't think he's had I don't think we've seen him on screen since 2022, but he is 95

had a good run, left behind an incredible body of work.

I said the great Santini, but I could have just as easily been talked into the godfather or tender mercies or I know it's I'm not even joking to kill a mockingbird because he looks so tortured even though he didn't have a line.

He was he was good.

It was his first movie role.

So no right or wrong answers, folks.

There are only your answers.

Please be part of the show and let us know at eight five five.

752-4842, 855-75 Civic.

You can also text us on the Civic Media app, which is very easy to use.

Or if you're watching the radio on YouTube, Facebook, or X, Twitter, drop us a stream comment, and I'll read it on the radio.

I did see Zomers on the text line.

Monica from Mount Horrib said she was texting the show while she was in line to see Sean Cassidy, who was, I believe he's playing the Baremort tonight.

And I think he's either in Green Bay tomorrow night or he was there last night but he was so much fun to have on the show and I'm glad that Monica went to see him because I'm sure I Mean his songs will be fun because they were pop songs in the 70s.

I think he's gonna sing some classics like from some of his mom's shows He's got great stories.

I cannot imagine that not being an absolutely phenomenal show So we've got dr. Kristen Lyrely coming up at 635 tonight folks.

She's gonna talk to us a little bit about

Well, fun stuff.

She always talks medical stuff, Zomers, but she also gives us tips like, you know, James Van Der Beek passed away from colon cancer.

So she's gonna stress the, but Kristen always does it in fun ways.

She's just a blast to talk about whether it's medicine, movies, current events, whatever.

She'll be here at 635.

Comedian Steve Gillespie will be here at 720 tonight, telling us all about a really cool show he's put together.

called The Dose Psychedelic Comedy Show.

That's coming to Wisconsin.

Steve has been selling out rooms all over the country.

That's in Act 3 right now.

Very excited to welcome my second guest of the night.

He is an esteemed professor of acting at UW Green Bay, UWGB as I like to call it.

breaking new ground there, and he's also a very fine actor as well.

He joins us over the stream, Mr. Alan Kepeski.

Hey, buddy.

How are you?

Hey, Pete.

Great to see you again.

Good to see you too.

You were in studio last time.

I

was, yeah.

Yeah.

That's always preferable, but given the circumstances, it's just great to have you on the show.

So welcome, sir.

Thank you very much.

I got to tell you, my head is spinning.

with everything you just talked about in the last few minutes, you know?

Beachwear and top hats and, you know, throwing up while you're running Nina and

Kid

Rock Jr.

and-

There

is

gonna be- Oh, Radley.

That's

my favorite.

Oh, Radley.

Is your favorite Duvall roll?

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

That's a great choice.

Killed it with no lines.

Yeah.

And you're

having Kristen Ly early on, who I love.

Yeah.

I don't like her personally, but she's a great radio guest.

So we always like having Kristen on.

No, but you're so right about Duvall with he just looks so tortured in that, you know, he said nothing, but he didn't have to.

It was just it was phenomenal acting.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So all right.

Well, I'm glad we got that out of the way because I was going to ask you that anyway.

But it is good to have you here.

Do you have a you have a show coming up in early April?

Yeah,

April

1st to the 4th Tell

us about

constellations the first to the third and then a matinee on Saturday the fourth

very nice Yeah, it's called constellations.

It's a show that was written by Nick Nick Payne from 2012 so tell us about your production of this show and Yeah, what can you tell us?

Well, it's really exciting.

I call it a meat cute in the multiverse

two people meet up at a barbecue and they seem interested in each other and then we see it play out in different ways in different universes within the multiverse where the circumstances are just a little bit different and so it works out a little bit differently each time

So if you've seen the movie Sliding Doors with Gwyneth Paltrow from years ago, that was kind of a two-way split of universes, whether she made the subway or not.

And here we're splitting into multiple strands.

And so it's a ton of fun as we get to know these people and then get the surprises of the slightly different ways

in which they behave with a slightly different circumstances of where they're at right now.

So it's very funny, but it also brings a ton of heart.

So it's just lots of fun to work on.

It sounds great.

It's a 90 minute one act play, and you've got two actors.

Is that the entire cast?

That's the entire

cast, but I

will

mention that we have two understudies.

Okay.

And so that's not only a good safety for us, but we put them to use throughout the play as well.

Okay.

Okay, a 90 minute one act, that's basically the length of a movie or whatever, and you've got two actors.

Is it hard as a director for pacing purposes?

How do you keep it flowing like that, Alan?

Oh, I think...

First off, it is a big load for the actors.

So this is a big challenge.

I think the folks we have are really up to it.

But I know as an actor, I hate to leave the stage.

I know my energy keeps going while I'm on stage and it's when I go off that I have to kind of recharge to bring it back on.

So I don't worry too much about the pacing.

I think they're in it and their energy remains high the whole time.

At least that's the way it's working so far in rehearsals.

That's great.

So let me ask you this.

You've got like in Green Bay, you've got big shows that come to town.

You've got like Frank Hermans who puts on his own stuff.

Is there a component in Green Bay that is either experimental or people putting on original plays or licensing stuff like you're doing with constellations?

My question is, do people realize

what they have access to through UWGB.

Does the general public come to the shows?

Is it mostly students?

And if they don't, how do you get them to do that?

Because this is fantastic.

Yeah, I do think that we're a little bit of an undiscovered gem for some people.

We do get a lot of students and a lot of the campus community comes.

I would love to see more people.

We get alumni who come.

We have some fans.

We have developed over the years.

But yeah, I don't know if the general theater going public in Green Bay really has an idea of the kind of, I don't know if I want to say experimental necessarily, but really interesting cutting edge kinds of plays.

And we have very talented design faculty.

doing really exciting things.

This play in particular gives some great opportunities.

So the two characters are a beekeeper and a quantum cosmologist.

And so with the multiverse and the quantum cosmologist, there's tons of cool space stuff going on.

There's

some interesting bee stuff going on.

Because we are shifting in space time from universe to universe, it gives the designers free reign to do some really exciting things.

That's so great.

And I totally agree with you, like in terms of getting the general public to take advantage of this.

Like, yeah, it's a college and I think it just might be off some people's radar.

Not just UWGB, but in general.

It's like, oh, well, that's a college.

Well, they're putting on a great show and oftentimes award-winning shows.

I just would love to see more people from the general public go.

And what do people like Alan, when they leave UWGB and they've studied theater?

Do most people Pursue it when they leave?

I know my daughters at UW Stevens Point and you've got people from their musical theater program They want to go be in shows.

I'm sure people at UW GB do too.

But what is their path typically when they leave?

Yeah, you know, we've got We've got a lot of folks who get out there and get work especially in the technical field And we have others who are

off to grad school and then teaching.

We have others who are touring.

I have one student who's been out on cruise ships and and students doing Disney.

There's all sorts of different paths.

It depends on what your interests are, but

we've

had a lot of success from our grads.

Let's pick up right there.

We're going to do a very short break.

Alan Kapishki is here.

He is a theater professor from UWGB.

He's got great acting talent, credits of his own too.

We'll talk to him about that when we come back.

This is Pete Schwabba at Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

All right, welcome back.

This is Nightlight.

I'm Pete Schwab.

Great to have you here.

Spookster86 on the stream says Days of Thunder is his favorite Duval movie.

It's Top Gun Adjacent.

That's fair.

And he says, get your colonoscopy, folks.

Great warning.

Thank you, Spookster.

I'm a little behind on my latest one.

Maybe that's too much information I'm putting out there, Alan.

I don't know.

A little behind.

pun intended.

Alan Kibisky is here, folks.

He is a theater professor at UWGB and an actor as well.

His show Constellations runs April 1st through the 3rd, 7.30 p.m., and Saturday, April 4th at 2 p.m.

at the Jane Weidner Theater at the Weidner Center on UWGB's campus.

Check that out and take advantage of theater right in Green Bay.

It's not just for college kids, folks.

Check out this great production.

Alan is the director.

And it sounds like an absolute blast.

Let me ask you something, Alan.

You have the opportunity to mold lives, shape these kids.

We talked a little bit about what they do when they leave.

I always have this issue because sometimes I've talked to kids in grade school or high school about careers.

And if they were interested in show business, I was the guy that nobody asked a question to in Wisconsin after the firemen and the lawyer and the doctor.

Everybody that comes up to me and says, everyone says I should have a fallback.

And I kind of disagree with that.

I feel like if you're going to go be an actor or a dancer or a set decorator, whatever it is, why would you take two to four hours a day away from your passion and getting better at it to set yourself up for failure?

Am I wrong there?

In

my experience, if you need a fallback, your fallback will come find you.

Correct.

You go pursue what?

you are passionate about, and that may end up leading you in other directions, adjacent or parallel.

But yeah, I don't think saying, oh yeah, I gotta get this business degree or this engineering minor or whatever, just in case.

No, I think you gotta pursue what interests you and that will lead you

Maybe to engineering but it by a different path and by a way that that follows your passion

I totally agree with you and you can you know try it until you're 29 and go back to school You're still young you got the whole if if things don't work out But you're right and a lot of people I know found their way in other avenues They went into casting or you know catering or set truck driving and carpentry work on sets and that kind of stuff

So you might decide you're an accountant, but you want to be an accountant for a film production company?

Yeah

Exactly.

Great.

Absolutely.

Before we let you go, I want to ask you, you've got two credits I'm curious about.

I want to ask you about on your IMDB page.

One is Feed the Fish with Tony Shalub,

which I believe

was shot in Green Bay.

Would love to hear what your experience was like on that.

And then you did a Walker, Texas Ranger.

I would love to know if you got on Chuck Norris's bad side.

So

you can

start wherever you want.

Okay.

So Feed the Fish was mostly actually shot in Dork County.

The chelou family has some property up there, and so my wife was the costume designer for it, and I had a very small role.

I went hunting with Michael Mathsdorf, the director, and Tony Chelou's character yelled at us, and Michael accidentally shot me in the crotch.

So I had a great, pained pratfall.

uh in there and and and then i got rolled away on a gurney so that was that was my big moment in that but memorable

yeah that's great

that was a lot of fun sure walker texas ranger was a blast i had a really nice guest star role i was basically a bill gates character um and so actually i was i was a victim mitch pelogy uh who was the the um the boss of

Mully and Skulder on the X-Files.

Yeah, sure.

He was the main bad guy.

And they were robbing me and my party guests.

So I did get punched by one of the bad guys.

Oh, sweet.

So got to work with the stunt men and stunt ensemble on that.

And actually Chuck told me, after that scene, he said, you take a good punch.

So I want that on my gravestone.

Yeah, from his mouth itself.

I would

assume he's taken a few too, so that's probably high praise.

Alan, thank you so much for being here tonight.

Good luck with constellations.

Maybe the wife and I will get a nutty night out of the tunnel.

We'll come down and see it.

I would love to

see the facilities and the production and everything.

It sounds great, so I appreciate you coming on and break a leg, my friend.

Thanks so much.

Thanks for having me on, Pete.

You got it.

All right, that's Alan Kepesky.

Check out constellations.

at the Jane Weidner Theater at the Weidner Center on UWGV's campus.

April 1st through the 3rd, and then there's a matinee on the 4th too.

Sounds like a great show.

Zomers, I would ask you if you're going, but you already bailed on the Door County Film Festival last week, so I'm not gonna hold you to anything.

Are you one of those guys that's like, hey, you wanna do something Friday?

Who's gonna be there?

Exactly.

Waiting to see what better plants materialize.

Right.

I'm just saying you hardly ever hang out with me and my wife.

Just consider it.

That's all I'm saying.

Well, that's because you always bail.

All right, we've got Kristen Lyrely coming up after the news at 635.

Let's get a couple of texts out of the way here.

Ollie from the Northwoods.

Oh, she's doing a ruse here.

It says this is actually Lori from Hayward, maybe on Ollie's phone, and says, a Robert Duvall show I really enjoyed was watching the series Lonesome Dove.

Never watched that, but that had a nice run on network color television.

In the 608, all Duval movies, true grit.

You can score one point by returning a blocked extra point That would make the score six to one.

I make heads or tails of that He's doing the beer run he just chugged a beer all right We're coming back with dr. Kristen Lyrely after news sports and weather great to have you here folks.

It's peach wabba and nightlife

That's me.

All right Welcome back folks.

I am Pete Schwabba.

This is nightlight and that is also not a Kid Rock song Zomers is spinning the tunes tonight and having fun with that.

Welcome back glad you're with me folks This is a Wednesday that feels like a Monday, but it's kind of like a Thursday because of our crazy week this week But nonetheless, we are here talking about the things in life that make us happy and One of the people that makes me happy is my next guest.

She does great work

She's one of my favorite guests or people for that matter.

She's a highly respected OBGYN.

A proud boy mom, and she also has her own show here on Civic Media called the Dr. Kristen Lyrely Show.

You probably guessed who it is.

It's my pleasure to welcome Dr. Kristen Lyrely.

Welcome, my friend.

Hey, how you doing, Pete?

To clarify, I'm also an OBGYN, but not highly

respected.

No, no, no, you are not.

In fact,

I'm wholly

respected.

I was very impressed that you ran the lube promo because it's important.

People need to know about lube.

Well, Pete right now is silent.

No,

I'm just I know people don't who doesn't know about lube.

Many people.

Many people have many questions and they are very like reluctant to ask those questions.

You got to build trust before people will come out with these because, you know, we've been taught.

in life, not to talk about things like sex, but if you talk about it and you get good information, it's so much better.

And listen, it's safer.

I'm going to go out on a limb here.

Again?

I

think sex is really neat.

Wait till the line goes down and then go ask the pharmacist.

I didn't know people had an issue with lube.

I thought it was kind of a everyday thing now.

No, people have issues with some of the, it's so personal.

Like some people have issues with some things that you would just be like, really?

I mean, kind of like you with lube right now, I guess.

It's just like really personal based on your own experience.

And that's why we all need access to a healthcare provider who can help us answer our

questions.

And you're certainly that.

Zomers, did you have something?

Yeah, yeah exactly and I listen I'm you know I know a couple times when you've been on this show and the thing what we did with Conrad I was a little bit you know like Taking it back because you were talking about Lou but this convention and I thought oh it's that's like something with babies or whatever and then you kind of You know drop that that bomb and it was very

funny, but I'm

saying

I don't care like I'm I'm very pro all of it look I wear a condom every day just in case I don't leave the house without wearing one I have lube in the car I'm ready it never happens and but I'm not expecting it to so that's why that's a win

lube that you have in the car is different Pete

oh really oh seriously

Yeah, but Karloob is different than your personal lubricants.

See?

See, there are questions.

That explains the confused look when I say, give me some astroglide on those lug nuts.

Listen to your dropping names, Pete Schwabba.

Listen, I'm a freeloader.

You think Pete is a mild-mannered guy, but...

No, no, no.

Listen, I'm not.

I don't pretend to be anybody.

I will say...

This is, you know, what I'm fascinated about is the position of lactation consultant.

Because

this was not offered as a major when I was in college.

I would have been the best damn lactation consultant in the world.

No.

There only note the professor would have been able to say to me is try not to smile so much, Mr. Schwabba.

liking boobs does not make you a good lactation consultant.

It is actually a really, really important job because everybody, so you probably can't relate to this, but I will tell you, and this is in all seriousness, when people have babies, it's often a conflict that people have like, am I going to be able to breastfeed?

Should I breastfeed?

Do I want to breastfeed?

Because it's a huge commitment.

So having a lactation consultant who can answer your questions and make sure that you have, if you want to do this, that you have the best shot at it, that you have

somebody there to answer your questions because really if you can breastfeed and it's the right thing for you that's great it's cheap it's easy but it requires a lot from the mom so I love my lactation consultant so don't joke about them

well I joke about everything but I'm not I'm just saying I didn't know and here's the other thing I didn't know it was going to be a challenge because we had kids we were committed to trying to breastfeeding and

You know, I realized when the woman came in, I'm like, you're what?

You're a lactation consultant?

Like we have an assist here?

And then,

you

know, the joke in my act used to go, and then she grabs my wife's boob to help her.

And she's

like, but she looked at me, Kristen, and she said, may I?

And I was like, yeah, why don't I hold the baby and dim the lights?

And you got, you know, so I didn't.

But you're absolutely right.

It is a challenge.

It doesn't happen for everybody.

So it is good that that position exists, for sure.

And there's guilt, you know, like if you want a breastfeed and you feel like you're supposed to breastfeed, but it's not working, there's this whole emotional thing that happens that goes along with it.

So yeah, it's not just about boobs.

No, it's not.

Kristen Lyrely is here, folks.

Dr. Kristen Lyrely, she is dispensing medical advice whether we want it or not.

She does

not believe

I have the, I'm not an OBGYN, not even in a freelance capacity.

Before we move on, Kristen, because we do have a lot to talk about, let's get the medical stuff out of the way, because you said, when we texted earlier, you wanted to say something about colon cancer in James Vanderbeek, and you know, this is one of those things, and I admit, I've been late to, I have this thing about anesthetics.

I don't like to go under.

So I

know that.

Yeah, it scares me, and I don't.

I'm not worried about the procedure or anything.

I'm sure there's lube involved, but I'm scared to go under.

What do you tell people about that?

Whatever you do, whether you choose to have a colonoscopy, which is the recommended screening starting around age 45, unless you have risk factors, and we'll talk about that in a minute, but age 45 is the standard.

If you can get a colonoscopy, if that sits well with you, great.

Do that.

If you can't, there are other tests that you can do to screen for colon cancer.

So there's a box.

You can poop in a box, Pete, and send it through UPS.

back to the factory, and it will look for any signs of colon cancer.

That's a really good test.

And then you don't have to go through the anxiety and everything of the colonoscopy.

But to be clear, the colonoscopy is the gold standard.

So if you can't do that, that is the best alternative.

I just want to clear something up.

You said it doesn't sit well during a colonoscopy to clarify.

As soon as I said that, I knew it was