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The Kinky Side of Madison with Rob Thomas (Hour 1)
Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Wed Feb 11, 2026
I'm not excited about it, but hey, I just had something happen to me right before the show.
With this make you suspicious, I was on hold.
And the song faded out, and right as it faded out, the customer service rep came on.
That's the third time in a row that's happened to me over the last like week.
And it makes me think
That's why you know, it could be the Illuminati it could be something going on in the stars I don't know.
It's really strange because usually typically anyway three times in a row That's weird and people pick up right in the middle of a good song or or elevated music whatever it is But this is the third time in a row.
It was like a perfect fade.
It was like a radio show or something.
It was insanity but
it is what it is hey happy okay folks this is our last live show before valentine's day so let's celebrate the holiday of love uh zomers what are your plans for for valentine's day if you have any
Most likely stay home and watch a couple of movies don't know if they'll be romance or otherwise But I've had some long days this week and it'll be nice to just take a load off and relax and I have no responsibilities to attend to on relation or in terms of relationships So I am a free man on Saturday
Well, you know what?
There you go.
It got like a 4% in Rotten Span.
It's Gary Marshall.
It's a Hollywood titan who made this movie.
Good cast, but it was one of those movies like they tried to throw it together and they thought thematically, well, it's Valentine's Day.
Let's make a movie called Valentine's Day and it is a clunker.
So I would recommend to people, all the lovers out there, go with like a Groundhog Day, a Win-Harry-Met Sally, something about Mary, if you will.
something along those lines that have some laughs and don't take themselves too seriously.
But I really don't.
I'll be in Dirk County for Valentine's Day, which is a great place to be for Valentine's Day.
My wife will be with me.
Maybe we'll hang out a little bit.
I don't know.
Maybe our paths will cross.
We'll have to see.
But I'll be watching some movies.
But this is our last show.
before Valentine's Day live show.
So get your thoughts in on Valentine's Day, folks, if you want.
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Did you have a good day, Mr. Zomers?
Yeah, they're both good I feel like Culver's does beat them out, but it's also just different
You know everyone talks about what's the best fast food?
What's the best burger and you know as long once you hit a certain threshold Most of them are pretty good and they're just different
I love daddy dumplings I but Muya is I was fixated on Muya for like two years in a row whenever I would wrap up at PBS I would go right to Muya and eat.
I love their burgers.
I love their fries
And I compare it, I would say, of the national chains, I would go Shake Shack or there.
I like Shake Shack's fries.
And yeah, and I think Culver's just kind of does everything pretty well.
But I don't know if I'd put the burgers over Muya.
And speaking of burgers, that's a perfect transition because, folks, if you don't subscribe to the Civic Media newsletter, you should absolutely do it.
Great stuff.
And today I saw an article by our pal, Joanne Krulatz and Adam Hess, who was a recent night like guest, had a lot of fun with Adam.
They wrote this article, the Wisconsin Beef Council.
is kicking off their third annual Wisconsin's Best Burger Contest this Friday, Friday the 13th.
The council is on a mission to find and celebrate the most mouthwatering 100% beef burgers in Wisconsin restaurants, bars, and or grills.
So everyone has a spot they like.
The first two years of the contest, they say, sparked a burger frenzy across the state with the elite eight finalists enjoying a surge in burger sales and statewide fame.
So if your burger makes this list, it's great for business.
But starting Friday through Sunday, March 15th, you can nominate your favorite beef burger from any Wisconsin restaurant on the Wisconsin Beef Council website.
It's beeftips.com slash best burger.
Sounds like you would go with Culver's.
I've had one They're very good.
It's just over there in Atwood dynamite burgers and it's
I don't know if it gives you bad breath or not, but I was a big fan.
So that's one, or Dottie Dumplings.
They got great burgers.
Are you eating there, right?
I have not.
Oh, dude.
I'll tell you, here's what we'll do.
Sometime in the next couple of days, you mosey over to Dottie Dumplings.
Get yourself a burger.
If you don't like it, Civic Media will pay for it.
What is this expense here?
This $20 hamburger?
No, but I do highly recommend it.
Donny Dumplings is great.
So get in on the fun, folks.
We've also had Paul Vanden Plaus in the show who created the platform, Wonderfully Wisconsin.
And he is doing a list of 100 burgers around the state.
He's at like number 23.
We got to be patient.
It's going to take him a while, but very excited to see what he comes up with.
And why not take your Valentine's Day for a nice hamburger this weekend?
Great stuff.
All right, without further ado, folks, I think we need to get to our civic media, our nightlight question of the night.
Let's talk about the question.
Okay,
What is your favorite?
Winter Olympic sport.
I struggled with this one.
Can I tell you the alternate question, Summers?
What was the alternate question?
All right.
I struggled with this because I really wanted to ask, but I didn't want people to run from the airwaves either.
About a year ago, I read this article where Alec Baldwin and his wife, I can't remember her name, they have that reality show.
It's terrible.
went to see her ex-boyfriend in a play on Broadway.
During the play, her ex-boyfriend had to be nude.
And Alex Baldwin commented that this guy, he said it looked like there was a clarinet between the guy's legs.
I assume
But I toyed with the idea a year ago of making this question, what musical instrument best describes your private parts?
Weirdly enough, mine would be a triangle.
I don't even want to explain that.
But I thought that could be a fun question of the night.
I just, I haven't been able to pull the trigger for the last year.
So I thought, you
If we get some response, if people liked that question, maybe we'll use it next week.
But tonight's question of the week, of the night is what is your favorite winter Olympic sport?
And you and I talked a little bit about this, but it was not a question of the night.
I think downhill, I think the ski jump is my favorite.
It is very
Of course, but still, it's a scary thing, man, to be up that high.
I don't know.
Kind of scared of heights anyway, so maybe it's not my thing.
So let us know, folks.
What is your favorite winter Olympic sport?
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We've got a lot of great talk coming your way tonight.
My guests.
are the great Rob Thomas and I was standing film critic who is a regular
One of our nightlight best friends.
He will be here.
He's also the city cast at Madison newsletter editor We'll talk a little Valentine's Day with Rob and some movies then my pal Greg Bach will be here.
I was a guest on Greg show civic media mid mornings today So we're kind of doing a little swamp thing.
He's coming on my show tonight We'll have a great discussion with Greg and then two filmmakers will join us in hour number three who have a music video playing at the Dora County Film Festival Dora County Film Festival is right around the corner.
Check it out this week
and folks, I will be there and I cannot wait.
You gonna try to stop by over there, Azamers?
If I can.
It's a bit of a hike for you.
I'm trying to.
Welcome back, folks.
I'm Pete Schwabber.
This is Night Light.
Great to have you here on this Wednesday.
The Wednesday before Valentine's Day, our last live show.
The next couple nights I have off, I will be at the Dork County Film Festival.
And we'll have some great hot shows for you guys.
So definitely still tune in.
Tim Baker on social media says downhill skiing is his favorite winter Olympic sport.
That's our question of the night.
Mike Desitel on Facebook says curling because I imagine the competitors sweeping their kitchen floors like that.
I think they're that intense.
I don't
And I will say the other night we were kind of having fun with curling and I kind of made the same joke Mike made about sweeping.
But last night when I was at the gym, I was watching it.
I was getting into it and
you know, it's pretty amazing how they can make it just go around the other curling mechanism.
I don't know what it's called, but it's a science it looks like and it's pretty cool.
So tip of my hat to the curlers.
Aaron, you might be upset to realize that we did not make, Wisconsin did not make the list of romantic states put out by DoorDash, sadly.
So.
Come on.
Folks, we've got news, sports, and weather coming up in five minutes.
Don't go anywhere.
Rob Thomas after that.
I did find this list.
This is from DoorDash.
It says, the most romantic state is Delaware.
The people there ordered the most flowers, chocolates, plushies.
balloons during the week of Valentine's Day last year.
Maryland is the second most romantic followed by Rhode Island, Ohio, Michigan, Virginia, Indiana, Indiana, Missouri, Nevada, and North Carolina.
So in the most intimate state, you ready for this?
Nevada.
The people there ordered the most intimate stuff around Valentine's Day like condoms, lubricants, and adult toys.
I find that really fun.
Like that's a huge discrepancy between flowers and balloons and then Another state where they just order the most sex toys like that's so different Right.
No, I'm with you 100% now I'm told anyway when you order something like that in the box It doesn't say you know John's dildo factory or something in the return address they do kind of You know, they're a little discreet about it.
So that should make you feel better.
You've heard but I've heard yeah, that's what my friends told me and then the other states that were runners up for the most intimate states where they order things like kind of lubricants and adult toys Maryland Rhode Island Ohio, which was also on the romantic list
We're next on the list.
The rest of the top 10 is Utah.
Go figure.
Delaware, Arizona, Virginia, Massachusetts, and Michigan.
There's also normal meal delivery.
Dordish says Valentine's Day has been the number one day of the entire year for premium restaurant orders, including lobsters, scallops, steak, oysters, and sushi.
There's nothing wrong with staying in.
I think on Valentine's Day, I'd rather go out.
and just get out of the house and have that kind of food rather than have it, you're probably gonna pay double if you order lobster through DoorDash.
And we have this other thing.
This happened the other day, a guy during the Olympics.
Did you see this?
I sent this to you.
Sturla Holm LeGrade from Norway took home a bronze medal in the biathlon.
And that's obviously combines cross-country skiing and shooting.
But he says he didn't enjoy it because he was heartbroken.
Instead of celebrating, he made a crazy confession in front of the entire world.
He said, quote, there is someone I wanted to share this with who might not be watching today.
Six months ago, I met the love of my life, the most beautiful and kindest person in the world.
Three months ago, I made the biggest mistake of my life and was unfaithful.
And I told her about it a week ago.
A week before the Olympics, this guy spills his guts to the love of his life.
And he says, this has been the worst week of my life.
He's still got a bronze medal, pretty good.
He says, I had the gold medal.
I had the gold medal in life, and I am sure there are many people who will see things differently, but I only have eyes for her.
Sport has come second these last few days, or third in his case with the bronze medal.
Yes, I wish I could share this with her.
Is that sweet or crazy?
Why do you say something?
You've already cheated.
Why are you saying something a week before the Olympics?
I mean the guy's pouring his heart out in front of the world give him some credit I mean whatever he cheated okay I get that.
Lots to pick apart there.
Maybe we'll ask Rob Thomas.
He had some great articles about Valentine's Day in Madison.
We'll talk to him about that in movies.
That's coming up after news, sports, and weather coming your way.
This is Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.
More 90s music Bombers is on a 90s music kick.
Is that because the last
I'm doing great.
How about yourself?
Doing very well.
Thanks.
I wanted to tell you too, I just read the most romantic states from this list I found.
I think it was Mashable.
Wisconsin is not in the top 10.
for intimacy or romance.
And I don't know, I kind of, I responded, I took that news harder than I thought I would.
We were talking about that too.
I don't... Here's my issue.
We had this conversation the other night about figure skating or gymnastics, like those scores where people do a number.
And I think it's so much easier to get behind sports or events where there's a winner.
You know, someone breaks the tape or whatever.
Those scores where they judge them with numbers drive me bananas.
And I like, is it called the biathlon?
Just because somebody posts on social media, it's like, oh, I see you just skied from five miles.
Here's a gun.
This is so random to put those two things together.
So bizarre.
Yeah.
But even like cross-country skiing, like I remember watching a cross-country skiing race and it was like the most exciting thing ever.
And I don't think of cross-country skiing is particularly exciting, but like, yeah, I just, yeah, I'm
He's like, it's like the weirdest combination.
It's like swimming and strangle a guy.
So I'm with you.
All right.
You have big plans for Valentine's Day, Rob.
I know you guys covered this in CityCast Madison.
You had a couple of great articles about Valentine's Day in Madison.
Is it worth a trip to our state's capital?
I usually steer wheel clear of like restaurants on Valentine's Day just because a it's gonna be really busy B usually it's a lot more expensive.
So we're gonna go out Friday night.
I think nice, but like the thing I wrote for CityCast Madison was what to do on Valentine's Day if you hate Valentine's Day because there's a lot of people who Legitimately, you know, that's a holiday that you know, you want to steer clear of and
What I thought was funny is there's so many anti-Valentine's day things going on in Madison like there's a Karaoke at the bar called the Rigby that's exclusively breakup songs So you could like sing Adele someone like me or you know or whatever love love stinks probably by a Jay Giles band.
Yeah
one I do There was you know a comedy show where people talk about their worst dates which sounds great because that's always great comedy fuel
And then there's a Valentine's Day thing at Garver Feed Mill, which is an anti-Valentine's Day necessarily, but it's like an armored combat tournament where like, I guess, this is all new to me, but I guess cities will have these clubs where people dress up in armor and like fight each other.
Oh, really?
And it was called Love is a Battlefield, of course, this tournament.
But I thought that was so funny to have that on Valentine's Day.
I guess people get down there aggression.
So that's, I'm sure they do it for that, but like, you know, I went to Antarctica and they did a Polar Plunge down there, Southern Polar Plunge.
And a lot of people did it, and they were like, that was horrible.
That hurt so much.
And then they
So the one more I wanted to talk to you, the other one I wanted to talk to you about was Best Date, Worst Date, another comedy, a comedy, I mean, how could you do better on Valentine's Day at the Forward Club on Valentine's Day?
Best date or state tell us about that.
Well, yeah, again, it's it's comedians kind of like the other one you mentioned where being interviewed about Like the best date they ever had or the worst day they ever had I would imagine there's more comedy Out of the worst date, but like I you're right.
I mean if you take
a first date to that thing.
I mean, that's a pretty low bar to clear.
Unless the community comes back next year and tells their worst date was the one they went to the year before.
But that's at the forward club at Bree Stevens Field.
Capital, it's a pretty, you know, family-friendly place, lots of nice restaurants and nice, you know, outdoorsy things to do, and that was all true in the 70s, but they're also like, there was like a red light district, kind of where King Street is now, the first settlement district, and they were...
topless bars and massage parlors and all that stuff.
And it's just a completely different world than what it is now.
And so, you know, and now there's a, there's a much more sex positive kink scene in Madison, like the crucibles part of that.
But it was kind of fun to just kind of dive into some of those old headlines and, and ads too that would run in the,
kind of ground zero for the the LGBT scene in Madison for a lot of years and like it was you know a place where a lot of the activism came from but also after they would you know march in the streets they go back there and party and so I think that place lives on in places like the Cardinal Bar and other places around town that are that are you know kind of keeping that spirit alive.
Like, I kind of remember these times, but you're talking about King Street, and it had its own porn shop, and the streets were full of sex workers and their customers.
And I remember being here in Marinette, and every once in a while, someone's dad would get busted in medicine.
They made the local paper, you know?
That's a good question.
I don't know.
I mean, you know, the...
the city's been so gentrified.
I mean, it was before my time when I got here in the late 90s.
So I feel like the 80s was a time when maybe there's a cultural conservatism that kind of cracked down on those things.
But yeah, it's an interesting history.
It is.
I'm like, eh, where did all that stuff go?
Right.
So by the time we get to be adults, we don't have access, which I think is kind of unfair.
Rob Thomas is here, folks.
He's the CityCast Madison newsletter editor.
He does a great job there.
We're talking about some of his articles here regarding Valentine's Day and check it out.
You'll get some great suggestions, restaurants, wherever.
He is also an outstanding film critic.
And Rob, we've got a lot to talk about, but let's, before the break,
You started watching the Burbs.
You beat me to it and you bailed already.
Tell us about the Burbs.
About, you know, this this seemingly tranquil suburban.
neighborhood and there's this weird house and Joe Dante I think directed it the guy who did gremlins oh yeah yeah good movie as I recall but but yeah I just didn't the peacock series just doesn't really live up at Kiki Palmer who I love stars in it but oh yeah kind of right off the bat I just kind of bounced off it
Do
Rob Thomas is here.
We will take a very short break.
We'll come back and talk some movies.
Gary chimed in again on the text line in the 608.
He says, in the basement of the dangle lounge were old meat lockers from a late 19th century Norwegian grocery store.
The women used them for changing rooms.
That sounds like a class joint.
That's wild.
That is insane.
All right.
We are coming back to talk movies.
Aaron Zommer is working the board tonight.
And we're gonna come back and talk some movies.
We've got an hour number two.
Greg Bach will be here and then in act three, Mariah Kohler from the Dore County Film Festival.
She is a director of a music video.
We'll talk to her about that.
It's all coming up tonight.
Glad you're here, folks.
This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.
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There's nothing romantic about that, folks.
Be part of the show.
Our question of the night is, what is your favorite winter Olympic sport?
And since just to piggyback off of Gary's text, Rob, my question I thought about was, I read this about a year ago.
Alec Baldwin went to a Broadway show with his girlfriend.
or I'm sorry his wife who dated a guy who was in the show who appeared nude and apparently was uh looked pretty good naked and Alec Baldwin said that it looked like there was a clarinet between his legs
that got me thinking my question was going to be what musical instrument best describes your private parts and I said a triangle you know there you're under no obligation to weigh in here but I just thought it was a funny question interesting I'll have to think about
Yeah, give it some thought.
Could be a gizoo if it makes funny noises.
That's one too.
Just have some fun with it.
Rob Thomas is here folks.
Madison based film critic and the CityCast Madison newsletter editor.
We talked Valentine's Day last segment with Rob.
We've moved on to movies.
Okay, so Rob, I want to start with crime 101.
I've kind of been tracking this movie.
I'm very excited about it.
And I loved Mark Ruffalo, native Wisconsinite in the movie Collateral as Ray Fanning, a detective who was just gritty and cool.
And I hope he's a little older now, but I hope he's as good in Crime 101.
And I hope it's a good movie.
The reviews seem OK.
But you wrote about it, too.
Tell us what your thoughts were.
He's sort of a pariah in the department.
He's going through a divorce.
He's like...
He's taking up yoga to try and turn his life around.
But he's also a very good detective and he's the only one who realizes that this one jewel thief played by Chris Hemsworth is responsible for a whole rash of similar heists along the one-on-one freeway.
LA, that's crime 101.
And so a lot of the film is sort of cat and mouse between the two of them.
Halle Berry is kind of in the middle.
She's playing an insurance agent who's getting tired of ensuring all these billionaire sleazeballs for their
For their riches and and it's kind of looking maybe to make some riches herself and then Barry Keegan Plays this sort of loose cannon rival thief to Chris Hemsworth character who was trying to muscle in on his action and so It remind me a lot of heat the Michael Mann movie Okay, not as good but but really stacked cast some great car chases like I mean like I
in the tank for any movie that uses real cars on real roads and, you know, and they're both, it's really good.
It's really fun to watch.
And it just uses Los Angeles really well, like the locations a day and night.
You know, I mean, I was held through the whole thing.
It runs about 135 minutes.
I know my wife went and she was a little more mass.
She thought it'd be a little more of a straight up action movie.
But like, it did remind me of just like a nice, slow, immersive crime thriller where you're just kind of held in its grip for the whole time.
And so I do recommend it quite a bit.
Wow.
Yeah, it's not my
Yes.
And that doesn't surprise me.
It's a total bro movie.
There you go.
Yeah.
Well, good.
I'm excited to see Crime 101.
Let's see if we can, can we keep you after the break up for a few minutes, Rob?
Yeah, absolutely.
Keep talking.
Okay.
You have not seen the rip.
Let's, let's go Anaconda, because you talked about it last time you were here.
And we just got a couple of minutes.
I enjoyed it.
I mean, I didn't know what to expect.
The reviews were mediocre, but the bar was low when I went in, and I got a few laughs.
I will admit, and it's probably on streaming by now, at least VOD, I think.
But my bar was on the floor.
My bar was lower than Snake's belly, to quote Anaconda.
But I thought I did have some.
We laugh quite a few times with that movie and it was a good mix of like kind of like a monster movie kind of a Hollywood satire because the premise is that they're doing an unauthorized reboot of the 1997 film Anaconda and you know, I like Paul Rudd and I like Jack Black.
It was nice to see Jack Black in a movie that's not a kid's movie after the Minecraft movie and the Super Mario Brothers movie and Kung Fu Panda.
And just and the the funny thing is they're sort of switching roles because Jack Black plays the kind of grounded family man and Paul
Yeah, that was probably the best set piece of the film.
All right, Rob Thomas is here, folks.
Madison Film Critic.
We're going to get into some more films.
Some great ones opening this weekend that I want to ask Rob about.
And we'll do all that after the break.
We got Door County Film Festival talk coming up on hour three.
And Greg Bach coming up at the bottom of act two.
Lots going on here, glad you're here.
It's Pete Schwabba at Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.
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