On Making Music Videos with Moriah Koehler (Hour 3)

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On Making Music Videos with Moriah Koehler (Hour 3)

Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba · Wed Feb 11, 2026

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Pete Schwabba.

Welcome back.

Pete Schwaba

I gotta go.

I gotta go.

I feel like a frog in my throat for a month.

What am I supposed to do about that?

You're a tech guy.

Is there anything you can prescribe?

Um, I don't know.

What do frogs like?

You tried, uh, starting a little, uh, I can't think of the word, like not a.

Is it a vivarium or something?

I don't know.

Start

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a fry

farm and just hold your mouth over it.

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I've tried everything, buddy.

No, it's one of those lingering things like everybody's got it.

Everybody that gets it, it lasts longer.

I thought it was better two weeks ago and I feel fine, but I keep like it's crazy.

So my primary care physician put me on a steroid, which I haven't taken yet because I just don't want to take it if I don't have to.

But if said frog does not

Release him or herself from my throat.

I'm gonna take a steroid.

I'd have to you know, I I myself anytime I've had to take a steroid for legally prescribed medical reasons I Hated it.

It was awful kept me up all night Yes, I was tired, but also had this weird energy in my core that I like couldn't sleep.

It was it was terrible

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Yeah, my daughter was on it when she was home for Christmas break She didn't sleep for like five nights in a row and she'd fall asleep at seven in the morning for like two hours Yeah, so it's it's not a good thing.

Hey, welcome back tonight late folks.

This has been medical talk with Pete and Aaron We are jamming through this Wednesday night show our last live show of the week We will have highlight shows the next couple days, but this is our last live show before Valentine's Day

And then I'll be off the first couple nights of next week, too.

I'm going to be at the Dora County Film Festival for a few days.

We'll be back live next Wednesday night.

So you won't miss anything.

There's some great interviews.

I think we're going to replay our Seth Wickersham interview, Aaron.

Yeah, we

got that.

We got David Kogirish, the editor of Film Comment and

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host their podcast.

Yeah, she

was great.

And a bunch of other stuff, too.

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You know, I had Seth Wickersham from ESPN on the show.

And he was so much fun to talk to.

And I love the NFL.

That's my sport I've chosen to follow because there's only 16, well now 17 games and it's not as consuming as like an 82 game NBA season or 162 baseball game season.

But Seth was great and almost like within minutes after he was off the show, he broke the story about Bill Belichick not getting into the Hall of Fame.

So in a perfect world, Aaron, he would have broke that story on Nightlight.

We got to get some more street cred.

Yeah, you know, you've got your foot in the door with him now.

Maybe eventually you can build up that trust and that kind of relationship to get those stories.

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It's his first time on the show.

We'll get there.

He was a great guy.

So anyway, we'll have the fun shows the next couple nights.

It is great to have you here, folks.

If you missed hour one, we had Rob Thomas on the show, Madison film critic and city cast Madison newsletter editor.

Always love talking to Rob.

Great times.

We talked about several movies.

There are some really good movies opening this weekend.

A nice variety of films, kid movies, thrillers, caper films.

They're all opening this weekend and most of them are reviewing really well.

So we talked about a few of those with Rob.

Definitely check that out.

Pardon me, in podcast form at civicmedia.us.

and Rob stuck with us a little bit during hour number two, and then we talked with Civic Media mid-morning's host, Greg Bach, who was always fun when he was on Nightlight, and we talked about Milwaukee comedy and some movie making tactics and studios and why they make this movie and why they make that movie, but check that out as well in hour number two.

Aaron Zahmers, I think at this point it's time for us to reintroduce our question of the night.

Let's talk about the question.

Okay, question.

Question.

Question.

Pregunta.

Question.

Question.

Okay, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

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Domanda.

Question.

Question.

Questions.

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What is your, what is the most exciting winter Olympic sport?

I think I said favorite earlier.

I meant exciting.

I don't always get it right.

You know,

I don't

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always get it right.

But that was a better alternative than our other question.

What musical instrument best describes your private parts?

And that one is compliments of Alec Baldwin, who described his wife's ex-boyfriend's unit

as a

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clarinet.

So you can chime in on anything we're talking about, folks.

But if you want to answer the question of the night, it is what is your favorite or what is the most exciting

winter olympic sports sport rather 855-752-4842-855-75 civic that's our text line phone number you can also text us on the civic media app or if you're watching the radio on the stream at x facebook or youtube drop us a stream comment and be part of the show i do have

an answer to our alternative question yes please the slide whistle

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So you best describe your private parts as the slide was I said triangle just because it was goofy.

I didn't know what else to say I thought it was weird that Alec Baldwin Like unless this guy is misshapen somehow or with buttons on the side.

How do you go

clarinet?

I don't know and I mean slide I'm not saying slide whistle is accurate either.

I just thought the sound would be funny

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Well, Alec Baldwin's kind of a different guy.

I just thought it was a really weird comp.

And that's why I thought it'd be a fun question.

We've never actually made it the question of the night, but you're welcome to chime in on that as well, folks.

Let us know if you like, but be part of the show either way.

Coming up this hour in Act 3, we've got Mariah Kohler.

I hope I'm saying her last name right.

I could not find an interview, and I did not email her.

So I was a, I slacked off, Aaron.

That's what I'm saying.

So I hope I'm getting her name right.

It spelled like Kohler, Wisconsin.

Yes.

Maybe she's a descendant.

Well, we'll find out.

Maybe she's the heir to the color throne.

If so, I've

worked for her before.

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I've been on their thrones.

Mariah will be here.

She is a musician who did the music for a music video that will be playing at the Door County Film Festival this weekend.

We'll talk to her about music video directing and producing.

I'm excited about that because that's something we haven't really talked much about on

Nightlight we talk often about movies and TV and the filmmaking process.

I don't think we've ever really jumped into Video or music video production, so that'll be a fun discussion.

That's coming up at 720 I'm gonna read your text in just a few moments.

What else do we have?

What am I missing?

Mr. Zommer's we got everything so far.

I think so right?

All right, so let's get some texts out of the way here because we got some good ones.

We've got Jim

Denny on the stream who is watching the radio on YouTube says downhill skiing.

No weight.

The skeleton or is it Bob sled?

I guess that I really don't have a favorite.

I like almost all of them.

Good for you, Jim.

See, Jim will never be disappointed.

So when I turned on curling Saturday night, Jim turned that on.

He would have been thrilled.

And that's that's the way to live.

He says the freestyle snowboard wasn't very good.

Oh, in past years,

it's been excellent.

I remember loving that when I was little and we had Sean White.

Yeah.

the flying tomato, right?

Pretty much.

I don't know

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if I'd heard that before, but that's accurate.

I'm pretty sure that was his nickname, and that's the one just where they go way off the tube or whatever it's called, and they just do all this crazy stuff, right?

Yeah,

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that's the one.

JB Thompson on the stream also said he reminded us.

He was proud of us, Aaron, for not using bad language, because when we talk on the stream during the breaks, people can hear us.

So that's a great way, folks.

If you wanna hear some behind the scenes banter between nightlight guests, producer and host, check us out on YouTube, Facebook or ex Twitter and hear the backstage banter.

JB also says they released all of the commercials.

He's talking about the Super Bowl commercials or almost all of them were released early.

That is true.

Great place to check out the commercials.

Thank you, JB.

Always great when JB is part of the show.

He's the guy behind the guy, behind the guy.

That's how I describe JB and he is a solid listener So we've we'll go to our text line here in the 608 Tony the trucker says Pete women's hockey Limited checking makes for a fast skill showcasing game That is a really interesting text and I could see where Tony's coming from like in guys hockey There's checking and it's not it's less graceful or

It's still fast.

It's still a fast game.

But I think I like what he's saying there, how it's a little slicker or faster with the women's hockey.

Yeah.

As far as college hockey goes, I don't know if the rules are different, but I will say the UW Madison women's hockey team the last several years has been fantastic.

And

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those games are a

lot of fun.

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Yeah.

I've never been to one, but I have friends from up here that road trip down to Madison just to watch the women's hockey team.

I mean, they take in all the sports, but they're huge.

women's hockey enthusiasts.

Steady Eddie in the 608 says, as a kid, I was big into watching ski jumping on ABC's Wide World of Sports on Saturday afternoon.

The show covered many other sports too, but ski jumping was my favorite.

The show's opening montage was video that included a Slovenian ski jumper, Vinko Bogatov, I think I'm saying that close to right, disastrously crashing and Jim McKay dramatically saying the thrill of victory and the

agony of defeat.

I so remember that steady Eddie and it was horrible.

And I always wonder how that guy lived.

The steady Eddie continues and says he suffered a concussion and a broken ankle and not Jim McKay, the ski jumper.

I'm with you.

And later went on to become a successful painter.

The ski jumper, not Jim McKay.

Well, maybe you've never seen any of Jim McKay's work, steady Eddie.

Steady Eddie says, I hope I've made myself clear Pete.

I look forward to watching some Olympic ski jumping on my color TV while enjoying some winter comfort food.

Hopefully all that happens on a Saturday afternoon.

That would be perfect.

Steady Eddie, well done as always pal.

Always great to hear

from Steady.

When I hit the nostalgia button real quick.

standing the globe to bring you the constant variety of sport.

The thrill of victory and the agony of defeat.

And so

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on.

The

human drama

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of

athletic competition.

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You know what I'm surprised?

I'm surprised that sounds so kind of canned.

Like it probably sounded like that when they aired it on ABC back in the 70s.

But it probably didn't feel that way.

at

the

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time.

No, not at all.

It sounds now like it's 100 years old.

Great find,

though.

There's TV shows from the 90s and 2000s that sound like they're 100 years old.

It's like, I don't

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even

know.

I know it did not sound that bad.

Somebody must have recorded it through like five different devices.

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Right.

That's like someone holding their phone up to the old TV show or something.

Michael in Madison in the 608 says, Hey, guys, my favorite is curling.

I am feeling more and more like a dope because apparently a lot of people and nightlight listeners like curling.

Crazy.

But Michael says my favorite is curling.

I love the strategy and they all seem like regular folks who you'd see at the pub after competition eating cheese curds with a beer.

I agree with that.

He says second is Team Bobsled watching people hype themselves by consensually slapping each other's butts is something this world needs more of.

Also, hearing John's dildo factory on the radio earlier had me crying.

Thanks, Pete.

I really needed that today.

Did I personify it?

Did I say John's?

I think you did.

Yeah.

You were talking about, you know, DoorDash and ordering items.

Right.

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Yeah.

Well, it's just a business plan I'm working on.

Michael, I'll keep you posted.

This is Mike from Addison, not Michael from Addison.

Mike says, have a lot of favorites, but the two-man luge is kind of creepy.

Yeah, I used to do a joke in my act about how I would not want to be the guy.

Like, look, you're two guys laying on each other and it's exciting.

So those guys have to forgive a lot of stuff.

That's all I'm saying.

I'm guessing I've never done that.

Even one man lose or the three person lose.

I imagine it gets more and more.

There's more time foolery involved as this work gets bigger.

But anyway, thank you for the text.

Keep them coming, folks.

What is your favorite?

or what is the most exciting winter olympic sport that is our question of the night here at nightlight when we come back we're talking door county film festival with mariah and michael it's peach wabba and nightlight on the civic media radio network

Kathryn Lake

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started.

I

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know we just mentioned Daft Punk earlier, but I don't know if you saw this about eight or seven or eight years ago Stephen Colbert wanted that band on his show and CBS put the kibosh on it because it's some contractual thing and Colbert called it the song of the summer and he put together this whole dance routine to that song and Got all these cameos Jeff Bridges Hugh Laurie Matt Damon all these Henry Kissinger was in it.

It was

So brilliant and so funny and for a while you couldn't even see it online because they just shut it down than network lawyers But it was one of my favorite moments from his show.

I don't really watch much late night TV anymore But man, I watched that about ten times.

It was just great.

So I'm just complimenting you on your well, thank you song so I'm doing my best Doing a swell job.

All right.

Hey folks, we're gonna pivot a little bit here.

We've been talking

all week, a little bit about the Dora County Film Festival.

The other night we had Kurt Krause, Chris Opera, and Antonio Polk on, who gave kind of the pitch of what the festival is, when it's taking place, and how it grew from this great little coffee shop film club, basically, where they showed short films.

to the Dora County Short Film Festival, and now it's a full-blown film festival with shorts and feature films and music videos.

So we're gonna talk more about music videos with my next guest.

She joins us over the stream, and she will be there this weekend.

Her name is Mariah Kaler.

Hello, Mariah.

Hi, Pete.

Pete Schwaba

I'm glad I finally got your name right.

You can, to make it up, why don't you call me like Shlaba or something like that?

Then we'll

be

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even, okay?

Sounds good.

Pete Schwaba

Fire away.

All right.

Hey, it's great to have you and nice to meet you.

Yeah, thanks for having me and shout out to Kurt and Chris Opera for setting up this evening.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, absolutely.

Great guys.

I love having them on the show.

We'll talk.

We've got a lot to get to here.

First, I have to ask you because I ask all my guests the question of the night.

Do you have a favorite or an Olympic, a winter Olympic sport you think is the most exciting?

I guess I'd have to go with probably the figure skating.

And now, full disclosure, it's been a long time since I've watched any, but growing up, I think that that's the only one I thought existed because for some reason we always watched all the skating.

Nice.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah.

Okay.

Well, you've got, there've been some great Wisconsin speed skaters like Eric Hayden and people like that.

So we have, we were well represented in the Winter Olympics.

Yeah.

Pete Schwaba

All right, well that's great.

So tell us before we jump into your music video and a little bit more about what's happening this weekend, tell us a little bit about yourself.

Yeah, so I'm a full-time freelance video editor and I have been doing that for about four years now and I do a lot of different projects.

Some of it's more in the marketing realm.

Once in a while I get to work on crews for productions of more creative projects and now and then I get to talk to artists and they need a lot of

Artists need music videos to promote themselves nowadays.

So it's something that I've gotten to do with various people in my network and people talking past names around and That's how it's come to be that I worked with Michael and it's cool.

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All right, you're talking about Michael Grabner

Yeah.

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Okay.

So you created this music video for his song, Hall Me Away, and

that's going to

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play Saturday the 14th in the first block at Door County at the one o'clock during the one o'clock block.

How did you guys get connected?

So my friend of mine who I've done video work with was having a show one night.

We went out to see her and

As part of the lineup Michael was there and got to chatting with him and so it was really a mutual connection that brought us together Which I find is a lot a lot of times what happens with sure a lot of video work It's you know somebody and you have a need so he had reached out and it worked out that we could collaborate on it

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Where does he come from and where do you come from are you guys both native Wisconsinites?

Yep, I'm not sure.

I know he's out of Appleton now.

I think he's from here.

I'm from the Appleton area also.

I grew up in Kakana, so.

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Oh, okay.

Is

that where

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you're coming to us from tonight?

Right now, I live in Nina.

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Okay.

Yeah.

A

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suburb of Appleton,

to be

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fair.

Yeah.

Sure.

Is there a big demand for people that want to make videos?

Because I'm sure as a videographer or whatever you call yourself within that field,

People all the businesses want to make videos probably families like how busy do you stay doing that?

Yeah, it's been it's been busy for me the last especially last nine months I've had a lot going on especially I work a lot with digital marketing and That realm so if you think of all of the ads you're seeing online all of the ads you're seeing on Streaming services all of those ads need to be made somehow so there's definitely a need for it And there's there's a decent network of us

out here and it can be anyone from independent creators like myself to larger companies that do it.

So there's work to go around I'm finding.

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You mentioned you worked on film crews and we'll get more into the, I have a lot of questions about making a music video.

I find it kind of fascinating because I was given the opportunity or someone approached me years ago to do something like that and I had no clue how to go about it.

Like it's a totally different animal.

Because so think about that because I'm gonna ask you that after the break, but right now How do you like is there an approach like when you came out of school?

Is this what you wanted to do?

Did you want to go into marketing or is film your first love?

Well, I didn't I only been in the film industry for about five years before I spent the first

probably 14 years of my career in marketing.

I have a science and technical writing degree.

So it's kind of a roundabout path, but just kind of as the internet evolved and as marketing evolved, the video landscape kind of opened up as a place where there was a lot more marketing going on.

So I did it as part of a marketing and merchandising role.

And then about five years ago decided I wanted to just do exclusively video work rather than the marketing.

side of it.

So it was just kind of naturally unfolded that way for me.

Pete Schwaba

Okay.

That's awesome.

All right.

Mariah Kaler is here, folks.

We're going to talk to her about her music video that you can see at the Dora County Film Festival this weekend.

That's all coming up after news, sports and weather.

This is Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

That is a request from our guest, Mariah Taylor, who I have a funny story about that song.

I always, that was kind of a guilty pleasure.

I thought it was kind of cheesy, like the movie, but it's kind of one of those things.

It's like a great workout song, or if you're taking a walk.

And I had a friend who I was writing in a coffee shop when I still lived in LA, and he's...

Oh, he's got a long history anyway.

Things did not go well for him, but he walks over and says something to me and I lift my headphone and he can hear the John Parr song.

So we did our business and he went over and sat down and I walked over and said, hey man, do me a favor, don't tell anybody you heard me listening to John Parr.

And he laughed and whatever.

But how did you, you're much younger than me, I think.

How did you find that song, Mariah?

I have no idea.

Probably from my boyfriend.

Pete Schwaba

Okay, there you go.

That's a good one.

Yeah, good tunes are timeless.

Pete Schwaba

Absolutely.

All right, Mariah Kaler is here, folks.

She is a, she's a director, a writer, a producer, an editor.

She kind of does it all and she's got a music video in the Dork County Film Festival, which takes place this weekend.

It kicks off tomorrow night, a wonderful little film festival.

I'm excited to be there myself.

Um, and I hope everyone in the area can make it out because they've got some great, uh, some great films showing this weekend.

Uh, Mariah, you have a music video showing there.

I didn't even know film festivals showed music videos, but it's in a block of shorts.

Um, what even made you submit it for something like, you must have obviously known that they were open to showing music videos.

Yes, when I first started going to festivals we've we always went to Wildwood here in Appleton for many years before I was in the video realm so occasionally you'd see a few entered and I think yeah I think a lot of people don't think to enter that kind of a thing and I don't I think I when I looked through this is the only one that's showing this year so I mean maybe people just don't enter them but I

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love it

No, it's great.

And I, like I was saying before, a friend of mine just kind of asked me and I, you know, I don't even know how, how do you do that?

Because, you know, it seems like you have such a blank canvas.

You don't have to follow the lyrics of the song or necessarily even the mood.

Sometimes there's a total juxtaposition of what's happening.

How do you know where to start?

Like, do you start with the narrative of the lyrics or in the song?

Where do you, how do you decide which direction to go with it?

Yeah, I know a lot of video people like doing music videos because it's like a tiny film.

It's like a mini film So you can try some new things you can get experimental a lot of the time I think the artist some has something that they want to convey or you collaborate with them other times you're kind of Supplying more of the ideas and I've done it both ways for this one This one's a little unique because it's actually a lyric video.

So it does have the text of

all the lyrics and a lot of times now you're seeing it's part of the promo package when artists are releasing songs that they you know the song goes out on Spotify they'll have a few things on social media they'll have something go out on their YouTube just to kind of cater to their audience wherever they're at so this was a lyric video designed kind of for that promo purpose and with it he didn't Michael

Didn't have a lot of direction so usually what I'll do is I'll just listen to the song a bunch of times like like I'll spend hours just listening to it and see What kind of feelings I get what the lyrics are saying to me to and figuring out like how could I create this and We didn't do any filming for this one.

It's all graphics-based.

So okay in some ways that's more freeing in other ways you're more limited because it's like how can I create something that's

interesting that conveys this song that helps express something of the artist's personality and stuff like that.

So a lot of that goes into it.

And this one, I kind of made a few mockups.

I think I made, usually I'll make some mockups for the artist before I create the whole thing, get their approval on it, see if I'm on the same page of that.

And this one was a pretty easy one to dial in something that we both

had fun with.

Pete Schwaba

Have you done other music videos where the artist was very involved or knew what they wanted?

And if so, which do you prefer?

Which which approach?

Yeah, I did.

I did a series of videos for another local artist called strategic a few years ago.

And he had he had released an EP.

So that's three songs on an album.

And he had an arc of each song had its own part of the story.

And then the three together were telling a story.

So that was

pretty like we my my contribution was figuring out okay where can we go to film this what kind of constraints do we have of course there's always limitations of who can we get to help us and what kind of talent can we talk into helping yeah so there's a lot of moving parts when you're doing something that sweeping and it came it came together and told the story um

It was challenging because there was a lot a lot to do it ended up being about 10 minutes where normal music videos, you know, three to four Yeah, yeah,

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he was on strategic spend on nightlife before he performed awesome.

Yeah, it was great

Yeah, shut up strategic a Brandon

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What kind of music Do you prefer when you're making a video like that?

Do you like something slower or something rockin or country or what?

I don't

I don't know if I have a strong preference.

Anything that has a mood, I think, is what I would say.

Because you have to make something interesting.

I have to connect with it somehow.

So strong moods.

Other genres I've done is more like alt rock or kind of more guitar based rock.

And you can get a feel for it.

If you listen to it enough,

things will come through and if if I don't I haven't had a time when I'm drawing a total blank so you can put you can always consult with the artists and usually they have some opinions so that's helpful

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yeah so you've done other stuff too you said you worked on a film called the voice in the vessel with Daniel Wheeler he's been

on the

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show before yeah and you know you've edited

What do you prefer like when it comes to directing or producing our music videos where you want to go?

Or is this a way to pay the rent and kind of get some experience and you want to do narrative films?

What's your desire there?

Yeah, well music videos I would say are kind of like a Cherry on top when they come through I don't do a lot of them.

I've done maybe four or five in the last few years just for Okay, it's really occasional

I kind of think of myself as an editor, so if I can get my hands on some footage and tell some stories, that's really where I like to be, is in creating messages, and especially if it's something heartwarming or heartfelt or genuine, that's kind of my sweet spot of the kind of projects I like to work on.

Pete Schwaba

Great answer.

My guest is Mariah Kaler.

You can see her work at the Dora County Film Festival this weekend.

She's got a music video she did for artist Michael Grabner, and the song is called Hall Me Away, and it will be playing Saturday, February 14th, in the one o'clock block at the Dora County Film Festival.

You'll be there.

Are you going to do a Q&A or anything?

Yeah, and I think Michael will be there too, as far as I know, so we'll both be in attendance.

I've had work there.

I think the last couple years and It's really fun.

It's just a great great experience to be there.

Pete Schwaba

That's great We've got on the stream one of your friends and one of my friends JB Thompson says Pete if you were going to be in a music video What song would you pick?

That's interesting because I thought about it over the break and I don't know It seems like it would be really awkward.

So I picked like any like a John Prine song just something kind of

cool where I could wear like a cowboy hat or some raggedy jeans or something like a little bit of Americana or Springsteen or something like that.

What would you do, Mariah?

I maybe would want to do something kind of progressive rock kind of thing.

Maybe on the heavier side.

I

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had to nick.

Is that your music of choice?

Yeah, it's kind of one of my go-tos a lot of the time.

It depends on the day.

Pete Schwaba

Okay All right, so tell us what else you know, I know you've been a production assistant and editor How is all of that different like what is your if you had to choose you said you're kind of an editor first But where do you see your career going?

If you had your choice

Yeah, well like the coolest thing about working in video production is it doesn't take too many steps to get to

works that need more people than just one.

So whenever you can get a team together, get on a team, go to a place and, you know, hauling in the gear, setting it all up, getting everything looking just right, having someone there to oversee and make sure you're getting what needs to be captured so that, you know, when me or whoever's back in the editing room, we have what we need.

All of the moving parts of being on location is really fun.

So that's something that I always jump at the chance to do.

Being an editor is pretty solitary a lot of the time.

And so I'm always eager to get on crews and help out and get a little bit of social time in.

And you meet people on every crew you work on.

You'll meet new people and you never know if that person will be able to invite you to another job in the future or you'll need that person's skill set in the future.

So that's one of the things that's really the most exciting about working in this field.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, that's great.

And you're right that you those bonds you build on a set, whether

it's

Pete Schwaba

a commercial or movie or whatever, they're they're very solid.

What was it like working with?

I've gotten to know Daniel Wheeler over the last couple of years and a great guy, very talented artist and a pretty good actor, too.

Very good.

And Daniel needs to leave, which will also be playing at the Door County Film Festival.

I've had the opportunity to see that with an audience.

I loved his film, The Voice and the Vessel.

I thought the production value was incredible for a short film.

Talk about your experience on that a little bit.

Yeah, that was really a treat to work on and I hope I can work with Daniel again on projects and Grace because we just had a good time.

He's really good at planning and just the tone of working on that project was really pleasant.

But yeah, I was on hand to just kind of be assistant to the cameraman, haul the stuff in.

offer whatever supports needed.

I think it was just a crew of maybe four or three or four and then our talent.

So it was pretty streamlined and we just had a great time.

The locations were beautiful and the props that he made were incredible.

It all just really worked together to tell like a spooky Twilight Zone kind of story.

And yeah, I was really glad to work on

Pete Schwaba

that.

Before we let you go, are you binge watching anything you could recommend?

We just finished watching the new season of Fallout.

Pete Schwaba

Oh

yeah,

Pete Schwaba

okay.

And we're not players of the game.

So I think there was a lot that we missed, but we just love the aesthetic of that series.

And yeah, hopefully don't have to live in any wastelands, but just the cool retro future kind of setting has really been interesting to watch.

Pete Schwaba

It seems like everything that comes out now is some kind of dystopian or post-apocalyptic everything.

And I watched the first few episodes of Fallout and I thought I agree with you.

The aesthetic was cool.

I don't know why I didn't stick with it.

It's not like I hated it or anything, but that's a good one.

Okay, well, listen, I look forward to meeting you in person.

It's going to be a fun weekend.

Have a great time in Dork County.

I hope you get the response you want from your music video and I'm excited to see it.

So it's been great meeting you and I look forward to seeing you this weekend.

Yeah, thanks for having me on, and I'll look for you at the Fest.

Pete Schwaba

Sounds good.

That's Mariah Kaler, folks.

The song is Hall Me Away by Michael Grabner.

She did the music video for it.

So check that out, and maybe in a few weeks, who knows?

Maybe we can see it online or on YouTube or whatever.

All I know is I've got six LinkedIn invitations since this show started, Zomers.

So I've got options, buddy.

I guess that's good.

We're coming right back to read your text, and I've got a really fun clip you don't want to miss.

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Pete Schwaba

Welcome back folks.

This is Nightlight.

I am Pete Schwabble.

We are in the homestretch here at Mr. Aaron Zommers producing the show tonight.

Always fun to work with Aaron.

We've got a couple highlight shows coming up over the next couple nights here at Civic Media.

I will be off and making an appearance and checking out some really cool films at the Dora County Film Festival.

Our next live show will be next Wednesday.

And we have an excellent lineup.

That's going to be a lot of fun next Wednesday.

We've got Dr. Kristen Lyrely, Andy Wassman, who is going to talk about a really cool event involving beer and sled dogs, if I remember properly.

And Spie is going to tell us about a really cool show he is bringing to Wisconsin.

You're not going to want to miss that.

Lots of fun stuff going on next week on nightlight, but we don't start until Wednesday, but tune in tomorrow and Friday for the highlight shows.

We'll be replaying our our interview with Seth Wakersham from ESPN and David Yiddish.

Nice saying that, right?

I think so.

That's pretty good.

That was a few nice.

Her name is kind of tough.

Yeah.

More Middle Eastern names are not something that we often have to pronounce.

Pete Schwaba

Here's what I'm hearing here and Schwabba you crushed it

Yeah, that's what I said.

Pete Schwaba

Yep More or less Dave on the stream says curling because I because I can be Curling because I could be an Olympian if I applied myself Famous last words.

Isn't everybody say that?

Yeah, or I

could be a blank, you know

Pete Schwaba

Exactly I could I could have played pro ball because I caught an orange that rolled off the table

But I know Dave and I know he meant to be funny.

So that totally works Dave from Madison and the 608 says Q1 slalom those races are 85 miles per hour and one mistake equals pain or you lose by 0.001 second.

Yeah, no great point Dave because that is a crazy thing about that event the times they win and lose by That's why that's a great event the slalom.

I love that

Q2, since Aaron took a slide whistle, I'll go with trombone.

So Dave sees his private parts as the trombone.

Another got some interesting shaped private parts here we've talked about on this show tonight.

Although also thanks for the name song reference, I'm going to use that to mess with people when they stop over.

Just happening to be listening to the Pete song, for example.

What's the Pete song?

It's just remember the Gregory song earlier?

Oh,

Pete Schwaba

yeah, it's just a YouTube channel

that for basically any name they have a song for it and it's just generic music and they're saying Pete

Pete Schwaba

Okay, I love it All right, so folks, thanks so much for all your texts and calls It's always more fun when you guys participate and thank you to all my guests tonight Rob Thomas Mariah Koehler and Greg Bach We've had a lot of fun here tonight.

I want to I want to kind of go out the part of this is visual, but it's the aesthetic of the audio

that I love about this next clip, Aaron.

It's from The Simpsons and it's kind of a composite of their Valentine's Day episode and there's some great sound bites and Ned Flanders makes an appearance and Mo the bartender, Barton Homer, it's just a great little tribute to Valentine's Day by one of my favorite shows, The

Simpsons.

Monster match with you on this beautiful Valentine's Day.

Marty, why did you play that song today?

There must be thousands of love songs.

Well, it's kind of a love song.

All the monsters enjoying each other's company, you know, dancing, holding their evil in check.

You played the wrong record, didn't you?

Why are you doing this to me?

Bah!

This is just another Hallmark holiday cooked up to sell cards.

A valentine from my granddaughter.

Can I have the envelope?

To Mo from your secret admirer.

Oh, God, no.

And this is for my

huggy bug in honor of this

special day.

Special day?

Oh, what have I forgotten now?

Don't panic.

Is it bacon day?

No, that crazy talk.

She's getting impatient.

Take a stab at it.

Happy

Valentine's Day.

Oh, thank

you,

dear.

Woo-hoo!

I bet you have a lot of things planned, eh, Dad?

Uh, kind of.

Nobody makes a big deal out of Valentine's Day.

If you think I'm tired, like, and you want my company, come on, wifey, let me know.

Ow!

Hey, Dad, why don't you give Mom her present?

What a nice idea, son.

Pete Schwaba

You know what's so funny like they used to play they don't show Appu anymore Hank has area played Appu and the funny part of that clip is Homer runs out the door as fast as he can runs to the mini Mart the quickie Mart and Gets Marge a gift there, and I think that's I'm just guessing that's probably why they trim that off the video I don't know that is interesting Kind of a bummer.

I had a Jim Gaffigan clip too.

Do we have time for that?

I think so

Let's try to jam that in.

This is Jim Gaffigan on Valentine's Day.

Valentine's Day.

The tradition is we give each other those big red hearts filled with the gamble chocolate.

Have you ever eaten any chocolate out of those big red hearts with any confidence?

Well, this could either be really good or totally nasty.

I'm just picking up to find out.

Ah, I got the one filled with toothpaste.

I'm gonna have to eat another nine to get rid of that flavor.

There's the big red hearts filled with the gamble chalk out of the tiny chalk heart-shaped an acids I Know I make you nauseous.

Here's a toms with hug me written on it

Pete Schwaba

Jim Gaffigan ladies and gentlemen, I hope everybody has a happy and safe Valentine's Day Zommer we will talk I hope you make it to Dork County, but no pressure and the rest of you as well I hope everybody has a wonderful night.

Thank you again for being part of the show and On behalf of Aaron Zommer's good night,

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