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Okay, so Lenny Schmidt is here.

Very funny comedian and very talented actor.

My internet cut out.

I don't know what happened.

We lost a couple of minutes with Lenny, so we asked him to stick around.

and give us a few more minutes after the news, and he is here from Los Angeles over the stream, but headed, where you headed Len, to a boat,

right?

Yeah, I'm getting back on a, it's a ship, man.

You gotta call it a ship.

They get really excited to call it a boat.

I don't care, but if a captain will literally scream at you, so.

It's a shit, I'm going to Cozumel.

I'll be in Cozumel tomorrow morning and get on the carnival, already brought tomorrow.

So the weather in Los Angeles isn't nice enough.

You have to go further south.

Yeah.

And make it even better.

Yeah.

Well, I was telling Aaron before when we lost you for like two minutes, I, uh, I ended up doing the ship, but some of them are out of the East coast.

And I forget that we're coming back to East coast.

Like that ship's going out of Norfolk.

I don't know why.

Cause the first two days of the ship on Norfolk, the ship is like 40 degrees.

I always forget because they go, I'm getting on a cruise ship.

And I just pack my shorts, my trunks, my tank tops, my flip-flops.

And they land in a world

of cold, cold air.

It's

over.

Welcome to my world.

Hey, okay.

So, Len, tell us about this great, you know, you will get to some of your other shows.

You got some great credits, but you also did a short film directed by a mutual friend of ours, Al Alter, called Some Kind of Joke.

And a lot of our friends were in it, Steve Sieger, Jimmy Parto, just a great cast.

You play a bartender.

You kind of are the glue that holds the whole thing together.

And folks, check out this film.

It's called Some Kind of Joke.

It is available on YouTube.

It's about, what, 10 minutes, Len?

It's just a great piece of work.

It's easy to find.

You can go to YouTube.

You can go anywhere.

It's on my website.

It's, uh, guys have it everywhere.

I didn't know you weren't in that.

Like every Chicago guy in the world was in that thing.

I don't know what I did to, uh, you know, I thought people kind of liked me, uh, but apparently I went through a phase where it first

moved to

LA.

I don't know.

You were out there right?

You were out there before I was because then we shot that right when it first moved out late So this had to be 99 ish right around there.

Yeah, I

got there in 97 But yeah, I don't know but whatever it's I was cheering everybody on

in two days Dude, it was so much fun.

It was two days and I'm basically as the bartender I'm the straight man to every bar joke.

You know every every bar joke is me

And one shot Mark Unger is like dead peeing on me and that joke and then and then there's a duck in there.

I mean every every bartender joke where I'm going, what's that supposed to be?

It's we literally played everything out and the promise of the movie is simple guy walks into a bar and then there's no one better to write that movie than Steve and Al.

They were perfect for it.

And it was basically every bar joke in the world played out in front of your eyes and Steve is the guy that walks into it.

It's just it was so much.

It was so much fun.

We shot it in two or two days.

I don't know if you know the story about it.

There's a scene where Graham Elwood is standing next to a, standing on the, he's the six inch pianist.

He's the little mini guy on the bar, right?

So he's the little mini six inch pianist.

So about a year later, we're talking, or two years later, we're talking about this.

And Hammer had mentioned how much money he spent on that effect.

He was, I spent so much money on that effect.

I'd use my credit card.

It was like a lot of money.

And someone goes, why didn't you just have Graham stand next to a giant inflatable Budweiser can?

And it looked like you sucked the life out of Hammer's face.

It was just like,

ugh.

Hammer is L alter the director of the film and the nickname is fantastic.

He's like a short funny Jewish guy now Not the guy you think would have the nickname hammer, but just such a great guy and did such a great job And I think he loves his nickname too for what it's worth one

It's a perfect nickname for him because he's the exact opposite of the hammer.

It's just a little short quiet nice sweets, you know, it's a really great guy

very even keel.

I don't think I've ever seen Hammer raise his voice in 30 years, you know, that I've known him.

Right.

Just a mellow dude, man.

Yeah, I think it was

so much fun speaking.

I think I'm like the only person in the world that doesn't like him, which is strange, but that's still a pretty good track record.

So, all right, so Lenny Schmidt is here.

Len, we have a few more minutes.

Tell us about...

you know you got such great credits you know you did all this like castle and desperate housewives and what was your best experience on a set

um true blood that was probably that was fun man oh you kind of cut out there what did you say was it true blood uh true blood show on uh on HBO

That was cool.

I had to go full costume.

So I went to the, to the, to the, uh, universe, uh, what's it called the studio, the big costume place in the valley that has the John Wayne wing.

Have you ever been over there?

There's like a whole John Wayne wing, which is everything John Wayne never wore.

And I was wearing vintage 1920s tux.

I was dressed like a mob boss and the, you know, it's an opening scene of me and a party, having a party.

And the closing scene is me and the bill who plays.

or Steven who plays Bill and then have sex in our butt.

But it's the most, they snap my neck.

I mean, there was just so much involved.

When the shoot was over, I was covered in fake blood from head to toe.

I had all these bites all over my body, like these fake things.

And it was just the coolest thing ever.

Man, at the time it was the biggest number one show on HBO.

It was big deals, really cool.

And they were great.

Everybody was on the cast, and they invited me to the wrap party afterwards.

We had a good time.

So I think that was probably the best one.

When I got my neck snapped, I laid there and watched my wife kind of die.

And she was perfect.

She did great, acted so well.

Because one of the things they explained to me on that shoot is when they do blood shooting, or at least at the time, when they had to do blood shooting from a body, they had to do it by hand.

Because if they used a machine that looked too...

to mechanical.

So if

you did it by hand, there were actual people that paid that were called blood pumpers or whatever.

And they had a way to make it look like it was real heartbeat.

So there's really, there was a guy off screen with a bucket of blood pumping blood through a tube that was coming out of her neck that had to look like she was really getting eaten alive.

So it was just a really cool thing to watch and learn how they do that type of job.

That's fantastic.

Hey,

of course.

Yeah, really.

safe travels Len this has been a lot of fun I've been trying to get you on the show for a while now I know you're a busy guy I really appreciate your time and I hope we get to do it again soon.

Thanks buddy thanks for having me I appreciate it man.

Take

care.

You got it.

Lenny Schmidt, folks.

Check out LennySchmidt.com.

And Google some kind of joke.

It's a short film shot in black and white, very stylistic, very cool.

Lenny is the main character in that as well.

And like I made a Pete Pick in my Hollywood Beats, Southland is a really good show.

Episode one of season two.

Check it out.

Zomers, how we doing?

Doing

good.

You know, it looks like

we

have our next guest here if we want to bring him in.

What?

That is fantastic news.

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for sticking with us through some technical issues.

We got them all worked out, I believe.

And we kept Lenny for a few extra minutes.

So our guest now is one of our faves.

He joins us from Milwaukee over the stream.

He does great work reviewing films there.

Check out his A Man About Films sub-stack.

And we always love talking to him here on Nightlight.

Mr. Matt Miller, hey buddy, how are you?

That's my stage name, technical issues.

it's not catching on tech

for short we'll do our best to help you spread that around man

thanks for happening yeah

it's great to have you how are you tonight

i'm doing well i'm doing very well it's almost vaguely warm outside so that's exciting i'm still braced for the inevitable april snow shower but you know that's that's the life we've chosen in the wonderful state of wisconsin i wouldn't trade it for anything else

Well, that makes one of us.

No, but better April than June too.

That's what I say.

We make Wisconsin our home and we roll with the bad weather and that's just what we do.

If it snows in June, then we know the day after tomorrow is breaking out.

We know Roland Emmerich is showing up.

Great point.

Hey, Matt, our question of the night is it's National Inventors Day.

And so our question of the night is what is your favorite invention?

So if you don't have one at the ready, that's fine.

Think it over.

Maybe we can come back after a break and get it, but give that some thought.

I mean, I'll be obvious and easy.

Like the invention of film, the invention of a film projector, I think those are pretty critical to the things that I love in life and the things that mean a lot to me.

I think those are pretty tremendous things and I'm glad somebody invented them.

and uh yeah sorry to be stereotypical no i thought but yeah i thought you might say that invented the first film cheers to you sir who is that who's the first it's a birth of a nation what's the what's the actual first movie no no no uh it wasn't melier's uh

i

gotta look at him

though

Well,

that's the first

movie I remember in college we studied

was it there oftentimes accredited melees and and Lumiere look like Lumiere's brothers looks like those are kind of

the earliest ones uh

i'm

sure all the like super cinephiles listening to this right now are just raging at me because i'm sure i have i'm i'm hot off of orange theory sessions so i'm sweaty and exhausted so my apologies my film history is not coming right to me

wait

what

are you hot off of

uh orange theory it's like it's like a workout thing oh

okay

yeah i'm trying to not die and that's how i'm trying

Listen, if you almost are killed during a workout session, my guess is it's gonna help you shed a few pounds at the very least.

So, Mellie, all right, I gotta check that out, and it's probably the only film that has not been remade yet by Hollywood as well, unless it has been, and I just don't know about

it.

I think Fantastic Voyage may have been remade.

I know, I think that's a Mellie's movie, which actually, the Oriental Theater in Milwaukee recently did a live screening of a special George Mellie's marathon where they, like,

together 12 of his short films and projected them with people playing scores live with the movies.

And that's a really good thing.

I love what the Oriental does in terms of their screenings.

And I will say, to bring it to the Oscars and bring it to current movie stuff, if you're trying to complete your screenings, the voice of Hind Rajab, international film nominee, that's going to be showing there this weekend.

So make sure to check that out at the Oriental Theater.

All right.

We are coming right back after a very short break, folks, with Matt Miller.

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It's Britney Spears.

Yeah, okay.

She's not

that innocent.

I'm not that innocent.

Hey, welcome back, folks.

This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba.

We are jamming through hour three here on a Tuesday night talking about the things we love to talk about and the things that bring us together.

Movies and Super Bowl commercials with our guest.

the very talented Matt Miller who joins us over the stream from Milwaukee.

Matt will get to some movies as usual, but what was your take?

Tell us what you thought about the game, the Super Bowl, and then the commercials.

I can kind of across the board say the Super Bowl game and the commercials pretty rough.

I will

say the game itself lived down to your expectations for a Drake May

versus uh sam darnold's you know matchup uh it reminded me a lot looking back to the giants ravens super bowl i believe that was 2001 where it was like a big blowout the giants couldn't do anything but at least that super bowl like the ravens defense was so interesting and imposing and

right

no whereas the super bowl there was just

The fact that we were really excited for a kicker to maybe win MVP kind of tells you everything you need to know about the game.

And then I think, I think I got a call time of death on the Super Bowl being an ad showcase.

I think

it has been several years now of underwhelming, you know, overpriced, overhyped ads that under deliver during the game itself.

And I think I'm done with it.

I think when next year comes around, I'm gonna be like, nah, I'm done playing this game of the ads being exciting.

We can talk through them again.

No one's doing anything interesting in these ads anymore.

We talked a little bit about that earlier in the show, and I equated it to like...

I think they're trying too hard.

They're trying to be clever, trying to be just overtly funny, and it's just not working.

I don't know when this started, maybe early 2000s, when people absolutely had to watch the commercials.

There was probably due to the fact that there were three or four great ones, and then everybody's been trying to emulate that.

It's not working.

I agree with you.

It's way overdone.

I think there's two big causes of death here.

One of them is all of these these brands really want maximum exposure for their ads so they focus more on getting famous names into their ads than coming up with a funny premise or something you know clever and so like the formulas of these are two celebrities and then a third one shows up or look it's these people re-enacting you know that movie you love in the past it all just feels really

formula and they spend so much money getting these actors and not enough time actually giving them something funny to say and then you add in the fact that they do all this de-aging and all the CG and AI in some cases and it looks bad and it's not that fun and then you add in the fact that you know we saw so many of these ads a week ago already.

All of these companies want to get ahead of the Super Bowl and want to get into the articles getting written a week in advance of like, ooh, these are the spots you'll see.

So when the Super Bowl comes and the ad plays, either A, we don't watch it during the commercial because, you know, we've already seen it, we tune it out, or B, it's a worse shortened version of a longer commercial that you have to go to the YouTube for to go to a website to.

And I'm not going to do that.

So it's kind of multi-death by a thousand X blows.

Does

anybody do that?

I mean, look, we're in the age of everybody's on their phones.

The attention span is zero.

Who's going to watch and add?

Maybe an older person, but who else would watch an ad on TV and go, oh, I got to log on to abc.com or whatever it is and find out how this ends.

Well,

that

seems so early 2000s.

Who's doing that?

It really does.

And then you go to these YouTube, like the Dunkin' Donuts one with that ad is like three to four minutes long.

That's a full on short film they made.

Brutal.

And it's like, well, you only had 30 seconds.

What were we doing here?

And I think you have bummers like the Pringles ad with Sabrina Carpenter and the Benson Boone, Ben Stiller one, where the long versions are actually pretty funny.

But for the Super Bowl, they cut out the timing.

They cut out the better jokes.

And the result was a mediocre 30 second spot that I didn't want to see more of afterwards.

So it was a rough game.

And I think a rough day.

Fred, the one standout, I will say, was the trailer for the Adventures of Cliff Booth, the once upon a time in Hollywood spin-off that Netflix is doing, written by Quentin Tarantino and directed by David Fincher.

I did not know that trailer was coming, that movie's been in the works, and it was a real like, well, we'll see if this actually comes to fruition.

And apparently it is.

Apparently they are actually making this thing, and it looks, I mean,

Fincher and Tarantino together that could be that could be quite the movie.

I am way too excited about that movie.

I missed the cliff booth trailer during the game No, I've forgotten since forgotten to look it up online until you just said that I'm like, oh, yeah Like I'm excited about that like one of my favorite Tarantino films isn't really a Tarantino film But it's true romance that he wrote similar situation here.

I really like that film

Probably too high expectations for the cliff.

Yeah, and Tarantino is doing this weird thing right now where he's like I'm only gonna make one more movie Yeah, and as a result he's given himself like writer's block He's given himself like artist block because he wants to make sure his final movie is the best movie he's ever made And it's like just make movies dude like no one's keeping score really like just make more than one movie if you don't want to end on that movie Just

just make more movies and stop ripping on Paul Dano.

I mean give the guy a break what?

is

all that

All right, Matt Miller is here, folks.

Milwaukee Film Critic.

Follow him, check out his work at not, or I'm sorry, at a Man About film on a sub-stack.

He does great work there, and he does great work here.

We love talking movies with him, and we're gonna talk about some movies after the news here.

It's Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

90s kick.

Is that because of the list?

Yep.

You know, we're talking about bad things in the 90s.

Well, straight

to

this.

I'm not

saying this is

bad.

I'm saying.

Love 90s music.

Just about the 90s.

Welcome back.

I'm Pete Chihuahua.

This is Night Light.

My guest right now is one of our Night Light besties, Mr. Matt Miller.

He reviews films and is based in the great city of Milwaukee.

And we always love when he is here to talk movies with us.

Okay, so we covered the Super Bowl, we covered the halftime show.

Did you... Zomers and I were talking about this, Matt.

We had the point where when there was no touchdown score, or when it was a shutout, you were just kind of hoping the game would get worse.

like watching a bad show or something like let's just see how bad this can go.

I

was kind of hoping for there was a hope of like let's let's go all in let's get like a 24 to nothing game let's throw a safety in there let's do no touchdowns all field goals I was kind of a like let's just you know Elmo with the apocalypse behind him meme this right

We were very close to popping a bottle of champagne when the first touchdown scored.

We were that desperate for genuine excitement and points.

And I think it probably has to be better than the Super Bowl that you talked about with the Ravens because Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl ring.

And you know, tip of my hat to him.

Gritty guy, grinder, you know, but man, not maybe the worst quarterback ever to have a Super Bowl ring.

Yeah, it's a strange year.

I think it was a strange Super Bowl for a strange football year where, you know, you've got the Tom Brady's and the Aaron Rodgers is of the world.

That kind of era of quarterback is moving out.

And you've got this new, you know, you've got the Pat Mahomes and the, you know, Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson.

And this felt like a season where, you know, that new guard was going to step up and none of them did due to injury or a lack of success.

And as a result, you get a Super Bowl with

you know frankly a rookie who looked like a rookie and a guy who I think is a good quarterback but a game manager like Sam Donald is Joe Flacco 2.0 you know and there's nothing wrong with being Joe Flacco 2.0 but

I don't know how excited I am to watch more Sam Darnold football.

Exactly.

I was happy kind of redeemed himself, you know, but yeah, you're right.

He's a game manager at best.

That was the closest thing we had to a fun narrative this year was the middle finger to Minnesota Vikings.

Basically.

All right, so movies Matt send help This is a Sam Raimi film starring Dylan O'Brien and Rachel McAdams I saw it as well.

My wife and I saw in the theater Good reviews for audiences and critics.

What was your

take?

I had such a good time, I just spiked my phone into the ground.

I really enjoyed Sandel.

It's really fun to watch Sam Raimi get to like go back into his element, kind of in maybe not all the way Evil Dead mode, because I don't think the studio would let him go all Evil Dead again, but he's at least in Drag Me to Hell mode, where he's like having fun.

doing gross, fun, weird stuff.

He's being like, listen, this is a gross scene.

I think it needs more snot.

I think it needs more

blood.

I think it

needs more puke.

I had a really, I think Rachel McAdams and Dylan O'Brien are exactly on the right wavelength of what this movie is.

I think they're both really fun.

I think it lives up to its really good premise.

I had a hoot and a holler in watching it.

I hope you did too.

I did.

I thought it was

He kept you guessing.

Without doing a spoiler, it's not totally what it seems during the ads, but it's close to that, but you kind of are wondering who you root for eventually throughout the course of the film.

and I kind of a misery thing, although misery was more overt, but I agree with you.

It's Sam Raimi, like one second, there's a skeleton popping out of nowhere over someone's shoulder.

I'm like, wait a minute, this is the first, it was such a tangential thing, but it worked and I loved it.

Just.

Sam Raimi cramming in gremlins and deadites wherever he can and like anytime he can go weird and gross in a moment he's gonna it was really nice because he hasn't really directed much over the past 15 years.

Right.

Drag Me to Hell was 2010 I believe and then it was Oz the Great and Powerful a movie that does not exist

and

then it was Doctor Strange which

Some parts of that movie feel very Sam Raimi.

Those are the fun parts.

And then other parts of that movie, you can feel the Marvel cinematic apparatus, like grabbing the wheel from him and being like, all right, we got some business to do.

So it was fun to see him do a movie that kind of just lets him off the chain and be like, we're going to make a twisted, weird kind of office dynamic survivor movie.

The real question I have.

So it's a Sam Raimi movie.

Is Bruce Campbell in it?

I won't spoil it.

He is technically.

Okay.

All right.

Really?

That's all I need to know.

Yes.

If there's an early scene, and I will say just keep an eye in the background of some really hard work.

Really?

We'll do.

Oh,

I love that.

I did not notice that, Matt.

Good eye.

Yeah,

it's a fun little, yeah, even Bruce still got in there.

Bruce Campbell's great and a legend.

All right, so that's Send Help.

We both totally recommend that.

Go more by what Matt says than me, but I really enjoyed it as well.

Matt, what about Shelter?

This did not play up here in Marinette at our little Cineplex,

but

it's a Jason Statham film that

You kind of feel like you've read the log line before, not groundbreaking, but it got good reviews.

100%.

The main character's name might as well be Basin Jorn.

He's basically, you know, it's basically what if Jason Bourne and what if John Wick and what if every Jason Statham movie put into a blender.

And I am not above enjoying that, you know?

It's very trite.

It's very derivative.

But listen, Jason Statham's very good.

playing gruff, former assassins who have a secret soft spot and are really good at hitting dudes in the head with pipes.

And I think Shelter delivers on that.

The guy who made it is a guy named Rick Romanois.

who's kind of like developed into a good kind of B-movie pulp guy.

He directed the Gerard Butler disaster movie Greenland.

And he's just, he's kind of really good at making, you know, B-movies that are a little bit better than you expect them to be.

And so that's kind of what shelter is.

It's, if you're expecting anything groundbreaking, you are in the wrong theater.

But if you are wanting to see just a classic early year,

Like, action movie that delivers Jason Statham punching dudes in the face?

Have I got the ticket for you?

Apparently not in Marinette, but anywhere.

That

movie was tailor-made for the Marinette crowd, and myself included.

I couldn't believe it wasn't here.

In fairness, it's a small, new distributor.

If you remember the Sydney Sweeney boxing movie that flops through the floor, it's this Black Bear studio that's trying to become a new distributor.

And so they're getting off the ground, and obviously it's a little rocky right now, but I'm happy to see people did show up for it.

It's performing about as well as the Melania doc, so I mean.

Well, this movie,

a shelter, and there's certain movies where the tomato meter, so to speak, doesn't really matter.

Like if this movie gets a 45, I'm like, oh, that's not terrible.

I'll watch it.

But it got a 62, so you feel a little bit better about watching

it.

That's pretty good.

And I will say the tomato meter is a hard metric to use, because sometimes a movie can get like a 90%, but everyone is like, it's pretty good.

And then sometimes the movie gets a 50%, but half of those people are like, this is the best movie of the

year.

The

other half just didn't like it.

So it's always still good.

And I'm not just saying that because I write movie reviews, but it's always good to actually read some reviews and find out more just beyond the tomato, the metro.

Right.

Great point.

You mentioned Greenland.

Did you see Greenland 2?

I did not, unfortunately.

I was hoping to, but I had to catch up with Greenland to the original because that was supposed to come out in theaters in 2020.

And obviously not much came out in theaters in 2020.

So I finally got around to it now and was like, that was pretty good.

Can't wait to see the new one.

And then the new one was gone.

For a week, that was probably the movie that came out that prevented me from seeing Shelter.

And then I wanted to see that one too, because I saw Greenland.

And I had this Gerard Butler kind of prejudice.

I was like, oh, he makes this movie about whatever.

But I kind of liked Greenland.

So I thought it was a pretty good post-apocalyptic type movie.

Yeah, I think that's on Max for HBO Max right now.

If you like disaster movies, it's a really well done one.

Surprisingly, it's like what if 2012 was good?

What if Roland Emmerich's 2012 or Independence Day was good?

Sorry, some people are shocked when I say I don't like Independence Day.

What about, did you see the rip?

I've not watched the rip yet.

I have a hard time making time to watch Netflix movies because yeah It's like the book that's on your shelf that you're like I'll get around to reading that and then you buy a new book and you read that one instead You write and it just sits on the shelf.

That's

That's like my issue with all Netflix movies.

I know it's at home waiting for me.

So I have no urgency to get around to it.

But I heard it's fun.

And I like, I like Affleck.

I like Damon.

I like Joe Carnahan.

He makes good, you know, gritty B-movie pulp.

So.

Yeah.

Yeah, I'd be interested to hear what you think of that.

And what about Train Dreams?

I know I've asked you about that.

Have you seen that yet?

I am holding out on Train Dreams because all the critics who loved it said that it is a great theatrical experience.

And it looks like.

That's going to be a part of Marcus Theodore's Best Picture

Show.

which

normally Netflix movies don't become a part of that.

But it looks like both Train Dreams and Frankenstein are going to have screenings as a part of that.

So I'm kind of holding out and hoping to see that on the big screen.

I'm very excited to check it out.

One of the producers did one of my favorite movies last year, Sing Sing.

I think Joel Edgerton's a really interesting actor.

And from what I've seen, it looks gorgeous.

So I'm really, that's the last of the big Oscar movies I've got to get to.

I thought so.

OK, that's why I asked him.

Yeah, that's a great way to describe Joel Edgerton, too.

Was Train Dreams, didn't it have to be in the theaters?

Was

it like there

for a week?

They did the most Netflix movies when they give them a theatrical release.

It's basically just on the coast.

It's basically New York, LA, maybe like Austin or Miami and Chicago, if we're lucky.

Rarely

do they come to Milwaukee.

but you know Frankenstein did come here and I think Netflix maybe they're trying to you know get into theaters to maybe encourage theaters to not hate the Warner Brothers deal maybe they're being a little looser now with you know putting stuff in theaters or you know maybe they're just maybe they're just tricking us as they always do

as they always do um all right one more I didn't usually we go over this before the show but I realized as we started talking there's a lot of movies I meant to ask you about and I did an anaconda

It wasn't my bag.

It's not scary enough and it's not funny enough.

I was kind of expecting it to be worse and I think Paul Rudd and Jack Black and everyone in the movie, Tandui Newton and Steve Zahn, they're all professionals.

They're

all going to

make you smile at least once or twice.

But I think that movie's kind of a like, okay, either be scarier or be funnier.

And it kind of ends up being pretty forgettable.

But you know what?

I am happy to see a comedy do well at the box office.

Yeah, but that movie's made like $70 million quietly over the past two months.

And I think it's made like 200 worldwide for a movie that everyone has forgotten existed.

So

it was funny because it was at the discount theater up here and my wife and I went and there was about 10 other people in the theater and I had a

a low bar,

but I

laughed.

There was a couple times I laughed and I thought it was like, I'm not watching that movie at home.

So I thought, if we're gonna go see this, let's go see it in the theater.

And it was fine for what it was.

Matt Miller

is here, folks.

It's actually the way to phrase it.

It's fine for what it is.

And I agree with you.

It is the highest bar you can do with that movie.

You said it wasn't funny enough or scary enough.

theory on most action comedies is they're not that funny and the action sucks and it's not believable to find a good one is really tough so Matt let's talk about we're gonna do a very short break and then let's come back and I would love to hear you tell us what we should kind of keep an eye out for maybe if you don't mind.

I would love to.

All right.

What else are we doing here?

That's why we're here conglomerating here on the radio tonight, folks.

Matt Miller is here.

We're going to do a very short break.

We'll come back and we'll have a few more minutes and then we'll wrap this up.

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She's so high.

It's just what music does, Matt.

It's like, you don't realize how great a time you're having until you hear a tune from that era 20 years later.

It's such a joke that God puts on us.

That's a great song.

Oh, man, I bet you no one had Tal Bachman on their big old car tonight.

Well, it was great.

We've been, uh, Zomras is on a 90s kick.

So it's been fun.

Uh, this is Pete Schwabba and nightlight.

Matt Miller is here.

Milwaukee film critic.

We're talking about movies.

Boy, Matt, uh, there's a lot of movies opening this weekend and some that are reviewing pretty well and a nice array of films opening different genres.

Yeah, we took last weekend off, apparently, for the Super Bowl, but there's some fun, interesting stuff coming this weekend.

The one I'm most excited about is, good luck, have fun, don't die.

Yeah.

Hey, because with a title like that, it's gotta be good.

Gotta

be.

But

also, this is the first movie, and I think like 10 years from Gore Verbinski, who directed the original three Pirates of the Caribbean movies.

He directed The Ring.

Um, he's just a weird, fascinating director who clearly, like, like Hollywood isn't ready.

Hollywood was like, oh, we like your weirdness.

And then he got too weird and they were like, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no.

And now he's coming back with this movie with Sam Rockwell.

Hey, Richard.

really interesting cast and it's like an anti-AI movie.

It is a movie about Sam Rockwell coming from the future to try to get people to rise up against this artificial technology that is like a Terminator type situation.

So I'm already in the bag for a premise like that.

Sam Rockwell's great Sam Rockwell working with Gore Verbinski seems like an incredible weirdo's combination.

I really hope that does well this week and I'm really excited about that one.

Sam Rockwell, what is it?

He's one of those guys that's just got it people love Sam Rockwell and he elevates He's not like a he's kind of an a-lister but not like when it comes to box-off He's one of those guys if he's in the movie it adds a certain level of street cred or something

he's a he's a character actor and he always brings like back back up to like galaxy quest you know stealing scenes in that movie and he just I mean he's maybe the only good part of iron man too like he he just always brings an energy to a movie which I think is maybe why it was kind of sad that he got stuck in like oscar bait land where after like around three billboards which I I think he's fine in three billboards that's not my favorite oscar win

he

kind of got stuck playing

like racists and southerners and George W. Bush and vice and like he kind of got stuck in prestige stuff and it's like no man let let Sam Rockwell be weird again and I'm glad it seems like hopefully he gets to again this weekend.

That's awesome and you've also got uh let's see there's a kid's move oh you got weathering heights.

Crime 101 what have

you heard about that Matt crime 101?

uh the crime 101

yeah that's the uh is it uh chris hams

yeah hemsworth hallie barry mark ruffalo really good cast i'm i'm interested because the director i believe his name is bart leaton he directed a really good documentary from like 15 years ago called the imposter which was kind of like

kind of came up at this time when true like it came around the same time as man on wire where reenactments and documentary were kind of playing with the idea of reality in them and kind of playing with truth and fiction and

if you

haven't seen the imposter really good true crime documentary um and so i'm kind of interested what he does with uh kind of a what looks like a meat and potatoes crime movie like this uh i'll watch it and i'm not seeing any

thing that turns me off of it.

You've got also we've got about a minute or two left Matt cold storage and I bring that up because Joe Curia is everywhere thanks to Stranger Things and his Chicago song.

Another one of those guys I'm not comparing him to Sam Rockwell but just has a quality about him people seem to like.

Yeah, if you like Joe Keary, you should see the documentary, mockumentary about pavements that came out last year.

Joe Keary plays, like, a version of the lead singer in the fake biopic they're making in that movie, and he's really funny.

He, like, really stands out in that movie.

Yeah, this cold storage movie is weird, because it's also, I believe, written by David Kepp.

who wrote Jurassic Park and wrote the upcoming Steven Spielberg Disclosure Day movie.

And it's like he wrote Black Bag last year.

Like he is an iconic modern screenwriter and he's making this Liam Neeson, Joe Keery, horror comedy looking thing that it's just like, what was this, David?

Did you find this under your like, is this like a college script that you found?

And you were like, I don't know, I guess we could film this.

So it's kind of strange that that movie exists.

, yeah

She picks interesting movies.

So I'd be interested to see, you know, it's an interesting, weird mix of movies right now.

You know, I think box office is going to be maybe the greatest thing anyone's ever seen.

But this is kind of what a healthy cinema world should be like.

You know, you've got a swoony romance movie and you've got a weird horror movie and you've got a crime movie and you've got this weird original anti AI movie.

This, this is what I want.

You know, I'm totally with you.

And that's all this week.

So yeah.

Good, a lot, lots of stuff to see and a lot of stuff is reviewing pretty well too.

Matt, my friend, always fun.

Thank you, sir.

Can't wait till we can do this again.

Pete, this is always the greatest.

Thank you so much for having me.

Back at you.

Thanks, sir.

Matt Miller, everybody.

Check out his work at a Man About Film sub-stack.

He does outstanding reviews, and he'll keep you in the loop, especially with what's happening in Milwaukee regarding film 2.

A couple more texts here.

Craig Anthony Kinit says, the great train robbery, one of the first edited movies.

Well done, Craig.

And then we've got Bridget on the stream, and the 818 says, the printing press, spread knowledge, developed literacy.

Well done.

All right.

Outstanding text tonight, Zomers.

Anything?

Absolutely.

And a lot

of movies I'm looking forward to this weekend.

Yeah, same.

Tomorrow night, Rob Thomas, Greg Bach, and Mariah Kohler.

Thank you, everybody, on behalf of the multi-talented Aaron Zomers.

I'm Pete Chihuahua saying, good night, Wisconsin.

It's a delicious cheese sandwich.

A delicious cheese sandwich.

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