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Wisconsin Winter Wonders: Sturgeons, Spirits, and Slow Dances
Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Tue Feb 3, 2026
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This is Night Light with Pete Chwaba.
Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.
And now, a guy who appreciates a nice hot meal at a fair price.
Pete Chwaba.
Hey!
Welcome to Night Light.
Didn't see a stand in there.
Welcome to the show, folks.
This is a Tuesday night in the beautiful state of Wisconsin, and gather the whole family around the radio tonight, folks, because I have an excellent show for you.
Great guests, lots of fun topics to discuss, a great question.
But first, let's say hello to the man, the myth, the legend.
I don't know about the legend.
He's not quite there yet, but I'm talking about, of course, Conrad with a K, Krieger.
Hello.
Hey, buddy.
I
gotta give a special shout-out to my mom.
It's her birthday.
Hey, that's fantastic because I cough into the mic.
Nothing like celebrating.
That's a birthday cough, though, for what it's worth.
Happy birthday, Mrs. Krieger or Paula.
Do you think I'd be on first name basis with your mom at this point?
I think so.
It's been over two years, so I think.
Yeah.
She can call me Pete.
She's not listening, though.
Why
not?
She's having a margarita.
She's having a... Can't you do both?
It's a beautiful thing about radio.
I still want to give a shout out.
Yeah.
Are you going to tell us how old she is?
She's 30.
Wow.
Yeah.
My brother's older than
your brother's older than your mom.
Okay.
Only I'm sure you're from Wisconsin.
Um, happy birthday, Mrs. Krieger, Paula, Steve's wife, whatever you prefer, Conrad's mom, nightlight listener.
Hope you have a great day and take it easy on those margaritas.
Conrad has told us at length how you and Steve got him hammered on his 21st birthday.
So.
Yes, that is true.
Are they in Florida right now?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Yep.
She, she, well, I called her this, you know, earlier to say happy birthday and she said, yeah, it's, it's 70, it's cooling down.
Okay.
You know what, mom?
I take it back.
It's a, I was like, you know, it's, it's like 20 degrees here, but it feels like probably like, you know, 10 or whatever, but.
Because
of the wind chill you mean?
Yeah.
See I feel like it feels warmer because it's been so damn
cold.
It actually did feel like when I walked out of my apartment I was like, shorts?
Yeah.
I know, it's insane.
Not for you though, you're a shorts, you're on shorts guy.
No, not really anymore, but
that's true.
I think when I met you, you were.
But lately you seem like you've kind of converted to more commonsensical approaches to winter dress.
Yeah, I've been wearing pants more.
You know, that's good.
Yeah, it's good in the winter.
You're proud, Wisconsinite.
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That's coming up.
We will keep you informed here at Civic Media as always.
And some great guests tonight.
But first, also on the show, probably in the next segment, we're going to talk about our Olympian of the day.
We're profiling one Olympian, not like a serious deep dive, but just giving you someone to cheer for as the Olympics creep ever closer.
Opening ceremonies are this Friday night.
And we've been talking about some of the athletes from Wisconsin.
And we've done some homework today, and we have another great athlete that we will tell you about after the break.
He is in the Luge event.
I mean, how cool?
It's very cool, but you know what's weird?
They call them losers, which sounds too much like losers.
I don't like that.
Actually, I got a small clip I can play for you about the Luge.
It's pretty funny, right?
Yeah, go
for it.
All right, here we go.
No one said it would be easy, but it's all worth
it when I'm out on the slopes with my board.
When I'm on the ice, I feel alive.
It's my purpose.
I
hate the Luge.
It's way too fast.
It scares me to death, and I seriously hate it.
I've been wanting this my whole life.
I'm living my dream.
This is a nightmare.
I hate the thing I'm
good
at.
Who is that?
I can't think of
anything.
Is
that Kate McKinnon?
No, it's SNL.
It's one of the newer cast members, but it's very funny.
Dying laughing.
I would hate it too.
Let's get man one false move Or somebody throws a pebble out onto the loose track
and it's funny like they continue as it was a pretty long clip But they're like she always pretends to be sick before she goes off when her coach is like no no
go down So we'll do that in the second segment after the break just before the news and we will tell you we got a nice clip from Mike Clements who will join us on Friday night here and give us a rundown from radio row at the Super Bowl but Mike shared part of an interview he did with
What's the wolf kid's name?
Elliot.
Elliot Wolf.
Yeah.
Who's a rock star.
Yeah.
GM.
Assistant.
Or is he an act?
He's an actual GM.
Patriots.
Patriot.
Oh my God.
So he's, uh, you could almost say he's far.
He hasn't out.
He hasn't exceeded his dad's accomplishments.
His dad won a Super Bowl.
He's a
rock star.
A lot.
He's worn a lot of hats.
Yeah.
Is Green Bay getting Green Bay?
Sorry to have.
Not been able to keep them?
You can say that for a lot of people, the backers of Let Go.
Can't keep everybody, I guess.
Let's not waste any more time, folks.
Let's get to tonight's nightlight question of the night.
Let's talk about the question.
Okay, question.
Question.
Question.
Pregunta.
Question.
Question.
Okay, I have a question.
Questions.
This question.
Domanda.
Question.
Question.
Questions.
What is the best slow dance song?
We all have those songs They come on the car making us pine for someone maybe from our past or our spouses But what's a great song to slow dance to?
Remember take yourself back to like a high school dance or in a bar when you met someone
Give me your best slow dance song, 855-752-484-2855-75 Civic.
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Your favorite slow dance song.
Con, why don't you start us off tonight?
I said Low by Flo Rida.
Is that a joke?
Have you ever answered a question in all seriousness?
Are you afraid to show that side of yourself?
Conrad's
serious side.
I haven't slow danced to a song.
Ever?
No, our prom our dances weren't like that like in high school like they
were all
like I don't know upbeat music They're like keep your distance in a public school.
Yeah.
Oh
my god
That's crazy.
I wonder if that's a like a generational thing or whatever.
Yeah, it's it definitely was like if I watching movies or whatever
Yeah,
especially back to the future like that scene where Marty's playing the guitar Mine was like not even even close to that
Oh, that's hilarious.
Yeah, I that was part of the fun of high school dances.
I thought was kind of pairing off or asking that girl to dance or that guy to dance.
So if you were deprived of that, like Conrad was, I feel bad for you, but take us back in your past and let me know what your favorite slow dance song is.
Well, anyways, low, you know, is the apple bottom jeans boots with the fur?
You're gonna do better than
that.
I
can't go
any further than that.
Yeah, I can't go further than that.
They're
swearing in it?
I say innuendos that you don't need to say on the radio.
Innuendos never hurt anybody.
I'm gonna say how deep is your love by the Bee Gees.
I love that song.
And also I have co-leaders always on my mind by Willie Nelson.
Two very beautiful songs that make you
If you were in a room full of dudes or girls You'd wish someone from the opposite sex or same sex was there to slow dance with how deep is your love and always on my mind?
Those are my two let us know folks be part of the show I Have to just get something off my chest con because okay Sherry Shepherd's show was canceled her talk show and I got an email last night Sherry was supposed to be on the show tomorrow night
And I got an email from her people last night that says, I'm so sorry, Sherry's Milwaukee date was canceled.
So we're going to have to cancel this interview, which made sense if she's not playing in Wisconsin.
I get that.
And then today I wake up a text from my brother, Andy, who said, Sherry Shepard show, I think it was Andy who said, it was, the whole show is canceled.
She's off the air after
four
seasons.
So I feel bad for her, but I'm the one that has to scramble for a guest for tomorrow night.
So we know who the real victim here
is.
Yeah.
Yeah, definitely you.
I think so.
Yeah.
And you know, it's me anyway, because Sherry Shepherd probably has socked away millions of dollars and I actually wrote promos for her at lifetime years and years ago.
And I thought she was wonderful.
She's a very nice person.
So I'm sad that she will not be on the show, but we will do our best to replace Sherry, the irreplaceable Sherry Shepherd.
You know who she is, right?
From
friends.
I can't think I'm Rhonda.
Yes.
And these aren't real.
Yeah.
Chypchinary
told that
story last week.
I already knew who she was, but it's funny.
And then she calls that other guy out when they're sitting at the separate tables and she's like, hey, Peter!
Man, I shared my pudding with you.
It's very funny.
So we will fill Sherry's hard to fill shoes tomorrow.
But that was sad news.
And Kelly Clarkson, another daytime talker.
But apparently, her show is going away after this season because she is walking away to spend more time with her kids.
I guess I didn't know this because I don't follow a lot of gossip websites, but her husband passed away last year, and she wants to spend more time with her kids.
So that's admirable.
Her show's
been
on for seven seasons.
Wow.
Yeah.
So two shows coming to an end further.
murking up the daytime talk waters.
We missed a text last night.
I think our question was, if you had to share a voice with a cartoon character, who would it be?
And Dan Thine on social media said Foghorn Leghorn, and somebody else said that.
And I knew I saw that somewhere.
So Foghorn Leghorn, that was a good one.
Thank you, Dan.
Sorry we missed you last night.
We usually try to get to everybody's texts.
Tonight on the show, ladies and gentlemen,
After news, sports and weather, which comes up in just about 13 minutes, we've got Carl Lohenstein from Sturgeon Spirits, a great distillery just outside of Oshkosh.
They've got a big event coming up.
Carl is also a sponsor of Nightlight, and I love reading his ads.
They're very well done, very well put together and written.
Carl will be here in studio to tell us about a really cool event to celebrate the third anniversary of Sturgeon Spirits coming up.
We'll talk to Carl, who will be...
here in person, which is fun.
And then coming up in hour number two tonight, this is going to be fun.
John Roach, this is a guy I met last, not even a year ago.
And I connected with John immediately.
We just kind of hit it off.
And I'm such a huge fan of his.
Con, do you remember the show he created in Chicago years ago when he was still living in Chicago doing like...
TV producing and stuff.
What was it?
He created a show called The Sportswriters on TV.
Yes, that's right.
It was all these old newspaper columnists with these fedoras and their chomp and cigars in a dark room talking about sports.
And they had newspapers and it was like this just a really cool show like nothing I'd ever seen before.
Anyway, John created that.
He also co-wrote the film The Straight Story for David Lynch with Mary Sweeney.
And that there was, I think...
That film got a couple Oscar nods.
Not best picture, but maybe for best actor.
And it was just a really sweet film shot in southwestern Wisconsin.
If you haven't seen the film, I gave it a rewatch before John was on the show several months ago.
And it was totally worth it.
It holds up.
It's a beautiful story about a guy who gets on a tractor because he can't drive from Iowa to Wisconsin to see his ailing brother.
A really sweet story.
And John's new show is...
A Road at Night about Howard Moore, the UW-Madison basketball player, and his family who were in a terrible car accident.
John did a great documentary.
He's got an announcement about it.
So he's going to be here at 6.35.
And then at 7 in the 7 o'clock hour, act three, Bode Benz joins the show.
He's got a short film, a Western, playing at the Dork County Film Festival next week.
So we'll talk to Bode about his film, too.
So there you go.
Questions, a guess.
And when we come back, we're going to hear from Mike Clemens, and we're going to tell you about our Olympian spotlight.
This is Pete Schwabba in Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Welcome back.
I'm Pete Schwab, and this is Nightlight.
Great to have you with me.
Our question of the night is, what is your favorite slow dance song?
We've got news sports and weather in just about seven minutes followed by our pal Carl Lowenstein who will be here in studio talking about a really cool event in honor of Sturgeon Spirits third anniversary an outstanding distillery just outside of Oshkosh and He bought me a mocktail Conrad.
I mean,
that's pretty cool.
Very excited about that
because I'm
really thirsty, too So hey Mike Clemens does outstanding work here at Civic Media covering sports in the NFL and
He shared with us.
He's gonna be on the show Friday to give us an update on the upcoming Super Bowl, but he shared a clip with us that he Of his discussion with Elliot Wolfe who is the son of Ron Wolfe former Packers admit GM right Khan.
Yeah, correct
Yeah, and Elliot Wolfe is a rockstar too.
So let's play a few minutes of Mike's interview with Elliot Wolfe
With Patriots Vice President, General Manager Elliott Wolfe.
Elliott, you grew up in Green Bay.
Was it Notre Dame Academy?
Yeah, I mean, NDA really helped shape me into the person I am today.
Made a lot of good friends, a lot of great friends that I still keep in contact with.
Probably keep in touch with more people from Notre Dame than I do from college.
So, you know, just the people there are tremendous and it was a great experience.
You know, we heard stories from Ted Thompson that he used to have to babysit you when you were in junior high growing up in Green Bay.
Is that true?
Yeah, he never babysat me.
I mean, so I would go into the office after school and I would sit in his office and watch film with him.
Maybe that's what he's talking about.
He never actually babysat for me.
I think he's kind of giving me a hard time there.
Yeah, so one night Ted told us, yeah, you know, he was like in junior high and he helped me set the board.
Yeah.
Yeah, help set the board.
That was just something I was always really interested in.
And, you know, obviously having that opportunity as a young person was pretty cool to be able to do that.
You got any 14-year-old setting up your board these days?
No, our college director's son's come in a couple of times to watch film, Tony Cankela's son.
So it's been pretty cool to, you know, kind of give back and you kind of see yourself in their shoes.
For all those years though that you were working around Ted Thompson when he came back from Seattle,
to become the general manager of the Packers, working alongside Ted all those years.
Is there part of you that still is in your mind about things that Ted would say or do that has helped you along the way?
Absolutely.
Still think about what Ted would do in a lot of situations.
And really just his patience is something that I always take into consideration.
He was very patient, methodical, deliberate, would be the positive things you would say about it.
And I find myself kind of
at times overthinking or thinking about things the way that he did and just trying to make the best decision for the team.
So with Dorsey a couple years in Cleveland and here scouting you know up to the point now Vice President de facto GM.
I don't know this feels like this happened pretty fast.
How's it felt for you?
It's been great you know and just give a lot of credit to Coach Rable and the coaching staff and obviously the players that have come in.
and kind of built on with his vision, his identity for the team.
And it's been exciting to see the rewards of that one more to go here.
You know, sometime after the Packers won Super Bowl 45, people began to wonder who might be the next general manager of the Packers.
And there was a consensus that Elliott Wolfe was being groomed to be the next GM after Ted.
You heard those things, right?
Yeah, nothing but great times in Green Bay, obviously.
some tough losses in championship games and division rounds and things like that but it's really shaped me into who I am today.
I learned from a lot of great people.
and just the Packers are a first-class organization.
So, Ellie, you know that Packer fans now, they say, wait a minute now, we won a Super Bowl with Ted.
John Schneider left, took the Seahawks with Pete Carroll to a couple of Super Bowls.
Ellie, it's only been in charge of the Patriots two seasons.
Both these guys have got their teams in the Super Bowl.
What's going on with Brian Good at Kingston Green Bay?
I mean, I think Brian's doing a great job drafting free agency.
He's got the right system in place.
He's got a great process, and I think
They have a great team.
Talking with Patriots General Manager Elliott Wolfe.
So how critical is the timing, the right talent, making the hires like Mike Rable after he got released by Tennessee or drafting a quarterback like Drake May?
Yeah, I mean, I think those are obviously the head coach and the quarterback are the two toughest ones to get right.
And we've certainly gotten them right.
So we're excited about that.
And hopefully this is a long term success here for us.
You work with John
Schneider.
That's Mike Clemens, Civic Media Sports Authority, doing the great work that he does.
That was an interview with Elliot Wolfe, the son of Ron Wolfe, former Packers GM, who is now a GM for the Patriots and already has them in the Super Bowl.
That's nauseating.
Yeah.
Well,
bless
you.
Thank you.
It is.
It's like, you know, a very serious guy, though, don't you think?
The
guy does not mess
around.
Mike kind of like tried to josh with
him a little bit there.
He wasn't
having it,
so.
No, he was not.
But that's probably why he's good at his job.
So thank you, Mike, for sharing that with us.
Mike is outstanding.
All right, our Olympic spotlight athlete tonight, folks, is a member of Team USA, and he competes in the doubles luge.
Marcus Mueller, he's a Brookfield native.
You read about this guy a little bit, Khan.
What'd you think?
Pretty cool guy.
I mean, first of all, he
competes in the luge.
Yeah,
insanity.
The doubles, which just right there is just like, I respect you a lot.
Totally.
Because I mean, just going down those like, I don't know what they're called, ice tracks going fast is scary.
They compete at speeds of up to 90 miles
an
hour.
And his introduction to the sport occurred when he was 11.
He was recruited by a recruitment guy who came to Wisconsin, searching for future competitors.
He's only 20 now Marcus Mueller and he is competing with his partner Ansel He's
from Massachusetts That's
right two good winter states he is 21 from farming to, Massachusetts so a lot of youth on that luge and Their spots this is I found this interesting they won their first gold cup metal at Lake Placid just in December
and they got their spots on the team in January.
Last month, is that true?
Or is that like last year?
I believe it was this year,
yeah.
That's insanity.
So cheer for Marcus Mueller, folks.
A Wisconsin boy from Brookfield, very cool stuff.
He said his parents, girlfriend, and brother will be making the trip to Italy to cheer him on, and we can too, from the warmth and comforts of our own living room.
Go Team USA and go Marcus Mueller.
Very exciting stuff.
When we come back after news sports and weather,
Our pal Carl Lohenstein will be here from Sturgeon Spirits.
Let's do it, folks.
It's Night Light with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.
It is a Tuesday night in the beautiful state of Wisconsin, and it is great to have you here, folks.
I don't want to call this a party, Conrad, but it's about to be, because our next guest brought the goods.
Also, I want to acknowledge a text.
This is from John, and our question tonight, folks, if you want to get in on the fun, is what was your favorite slow dance song?
And John from Columbia County says, Spirit.
Randy, California, I don't know what words of those are the song, maybe all three of them, maybe just one of them, but he says, oh no, there we go.
I got a line on you.
Spirit, Randy, California, I got a line on you.
My wife and I had crazy sex to this.
So here's the issue I have.
That's kind of vague.
Crazy sex conjures images of him in a bunny suit and his wife swinging from a trapeze or something and trying to land on him, or...
Two people who are just happy to be having sex.
Crazy sex is a very vague term, John.
So feel free to elaborate if you prefer.
But you're welcome to keep that to yourself as well.
It's very personal stuff.
Thank you for the text.
That's great.
All right.
I'm very excited.
My next guest comes to us all the way from the Fox Valley.
And he's become a Knight like regular.
And he is my favorite former professor at UW Oshkosh.
That's a
small list, I think.
It's bigger than you might think, Carl.
And I will elaborate on that.
But he is now the owner of Asturgeon Spirits, an outstanding distillery just outside of Oshkosh.
And he joins me now here in the studio, Carl Lowenstein.
Hey, buddy, how are you?
I am good.
How are you?
Good.
It's exciting.
Let's break out.
Let's not waste any more time.
Carl, I read ads for Carl.
He's a nightlight sponsor, which I'm thrilled about.
And he brought...
The hard stuff and the soft stuff
right so with dry January we did a little promotion We called it a drink together and so we made a whole bunch of new cocktails unique to us Where we did a mocktail non-alcoholic version and then a similar flavor profile except with a little extra kick to it
Yeah, we called that catch and release so we're drinking basically the same thing here Tell us what this drink is if you're watching on the stream you can see the
that's
right.
So it's a
drink
Blackberry, raspberry, lemon, and a splash of lemonade to top it off.
On the NA side, we use blackberry syrup and raspberry syrup.
And on the cocktail side, I'm using our own blackberry brandy, raspberry syrup, and then again, that lemonade.
So it's a really nice, matched flavor combination.
Even Pete can join us in a toast.
I you know what even if this was the hard stuff I'd probably take at least a couple sips cheers buddy.
This this is gonna be good.
I'm excited.
Yeah.
Oh See I really wanted to give I really you should text in and tell me you should take a taste of the the hard stuff just to compare the two But I don't know how hardcore he is off.
Why?
Here's what I've done since I stopped kind of an informal stop at my uncle's funeral.
I had a shot of Miller
highlight Miller light because that was his favorite beer and then my son had this old-fashioned at a fish fry about six months ago and it looked kind of different I said give me a taste of that I took a big gulp and that was it so that's the only booze I've had in three years so I would I would take a little taste just to see the difference though absolutely can we do this Conrad
Can we have alcohol and okay
wait you were just talking about sex 30 seconds ago, and
now alcohol is somehow worse There's no regulations though when it comes to all my conversations about sex are basically PG-13 Maybe occasionally NC-17.
Is it okay if I absolutely it's even better from the mason jar.
Oh, that
smells good What if this is what turns me into you know a full-blown raging?
So I can tell you a story.
I'm really excited about it.
So the brandy.
You know what?
These go really
well.
Isn't that nice?
There's a kick, but it's still, that's great.
I mean, it's a sweet one.
It's a sweet cocktail, but it's a lot of fun.
And the brandy is really special because it's a collaboration that we did with a really good friend of mine over at Ziggler Winery.
And they got me some really nice red wine and we distilled that and put it in a barrel for almost a year.
And it made this phenomenal, phenomenal brandy that we're giving a little twist to Blackberry because, you know, Blackberry is the Wisconsin winter kind of thing and hunting and fishing.
You got to have a little Blackberry.
Wow.
So is that a thing?
Blackberry is a... Blackberry
brandy is a huge thing.
Everybody's grandma gave them Blackberry brandy for their, you know, their bad gums and, you know, get them to go to bed and you ask somebody who grew up here and they'll had
been drinking...
Bedtime sack.
So
drinking
Blackberry brandy when they were sick or they had some other problem.
Grandma always had a bottle.
This is great.
And I love your idea that people, like, would you say it's become more commonplace?
That there are people, less people drinking now.
The mocktail market, I would think, is booming just so people can still hang out together.
Because there's a place in Marinette called the Blue Room.
They make mocktails, and everybody's going.
I'm not going to not go, but I want to know that I have something there, too, just like you do at Sturgeon Spirits.
Oh, yeah.
No, it's really.
It's a trend.
The data is showing young people, in particular, drinking a lot less.
But older people haven't cut back quite as much.
But I think the poll just last week said,
the lowest number ever percentage of Americans say they're drinking.
And it was, you know, 56% or something like that.
Is
that right?
So it's really been dropping over the last few years.
And so that's kind of what we're doing.
But the other thing I would say about our space is that we're all about it's a it's a hangout spot.
So
you
come in, we don't have TVs, you know, we don't have loud music.
It's just some nice jazz in the background.
It's like, come in and talk with your friends.
You want a place where you just hang out a little bit?
That's our place.
It's community.
Yeah,
you know, yeah, third space kind of stuff.
I mean,
I don't know if you've talked about that, this notion of just a public space where you can get together with friends and make new friends.
I love it.
You've got a really big event coming up on Valentine's Day, which I think is kind of fun.
Tell us about that.
Well, I mean, this is my favorite season.
I'm a winter guy.
I love winter.
And I think the coolest thing in...
Wisconsin in winter is the sturgeon-spearing season on Lake Winnebago.
I think it's the most crazy thing that I can imagine.
The lake freezes over right now.
There's at least 24 inches of ice almost everywhere
on the lake.
Is that true?
Take your truck
right out there, drive right out on the lake, and then to catch a sturgeon, you cut a big ass hole.
Can I say that?
You can say that.
See?
Mr. No Sex Talk.
They put a kind of big hole in the ice, put your shanty over the top of it and wait for a sturgeon to swim by.
And
that's the spirit.
That's exactly what they do.
They cut a hole and they just...
You probably have to do it so fast though.
Oh, they swim slow.
They swim slow.
They're cold.
Yeah.
Right.
And then, you know, some people kind of have their hooks hang in from the top and you drop it down and you see it.
But really, it's also just a good excuse to hang out with your buddies and drink.
Which is like what a lot of, you know, playing cards, fishing, whatever.
Yeah.
So, but wait a minute.
Okay.
So if you have 24 inches of ice and you got a hole, let's say ice beer, a sturgeon.
Where am I?
How am I bringing that up?
Well, I mean, they're
huge.
It's a struggle sometimes, right?
These fish can be 100 plus pounds, right?
And so, you know, they're big spears.
They have tines on them.
So once you get it in the fish, you know, the fish is not getting away.
But it could be a struggle.
I mean, the last year was 172 pounds was the largest fish caught.
So,
I mean, the hole is big enough.
So you pull it up through the hole.
Yep.
Okay, that yeah, that's have you ever done this?
I've never caught a surgeon.
Okay.
I have license I've been out I you know, I not not my favorite thing I'd rather be doing other things, but I like to you know make sure everybody has what they need
Yeah,
and so our crazy thing this year is we're gonna have a full cocktail bar on ice
that mile out on the lake Wow, so and it'll be a truck.
Is that how you're doing it?
You'll have a truck
Parked on the lake Lake Winnebago.
Yep.
We're gonna very well this year.
We're going whole hog We're gonna have some tables out there.
We're gonna bring out our little patio heaters those down blast heaters We're gonna have a functioning bar so you can have some cocktails you can do sampling We're gonna give away coffee in the mornings if you have to be on your way to the shack You can stop by and get a cup of coffee from us.
Yeah,
but
we're gonna be a mile out
so Here's what I find fascinating is that like you're a winter guy.
I'm not
But I always say to my wife, we need to find a way to embrace winter.
And a fun event like this is exactly how you do that.
Like you said, you just talk to people.
You have a few drinks or coffee, whatever your jam is.
And that's how you get through winter with fun events.
Oh, yeah.
And tell us where the name Sturgeon Spirits comes from.
I'm guessing it has something to do
with.
Yeah, absolutely.
This is what I celebrate.
So I'm actually from Iowa.
So I moved up north when I, you know, 20.
five years ago and I came to Oshkosh and I'm like oh my god this is the best thing ever this giant frozen lake
and all
these fish and this whole experience and one of the things we used to do is just go out actually it was fun thing about sturgeon as you catch it right and then you have to take it to a registration station run by the DNR okay where they weigh it and
check it for age and it's controlled just like deer or anything else.
And that's how they saved the population right years.
And so I was like, oh my God, this is the coolest thing ever.
And then on top of that, the house I bought when I moved to town was built by sturgeon poachers.
So I live in a house that's got a lot of sturgeon history to it.
And the guy who built it was a German immigrant.
And he apparently had a.
like a lifelong poaching habit got run out of North Milwaukee ended up in up here up in Oshkosh nicest house on the block built like 1932 and I'm like who builds a beautiful nice house 1932 well
Criminals, right?
And then we met the son who grew up there and he's like, oh, yeah The police used to raid us all the time and try to catch us with illegal sturgeon.
They would
smoke in the
backyard They would clean him in the basement and then he apparently sold these smoked fish out of the back of his ice business his this legitimate ice business Starting in the 30s and it went all the way into up into the 60s and 70s because I've met folks who's like, yeah, I used to catch perch and I'd take them over to the Goykes and they'd smoke them
for me and whatever else.
So I'm connected to the history, both in just my love of the event.
And then I'm actually
You know learned all about poaching through
first-hand experience sturgeon a prehistoric really cool fish.
Oh my god.
They're
they're ugliest thing ever, but they're 300 million years old They have been living this way for forever and they're so they're frickin amazing There's
just
incredible biology the ecosystems amazing the fact that they're still here is incredible
Testament to the cool stuff that Wisconsin's done for conservation over the years.
So I mean, everything about it is awesome.
And so I wanted to celebrate that in the name.
I love that.
I love that so much.
That is the voice of Carl Lowenstein, the founder of Sturgeon Spirits Distillery, a really cool outfit.
They are one of our sponsors here, and we love that they are.
And it's fun to read his ads every week.
We are drinking.
Tell us again what this drink is, Carl.
It's called the
Bright.
and it's blackberry raspberry and lemon with a splash of lemonade on top the catch and release version one and a and one with a little beggar kick are you digging yours con
It's fantastic.
Is it already
gone?
I'm sipping
it because I'm savoring.
You're walking home tonight, so you don't want to jackknife.
I didn't give him that.
You guys are working.
You guys got the NA version.
That's right.
So all right, so tell it.
Do you know what the oldest fish you said they record the age and all that?
How do they tell that?
And do you know what the oldest fish that's been pulled out of like Winnebago is when it comes to sturgeon?
They can be up to hundreds.
So I know that they're pushing that.
And the way they do it, actually, it's in their fin.
It's almost like.
the way their fins grow and so they can actually take a little sample of the fin and
see how, you know, see how old the fish is that way.
Wow.
The other thing is the DNR has been tagging them for years.
And so a lot of the fishes have a tag tag in them or on them.
And so that's one of the ways they track the population.
Because the other cool thing about sturgeon is, you know, they swim up the Wolf River, they all spawn on the in the up in the rivers on their way out.
And so they can they're really easy to catch
when they're up spawning.
They we saw we've seen them in the Pesticle River up near a dam.
And it's
We saw probably one that was 12 feet, a couple 10 footers.
They are magnificent to watch just because of the history involved.
We're getting into another topic you're kind of an expert at.
But Carl Lowenstein is here, founder of Sturgeon Spirits Distillery.
They've got a great event February 14th.
We will remind you what that is when we come back and we'll talk more about these bitchin' cocktails we're drinking.
This is Nightlight with Peach Waba on the Civic Media Radio Network.
I'm
All right, so one of the best things about having a really cool sponsor like Sturgeon Spirits is the swag check out this t-shirt con I
mean that's pretty sweet
Carl's got his on Carl Lowenstein is here.
I'm Pete Schwab, but this is nightlight We're talking booze Sturgeon Spirits this great distillery in the valley.
They have a great event coming up February 14th right on Lake Winnebago a mile out tell us about the event again remind us Carl and then
The significance of these two cool shirts, so we're doing a
bar on the ice so that I suppose I want to preface by saying it's the first time ever in history that there's a legal bar on ice in, Wisconsin
Wow That it's hard to believe in Wisconsin.
I
just want to say legal
I'm
sure there have been many bars on ice
but
They changed the law back in 2023 and because I'm a distillery a producer We can have a special license and I'm like well how do that this has been my goal
I'm like, since I started, I'm like, how do we get out on the ice during spearing season?
Yeah.
And
they changed the law two years ago to make that possible.
And it was a pain to figure out because let me ask you this.
Who is in charge of the water?
I had to get permission from the governing municipality
of the
water.
Good guess.
Wrong.
Department of Water.
I don't know.
Right.
Well, then, yeah, so I checked with the DNR.
Nope.
I don't
know.
I checked with the county.
I'm like, well, is the county Winnebago County?
Nope.
It's not the county Winnebago County.
Checked with the city, right?
We're a mile in front of the city of Oshkosh.
Nope.
Not the city of Oshkosh.
It turns out that the small townships of the county divide up responsibility for the water.
So where we
are,
a mile east of Oshkosh is...
the town of Oshkosh, which is just a little, you know, like, I don't know, suburb, what do you call these little townships just north of town?
You know, a
few thousand
people kind of, they were all small municipalities, and for some reason they are the ones who are in charge of the water in front of the city of Oshkosh.
How on earth do you...
Mark that off.
That's gotta be.
And what do you do when you get out far enough?
I mean, how is that?
You know, I have no idea why it looks this way.
And actually Winnebago is divided into like six different townships have control of the lake.
So, you know, town of Oshkosh is in Oshkosh.
You go
up town of Manasha.
If you get to the north, go to the other side, or you go south to the town of Andine, it's all divided up.
But no cities, just townships, which is a bizarre thing.
But it worked out for
you.
Whatever you were able to navigate all that and
we went to the we went to the town the town of Oshkosh Mead again We had a really great discussion about it and mostly they're like why are we in charge of this?
Why do we
have to sign the form what
then you're like so I can have a bar right?
Exactly right and
It was super fascinating.
The town chairman was all, he was really doing his research.
He's like, I don't understand why this is.
There should be some.
When did this happen?
How did we get in charge of
it?
He's got a guy that owns a distillery telling him.
That's right.
Making him aware of it.
Well, we've got great cocktails.
He's got a cocktail.
I've got a mocktail.
We've got our shirts.
Conrad has already drunk, even though his was a mocktail.
I don't know how that happened.
Tell us about the next two weeks.
So you got February 14th, this great sturgeon spearing event.
And then you've got other stuff coming up.
So tell us about
that.
Absolutely.
So the Friday the 13th, we're doing, it's cut in day, right?
So that's the day you can legally take your shanty out and cut it into the ice.
We'll have our, open up our bar on Friday the 13th.
We're also having a ladies night at the distillery.
So we're doing a permanent jewelry thing and we're doing a tattoo thing.
So we're kind of doing a ladies night on the 13th.
So if your
guy is out setting up his shanty, you can always come in and have a cocktail and get some swag.
You saw the t-shirts.
What we're doing is only if you come out on the ice can you get this t-shirt that I'm wearing.
The first inaugural bar on ice t-shirt is only available a mile out on the way at Lake Winnebago for the days that were open.
So
how do people get out there?
Snowmobiles, walk, skate?
You can drive.
I drove out there just this week.
You know, the fishing clubs are great.
You got to watch the fishing clubs for your ice safety.
But they put bridges over.
There's occasional cracks that happen in the ice.
Because it's just such big sheets that move around.
And they have these long, they look like Murphy bridges.
You know, if you've ever watched a war movie, they put that thing
over the
river.
They've got them.
They lay them out.
You could just drive your car out there.
No problem.
The ice is so thick.
Part of the phenomenon.
But there are probably 5,000 people, maybe 10,000 people out on the ice every weekend
during the spearing season.
Wow.
Just driving the truck out there.
So what is the significance of my shirt?
This is not.
This is bar on ice, but is it yeah, we're
just you don't have to come see it So you want to come to the tasting room?
You can still get
a memento,
but you can't get the exclusive on-ice shirt that I have, okay?
We'll
be I want to
get you out there and we're gonna have some deals, but mostly it's super fun This has been one of my goals.
We pulled it off.
Yeah, and
I'm so excited that we can serve cocktails on the ice first time ever legally in Wisconsin
What kind of cocktail are these sturgeons?
beer fisherman going to go for do you think typically or what's been your experience if at all even though you weren't out in the ice what kind of drinks did they
like well we've got so the brandy is huge right so the brandy that's a new product for us so I think we'll sell a ton of brandy we're going to do the blackberry black brandy as well we've got a bourbon's we'll have some bourbons as well so we're leaning to it heavy on the bourbon and brandy cocktails we're doing the coffee and I figure a lot of guys will want a little something something in their coffee so we'll have
some of our
sweeter stuff and chocolate and
and some various other things to give your coffee, your morning coffee, a kick
in the ice.
Any idea what the weather is supposed to be like?
I know where it weighs out, but
it's looking pretty good.
I don't.
I
think we're not going to have that really harsh cold.
So
if
it's in the 20s, it would be awesome.
That's fantastic.
Okay, so Carl Lohenstein is my guest.
He's gonna stick around with us for a few minutes after the news And we will read some of your text after the news John Roach is here at 635 folks Outstanding filmmaker and director of the road at night.
He will be here at 635 and then Bode Benz will be here talking about his film which is in the Door County Film Festival in hour number three our question of the night What is the best slow dance song Sue and Middleton in the 608 says house of the rising sun?
the animals.
That's a great one.
It's a great slow song.
I don't, I can't see dancing to that though interestingly enough Sue, but you know what?
I don't tell Sue how to dance.
So there you go.
She says, or Unchained Melody.
Sue again.
Thank you Sue again.
You have some great taste.
We are coming right back after the news.
This is Pete Schwabba in Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.
This is Night Light with Pete Chwaba.
Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.
And now a man barely six feet tall but a mountain of muscle, Pete Chwaba.
Welcome back folks!
Alright, we are kicking off act number two here.
606 in the evening, a perfect time to talk about the things we love in this world and do it on the radio, movies, TV, comedy, sturgeon.
All kinds of fun stuff tonight.
If you missed hour number one, you're going to want to check that out in podcast form at civicmedia.us.
My guest was Carl Lowenstein.
He's still here.
We'll be back with Carl in just a moment, but we're talking about his great distillery in Oshkosh and a very cool event he has coming up.
I'll tell you more about that in just a moment.
Coming up this hour is John Roach.
He will be here at 6.35.
John and I first met.
at PBS Wisconsin last year for the Wisconsin Film Festival episode of Directors Cut, which I host on PBS, and I got to know John, and I love, love, love his work.
His resume is incredible.
Co-writer of The Straight Story that was directed by David Lynch and co-written by Mary Sweeney, drew some Oscar nominations, and he created this really cool show in Chicago years ago called The Sports Writers on TV, which was kind of sports radio before there was sports radio.
But tonight he will be joining me to talk about the screening coming up of his new film, A Road at Night, about UW basketball player and coach Howard Moore, who was in a terrible accident with his family.
John made a riveting and really gripping documentary, and it's about to be unleashed on the public, and I highly recommend you see it.
But he'll be here to tell us all about how we can do that.
And then in hour number three, Bode Benz, a filmmaker with a Western.
at the Dore County Film Festival, which launches next week.
I will be there giving the keynote address.
It will be fun.
Hope you come on out, but we'll talk to Bodie about his film in hour number three.
Our question of the night is what is your favorite slow dance song?
And we are falling a little bit behind on text, but we'll get to those in just a minute, folks.
So hang in there and let us know what you think is the best song.
to Slowdance, too.
Before we get back to Carl, we have a call, Conrad.
Who's calling us on Mom Bell?
Olly from the Northwoods.
Olly,
how are you?
Well, I'm fine.
First off, I'd like to say happy birthday to Conrad's mom, Paula.
Wow, is
that
sweet.
Keep being 30 for a long, long
time.
You know why that's so sweet that you're wishing Conrad's
Mom, a happy birthday, Ollie, because Conrad's mom doesn't really like you, but you're still
wishing.
Oh,
I'm kidding, Ollie,
of course.
Well, that's OK.
I still wish you a happy birthday.
Ollie, I can't imagine anybody not liking you.
The way to give people the like you is to be like a ball.
That's true.
And you are certainly that.
You're one of our faves, and you know that.
What's going on tonight?
Well, I'd like to say two songs.
One is Elvis.
Singing I can't help falling in love with great
one.
That's
a great other one was angel baby.
Oh, yeah, it was I from the 50s, right?
Yeah, I think it's like 50s or early 60s.
Um, I know it was sung by a woman.
Yeah, I don't know what the group was
Conrad can Google that.
Well, hang on.
After you hang up, listen, and we'll tell you who it was.
Conn is googling
that
as we speak, even though it's his mom's birthday.
Ollie, thank you so much as always.
Have a wonderful evening.
You too.
Bye-bye.
See, Carol, you know, it doesn't kill you to pick a slow song.
That's a nice dance song.
That's true.
That is totally true, I have a good idea to pick a spot.
Carl Lowenstein is here, folks.
He's the founder of Sturgeon Spirits, a really outstanding distillery that builds community as well as creates great cocktails and mocktails.
He is here in the studio and a nightlight sponsor, and we love his sponsorship.
And I love reading his commercials because he gives us recipes periodically.
That's kind of brave that you give out the recipes for people to make at home rather than come into your, I mean...
we're statewide so.
But I think it's a great one of the things that's made our place awesome is that I can't I can only take credit for finding great people to help who uh Tanya who is in at at the distillery today is an amazing flavor master and she can put together the best combinations that you can imagine you're trying one of her combinations right here today she in fact made that up
right before we left.
Really?
She said, uh, I said, I need something with Blackberry that we could do Blackberry and, you know, a nice berry thing.
And she's like, sure, done.
And that's what's great.
As we were talking earlier, folks, that less and less people are drinking.
You said 56% of Americans drink now.
Something like that.
Is it a little higher in Wisconsin?
I'm sure it is.
I don't think it was a dead
and headless and broken down by state.
But we've got, I've got a mocktail.
Carl's got a mocktail.
without the mock, and they're delicious.
So check out Sturgeon Spirits.
But before we forget, again, you told us about this great thing you're doing on the 14th, and we failed to mention that that's another, in addition to you having a bar out on the ice, a mile out on Lake Winnebago for Sturgeon Spearing, which is...
cool on its own.
It's also cool that it's Valentine's Day, but it's even cooler that it's a big day for Sturgeon Spirits.
Tell us about that.
That's right.
I totally forgot to mention because I love Sturgeon so much that it's our third anniversary.
We've made it three years
and
then it's been incredible, an incredible time and incredible experience.
And so we're celebrating that actually the second weekend.
So February 21st is our third anniversary party and we'll have a band and we'll have food
and
we'll have a lot of fun stuff going on and the distillery itself.
Todd will still be on the ice.
on the 21st if you want to come out and visit him then.
So we are going crazy to celebrate the sturgeon this year.
That's great.
I love how you got carried away with the sturgeon.
I forgot to mention your own true history professor like you used to be.
Tell us where sturgeon spirits is and what people can expect when they go there, if they go there to take a tour or whatever.
So our
place is in South Oshkosh.
It's 2663.
Oregon Street in Oshkosh.
And if you have some sense, we're right next to the airport on the east side of the airport.
We are just about two miles south of downtown.
We have a self-standing facility where we do all our production.
And then we have a tasting room and cocktail bar.
And in fact, you mentioned our flavors.
We have over 300 cocktails on our menu right now.
And new ones are being created even as we speak.
Pete is drinking a brand new cocktail that will be on the menu.
We probably should call it the Schwabba.
I
think that's got a nice ring to it.
I think we're gonna do that The Machu the Machuba So let me ask you this what is your I'm fascinated, but like when I when I drank it was always spirits I wasn't really a beer guy some wine I like and occasionally a beer, but I love spirits and I remember watching mash and they had a still
in their tent Hawkeye and BJ or a trapper and I thought man it'd be cool to make it just look like a cool process so I thought if I ever made my own alcohol it would be spirits I don't think that's gonna happen now but
Talk us through that process like how involved is it and what have you learned since you've been doing it?
Oh, I love doing it.
So this is my hobby I actually started distilling probably 10 years ago in my garage My wife kicked me out of the house because she was afraid I would blow it up So I had to be in the separated garage and I was you know out there in the cold
We're doing
meth too or something out there.
What you're boiling you're boiling of a volatile chemical, right?
That's so the way you distill okay as you take
Bake essentially beer or you take it make a mash that say 10% alcohol 11% alcohol So like a stiff beer and you essentially boil it in a pressure cooker and the chemistry is pretty simple in that the steam when it comes off that boiling liquid alcohol boils at a lower temperature than water so the first steam that comes off of a 10% alcohol solution is pure ethanol
And that's what you collect.
And so you're always watching your temperature.
You're keeping it between 172, which is the boiling point of ethanol, and 212, which is the boiling point of water.
And so that steam is alcohol steam.
And then you catch it and you run it in copper because copper cleans it up.
There's a chemical reaction that makes ethanol better when it touches copper.
And that's why stills have those big copper tops on them.
It's because it makes better.
booze.
And then you shock it with cold water, so that turns the steam back into liquid and collect it.
No
kidding.
And that's what they were doing.
If you think about Trapper, they had that really nice like lab set up, but that's all they were doing.
They would put essentially that beer or whatever they were making in the bottom and then you heat it and the steam that comes off is
your
alcohol.
Is it an expensive hobby?
Does it still cost a lot?
Do the materials cost a lot if people wanted to try it at home?
It's super easy.
I bought my first still off of eBay, I think.
I bought a little five-gallon pressure cooker with a copper.
It was really a piece of copper pipe stuck in the top.
So doing it on a small scale is super easy.
I probably paid $100 for it, and I just started playing with that five-gallon batches.
Now I'm running 150-gallon batches, so it's a much different.
animal and that's a lot of copper.
So it's not cheap anymore.
My guest is Carl Loewenstein.
He is the owner of Sturgeon Spirits, a distillery in Oshkosh.
They have a great event coming up February 14th.
They'll be serving for the first time ever, legally, booze out on the ice of Lake Winnebago while people will be spearing Sturgeon and laughing and talking.
It's going to be a fun event.
What else you've got?
That's Valentine's Day too.
What better?
Conrad, get a date and take her to Lake Winnebago.
But don't tell her what's up.
Just surprise her.
And then, Carl, you got your third anniversary celebration on the 21st a week later, correct?
Perfect, yep.
Very cool stuff.
How do you know when you have a good flavor?
Like, let's say this is excellent, but how much...
experimenting goes into this and how do you know when you when you have something or did you just taste it and it's like yeah that's great
I think of distilling is more of an art than a science I can almost tell by
the smell, whether something's going to be good.
And then actually, it's Tuesday night.
If you were having this talk in the distillery, Tanya is testing out the new cocktails on the customers.
No way.
So if you
happen to be in the distillery on Tuesday night, she's got a spread of six, seven, eight cocktails that she is putting together.
And she's like, what do you think of this one?
What do you think of this one?
It's awesome.
So 300 flavors, though.
How long did it take you to get
the 300 flavors?
We add them
all the time.
I don't even want to tell you, we have actually over 700 in our cocktail book.
So we've cut it down to only 300 that our customer is facing.
That's so great.
What are your best sellers?
I'll tell you this, let's do this.
If people come to Sturgeon Spirits, let's say they're listening to this and they're like, I got to check that out and they go in.
What would you have if they've never tried any of your products?
What would you steer them toward?
What's your specialty?
So our number one seller for all three years is an espresso martini and Part of the reason that is our vodka is terrific But we also make our own coffee liqueur that is a hundred times better than Kahlua
So you do
vodka our coffee liqueur and a shot of espresso
Best espresso martini you'll ever have and it's been our bestseller from day one
That is very convincing that sounds I'll tell you what when I come in there I will try that too and you can put the booze in it.
I'll even have a sip Conrad you need to tag along though and say you've had enough Pete
You can't be
officially on the wagon if you finish that whole damn martini
That's great stuff.
Check out Sturgeon Spirits, folks.
Carl does a great job, and he is a student of history because he was a professor at University of Wisconsin Oshkosh, and you could tell that your love of history and Sturgeon, right there, that's a parallel, and then booze as well.
It's great stuff.
This is outstanding, so thank you for coming in tonight.
Hey, thanks so much for having me.
It's been great.
It was good talking to you.
You too, buddy, and check out Sturgeon Spirits, and especially on the 14th out on Lake Winnebago.
their Lake Bar, and on the 21st, helping them celebrate their third anniversary.
That's impressive.
Three years.
A lot of businesses don't make it six months, right?
That's the hardest three years, they say.
Oh, well, good for you.
You're in the clear.
You're loaded.
I need a loan.
Carl Lohanstein, thank you very much.
We will be back to read your texts and get caught up with that.
And then John Roach comes by at 6.35 to talk about a road at night.
It's Pete Schwabba at Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio
Network.
Hey!
Happy Tuesday, everybody.
I'm Pete Schwabba.
This is Night Light.
It's great to have you here.
We are talking about movies and booze.
We got some movie talk coming up and a movie very close to Wisconsin's heart.
That's coming up at 6.35 when my pal John Roach joins the show to talk about his documentary A Road at Night, a really outstanding film that I cannot recommend enough.
Our question of the night is, what is the best song to slow dance to?
We do talk about music often on Nightlight, and tonight we're talking about dancing to that music.
You know, Conrad, I had one sip of that cocktail with booze in it, and I'm feeling it.
I don't think so.
You don't think so?
You don't think that's a problem?
Like, my tolerance is zero.
You don't think even a sip could have anything?
Maybe placebo?
Maybe.
I'm gonna have to call an Uber.
That's a $150 drink of that cocktail.
That's what it was.
Carl Lowenstein, always fun to talk to Carl.
That was great.
Mike from Madison in the 608 says, anything by Barry White.
Awesome, Mike.
That's a great text and I could not agree more.
Carolyn from Heartland in the 262 says, Knights and White Satin Moody Blues.
Again, a slow song.
I don't picture that as a song you slow dance to.
But you know what, Carolyn?
If the partner is right, it really doesn't matter.
So that's a great text.
Mike from Madison says, white punks on dope.
Not too familiar with that
one.
Is that a song?
Sounds very romantic, Mike.
Mark from Prairie to Sax says three times a lady to Commodores.
Yeah, you can't go wrong with Commodores great song 608 says unchained melody another vote for unchained melody by the righteous brothers classic slow dance song Jim from Brookfield says good evening Pete my favorite slow dance song is sleepwalk by the brothers santo and Johnny my wife and I slowly danced to that song late one night
On one of our first dates, we were married within a year.
I hope you played it at your wedding, Jim, because that is a great story and obviously a very influential song.
Thank you for the text.
Tony the Trucker in the 608 says, Pete, in seventh grade, we would slow dance to Hey Jude at Sock Hops in the middle school cafeteria and thought we were so cool.
I have no reason to believe you are not Tony the Trucker.
That's fun.
But you know Tony is showing his age kind you ever hear that phrase sock hop I Have not it's it's a dance, and I don't know where I think it's has something to do with Bobby socks But like a real 50s thing yeah, I would have loved to have experienced one of those Jim from Appleton says I think I read I'll read it again Just in case best slow dance song of all time is nights in white satin the moody blues and another vote for nights in white satin
John from Columbia County in the 608 says, not just that, 12 dreams of Dr. Sardinicious, Spirit Rocked, Rest in Peace, Randy, Last Saw in Chicago in 93.
John is very connected to that band.
Well, it led to wild sex.
Why wouldn't you be?
And again, what is wild sex, people?
It's different things to different people.
Some people are just happy having any kind of sex.
That could be wild.
Bridget in the 818 says heaven by Brian Adams our prom song.
I just loved it when I was younger Thank You Bridget.
That's a great text and I remember that song as well Mark from prairie to sack against as I've never gone to spear sturgeon, but I used to spear lawyers in the Magi River that goes into Lake Superior up north Now I have a lot of lawyers my family and they've helped a lot of people
So I don't have the animosity toward lawyers that mark does I guess it depends on the kind of lawyer But I am having a very funny image in my head right now of lawyers kind of just a whole mess of lawyers swimming upstream and their suits their trench coats around each other while mark is Trying to kill one of them frankly mark.
Thank you for the text John again in Columbia County says screw slow dancing more fast sexing
What if we got John on like the horniest night of the year for John?
He's just on fire right now.
Sal in Sun Prairie in the 608 says, Pete, I am not a drinker and the thimble of wine hits me when I get back in the, when I get back in the pew and my kids can't believe it.
So I understand that sip you had affected you.
Thank you, Sal.
And you know what?
We needed to challenge Conrad on that.
Cause I do feel something.
I mean, I don't feel drunk, but I feel it a little bit.
Thank you for the support, Sal.
Turning to the stream, Dave says, wonderful tonight.
Great song.
Eric Clapton, really good song.
Love, wonderful tonight.
Not as much as the song Cocaine, but it's up there.
Dave says, also, come sail away until the fast part.
I can't even picture the slow part now that you say that, but Bill, sorry, Citi Politics says, I want it on record that Ollie and I got beef.
What the hell does that mean
that you know they got a hate for each other or something
No, Ali already.
She's Ali nobody could ever hate Ali.
No, it's Sydney politics I'm gonna change your name to Sydney contentious because that's not right.
We got a call.
Yeah, Richard from Waukesha Richard from Waukesha Hi, how's it going buddy?
No, it's going pretty good today.
It's a nice day today.
Yeah, it's not too bad.
Yeah, I got some
I learned something today.
See, I'm like a coffee cup collector.
Oh, yeah.
Sure.
Coffee mugs.
Love it.
With things on them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you know, I got some like from like live from New York kind
of
car with things on them and this and that.
And I found one today and it's got a whole back story written and it's a true story.
It's about a woman.
from Minnesota that the state honored after a while and when she died hmm and her name her she got the name the root beer lady that's interesting did you ever hear such no name she was noted as being one of the best canoe paddlers and campers throughout her life
oh nice
and she uh
saved people in duress like Canoers that got stranded
Hey Richard hey Richard.
We're up against the news.
Do you want to hang and finish the story after the news?
Yeah,
all right hang on the line We'll finish this up We'll have about a minute after the news before we get to our guests.
So stick with us We are coming right back.
This is nightlight with peach wabba on the civic media radio network
All right, people heard me say welcome back.
I don't want to
be rude.
All right, we have, John Roach will be along momentarily folks.
We were in the middle of a phone call before we were rudely interrupted by the news, but Richard from Wackenshaw was telling us about a woman in Minnesota who saves people and how it relates to his coffee mug collection.
Richard, please continue.
We've got about a minute or so.
Okay.
Well, it was a, it's still on the shelf.
It was a toss up.
between that cup and another cup.
And I took the other cup, but this story is so interesting.
And it had such a great story.
It sounded like a nightingale, you know, like a kind of story.
And it's a fact.
And the state of Minnesota honored her.
And she did this most of her life.
They talked like she should have been like an Olympic canoe paddler.
So talented.
And it and she got the nickname the root beer lady.
And it was so interesting.
And then the other cup that I purchased.
Now, this is the name of a band
that's
got on it.
And I'm wondering, it's pretty long back.
I was real little.
And I'm kind of figure if it's the one I saw a couple of times, the showman.
Are the legends
yeah,
there was the showman the legends and the fender men I'm trying to figure out which one is the one that you know was pretty famous and when I was really little I saw him at What they had years back was the Sentinel Sports show?
Okay, and and this group performed and Whatever way I like the caption of those
the cup.
Yeah.
On each side, it says, I used to work with the legends.
Oh, that's awesome.
And
coffee mugs are reminded me of, yeah.
Yeah, they're a great thing
to collect too.
And, you know, I mean, let's be honest, my goal in life is always to have a cool enough nickname that it fits on a coffee mug.
It could be part of your
collection.
Well, there's so many different ones, you know, yeah.
It's it's amazing.
That's
awesome.
So I got a little collection, you know, some New York live at New York and you know, yeah, this and that and I got a couple soup bowls, you know, you want the soup, right?
Absolutely.
Who doesn't like soup?
You don't know soup for you.
You know, live from New York.
So there you go.
That's awesome.
I'm curious about this woman.
Yeah, I know.
Maybe con Google.
The Root Beer Lady?
Alright, thank you for the call, my friend.
You have a great night, Richard.
Always fun to
talk to you,
buddy.
Okay, thank you very much.
I do really, I've never had a cool nickname.
Her name, the Root Beer Lady, her name was Dorothy Malter.
Okay.
And that's why she changed it to the Root Beer Lady.
Yeah, it just has a better ring to it, I think.
Better than Schwama.
All right, we are going to turn our attention to our next guest, folks.
I am always excited when this gentleman is on the show because he is an extremely talented guy.
He's got an incredible resume with so many different credits and different genres, and he's sort of a master of all trades, jack of none, if that makes any kind of sense.
It is my pleasure to welcome tonight, Mr. John Roach.
Hey, buddy, how are you?
Hey, Pete, it's Jack of all trades master of none, I think.
No,
no, no.
You reversed it, man.
You turned that on its ear.
Yeah.
How are you?
Well, John does not take well to compliments, as you can see, folks.
I'm very
well.
Thank you.
How are you doing tonight, buddy?
I'm good.
I'm good.
We're excited about the premiere of A Road at Night.
You know you're a film guy.
To get a theatrical run at Marcus Theaters with a small indie film locally produced is unusual.
Yeah.
But we've got a great coalition of people who've jumped in to help us.
And so we open, there's a premier gay law.
on Thursday night the 12th, which is kind of an elevated ticket price, unabashedly a fundraiser for the Moore family.
And then it opens for the general public on Friday, February 13th, and runs through the 19th.
And if we have a strong opening weekend, it's a good shot.
We'll extend the run.
That's awesome.
All right, let's get into all that.
But first, for people that don't
who are familiar with A, your film, and B, the Moore family or Howard Moore.
Tell us who Howard Moore was, John, and then we'll get into the film, please.
Well, Howard Moore still is.
Howard was a schoolboy basketball player at Taft in Chicago.
And it was during the golden era of Chicago schoolboy basketball, Mark Aguirre, Juwan Howard, three of the fab five, Michael Finley, Tracy Webster.
At any rate, Howard was recruited heavily by Northwestern, but made his visit to Madison and opted to go there.
So this is in the early 90s, late 80s, early 90s at Wisconsin.
And Howard became a Pied Piper,
After Mike Finley signed with the Badgers and came up here and then Richard Griffith and They eventually became the first Badger team in 47 years to make the NCAA tournament and as Tom Oates says in the former Sports columnist for the State Journal in Madison He says that is the team that took the lid off and led to Really consistent success through the years and then Howard came back
And after he graduated, he became a coach under Bull Ryan, assistant coach.
So he coached, he recruited Frank Kamitsky, coach John Lauer, some of the great names in Wisconsin basketball.
But most importantly, Pete, this, he was a guy, as was his wife, Jennifer, he's beloved.
He only scored 99 points in his career at Wisconsin.
But once again, as Tom Oates says,
No one has scored 99 points, had a greater effect on the program than Howard.
And sadly, while he was coaching, he left to be the head coach for University of Chicago, IC in Chicago, University of Illinois, IC, and then he came back to the Badgers as an assistant for Greg Gard and Bo Ryan left.
And in May of 2019,
He and his wife, Jennifer, their daughter, Jayden, their son, Jarell, got in the car, you know, coaches get Memorial Day weekend off.
There's no recruiting.
So they drive to Chicago to visit Howard's parents.
And then they decide to leave late at night to avoid the traffic to visit, to go to Detroit, Jennifer's hometown, to visit her mother.
And somewhere outside Ann Arbor, Michigan at around 2 30 in the morning, they were hit head on by a drunk driver going the wrong way on the interstate.
And it's public record, Jennifer and Jayden were killed.
Jarell, who was only 12 at the time, was able to get his dad out of the car.
Howard had third degree burns over a third of his body, the upper part of his body.
And the story is really about how this band of brothers, these guys who played ball together, banded together again.
to help Howard and his son.
It's about love and loss and hope and the undying bonds of teammates.
That's a great description and I've seen the film folks it is it is outstanding and my only regret John
Is that I haven't been able to see it with an audience I missed the screening you guys did at the Barrymore at the Wisconsin
yeah, come on down because I had
I had another screening that night and I'm gonna be at the I've already committed to the Dora County Film Festival next week But right
I
am determined to see this film with an audience because I've heard that like collectively and The community exists on the screen and off the screen when people see the film.
It's really
just an incredible work.
So congrats on finishing it.
Congrats on the premiere.
Thanks, Pete.
And tell us now, okay, so you've got this premiere Friday, February 13th at Marcus Point Cinema in Madison.
Well, we have a private kind of Gala fundraiser for the Moore family on Thursday night, where tickets are 225 bucks.
Greg Gard, some of the basketball team members will be there.
And, you know, other
stars in the athletic firmament.
And then Friday night's open to the public.
We have panels every night for Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
Thursday night is really a gathering of the basketball community who knows Howard.
And then Friday night, it's a filmmakers panel, myself, Joe Fung, my...
My DP and editor who played such an important role.
Doug Moe is going to be doing the Q&A.
And Jarell Moore is going to join us.
Howard Sun, who's now a sophomore in college at Edward University.
Then Saturday is another kind of basketball interview with more basketball luminaries coming.
Some haven't been announced yet, but there's some pretty big names.
And
then Sunday, very interestingly,
You saw the film and we didn't plan on doing this, but we dealt with the issue of faith.
Howard and his family are people of great faith, faith I admire.
I don't necessarily have that level of faith.
Perhaps I wish I did.
I had 12 years of Catholic education, so I'm not uneducated.
16
here, John.
Yeah,
there you go.
But I was just moved by the faith that the Moors have and some of Howard's teammates.
And two of Howard's pastors were interview subjects on the dock, and they were powerful.
And so when something like this happens,
It's not unusual for people to say why.
As many people said, this is the last family that anything bad should have happened.
They're active in the charitable community.
Howard had a foundation.
No one deserves it, but they deserved it even less.
And you have to ask yourself why.
And so we delved into that issue with his two pastors, as well as his teammates, coaches.
because everyone asks that question of themselves.
Why do bad things happen to good people?
And so we took on that question.
And so the panel on Sunday is with one of Howard's pastors and myself just because it's such an interesting editorial topic because we didn't set out to include that in the doc.
that, you know, doing a doc is you're peeling the onion, right?
It's an exercise in discovery, and it was very difficult to tell the story without dealing with the Moore's
faith.
John Roach is my guest.
He is the director and filmmaker behind A Road at Night, which you can see
The weekend of February 12th 13th 14th the first night is a fundraiser for the Moore family, which the film is tells their story.
It's a great film.
I've seen it on the stream We've got a text John Kurt Krause who is one of the organizers of the Dork County Film Festival says sounds like a very powerful film John Roach I hope to catch one of the Marcus screenings.
So
it would be great.
I'd love to see it
Yeah, it would be great if you guys did get some kind of run because I think more people should see this it you know John
As much as I got to know Howard and his family through your film, it also makes you so proud to be part of the UW community.
You know, I've never lived in Madison.
I didn't go to University of Wisconsin, but I love when...
you know, the coaches are telling the stories and the players and even the ones that that had come and gone like Stan Van Gundy, you have a great, you know,
he said,
he said, Jarell came up to him and said, uh, coach and he called Stan Van Gundy coach and talking about his dad.
There's so many beautiful moments in this film like that.
John, we have to do a really short break and we're coming right back.
We'll have a few more minutes with our pal
John Roach,
the director of a road at night.
This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media radio network.
of the night is what is the best slow dance song?
What is the best song to slow dance to?
Let's ask our guest before we get back into the meat of this interview, John Roach, who is here.
He is the filmmaker behind A Road at Night.
John, Anna from Madison says, I always enjoy hearing John Roach on your show.
I still miss his back page column in Madison Magazine.
Oh, that's interesting.
Yeah, I did that for 30 years, Pete.
Oh, that's OK.
a monthly column.
I used to have an occasional beer with Doug Moe, who is the editor of Madison Magazine.
Magazine, there were about, you know, six or seven guys who would always gather there and kind of our Algonquin round table.
That's great.
Midwest style.
And Doug, I was
you know, holding forth on something not unusual and Doug said, why don't you shut up and write about it for me?
And I saw, okay, so I did a column and I just kept doing them.
So turned into a 30 year run, which was, you know, as a writer, Pete, as you are, it's really a good exercise to write for public consumption every month.
Effectively
an essay, right?
Yeah.
And you, it helps you find a voice.
Yeah, for sure.
And Anna is a big fan and
You know, just food.
Thank you.
Maybe maybe you take it up again, John.
I don't know.
Do you
have a
do you have a favorite slow dance song, John?
One, maybe a dance.
Well, first of all, cast adrift on memory is tremendous cast.
Actually, for the film, that is of the era of Howard Moore and his teammates at the university.
My son's a singer-songwriter in Los Angeles, and he and two of his compatriots.
did compose the score for the film.
Oh, nice.
Which is really gratifying.
My son, JT Roche.
It's great.
I didn't
know that.
That's great.
Yeah, and it's so satisfying at this stage of my career to work with my son and my brother worked on it.
So it was really satisfying, but they did a wonderful job.
But one of the things I asked him, as I said, can you do a little like, you know, cast a drift on memory-ish cut?
here, because it's just so much of that era.
But in terms of slow dances, I think your most formative slow dances are when you're just learning about girls, right?
And so for me, I'm dating myself now.
But two of that I like were Because by the Dave Clark Five and Fairy Cross the Mercy.
by Jerry and the pacemakers, which they were both British invasion bands in company with the Beatles.
Those are great.
And I just want to say, I'm still learning about girls.
And sadly, there are nights I date myself.
So I can relate
to everything.
Yes, no.
Yes.
I think, I think Jackson Brown wrote a song about
that.
Mine was how deep is your love and always on my mind.
So there's so many great ones to list.
But
well, also, you can't miss with the righteous brothers.
Oh, yeah.
You know.
They're wonderful.
We've heard several people have chosen that song.
John, we just have a few more minutes.
I love this movie.
I hope everybody goes to see it.
Documentary filmmakers don't do this for the money.
What was your goal when you set out to make this film?
That's a great question.
Well, first of all, this was a passion.
Project, but there is a very specific goal and that's to raise money for the Moore family all the box office receipts goes to go to the moors The film was financed by George Hammel who's a great Wisconsin grad Tim Valentine's an exec producer a whole bunch of people with Wisconsin connections came together Sean Hannish Kelly called from where Wisconsin grads who have cannonball and they you know made some distribution headway
with their film.
So they just jumped in and said, we want to be on team more and get you into a Marcus run as well.
And so that was, we're so grateful to them.
But you know, Pete, I think you know, from my past, I mean, I, I did, you know, a David Lynch film, but I've also dabbled in sports stuff.
Yeah, the sports writers on TV back in Chicago, long, you know, back in the 90s and odds.
And
I've always felt that sports is at its best when it transcends sports.
When it's kind of a jumping off point to look at a bigger picture, right?
Agreed.
And this is not a basketball documentary at all.
It's the stage upon which the story is played out, however.
And, you know, sports...
are inherently dramatic.
That's why they're popular, right?
Yeah.
And there's there's art.
There's grace and beauty.
There's tension.
There's drama.
There's violence at times, you know, there's action.
And so there are things in sports that appeal to me from a storytelling standpoint.
And so as soon as Tim and George approached me on this, my first thought was it's not a six minute video.
This is a documentary.
It also came when
the genre was really blowing up during COVID, because we've worked on this project for four years.
So it really began just as we were coming out of COVID.
And I just felt comfortable telling the story, honestly.
I grew up within five blocks of Camp Randall and the old field house.
My dad played baseball at Wisconsin.
I went to Wisconsin.
My wife went to Wisconsin.
My kids went to Wisconsin.
And so, you know, I know Bo Ryan and Greg Gard socially.
And so I understood the culture.
And also, I was in Chicago for 20 years.
And I knew the environment that Howard and Michael Finley, Tracy Webster, Richard, I knew that Chicago that they came out of.
So it was just very intriguing to me.
John, this has been so much fun.
One of these days over a beer we'll have to talk.
I follow the Chicago Hoops too.
The King, Marcus Liberty Days and Simeon and all that.
Oh my God, absolutely.
Marcus Liberty was almost in the dock.
Oh, nice.
But I want to say, when I met John, you talked about your days in Chicago and I thought, oh yeah, he's totally a Chicago guy.
Then later...
in our friendship, like two months.
I found out you were born and raised in Madison.
I'm like, Oh, that makes
sense.
He's such a Madison guy.
You're just a guy and you're an awesome guy.
City is regardless.
Thank you for being on the show.
And best of luck
with the screening talking to you.
And yeah, we have to have that beer.
We'll do
it.
I'll be there in March when you're in Madtown.
You
got
it.
Okay.
We'll definitely do it.
Thanks for your
support.
always.
All right, John
Roach, folks.
We'll keep you posted, too, ladies and gentlemen, on streaming information as that becomes available for a road at night.
But if you're in the Madison area, definitely check it out, John Roach.
We are coming right back for Act 3.
This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio
Network.
is 97.9 WG.
Broadcasting live statewide from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.
This is Night Light with Pete Schwabba, your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.
And now a guy who
washes his hands even after using a towel.
Pete Schwabba.
Welcome back.
This is act three of a Tuesday night edition of Nightlight.
Love that you're here and we are talking about really cool stuff.
If you missed our one, you'll want to check that out.
It was really fun.
We had our pal Carl Lowenstein was here.
He is the owner of Sturgeon Spirits.
He was in the studio.
He brought us
some swag and he brought us some libations in the form of, what were those drinks called?
There was Blackberry and Lemonade in it.
Raspberry as well.
Raspberry.
And Lemon and Lemonade.
He said he topped it off with
Lemon.
And then he had Brandy in it.
He gave me a mocktail and he had the hard stuff.
And I had a sip of the hard stuff and I've already puked.
I overdid it a little bit.
I vomited.
No.
It was very good.
And Carl, this is what he does.
And he's committed to bringing people together, even those who don't drink with those who do drink.
So they have an extensive list of mocktails at Sturgeon Spirits down there in Oshkosh.
Check it out.
They also have a big event coming up on the 14th.
He will be out.
He's setting up a bar out on the ice in Lake Winnebago for Sturgeon spearing that season, but the weekend, I guess.
And they're going to be a mile out.
on Lake Winnebago serving mocktails and cocktails and coffee and all kinds of stuff or stop by their tasting room on the 21st of February to celebrate their third anniversary, a really big one.
As Carl mentioned on his way out earlier tonight, the first three years of The Toughest and he's made it and he said things are going great.
So check out his operation there, great guy and it was fun to have him on the show.
And he is the featured star.
of our Nightlight Window Fund tonight.
So check that out on Facebook.
And in hour number two, we talked to John Roach, the director, producer behind A Road at Night, the story of Howard Moore, a former UW basketball player and coach who was in a terrible car accident.
And the film shows how the UW community came together to help his family.
It is an absolutely outstanding movie.
And like I said, I told this to John.
My only regret is that I haven't seen it with an audience.
I watched it by myself on Vimeo.
before I interviewed John on PBS last spring when he was gonna be at the Wisconsin Film Festival, but a really good movie.
If you are in the Madison area, check out A Road at Night at, I think it was West Point Cinemas, but just go to the website, Google, Google A Road at Night.
It's a really, really good movie.
So it was great to catch up with John as well.
We talked about our Olympian.
Have you already forgotten who our Olympian was, Con?
You know, I was gonna say.
Marcus Mueller.
I almost said...
Matt.
Matt Miller.
No.
He's going.
Matt Miller is not have anything to do with the lose that I know of.
He is not.
Matt Miller is most certainly not a loser.
See, it's not.
I don't like that because they said that about Marcus Mueller.
They said he is a loser.
It sounds like loser and the guys in the Olympics.
Definitely not a loser.
Definitely not a loser.
I hope they bring home the gold.
That would be really cool.
So
we got to know Marcus Mueller a little bit before from Brookfield.
We'll be competing in.
Italy next week.
It's going to be fun.
And then, okay, coming up in this hour, this is exciting too.
We're going to continue the movie talk a little bit with the Dork County Film Festival starts next weekend.
I will be there making an appearance and giving a speech on Friday night.
It's going to be a lot of fun.
I love independent films.
I love film festivals, and it's going to be a great night in Dork County at the Northern Sky Theater.
If you're around, check it out.
Some great films are showing.
Some films we've talked about on this show too, so it's gonna be a lot of fun.
But coming up at 720 will be 722 more accurately, Conrad.
After the break.
Yes.
Better time to interview our guest rather than during commercials.
Bodey Bence.
I hope I'm saying his name right.
I couldn't really find an interview.
We'll have to ask him when he... Maybe you could ask him.
Hey man, so what's up with your last name?
That looks like Bence.
I think it's Bence.
But Bodey!
It looks like Bodie.
It's a cool name.
It's a great name.
When you have a name like that, you kind of have to go into movies.
So we'll talk to Bodie at 7.20.
He did a short film that's a Western and we'll talk to him about his film and when we can see it at the Dora County Film Festival.
So there you go.
Our question of the night, if you want to get in on the fun, you still have time, is what is the best song to slow dance to?
This is a repeat question, Conrad.
We did this question almost two years ago and I remember the responses we got.
It was such a great
You know amount of texts we received I thought it'd be fun to do again, and it's tonight is not disappointed So let us know what is your favorite song to slow dance to 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 civic You can also text us on the civic media app or if you're watching the radio on YouTube Facebook or X drop us a stream comment and we'll read that on the radio on the stream
Our pal Terry Barr, I am not surprised at this response at all.
Do you know, did you know, you know Terry?
He's a huge fan of kids.
Of course.
She picked Beth.
And that's a great, that's a great song.
That's about the band.
Peter Chris, I think wrote it, the drummer I remember.
Cause when I was a kid, I was like, wait, the drummer wrote it?
Drummers can't write songs, but he did.
And that's one of their biggest hits.
Stacy Sue says, right here waiting for you, Richard Marx.
Open arms by journey, baby, I love your way, Peter Frampton.
Stacy Sue, going back to the early 80s for those tunes, love them, all great ones, Stacy Sue.
Actually, Richard Marx was more like late 80s, I think, with his song, right here waiting for you.
Sydney Politics, I really, I can't believe anyone, listen, first of all, I want to say this, I really like Sydney.
But you pick a fight with Ali from the North Woods and I will find you yes, Ali's my girl and Up until now Sidney was my guy, but I don't get this.
I don't get how you go after go after Ali happy new year by the way.
Yeah, happy new year Sidney bury the Berry the hatchet and don't don't pick fights with other listeners It's good to hear from Sidney.
We've got some social media text we have to get to yeah, so let's do that Mike to me
Our pal, he's been on the show before, says Avi Maria.
That's a... Nothing screams slow dancing with the lady like a religious dirge.
I actually love that song.
Not the slow dance, too.
I know Mike's joking.
Good hair for me, Mike.
Mike pulled the Conrad.
He did not give an honest, uh, can't just not be a smartass.
You know?
Well, you know, like I said, you know, I didn't really slow dance, so I didn't know what to... I didn't know how to answer
this, so... Alright, that's
fair.
The song I picked was played at like every single school dance I went to.
And you just danced slow to it.
Not really.
You confused that with slow dance.
No
one really danced slow at any of my dances.
Did anybody dance at your gatherings?
Gatherings of?
Dances.
At your dances.
Do people actually dance?
Yeah, but not like you'd see in movies or
anything.
I'd like to wrap up in the arms.
No.
Because
it
was never like slow songs, because I think they wanted us to
keep away from each other.
They didn't want teen pregnancies, which according to some can happen from a slow dance.
Rich Talarico says, crazy for you Madonna, great song.
That's a great one.
Thank you, Rich.
I said, of course, the Bee Gees, how deep is your love?
Willie Nelson always on my mind.
Trig Rude on social media says, stairway to heaven.
Led Zeppelin until, yeah, it gets pretty fast.
Kind of like what Dave was saying with Come Sail Away.
The song really starts to kick ass like halfway through.
Scott, Tom, in your eyes, Peter Gabriel.
Great song.
Love it, Scott.
Thank you.
Chicken or the egg photography, I suppose situational context applies here, but another YouTube link.
Yeah.
You gotta find out what that song is, Conn.
Cause I can't, and Jimmy Cusca also a YouTube link.
See what, see what those guys are thinking.
I'd love to know what Jimmy's is too.
Scott Tom's runner-ups are I Love You by the Climax Blues Band.
Yeah, that's a great song.
Midnight Blue by Melissa Manchester.
Wisconsin's singer-songwriter, part of that got cut off.
Sorry.
Can't take my eyes off you.
Frankie Valli in the Four Seasons.
Don't get around much anymore.
Harry Connick Jr.
As usual, outstanding text.
So Jimmy Cusco sent Endless Love, but it's the scene in Billy Madison.
where Veronica and Billy, or not, sorry, not Billy Madison.
Happy
Gilmore?
Yes.
Happy Madison?
Happy.
Billy Gilmore.
That's the
production company.
Yeah.
That's a great song.
It's great.
I
think.
Comedically or not.
I, you know, I dance to my, when I watch Happy Gilmore, I dance by myself.
Listen
to that song.
Yeah.
You put your arms over your back and kind of do that thing like if your mom walked in, she'd think you were actually
sweating.
That's pretty sad.
Janet from Madison and the 608 says, memories from high school, the long and winding road.
Okay, that's a great one too.
And I think that's a long song.
So if you like the person you're dancing with, that's perfect.
I remember there was a song called Down by the Sea by Men at Work and it was like 11 minutes long.
And if you were in a slow dance with someone you weren't like crazy about, that could be excruciating.
All right, so I wanted to play this I wanted to talk about this there was a woman I read about this she won two million dollars for coming up with a dr. Pepper jingle Yep, that is incredible like yeah, I can't remember like how she did it or if it was a contest or whatever, but when you hear this it's so simple and It's so easy and it's short and she got two million bucks.
Let's play that con.
I Have a theme song for dr. Pepper and it goes like this
All right, here's
my critique of that.
I don't have two million dollars.
What the hell am I talking about she that sounds awesome until she says it's good and nice Like I thought it was the same thing It's terrible Put it over ice something anything is better than good and nice.
It sounded like she took two seconds to come up with those lyrics
Yeah, and but again, I like the simplicity of it.
I like the first part And her voice is cool.
All right, I'm gonna contrast it with a dr. Pepper ad from the 70s
And this was kind of cool.
This was a guy from American Werewolf in London.
What is his name?
Something Naughton, Larry Naughton.
But a real actor in this ad.
And those of you who are probably over 30 or 40 will remember this ad too.
This is Dr. Pepper, Be
a Pepper.
I have
to say, I think I like that one better just because it's corny.
But, you know, that's memorable.
Be a pepper.
The other girls is great too like dr. Pepper baby that that's catchy.
I like it, but it's the good and nice really, you know, this is me.
I saw That original tick-tock video.
That's where she put it out.
It wasn't a contest or anything.
She just put it out there.
Oh really?
I
saw it and I didn't realize Well, there was a lot of companies not dr. Pepper that Compton under it saying like make me a jingle to make me yeah, and then she made jingles for them, too, but this one was
Like, no one knew that Dr. Pepper and her were actually like in talks to do, and it was premiered during the national championship.
The college national championship.
Yeah, and I knew
that.
And I was walking, I'm like, there's no way.
Like just seeing that, yeah.
That's insanity.
All right, folks, when we come back, we're gonna talk about a short film, Western.
You do not see many...
short films in the western genre.
And this film will be playing at the Dora County Film Festival next week.
When we come back, Bodhi Bence will be here.
And hey, get in on the fun, folks.
Tell us your favorite song to slow dance to that is tonight's question.
It's Night Light with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio
Network.
Oh my love, oh my love I really wanna know you
Welcome back.
This is Nightlight with P. Schwabba.
Great to have you here, folks.
Our question of the night is, what is the best song to slow dance to?
Let me know and we will read your text on the radio and I will do it with pleasure because I love when you guys get involved.
So what do we think about that, Dr. Pepper?
Do you like the first one or the one with David Naughton?
Yeah, I like the second one.
I think there's more.
There's more.
I don't know like production behind it.
You know what I mean?
Oh, yeah, it's like it actually sounds like a really good song that could you know, right?
But the other one
listen to it while you work out
I If I'm yeah, if I'm benching, you know going for the big three.
I'm listening.
I'm a pepper.
I
You know what that guy got paid for be a pepper 12 bucks and
the other girl got 2
million bucks for the it's good and nice
I gotta say, you know, she did say like she didn't get paid that much like I did yeah,
there were some conflicting but like
I don't know Maybe she's lying to
maybe she got a mill.
Maybe she got 2,000 5 mil
I Like it starts strong.
It just doesn't close for me
Tomorrow night on Nightlight Folks from Wisconsin Foodie, Arthur Ersing will be here.
Steve Segeran, comedian, artist, and actor will be here as well.
Thursday night we've got Hudson Hensley from the movie Song, Song, Blue.
He played the kid, Kate Hudson and Hugh Jackman's son, and he was really good.
We've got some fine folks from Cedar Crest Ice Cream making the popcorn pick of the week on Thursday, and film critic Devika Girish.
That will be fun.
Mike Clemens on Friday.
Krakenit and Terry Barber.
Right now, we're going to turn our attention to the Dora County Film Festival, which starts next weekend.
It's going to be a lot of fun.
It's a great festival led by Chris Opper and Kurt Krauss.
They do a great job, and they put me in touch with our next guest, writer, director, and actor, as I understand it, in his own film, which we'll be playing at the Dora County Film Festival, Mr. Bode Bence.
Am I getting your name right?
Yes, but all right perfect.
Oh fantastic We were just saying before the break about it that when you have a name like that you kind of have to go into the movie business You have to either be a director or an actor or something.
It's a pretty cool name.
Is that your birth name?
It is yeah, I know what you mean like the alliteration with the yeah, I know what you mean.
Yeah, absolutely The spelling is kind of weird like I that throws some people off like I get like bounty a lot sure
But you know that
you can even do like you could go by Benzi if you wanted to like that's a cool
Yeah, you got
the world.
Yeah, you know Thank you.
Yeah, you got it if you take off though because of that I want to taste of the prophets.
That's all I'm saying just to keep
this absolutely
the movie business
Well, have you seen the movie point break with yeah, Patrick's ways.
That's what that's what where my parents got the name from
Oh, that's great.
Yeah, Bode was a camera's character
Patrick Sway.
Yeah, I think.
Was it Patrick Sway?
Oh, yeah, Johnny Utah.
Johnny Utah.
Yeah, that's right.
They
named you after the Sway's Master General.
That is pretty
cool.
You must
have very cool parents.
They are.
I mean, yes, I love my parents.
I always tell them that too, because whenever a point break has gone down, it's such like a loved movie.
Yeah.
And whenever I talk to my parents about it, I'm like, you know how many crappy 80s movies you could have named me after?
But when I say point break, everybody's like, I love that movie.
You know, you kind of got lucky too, because that movie, I remember seeing it when it came out.
I was living in Chicago, and my wife and I went to see it in the theater, and we came out.
We were like, yeah, that was all right.
And then somehow,
it just got cooler as the years went by and now it's one of those films when it's on I know I'm watching at least like a half hour of it you know what I mean like it's kind of held up
absolutely it's um I can I'd say it's a classic by now it's like yeah it's I'd say it's like Americana
I would
agree with that
yeah well said um so where are you joining us tonight from Bodie
I'm in my apartment in Madison, Wisconsin.
Okay.
So you are still in Madison.
I know you went to school there, right?
Have you graduated?
Yes.
Okay.
I graduated, yes, in 2015.
Oh,
2015.
Oh, wow.
You look young.
That's great.
Which is good for
an
actor.
Sir, yeah, doesn't hurt.
Yeah.
Except when you want to be a cowboy and kind of have, like, want that rangy look, then maybe, maybe you don't want the baby face, but.
Right.
Well, you'll get those babyface rolls when you're in your 40s, and you'll have a much longer shelf life, I think, than most people
do, so
good for you.
All right, so tell us a little bit about... You've done a Western here, and Kurt Krauss put us in touch, and he said there aren't many short film Westerns.
I thought, oh, yeah, that's interesting.
What made you want to make a Western?
Yeah, well, first shout out Kurt Krauss.
I love that guy ever since I met him at...
why we got a film festival last year and then attended Door County Film Festival last year too.
Both Chris and Kurt are awesome dudes.
To make the Western, you asked what made me decide to make a Western?
Yeah, you must have influences or been a fan of the genre, I would imagine.
It seems like an elaborate, like usually people make a short film because they have access to locations or actors, but a Western seems ambitious for a short.
I'm just guessing.
Maybe you had access to all those things.
Yeah, well, yeah, that's a good point.
I've always had been a fan of the genre ever since I was a little kid You know You can really take a it is ambitious because when you're making a period piece You kind of have to nail the production design because if you have even one anachronism or anything It can kind of take the audience completely out of it
But you can solve a lot of those issues by just going into the woods and filming.
So the woods look the same.
But I mean, I guess on that note, where we filmed in Dodgeville for this one, the people owned like 50 acres and they wanted to look like original Wisconsin prairie.
So not only is it in the woods and in the country, but it's preserved to probably look exactly how that
place would have looked in the 1870s or whatever.
Well said.
All right, when we come back, tell us what the film is called, quick.
The
blood trade.
The blood trade.
I love that.
We're going to
hear about the plot and all about this film after the news.
Bodie Bence is here.
Bencey, as I like to call him, I don't know if that'll stick.
You're probably better off going with Bodie Bence.
He is here, an up-and-coming filmmaker whose film is playing at the Dark County Film Festival next week.
We'll have a few more minutes with Bodie when we come back.
It's Pete Chihuahua and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio
Network.
Welcome back.
This is Nightlight with Pete Schwab.
A great day to have you here, folks.
We are in the homestretch here.
My guest is Bodie Bentz, who is a filmmaker.
Madison, Wisconsin-based filmmaker.
Joining us tonight from our state's capital, his film is The Blood Trade.
And you can see it at the Door County Film Festival, which starts next week.
Bodie joins us over the stream.
It's great to have you here, Bodie.
Thank you for taking the time tonight.
Yeah, thank you so much for having me.
I really really appreciate the opportunity
My pleasure.
All right.
So before we hear about the plot tell us a little bit about yourself what What got you into film?
Where did you study and how did you get involved?
Yeah, so I guess originally I had to make a video for my Spanish class in high school and that went pretty well and then I took a media class in high school and
which also you know I kind of it just kind of clicked for me and made sense and I really enjoyed doing it most of all.
And then the same thing happened when I went to UW.
I was under UW University of Wisconsin-Madison.
I was undeclared until like my junior year and then I took an intro to media course and it just I loved it and and I did pretty decent in it so I was like well
This is like the one thing I've done well since getting to college.
So maybe I should, you know, look into it a little bit.
There you go.
That's great.
I pulled up your, your IMDB page.
You've done some other shorts.
Tell us about the blood trade.
I love the title and I love that it's a Western that you shot in Wisconsin.
And like so many independent filmmakers, you had to use your resources, which it sounds like what you said before the break, you absolutely did.
So tell us about the blood trade.
Yeah, blood trade So originally the title was the blood trade but in French language And then I had a lot of people say don't do that and they were totally right.
It just looks a little ridiculous and Pretentious, but that's where the title came from Let's see.
Yeah, so I've always been interested in
You know in the Jesse James story and the story of these outlaws and stuff like that and the script went through a few drafts You know before I landed on the two or the Marshall and the deputy going after the outlaw I had like competing bounty hunters and stuff like that and This is the one that kind of you know the concept that made the most sense and we decided to move forward with so
so what's the plot of the film what what's happening in the movie
yeah so there is a a guy for an unknown reason that is on the run from the law so he did something bad it's hinted you know that he may have killed some people so he decides to you know go out on the lamb out in the wilderness and he kind of makes his living and is getting by by
participating in the fur trade.
So he's kind of hooked up with this fur trader in the area and they kind of, you know, use each other to, you know, protect him and then to a Marshall and his deputy, you know, pinpoint him and then go after him in the movies about, you know, them attempting to bring him in.
How do you in a short film like this?
How do you get all your plot points through and how do you do you even bother with character arc or anything like that?
Or is it purely about the goal and in seeing the goal through of the plot?
Yeah, the plots plots really difficult, you know, and I'm still learning obviously as an amateur filmmaker because
Man, if I would have showed you the first cut of this movie, you would have been like, what's going on?
Because when you're the author of the script, you just assume so much.
Well, yeah, well, they're trying to catch him.
And it's like, well, the audience wouldn't know that.
And it's not like you can explain it to them after this.
It's supposed to be obvious upon watching the movie.
So that's something that I'm continuing to work on is the plot and the characters.
Loose ideas going into it.
I have a couple archetypes that I like to go with and I'd say, you know, they have a little bit of a backstory, but you know, you you'll only have a few minutes to accomplish stuff in a short film and the more you world build and build those characters like it's only going to help you.
So I just try to do a little bit of it.
That's great.
So what like have you have you shown the film yet with with audience in front of an audience like at other festivals?
Yes, we actually we played it a few we premiered at one in Texas was the premiere and we played at one in Cedar Falls, Iowa and And then one at Milwaukee independent film awards thought out to them in Milwaukee And it's been received really well at all the festivals which just means the world to a filmmaker, you know,
it's so
challenging and yeah, it's it's
you know, it's so rewarding when you get any type of positive feedback from people because it is really challenging, especially, you know, making a film with no money and in amateur actors and
yeah, for sure,
that kind of thing.
So
yeah,
it's quite it.
Yeah,
I will say I, you know, I've been in this business a long time and whether it was this medium or this medium, I've noticed that or I found over the years that sometimes you get a compliment and you shake your head and you smile, but it's not really what you were going for.
When
you watch this at the Milwaukee Independent Film Awards or Cedar Rapids, are you getting the kind of response from audiences that you were expecting to and that you wanted?
It would be a more accurate question.
Yeah, so I have to give a lot of credit to it's the star of the movie.
His name is Nick Hoffman.
He's from Milwaukee.
I've worked with him on pretty much all of
my movies, and he's just really got a good eye for production design and style and fashion and stuff like that.
I mean, he's really the one that kind of put together the costumes and stuff, which in a period piece are a huge deal.
So a lot of the feedback I get is, it looked really good.
You know, the costumes were cool and stuff like that.
So I really, you know, got to thank Nick and everybody else who helps me with.
Another thing people seem to really like is the guns.
with the blank rounds and the puff of smoke and stuff like that, people like that.
So yeah, I get a lot.
I have gotten some good feedback on the design of the film, which I really appreciate.
That's great.
You're also in the film and you directed it and wrote it.
What is your favorite hat to wear, so to speak, as a
filmmaker?
Probably director writer director editor, you know, I I act You know more or less out of necessity because then you know, I don't I don't have a budget But I still like to pay my cast and crew at least a little bit for their time because they're the ones going and freezing their butts off and spending long wet days outside and You know, so that's just one less person that I that I have to pay and in rely on you know, and I know what I want so
in the movie.
So I'd say in a perfect world, I wouldn't act in my own films, but that's kind of how it works out.
Yeah.
Currently.
My guest is Bodhi Betts.
He is the writer-director.
He also has a part in his own film called The Blood Trade, which is not premiering in Door County anyway at the Door County Film Festival next week at the Northern Sky Theater.
When is your screening, Bodhi?
What can you tell us about the time and place?
Yeah, the screen so the screening is on Saturday.
I believe that's the 15th.
I Believe I'm kind of right in the early afternoon.
Okay.
I Think I should know that for sure, but they also have it on the door County
Film website.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, so all right, so you made this Western Who are your influences as a director or a filmmaker or a writer for that matter?
Yeah, I love that question my My favorite film of all time is the assassination of Jesse James by the coward Robert Ford.
Yeah, it's um, have you heard of that one?
I
have yeah
It's starring Brad Pitt and Casey Affleck and it just really showed me what you can do with the Western genre and they made it really, you know, heady and introspective and it really just showed me that you know
what what what a western can really be and you know the strengths and another thing i liked about that is you know the james gang and stuff they're from missouri so it's uh it's kind of like a midwestern you know they had snow in the movies their their costumes are a little different which we tried to emulate or you know directly copy um you know so it's a it's regional it gave me some regional you know things to go off of because when you think western usually think texas and the big
10 gallon had in the big belt buckles and stuff like that,
but
I like the Jesse James story The movie and as well as just the real-life story because it focused in the Midwest and they actually on had their last robbery in Minnesota So that stuff kind of happened in her backyard.
So Jesse James and I watched a tombstone You can ask my dad this watch to oh, it's so good.
I watched that probably like 1500 times Over and over and over on repeat
love that movie.
And the the last one that I also watched hundreds of times as a kid is called it's a movie called Support Your Local Sheriff with the late late great James Garner.
It's kind of like a TV movie kind of thing.
Oh, it's so good.
It's so funny.
It's a comedy Western.
And I'd say those are my main Jesse James Tombstone and Support Your Local Sheriff are my absolute favorites.
So
have you ever seen The Quick and the Dead?
No, um, I know what it is though.
Didn't it?
Leo DiCaprio, Gene Hackman, Sharon Stone, and I think Sam Raimi directed it really.
I mean, just, I mean, Raimi is a great director, but it's a really good film and it keeps you, I would recommend it if you like Westerns.
I think you'd really dig it.
Uh, yeah.
Thank you for that recommendation.
I
definitely will watch it.
I've heard I've heard of it So now it's it's going right to the top of my list.
Yeah, it's really good and Leo de Caprio is much younger, but he's really good, too So I have to ask you to what what are you gonna do next like you've done some short films I have your IMDB page up here, but what is you know?
I mean as a writer director or actor.
What is your next project?
Yes, so Right now I actually have a meeting tomorrow morning with a
with a screenwriter guy because I have I have a feature length film script and obviously that's the thing that I'm new to I haven't produced this you know feature film but I have a script that I really like the concept it's kind of it's kind of weird but I think sometimes that's good because you know that movie hasn't been made yet you know
yeah
that you know the next steps on that I don't have any
expectations at this point of it getting produced, but I'm excited to continue reaching out and have these meetings with people and stuff like that.
And then I have another short script that's kind of like a horror thriller kind of thing.
I just want to shoot maybe this summer or early fall.
And then Nick, ever since we made our first short film together, he's wanted to make like a heist movie.
We haven't, you
know,
Yeah, we haven't found a concept or script that we're in love with yet and want to move forward with, but for like 10 years it's been like, you know, let's make a heist movie, heist movie, so maybe we'll try and, you know, do that soon too.
That's great.
Well, I wish you luck, Bodhi.
It sounds like a fun film.
If I'm able to, hopefully I'll be able to catch it on Saturday when I'm there.
I look forward to meeting you and thank you for taking the time tonight and continued success.
Hanging there at such a long, even getting a short film may take forever.
So keep the faith and keep turning stuff out, buddy.
It was great to meet you tonight.
Yeah, nice meeting you.
Hopefully I do run into you and can meet you in person in Door County.
So thanks a lot.
Let's do it.
You got it.
That's Bodie Benz, folks.
Check out his film, The Blood Trade at the Door County Film Festival.
It plays next Saturday, the 15th of February in the early afternoon.
We are coming right back to finish up with some texts.
We got a good one from Kurt Krauss and another Western suggestion from Craig.
We'll read those when we come back.
It's Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.
We know we land on a freeway from love in the pink ha-
Welcome back.
I'm Pete Schwabba.
This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba.
We are in the home stretch here.
Folks, it has been a really fun show.
Conrad, do you think this has been a fun show?
I think it's been a fantastic show.
I would say one of our best.
And we've got...
We had a really fun time.
I'd like to thank Carl Lohenstein, who is here.
He is the founder and owner of Sturgeon Spirits, a great operation and a wonderful distillery down in Oshkosh.
They have some great events coming up.
Check out their website.
John Roach was here in hour number two.
John has been a guest frequently on Nightlight over the last year, I would say.
And his film is finally gonna be out there for the public to view.
And I highly recommend it.
A Road at Night.
Just an excellent film.
John did a great job about Howard Moore, the UW basketballer and basketball coach who was in a tragic accident years ago with his family.
But John does a great job telling their story and celebrates the UW community.
It is actually a very uplifting film, if you can believe that.
So check out a road at night.
And then Boat Events, filmmaker whose film The Blood Trade will play in Dork County.
next week at the Door County Film Festival.
So check out the Door County Film Festival.
I cannot stress enough, folks, if you haven't been to a film festival, you have to check one out.
The Q&As, the interaction with filmmakers are just outstanding, not to mention the quality of films because people that book film festivals and program them take them very seriously and they pick only the best of the best.
So definitely check out the Door County Film Festival if you...
if you are in the area or don't mind a road trip.
I mean, seriously, who wouldn't mind going to Door County?
Conrad, you're a Door County fan.
I love Door County.
Yeah.
So check it out and thank you for all your calls and texts here.
We've got a few more that we need to get to.
Where is my text line?
Here we go, right here.
So we've got...
Steady Eddie's got a text.
Let's do Steady Eddie's.
Let's do these in order here.
We've got Janet from Madison says, I really liked the guy I was dancing with.
That's Janet from Madison who said that, I forget the song already, but it's a very long song.
It's a slow dance too.
And I said, it would be fun if you really liked the person you were dancing with.
And she said, I did.
So thank you, Janet, for clarifying that.
Steven Milwaukee says, we've got tonight by Bob Seeger.
That is a great song.
And honestly, one I forgot about.
Steve, I will be firing that up in the car tonight on the drive home in the 262.
Thank you, Steve.
That's a great tune.
Totally forgot about that.
Kurt Krause on the stream says, favorite slow dance quote was from Steve Segrin, when we were filming The Godfather of Green Bay.
Kurt was an extra in that film at 18.
And we connected years later, and he reminded me of that, which was great.
He says, during the slow dance at the bar, he told a couple on the set to leave some room for Jesus.
I've since borrowed that line, and it hits hilarious every time.
That's kind of what you were saying, Conn, like they didn't want you to slow dance because you don't need, you know.
Young bodies being that close.
Yeah, Stacy Sue says I sure remember that dr. Pepper be a pepper ad She says fun fact there is a dr. Pepper museum in Waco, Texas road trip.
No kidding God of all places.
Why Waco, Texas?
Maybe that's where it's
from.
Maybe I Think I would have heard that though.
I love it though.
Good for Waco some nice to think of Waco
for something positive.
Craig Kinit says, Pete, how about a contest for a nightlight jingle?
Maybe not for the two million, but maybe for one million.
Now you're talking, Craig.
Could be fun regardless of the prize.
Also, Bode Rocks.
Yeah,
he was a good guess.
Thank you, Craig.
And thank you, Kurt, for connecting us.
Craig also says, the ballad of Buster Scruggs, amazing batch of Western shorts.
I'm embarrassed to say I have not seen that, Craig.
And that's, I think that's a Coen Brothers film.
And I still have not seen it, so.
There you go.
We've got Steady Eddie here, a Steady Eddie text, which is a great way to end our text to evening.
Steady Eddie in the 608 says, Pete.
Lone, I, oh, I'm sorry, I one time drank a sip of Dr. Pepper.
It was bad.
Dr. Pepper, I maintain you are neither good or nice.
Steady Eddie, PS.
Great slow dancing song, unchained melody, as sung by the righteous brothers.
That's.
was one of John Roach's films as well too.
I don't think either of those Dr. Pepper, actually the first Dr. Pepper that went for a two million spot supposedly wouldn't be a bad, it's got a good intro for a slow dance.
Dr. Pepper baby.
It's good and nice.
It's good and nice, like a slow dance.
But the other one is just catchy.
That's more of a like breakdancing type song.
So, uh, con, we are in Super Bowl week here.
Do you have a prediction?
I think the Seahawks are going to win.
I
think
so.
I think their offense is much better than the Patriots.
The Patriots and the Seahawks both have amazing defenses
and
great coaches.
But I do think Sam Darnold's going to, yeah, it's just a great story to see Sam Darnold in the Super Bowl in the first place.
I'm rooting for him.
I'm rooting for Sam Darnold too.
I don't.
I'm done with the Patriots.
I don't ever need to see the Patriots win another football game.
No offense to Drake May or Mike Vrable.
I'm sure there's swell people, but Honestly, I'm not ready for another Patriots Super Bowl.
So I would say
Definitely.
I'm going to pick and I'm cheering for the Seahawks.
And I love the Sam Darnold story.
Like we've been talking about with these Olympic athletes all week.
When you get behind someone and know their struggle and what they've been through, that's what makes it really exciting when you watch sports.
If you don't have a vested interest in a team or necessarily the luge, but now we can cheer for Marcus Mueller or Sam Darnold.
Yeah.
You know, Sam Darnold, he is a famous quote.
When he was on the Jets his rookie year, he says, I'm seeing ghosts out there.
And that was against the Patriots.
And now he is in the super-reliant stuff.
Wow.
So what does that mean?
Like, he was just getting rushed from everywhere?
He had four
interceptions.
He was seeing ghosts out
there.
Yeah.
He's been bad.
Tomorrow night, Arthur Ersing from Wisconsin Foodie will be here and writer, I'm sorry, writer, actor.
Well, he writes, I'm sure, sometimes when he keeps up with his correspondence.
Steve Segrin, actor, artist, and...
Very funny comedian will be here.
And it'll be another swell night here at Nightlight.
We hope you join us.
It's Pete Schwabba.
And thank you to everybody and on behalf of the lovable producer Conrad.
Good night, Wisconsin.
