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From Wisconsin’s Stage to Nollywood Fame (Hour 3)
Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Mon Feb 2, 2026
Broadcasting live statewide from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.
This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba, your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.
And now, a guy who hates shaking hands, Pete Schwabba.
Hey, welcome to Nightlight everybody.
Are we doing Wisconsin?
It is great to be back in the chair.
It is finally Monday.
And we will talk about lots of really groovy stuff tonight.
We've got great guests, a great question, lots of chances for you to be part of the show, which I always love when you guys text or call and just, you know, be part of the nightlight.
That's what we're doing here.
What else are we doing here?
Conrad, right?
I know.
Yeah.
What else are we doing?
Nothing.
We're here for the people.
Yeah.
And that's why that's why we do it great stuff tonight.
We've got a gorgeous night here in Green Bay a balmy 30 degrees in Green Bay tonight That's warm.
It is warm.
It feels like 50 based on what we've been dealing with but Something, you know, it's staying laid out a little light, you know a little lighter later We got some some balmy weather.
We've got lots to get to tonight folks The Olympics start this week Conrad.
I don't know if you know about that.
So
yeah,
you're planning on
you know, being part of any of the events, you better get going.
You're losing daylight on that one.
But will you watch the Olympics?
Yeah, definitely.
I love watching.
Main thing I like watching is the snowboarding.
Yeah.
Especially, you know, just the slope style or just the park.
It's super cool.
Yeah.
No, I love the Olympics too.
We're going to be watching.
I like all the, I think I said this last week, I kind of prefer the winter Olympics a little more than the summer Olympics just because
It seems like there's like more extreme sports and speed like with the skiing or the luge or the bobsled or whatever.
It's like those.
And now you've got like all the actual extreme sports like snowboarding and stuff like that.
I just think the Winter Olympics have kind of, in my opinion, outside of track and field.
I think they've kind of surpassed the Summer Olympics.
Yeah, I agree.
Okay.
I don't get too invested into the.
regular summer Olympics.
The winter Olympics are fun.
Absolutely.
All right, so we're going to talk about all of this.
We've been putting the spotlight on a Wisconsin Olympian.
We started this last week and we'll continue it all the way up to Friday when the Olympics start, the opening ceremonies.
We'll talk about an Olympian each day from Wisconsin.
Lots of fun stuff coming up tonight too.
Got some great guests.
Did you have a good weekend?
What did you do?
I
basically sat in my apartment.
Okay.
watch something to be said
you know watch movies and I want shopping
you gotta go shopping that you have to get outside the house to do that kind of stuff you know
yeah I just I was like I need to chill this weekend so cuz I have a little cough so just trying to
keep it chill.
Everybody I know is dealing with the same issue.
It's like this lingering cold that just does not go away.
So I've been dealing with it too.
I'm finally starting to feel like myself again.
But yeah, everybody's dealing with it.
So stay bundled up out there, folks.
It's this is just and also I went to bed last night.
It was snowing again.
I had to go out and dust off the car and shovel off the walks.
We got about
you know, an inch, which I normally wouldn't even leave the house to shovel, but it's like, if you don't, it could turn to ice.
It's just so annoying.
This is probably the most annoying winter I've dealt with.
Yeah, I would, I mean, I don't shovel, but...
Because you got an apartment, see, apartment living, there's something to be said for that, dude.
Yeah, no, it's nice not having to worry about shoveling, but I do have to, you know, get the thing out to what...
Wipe off my car.
Yeah.
But that's it.
I did see a cool movie.
My wife and I went to see Send Help, the new Sam Raimi movie with Rachel McAdams and Dylan O'Brien.
Really good movie.
If those of you who like the film Misery with Kathy Bates and James Kahn will probably really dig Send Help.
Because on the surface, and I will not do any spoilers here, but like on the surface,
It looks like you know a jerky boss Finally gets his comeuppance on an island and he does but there's a lot going on.
It's a really good movie excellent reviews Great audience scores Highly recommend send help.
I made it a Pete pick for the Hollywood beats tomorrow So you can hear that at the bottom of the hour throughout the day here on civic media tomorrow Happy Groundhog Day everybody.
It is Groundhog Day a very uh, I will say February there is not
Much to like about February.
It's just kind of one of those months, you know, you've got Valentine's Day Black History Month Groundhog Day outside of that Not a lot going on when when the most exciting part of the month is once every four years that there's a leap day That's a pretty lame month And I just I don't dig it.
I don't really like
I mean you can always look forward to the Super Bowl in February
That's true.
You get the Super Bowl, but that can suck.
That game's not always exciting.
Sometimes it is.
But I guess just the party thing about it, you know.
Here's what I would rather do.
I would rather have good weather and set up a party about anything else and not have to deal with February.
Although you're right.
The Super Bowl is an event and it is one of the cool cool things about February, but not much to like overall about February.
You said that Pugs of Tony Phil, give us the straight dope, dude.
It is my job this February 2 to look to the skies and report back to you that there is a shadow here on my ground.
Six more weeks of winter abound!
Why are they cheering?
I don't know.
If he sees his shadow, or she, that's Phil, I guess it's a dude, but that means six more weeks of winter.
If he does not see his shadow,
That means winter ends sooner, correct?
Yeah.
So why are they cheering?
Maybe they got like the crowd that just love winter.
They're just a bunch of spazs.
It's calm down, first of all.
Like, remember in the movie Groundhog Day when those people get so into it?
That's probably what it's really like.
That's probably was, that was probably one of the inspirations of the movie is how people react to Phil seeing or not seeing his shadow.
Don't get excited about six more weeks of winter, but we're gonna have it either way.
I mean, let's say Phil doesn't see a shadow.
What do we have five and a half weeks more?
It's not gonna matter But for those of you wondering Phil did see his shadow the actual Regulated Phil saw his shadow, which means we have six more weeks of this nonsense And last year I didn't even care because last year was pretty mild.
I'm like I can handle six more weeks of this This is pretty brutal.
Well now we're looking forward to more snow
So
we are
probably that if
I mean that's what the forecast.
Yeah, I'm just I'm just assuming since this how this just how this winter has been going and guessing
there's
more snow coming
I Don't like it one bit Let's get to we could talk more about groundhog day first of all one of the greatest movies in my opinion ever made About an off holiday holiday.
I never cared about before.
I honestly never gave Two blanks about groundhog day ever but the movie came out
And it is such a solid, top-to-bottom, well-executed film that now I kind of pay attention to Groundhog Day.
But it's one of my all-time favorite movies.
It's such a great movie.
I rewatched it, like, not like two weeks ago or something like that.
Yeah.
I always say I'm gonna have a Groundhog Day party and put the movie on just to give us something to do in late January, early February, but...
By the time it gets here, I'm like, oh yeah, grown up day.
And I can't throw a party together that quickly.
But I always thought it would be a fun thing to have like an annual party for.
Without further ado though, folks, it is Monday.
We are back in the saddle here.
Let's get to the night like question of the night.
Let's talk about the question.
Okay, question.
Question.
Question.
Pregunta.
Question.
Question.
Okay, I have a question.
Questions.
This question.
Domanda.
Question.
Question.
All right.
In honor of actor Linus Roach.
Do you know who that is, Conrad?
I don't.
He is the assistant DA on Law & Order right now.
He's been in a lot of cool stuff.
He's one of the Batman's.
He's not I don't think he's on the show right now.
I think he was a previous assistant EA under Sam Waterston, but his name is Linus Roach very good actor in honor of Linus Roach's birthday, which that probably has never been said before if you had to share the name of an animated character, who would it be?
If you had to share the name of a cartoon character animated favorite from over the course of history TV movies comic strips, who would it be?
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I'm gonna say... I'm gonna go first, and I'm gonna say Bugs.
But
not Bugs Bunny.
I don't
want to go with the whole thing.
Just Bugs.
Because Bugs is cool.
There's been a few gangsters named Bugs.
Like Bugs Moran, Bugs-y Seagulls.
So I think Bugs is kind of cool.
And it was between that and Homer.
Okay.
But I always pick Homer.
Homer's my favorite of all time.
But Bugs Bunny was right up there.
I grew up watching Bugs Bunny.
So I'm gonna say Bugs without the bunny.
No,
that's great.
When I saw the question, you know, I was like, all right, what's the first one that just comes to my brain?
And for some reason it was Casper, the friendly ghost.
Okay.
Then you also share a name with Chris Casper.
Yeah.
Who could pick that same.
So
yeah Casper's it's fantastic.
You're good company.
Fantastic animated character
So there you go folks, let us know what cartoon character or animated character if you had to you would like to share their name You could say fog horn leg horn Nancy from the comic strip Andy Cap I Would say the far side but there were different characters all the time Charlie Brown Buzz Lightyear you got so many to choose from let us know what you think
And we've got some good social media responses.
We'll get to those as well.
Coming up tonight on, well, new sports and weather is right around the corner, folks, about 14 minutes away.
We will keep you informed here at Civic Media as we always do.
And then after...
news, sports and weather.
I mentioned Black History Month before.
Ty Williams will join us.
He is one of the programmers at Milwaukee Film and they've got some really, they've got a really, really cool program for Black History Month.
Some great events and we're going to talk to him about the movies because there's a word I've never heard there before and Ty will educate us because it sounds really cool.
But we've had Ty on the show before.
He'll tell us what's up with Milwaukee Film and their two beautiful venues.
Coming up this month a black history month and then in the second hour actor Dan Davies will be here Dan has been here before he is a very well-known actor here in northeast, Wisconsin, but Conrad Did you know?
Dan is like one of the biggest Nollywood stars in the world.
I mean, that's pretty cool.
You know what that means?
That's in Africa yes, okay, so Dan I don't know much about nollywood.
I'll be honest
I know Hollywood.
A little bit of Bollywood.
That's becoming more of a thing.
But Nollywood, I don't know.
But Dan is huge there.
So we'll talk to Dan.
He's going to be here in studio.
And he's also going to tell us about this really cool reboot that was shot based on a movie that was shot 50 years ago in Wisconsin in the Northwoods.
Kitty Corner, to where I live, sort of, called The Giant Spider Invasion.
It is a cult classic that was made by Bill Rabain.
50 years ago, Dan and some other guys here from Northeast Wisconsin got together with Bill and they did a reboot.
They cut some new scenes and they put it in the movie.
Really big undertaking.
Tedious work, I am sure.
That is either nearing completion or done.
Dan will be here to tell us about what's up with the Giant Spider invasion reboot.
And then in hour number three, Thomas Campbell will be here.
Thomas is a renowned playwright and also teaches theater.
at UWGB.
So he's going to be in studio.
We'll talk to Thomas about a couple upcoming shows they have and a little bit about his, what he's been up to and what he does.
Cause it's fascinating work.
He teaches many different classes and I'm excited to ask him about all of them.
So that is your show folks.
And our question again, once again is what cartoon character, if you had to share a name with a cartoon character, who would it be?
I say bugs.
Short for Bugs Bunny.
Conrad said...
Casper the
Friendly Ghost?
Casper the Friendly Ghost?
What if Chris Casper didn't even pick Casper?
What if he went completely off book?
Well, it's a
different spelling.
Yeah,
it's irrelevant.
Let us know, Chris, if you're out there listening.
Alright, we're coming back and we're going to tell you who our Olympian of the night is, who is from Wisconsin.
This is Pete Schwabba and Nightlight News is coming up in 10 minutes on the Civic Media Radio Network.
you
Happy Groundhog's Day, everybody.
Coincides with Monday.
Maybe makes Monday a little less sullen.
Actually, it makes it worse because we got six more weeks to enter.
But what are you going to do?
Great to have you here, folks.
This is Nightlight with Peachwaba.
I am Peachwaba.
And we are... There's so much going on, Conrad.
I can't even like... We've got all this... All right, we've got our Olympian we've got to get to.
We've got new sports and weather coming up in just seven minutes.
Let's do, did you watch the Grammys last night?
Not
the full thing.
I watched like, I don't know.
It just kept breaking so much for ads that I just lost interest
at
some point.
I watched a little bit of it.
I watched a see if Kendrick Lamar would win some stuff.
He won, he's the most decorated Grammy winner ever now.
He's got 27 to Jay-Z's 24.
I didn't realize that was a thing.
But he won five last night, Kendrick Lamar, last year's Super Bowl halftime performer.
So that was kind of cool.
Lady Gaga won one.
Billy Eilish and Bad Bunny won one.
He won the first best album.
And it's not best Spanish-speaking album.
It's best album, the first ever win for someone who did it in Spanish.
That's pretty
cool.
Yeah, that's awesome.
So I did not watch the broadcast, I will admit.
I was following it on my phone and writing tidbits about it.
And Trevor Noah, hosted.
I like Trevor Noah.
Without further ado, though, let's get to our Olympian of the night, folks.
We've got several great athletes from Wisconsin competing in this year's Winter Games in Italy.
And tonight's Olympic athlete from Wisconsin, Hales from Appleton, Wisconsin, it's Paul Schomer.
Conrad you pick this out today.
You pick Paul.
Yeah, the last two you got Paul.
This is a great one.
I yeah, he just he's a really great story and He was planning to retire But he still he's still qualified for this year.
So he's going to Milan
He he competed in the 2022 games in Beijing and they I think the whole team took seven I'm not really sure how they do it with the biathlon And do they separate it between men and women or is it a team?
Do you know that that I'm not sure about yeah
Because I know that our Deirdre Irwin took second two when she was our Olympian of the week, last week on Thursday night.
But Shomer, this is interesting.
He grew up in Appleton and he was a wrestler.
But at like the age of 15, he lost his dad in a serious horrible car accident.
And he did not want to keep wrestling because his dad was a wrestler.
So this is where these sports like the Olympics really tug at your heartstrings and get you motivated to cheer for people when you learn about their life.
And it doesn't always have to be tragedy like Deirdre Irwin had a great story too when they stormy Cromer made the hats for her and the team like there's just cool stuff and her mom used to wear a cheesehead so that Deirdre could pick her out in a crowd It just personalizes the athlete so much better and now I know when I'm watching what I'll be cheering for Anyway, Paul Shomer gave up wrestling and picked up cross-country skiing because his brother Started a club at their high school
And then Shomer ended up skiing in college, got connected with a guy who steered him to the biathlon.
I don't think I could do the biathlon.
I don't think I could either.
What would you, what do you think would be the most difficult sport in the Winter Olympics?
I want to say a luge, because I'm scared of that.
Just laying on another dude, you mean?
Well, it's like the single one, the single luge, like just going that fast.
That's terrifying.
I'm with you.
But when there's two guys on it, it seems worse.
Like it seems like there's more room for error.
Yeah, and SNL did a great skit on Saturday about the Luge.
Did
they?
It's hilarious.
It's like it was about, you know, skier and snowboarder and then a person who does the Luge.
And they're like, we love this sport so much and the Luge person like, I'm scared.
That's great.
But anyway.
Paul's college coach was a former biathlete got him into that And he made the national team in 2017 I believe for the first time and then he competed in 2022 He said he never wanted to be an Olympian.
This is Paul Schomer.
He wanted to wrestle But it's crazy the different route your life takes At various points in his case it was a tragic accident where he lost his father But I'm fascinated by how people end up where they end up
And Paul Schomer said, you know, wanted to be a wrestler.
Now he's going for the gold in the 2026 Olympics in Italy.
Good luck, Paul Schomer.
Good luck.
All of our Olympians will feature another Olympian tomorrow.
And so it's groundhog day.
I don't know what to do.
I mean, I don't, how do you celebrate?
Like, I can't watch that same movie every year.
It's not Christmas where you can divide it
up.
I could watch it every year, I think.
I've probably seen it 10 times.
It came out in 92, I think, or 93.
So I am on a, that's 32 years, I'm on a bi-yearly, tri-yearly, I'll watch it on average.
We've got Dave on the stream, answers tonight's question of the night, which is, in honor of actor Linus Roach, who has a really cool name, if you had to share the name of an animated character, who would it be?
Dave says, Bugs Bunny.
I said Bugs.
I'm there with you halfway, Dave.
And Dave says, the land of the lost, the old one.
What does that mean?
I don't know.
Character?
He just wants to live there, maybe.
Just the whole cast?
He would share names with the whole cast?
That seems not feasible.
Christy from, wait a minute.
Let me make sure I'm reading the right text here.
Okay.
Christy from McConnell.
She's an Eau Claire.
It says, Shira.
Who's that?
You know who that is?
I do
not.
S-H-E-R-A.
Please give us more deeds, Christy.
It's uh, yeah, she's a princess of power.
Oh,
I could
see why
Christie picked
that I've never met a princess Christie.
I've never even gotten a text from a princess.
So thank you for that
the sister of he man.
Oh That's a great one awesome Tom from Manona in the 608 says my friends have called me bender for 40 years So they named a cartoon character after me love the show.
Thanks Tom.
Love you, buddy.
That's a great text bender is the guy from
Futurama.
Yeah, I love it.
That's awesome.
All right, we will read your texts throughout the course of the show, folks.
Let us know what cartoon name you would want.
If you had to share a name with a cartoon character like Linus Roche does.
All right, we are coming back.
New Sports and Weather is next, and we're here with Ty Williams from Milwaukee Film, Talking Black History Month, and some amazing programming they have going on this February.
We're coming right back.
It's Peach Wamba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Welcome back.
I'm Pete Schwab, and this is Nightlight.
Great to have you with me.
Happy Monday.
Happy Groundhog Day, everybody.
Was it Groundhogs Day or Groundhog Day?
I say Groundhog Day.
Groundhog
Day.
Singular, right?
You don't
put it like that.
Yeah, there's not, there's not, you know, multiple Groundhogs that... Well, actually are.
I don't know.
Are there?
Yeah.
This is interesting.
Al from the 262 says, you guys mentioned the number one movie this weekend, Send Help, I did, which I heard is great, but a lot of people may be unaware of the movie that was an extremely close number two.
It's not listed on every listing because it's an independent film, but made over $18 million, a sci-fi Iron Lung, directed by and starring YouTube personality, I think, I don't know how to say it.
Markiplier.
Markiplier, okay.
That's a great text, Al.
And you're right, I did say that in the beats where I break down the box office every week.
I do mention that Iron Lung made like two and a half million dollars less than Send Help, but it was on 400 less screens.
And I think his per-screen average was more than Send Help.
So that is a juggernaut.
I don't know who that guy is, but he wrote it, directed stars in it.
And I think he raised all of his own money or found the money to make it.
$3 million budget, $18 million bucks first week.
This guy's on his way.
That's pretty impressive.
Thank you for a very savvy text, Al, when it comes to the box office.
Al in the 262.
All right, without further ado, folks, it is my pleasure to welcome back to Nightlight one of the programmers of Milwaukee Film, an outstanding organization in Milwaukee that focuses and celebrates independent film and community.
That's why we love Milwaukee Film.
Joining me now over the stream is Mr. Ty Williams.
Welcome back, Ty.
Hello, thank you so much for having me back again.
Hey, it's great to have you and it's good to talk to you again.
Happy Black History Month.
Happy Black History Month.
Thank you, sir.
I said at the top of the show there's not much to look for outside of Black History Month, Groundhog Day, Valentine's Day, February can pretty much suck it.
There's not a lot going on in February.
Well, that's why I'm here to talk about all the cool films that are going on in February That
is a great response and my fear was would be you were gonna say actually Pete.
I love February.
It's my favorite month, but there was All right, so if you had to share a name tie with a cartoon character, who would you pick?
Oh My first immediate choice is Tigger from Winnie the Pooh just because
Sometimes I bounce off the walls or I have way too much energy in me and I feel pretty closely connected to him more than all the other Winnie the Pooh characters.
Did you grow up watching Winnie the Pooh?
I did.
It used to come on.
I'm pretty sure there was a TV show, right?
I had a lot of the books, the children's story books, but I remember very vaguely there being a TV show that I tuned into.
That was one of those shows.
I always wanted my kids, like when they say, can we watch this or that?
I was always like, please pick Winnie the Pooh.
I think that theme song by Carly Simon is just fantastic.
The characters are so likable.
That's a great response.
And Tigger is probably the funniest character too, just because he's so goofy.
Yeah, absolutely.
All right, so let's jump in.
Tell us a little bit about yourself, Ty.
Before we talk about some of these great programs you guys have with Milwaukee Film this month, tell us a little bit about your background.
For sure.
Yeah, I have been with Milwaukee film for about six years now And I started off as a associate just scooping popcorn and now at the sixth year I am here doing programming This is my second year doing programming So I talked with Pete last year about the last Black History Month program I had and so, you know, slowly seeing me rise my way up and Select more good movies to hopefully, you know, enjoy with the community
was that when you started out like when you took the job scoop and popcorn where you're like I just need a gig, some extra money or did you start doing that with the eye of moving up the ladder at Milwaukee Film?
Yeah, I definitely say this is something I've wanted to do for a long time.
I went to UWM for film school and I used to work at the Union Cinema there as a manager and so I think I just came in in the summer one day randomly and was like this is a very nice theater and I just
said, hey, please give me a job at some point.
And then a month later, they're like, hey, come back and see if you want to work here.
And then started from there.
Very cool.
Well, that's a great story.
And I'm glad you're in the position you're in now.
So tell us about some of the programs you have this month for Black History Month.
I read, I was looking at your website earlier, and this is a word I was not familiar with.
Tell me if I'm selling it, saying it right.
Afrofuturism.
Yes, you are saying it absolutely right.
I love the word.
Tell us about it, please.
Well, the program is called Afrofuturism Fates Beyond Fiction.
Great title.
But tell us about Afrofuturism and then let's talk about some of the films.
Yeah, totally.
So Afrofuturism is a art movement that can be described as a response to sort of the trials and tribulations that many African Americans
have dealt with in the United States.
And so their response to that was to sort of imagine a better future.
And that could have been through sound, through moving image, through photography.
And so I chose films since, you know, programming at the theater to have many different examples of films that fit this category.
So all the films that we're going to talk about are things that are sci-fi-ish in nature or at least
fictional and have something to do with real-world conditions in America or at least talk about that concept
so Okay, so tell us like are these films we've all seen or these more independent films like I know you guys focus on independent films, but what are what are some Afrofuturistic movies or stars of those movies we might be familiar with
Yeah, absolutely.
So I've tried to fill this year with things that
people have seen as well as a few features and short or short documentaries that you know maybe you might not have heard of that of good context to what Afrofuturism is but we have Sorry to Bother You playing on the 12th which is a hit movie from 2018 by boots Riley which was very popular so that's very much on people's minds maybe do for a rewatch.
We also have Nope playing on February 19th, which is Jordan Peele's latest horror movie.
Recent enough to still be in memory, but still a very apt concept of Afrofuturism, a sci-fi film by a black man that talks about the conditions of the film industry and just what it means to be black in this industry as well.
So, you know, there's lots of very notable examples that you can draw back from like a year or a few ago that resonate with everybody.
Absolutely.
My guest is Ty Williams.
He's one of the programmers.
Started as a popcorn scooper, folks.
This is a great story.
Worked his way up to programmer, and now he is behind the programming this month for Black History Month in regard to Milwaukee film.
So tell us about, you've got something going on in the seventh, too, Ty, at the Oriental.
Tell us about those films.
Yeah, so on the 7th, we're going to have an Afrofuturism double feature.
It's gonna feature two films.
The first one is called The Last Angel of History, which is a documentary, and the second is called Hello Rain.
So Last Angel of History is a documentary that sort of just briefly goes through what Afrofuturism is.
Like you said, if you just haven't really run into this word before and you want to know what exactly qualifies as Afrofuturistic, then I'd highly recommend going to the screening on the 7th.
Last Angel is the documentary that will detail
the movement, and then Hello Rain is a direct example of what an Afrofuturist short film can look like.
So I wanted to provide a lot of information as well as an example for people to sort of take away, if they take away anything, just what Afrofuturism is.
It was an example of it is.
I love it.
It says in Hello Rain, Hello Rain, a scientist which through an
alchemical alchemical combination of juju and technology it creates wigs which grant she and her friends supernatural powers but when their powers grow uncontrollable she must stop them by any means this is a short film it's 30 30 minutes long that sounds intense
yeah it's jam packed it's really really intense well i wouldn't say intense but just very interesting you know very different from what you would normally see from a short film
Yeah.
And then, so is the last angel of history, you said that was kind of an introduction to Afrofuturism?
Is it a narrative or a documentary?
It's a full blown documentary detailing how the movement has sort of grown within the country and across the seas, as well as giving examples for what sort of things you may have interacted with that are part of the movement.
So a big example is techno music from Detroit is an example of a
genre that started purely from an Afrofuturist angle.
And, you know, when you dance to it, you're not necessarily thinking Afrofuturism, but it is a thing that is still there through a remnant of this art movement.
Now, if people don't live in Milwaukee or can't get down there for these films, are these films available to stream like Hello Rain or, you know, The Last Angel of History or the one you mentioned on the 12th?
Can we see those other places?
Obviously, Nope is out there.
But what about these other films?
Yeah, so if you just aren't around or you're unable to make it to the theaters We have films like nope blade Spaces the place and sorry to bother you.
These are all films that are available either through streaming or spaces the place I believe is free on YouTube blade
Disney owns that so it's very questionable where blade ends up sometimes but the last angel of history is also a documentary that's fully on YouTube So if you can't make it to the double feature I highly recommend just taking the 40 to 45 minutes out of your life and just giving it a watch because it is a very well done documentary that is also very interested interestingly You know paste it's not like a typical documentary much like these films aren't typical films.
It's not a typical documentary like Milena
millennia um what uh okay so oh i just i went for the joke ty and now i lost my question um tell us about on february 2nd you've got space is the place from 1974 that sounds kind of cool
yes february 14th actually valentine's day is when we have space is the place and that is a movie about a fictional movie about sun raw the musician
and his tale of coming down from space and wanting to free people from the chains of colonization and capitalism.
And so he says, everybody come in my spaceship and we'll get out of this place.
And from there, it's just a.
mad spiral on earth of people who believe them, don't believe them.
But it all ties together with his very interesting music, which is, you know, the center of his Afro-futuristic theology is that if I can make sounds that don't sound of this earth, then maybe we can imagine a place different from earth.
That is fantastic.
My guest is Ty Williams.
He's one of the programmers at Milwaukee Film.
And we are talking about some of the programs they're offering and some of the films they're offering this month, which is when we celebrate Black History Month.
How does Blade hold up, Ty?
I saw it so long ago, and I think I was pretty jaded when I saw it, so I was at that age where I hated everything, but I love Wesley Snipes.
How does that movie hold up?
Yeah, so I have a special place for Blade in my heart just because it is a very big piece of representation for me personally.
I like a lot of fictional films.
I'm very nerdy.
I like to dream.
I like to imagine.
And at a very young age, I saw a blade on screen and I had a thought to myself of like, whoa, I could be a vampire hunter.
This
isn't
something that's blocked off to me just because it sounds ridiculous.
And Wesley Snipes plays it so well that he's one of the most notable vampire hunters ever of all time.
And I included it in this line of just to have sort of an example of what you could call blade a sci-fi film, I would say so, that
doesn't necessarily have to be something that is super artsy or filled with the most amazing themes, but it is something that can connect people and make them feel good and imagine a world where, you know, they can be anything else.
Are you, were you a huge fan of Wesley Snipes after that too?
Like, have you seen all of his, or most of his films?
Most of them, but not all.
I can't say I've gone through the full Wesley Snipes run, but it'll happen eventually.
You know, it's so funny.
I wrote a script years ago, and I was so hell-bent on having Wesley Snipes as the lead.
I tried to get him the film when he was in prison.
I think he did like a couple years for tax evasion or something.
And I was like trying desperately in his manager like, well, you know, I had a good dialogue with the guy.
And I'm like, come on, man, he's in prison.
He's got time to read it.
I got to have Wesley Snipes in this movie.
So that's my that's my Wesley Snipes story.
And obviously it never worked out.
But Ty Williams is here, folks.
We'll have a couple more minutes with Ty when we come back and we'll find out some of the other really cool films that they'll be showing this month in Milwaukee for Black History Month and just for Milwaukee film in general at their
two really cool venues.
I'm Pete Schwab and this is Nightlight.
We are coming right back.
Welcome
back.
I'm Pete Schwab, and this is Nightlight.
Great to have you here on this Monday, the wonderful Groundhog's Day.
Phil has seen his shadow, which means we're in for six more weeks of this nonsense we call winter.
My guest at the moment is Ty Williams.
He is one of the programmers at Milwaukee Film, and he is here to tell us tonight and discuss what is happening this month in honor of Black History Month at Milwaukee Film.
They have, it all kicks off, it sounds like, on February 7th with The Last Angel of History, which will help explain Afrofuturism, which I did not
I had not heard that term before today, and then Hello Rain follows that, which just kind of elaborates.
They sound like two great films.
Ty is here.
And Ty, as you mentioned, Afrofuturism is a genre of cinema that blends science fiction, fantasy, and speculative fiction with black history, culture.
And I think that's so cool.
So tell us a little bit about, if you would, the venues that Milwaukee film uses, because they are very special.
Sure, absolutely.
So the venue that these films will be playing at is the Oriental Theater, as far as I know.
And that is our theater that is almost 100 years old.
I believe we're about three years off or so, three to five years off.
And it's a very beautiful theater.
If you've never seen it, if you're unable to go walk in, I would suggest looking up on Google.
But it provides a very, very nice space that's been restored over the years and also provides opportunities for not just locals, but artists overseas to showcase their work with us at our film festival and year round.
So it's a very special place.
I love it to death.
I wouldn't be here for six years if I didn't.
That's a great answer.
So you mentioned you went to UWM.
They have a great film school there.
Do you have aspirations still?
Are you really into programming to the point you don't want to make your own films anymore or where are you at with that?
I'm kind of writing two scripts at the moment.
Well, I am writing two scripts at the moment.
So I still am a filmmaker at heart, but I also very much love the joy of programming and sharing films with people and discussing films and kind of getting to talk to artists that I wouldn't have been able to talk to before, as well as showcase their work and put them on a spotlight and show the community, hey, different types of art are valuable, different types of moving image that you wouldn't necessarily think to try or worth your time.
I mean, for me personally, as a writer, it's always helped me to be around other writers.
So I would imagine when you're programming and the people you meet, that must be invigorating and make you want to get back at your keyboard and get at your stories, right?
Oh yeah, absolutely.
Every film festival, I feel like a lot of filmmakers around here get a big kick of just like, wow, I got to get into grind mode.
I got to work on my stuff.
So that's another reason I love the film festival so much.
All right.
So if someone came up to you, pardon me,
and said, you can pick any, let's say, two or three black directors or filmmakers that you want to feature or host a symposium on or anything.
Who are your favorites and who would you pick?
I would say Jordan Peele for sure, as well as Boots Riley.
I very much like their approach to filmmaking, editing, pacing, the whole works, the concepts they introduce.
As for a third, I feel like...
I wanna say Eva DuVernay, but I don't, yeah, Eva DuVernay, she's a filmmaker as well.
I would very much like to showcase her also because she's made so many different movies that are so different in concept that I feel like it's amazing to see a female director who can produce so much work of so much quality.
And I would love to showcase her work sometime.
Absolutely.
My guest is Ty Williams, one of the programmers of Milwaukee Film.
We're talking Black History Month.
Milwaukee films approach to celebrating that.
Is there any chance you could ever get Jordan Peele to come to Milwaukee?
Oh, I mean, you'll be the first to know if I get that to happen.
I would love that to happen.
Are you kind of in awe of him?
Like, I loved Keen Peele.
I still, anytime one of their sketches comes up on a reel.
It's typically, maybe one I haven't even seen before, and I thought I had seen them all, but I'm amazed that this guy that wrote these sketches or co-wrote them with a staff, and we've had a couple of the writers on this show, can go make a movie like Get Out or Nope.
It's unbelievable.
Yeah, truly.
I also have a big thing for horror films as well.
So the fact that he is a prolific horror movie director as well speaks volumes to breaking the mold as far as genres go.
Yeah.
We have about a minute and a half left, Ty.
Do you have any favorites for the Oscars?
What have you seen and what really resonated with you in 2025 when it came to the big screen?
Ooh, that's a good one.
I really loved weapons because, like I said, I'm very into horror.
One battle after another was great as well.
I saw it was just an accident and that movie really struck a chord with me.
That was one of those movies where
Ever since I saw it, I haven't been able to stop thinking about that ending scene.
So I'd highly recommend that one.
It's one of the foreign options.
And there's a movie called Ciderat, which is about a man searching for his daughter in the desert at a rave and kind of traveling with this rave group through the desert to look for her.
And a lot of people have recommended that to me and said, you know, see it in a theater if you can.
So I'm very excited to get the chance to see that one when available.
And what was that called again?
I believe S-I-R-A-T.
It's got one of those, you know, letters over the A, I believe, or the apostrophes over the A or something like that.
That's
awesome.
30 seconds left.
Ty, what are you binge watching?
Anything you could recommend?
We're binge-watching Traders right now, the show that's kind of like Mafia Werewolf, the celebrity fourth season one right now.
And that's been very, very interesting, very much worth my time.
So if you like reality TV, I'd say watch The Traders.
I don't, but I respect your opinion, so I might actually check that out.
Thank you, sir.
Have a great month at Milwaukee Film and away from Milwaukee Film and keep up the great work.
Thank you so much.
Thank you for having me again.
Got it.
Anytime, Ty.
Alright, that's Ty Williams.
Check out all the great stuff Milwaukee Film does.
I didn't even get to ask him about some of the other things or what's coming up at this year's Milwaukee Film Festival, but we will do that another time.
We've got news coming up in just about a minute, Conrad.
Yeah,
that's true.
You ever bet on the news?
No, I have not we got to figure something out man.
We can make a killing all right When we come back in hour number two Dan Davies will be here our question of the night folks is if you had to share a cartoon character or animated characters name Who would it be?
I said bugs Conrad said tell me Casper damn it Casper Yeah, and we'll read some of your texts when we come back and we're gonna have a great time in act two It'll be worth it.
We're coming right back.
It's peach wabba and nightlight on the civic media radio network
Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.
This is Night Light with Peach Waba.
Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.
And now, a guy who likes pina coladas but hates getting caught in the rain, Peach Waba.
Welcome back folks.
This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba.
Great to have you with me.
This is a Monday version, which sometimes sounds like Friday because I'm so excited for Mondays because I get to be back in the air and talk about all this fun stuff.
Lots going on here on Nightlight.
If you missed the first hour, Ty Williams from Milwaukee Film joined us to talk about their programming for Black History Month.
Ty's been on the show before and is a very savvy, knowledgeable film guru because he wants to be a filmmaker himself and also programs films at the very cool organization of Milwaukee Film.
So check out their website and you can see all the great films.
We didn't even get to some of the films they're showing this month Conrad.
They've got Marty Supreme and the Rocky Horror Picture Show.
They always show really fun stuff.
If you missed that interview with Ty and you want to hear what's happening in Milwaukee this month, go to civicmedia.us and download the podcast of Hour One or just tune in and listen.
Great stuff.
We also featured our Olympian of the day.
We're doing one of those a day leading up to Friday.
when the Olympics kickoff in Italy.
Paul Schomer was our choice today.
He is an Appleton resident who started off as a wrestler until he lost his father, who was also a wrestler in a car accident.
And then he kind of switched to skiing, cross-country skiing, and then fell in with a coach who finally got him into, who eventually got him into the biathlon.
So a really cool story, how he ended up on his path.
We will be cheering for Paul at the Olympics.
as they inch ever closer.
Coming up this hour, we've got Dan Davies.
He is a Northeast Wisconsin based actor and one of the biggest names in Nollywood.
Conrad, you remember where Nollywood is a thing?
Africa.
Africa.
Dan's huge.
And he's got like, what I don't understand is like, I mean, Africa's a huge continent.
Yes.
How does a guy from the Northeast, Northeast Wisconsin get to be a guy over there?
He can't even go to the bathroom in Africa without being mobbed.
All right, we'll talk to Dan.
He'll be here in studio at 6.35.
In hour number three, we have Thomas Campbell, who is a playwright and a professor at UWGB.
He teaches a lot of really cool theater courses there.
We'll talk to Thomas about some of his work and a really interesting production with a great title they have coming up at UWGB.
We'll do that in hour number three.
Right now, Conrad, I think it's important that we immediately reintroduce our question of the night.
Let's talk about the question.
Okay, question.
Question.
Question.
Pregunta.
Question.
Question.
Okay, I have a question.
Questions.
This question.
Domanda.
Question.
Questions.
This is a good one.
Brace yourselves, folks.
What cartoon character?
If you had to have a cartoon character's name, which cartoon character would you want to share that name with?
I said Bugs.
I don't want the full Bugs Bunny, even though I love Bugs Bunny.
Conrad said Casper Casper Did Chris Casper say Casper?
That's what we're waiting.
Yeah, we're waiting for his
text.
He's not listening right now And I will talk trash.
He's
probably watching Casper the friendly ghost right now
He probably is at the in the knock down there in Madison But this is in honor of Linus Roach's birthday Linus Roach was an actor on Law & Order He's been in the Batman films a really good actor
And he shares the name with Linus, which you know, that's a really unique name My guess would be that he was named after Linus the peanuts character But I don't know that for sure and I didn't do my research So who knows but I said bugs because I think bugs is a cool It can give people the impression like that you're dirty that you don't Wash and you have fleas but I choose to identify it as like a really cool gangster type thing
Like bugs bugs moran bugsy seagull, so I went with bugs
are you just really like bugs?
I don't like bugs which is weird because that's how much I like the name I can't stand bugs I hate bugs, but I like the name bugs bugs bugs Schwabba that doesn't exactly roll off the tongue Casper Krieger Casper Kree of course you'd have to Casper with it Casper no Casper's with the sea
yeah
the ghost
I would have to do with this or with the
K with a K you're right So let us know you can text us
at 855-752-4842-855-75 Civic.
Let us know what cartoon name you wouldn't mind attaching to your person.
You can also text us on the app, or if you're watching the radio on YouTube, Facebook, or X, drop us a stream comment and give us a like or a follow while you're there.
If you're so inclined, we will read your text on the radio, always more fun when you guys participate in the show.
So...
I have to come clean here.
I think I just made radio history again.
Okay, so I have this great pair of slacks Pants they're also known as pants my dad calls them slacks or trousers my dad still use the word trousers
That's a that's a really cool word.
Do you think it is?
Yeah, you know
every time we go in the store, and I'm looking for him.
I'm like Where's the trouser section?
You say that Hi, could you direct me to your trousers?
I'm time traveling from 1924
But, you know, they're all kinds of different things, but my pants, I love this pair of pants I have.
They're one of my favorite, they're the most comfortable.
The zipper broke on the way to the restroom, to the little radio host's room.
I'm doing the show, folks, with no, my fly's open.
That's radio history right there, folks.
I won't come out to that side of the room.
Don't stay in your room, buddy.
It's a little, now I gotta walk to the garage, too.
A, it's cold outside.
And B,
I don't want to be arrested.
You ever have your zipper open?
That's like the worst thing ever.
It happens to me, I'd say once every three or four years.
I'm like, oh my God.
And you're like, who saw me?
There's no way you can explain your, oh, sorry.
I just, you know, you either look like a total spaz or it's like a pervert or something.
I don't know.
It's like a weekly thing for me now.
Well, you know, I'm just gonna do it on purpose.
Oh, hello ladies.
No, I don't it is a little discerning luckily in my coat.
I don't have my longer coats I'm gonna have to like carry my duffel bag in front of myself not that anyone's ever gonna notice that I got dark slacks on dark trousers, but It's a little wounds.
I do feel like I'm in a different space right now It's a little strange kind of like I'm in a nude beach in a weird way So I got that going for me and then I want to say over the weekend
Rob Brackenridge and Mike Merrifield were on this show a couple weeks ago promoting this football fundraiser I do every year up in Marinette at the Little River Country Club.
And Marinette finally had a great year in football.
Last year they were like nine and two or something like that.
Oh, there you go.
It was insane.
Yeah, it was a big turnaround.
Congrats to Coach Nadea Wilson.
What's their mascot?
The Marine.
Oh, that's cool.
An anchor?
I don't know.
Not a U.S.
Marine like USMC Hurrah.
Semper Fi.
This is like...
They're the Marines.
Yeah, like, I could, yeah, so they have like an anchor on their helmet?
I don't know.
I didn't go there.
My wife went there.
We're both transplants.
She went there.
You never went to a football game?
I did, because my daughter was in the band.
My son begged me to play football.
I did not let him, because he was a good
student.
I didn't want him to, you know, get a concussion or
whatever.
My parents let me play.
But I wasn't a good student.
Listen, if he was like a solid C student, like his old man, I would have let him play.
It's a weird I stuck with basketball.
That was the sport I was probably the worst at of the main three that my high school Marinette Catholic Central now St.
Thomas Aquinas Offered they didn't offer soccer.
I don't even think they had a track team when I was there and I was you know, okay football and okay baseball I wasn't that great at basketball.
I couldn't dribble I could jump and I could shoot but I'm six feet tall That's not gonna get you much PT
Yeah, I played like everything
High school pretty much.
But you liked basketball too.
That's kind of how you and I bonded.
Basketball is my
favorite sport.
Me too.
To
play.
I played basketball and to watch.
I watched a lot of basketball and I played basketball, football, soccer, or one year soccer, baseball.
And I played tennis for a short period of time.
See, we didn't have tennis.
We didn't have soccer.
I probably would have enjoyed playing soccer.
Yeah, but it wasn't even a it wasn't on my radar I didn't care about soccer when I was in high school But if I was exposed to it, maybe I would but I loved playing basketball like I didn't care that I didn't get in the games I would I just love scrimmaging and running all day.
It was just
awesome.
I you know in soccer I did it I Played it and I don't know I it wasn't good at it, but I just kept taking notes on the book games
for soccer Yeah, well,
I just
yeah
kept track
of you get some like
Tuition knocked off for that or something.
There's no public high school.
Can you ask him hi?
No, yeah, it's just No,
yeah,
it's senior things,
but these guys Rob Brackenridge crushed he went last Mike Merrifield who was on the show He went up and destroyed as well.
So it was such a fun night.
It was great to see people out there And a great night of comedy too really funny guys if you get a chance folks to see Rob Brackenridge or Mike Merrifield They're two guys based in Appleton
And Rob lived in LA for like 23 years.
Mike has always lived in Appleton, but he works Vegas.
He travels all over the place.
And I'm kind of floored by the fact that he's just been able to never leave there and still become the comic he's become.
That's incredible.
So two really good dudes and a tip of my hat to them for making the drive up to Marinette.
All right.
So last week, as we talked about on the show, Catherine O'Hara passed away.
Very tragic.
Maybe not tragic, but really unfortunate.
She was 71.
She wasn't a young woman, but she wasn't really old.
By today's standards, that's not that old.
And it was a tragic thing.
And we had a technical difficulty last week when we tried to play this clip.
This is my favorite Catherine O'Hara clip.
This is from Waiting for Guffman, Christopher Guest's masterpiece about community theater.
Eugene Levy and his wife are dining with Fred Willard and Catherine O'Hara, who make maybe the funniest movie couple ever.
Catherine O'Hara, as I said last week, has had too much to drink.
Nobody plays a better drunk or played a better drunk than Catherine O'Hara.
And here is the audio from my favorite Catherine O'Hara scene.
This is true.
You know, in China, they will kill a monkey at the table and split its head open, eat the brains right out of it.
We had friends, Barbara and Bruce, remember?
who went to China, and I'm sure you're in the travel business that you've been there, but they went to Peking where they make the ducks.
And what they say is that the food
over
there is not as good.
You can't get a sauce as thick and sweet over there.
They don't make it like that.
The food is like steamed or something.
And that's right.
Yeah, we got some good packages.
That's right.
If you
ever want to get down to Miami, Miami Beach, we got a great package a week, two weeks.
Oh, yeah.
You get
everything you
need.
Any
kind of food in blame, you don't... You know, you get Chinese here, and no need to
go.
We're talking about Miami now, dear.
Yeah,
we'd love to
go.
We'd love
to...
Is it a direct flight?
We've got to break packs a week, two weeks.
Like there aren't Chinese people in Miami.
Well, we should.
You know, we've stopped them.
Of course there are Chinese people in Miami.
We're
talking about China.
I'm talking about going to Miami.
That's the only thing.
We're talking about Miami.
Dear,
why don't you put some food on your stomach?
We're having a good one.
What's that?
What's
that?
I'll
talk.
What's it like to be with a circumcised
man?
I'd ask
you more about that, but Ron said.
The whole Jew things.
Because when Ron had his surgery, when Ron had his surgery, I said, hey, circumcise it while you're at it.
You know, just because I've never been with anyone else.
Ron's
the only
man I've
been
with.
What
surgery did he
enter?
I don't know a
minor corrective surgery.
Can we have
some
coffee at this table,
please?
It's not minor anymore.
Well, maybe, you know, we should change the
subject.
No, it's... I had what most guys would dream of, you know, and I had to have a penis reduction surgery.
I'm sorry?
Penis reduction.
Which there aren't many.
You're going to say I never heard of that because there haven't been
many cases.
How's Iran?
Do something.
And he said, why don't you get one of those vagina enlargements?
Oh, it's there.
Come here,
some
coffee over here.
The great Catherine O'Hara.
Just outstanding stuff.
We're going to do a very short break here, folks.
And when we come back, I'm going to read your text.
And I don't know, should we talk about Dr. Pepper?
Yeah.
Or do the, this thing I found that says, great things happening in February.
I will figure it out, folks.
It's Nightlight with Pete Schwabba.
Come on
back.
Welcome back.
We are jamming through a Monday night here, folks.
Wherever you're joining us from across the state, it is great to have you at Nightlight here.
I am Pete Schwabba, and it is February.
I wish I had better news, Conrad.
But it's February.
It is.
It is.
The good news is we can read some texts.
Our question of the night is if you had to share a name with a cartoon character, which cartoon character would you pick?
There's so many great ones.
I said Bugs.
Half of Bugs Bunny.
Conrad said Casper with a K obviously.
And Dave on the stream said Bugs Bunny.
Paula Krieger.
Yes, there is a relation.
Conrad's mom says Velma from Scooby-Doo.
Then I can solve mysteries.
I don't know if your mom can actually solve mysteries just because she has the same, you know.
Well,
I mean, if you lose your glasses, then you're kind of screwed
too.
That's right.
And then we've got JB Thompson, the guy behind the guy.
Conrad behind the guy.
There you go.
I was waiting Let's get after some nightlight one of the best shows in Wisconsin Well, thank you JB very nice of you to say and we've got to get JB back on the show one of these days He was a fine guest and a mover and a shaker here in northeast Wisconsin Barb from Waukesha Pardon me in the 262 says hello and happy Groundhog day.
I like Lucy van Pelt Charlie Brown's love interest She is tough smart
and witty.
She was way ahead of her time.
She was great, Barb.
Lucy, did Charlie Brown, he was gullible?
And he did dumb things around her, but did he pine for her?
I don't remember that.
But I'll take your word for it.
I just learned something.
Monica from Mount Horrib in the 608 says, I don't know if I like the name, but it seems the most fitting because I'm a klutz, accident prone Daphne from Scooby-Doo.
Yes, February made me shiver, but you forgot Fat Tuesday, which can be fun if you're not too frozen to make an effort.
I forgot about Fat Tuesday.
All right, so you do have Fat Tuesday and Ash Wednesday.
So there you go.
So there's another sort of holiday here in February.
Makes it a little bit better.
Jim from Madison in the 608 says, Jimmy the Groundhog said early spring, Jimmy the Groundhog.
Is that Jimmy from like Madison or Jimmy from... I can't think of a town in Wisconsin that starts with uh... Yeah, Sun
Prairie.
Huh?
Sun Prairies, Jimmy the Groundhog.
Oh, they do that?
That's... Oh, they should at least name them like Steve or something.
Steve from Sun Prairie, like Punx-a-Tawney Phil.
Yeah.
It doesn't make sense either, because there's the B sound and then the F sound.
Thank you, Jim, for Madison.
I'm losing my mind.
Al in the 2-6-2.
Oh, we already read Al's.
Steve Conrad's dad from the 9-2-0 says, Tasmanian Devil would be my animated character name.
Also, remember Conrad, if you change your name to Casper, the friendly ghost, you will be expected to spell your name with a K for Casper.
We are, for once, a step ahead of you, Steve.
We got it covered.
And Conrad, we're heading over to the courthouse tomorrow.
He's going to change his name.
But he will use K. Uh, Chris from Sun Prairie, home of, uh... It's Jimmy.
Steve.
Jimmy.
Jimmy the Groundhog.
And the 773 says Monkey D'Luffy because... Monkey D'Luffy.
Is that how you say it?
Yeah.
Phenetically, that doesn't work for me.
But okay.
Thank you, Chris.
Monkey D'Luffy.
Because I want to be king of the pirates someday, I would probably just go by Luffy.
But then people might call you Luffy.
Chris, so I don't know.
I think you got it under control, though.
Jewel from the 920 says Snaggle Puss.
That's a great one.
One stone's right.
No, Snaggle Puss was, uh, oh man, was it?
Or is it Justin's?
Not Land of the Lost.
No, I don't, do a, do a Google.
I'll do a Google.
I thought I knew who Snaggle Puss was.
Monica again from Mount Horror.
Well, pervert Pete or Pete the perv.
What?
I hope you are aware.
Because I said my fly is open again.
Yeah, I got no zipper Monica.
This is not This is not like me walking around hoping people see me.
This is I legitimately lost a zipper on a very old pair of trousers, but Monica Isn't having it.
She says well pervert Pete or Pete the perv.
I hope you are wearing drawers Also an old word for underwear.
I like to use the word drawers rather than underwear panties black, etc
I am my favorite personal is underpants because it sounds so like 70s when I was growing
up.
I think I'm gonna go fully just pantaloons on everything.
I Was not going commando today.
Thank God who would go commando when in this kind of weather?
That's insane.
Yeah, and if I if I had to do that I have to I have to go to the closet here and get someone like cost something costume or wardrobe.
Oh, we got a phone call.
Yeah
Hey,
Ollie from the Northwoods.
How are you
Ollie?
My favorite character isn't necessarily a cartoon.
It's Darla from the Little Rascal.
Oh, that's a great one.
That counts.
They're very animated.
Yes, and my husband, when he was alive, he was called Wimpy by his brothers because he ate so many hamburgers when they worked together.
in Chicago area.
That's all he ever ate was hamburgers.
Wimpy, of course, from Popeye, who you're right,
ate
hamburgers by the boatload.
Great character.
That was so great.
Ollie,
thank you.
When I picked hamburgers at home, he used to eat four of them.
Can
you imagine that?
You had to keep them coming.
Oh, that's
fantastic.
Thank you so much, Ollie.
Have a great night.
All right.
I was working the road doing stand-up with Jimmy Pardo once who's been on the show and I got three McDonald's hamburgers.
So I got on my tray three open burgers and he looked at me and he goes, what are you, wimpy?
So, that was my wimpy reference.
We've got, let's see.
Oh, Dan Davies is coming up next after the news, folks.
We are going to get an update on a project he is part of that is very cool.
It's a 50-year-old film, and it's a cult classic.
You're not going to want to miss this.
That's coming up next.
This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on The Civic Media, radio
network.
I'm Pete Schwab.
This is Nightlight.
It is great to have you here, folks.
Let's do a couple.
We're almost caught up.
I'm going to read these before we bring Dan in.
Janet from Madison in the 608 says, she is quoting our clip of Catherine.
O'Hara from Waiting for Government.
It's not minor anymore after he had the corrective surgery, the penis reduction.
She says, what a gem she was.
Her humor will live on with so many classic performances.
Could not agree more, Janet.
Excellent text.
Tony the trucker also in the 608 says, Pete Yosemite.
I think he means Yosemite, Sam.
I've been told I can be a little cantankerous at times only because they had it coming.
Of course they did, Tony.
And you could pull your both guns and shoot them in the air like Yosemite Sam did.
You're in good company.
Great text.
Jim from Appleton in the 920 says, a cartoon character, I would be named after.
Thank you, Steven Spielberg.
Freakazoid.
You know who that is kind of?
I don't.
Let's go to the Google or let's ask my next guest.
Maybe he knows but no pressure Joining me now at nightlight is a Northeast Wisconsin based actor who is always fun to have on the show his credits include Ed Geene the musical and the giant spider invasion Which he is here to talk about tonight, and we'll also tell you where he's so popular you can't even go to the bathroom without being mob We'll get all of that with our pal Dan Davies.
Hey, buddy.
How are you?
Hello Pete?
Hello Conrad.
Hello everybody out there.
You know if every guest Dressed as nicely as you did
Our ratings would be a lot higher.
You know
my grandfather um was Trained to be a tailor.
So.
Oh, wow.
Yes.
So his people Irish Indian they basically were generations of and he he didn't become one But he always wanted to be one and trained as one
And so he said, Danny, he said, if you're going to be out in public, look like you're going to your present church.
And I was like, OK, that's cool.
And have everything Taylor made.
So that's kind of what he.
So this is all Taylor made.
All of it is.
Yeah.
Dude, that's fantastic.
So did you say Irish Indian?
Yeah.
So yeah.
So
I'm three quarters Irish and American Indian Seneca of the Iroquois.
And I'm Welsh and Scottish as well.
So I'm an eighth American Indian.
Look at that.
You
know, people like you, Dan,
really irritate me because
I've got Irish, some Scottish, a little bit of without going into too much detail as I have in the past.
A little bit of German, but I'm like the whitest guy ever.
I got like a pinkish hue.
There's nothing exotic about my appearance.
I would kill.
to have a little bit of Native Americans,
and
Hispanics, and blacks, something.
It's cop- I
just
want a tan.
I have a copper color, so my grandpa said, if you're out in the sun, don't allow people to call you red.
Say that your skin is copper color.
That was important to him.
That we weren't called red, you know, red men,
or whatever.
Because of the
Indians.
Because
of, yeah, so I have a natural copper...
complexion year-round and people are like, where do you get that from?
Do you have a tanning booth in your house?
I'm like, no.
This is, you know, this is my skin year-round.
I can't help it.
I'm just curious where you get.
Like what would the reaction was when people said, oh, you're really red.
You said no, no, no, it's copper.
Yeah, you could push back on that as a
matter of fact you've had one of the guys on Rex likes said made a comment one time and I love Rex We've been friends for
years.
I like Rex.
I love Rex.
I love him
actually And he he made a comment about my skin tone and I said, oh, hey Rex.
I don't want to publicly You know shame you but you can't say red you have to say
It's copper yeah because of my ethnicity, you know, you know, and it's fine, but it's copper
so that's that's the reaction I get like because I'm not technically German or Polish I'm cashew The cashews are from the Danzig region and that's all I'll say because when I go when I elaborate when people ask and I go do you really want to hear they go Yes, I get a line or two into that and then their eyes glaze over and they're like I can't believe I said I wanted to hear this How much Irish are you?
Probably over fifth probably somewhere between fifty and seventy five percent.
Yeah, that's that's what I my mom's Murphy Yeah, my grandma's Griffin.
So yeah, it's yeah Yeah, what's Davies is that it's Davies
is a Welsh name, but I'm very
little Welsh.
I'm very Irish
great Yeah, you look I totally see the Irish.
Thank you.
So is there a cartoon character you
I'm trying to think of Aquitaine hunger for say like all of those cartoon characters
You know Bart Simpson.
Are you like going old school?
Listen, there no any anything you want Yeah, while he coyote, you know the Roadrunner But
yeah, I like
picking a name Dan you got to go by the name
So would I make up a name for myself?
Sure.
Like, well, Irish, I'm all potatoes and no meat would be my cartoon character.
That's a lot of mouthful.
Despite
that.
I won't make a joke about that.
All right.
So it's great to have you here.
Thank you.
You've got fans on the stream.
Kurt Krause, a mutual pal of ours, is tuning in from Joliet, Illinois.
Tonight, I'm not sure if I'm liking more, so to Jeremy from the comic strip, Zits, or Bob the Tomato from Veggie Tales.
Either one of those are acceptable, Kurt.
Conrad, did you find out where Snagglepuss is?
Yo, Yogi?
Oh, maybe I didn't know Snagglepuss.
I know the name.
Snagglepuss.
Yeah, from Yogi Bear?
Yeah.
But
that was even before my time.
You know, because it was reruns when I saw it, but Snagglepuss
was
great.
He'd go, exit, stage left.
Oh, that's Snagglepuss.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
Hi, Kurt and JB.
I see Kurt's name there.
I really dig the jacket.
He says, yeah, Kurt says, I really dig the jacket.
Damn, great look.
Thank you, Kurt.
Kurt's also a pretty slick dresser when he wants, when he cleans up.
JB says, I was on prison break there.
Hope you are well, Kurt.
JB led a
prison, but JB led a prison break on that TV show.
What?
Yeah, he was on that
TV show Prison
Break.
Yes, he was.
Yeah.
So
he was on the TV show Prison Break.
He's leading like a bum rush out of the prison.
Because he told me that.
Seriously.
Yeah.
And I said, are you talking the TV show or real life, Jamie?
Yeah.
You know, because he's done time, you know.
He's done time.
Either way, it's street cred in my book, whether you did it on TV or in real life.
I want to thank you.
And JB, you're here in person.
You guys came down to the screening in December of The Godfather of Green Bay.
It was so awesome
seeing you guys there.
Oh, it was so much fun.
I truly, truly appreciated it.
It was great to have you guys
there.
At the Atwood.
At the Atwood Music Hall.
At
the Atwood Music Hall.
Yep.
It
was so much fun.
So much fun.
So, all right, so...
Where we start the giant spider invasion sure what a cool thing 50 years old cult classic shot here in Wisconsin released in 1975 tell us the background how you got involved in this so um Craig
and it
our
friend uncle Craigers
I knew him originally and said, hey, you guys, you want to talk to Bill Rabain?
He's 88.
No, he's 89 now, but he was 88 at the time.
And just to get to know him because he wants, Dan, he's seen a film of yours at Gein and West of Thunder and blah, blah, blah.
So we got him on the phone and we started talking to him.
And he's very engaging and still very with it and very lucid for
his age.
He's 89 right now.
excuse me 89 years old yeah and so as we were talking over about a six-month period we said well let's reboot let's remake the giant spider invasion and then as we were talking we thought well why don't we keep the best 80 minutes of the film and add about 20
Okay, excuse me.
Yeah,
I
had about 20 minutes to it and that's what we did so Craig Kinnit wrote a lot of the the the fun stuff then Bill Rebane was writing again these characters I play a newscaster from 1975 his name is Ted Titman so they take this to pay off and they've got a 1975 comb over
to
pay and they look like Harvey Corman.
That's a to pay.
Yeah,
I never would have guessed
that
And I look like Harvey Corman on steroids in the film, but it's
it's very
funny.
And it's it's it adds to the narrative and it adds to the campiness of the film.
And the film was a top 50 box office in 1975.
Yeah.
And people your jaws came
out, right?
Same your jaws came out.
And one flew over the cuckoo's nest and that Al Pacino movie was it Scarface.
I think it was maybe
Scarface.
And so it was it has is called following rift tracks and Mystery Science Theater 3000.
It's their
most watched episode ever.
So yeah, it was an honor to film with him and he directed, we went up to Saxon on Lake Superior, literally where Eskimos live and igloos and all kinds
of stuff.
For the re-shoots.
Yeah, for the
re-shoots and it's four and a half hours literally from here one way.
And it was crazy and Bill was in good spirits and still 100% there.
You know, it was amazing and we added a lot to it in the film now is having this re-release and it's going to be limited theatrically.
We've got state theaters in the state, Roger Sinema's in the state.
We're talking to the Marcus people.
We're going to be at the Schubert's Hartford.
10plex or Cineplex in Hartford, Wisconsin, March 13 and 14 with this new version and Bill's going to be there and we've got a four foot prop spider from the film and it's just going to be fun.
There'll be meet and greets and photo ops and a merchandising and to really meet a living legend and Bill Rabay who started off in the 1950s.
The first film he worked on was with Cary Grant.
That is incredible.
Is that great?
When Bill was on the show, like maybe a year and a half ago, he told, well, he just told us, incredible.
He was an immigrant from somewhere in this.
Estonia.
Estonia, yeah.
And he went to Chicago and did some things there, ended up in Northern Wisconsin, which is where he filmed the original, brought Alan Hale, Barbara Hale, and to Northern Wisconsin and filmed this cult classic.
So you guys have taken, pardon me, you guys have taken that film.
with Bill's blessing or his urging and done a reboot and shot new stuff to put in this old film.
And my first question, Dan, or the first thought that came to mind is, how tedious was that?
Like, you're working with different technology.
It's not like Warner Brothers has a film and they have all the materials and deliverables.
This is a print.
What were you working on?
Yeah, so it was originally shot 35 millimeter Yeah, and we shot it on video but nowadays in the post-production process and how you film it you can make it look like it's 1975 with that patina and that you know sepia kind of
Yeah
color to it so it matches amazing and we had Aaron yanda as well from Madison from Chad Vader Play a really cool character.
He plays our cameraman in the film and and
Chad Vader's having their 20th anniversary this year.
100 million people have seen that series on YouTube, so
it was neat
to get Aaron Yanda.
We had some really great people, you know, J.B.
Thompson and Craig Connit.
We had some just amazing people, got together, Erickle Branson, and did some really fine things with it, and I'm very excited for it.
Yeah, as you should be.
Dan Davies is my guest.
He is an Northeast Wisconsin based actor and filmmaker, and he is working or worked on the reboot of the cult classic that was filmed here in Wisconsin 50 years ago, the Giant Spider invasion.
What still needs to be done, Dan?
So so we've got this March 13 14 And then we're going to be doing events throughout the state through
the
state theaters in the southwest part of the state and then Roger cinemas Which is in the middle to northern part of the state having these events.
It's not just having the screening It's having Bill Rebane there It's an opportunity to meet that living legend to have the prop there to have the meet and greet to have the intro to have those photo ops to do something different because theaters are really hurting
And if you can bring an event to a theater, it's going to help it.
And we've had some really good showings of the film the last like six months or so.
But this is kind of the premiere of this newest version, March 13 and 14.
And then it'll do the limited run.
And, you know, that's kind of what we're doing then DVD release with DVD extras.
And it was just an honor.
I grew up watching Gilligan's Island.
Oh, yeah.
So to see Gilligan, you know, in a movie with Alan Hale.
Yeah, that's so cool.
Dan Davies is here.
We're going to take a very short break and we'll come back and talk more about the giant spider.
invasion and what country he is one of the most famous people in the world in or continent I should say it's really cool stuff so we'll be back in just a few minutes don't go anywhere folks this is peach wabba in nightlight on the civic media radio network
I'm Pete Chihuahua.
This is Nightlight.
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Dan Davies is my guest.
He is a Northeast Wisconsin based actor.
His most recent project that we were just talking about before the break is the Giant Spider Invasion.
And it's a remake, a reboot, you guys are calling it.
It's 50 years to the year date.
They're about that the original came out from director Bill Rabain.
It was filmed in northern Wisconsin with Skipper from Gilligan's Island, also known as Alan Hale.
Barbara Hale, no relation, right?
No relation.
She was on Perry Mason.
That's right, Perry Mason.
And for whatever reason, and that's my next question, Dan, you guys worked on this with the original director, Bill Rabain, who is 89 years old now.
Why why did he want to do this?
You know, he said once a filmmaker always a filmmaker Yeah, and he said he he told me this he said if I'm not doing the business of show business I'm not alive.
Yeah, literally said that and So it's really important to him and I saw that spark in his eye when we met him
the first couple of times he had this passion for it and I said we gotta you know at 89 this could literally be his last hurrah so let's honor his legacy let's honor him
by getting this done and doing a great job with it.
And we had Steve Mady, who we're also honoring, who was our DP, who sadly passed about three months after we were finished filming.
Actually, we're still filming things.
And only in the 60s.
And just a wonderful guy.
So we're doing this to honor people and Steve and then honor Bill Rebane's legacy as well.
So what, all right, now my next question is what
What did you do differently?
This is not a remake.
You're taking the original, you're adding 20 minutes to it.
So what was the, what did you add?
More horror, more story, more romance.
So there is more of the story than narrative.
So when Bill would watch the film, he'd be like, I wish we could have explained this a little bit better and explained that.
As a filmmaker, you always look back, you know, Godfather Green Bay, you probably saw it when we saw it in Madison.
You're like, oh shoot, I wish we would have done this, this or that.
Nope.
So he said if we could have added to the narrative in the story to get the scientific reasoning why these giant spiders came and why they attacked the small town in northern Wisconsin and and so forth and so on and so my character is kind of that conduit for that and there's some comedy too with having Aaron Yanda and
We're actually out on the street, so I'm in a studio.
Bill built a studio on the third floor of his home that looks like a 1975 TV studio.
But then we had some man-on-the-street interviews, and it works so hand-in-glove with the film.
It's just, what a great compliment for me.
And I think for Bill as well, I really enjoy the film.
I've seen it now a couple of different times.
Have you ever heard of another...
situation like this
no
people took an actual finished film and added to it
no I mean I mean I've seen that within the construct of maybe like a year or two like the film is you know just in the process of having the first draft maybe it's not picture-locked and then they'll add things to it but I've never in the history of Hollywood a director has never directed his reboot of his own film 50 years later
So yeah 89 and so it's really kind of cool.
It's a campy.
It's fun.
It's it's funny and and and having these events to be able to meet Bill Rubin and meet the filmmakers is gonna be fun
My guest is Dan Davies.
He's a Northeast Wisconsin based actor We are talking about the reboot of the giant spider invasion which you can see March 13th and 14th at Schubert's Hartford Theater in good old Hartford, Wisconsin
Let me ask you this Dan.
I don't mean to open up a can of worms here But you know you got the estates of all these old actors.
Do you have to pay residuals or do anything like that?
No, a lot of them have passed.
Yeah, there's only that's a relief There's there's only I think one or two alive from the film
Now there are kids that were in the film where the giant 40-foot spider is after them and they're running.
Those people are still alive because they're like in their 50s.
But there are two actors that have small supporting roles that are both in their 80s, one I think is 90, that are still alive, but the rest of them have gone to heaven.
That's so
great.
All right, well, I wish you guys luck.
How long did that take you guys to do?
We did over about a six-month period, probably seven or eight days of filming over that time, because we had to juggle a lot of different schedules, and there were a lot of moving parts, but we're really excited for it.
Dan Davies is here, folks.
We're turning to the stream.
JB says, JB Thompson on the stream says, would love to meet Veronica Pope.
Have you met her yet, Pete?
Have I?
She's the
Wisconsin Film Office director.
Oh, yeah,
sure.
Veronica Pope.
I know that's not her.
I sent her an email, but she didn't say anything back.
She didn't send anything back.
So then I left a voicemail.
But I did it as, I think, Morgan Freeman.
Hello, Veronica.
And she's still gonna get back to you.
Yeah, I was like, you
know.
I have not met her yet, JB, but I will be talking to her because I'm part of a project that hopefully we can do something with the Wisconsin Film Office.
Kurt Kraus says, congratulations, guys.
You have a very good thing going.
Ultimately, in theater, you want to give audiences a great experience, and I think you're going to deliver on it with the re-release.
I have every confidence they will as well, Kurt.
J.B.
Thompson once again says, I thought we were adding additional footage to the Godfather of Green Bay for our next project.
Go for it, buddy.
I'll write
you a blank check.
I would
love to know what J.B.
would change or want to add to.
That could be interesting.
And then Craig Connit says, our Giant Spider version already played really, really well in Rhinelander to a respectable audience.
The audience loved Dan.
I believe that,
and I
forgot you guys did that.
That's kind of cool.
Yeah, we've had a couple of them, but this is kind of the real, real kickoff and the real premiere.
But thank you, Uncle Craigers and everybody, that I'm glad they loved it.
You know, there aren't many films where you can see me completely nude.
Wow.
There needs to be more of those.
How many more remakes can you do, really?
Dan Davis is here.
Can we keep you for a few more minutes?
Hells to the
end.
All right, we're going to ask Dan.
He is a nollywood phenomenon.
We're going to talk about that.
If you have questions like I do, we'll find all of that out after the news.
Dan Davies is here coming up at 7.20.
Thomas Campbell will be here too, a very renowned playwright and professor at UWGB.
This is Pete Schwabba and Night Light.
The news is next on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.
This is Night Light with Pete Chwaba.
Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.
And now, a guy who does his own stunts, Pete Chwaba.
Hey, welcome back.
We are kicking off act three here right now folks We've had a lot of fun here tonight over the course of the first two hours if you missed our number one Check it out at civic media dot US.
Ty Williams was here He is one of the programmers of Milwaukee film and they have a whole a lot of really cool events to celebrate Black History Month at Milwaukee film all month long as you know from the top of the show February is black history month one of the few Good things about February.
I think we established
Yeah,
and especially this February where we're getting more Groundhog Day,
Black History Month, Valentine's Day,
okay,
and Super Bowl.
It's
only 28 days this year.
February blows.
Yeah.
the shorter the better.
That is the voice of Dan Davies.
He is my current guest here in studio.
We will be back with Dan in just a moment.
But we talked with Dan in the second hour as well.
That is also available at civicmedia.us.
You can download the podcast there.
Our question of the night is if you had to share a name with a cartoon character like actor Linus Roach does.
Linus Roach was in Batman, Law and Order.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say he was named after Linus, the Peanuts character, because you don't just name, you're named Kid Linus, right?
Yeah.
It's like a Catholic saint.
Linus'?
Yeah.
Oh, well, maybe he was named after that and not a cartoon character.
I don't know how deep his parents were.
Either way, join the fun, folks.
Let us know which cartoon character you'd like to share a name with if you had to.
We also talked about Catherine O'Hara a little bit.
Groundhog Day, the great movie.
We're having a lot of fun here tonight.
Coming up at 7.20 here in Act 3 will be Thomas Campbell.
He is a playwright and a professor at UWGB.
They've got some great stuff going on at UWGB this spring and Thomas will keep us informed as to what some of those great events are.
He'll be along shortly.
And right now, let's get back to my pal, Dan Davies, who is in the studio here.
As I mentioned, he is a Northeast Wisconsin based actor.
And I, you know, Dan, I'm kind of fascinated when, like I always thought when I was a kid, you know, I want to be a comedian.
So I moved back to where I was born in Chicago when I started my standup career.
Then I moved to LA and I came back.
You've managed to carve out an acting career from Northeast Wisconsin.
There was a comedian I had in Marinette this past weekend, Mike Merrifield.
who a hilariously funny comedian.
He was there with Rob Bracken, they're both great, but Rob spent 23 years in LA.
Mike told me he's never left Appleton, and
he's done
it, and he's a national headliner, and so you can do this gig, right?
It wouldn't be at comedy, music, acting, whatever, and not go to the coast.
You bet, it's just gonna take you longer.
Yeah.
You
probably have to work a little harder.
And work a little harder.
Yeah.
But I always wanted to own the product or have some ownership to it.
And if I was going to be a creative, I wanted to, I think you could pigeon hold in Hollywood.
You're just an actor.
You're not a writer or director or producer.
You know, now Tom Cruise could do just whatever
he
wants.
But I really wanted to write and produce and act and do all those things.
And I was able, fortunate.
enough to do it through the independent film scene in the Midwest without having to move.
And I just, you know, put my own, you know, money where my mouth was with Ed Geene the musical.
And that kind of shot me into this other strata when it became a cult classic.
And I've been able to do this and kind of eke out a living.
Yeah.
And that's more important than if you do what you love.
I mean, you know, sure, we could have gone into other fields.
But yeah, I always equate it to like the fabulous Baker boys.
Remember that movie with Bo and Jeff Bridges?
And their whole goal in life was just not to work in an office.
Yeah.
And they're like, if we can get by, we are living, man.
And that's kind of how a lot of people in show business feel.
You know, and that's the thing too.
If you do what you love, you never work a day in
your life.
Exactly.
All right.
So we talked about The Giant Spider Invasion, folks.
This is a movie that came out 50 years ago.
Director Bill Rabain shot it in the Northwoods of Wisconsin.
Dan and some other filmmakers here from Northeast Wisconsin befriended Bill years ago.
work together with him on this, you're not calling it a remake, it's a reboot, you've added 20 minutes.
tell us again where they can see it then.
Yeah, so March 13, 14 at the Hartford Cineplex or Hartford Schubert's Theater in Hartford, Wisconsin.
And that's going to be a big event with Bill Rabain there.
We're going to have the four foot spider, photo ops, Q&As, meet and greets, autographed posters that originally from 1975 he's got some still.
It's pretty crazy stuff.
So that's going to be a real fun event.
And we're looking at a limited theatrical
for it after that with the state theaters and then Roger cinemas and then hopefully Marcus cinemas as well in the Swick theaters up north as well.
So Midwest limited theatrical and just have a lot of fun with it and get people out there.
It's a film that put Wisconsin on the cinematic map.
Yeah, over 50 years ago in 1975.
It
came out the same year Jaws came out, finished.
It was one of the top 50 highest earning films in 1975.
All right, Dan, now we got to get to a topic that I've been waiting to talk to you about for a while.
And for whatever reason, it flew under the radar the last couple of times you were here, but I always see your posts about Nollywood.
Yeah.
and how huge you are in Africa.
That's unbelievable.
Tell us what Nollywood is and how did that happen?
So, Nollywood's the second largest film market in the world, second only to Bollywood of India.
And not only what is actually out of Nigeria, Nigeria is a country about 250 million people in Ghana, which is about 40, 50 million people, West Africa specifically, but it's kind of the unofficial film market of the continent of Africa and the diaspora of West Africans living in like...
Germany and London and Toronto and Atlanta.
It's a massive, massive, massive market.
And I did a film that was at the Toronto International Film Festival and these Nigerian people came up to me and said, hey, we're doing this film and we loved your character.
Can you play a bad guy?
I said, of course I can.
And they
met
me.
Yeah.
And they said, can you play a Russian?
I said, of course I can.
And but I couldn't.
So I would do my Russian and I'd sound like Yakov Smirnov.
So I had them change my character in Eastern European, a mobster, and that was called Tempting Fate.
It did really well in Africa.
It opened in LA.
And then while it was in Africa, it opened on the IMAX, and these people came up and said, now we want you in this film, A Trip to Jamaica, which was shot in Nigeria, Ghana, Atlanta, and Jamaica with Eric Roberts and myself for the only American actors.
And that became the number one Nollywood film of all time.
in 2017.
It got into the Guinness Book World Record.
It's been since broken.
But yeah, I'm considered a top 100 Nollywood box office actor of all time.
Just some dummy
from the year 2000.
And like the top five or
something of people from...
Well,
in the United States, I'm number one.
So
I'm number one.
Danny Glover is number two.
Eric Roberts
is number three.
Vivica
Fox is number four.
So wow, which is really weird in Hollywood everyone.
It's just it's absolutely crazy in Nigeria Millions of people know who I am which is odd in America,
you
know seven bartenders and my You know my bartender, you know my my therapist know who I am.
That's about it So what was it like filming over there?
It's really weird because you have bodyguards all the time
When you're when you're even walking the streets going to the bathroom We went to a soccer match and that was very strange to have the bodyguards
all the
time with AK-47s a whole works and It's pretty nuts.
It's but it's neat We're I'm doing a film that I just attached to top 10.
Nollywood director Called a forest dark his name is Robert Peters.
He's top 10 of all time and I had called him he lives in Atlanta originally from Lagos, Nigeria and he
He's excited about it.
So, and I just, I talked to Pete, Pete has a role in it.
So, and
I guess I just
got hired.
So
I'll take it, man.
You never know with this business.
You gotta pounce.
So, how long ago was that?
And will you go back over there again to do more movies or?
So, yeah, so that was 2016, 2017.
Their political climate isn't safe.
They've had like 100,000 people murdered.
in Nigeria.
It's a religious war, almost.
Muslims and
Christians.
And it's a huge country.
125 million Christians, 125 million Muslims.
And it's terrible.
And
it's been like that for about six, seven years.
So it's very dangerous to be somebody from the West coming over.
from America or England, you know.
That is crazy.
So your films have been seen by over 50 million people theatrically in Africa and Europe and worldwide on Netflix and Hulu.
Because of this number, have you ever thought about like parlaying that and leaving Northeast Wisconsin?
Not necessarily to Nigeria, but to another film hub somewhere.
Yeah.
I've worked with other people that are part of different branches that were Jamaica and Ghana and there was an Indian actor from India who wanted me to do a Bollywood thing.
So there's a little bit of inklings of that.
stretching out for me to be able to do those things.
I do want to get a bunch of films, though, out, one of them very quickly, that Daniel Wheeler is putting together.
It was just
genius.
My brother in Bigfoot.
And I'm super excited for it.
I play kind of this journalist who has his own ideas, but it's very, very funny.
It's a mockumentary about a brother who kind of lost his younger brother who went out looking for Bigfoot.
And it's funny, and it's warm, and it's touching, so I'm very excited about that.
And obviously, Giant Spider Invasion and Forest Ark and Deer McGinn, the musical.
So I'm very fortunate with all these projects.
Yeah, you're a busy guy.
Let's talk about real real quick.
If people have not heard of or seen Ed Gein, the musical, you made a film about Ed Gein.
It's been, you know, you've been quoted and they've taken snippets from it and national publications primarily because of the Netflix series.
Yeah.
But Ryan Murphy.
What when did your fixation with Ed Gein start and where can people see that film?
So I'm from that area.
So my grandfather knew Ed Gein Wow, and he was worked for the DNR Washera County knew Ed Gein knew his best friend my grandfather's best friend was the arresting sheriff in 1957 of Ed Gein, so I grew up just you know 10 miles from Plainfield
hearing all these stories from day one, all these horror stories.
So it was always fascinated.
So I thought, I was drinking with a buddy in Wapaka and he said, wouldn't it be cool to do a documentary on Ed Gein?
I said, no, because I was drunk.
I said, wouldn't it be fun to do a musical, a comedic musical?
He looked at me like I had three heads and I knew I was onto something and that's when I created it.
And it's been called classic.
And the Netflix people stole some of our stuff from
our
films.
So yeah.
So I'm not supposed to talk about that because our music director might want to sue them.
Two
words,
pal.
Lawsuit.
I know it's one word.
Dan Davies, this has been fun.
We've got some more texts.
Kurt Kraus says, enjoying the show, I want to grab a coffee with both of you at the Door County Film Festival, if not before.
Door County Film Festival, by the way, February 13th.
15th in beautiful Door County.
Kurt is very active in that.
I will be there giving a speech on night one, or night two actually, maybe night one, I don't know.
It's gonna be a lot of fun, folks.
So if you haven't been to a film festival, check it out, and especially the Door County Film Festival.
Daniel Wheeler, Danny Wheeler says Nollywood, and J.B.
Thompson says Daniel needs to leave, is showing at the Door County Film Festival.
So no shortage of great films.
Dan Davies, thank you as always, pal.
Thank you.
Thank you, Pete.
Thank you, Conrad.
It is always a pleasure.
Pete, you're a Northeast Wisconsin gem, and I absolutely love
you.
So
thank you for everything.
You don't have to sweet talk me.
You've already been on the show.
He's going to slap me in the face and his way out.
All right, we're coming right back, folks.
Thomas Campbell will be here to talk about UWGB and their theater program, and he is also a very successful playwright.
We will talk to him about his work that is coming up next on Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.
I love the old routine.
Make it nice.
Play it clean.
Cheers, man.
Conrad playing his favorite musical artist.
We haven't heard from her.
Did I tell you not to play her for a while?
Is that why she went away?
No, I think you just, you said something about it, so I got, you know, self-conscious.
Well, that was enough time went by it was
nice to hear Carol King
again All right, so folks you still have time to get in on the fun our question of the night is if you had to share a name With a cartoon character like actor Linus Roach does although Dan Davies just told me that could be Related to Catholicism somehow Saint Linus or Pope Linus or something like that.
I
yeah, I think that's more in my limited simple brain.
I assumed he was named
after a lioness from Charlie Brown.
But let us know, we've had some great answers.
I said bugs, half of bugs Bunny, because I like gangsters named bugs, bugs Schwabba, I think that could go.
Conrad said Casper, but with a K. And let us know what you think, 855-752-4842-855-75 Civic.
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Right now,
It is my pleasure to welcome our next guest.
He is the chair of the theater and dance at the University of Wisconsin Green Bay and also an accomplished playwright.
And he joins us here in studio tonight, Mr. Thomas Campbell.
Hi, Thomas.
Hi, Pete.
Thanks for having me.
My pleasure, dude.
Did you go by Thomas or Tom?
Tom, please.
OK.
Yeah.
Because I thought normally I would think that.
Someone goes by Tom, but, you know, you're a playwright, you're very distinguished, you've got all these crazy degrees in your field, and Thomas sounds a little more distinguished.
It does sound distinguished, but I'm also incredibly awkward and insecure.
I gotta humanize myself and break it down to Tom.
Uh, that's great.
I love it.
Do you have a, uh, if you had to share a name with a cartoon character, can you think of one that-
Yeah, you know, you just mentioned that and, um, I, I, you know, I've always, I've always thought Shaggy was kind of a cool name.
Oh, yes.
That's our first Shaggy.
We got Velma
and,
uh, what was
the other one, the other girl?
Uh,
Daphne.
Daphne.
Yeah.
Velma was the, uh, one of the glasses.
Yeah, she couldn't see
without them.
She couldn't see without them.
All right, that's great.
Before we jump in to some of your upcoming work and you got a lot going on, tell us a little bit about you and your background and how you ended up here in Green
Bay.
Oh gosh, how I ended up here in Green Bay.
Well, I started doing theater when I was young.
I think I was in my first show when I was like six.
It
was
like a community show of Peter Pan and I was a lost boy.
really started to get into it in high school like I think a lot of kids do and I was lucky enough to go to a high school that had a really advanced theater program.
It was right on the cusp of being like a performing arts high school.
It was a really strong high school theater program.
and started off in performance and choir and show choirs and musicals and doing all that.
And then my senior year of high school, I started to turn my attention to writing and the theater teacher there at the time encouraged me to pursue that and eventually went to the University of Wyoming, got my Bachelor of Fine Arts in playwriting and directing.
And this is from where?
Where did you grow up?
I grew up in Denver.
Oh,
definitely.
Yeah.
So I went from Denver up to Laramie, Wyoming, got my degree there, and eventually went on to my master's program at Southern Illinois University in Carbondale.
Wow.
And then I went back to Denver for a couple years and tried to do the professional playwriting thing.
And I started teaching in grad school.
Okay.
And I really loved it.
And so I wanted to go back to teach at the university level.
And so eventually I went back to...
Carbondale got my PhD.
I got it in dramaturgical studies, performance studies with an emphasis in dramaturgy.
And that got me a job at UW-Shabuigan.
And I was the director of the theater program there.
And then in 2018, the UW colleges merged with the regional comprehensives.
And that linked me up to Green Bay.
And so it's just been sort of this sort of...
jump from one thing to the next to the next to the next and now I'm in Green Bay.
So how long
have you lived in Wisconsin?
Wisconsin 2013.
So you're one of us now.
13
years-ish.
You know, I feel like I'm getting there.
I'm always going to be Colorado.
It's in my heart, it's in my blood.
Colorado is a great place to be from.
I will say you just
I got a pain in my stomach when you said University of Wyoming.
I was a stand-up comic in the 90s.
These
two were all over and I went to Denver.
There's a club I worked called Whitsend.
The guy named John Cooney.
He was great and the club was great.
And then they tacked a college gig on and I went and did a college gig at
the
University of Wyoming in the gymnasium.
It's not a stage.
They had a
spotlight and they had a podium and the mic was attached.
I couldn't take the mic and walk around.
I
literally
did 45 minutes of material.
not being able to see anybody because the gym was dark and the spotlight, it was maybe one of the worst gigs I've ever had.
Hey Matt, atmosphere matters.
I'm not wholly irresponsible, I'm just saying.
No, you know, atmosphere matters.
I mean, that's the, you know, like, gosh, that space is, as a performer, like the space you are.
Engaging in is so critical to what it is that you're doing.
Lighting the space,
all of it.
Do you
have a good space?
We're going to break for the news in about a minute.
We come back, we'll tell you about a great play that's going to happen at UWGB.
It's coming up.
But how is the space there in terms of atmosphere?
We have great spaces.
So we're lucky to be doing this one in the Gene Weidner space, which is our smaller flexible space.
It's actually in the Weidner.
Nice.
Which is, it's a fantastic facility.
Yeah.
That's excellent.
All right.
My guest is Thomas Campbell.
He is a playwright and the chair of theater and dance at the University of Wisconsin Green Bay, a great school right here in our own backyard.
I heard it was like the fastest growing school.
all the UW schools?
Is this how I write?
I believe we are the only UW school to have seen enrollment increases for 10
years.
Wow, that's incredible.
And you can take some of the credit.
All right, we are going to come back after the news and talk with Thomas Samour about writing and really cool stuff happening at UWGB.
Kurt Krauss on the stream says,
2013 is one of us.
All right, so that's from an efficient, he's even more Wisconsin than me.
And if you're accepted by Kurt, you're accepted by everybody and Conrad.
We're coming right back.
This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Welcome back.
I'm Pete Schwab, and this is Nightlight.
Great to have you with me.
Janet from Madison, folks, in response to our question says, well, I'm already honored to share a name of a cartoon character, Interplanet Janet, from Schoolhouse Rock.
That's a great show, by the way, Thomas.
And Conrad, sorry.
If you had to pick it, it would be that 70s rocker, Josie, Josie and the Pussycats.
That's a great one too.
John Murray Madison says, OK, guys, just lost a bet to my better half.
I felt positive that no one would pick Shaggy.
Bravo, my good
sir.
Thank you, Thomas Campbell.
John says, personally, I'm keen to captain.
No army bids attached, just captain.
OK.
I'm not going to argue with John Murray.
And then he expands and says caveman underpants America crunch lots of captains and a lot of military royalty out there and John says no kits Good God.
I don't know what that means John John will explain it.
He never leaves us hanging.
All right
Back to the show here, folks.
My guest is Thomas Campbell.
He is the chair of Theater and Dance at the University of Wisconsin Green Bay and an accomplished playwright as well.
He comes to us from Colorado by way of Wyoming, by way of Southern Illinois, and he joins us here tonight in the studio, a proud Wisconsinite since 2013.
He is definitely one of us now.
All right, so you got a big show coming up, Thomas.
Tell
us what's, tell us about Doctor, I don't want to get it wrong, Dr. Bellboy and the Energy Vampire.
Dr. Bellboy and the Energy Vampire.
Yeah, it's a new musical that I wrote the book and the lyrics on and the composer is Ben Benjamin Olnicek, who is a...
He has his own music studios, a local musician, and has been our vocal music director on the past couple of musicals that we've done.
He's just a great guy, really accomplished musical theorist and his knowledge of musical theater is just vast.
So we've been working on it for about a year.
in its infancy.
And so what we're doing over at the university is a workshop production.
And so we have sort of our initial draft of the play in the script and the initial draft of the musical score and the beginnings of the orchestration.
And we cast it and we're working through some of the nuances and ironing out some of our mistakes, both with the script and with the
with the music and yeah so it gives us an opportunity to show our students the process of developing a new musical and all of the heavy lifting that that goes with that.
So when you do that you call it a workshop will it be
performed school wide?
Will
everybody be able to see it?
So the performance dates are February 20th and 21st, and it is open to the public.
It's free.
It's in our Gene Weiner theater, so their seating is limited.
But one of the critical things for Ben and I in this process is to get audience feedback.
You know and so we're gonna be holding some talk backs after each of the performances to see what works What resonated with audience what what needs some tweaking?
You know, of course, we're gonna be probably watching the audience more than we are watching the performance at that point in time Right, you know, we'll be able to see where they where they connect where they laugh where they disconnect all of that all of that good stuff
So it's like a focus group kind of
a little bit.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's our first opportunity to actually get this thing that we've been living with for a year
of some other people and you know theater is a collaborative art.
It needs audiences to really thrive and to resonate and in order to do that we need to see in this experimentation phase what's working.
So what happens then let's say it goes swimmingly and things are you're thrilled what do you do then?
We go back to the drawing board to be honest yeah we go back we're already talking about we're in the process where we don't want to make
too many changes because we don't want to create a domino effect right now.
And so we're sort of marking things in the script that once the workshop production is over, what is the next phase?
Where are the more substantive changes that we need to make?
Maybe we eliminate an entire song or a scene needs to be completely rewritten.
How is that going to affect the...
the composition of the score or the lyrical changes that might need to be shifted.
And so we're already looking at what comes next after this component is finished.
So when I say we go back to the drawing board, we go back and we really do a deep dive in what works.
Not just tweaking, but like really tweaking.
Yeah, it's really going back and it's going to be a heavy revision.
Nice.
Yeah.
So tell us about the story.
Dr. Bellboy and
the
Energy Vampire.
Love the
title.
It conjures up what it might be about to me, but
good.
Tell us.
Good.
Yeah.
No, I think a title should be evocative.
And so our story is about a university professor who abandons his previous life and he goes to New York City and becomes a Bell attendant at a hotel.
kind of throws his hands up at the university world and just wants something mundane.
He wants to be left alone.
He's dealing with some trauma and some loss and he just kind of disconnects from society, his life, and just wants something to just keep his head down and go through it.
But the hotel that he...
is working at is actually haunted.
And so he has some some ghostly compatriots from Harpal Marks, Dorothy Parker and George S. Kaufman.
Wow.
And so they have sort of their like shenanigans and then they realize one of the thing is this malevolent energy vampire has infested the hotel.
And so they have to battle this fantastical energy vampire.
So what is it about hotels and theaters that ghosts just feel at home there apparently?
You know, I had a
haunted theater.
Yeah, so I was doing, I had sort of this idea of sort of Dr. Bell Boy, rolling around in my head for a while and I didn't really know what to do with it.
And then I was reading an article about...
the Algonquin Hotel in New York City, which was home of the Algonquin Round Table.
Right, and famously haunted, right?
Yeah.
Famously haunted, considered one of the, one of the famous, one of the most haunted hotels in New York City.
And saw that some of the spiritual sightings are Dorothy Parker and Heartbone Marx and George S. Kaufman.
And I was kind of like, that is a trio.
You know, that is a heck of a trio.
And so what if our Dr. Bellboy was in this hotel?
you know what what sort of what what kind of shenanigans would they get into what would that look like and then I was developing the story and I kind of it kind of hit me one day I said
Oh, shoot, I think this is a musical and I've never done a musical before.
I was going to ask you about that
because I didn't see that.
This is my first musical.
I've done all kinds of different genres and styles of different plays.
So you wrote the play.
This is not a
licensed.
OK.
Yeah, I wrote the play and conceptualized the story, wrote the lyrics and the play component.
And Ben is composing and doing the music.
That's outstanding.
Dr. Bellboy and the Energy Vampire written by my guest Thomas Campbell can be seen February 20th and 21st for free at the, you called it the Widener extension?
It's the Gene Widener Theater in the Widener
on the UWGB campus.
Okay, that's exciting.
So who are your, you know, first, I want to ask you about this because I was reading about you and it said your research.
as a playwright, focuses on depictions, portrayals of alcohol abuse, dependency on the American stage, and how plays can subvert stigmas and stereotypes associated with alcoholism.
This is a two-part question.
What is it that you or who you're writing influences?
Did you grow up reading these guys like...
Eugene O'Neill who
used
alcohol or Hemingway or Dylan Thomas.
Yeah, so the first time where I was really impacted by a play was reading Tennessee Williams' Glass Menagerie.
And I think the narrative style of that, the mix of...
narrative reflection with live-action scenes just really captivated me and I was a senior in high school and so I did a report on Tennessee Williams and you know his battles with addiction were pretty prevalent throughout his life and as I went through my schooling you know it's sort of this pattern where playwrights
writers, artists, and addiction.
It's pretty prevalent.
And whether that is by choice or not, I can't think of anybody who chooses to live a life of addiction.
Unless they're
trying to pose in a way.
I do think that there's something romantic about this idea of being a tortured artist.
And I know in my youth, I definitely sort of reveled in that.
hearty hard play hard right hard mentality.
And as I got into my PhD program, I started to realize that theater theater can do more with that.
It's not just about, you know,
depictions of the drunkard as comedic relief.
It's not just about, you know, the violent alcoholic.
There's, you know, substance abuse is a serious issue.
It's a detrimental medical condition that affects everybody.
And I don't think anybody, I think anybody that you talk to can point to at least one or two people that they know that has been
either suffering or has been impacted by AOD issues.
So it's pretty prevalent and I know that theater can be cathartic and it can talk about those issues in ways that allow people the cathartic experience to purge it and it becomes that subversive act of therapy in a certain
way.
Do you have a favorite playwright or an influence, someone you looked up to or wanted to emulate?
Oh, I mean, when I was younger, it was definitely those modernists.
It was the Tennessee Williams, the Eugene O'Neill's.
As I got older, I really started to fall in love with the more avant-garde, edgier ones.
For a while, it was David Mamet, and then I just started to discover like Paula Vogel.
and, you know, Susan Laurie Parks and these language-based playwrights that were just being so creative and so artistic with their use of language and sort of like kicking down the door of expectations and creating things that were really artistically captivating.
It's interesting that you mentioned David Mam.
I have a funny David Mam.
I have his old car.
Oh,
really?
It
was a Toyota Land Cruiser that we bought in LA from his nanny was getting rid of it.
I was like,
it was
a great deal.
And I was like, it's David Mamet.
This is going to rub off on me as a writer.
It didn't.
And now we're trying to unload it.
It's kind of getting old.
Anyway, he is a guy who also has written for the big screen as well.
I think done his own adaptations, if I'm not mistaken.
Do you have any aspirations of that?
Do you hope to write movies?
Are you firmly entrenched in plays?
I really feel secure in my identity as a playwright.
sort of dip my toe in screenwriting and it doesn't It doesn't it doesn't intrigue me the way that playwriting I think playwriting the liveness the working with other people to actually be in a physical space and see it actualized and the fact that it's different from night to night there's just something really Vibrant and exciting about that that form
is there are there like you have your benchmarks and screenwriting I get that the first
first plot point by page 25
or so,
and then third action start 80, 90, whatever.
Do you have those same benchmarks in playwriting or is it more
freeform?
I think there's probably a little bit more flexibility.
I mean, there's definitely formulas to playwriting structures, but I think, especially with musicals, they've become a little bit more formulaic.
But theater is a little bit more artistic.
You get to play with form.
and formula in different ways.
And
the audiences seem like they're more open
to it.
They're not
like movies, you know what they expect.
Whereas a play,
you can
find something really cool that's not as formulaic.
All right, Thomas Campbell is my guest.
We are going to do a quick break and then we'll be back to wrap things up and enjoy a few more minutes with our guest, Thomas Campbell from UWGB.
He is the chair of the theater and dance and
Is it the department?
Am I saying the right chair of theater
and dance?
It's a program, yeah.
The program is
theater and dance.
And he's a playwright, so we're jamming.
We're coming right back.
This is Pete Schwabba in Nightlight on the Civic Media, Radio Network.
Hey, tomorrow night on Nightlight Folks, from Sturgeon Spirits, our pal Carl Loewenstein will be here.
Producer, director of A Road at Night, which premieres next week in Madison, John Roach will be here.
That is a fantastic film about Howard Moore, the former UW basketballer and coach.
Coming up on Wednesday from Wisconsin Foodie, Arthur Ersink will be here, my pal Steve Segrin, and Sherry Shepard will be here Wednesday night.
That'll be fun.
Hudson Hensley, I think from Song Song Blue, we're solidifying that for Thursday.
We're going to talk ice cream with Cedar Crest, all kinds of fun stuff going on here at Nightlight this week.
But right now we have a few more minutes with my current guest, Mr. Thomas Campbell.
He is the chair of the theater and dance department at UWGB and an accomplished playwright himself.
You've got, here's what you teach at UWGB, Thomas.
Playwriting, script analysis, dramaturgy, intro to theater, world theater and performance.
Of all those classes, what gets you out of bed the fastest in the morning, where you can't wait to start talking about
it?
Oh, gosh.
I mean, I'd be lying if I didn't say it was playwriting.
That really is the, of all the hats that I wear, you know, that's my identity marker.
But...
I really enjoy all the classes that I teach and I know that some days are better than others.
Sure.
You know, some days I have a really good script analysis class and some days I have a really good directing class and some days it's, you know, I swing and I miss on all the days sometimes.
So, you know, but I think as long as the students are engaged and they enjoy being in the rooms, then I know I'm making a difference.
That's a great answer.
What is the...
climate right now.
It seems like there's a shift in America for a lot of reasons, but like people, you know, the pandemic affected people going to the theater.
Netflix might buy Warner Brothers.
ideally or not ideally, but suspiciously might not put as many films in theaters.
So that landscape is changing a little.
I think there will always be a market for it.
Where is theater?
Where are we at with theater in America right now?
It's such a great art form and it's definitely got a place in cities like Chicago and New York and L.A., lesser in L.A.
but like Milwaukee.
But what's the climate like?
As a playwright, do you say theater is thriving in America?
It needs a comeback?
Or where are we
at?
I think from my perspective, I think we're at kind of a critical moment.
Theater programs at the higher education level are under threat right now.
They're being cut nationally, largely for financial reasons.
Theater programs are in general expensive and low enrolled and in the current higher education environment that is potentially detrimental to a lot of theater programs.
Theater programs being eliminated at the higher ed level.
Has a ripple effect,
you know,
we are upriver of the professional Industries right we are also the incentive for K through 12 people studying theater To go in major in theater and if you don't have that opportunity then students are going to stop doing it in the K through 12 so
It's potentially really hazardous.
I will say at the same time theater theater is innate to who we are As human beings, you know, we are innate storytellers.
We are innate communal gatherers and You combine community and community gathering with storytelling you get theater and so I don't think theater is ever gonna go away, but I think
People in positions of authority need to make a choice to invest in that
as
a discipline and they need to recognize it as a discipline that's worthy of deep study It's not just entertainment.
It's not just the show the fancy, you know musical that entertains us It's it's something deeper and it's something much more powerful
And people in positions of power and authority need to need to recognize that and they need to invest in it Knowing that it's worth it without a financial return.
I agree And I you know if you haven't if you're listening and you haven't really embraced theater or going to a live show whether it's a musical or a drama something original or a big show like Hamilton You got to go folks and you got to support live theater because there's nothing like it.
It is truly everything Thomas just said
Kurt Krause on the stream says, Thomas Campbell and P. Schwabba both have great hair going on.
Thomas, give my very best to Alan K. Oh, Alan.
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah, Kurt knows Alan.
That's
awesome.
Everybody knows Alan.
Everybody knows Alan.
He's been on the show.
He'll be back again.
He's a great guy.
All right, so we've got, oh, I have to ask you, I ask almost everybody who's on the show, are you binge watching anything?
I know theater's your first love, but you know, when you put the typewriter away at night, what are you binging?
So I
have a six.
and a nine-year-old, so a lot of what I watch is geared around them on a good day.
What's
wrong with
that?
Yeah, you know, on a good day, we watch a lot of Bluey, which
I think is
a great,
great
show.
Personally, if I can carve it a little bit of time, I'm trying to finish watching Stranger Things.
Okay.
You know, so that was, I have Bluey on one hand and Stranger Things
on the other.
Two very different shows.
Very.
We had...
Stuart Waddles who does news here in Southeast Wisconsin Pacific media and he came out on the show one night and he was talking incessantly about bluey Oh, he sent me a couple links and I made the joke Is it too weird that I want to divorce my wife and find another wife so I can have kids again so I can watch bluey with them It's that might be extreme.
I have never
show
cried so consistently at
a
cartoon, a kid's cartoon.
It is-
It's that
good.
It's really powerful.
Hey, best of luck with Dr. Bellboy.
Thank you.
And is it vampire energy?
I've already- Dr. Bellboy and the energy
vampire.
Energy vampire, February 20th and 21st, for free on the UWGB campus at the Weidner Center.
Weidner Center.
Gene Weidner
Theater.
Gene Weidner Theater.
That's it.
All right.
Thomas Campbell, thank you so much.
Thank you, Pete.
You're welcome.
Thank you to Dan Davies and Ty Williams.
Thank you for all your calls and texts, folks.
Just phenomenal fun tonight.
And on behalf of a lovable producer, Conrad, I'm Pete Schwabba saying good night, Wisconsin.