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Popcorn Picks and Frozen Falls (Hour 2)
Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Thu Jan 29, 2026
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live, statewide from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.
This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba, your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.
And now, a guy who's had a paper route for 25 years but never collected, Pete Schwabba.
Hey!
Welcome to Nightlight.
That's always nice when you start off on a strong note like that and have to clear your throat.
The second you start talking.
Hey, welcome to Nightlight, folks.
I am Pete Schwabba.
It is great to have you here on this Thursday night, the Christmas Eve of weeknights.
Thursday night can only mean one thing, and that is that we are making our popcorn pick of the week tonight.
And it is going to be a blast.
I have no doubt we will get an excellent movie pick from our guest.
Adam Hess I will tell you all about Adam in just a few moments as well as my other guests for tonight But first I think I would be remiss if I did not introduce Conrad Krieger.
Hey buddy.
How are you?
I'm doing good.
I'm doing well Yeah, it was a good day.
It was a good day
You've already been talking for four seconds and you haven't mentioned the weather is everything okay?
Actually, you know, I walked outside today and I was like Wow, it's warm.
Yeah
Well, I mean, you know, I don't know if I'd go that far, but yeah.
It was
because of the sun, but better.
Yeah, you know, right
now it's it's nine degrees and the sun's going down, but it was a little warmer before.
Yeah, there's hope.
We'll get there.
Eventually.
Yeah.
We have a really fun show tonight, folks.
I'm very excited about tonight's show.
We're going to be talking about aliens.
We're going to make the popcorn pick of the week, and we're going to get a quick movie review in just a few minutes after the news, which is coming along in just about 23 minutes.
We're going to talk about 28 days later, a bone temple.
Very excited.
I have not seen this movie yet, so we'll discuss that a little bit.
Lots going on around the state.
You know what I decided we're going to do Conrad?
The Olympics are right around the corner.
They start February 6th.
We are going to feature a Wisconsin-based Olympic athlete here on Nightlight every night leading up to the Olympics next Friday.
Oh, that's great.
We're going to start it tonight and I'm very excited.
How do you feel about that, Conrad?
I mean, that's fantastic.
I shared that.
I waited purposefully to share that with you on the air so you could not hide your relation.
I think that sounds really cool.
You know, yeah,
it does sound cool.
Yeah, it's going to be fun.
So we'll talk about that.
We've got, you know, that's going on.
There's so much going on.
Bill Belichick is not in the Hall of Fame.
What do you make of that Conrad?
I think this is funny is that, you know, we did that pre-record with Seth Wickersham.
Yeah.
And I told you like moments later, I was like, yeah, Seth just broke some pretty big news.
It was like two minutes after we were done.
I know he works for ESPN, but we've killed him to break the news on Nightline during a pre-record.
Yeah, no.
I mean, those championships, everything he did, I think that well deserved.
He's well deserved of being in the Hall of
Fame.
If you're just going based on achievements and accomplishments, absolutely.
He's a cheater, but he served his time for that supposedly.
So if he didn't do enough for that, maybe you should have penalized him more, but you can't argue that his accomplishments, unless you're putting it all on Brady, which maybe you could because Brady won a Super Bowl without Belichick and it didn't happen the other way around.
I'm kidding.
Belichick's a great coach.
I don't, he seems like kind of a jerk, but that's never been a criteria for voting.
Really strange.
And what's even stranger is some of the people, most of the people assume it's because of deflate gate.
But there were a couple reporters I was reading an article today on Yahoo Entertainment and they said if they just wanted to see other people get in first now Robert Kraft was eligible at Roger Craig great player But you know nobody shows up To a sporting event to watch an owner own they watch the game and I I Think that's kind of bull
And I like reporters.
I like how they tell truth, but that's ridiculous.
You'd rather see other people get in.
I just don't buy that on any level.
Conrad, you're the sports guy.
Well,
yeah, I mean, I do think he is all of Amber like just based off his his achievements alone.
You know, maybe he's not the best guy.
But I mean, I think this is what we can kind of compare it to is
Mike Tomlin's and all is a Hall of Famer.
Do you agree
with
that?
I do.
Yeah.
And he's he's only had one Super Bowl, but he's also had a lot of winning records.
He's never had a losing record.
That's impressive.
But that can almost work against you.
You're locked in mediocrity.
Yeah.
And you never get the high draft picks.
I mean, yeah, it's that's something though.
So if we're comparing coaches, I mean, I'm just saying Mike Tomlin, he's he's he's going to be all famous.
How was how's Bella check now?
It just doesn't make sense to me.
Mike Tomlin does seem like a cooler guy.
Well, yeah, definitely.
He definitely seems way cooler.
Let's stick with sports.
This is exciting.
I saw this today.
Pulaski athlete, Deirdre Irwin, she's a biathlete competing for the gold in the Olympics that start next Friday night, February 6.
This is kind of cool.
Stormy Krummer hats are making a team Irwin hat.
I think that's fun.
It's like all her family can wear them and they're gonna like celebrate her just being in the Olympics.
She Conrad is the best biathlete.
I want to make very clear here.
I'm not saying biathlete like a sexual preference.
She is a biathlete.
Meaning she's good at multiple
sports.
You don't know quite how to react to what I'm saying.
Yeah, she's great at the biathlon.
You know, she's a badass and she's like one of the best in the world.
Obviously she's in the Olympics, but she went to Michigan Tech.
Local girl from here in Northeast Wisconsin grew up in Pulaski.
I think that's so cool.
And she'll have the hats to show her support thanks to Stormy Cromer.
Very cool thing.
Yeah, I saw that video.
Um, definitely go check it out.
But yeah, there's some cool hats.
I think, uh, I think she'll have a easy time finding who's supporting her.
Absolutely.
I saw the story on WSAW the saw.
I think they call it in wasa very cool story.
Um, so.
And let's do this tonight.
It's tomorrow night.
Let's do a deep dive.
We're going to start doing a deep dive on Olympic athletes from Wisconsin that should keep us very busy until next Friday.
But let's celebrate our home bred athletes here.
They're going to represent us at the Winter Olympics, which on some level, I will say, I feel like I don't watch the Olympics as much as I should, but I love the winter sports.
I find them to be like the bobsled, the luge, the biathlon.
downhill skiing, all that stuff.
Like it's it's sort of, I think I feel like there's more extreme sports in the Olympics in the winter.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you know, there is a there's a Kiewaskam athlete that made the Olympics.
Is that right?
Yeah.
How come I'm just hearing about this now?
I mean, we can do a deep dive later, you know, this, you know, this or next, but.
Let's discuss tomorrow.
We'll do an athlete tomorrow here in the first segment, folks.
So tune in tomorrow night and find out who our Wisconsin athlete of the night will be competing in this year's Winter Olympics that starts February 6th.
Tonight, we're not doing a deep dive, but I think this is really cool that Deirdre Irwin is from right here in the Green Bay area.
She's also in the National Guard.
So how do you like that?
She's serving her country, both through the military and in the Olympics.
She's a bio the biathlon is shooting a gun and skiing correct
Yeah, yes
Yes, yeah, she that kind of scares me.
I'm a little scared of her I'm just saying I think she could probably take me so okay We've got a really fun show tonight folks.
I'm gonna tell you who our guests are but first let's get to our night like question of the night
Let's talk about the question.
Okay question
We are having
fun with this one, folks.
You know those little sweethearts?
People hand them out prior to Valentine's Day, typically.
We got them in school.
Conrad, I'm sure you got them in school as well.
Never did, never
did.
Really?
Not those.
They must have been a crackdown.
We used to get those all the time.
I care I care I don't know if they do this anymore, but like for Valentine's Day when I was in like middle school We had to like hand them out to every single person in the class So no one felt like they couldn't you know no one felt left out
Right,
so I don't know if they do that anymore, but that was how I grew up
You give one to your best friend that says be mine They're using more practical messages now they're kind of updating the whole idea It's not just romance be mine my sweetie kiss me all that kind of stuff now.
It's more Practical messages on these sweethearts like split rent That's great your login, you know
So our question tonight is what words would you like to put on a sweetheart?
Let us know at 855-752-4842, 855-75 Civic.
You can also text us on the app.
Very easy way to reach the show, the Civic Media app, or if you're watching the radio on the stream on Facebook, YouTube or X, drop us a stream comment and I will read it on the radio.
And while you're there, give us a like or a follow if you don't mind.
But let us know what words you would like to put on a sweetheart.
Have you thought about this, Conn?
Yeah, quick
trip.
I just, I don't even know what to say to that.
What are you saying by quick trip?
That's it.
Just quick trip.
But what message are you trying to get?
Just like you're so blind.
No,
that means that means a lot of stuff.
You know, we can go get gas together, quick trip.
I'll fill
it
for you.
Or, you know, we'll go and get two chicken sammies.
Let's travel together, but keep it fast.
Share a chocolate
milk.
Share a nice warm coffee.
There we go.
So
just quick trip, you
know,
you're going to take a date to quick trip for chocolate milk.
That's a great idea.
Come on.
12.
I say dance off.
I'm just trying to be like, I love the login shares in that one and all these other ones we've seen.
They're just great.
And I love when a company does something like this because it gives us a chance to put it out there to people and see what they would do.
So we got some great social media responses.
We'll read some of your texts off the text line too at 855-752-4842.
Or the app or the stream so be part of the show folks.
We love when you guys participate.
It is always so much more fun I'm anxious to read some of these texts tonight and you can keep it relatively clean But if you want to go there who am I to stop you?
Fun show tonight, too.
We've got my son Joe Schwab will be here at 535 he has seen he's two movies ahead of me Conrad he like you has seen Marty Supreme
And he's also seen 28 days later, Bone Temple with Ray Fiennes.
I am so excited to see this movie.
I know Matt Miller was on last night.
He kind of said it wasn't quite as good as the last one, but it's still got good reviews.
I don't think Matt said he still liked it.
I'm just jazzed.
I cannot wait to see it.
I will probably see it this weekend.
So I've got to see Marty Supreme and 28 days later.
Yeah, I'd say Marty Supreme.
Definitely give that a watch.
Like
I've been saying
but last night I did rent a movie
Really?
Yes.
I rented anaconda.
Oh Dude, all right.
We're gonna hear about that.
Let's do let's do that after the break My other guests tonight folks are Adam Hess Civic media is owned from WRCO in Richland Center is gonna be here tonight to make the popcorn pick of the week So when Adam leaves us
sometime around seven o'clock or shortly thereafter, you will have a movie pick to watch this weekend.
Possibly one you've never seen.
It might possibly be the greatest movie you've ever seen.
We'll see what Adam shares with us.
But that is always a fun segment.
We'll find out what kind of movie snacks he likes.
And then Adam is also, Conrad, I don't know if I told you this, we're gonna talk about Alice in Dairyland, a very cool contest we have here in Wisconsin.
All right, we're coming right back.
It's Night Light with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Welcome back.
I'm Pete Chihuahua.
This is Nightlight, a Thursday night edition.
It is the Christmas Eve of the weeknights, folks.
Let's have some fun.
Friday is almost here and it is a lovely evening, the Thursday evening.
A little pressure.
Maybe it's casual Friday.
Tomorrow at work.
If you've got big plans this weekend and we are inching ever closer.
Happy Thursday and great to have you here.
Our question of the night is what are words you would put on a sweetheart?
They have sort of changed their marketing plan a little bit and they don't Just go with romantic messages anymore.
They have messages like split rent shared password all kinds of
modern day text message type things we send.
So let us know what you would do.
855-752-4842-855-756.
And we will be off to the races.
New sports and weather is coming up in just about seven minutes.
We've already discussed an Olympic athlete, Deirdre Irwin, who is from Pulaski.
It was great reading about Deirdre before.
She's going to have her own hat line at the Olympics.
Her family will be able to watch her and she'll be able to see them thanks to these cool hats.
So we I kind of got cut off con sometimes when I do the show from home I lose track of time because I don't have that big huge clock
Yeah in front of me.
Yeah,
but um joining me tonight in the third hour folks will be Becky Ferrara she is an author and Her book is first contact and it's a great book.
I received it in the mail about a week ago I've been working my way through it.
She covers Roswell
how aliens first came to be or at least our knowledge of them and our curiosity thousands of years ago.
It's a really good book and she was a really fun interview we recorded with her a little while ago so very excited to play that for you guys later.
It's a really fun book and we had a great discussion about aliens so I think we're all kind of interested in aliens even if we're not maybe obsessed but she is an authority on it and she's a
a science report.
So she's all about facts and evidence and all that kind of stuff.
So Becky will be here at 735 to help us close things down tonight.
As I mentioned, Joe Schwab will be here after the news talking about the film 28 years later, Bone Temple.
And Adam has from WRCO in Richland Center here at Civic Media will make the popcorn pick of the week at 635.
So that's your show right there Conrad.
That's a show.
What else we got here?
So where do you stand on aliens Conrad?
You know, um, I mean, I don't know.
I don't know.
Like there's some things that I've seen that I'm like, God, that's weird, but there's some other things that like just looks like a helicopter that you could see a light from, you know,
it's a little vague.
I mean, the UFO means unidentified flying object doesn't necessarily mean alien spacecraft.
We just don't know what the hell it is.
So, um, but I'm excited.
I'm, I'm.
I love a good alien TV or movie.
Yeah.
TV show or movie.
And we talked about that with Becky.
So that was fun.
And I, you know, I love the idea that something is inexplicable or it's hard to describe what it was.
I find that I'm very curious about stuff like that.
Yeah.
So I keep just like with a Sasquatch or a Squatch as people.
Yeah.
They're enthusiasts.
They call it that.
I keep an open mind, but we'll talk to Becky and it will be fun.
So what are your thoughts on aliens, folks?
As always, the phone lines are open and you can shoot us a text about anything you're thinking tonight or anything we're talking about.
That's always fun as well.
Let me ask you something, Conrad.
If I asked you what was the most streamed show in 2025, what would you say?
or what would you venture to guess?
I would say Stranger Things.
That is exactly what I thought.
Yeah.
And I read this article, I think it was from Gawker, I think it was called.
Great site.
It's not, it's not, it's not Stranger Things.
Huh.
I'll give you a hint.
Okay.
Stuart J. Waddles.
Oh, so it's like, it's a kid show.
Yeah.
A kid show, he came on this radio program about six months ago and just was so passionate about it.
Yes.
That is the most streamed show in 2025.
I think that's so cool.
I sent him an email and I think he has been blocked.
I was excited to share that with him because it's such a great show.
I found this out today.
For those of you with daughters,
and you know things have changed a little bit like times have changed it's not always so traditional where the parents of the daughter pay for the wedding people do different things now but typically it's always been that way that the parents of the daughter pay for the wedding if you had to guess Conrad how much do you think the average wedding costs nowadays 30,000 very close 36 grand
okay
that is insane that's a lot of money
$36,000 I mean for one day, but it's got to be a special
taking me weeks to lose that much at the casino Takes me one day.
What do you mean?
36 you put it all on red 36 geez that's crazy if you've got a daughter getting married folks I'd love to hear what you paid if you're willing to share that because I have a daughter She's nowhere near getting married, but that is in the back of my mind like I got to start a fund right now and I mean I
you know, not whatever.
I won't go do it, but that's a lot of money.
It is.
So it is.
All right, we've got new sports and weather coming up in just about a minute, folks.
And then we're going to do a quick movie review at 535 after the news.
Joe Schwabble will be here.
He stops by periodically to review movies that I haven't seen yet and that we have not talked about on the phone yet as father and son.
This is great.
Matt Harper.
Our favorite Green Bay rock rap artist says what he would put on sweetheart is meet at Lenny's tap.
There we go.
That's
awesome.
And then he clarified my sweetheart line.
I love it.
Dave on the stream says a poop emoji.
That's real mature, Dave.
All right.
Hey, we're coming right back, folks.
New sports and weather is next.
And we're going to talk about 28 years later, Bone Temple.
Great movie.
and popcorn pick of the week.
Some alien talking hour three.
You're here on a great night.
We are rocking it.
This is Nightlight with Pete Chihuahua on the Civic Media Radio
Network.
Welcome back.
I'm Pete Schwab.
This is Nightlight.
It is great to have you here, folks.
We are celebrating all the things in life that make us happy tonight.
Movies and TV and music and comedy.
Aliens.
We love the sports talk earlier.
All good stuff.
Dave on the stream outdid himself.
And this is my new current sweet heart message.
Six seven.
That
cracked me up.
That's great.
That's outstanding.
But you got to do the hand thing when you hand the, and much better, much more mature than poop, Dave.
So thank you for that.
Hey, there's a new movie out called 28 Years Bone Temple.
I have not seen it yet, but my son Joe has and Joe drops by here periodically to talk about the movie scene at my request and the movies typically that I have not seen yet.
So it is my pleasure to welcome in tonight lights.
After social media guru and filmmaker Joe Schwamba.
Hey, Joe.
How are you?
Hey, how you doing?
Good.
I like the background very very nice.
Oh, yeah.
Thanks.
Like you're like actually in a studio there or something.
Fantastic.
Do you have a if you were to put words on a sweetheart Joe, you know what those little sweethearts are?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Do you have something you would put on there just to keep it more contemporary?
Is this kind of for Valentine's Day?
Yes, it's for Valentine's Day.
I would say maybe temper your expectations.
Well, that's
a mouthful to get on a little sweet tart, but I
like it.
Maybe click here for the rest of the message, that type of thing, but
yeah, that's
great.
Temper your ex.
Yeah, low bar, maybe,
just summarize.
I don't expect much.
So this is great.
Thanks for being on the show tonight.
I still, I'm not embarrassed, but I'm kind of shocked that I have not seen 28 days later, I'm sorry, 28 days bone, 28 years bone temple.
It's weird because there's a new trilogy, but the first part of this trilogy was part of the last trilogy.
So
the titles mix up.
I don't know what they're doing, but it's kind of bizarre.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I liked the last one so much.
I assumed I would run out and see this one immediately.
I have not done that.
What did you think of the film?
I thought it was great.
I
thought it was really well made, well acted.
I thought Ray Fiennes did a fantastic job.
I love watching him in anything he's in.
He was my favorite part of this movie.
His whole, you know, because it's kind of split into different storylines and his storyline was definitely my favorite and I think what made the movie.
really cool stuff just about like Kind of the nature of humanity and that that's sort of what those movies explore like what separates us from animals or in this case the infected and I think that this one definitely carried on that Trend or those themes that the previous movies have kind of explored
Interesting.
The last film was called just 28 years later, and this is 28 years later, The Bone Temple.
Ray finds this in both of them.
All I've been hearing is how fantastic he is in this movie.
I mean, you're right, he's a great actor, but he is outstanding, and I'm very... Aside from him, and the movie reviewed very well, what were the best parts about the movie?
Also, I think he should be up for an Oscar for this movie.
Like I thought he was that good.
It'll never happen because it's you know 28 years later is sort of put under the umbrella of like zombie or horror or whatever but it's by itself a very good movie.
Like I wish it would be included in those categories because I thought this one was slightly like it wasn't as good as the first the 28 years later but it was still very good.
I don't know what people are saying if people are saying this one was better or
A little worse.
I don't know but I'm sorry.
What was the question?
No that
Your favorite elements of the film outside of Ray finds performance.
Yeah, I mean it had some Really it was just like some really cool sequences that were shot really cool Again, I would say my favorite parts of these movies are like just the themes they explore and I don't want to say too much without giving away parts of the movie should also say
there is an extremely big cliffhanger slash um big big spoiler at the end that I'm not gonna say anything really and it's it's pretty cool and you kind of are like oh my gosh you know
okay so you said you weren't sure how what other people were saying about the film Matt Miller Milwaukee film critic who's on this show a lot last night kind of said what you said he liked it he did not like it as as
much as he liked 28 years
later.
However, 92%, pardon me, 92% positive reviews on Rotten Tomatoes.
That's with 300 reviews, 88% on the popcorn meter, which is audiences.
So people liked the film and now I'm even more excited to see it.
And you mentioned the Oscars, Joe.
This came out in 2026, so it wouldn't be eligible until next year.
for Ray Fiennes anyway.
So that will be interesting.
Let me
ask you this.
Did they, the first one, or the one that came out last year, 28 years later, ended with a continuance or a hint at where the second one was going or where this one, the second
one with the new trilogy is
going.
Did they play that out?
Yeah.
Yeah, you get to meet those characters that, excuse me, that come in at the end.
Okay.
The skateboarders.
They're, yeah, parkour guys, whatever.
They're very good.
Two of the actors I know, I don't know either of their names, but one of the main guy was also in Sinners.
He played the bad guy in Sinners.
Oh, really?
And he's really good.
And then also, there's another actress that's been in a ton of stuff, but I don't remember what great commentary I'm providing right now.
The guy from The Thing and the one, like,
But no,
I know what you mean.
I think it's Chai Lewis Perry.
Maybe it's who you're talking about.
But anyway, all right.
So overall, would you agree with the critics 92% or the audience at 88%?
What do you give the film in the way of stars or percentages or whatever?
I'm trying to think what I ranked it because I ranked them both in my letterbox.
I would say, I think they're probably both four, like four out of five.
Okay, that's pretty good.
Yeah, I would say both, maybe the first one even a 4.5.
I would maybe be the first one a 4.5.
If people wanted to find your letter box where you talk about movies, how would they do that?
Where would they go?
I think I probably have like two followers on there.
I mostly just log movies so I can remember them.
But I think it's just Joe Schwabba.
I think that's just my name on there.
No, that's smart because I have film critics on the show and then I I'm like I'm trying to remember what I've seen and I can't remember.
Yeah, they'll leave it.
I'm like, oh my god, I saw the rip the other day or whatever it is, you know.
Right.
All right.
So that's great.
My guest is Joe Schwab.
He is a Wisconsin based actor, filmmaker, and he drops by here periodically to give us kind of thumbnail movie reviews.
And we were just talking about 28 years later, the Bone Temple, which he liked a lot, Joe.
I don't know, like, about you.
When I was your age, I was not that into the Oscars, but of the 10 films that have been nominated for Best Picture, I think you've seen more than me.
I've only seen four.
And have you been paying attention at all to that?
And I know you liked Marty Supreme a lot.
So
based on the films you've seen, what are your favorites if you have any?
Is there a way?
Can we go over the...
Or maybe I can pull up a list in front of me.
I've
got it right here.
So we've got the secret agent, Bagonia, Train Dreams, Frankenstein, F1, if you can believe that.
For nominated for Best Picture?
Best Picture.
That's a good, OK.
We can talk about F1 later.
Yeah.
Hamnet, I have not seen Hamnet.
I mentioned Bagonia.
Sinners.
With six I don't know if you're this it got 16 nominations Breaking a record of 14 held by Titanic all about Eve and La La Land 16 sentimental value the great Stalin scars guard the secret agent the Brazilian film which is supposed to be dynamite Marty Supreme and One battle after another so I've only seen four of them.
Okay,
I've seen five That's really hard there's
All those movies are really good.
I thought Bagonia would probably I'd put a little farther down than the other ones, but I still really like Bagonia I would say out of those my favorite So I saw Mari Supreme F1 Also, I love F1, but I would say that's probably not in the like it probably shouldn't be in the right But I love that movie.
I thought it was a great popcorn movie
Yeah.
I would say I probably do sinners or one battle after another.
It's really close between those two.
Probably dead even for me.
Marty Supreme not far behind either.
A
lot of people are saying that and I'll share this with you.
Rob Thomas from Madison, Matt Miller from Milwaukee both and I kind of agree with them almost want the award to split between best picture and best director so that both of them get something because I tend to I liked one battle after another a little bit more.
than Sinners, but 16 nominations and the look of that movie, the music
and
the acting and everything that's in it, I'm kind of almost pulling for that to win.
It's weird.
I think I am too.
And I feel like I'm in a similar situation where I think personally, similar where I was like, I really like the movie F1.
I really like the movie One Battle after another, but I would maybe say Sinners is the better movie.
But just personally, I might like One Battle better.
Yeah.
That's kind of where I'm at and I you know and neither one of them have ever won an Oscar Ryan Coogler or Paul Thomas Anderson Which that one especially is hard to believe I think he's been
around
longer than Ryan Coogler So that surprises me even more but another film I really liked was train dreams, which was a Netflix film and I really enjoyed that too.
So I Who knows what'll happen?
I still have to see you and Conrad have both seen Marty Supreme.
I still have not seen Marty
I know, so I've got, out of the films you've seen, Joe, before we let you go, best actor, what are you thinking, or actress?
Best actor.
I mean, you
got Michael B. Jordan in centers who played Smoke and Stack, two roles.
You got Leonardo DiCaprio.
Yep.
And you got your guy, Timothy Chalamet from Marty Supreme.
My guy?
Well, you know.
Because he's my age.
You just like the movie a lot and you were talking.
I do.
I really do
remember you saying maybe on this show a month ago or so how much you liked his performance.
He's
good.
Yeah, he's good.
I would probably say Leo or Michael B. Jordan.
I'd probably say Michael B. Jordan,
honestly.
Me too.
I
love
Leo, but I think it was Matt that said last night the Academy doesn't recognize funny Leo and he's very funny.
Yeah.
He's
not jokie but funny.
He's great.
His performance is excellent.
But I'm with you.
I think Michael B. Jordan.
It's such a hard light.
And then I thought Tiana Taylor was really good in supporting actress.
Yeah.
Oh, she's not.
Well, I guess she's more of a supporting character in that movie.
Yep.
I would say she's gave a great performance.
I don't know the name.
What's what's the name of the girl in one battle after another?
Yeah, I don't know.
I know who you're talking about, though,
the young.
Was she nominated or not?
She was
not.
And she was great.
They thought it was a snub.
But then other people said, well, she's so young.
It's not really
a snub.
She's
18% or something.
Yeah.
Joe, this is great.
Thank you, as always, for dropping by.
Love your reviews.
And it's amazing how much we agree on movies.
But we'll have to find one we disagree on.
That could be a fun conversation as well.
But this was that one.
All right, next time we'll do a deep dive into F1.
It's Joshua, ladies and gentlemen.
Follow him on Instagram, TikTok.
He puts really funny reels up and... Sorry, someone said Chase Infinity.
Oh, Chase Infinity.
There you go.
All right, perfect.
Thanks, Joe.
Have a great night.
Much appreciated.
Thanks.
All right, that's Joe Schwabba.
We are coming back after a very short break.
Melissa said Chase Infinity.
Thank you, Melissa, on the stream.
It also says she votes for sinners.
Conrad, we got to get your take when we come back.
Anaconda.
All right, we'll talk about that after the break.
It's Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media, our radio network.
What words would you put on a sweetheart, those little candy
Confections we used to hand out is kids in school.
They have changed their sort of business plan and they are putting more contemporary words on the little hearts like shared rent or shared login information.
If you are Matt Harper, meet me at Lenny's tap.
All kinds of fun stuff.
I said, what did you say, Con?
Quick trip.
Oh, that's right.
Quick trip.
It's a great answer.
It's an answer.
No, it's fine.
I said dance off.
So I stuck a little bit more with the theme.
You were sort of trying to promote your favorite fine dining establishment, which is
fine.
Yeah, I
mean, come on.
Nothing, nothing wrong with that.
All right.
So let us know what you would put on a sweetheart.
Adam Hess, our civic media colleague will be here.
Adam is.
uh, he is, uh, on the air in Richland center.
He's g to be here to make the pick of the week.
And then we're going to talk about Alice He did a piece on Alice and Adam explain what that is.
I remember reading about it a it's a really fun cont here in Wisconsin.
The
Alice in Dairyland, because we are the Dairy State.
So there you go.
So we'll talk to Adam at 6.35.
He'll make the popcorn pick of the week.
And then in hour three, some alien talk with Becky Ferrara.
She is the author of First Contact.
So, and it's a great book I've been reading.
Her PR people were nice enough to send me a copy and I'm really digging it.
So we'll talk to Becky and about the spooky stuff in hour number three.
Conrad saw a movie.
You finally saw Anaconda.
And I say, because we were talking, not that this is like one of the most highly coveted movies to see, but pardon me, I talked about this.
I couldn't wait to see this movie just because it looked like a fun popcorn, silly movie.
Yeah.
You know, I waited because I didn't feel like it would be, but it's like a theater movie, to be honest.
Yeah.
So I waited and it finally came out.
It was, I had to rent it.
It's not streaming yet, but I didn't mind, I guess.
Wait,
you can rent Anaconda now?
Yeah.
Boy, that did not take long.
It's not like the $20 rental fee.
It's more like the four or five bucks or whatever.
Yeah, it was like, no, it was $12 on Fandango.
Okay.
So yeah, I mean, I enjoyed it.
I thought it was funny.
I saw the original a while back.
So, you know, I thought it was hilarious.
So they kept calling back to the original one.
And it's my favorite.
My favorite, the favorite part of that whole movie is when Ice Cube did his appearance.
What does he do?
I know the thing like in the original that like eats John Voight, right?
Yeah.
And then spits him out.
Yeah.
Okay.
But I loved his cameo in this movie.
Because he just like start, he just starts shooting his gun and just walks.
But who's cameo?
John Voight?
No, Ice Cube.
Okay.
And I mean, Jennifer.
Lopez makes an appearance too for like three seconds, but you know, but now
I thought it was I thought it was
funny It's not a great movie, but I thought it was it was I enjoyed it
See, I don't think I would rent it at home or I wouldn't pay 12 bucks for it, but I would I would put it on when it was Yeah,
I Think that the movie had some great parts in it Pete are you still there?
Pete is having some technical issues.
Did
I just cut out or did you?
Yeah,
all right, you're back.
Okay,
that was it.
Where did I go?
God, where did I go?
You just froze.
You
froze for a second there.
You're good now.
Okay, but what's the last thing you heard from me other than SOS?
Yeah, you wouldn't pay $12 for it at home.
No, I wouldn't.
But I would watch it.
I will watch it because I'm curious, but that's just seemed to me like a really fun theater film.
You
didn't
see it?
I did not see it in the theater because I wanted to see it in the theater.
I thought you said, I thought you did see it.
So I feel bad that just ruined the cameo for you.
But no, you'll
enjoy
it.
You'll enjoy it.
Paul Rudd.
Absolutely hilarious in it.
So is Jack Black.
uh news sports and weather coming up in just about a couple minutes here folks and on the other side of the news we will read your text i'm going to tell you about a really cool new vodka and we're going to tell you about some super bowl snacks that were created here in wisconsin that you can pair with this new vodka with a really curious flavor conrad you remember hotdog water
of course it's my favorite beverage
this is along those lines and it's very strange um
So we'll do all that after news, sports and weather, which is coming up in just a minute.
We've got another film opening this weekend.
I'm very excited about this.
Send help with.
Oh, yes.
Yes.
I don't mind.
It's getting great reviews.
It's a Sam Raimi film.
Sam Raimi, of course, did Army of Darkness.
I think the Evil Dead.
But he's just a simple plan.
He's a fantastic director and he's friends with the Coen brothers makes very similar movies to the Coens.
But I am very excited.
This trailer has been playing in theaters for about six months now.
And the first time I saw it, I thought, oh, that looks really great.
And then they give you the release date.
I'm like, oh, my God.
So we've been watching this trailer.
which even if it's for a good movie, I don't need to see a trailer 84 times.
But the movie is finally out this weekend.
Rachel McAdams, Dylan O'Brien, and Sam Raimi.
And another one.
Are you a fan of Highlander or Outlander?
I'm sorry.
No, no, no.
I think it's mostly, I think women love it.
My wife loved it, but that is getting a final season.
And apparently people are crying at the trailer.
All right.
You got that coming out, but we're going to tell you about really fun Super Bowl snacks that were created here in Wisconsin and really unique flavor of vodka.
You could pair those with and we're going to reach your text.
That's all afternoon sports and weather, which is coming up next.
Adam Hess is here from WRCO who makes the popcorn pick of the weekend.
Aliens in hour number three.
This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay, this is Night Light with Pete Chwaba.
Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.
And now a guy who likes to dine and dash, Pete Chwaba.
Welcome
back to Night Light folks.
It is time for hour number two or act two as I like to call it It is great to have you here tonight.
We got a fun question some great guests If you missed our number one, it is available in podcast form.
It's civicmedia.us Conrad and I talked about a lot of a lot of things to open the show the fact that weddings are 36 G's now on average 36 grand We talked about dear to Irwin
a Pulaski native here in northeast Wisconsin who is in the Olympics competing in the biathlon event and a local hat company or a hat company Stormy, Stormy Cromer put out hats so that she could identify her family in the stands.
I think that's really cool.
She will compete in the Winter Olympics and start next Friday night, February 6th.
She is also a Michigan Tech graduate and
part of the National Guard.
I think that's really cool.
I don't know much about the biathlon, but because of this, I will be cheering for Georgia Irwin.
Definitely.
I also mentioned that leading up to the Olympics, we are going to feature an athlete every night who is from Wisconsin and we will do a deep dive into said athlete and tell you a little bit about them.
I think it's more fun to cheer for people when you know, when you have sort of a personal connection
to an athlete or a performer or whatever.
So we'll talk about that.
We'll start that off tomorrow night.
So that will be fun.
And Joe Schwabba, my son came by to talk about the movie 28 years later, Bone Temple.
Joe drops by periodically to give us some quick thumbnail movie reviews and talk about movies I haven't seen yet.
So that was fun.
All of it is available at civicmedia.us.
Coming up this hour.
Adam Hess will be here.
Adam is a host at WRCO and Richland Center here at Civic Media, and he hosts a great show.
We're gonna tell you all about the shows that he hosts over on WRCW.
One of them is Week and Wake Up, and one of them is Prime Movers Saturdays, and I've got questions because they're both great shows.
Adam is gonna make the popcorn pick of the week, so by the time he leaves this show tonight, folks, you will have a movie pick.
possibly have a film you haven't seen yet.
And, you know, maybe it'll be the greatest film ever.
We'll see what kind of movies Adam likes at 635.
And then in hour number three, Becky Ferrara will be here talking about her new book, First Contact, a great book about aliens.
She did a deep dive into aliens.
She is a science reporter.
There is no conspiracy.
She like debunks things.
She presents things.
She's just a very solid reporter.
And she approached her book the same way that she approaches her work that she does for the New York Times and Vice and the MIT Review.
So she does great work.
She will be here.
And I'm very excited to talk to Becky.
We actually already recorded that, so we'll play it at 7.35.
She was a lot of fun and very informative if you're into aliens.
And who isn't?
I like some good alien talk every once in a while.
Conn, I think at this point, we should reintroduce our question of the night.
Let's
talk about the question.
Okay,
question.
Question.
Question.
Pregunta.
Question.
Question.
Okay, I have a question.
Questions.
This question.
Domanda.
Question.
Question.
Questions.
So, all right, we all know Sweethearts.
We got them handed out as kids.
They're Valentine's Day candy.
They have little messages on them, like, be mine, marry me.
All kinds of sweet messages, but the company has kind of pivoted and they're doing more contemporary stuff now like shared rent or Shared login information just some some phrases that we use now And I think you know that's interesting not quite as romantic, but they've definitely updated it and Conrad's was quick trip.
Yep And if you listen to this show regularly, you know why
Conrad has a thing for quick trip that is his favorite restaurant and You know what teaches on so good for you.
I said dance off and My favorite so far and we have to read some text here in a moment was six seven by Dave on the stream and one of our textures John also suggested six seven six seven
So we will, uh, we'll break those down.
We'll read some of your texts and we got a lot of social media responses we'll get to as well.
So all of that.
All right, we got to talk about this because there is a new flavored vodka.
When you, when you think vodka, what, what flavor comes to mind that you would maybe want to add to this particular spirit?
Probably something sweet, you know, so you can mix it well with like a, like a.
Sprite or water or something
totally agree However Not everybody feels that way So yesterday I tease the idea that there are some Wisconsin Super Bowl snacks out there made in Wisconsin for Wisconsin and we never got to it So tonight we're gonna talk about that and this vodka.
Okay.
This is a vodka that is and I saw this on newswire
Not a flavor you think would go with vodka, but Tabasco they've teamed up to put Tabasco in vodka Now If you drink a Bloody Mary you probably get that kind of vibe from it, but this is not just Tabasco being added to vodka They're like seriously mashing it up with pepper mash
and they're making it like really grainy or organic or whatever you want to call it.
The first ad for it features four people drinking it next to a volcano.
So it's hot, it's spicy.
Does that appeal to you at all on any level?
No, also because I don't like Bloody Mary's.
You don't like Bloody Mary's?
No, but.
Wow.
That just sounds gross to me.
I don't know.
I would give it a try, but I don't think I'd like it.
I gotta tell you, Bloody Mary is kind of one of the things I miss the most about drinking.
I love the idea of getting up after getting really hammered the night before and having a Bloody Mary.
It's like the
hair of the dog.
I just don't like tomato juice, so.
Yeah, I'm with you there.
But overall, with the spices they put in and the celery and the olives, it's a great drink.
It's a glorious drink.
But you can pair that Tabasco vodka with some of these snacks that were created in Wisconsin.
They were made locally and let's get to these cotton.
Did you look these over?
Yeah, one of them.
Well, one of them was we had on the show before.
Oh, yeah.
And that
was
yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
That's that's gone.
That was the candy from Ghana.
Oh my gosh, that was so good.
It was like it was
fantastic.
Yeah.
Why haven't we had him back on?
Let's let's track that guest down and have him back on because he brought us free stuff and let's be honest.
No, it was so good.
It was what it is or what he does.
But it's he's got this recipe.
It's outstanding.
So that wouldn't go good with no.
But it would be a great Super Bowl snack.
Payload popcorn.
Have you had that?
Yeah, I've had their their.
Cheese popcorn.
They're they're white, you know, better
caramel.
It's fantastic.
Absolutely.
Door County bakeries, Corsica sticks.
They are named after the Mediterranean island of Corsica.
These mini crunchy toasts are perfect for eating with dips and spreads.
And you can get them in a sister baked bakery.
You can add them to an antipasto.
They're good with olives and cheese.
Now that's a Super Bowl snack.
And all of this comes, by the way, of Up North News.
So thank you for that, Ellie Bordo, who's been on the show.
She was just on last week.
It does great work.
Rural Route 1, based in southwestern Wisconsin, since 1983, another popcorn brand.
Homegrown here in Wisconsin with all the classic flavors they have, like cheddar, maple pecan.
That's not the classic.
That's different, and that sounds glorious.
Jard, Jardettos my saying that right con.
Would you say that Jardettos or Gardettos?
Gardettos.
Gardettos.
Okay.
You haven't had these?
No, I have not.
What is it?
Oh, you have missed out on so much.
Oh, I gotta get home.
Gardettos
are fantastic.
There you go
to
any gas station, anything.
They're there.
They're like
an Italian snack, right?
A mix or something?
Yeah.
They're one of my favorite, like if I'm going to the gas, if I'm on a road trip and we go to the gas station, we're getting some snacks.
That's what I'm getting.
Okay.
And I didn't even know that it was made in Milwaukee in 1932.
How
about that?
Do they sell these at Quick Trip?
They sell them at every gas station you go to.
Okay.
Well, there you go, folks.
These are some great snacks you can check out.
They're all made right here in Wisconsin, and check out Up North News too, because, yeah, I forgot about that brittle from Ghana.
That is so good.
There's
one more here,
too.
I liked a lot.
Fortune favors.
Candy pecans.
Love a big candy pecan.
Dynamite stuff.
And that would go, maybe not too bad with the Tabasco vodka, but check out the Tabasco vodka as well, if you're brave.
We've got to get to some some text here.
Let's go to the text line where Monica from Mount Horrib says if these hearts are going to be more realistic one should read give up and another stalker and then Monica sorry I may be jaded.
It sounds like a Monica, but maybe well traveled is a better word.
I think you're pretty cool.
Chris from Sun Prairie in this area code 773.
There you go.
Chicago area code says, I got next round.
That candy tastes like chalk.
That's all I got.
That is my three picks.
That's all I got should go on the heart.
It's kind of like what Joe was saying.
But candy tastes like chalk.
Love that one.
And I got next round.
So these are like, you're wolfing them down in a bar.
We got some texts here from our pal John Murray in Madison as well John is in the 608 and he says on the sweetheart six seven just like Dave said on the stream Anything to use six seven I love it And he says and John also says I found out what it means, but swore not to tell it's just lyrics in a song Right yeah, so it's not a big secret.
I mean
It's kind of weird that kids got into it like they did but He says I swore not to tell and he also adds pinky promised Okay All right, we'll never
we'll never find it out then
we'll never find out thanks for nothing John He says no house for you
And then Melissa says, okay, boys, for the sweetheart candy, you can do pronouns.
He, him, she, her, blah, blah, or just an eggplant emoji.
Wow.
The eggplant emoji would, all right.
That's like, uh, supposed to be like a penis, right?
Isn't that why people use the eggplant?
They're not pushing vegetables.
That's supposed to be suggestive, correct?
Yeah.
I mean, unless eggplants are pretty tasty though.
So.
I'm only a partial fan.
Maybe Melissa is just really health conscious.
If you fry some eggplant, like just in the air fryer and it just have a little salt on it, it's
dying.
I would do that.
I don't like it when it's served with like pasta when they they kind of steam it.
It's all mushy.
I'm not a fan of that but All right, we've got more text to read from our social media posts.
We're gonna do all that Adam Hess is here from WRCO in just about 10 minutes after the news folks he's gonna make the popcorn pick of the week and
When we come back, we got to mention frozen waterfalls.
And I'm also going to tell you about a new show that's coming out season two, one of the funniest things I've ever seen.
That's all coming up next.
This is Nightlight with Peach Waba on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Welcome
back.
This is Nightlight IMP Chihuahua and you've got the Civic Media Radio Network.
It is great to have you here folks.
It is a Thursday night.
Temperatures are creeping ever upward at a snail's pace, but we are getting there.
At least we left that horrible.
frigid nonsense in the, in the rear view.
Hey, if you're looking for a really funny show, I don't know if you, if you've seen jury duty season one, which came out in 2023, one of the, one of the, some of the best laughs I've ever had were watching that show.
It's a mockumentary and it's kind of a hidden camera show.
And there is one unsuspecting jury member who the joke is on basically all the other jury members are part of the troop.
or are in on the joke and last uh in season one they had James Marsden very funny actor very good actor who was also one of the joke because it was shot in LA so he played an alternate juror Conrad did you see this show
no i haven't but it sounds
interesting so funny and what made it funny was the guy they were playing the joke on was a really good guy
Like there's one scene where this Asian guy is playing this game I don't know if it's real or not but he made it up and he said play sticks because there's a lot of scenes where they're just hanging out Waiting to go into the courtroom and those are the best and He says this game is called sticks and he keeps losing at it and he keeps telling the guy who doesn't know what's going on I owe you $2,000 now
You don't have to pay me.
Oh, come on.
No, you don't have to pay me like and then there's one guy who's Complaining that his girlfriend is off having sex with all these guys on a tropical island somewhere and James Marsden is trying to console him and this guy is just watching all of this go on having no idea It's all fictitious It's a really funny show and the second season comes out.
I want to say March 20th.
It's called a
Season well, it's called jury duty company retreat or jury duty presents company retreat the second season of this great show Highly recommend you have time to watch the first season if you want to check it out folks very funny stuff Okay, so let's talk did you know waterfalls could freeze Conrad?
I didn't and
I am such an indoor guy in
I'm kind of embarrassed that I didn't know this, like I knew it could freeze once it fell, but on Up North News, we were just talking about Up North News, they did this great piece about frozen waterfalls that you can check out around the state.
And they just freeze, like the water's falling, they're like icicles, I get that part of it, but when the water is so powerful and coming down with such force, I didn't know it could freeze like that.
And these pictures, if you go to Up North News, are incredible.
There's one in Bayfield.
which I still have never been to, but it is supposed to be one of the most beautiful areas of our state.
And I mean, I live in northern Wisconsin.
Somehow I can still go three hours or four hours north of where I am and not be in Bayfield yet.
But Willow Falls is another one, the Apostle Island Ice Caves.
That's what it is near Bayfield Peninsula.
Beautiful stuff.
Big Manitow, Manitou Falls is another one.
Brownstone Falls, this is great stuff.
This was a good find and you found this on Up North News, correct?
Yeah,
yep.
Stevens Falls, okay, near Governor Dodge State Park.
And Cascade Falls, near a town I can't pronounce, Oskala.
Oskala?
Oskala, is that how?
How are there towns in Wisconsin?
I don't know how to produce, but that Moscato every night.
I have no idea how to say that.
Muscadoo.
Muscadoo.
Muscadoo.
We've heard from enough people.
Yeah.
All right.
So coming up after New Sports and whether Adam Hess will be here from WRCO and Richland Center, part of our civic media team here, and he's going to make the popcorn pick of the week.
Janet on social media in response to our question of the night, which is, what would you put on a sweetheart?
What would your message be?
They've pivoted and they're putting more contemporary messages on these little sweet sweethearts like split rent shared login Six seven if you're Dave or John Janet says I've heard statements that are supposed to really mean I love you like watch for deer text when you get home Probably too long for tiny hearts though.
I think you could do it Janet
Mike on the social media question says, OU812, very famous Van Halen.
And you got eating in there.
I like what you did there, Mike, very well done.
Amanda Nimmer from WGBW says, tacos with a question mark.
Yeah.
Now see, there you go, Con.
So when you start, I know you're, I don't think you're in a relationship right now.
We don't really discuss our personal lives, which is fine.
But you will probably take a girl to quick trip for the first date for so many tacos there, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
That's where I was going with like that's a great one, Amanda.
Thank you Mike.
That's the tell also says six seven That's our third six seven of the night.
My pal Dave Hendrick says no more cheese That could be in relation to the messages they put on the sweethearts in the past or a dairy issue Eric Rathsek in response to quick trip
Said good ones.
You know, he's just encouraging you Conrad and I like Eric a lot, but he agrees.
That doesn't need to be done.
Well or any price Vince Moranto on social media says ice out.
Oh, there you go And he's not talking about the waterfalls Conrad.
He wants ice out I Would love to see Vince walk up to an ice person or member or whatever they are and hand them
That's sweet.
Maybe you could build a bridge there Vince.
I don't know.
Maybe that would help.
Daniel Wheeler says, let's nap.
Yeah, that's a good one.
I've had lots of friends I've taken a nap with.
Robert Bro on social media says, seat down.
That works.
These are awesome.
Scott Tom says, shovel it now.
Are you talking about the sweetheart Scott or outside because this has been such a rough winter.
Uh, how are we doing on time?
We have about 30 seconds.
30 seconds.
I can read another one.
Scott Tom says three inches.
It's the law.
Also great coupon.
Oh, these are fantastic.
All right.
We are coming back afternoon sports and weather with Adam Hess from WRCO in Richland center and the popcorn pick of the week is on the way, folks.
This is Pete Schwabba and nightlight.
So glad you're here on the civic media radio network.
It's time for the Nightlight Popcorn Pick of the Week where we recommend a movie that you'll either enjoy or won't.
Here's your host, Pete Schwaba.
Hey, welcome back.
It is time for the Popcorn Pick of the Week.
We always have so much fun recommending a movie for you guys to watch heading into the weekend.
I am halfway through Song Song Blue and I'm embarrassed.
I haven't seen the whole film yet and I don't think I'm truly a Wisconsinite until I finish that movie.
But I'm on it.
And we are going to make the popcorn pick of the week and joining us this week to do it.
I'm very excited this worked out.
It is a pleasure to welcome back to Nightlight, my civic media colleague and host of Weekend Wake Up and Prime Movers Saturdays on WRCO FM in Richland Center, Mr. Adam Hess.
Hey,
buddy.
Hey, Pete.
Glad to be on.
I really appreciate it.
And I have been thinking.
I've done my research about your show, and I listen to it quite often.
Your popcorn pick, it's going to be crazy.
I am going to shock the world, well, maybe not, with my popcorn pick.
With my pick anyway.
I'm going to throw my two cents in there, so we appreciate you having us on.
Really appreciate the effort.
So we'll we'll get to that We'll talk about some snacks first and movies we like and then we'll do a drum roll and I'll ask you for the pick So I'm glad you have it ready You're all set and I have no doubt you're gonna crush this just basically because there are no right or wrong answers But also because you're a sharp guy, so it'll be fun.
Thank you for being here Any thoughts Adam before we start on what you would put on a sweetheart?
You know, I'm kind of a classic guy.
I was a child of the 80s and 90s, formative years.
And, you know, I remember the sweethearts that said, you know, be my Valentine and, you know, be mine and I'm yours.
And I've got I've got one that you could give to a girlfriend, a boyfriend, a friend or a stranger.
You ready for this?
Absolutely.
Here we go.
Be a good human.
Wow, that's great.
Yeah, huh?
So simple.
And we need it.
It is.
I'm not sure all of that would fit.
I'm one of the little hearts that may have to be one of the medium sized hearts a little bigger, but just be a good human.
And that works great everywhere.
You go to the theater, be a good human.
You're at the gas station.
You're giving somebody away your candy heart.
Just be a good human.
That's all it really takes, Pete.
And
that's the kind of thing, Adam.
It's interesting that that's your message.
You could give that to a random stranger and it's not suggestive in any way.
It's just, hey, this is random.
Be a good human.
I love it.
Hey, you know what?
If you are a good human already, then the heart's a bonus.
And if you're not a good human, give you something to think about.
And it just might put you over the top.
Like, let's say you approach someone that you're attracted to and you give that to them.
Maybe that's all you need, buddy.
Maybe that closes the deal.
You know,
because he or she would know that, hey, Adam's a pretty good human if he wants somebody else to be a good human.
You're right.
You know, if I weren't married already, Pete, I'd try that.
I may still try that with my wife.
I may give her a heart that says be a good human and we'll see how that works out.
You do that or get a hall pass and just say, honey, give me the night to go hand out these hearts and see what happens.
So you can report back
here.
I would really appreciate that.
Well, I'll tell you what, I'm a social media guy, so I'll bring her along and she can actually, you know, hide in the car or something and videotape me on the street, giving those away.
Why is it that if you were a guy and you gave those away, people might go,
Oh, that's great.
Thank you.
But if like a woman, especially if she's like attractive, went out and gave that to someone, a guy would mean she wants to sleep with me.
Like that's how he would take it, right?
Yeah, that's that.
That's the double standard we live in.
And unfortunately, I think that's just the male mentality.
And I write her wrong.
I mean, you know, I remember in my youth, when you know, when you're you're trying to score points with the the fairer sex,
All they really had to do was look at me, Pete.
I think she's interested.
I'm going to get her phone number.
There you go.
This is great.
Well, it's great to have you here.
Let's talk movies, and then we'll get into some things.
I want to hear what you're doing there at WRCO and the shows you're hosting.
They just sound great.
And we're going to talk a little Alice in Dairyland as well, which was the whole reason I saw your great piece about that, and I wanted to have you on.
So I'm glad this worked out.
But let's start with movies.
How do you like to watch movies, Adam?
Are you a theater guy or a home?
You like to stream them at home?
What do you do?
Yeah, so in my youth, and we still have them, we're one of the lucky cities, my hometown of Richland Center, Pete.
We have a drive-in movie theater.
We also have an indoor theater.
Yeah, and just really, really quickly, Starlight 14 is the name of our drive-in theater.
And not only is it just such a great gathering place for the community, but the radio station, we have a really close working relationship.
Phil Knee, he's our morning man, host of those worthy days.
and just all around a great guy, Phyllis.
Once a year, maybe twice a year, we do what's called a throwback night at the drive-in.
And we let our listeners sort of pick which two movies they want to watch.
They vote on them.
We give them a list.
And then Phil will broadcast live and we'll all stop down there and have a good time.
We're broadcasting live over the radio and at the drive-in up until movie time.
And then we, you know, then we just start playing music on the radio and we enjoy Greece, American graffiti, whatever the...
whatever the fan base picks.
So my heart is at the drive-in.
I remember to this day, the very first movie, I was old enough to drive my car with a carload of friends to go see at the drive-in.
I don't remember what the second feature was, but I remember what the first one was.
So it would go in the order of drive-in theater, home streaming, then an indoor theater.
But I'll tell you what, those are all great Pete.
If you have a movie, you can't go wrong.
There's no wrong answer.
That's a great point.
And you were the first person, since I've been doing this segment, that said a drive-in theater.
I love that.
And I remember the first drive-in films I saw was a Rocky Double feature.
Yeah.
It was probably 1980.
It was Rocky 1 and 2, and my dad took all five of us.
and
I don't know if you
lost a bet with my mom or whatever it was like.
Did you guys have the old station wagon that you could go clear in the back and then pop that window open and watch the movie?
Because if you've never been to a drive-in in an old 1970s or 80s, I think it's like a Buick Century wagon, a state wagon, you sort of missed out on your childhood.
And the kids of today, and you know, God bless the Priuses and all those great cars that are getting 85 miles to the game.
you didn't have a five-gallon per mile Vista Cruiser or the estate wagon.
You missed some childhood there at the
drive-in.
It's so funny you said it.
We did have a Buick Century wagon and it was bright yellow.
I don't
know if my folks
got a deal from Lynch Buick in Chicago or what, but it was just the worst looking car ever.
I
hope they got a deal.
I hope they got a deal.
And you
must have.
Because you roll into a new town where we moved to Marinette and it's like, oh, that's an interesting car.
Everybody's judging me.
But
we didn't.
You're at the back.
You're
instantly judged.
Totally.
But we, I wish we had thought of that.
We never popped back.
It was kind of rainy and we had that speaker, you know, how they put that speaker through the window so the sound is not great, but
it's more of an
experience, you know.
So I'll tell you what, Starlight 14, many years ago, I want to say maybe a decade ago, they bought a transmitter system and you tune your radio at the drive-in theater to whatever it happens to be, 88.1 or whatever frequency they're using and you never have to bring that speaker into your window again.
because I'll be honest with you, that's part of the nostalgia, but that speaker always sounded like the adults on Charlie Brown.
You could hear some of it, and a lot of it was wah, wah, wah, wah, and then you're like, what'd they say?
And then your mom would be like, be quiet, we're watching the movie.
So yeah, the FM transmitter system has really done well for Starlight 14.
Have you ever snuck into a drive-in movie, Adam, with friends, like put a couple of them in the trunk like people used to do?
I've
never
done that, but I've heard people have done
that.
So I'll tell you a story.
In high school, I had a 1973 Dodge Tradesmen 100 van.
And I had a couple of couches back there and some speakers and it was just it was a real mobile little unit for for playing Uker or hanging out with friends.
But if you if you grab the hold of the couch and you turned it towards the driver, you could fit three or four people behind the couch.
And if they weren't opening the back door of the van, they weren't finding them.
So, you know, here's a shout out to Randy, Chuck and Kenny, who we all got into the drive-in Starlight 14, no less, for one admission.
And they looked at me like, you're going to the drive-in by yourself.
And I'm like, yes, I am, which I wasn't.
It looks a little suspicious.
Just one tonight, please.
Pete, they had to know.
They had to know.
I'm going and buying four popcorns.
You know, they had to know.
My guest is Adam Haas.
He is a colleague here at Civic Media and does great work at Richland Center as the host of Weekend Wake Up and Prime Mover Saturdays on WRCO FM.
And if you're lucky enough, you can check out one of these events they do at the Starlight 14 there in Richland Center.
It sounds like an absolute blast.
Do you have a favorite genre, Adam, like in terms of movies you like to watch?
Yeah, I love series movies.
And from basically from my youth back to the future.
I'll watch all three parts.
Part two is my favorite because that's the part two was the very first movie that I drove a vehicle to to go see at the drive it.
Oh, nice.
Indiana Jones love that love that series crocodile Dundee part three was a little weak in Los Angeles But if there's nothing else on I'll watch it but part one and two I always consider that really a two-part movie series, right?
Um, but yeah, and I'm an nostalgia guy, you know, I do the, uh, uh, you know, this weekend entertainment history and it's a big to do.
I always make a big to do about telling you about stuff that happened in the past.
Um, if you, uh, if you visit our, our, uh, Facebook page, I'm always doing a throwback Thursday.
If you visit my personal Facebook page, you would think it's still 1990.
Pete, I'm okay with that.
You know, people around me, you know, the, the, my listeners enjoy it.
My wife tolerates it.
I'm going to keep doing it.
You could do a lot worse.
That's for sure.
Right.
All right.
So you like to watch Drive-In, then Home, then Theater.
You like the action movies, the franchise action movies that we all grew up with in the 80s, outstanding stuff.
What is your favorite movie snack, Adam?
Like, let's say you're sitting down and watching Indiana Jones.
There's a story behind this, Pete.
I'm a Junior Mitt guy.
Popcorn and Junior Mitts.
Well, one time, my wife and my daughter and I, we went to a movie theater.
It was an indoor up at Lake Dalton.
And I bought the biggest, I bought like the $12 box of Junior Mitts because we're going to watch Over the Hedge and I'm going to share my Junior Mitts and we're going to have a great time.
Unbeknownst to me I was sitting in the in the seat and as I'm putting one junior mint in my mouth Apparently two or three were falling down in my lap and then under me somehow So when we got up to leave my daughter who was probably eight or nine at the time when over the hedge came out maybe ten She she and she was my my stepdaughter So she always called me Adam and not dad and we're out in the the lobby and she goes Adam
You have a problem.
And I'm like, well, we all know that.
But what do you think my problem is?
And she goes, you said on half a box of junior mints.
And I thought she meant I actually said on a box and I crushed the box.
I'm like, Oh, haha.
No, I went into the restroom and I was picking junior mints off my backside for quite a few minutes.
They had to wait out in the lobby for me.
But I'll tell you what, even though they betrayed me at Lake Dalton, junior mints, that's still my go to for the movies.
My question.
Did you eat the junior men's after pulling them off your pants?
Yeah.
Well, there's nobody around to deny or confirm that.
So we're going to say no.
And we're going to go with that because that's probably the safer bet just to not gross everyone out.
So yeah, we threw them away.
That's what we did.
All right.
So we've got about a minute before we have to go to a break.
Adam Hess is my guest.
We are inching closer to his popcorn pick of the week.
Did your snack change at home?
Do you have a different snack you like when you watch movies at home?
I'll mix the popcorn up a little bit, Pete, like I'll put a little ranch, dry ranch flavoring on it, or I'll make my own little caramel to put over it, or I'll just have popcorn plain, but it's usually caramel, because I love caramel or popcorn and chocolate together.
So it's usually like a junior mint, but whatever chocolate's available, if it's a plain or Hershey bar, the ones that everybody pushes away, I'll grab them with my popcorn, because then you have your sweet and your salty, and then I am ready for Marty McFly and back to the future.
This
is awesome.
All right, NMS, we are coming back.
We're gonna do a very short break and very soon you're gonna hear his popcorn pick of the week after I ask him what kind of cocktail he likes with a movie.
This is Pete Schwabba Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.
For my own...
We are jamming through Act 2 here on Nightlight on this Thursday night.
It is a popcorn pick of the week night.
And joining me to make tonight's pick is my colleague over at WRCO and Richland Center, the great host of Weekend Wake Up and Prime Movers Saturdays, Mr. Adam Hess.
So before the break, we've learned that Adam likes junior men, he likes popcorn, he likes the drive-thru.
Then streaming and then the shared experience in a movie theater.
What is your favorite, Adam?
Do you have a cocktail that you like to drink when you watch movies?
Yeah, I do.
It's a brandy old-fashioned suite.
I actually, I was on the air early, actually late December, right before New Year's with Greg Bach from the network here.
And I shared my recipe and you can find that by searching our news articles on WRCO or even Civic Media News.
I wrote an entire story, the history of the brandy old-fashioned, my favorite brandy to use, what muddler to use.
I gave a link
on what
muddler to buy.
It's a 799 muddler from Amazon, by the way.
Um, but
yeah, radio
fashion, um, you know, if it's, if it's not sprite and if I'm not going anywhere and I'm just going to be chilling at home watching a streaming service and I will partake in a brandy old fashion and that's, it's just, you know, it's, it's a Wisconsin drink.
It, it's a, it's a supper club drink and, uh, that's, that's going to lead me into, uh, one of my current picks.
I'll tell you about movie wise.
So
radio fashion.
It's also very hard to sneak that into a movie theater.
So I assumed you were talking about you sound like you're talking from experience therapy.
I snuck.
Listen, this is kind of embarrassing.
I haven't had pardon me.
I haven't had a drink in three years, not cord ordered or anything like that.
I just chose to take a little break.
Right.
And now it's over three years.
And my wife and I will sneak non-alcoholic like blue moons or Stellas into the theater.
And that feels really subversive in a weird way.
Oh, I love it.
Yeah,
I love it.
You know, it's just it's just taking it to the man.
That's that's that's all of this.
You can you can be sneaking in a bottle of water.
But if you know, you got away with it.
Yeah, that means that means a lot.
That's right.
There you go.
I love that.
Okay.
So let's see.
What else can we do here?
I think we're ready.
Conrad, if you please, I think we're ready to get Adam's popcorn pick of the week.
So a drum roll, please.
All right, here we go.
Entertainment, pick of the week, Crocodile part two, Crocodile Dundee part two, my fantasy, back to the future part two, sci-fi, Star Trek first contact and for current, Claire Sardina was a guest on those were the days with Filney, he interviewed her, she and her husband were the basis for drum roll, song, sung, blue.
It's
a Wisconsin
flick.
Yeah, so is that you mentioned those other films, but the drums were put was that a Qualifier or is just song sung blue your pick
Adam?
Song sung blue is gonna be my my pick for see I have real trouble isolating, you know, what's my favorite movie so
I have to categorize that's my that currently that's my favorite pick and I say go out watch it.
It's on prime That's where I streamed it on prime video Definitely, but if we ever want to talk, you know sci-fi we're gonna always go back to Star Trek fantasy is gonna take me back to the future so And and for pure entertainment crocodile Dundee you can't go wrong But right now if somebody said what's your favorite movie?
I'd have to you'd have to qualify it.
Is it gonna be current?
Are we talking sci-fi?
Are we talking 80s?
Are we talking silent?
There's no right or wrong.
So it could be old, it could be new.
Song Sun Blue is a great pick and I mentioned this yesterday.
I had one of our film critic guest Matt Miller was on from Milwaukee and I said I don't even feel like it was constant night because I have not seen Song Sun Blue all the way through yet.
I watched an hour of it yesterday and it's such a fun movie and the music is so great.
I had to turn it off because I said, I want to watch this with my wife or with someone else and get some food.
It's like an event.
And I know I didn't get to the more dramatic parts yet, but so far I love it.
Kate Hudson is great.
Oh, yeah.
Excellent pick, Adam.
I'll tell you.
You you you're still a fool on Wisconsin night because you've got that Wisconsin guilt for not going through it in one sitting But there's a reason we pay for Netflix and Prime and and Paramount Plus and all of those networks They give us a flexibility to be able to hit pause true and and entertainment now works
around our life.
Do you remember being a fanatic of like friends or maybe Seinfeld or whatever you were a fanatic of in the 80s and 90s, you had to be in front of your television at seven o'clock on
a
Thursday night with NBC ready to go or you waited till summertime reruns.
Either that or you put popped in a VHS tape and recorded it off the TV, which you never watched after that anyway.
But I agree with you.
And listen, that's one of the things I have issues like there's good and bad about technology.
One of the greatest things ever, though, about it is I can watch Cheers when I'm falling asleep or science of anytime I want.
I love that stuff.
Now, you also, I will say, because I rented song sung blue.
On prime 20 bucks I paid for it because I had two guests last night that I knew we're gonna want to discuss it So I paid the 20 bucks.
Did you pay the 20 bucks?
It's the prime video.
I got a bit of a deal on it I would have to look at my bill because I have it's called the top tier something Which allows me to family share on my prime video.
So I'll be honest with you I'll know once I check the old credit card statement, but if I did pay 20 bucks, it's worth it If
I
got a better deal, it's you know what that gives me $10 to go buy another Star Trek DVD
Well, I did not mean to give you homework under no circumstances what I do that, but I do think it's worth it.
I paid it.
I rarely do.
I do that.
I usually wait till it's like five or six bucks, but I did pay the 20 bucks and it was like 24 to buy it.
And I was like, well, that's a tough one.
But anyway,
I did.
I did the rental.
I did not buy it.
I did
the
rental.
Yeah.
Nice.
Well, now that I like it so much, I'm like, oh, I should have just paid the extra four bucks and bought it.
But Adam Hess is here, folks.
His popcorn pick of the week is Song Song Blue, a great
Wisconsin based movie, even though they didn't shoot it in Wisconsin.
We can talk about that after the break.
Can you hang with us for a few more minutes, Adam?
Oh, you bet.
I'd love to.
Fantastic.
All right.
We're talking Alice in Dairyland coming up next and we'll, we'll finish this conversation about songs on blue.
Adam has this here folks.
It's Peach Wabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media radio
network.
my love I really wanna know you I really wanna go with you I really wanna show you love that it won't take long my love
Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.
This is Night Light with Pete Schwabba.
Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.
And now a guy who considers a silver medal, a participation award, Pete Schwabba.
That's timely.
All right, welcome back folks.
This is Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.
It is great to have you here, folks.
We are celebrating tonight as our popcorn pick of the week on this Thursday night, the Christmas Eve of weeknights.
And we just got the pick from Adam Hess, who is still with us.
We will be back to Adam in just a moment.
If you missed hours one and two of Nightlight tonight, you can check them out at civicmedia.us.
In hour number one, we talked to Joe Schwabble, my son, who
Drops by periodically to talk about movies and we did a quick review of 28 years Bone temple, which he liked a lot.
You can catch that on the podcast.
We also talked about how Conrad weddings at 36 grand.
Yeah, so you better marry a rich girl.
That's all I'm saying
I'll start saving up now
All right, get some candy hearts, some sweethearts with your quick trip on there.
See where that goes for you.
Maybe
get a
quick trip to pay for the wedding.
I
don't know.
Quick trip sponsored wedding.
Now that's an idea.
I'm sure it's been thought of sadly.
We also learned that Stranger Things for all of its popularity was not the most streamed show in the world or in America.
I don't know.
I assume the world, but Bluey.
Our other civic media colleague, Stuart J. Waddle's favorite show, Blue Eat, was the number one stream show of 2025, which I think is really cool because my kids are older, but thanks to Stuart, I love that show.
If you are just joining us also, you should know that our question of the night, it's kind of complicated folks, but you remember those little sweetheart candies, they were so fun to hand out in grade school.
the sweetheart company has kind of pivoted and they're doing some different cool things with the messages.
You used to say, be mine, let's get married.
I almost said something really obscene that I probably shouldn't have.
But they're changing things up.
Now they have messages like split rent, shared login, our question of the night, which you still have time to get in on is what words would you
Put on a sweetheart.
Let us know.
I said dance off Conrad said quick trip and We'd like to read yours as well Coming up at 7 35 tonight is our author friend Becky Ferrara.
She's great She wrote a book called first contact about aliens Becky is a science reporter who's been published in the New York Times popular mechanics MIT
vice.
She does really solid investigative journalism.
And now she's got a full book about making contact with aliens, and it's really good.
So that is pre-recorded content.
We'll roll that at 735.
I highly recommend it if you're at all interested in aliens.
And who is it?
Just to get some clarification, earlier, Melissa from the 608, texted us and put an eggplant at the end of her text.
That she would put on a sweetheart and I thought that was like, you know Suggestive and like a sexual thing kind
of yeah, I'm
going with this right okay a penis let's just say let's get it out there and I was right because Melissa texted back and said sorry guys It's totally foul.
You don't have to you don't have to apologize for that Melissa.
We guessed it
And John Murray says QR codes on all the Sweethearts.
Get your phones out, kids.
Love that one too.
So join the fun, be part of the show, and text us what you would put on a sweetheart.
Right now, let's get back to my current guest, Adam Hess.
He does great work here at Civic Media over there in Richland Center on WRCO, where he is the host of Weekend Wake Up and Prime Movers Saturdays.
His popcorn pick of the week is a great one, especially...
Since we're in Wisconsin, but you know Wisconsin aside Adam the film totally works like they didn't even film it here Oh, yeah, no one outside of Wisconsin cares about that for me personally I would have loved to have seen Milwaukee in the film.
Yes 100% when we were
talking about that at the station because Claire Sardino was a guest on our morning show Phil needed a great job as he always does interviewing yeah his guests but it was a great one we put that in the the news story but we were talking about yeah you know if they could have just actually had a camera and an actor on a street in Milwaukee you know I don't care if it's you know Cherry Street or wherever just
I totally agree with you that there should have been a greater Wisconsin connection there.
Hey, I want to jump back and I'm going to change my answer, Pete.
I'm going to go with QR codes.
I love that.
I never thought of that.
I'm a technology guy.
I'm a QR code creator and I could route everybody to the prime mover site.
That's
all I'd have to do is
put a QR code on a heart and hand them out.
Hey, let's talk about that.
I love the idea of the show, Prime Mover.
Tell people, first of all, let's tell people about the show's weekend wake-up and Prime Mover Saturdays.
All right.
Well, the weekend wake-up, I host on Saturday mornings from 5 a.m.
until 10 a.m.
It's a fun wake-up.
We have a large, rural
listenership.
So, you know, I know what kind of music the cows like and what they like to give milk to and I'll play it and we do a look at this weekend entertainment history, which will play TV themes and cuts from actors and actresses and will will play old TV commercials and we'll talk about what happened this week and we do that at 720 every morning.
And then we have news and weather and sports.
So it's it's a it's a true morning show.
on Saturday and we just like to, you know, get people up and going and ready to face
the
world and get ready for Prime mover, which happens at 830 runs from 830 until 10.
It's a 90 minute show and it's a buy sell trade show.
Or you get to call up and say, hey, I'm gonna sell my bike.
I'm looking for a I'm looking for a Caprice or a Buick station wagon and you give your number and So the show has been on the air longer than I have been alive.
It started in the early 1970 Yeah, yeah, it was 15 minutes.
I believe when it first started
Here's a fun fact.
When I was in, I want to say maybe a late elementary school, so fourth, fifth, sixth grade, somewhere in there, I called Prime Mover and a man who I ended up working with and I'm friends with to this day, Bill Twining was hosting Prime Mover.
It was I think maybe 30 minutes, maybe 60 minutes at that time.
I sold a bike.
I'm prime mover.
My dad told me I could get a new bike, but I had a perfectly good bike.
I just outgrown it.
And he goes, you know, you have to kick in a few bucks.
You have to do something with your old bike.
So I called old prime mover and I sold my bike and it was sold that morning.
And another kid came out with his parents and they bought my bike and I had, you know, 15 bucks to kick
in towards my
new bike.
And who knew that, you know,
I started hosting Prime mover, took a few years off in the 2000s to do a software engineering position, but who knew that I would, you know, 20 years later, I'd be hosting that show started.
I've been hosting it since 1994.
Joanne Krulatz hosted it, our news director for a
couple of
years when I was gone.
Yeah, and you know, it's yeah, it's a great show We do prime mover sports during there.
So we'll cover all the local events We'll get your kids name on there if your kids scored 40 points last night.
We're gonna do our 940 prime mover sports.
We're gonna talk about it We we talk about events coming up if you you know if you have a fundraiser get on the show tell us about it if you if you yeah, whatever you have a rummage sale a little cold now for a rummage sale But I'll tell you one a couple of months.
It won't be
And yeah, we we just have a lot of fun with it It is a it is a great time great interaction with my listeners and and our listeners You know every DJ and every station says this but I'm gonna say it as well Pete our listeners are the best
You know, I totally believe that when you say that Adam because you just said when you're from the area you've been hosting that show since 94 I mean you you sound like you are
WRCO.
I mean, that's you're totally ingrained.
I think I'll tell you
I'll tell you I'm a young whipper snapper there
Phil
knee our general manager our morning man and the guy who hosts those were the days
Yeah,
he started he started when I was in junior high He started at WRCO in 1986 and he he is the staple.
He is the man I am the guy who's carrying the water to him, you know, I'm
I'm
his I'm his water boy
But I wouldn't have it any other way.
He's a great boss, great friend, great co-worker, and our listeners, they get it.
Our listeners understand what we're providing for them and what they provide to us.
It's just a great symbiotic relationship.
You've got Bo Heinrichs there too.
Is he just as much fun on a daily basis as he is at company meetings?
Oh, you know, that Bo, he, uh,
yeah, yeah.
Bo Heinrichs, he's a local boy too.
Phil and I both went to a school called Ithaca about 10 miles outside of a center.
And then Bo, he's a, he's a Richland center guy.
So, uh, you know,
he
believes that, that, that hornet red and black, orange and black.
And, um, he's a WRCO guy through and through.
And yeah, he, he, he's a fun guy.
He really is, you know, whether you're talking sports with him or you're you're talking about what he's doing on the air or, you know, you're out at the company party and you're having an old fashioned with him.
He's a he's a good guy.
Bo is and he's
a lot of fun.
Adam Hesse is my guest.
He is one of the hosts at WRCO.
He hosts Weekend Wake Up and Prime Mover Saturdays within that Weekend Wake Up.
Two great, well, a great show and a great segment.
He joins us here tonight to make the Popcorn Pick of the Week.
His Popcorn Pick of the Week was Song Song Blue, a great Wisconsin movie.
I'm probably gonna finish it tonight because I have like seven hours left to watch it or I lose my 20 bucks.
But listen, we've got to get to something here, Adam, because the deadline is tomorrow.
Yes.
For Alice and Daryl have a few more minutes.
So
No Conrad and by the way Conrad I wanted to tell you your pick of music for intros and outros That's a chef's kiss spot on you demand Conrad.
We you know, we're just we're just living in your world, buddy Yeah, so Alice in Dairyland Pete everybody knows who Alice in Dairyland is It's a one-year contractual position starts in July you get to travel around the state sometimes around the nation You're an official Worker for the Department of Ag trade and consumer protection out of their Madison office.
You go around
you talk about farming and you talk about cheese and potatoes and milk and anything that Wisconsin produces, you get to be the PR lady for that.
And
we're looking for the 79th.
Wisconsin's looking for the 79th.
You have until tomorrow at 4 30 Friday at 4 30 deadlines done.
If you need more information, you can simply go to Wisconsin.gov.
You can go right to the Alice in Dairyland website as well, which is simply Alice in Dairyland.com.
And if you want to have all your materials ready and you want to email it, you need to provide a cover letter, completed application form, resume, and contact information, and three professional references.
But if Conrad's one of them, he counts as all three.
It's D-A-T-C-P Alice at Wisconsin.
dot gov.
You can head over to W R C O dot com civic media dot us.
You will find the Alice and Dairyland story that Joanne and I put together and the links are in there.
I threw the links in there.
You can just click and go
And we were able to have the 78th Alice in Dairyland at the station the other day.
Sarah
Hagenau.
Yeah, she stopped by.
She brought Wisconsin potatoes.
She bakes some potatoes.
Phil had her on the air.
Part of the morning show.
That was just tremendous.
You can always go to civicmedia.us and search Morning Show.
The WRC morning show will come up and you can listen to that.
You can listen.
to anything that we've had on there from the Sardina interview with Song Song Blue to local school districts, to statewide political races, to the Alice in Dairyland interview.
So a lot of fun and she
is just,
she represents Wisconsin.
She is Wisconsin.
She is the future of Wisconsin.
Anybody who's Alice in Dairyland Pete, they are what the future of Wisconsin should be.
talking agriculture, talking technology in agriculture and knowing what they're doing and just proud to be doing it.
That is one hell of a sales pitch.
I love it.
Get your applications in tomorrow, folks.
Adam, thank you so much tonight.
Thanks for the pick.
Thanks for the time.
It's been great hanging with you, and let's do it again soon.
Yeah, I would be down with that.
It was great.
I appreciate it.
Conrad and Pete, I'm going to go watch some Star Trek right
now, so I appreciate you having me in.
Anytime, buddy.
All right, we'll do it again.
Thank you, Adam.
We are coming right back.
It's Pete Schwabba in Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Welcome back That was fun Adam has a popcorn pick of the week a song sung blue and We got the lowdown on Alice in Dairyland So if you think you would make a great Alice in Dairyland you have until tomorrow and he threw so much information at us I would just say go to the podcast at civicmedia.us if you want to hear how that How that works and if that's something you'd want to
Check out.
It's a pretty cool thing.
I didn't realize they'd been doing it for 79 years, Conrad.
And I also didn't realize we were known for potatoes here in Wisconsin.
Yeah.
I mean, we got some great fries here in Wisconsin, don't we?
I mean,
great for baked potatoes, you know, for, what are they called, for supper clubs?
Yeah.
But, you know, I didn't know we like were known for making them.
That's kind of cool.
Yeah, I think it is pretty cool
Jim on the stream in response to our Our oh, he was This is sweetheart comment was Pete froze, but that was earlier when we had a technical Yeah, thank you Jim and then he says right for the weather.
It's 10 degrees out right now Conrad.
What is going
on?
Pretty warm out if
you ask me
disgusting.
Um, I would like to thank all my guests tonight that we've interviewed so far.
Adam has Joe Schwabba.
Thank you for all your texts and calls tomorrow night on nightlight.
Another fun night.
We've got two authors on that's going to be fun romance author Adrian Herrera will be here.
Did you know Conrad that romance is the number one seller right now with books?
I didn't know that
skin towards that time of, you know,
Valentine's Day, so I could see yes.
Yeah, we don't have to qualify if people want to read about romance.
That's fine.
I'm not it's not a genre I've ever you know, I if any genre is done well though I'll dig it whether it's a movie TV show book whatever but Adrian will be here tomorrow That will be fun and then author Jeff Stern who is also an author
and a journalist and he's had one of his stories turned into a movie by Clint Eastwood.
Jeff will be here tomorrow night at 6.35 p.m.
and guess what Conrad?
Tomorrow is Friday so you know what that means.
It's a bar ban Friday.
Bar ban Friday baby.
Terry Barr will be here assuming she's feeling better.
Yeah.
Do we know how Terry is doing?
She looks to be in better spirits.
So you've seen her?
Well, I've seen her chat avatar.
Okay, there you go.
It looks pretty healthy Have you seen song song
blue?
No, I haven't I definitely want to give it a watch though because just I am just
Absolutely.
I'm going to finish it.
We do got a steady eddy text to chime in our sweetheart candy.
I
love that.
This is another classic.
And, you know, I've got two authors on tomorrow night.
I had one author on tonight, and then we've got a steady eddy text.
Which he was an author, yeah.
I would consider steady eddy an author.
But all right, let's read this.
Pete, this is from steady eddy, obviously, in the 608.
Pete, my sweetheart candy suggestions.
23 Skadoo.
I really never understood that phrase.
I'm going to have to Google that.
I remember hearing it the Brady Bunch, and I know it's a reference to some kind of dance move, but I have to claim ignorance on this one.
I just don't remember, even though I've looked it up before, what it is.
But as Steady Eddie says, it's the six seven of its day.
23 Skadoo.
Six, seven, okay.
Dude, what's your problem?
That's steady Eddie's second heart suggestion.
He's got an angry emoji there.
Pete could throw this tiny candy heart at crazy drivers on his Marinette to Green Bay commutes.
And believe me, I would Eddie.
It's terrible.
Police, police release me.
ankle bird hopper dig that steady Eddie's third suggestion great one five and six did you hear a seven eight nine oh my Love it.
I don't even think that would fit on a heart though
Yeah,
we're just playing here.
He says I like candy with an eye What does that mean stripper?
I like candy see a ending I
I
don't
know
the other one to be candy loves me So he is referring to a woman
Uh, he also has one that says movie nights.
I love that one.
And then he says, please be my popcorn pick.
Oh, that's so, that's romantic move music that we can play that.
That's so sweet.
Uh, not, I don't think I've, oh, wait, I do have one.
The moment is kind of past.
If you have something all set, go for it, but don't worry about
it.
I know romantic, right?
Sure.
I'll tell you this.
It's about as romantic as I want to get with Steady Eddie.
Yeah,
there you go.
Yeah.
Please be my popcorn pick.
Love that.
And then he says, pizza be with you.
Look at the thought that he put into these.
This is great.
Greenland be mine.
DJ T. Steady Eddie, you've outdone yourself.
This is nice.
He's been saving up.
I don't think we've heard from him in a while.
A couple nights.
Well, he wanted to wait for this question, obviously, because he gave us a novel.
This is fantastic.
Great stuff.
John in the 608 says, what weird frigging world are we living in, Peter?
Conrad is too young to know how crazy these times really are.
That was in reference to our discussion before about the hearts.
And he says, don't forget to update your candy profiles.
I
like that too, John.
I
know how crucial these times are with 6-7.
Correct.
I don't know what's going on in that house.
You got John's wife sending out eggplants.
You've got John talking about QR codes.
But you guys are awesome.
Thank you for the text.
Thank you all for the text and calls.
Our next segment is with Becky Ferrara.
She is coming up next and she's the author of First Contact, a great book, and we had a blast talking to her.
It's pre-recorded content.
We'll see you tomorrow night.
But enjoy this interview with Becky.
She's outstanding.
This is Pete Schwamba at Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Oh!
Hey, it's Sean Cassidy and you're listening to Nightlight with Pete Schwabba.
Welcome back.
All right.
Great to have you here folks on this chilly Thursday evening here.
Thursday, it's the Christmas Eve of weeknights here at Nightlight.
So we always have a good time on Thursday night.
And I'm very excited.
My next guest is an author and science reporter who recently wrote a book called First Contact, The Story of Our Obsession with Aliens.
And we are definitely obsessed.
Very excited to have her here on the show tonight.
This is a topic we've discussed on and off over the last couple years here at Nightlight.
She's been published in The New York Times, Vice Popular Mechanics, The Washington Post, and the MIT Technology Review.
They did not even return my phone calls.
It is my pleasure to welcome author Becky Ferrara.
Hi, Becky.
Hey, how you doing, Pete?
Doing very well.
It is great to have you here.
How are you tonight?
I'm great.
It's chilly here in upstate New York as well, chilly all around.
Oh, it's so beautiful there.
What a great place.
What a great place to be a writer from.
That just seems like it kind of is like a perfect place to go and write a book.
And maybe just because I've seen it in movies where authors like to be reclusive and write, but is that a good setting for you?
Yes, can complain.
Got a cowfield next to me.
Maybe you got a cowfield nearby too, I would imagine, in Wisconsin, right?
We've got a few of those, for sure.
But it is great to have you here.
So all right, tell us a little bit about this book, which you were nice enough to share with me.
I'm getting through it and it's really interesting stuff.
But for people that aren't familiar with your work, tell us a little bit about First Contact.
Yeah, absolutely.
And there's a lot of alien books out there because there's a lot of obsessed people out there.
And my aim was just to kind of make a very
short one-stop primer for kind of all of the different avenues that people come toward this subject.
I'm a science reporter who's been writing about aliens from like sort of the scientific search for life for 15 years.
So I do a lot of astrobiology and those kinds of things.
But over the years, you know, I would get emails from people who are in communities that are, you know, looking for UAP and UFOs and stuff like that.
And for people who are also really obsessed with pop cultural aliens, which are obviously like they're, they're just completely, they're more common than human characters these days.
So I just really wanted to have a sort of immersive look at like all of this stuff in one book, why we are so universally obsessed with this topic.
And hopefully just start a conversation between these different communities because despite the fact that we're all obsessed with aliens, people have very different values about it and beliefs about it.
And I think it would be great to be able to start having more cross conversations in these kind of siloed little communities.
that's interesting you said cross conversations because you've probably dealt with people who you know have such a limited movie version of what an alien would be that it must be hard to even you know indulge them and then you've probably got other people who are more scientific but maybe still a little conspiracy theory-ish I don't know how do you cipher through all those people
I don't think there's a perfect method and I think it's also very difficult right now because there is a lot of interesting stuff going on with UAP.
I don't believe personally that they, I don't think that the evidence has risen to the idea that they're alien.
However, you can't.
fault people for being really interested in weird unidentified stuff that is just being you know constantly seen like that is very interesting so I think that's why um and you know I would I would even say with people who are seeing it through more the pop cultural lens nobody knows what aliens will be like maybe they will turn out to be exactly like one of our pop cultural versions but you know maybe they could be something we can't possibly imagine so I do think that um you know uh it's it's a good idea to just be able to
uh to like talk across these kind of different lines and even for me as someone who's not as immersed in the sort of UAP community and all the lore around aliens that going back decades it's interesting for me to hear from people and just be like have a basic working knowledge of those theories right so even if I don't as ascribe to them myself
great answer um how did you become sort of interested in extraterrestrials I mean obviously you're a very scientific person you're a science reporter but when did you get
interested in aliens to the point where you wanted to start doing investigative reporting on them and writing a book about
them.
Right, totally.
Well, coming of age in the 90s, you don't have a choice.
You have the X-Files, you have Independence Day.
Yeah.
You know, you have contact.
It's just like there's no, there's no escaping it.
Star Trek next generation, all these things, right?
And every generation has a lot of alien kind of interesting fiction to read and stuff like that.
But it was like, you know, you can't really not be interested in it.
But as a science reporter, I think it's just an interesting question because what a strange data point to not have filled in.
I think it is a totally bizarre paradox that, you know, the Fermi paradox going back many decades of just, why should it be so special here on earth?
What is it, you know, this, there's no reason to think that this transition between non biological and biological shouldn't be happening other places.
And yet we find that we are
Confronted with silence in the universe and not you know in our neighboring planets Even though some were once habitable don't seem to have you know created life as well So I think it's just like an amazing scientific question.
We don't understand how life began here on earth to start with And we don't know the threshold for what life needs or if it could take very different forms Maybe it doesn't need DNA or you know in other life forms or whatever.
So I just find it to be
not just something that has entranced people for obvious reasons, because it's interesting to know if there would be other things out there, but also as a scientific data point, I don't feel like we can really understand our universe until we know that.
So not that I expect to necessarily know it within my lifetime, but...
There you
go.
It's great because in the book you talk about some of the more pop culture or more recent history with our obsession with aliens like Roswell, but you also go back thousands of years to a more primitive time when people first thought maybe there was extraterrestrial life.
In regard to Roswell, the incident happened in 1947.
What do you make of it?
You talk about this Air Force major, Jesse Marcell, I think his name was, who found wreckage of like a satellite or a US experiment, a government experiment, and didn't do anything.
Like they scooped it up, put it away, and all of a sudden, according to your book, he changed his mind 30 years later and said, oh, it was an extraterrestrial or there was something there.
Why did he do that?
I don't know.
And it's interesting because I don't want to, you know, a lot of people come to that conclusion and I don't want to cast aspersions on them or whatever about that they had ulterior motives or whatever.
I don't know.
Maybe he did believe that.
But like the official story with that, of course, is like that they did.
The government did lie about what they found, but that it was not an extra.
They weren't lying about an extraterrestrial visitor, right?
Like that it was just that it was a much more top secret mission that actually did crash.
And so.
I wish I knew the motivation and, you know, he believed that it was, you know, and he told the story to writers who wrote this very famous book about it and that became famous in the 80s.
So, yeah, I hate to, you know, give you such a non-answer, but I don't know.
And he's not around to tell us anymore, but it's very interesting.
It's a very interesting thing.
And a lot of people revisit and change their opinions on whether they, both ways, skeptics become believers, believers become skeptics.
It's just like, this is part of the kind of roiling nature of how evidence is evaluated in that sphere, right?
And how do you get, like, he got other people on board too who worked for the government who didn't necessarily say it didn't happen or that he was wrong.
They went with it.
How do you deal with conspiracy people within the government who you're supposed to trust?
Yeah.
Well, I think it's something that I wrestle with right now.
And I will put my cards on the table.
That's not my reporting talent.
For the chapters that refer to UAP, I have relied on other reporters who really are deep in that world.
And I just say that because I'm having a hard time right now with things like
the age of disclosure that just came out and a lot of talk about UAP and intimation that there's alien secrets, the government is keeping these alien secrets right now and it's like, I don't think that's good to speculate about without being able to produce evidence and yet there's a lot of former Pentagon officials that are doing that currently.
I don't know what the answer to that is and if there is this secret alien program, I think it
Just spill the beans, but I know that you know that they would say of course you can't because it's classified or whatever right so I'm relying very much on reporters in that sphere to try to evaluate that information I'm much better at like revaluing the scientific side But it's mysterious and it's as you mentioned this is not a new kind of thing like there have been people on the inside like insider accounts of this kind of
like the idea that aliens have visited Earth for decades, right?
So, yeah.
It's funny because you think if they actually did have aliens, they would, they would enter, they would have like a mixer, you know, some that get to know the aliens and like, it's all about bringing people together.
We'll need different theories about what kind of aliens would be, right?
True.
Like, and so like, you want, yeah, I would personally, I'm,
probably very gullible and be like let's be friends with the aliens but then there's like lots of people who believe the aliens are maligned right and there's all kinds of theories about what the aliens are want.
I kind of get into this a bit in a chapter about pop cultural aliens because we we do graft our own like uh kind of ideas about saviors and monsters and and all these things into uh how we expect aliens will come to us and the risks and benefits they might pose to us.
My guest is Becky Ferrara.
She is the author behind First Contact, a great book, First Contact, the story of our obsession with aliens.
And we are obsessed.
You know, what did you uncover in writing this book, Becky?
What were you most surprised to learn or not learn?
Yeah, you know, I think actually digging into the UAP history, I kind of always had this kernel like there's
there's a reason why people are so convinced by these ideas.
And it really did, when you have the history of governments kind of fudging lies about, you know, like saying that you didn't actually see anything when they knew very well, they had seen like an experimental spy craft and things like that.
I guess it wasn't, it didn't surprise me, but it was kind of interesting to actually read those accounts and be like, oh, yes, this is why there is this distrust that has happened, right?
I mean, this is just very...
nefarious stuff.
So that was interesting because I had never really delved into the deep history before.
And then I think also just the fact that people are just obsessed with aliens across cultures and as I kind of make this argument in the book, clearly tens of years into our prehistory.
I think the idea of sky gods and the fact that very clearly our ancestors, even as hunter-gatherers, understood
the skies to be a source of knowledge that you would use the stars as navigation and things like that and you tell stories to help you remember that kind of stuff and that is a first iteration of deciding that there is some kind of sentient entity in space and it kind of just gets winnowed down over time into our modern idea of aliens.
Boy, that's great.
I also noticed, I wanted to ask you, there was a 1994 event known as the 1994 Michigan UFO event.
I don't know if you remember this.
I was a
stand-up comedian driving through Michigan after a gig with another comic and we saw these lights and they did something on Unsolved Mysteries.
Are you familiar with that at all?
No, tell me more.
Well, it's just all these people.
in different parts of Michigan said they saw this at the same time, even some law enforcement people.
But anyway, they
never really figured out what exactly it was.
And I'm always like, well, the government was testing something or the Air Force or something.
That's where I always want to go.
But I was curious.
Unsolved Mysteries is kind of a cool show.
So I wanted to ask you about it and see if you were aware of it.
I would love to get your take on that.
Maybe you can come back though and we could discuss it sometime.
That would be really fun.
Yeah.
Well, you saw you witnessed this yourself.
We saw lights.
Yeah, but not like it was in the distance.
And we were like, oh, that's weird, you know, but we didn't
Chalk it up to anything and then we got home and we realized the next day or two days later There was this big thing
that people were reporting in Michigan.
And that's the closest I've ever come to.
And it was nothing.
I mean, I saw lights.
I'm not saying I saw anything or shook hands with an alien or anything like that.
But Becky Ferrera is my guest.
We're going to take a very short break here and we'll have a few more minutes with Becky when we come back.
And I'm going to ask her about her use of humor in the book because she does a great job with that.
And how can you not, folks, on this subject matter?
This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabber.
We're coming right back on the Civic Media Radio Network.
contact here.
First contact folks here at Night Light Tonight.
Great to have you with me.
I'm Pete Schwabba.
My guest is Becky Ferrera.
We have a few more minutes with Becky, who is the author of First Contact, the story of our obsession with aliens.
And it's a really good book.
I highly recommend you check it out if you're even remotely interested in this topic.
And like you said before, Becky,
I remember watching the X-Files and thinking how cool it would be if there was something out there, but also not wanting to stumble onto it myself.
It's just kind of a creepy, eerie thing.
Of all the conspiracy theories or theories you've heard, and maybe you uncovered some already in the book, what are the ones that are most likely to be realistic or true, in your opinion, as to the existence?
of the existence of aliens?
Because aliens are extraterrestrial life,
yeah.
For me, like I said in the previous segment, I adjudicate more the scientific side of it.
So by definition, a conspiracy theory is a different kind of evidence that I'm not good at evaluating.
And it's such a deep rabbit hole that you can get into with so many of these.
I do.
I mean, we talked about Roswell.
I do think the most parsimonious interpretation of that one is that that was like the top secret project mogul kind of balloon issue there.
But I mean, I don't.
I'm not convinced by the evidence that I've seen so far that, for example, we have a high bar of evidence that aliens have come to Earth at any point.
I know lots of people disagree with me on
that one.
That was my next question, actually.
Well, that's very much a growing.
A lot more Americans believe that than even 10 years ago.
It's gone from like a third to half.
So that is a very common.
But for me, I think the evidence, if there is, for example, as a lot of
of these in the age of disclosure and recent documentaries like that, these government officials intimating that there is a secret program that is hiding the evidence of aliens that have come to earth.
I won't believe that until I can have evidence that is adjudicated by an institution.
And I think that is a limiting way to do things, but that is the way that I do it.
I require peer review from experts in the area to tell me that that is like.
correct right um
that is so refreshing because most of the books are most of the people are just like oh no i saw one they exist and it's like well who are you and i remember the california wildfires everybody becoming a fire marshal expert all of a sudden on wildfire like i i may i want to trust people like you so much more when you say when you're just blatantly honest and you know and you haven't seen proof that is enough to convince you yet um you also use humor very well in the book was that a
conscious effort when you started out writing it?
Or did it just, is this like the kind of thing where you're like, how can I not be funny here sometimes?
It's, it's, I like, I've always liked using humor as part of science communication.
And, and it's my style.
Like I was very lucky that for 10 years, I was writing for vice's science vertical called motherboard, which was a really fun science site and super amazing team.
um and that and and they were fine with me you know where appropriate you know you don't want to make jokes uh about people's research and things like that but where appropriate being funny and often you know scientists are often very funny too depending on the research and they they might make jokes as well and just encouraging like um levity because i think that's such a great way to get people interested in topics that they might not
be interested in at the same time.
So that was already my natural writing style.
It's aliens.
We can do so much.
They appeal to our imagination, to our creativity, and to our humor, and to our fear response too.
There's really nothing you can't do with them.
And there's so many great comedies that involve aliens too.
It was definitely part of the book that I knew I wanted to have to help people kind of like relate to these topics.
Yeah.
It's just great.
You're very good at it.
Thank you.
Tell us a little bit about your newsletter 404, the abstract.
That sounds kind of cool.
Yeah, so some of the people from Motherboard have now created their own journalist-founded site, which I highly recommend, called 404media.
And it does a lot of fascinating tech reporting, and they're great reporters.
And I contribute to the science side of the site.
If you go up, go to 404media.co, you will find my newsletter there called The Abstract, which is a roundup of the studies I found most interesting every week.
And I also have my own personal newsletter called The Bex Files, B-E-X Files.Ghost.
I believe I should probably memorize that.
Ghost.io.
Sorry, it's a newer one that I'm running, but that's just it's mostly aliens because I remain obsessed.
So it's mostly news about aliens, mostly from a scientific or pop cultural kind of a viewpoint because I feel that that's sort of where my
like I said my expertise lies so I'll catch all the new studies that are about astrobiology and things like that.
We have about a minute left and this is unfair but I'm gonna ask you to squeeze in an answer to two questions in a minute.
What is your favorite Hollywood film or TV show regarding aliens and then what does it mean in your book when you say you thank your parents for all the fish?
Okay.
Well, I think probably my, my favorite movie, uh, just came out recently called Nope, which I really recommend.
It's a great alien movie.
Um, and it's hard not to put Star Trek next generation in there too, but what can you do?
Um, and then thanks for all the fish.
That's a reference to Douglas Adams is hitchhikers guide series, uh, which I was really raised on.
It also has a lot of fascinating aliens.
So as you can see, I really had no choice but to be interested in it, but my parents are two Brits who love Douglas Adams.
So that was
basically that radio play was on all the time.
And so it's kind of a little fun.
I love it.
Have you seen the show just a few seconds, a three body problem?
Oh, yeah, I tried to get I read the books.
I tried to
get
into the show.
What did you think?
I the show, it took me a while to get going on it, but I really liked it.
I can't wait for season two.
But let's discuss that when you come back next time.
I would love to have you back and do more of a deep dive into the stuff.
Congrats on the book.
incredible achievement and a very good read.
Please don't be a stranger, Becky, and keep up the great work.
Pete, it was so much fun.
Thank you for having me.
I appreciate
it.
You got it.
Thank you for our folks.
Check out first contact.
It's such a great book and you'll love reading, especially if you're even the least bit obsessed with aliens.
I'd like to thank all my guests tonight, Joe Schwabba for his movie review, Adam Hess for making the popcorn pick of the week, and my guest Becky Ferrera.
And thank you for all your calls and texts.
Another fun night here at Nightlight.
We will be back to do it all again tomorrow on behalf of the lovable producer Conrad.
I'm Pete Schwabba saying good night, Wisconsin.