Coaches, Cinemas, and Cinematic Surprises (Hour 2)

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Coaches, Cinemas, and Cinematic Surprises (Hour 2)

Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Wed Jan 14, 2026

Kathryn Lake

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This is Night Light with Pete Schwabach.

Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now, a guy who once tore his ACL playing chess, Pete Schwabba.

Hey, welcome back to

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Nightlight, folks.

It is time for Act 2 here on a Wednesday night.

In the beautiful state of Wisconsin, it is great to have you with me tonight.

Wherever you're joining us from, welcome.

Lots of fun here tonight.

If you missed the first hour of the show, we talked to Marv Wall, a guy with a really cool name.

Dom, would you agree?

I would.

Like I said, I got to get a beer with him.

He agreed, too.

So, you know, this is a

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win-win.

Yeah, now it's awkward.

Who's

going

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to take that first step?

Yeah, and then he just left.

No, he was a lot of fun to talk to.

And that is the voice of Dom Lee, who is filling in for Conrad tonight.

I just confirmed what Conrad has.

Conrad is out sick tonight.

As it turns out, he has gigantism.

That's a tough one.

I don't know that he'll be back tomorrow.

It takes a while to kick it and to have everything come back into shape and size.

But if anyone can do it, the guy who can bench almost 300 pounds can do it.

Conrad will be just fine, folks.

No need to worry about Conrad.

So we'll confirm that too.

There might be an update later in the show as to what Conrad is battling.

My guess is it's kind of what I have, but maybe a little worse, scratchy throat, cold cough, that kind of stuff.

Here's the season and Conrad get well soon.

Dom Lee, it is great to work with you again.

And let's make this, you know, we're talking about coaches tonight.

Let's make this a Notre Dame moment where we tap the sign and say, let's let's do radio like a champion for the second hour.

Third hour, we can slack off, but let's let's really kick some ass to second hour.

Let's do it.

Let's

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do it.

I'm good.

Okay.

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So if you missed the first hour folks check it out at civicmedia.us Marv Wall was here He was a lot of fun to talk about and that Malva Cultural Center in downtown Green Bay is just a really cool cool space.

So definitely check that out.

We also Discussed dangerous sports water polo who knew was dangerous and darts as well because there is alcohol involved

My guest this hour is my guest, I should say, is Jim Healy.

He will be here at 6.35.

Jim is one of the programmers of UW Cinematheque, which is at Vilas Hall.

It is a free program.

Check it out, folks.

It's right there in Madison, and they bring in some outstanding films, some great prints, some restored classics.

They have it all there, and they occasionally have great Q&As as well.

It's like a year-long film festival.

experience right there at UW Cinema Tech.

Jim is also one of the programmers of the Wisconsin Film Festival and he is a big time cinephile.

So we're gonna talk movies with Jim at 635.

Later in the show, Patty Vasquez, very funny comedian will be here and she is now also a columnist and a radio host and I think she is a plumber.

I'm kidding.

She does all kinds of stuff though, folks.

It'll be great to have Patty here and that's at 720.

And I think con or con.

Oh, look what I did.

Oh, man.

You

know, I'm

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sorry.

It's Dom, con.

It's those two are I encourage one of you to change because common Don, I don't know.

You just did this to Dom.

I

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know.

No,

I

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didn't.

Oh, I knew you were going to say something there.

I knew you were going to say it.

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Listen, that cracks me up.

I saw what South Park did with six, seven a couple of weeks ago when I watched the season finale.

Hilarious my wife is a kindergarten teacher even the kindergarten kids are getting into the six seven stuff and they go six seven

if anything they're getting in more to it than you know 20 to 30 or higher 20 higher I mean every younger generation kid is just that's that's they're getting obsessed with it it's too much it's way too much

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you know it's really strange because my wife is a kindergarten teacher

And she says that she kind of talks and for those of you not watching on the stream, we're moving our hands like kind of up and down each hand.

That's the sign, the universal symbol for the phrase six, seven.

And my wife talks like that automatically and these kindergartners will give each other looks like side eyes like she's doing six, seven like.

Kindergarteners cracking up and that cracks me up.

I think it's a really funny thing

if I was a kindergartner I would be doing the same thing, you know, I

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absolutely know It's

a good

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deal to look forward to during the day a snack and that come on get some six seven action But let's reintroduce our nightlight question of the night

Let's talk about the question.

Okay, question.

Question.

Question.

Pregunta.

Question.

Question.

Okay, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

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Domanda.

Question.

Question.

Questions.

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Who is your favorite coach?

And just to reiterate, folks, it could be a real coach, college, pro, any sport, high school, you name it.

Maybe a coach you had.

A fictional coach, like coach from Cheers.

Coach Carter, coach, uh, what was his name in, uh, remember the Titans or the coach from Rudy?

Whatever.

Gene Hackman from Hoosiers.

That's a great coach.

Let us know what your favorite, who your favorite coach was.

Uh, you can let us know on the text line at 855-752-4842-855-75 Civic.

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We'd like to read stream comments as well And we love that there are people out there viewing the radio.

That's always fun, too So let us know we've got some clips here, too.

We Dom I got his name right this time.

I didn't call Conley.

That's a great sounding

name.

Yes.

I gotta I gotta meet with Conrad and talk about that.

Yeah, that's good.

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That sounds better than

Dom Krieger, although Dom Krieger sounds kind of cool too.

People say Dominic, you know, you can just switch the full government name if you want.

It's up to you.

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All right, let's hear one of these clips.

I tasked Dom with finding great coach clips, and I recommended Bobby Knight because he's always a good one.

The other one is Dennis Green and you found, well, let's start with the one you found.

Okay,

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all right.

Tell us about this

clip.

Yeah, this is Mike Gundy.

I think he was an Oklahoma State football coach.

I don't remember the exact date, but he was mad at the media press for, you know, kind of harping down on his young players and he wanted it to harp down on himself.

So let's take a listen.

That's why I don't read the newspaper.

because it's garbage.

And the editor that let it come out is garbage.

Attacking an amateur athlete for doing everything right.

And then you want to write articles about guys that don't do things right and downgrade them, the ones that do make place.

Are you kidding me?

Where are we at in society today?

Come after me.

I'm a man.

I'm 40.

I'm not a kid.

Write something about me or our coaches.

I'm writing about a kid that does everything right.

That's hearts broken.

And then say that the coach has said he was scared.

That ain't true.

And then to say that we made that decision because Donovan was because he threatened to transfer, that's not true.

So get your facts straight.

And I hope someday you have a child and somebody downgrades them and belittles them and you have to look them in the eye and say, you know what, it's OK.

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There we go.

I actually love that I sticking up for his players.

That's great.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Yeah, I I loved it I and I there's an iconic little piece in there, you know, I'm 40, you know, I'm you know talk to me I thought that was really funny.

I just thought it was lovely

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Yeah, I love a cup first of all any coach with a southern accent goes up a couple points are always more fun to listen to and I just love that he stuck up for his players like that We've got a text from the 715 Christie says Ted lasso

I'm not surprised we heard Ted Lasso.

People love Ted Lasso.

Great choice, Christie, and thank you for listening.

Hope everything is doing great there in Eau Claire tonight.

It's great to have you.

608 says Tony Dungey.

Totally classy.

That's a great one, too.

Super Bowl winner.

Dom, do you remember that Super Bowl?

Do I?

Briefly briefly again not not not not terribly, but I remember I remember a little bit.

Yeah beat our

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bears

Yeah, that's six.

That was try to forget about it.

You

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know, yeah, that's right And it was kind of you know, it's really weird Peyton Manning.

I know people love the guy.

I'm fine with him I don't love him, but like he's got two Super Bowl rings

unbelievable

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But in a Super Bowl in a big game, I would take his brother Eli took the Super Bowl

They want his teams won because of his play.

Peyton Manning kind of backed in.

I don't know if you remember this, but in 0-6 the Bears beat themselves.

They fumbled.

Cedric Benson fumbled.

Rex Grossman threw a pick.

It was raining.

And Indy won.

They won the game.

No question.

It wasn't because of Peyton Manning.

Same thing with when he went to Denver.

So great regular season quarterback.

Decent quarterback in the playoffs, but I would take his brother.

I

like that I 100% agree with you, you know in Denver They had what one of the best defenses ever assembled.

Yeah, you know, so that makes it makes a plea Miller.

Yeah, I'm absolutely so

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That's a great great choice six away.

Thank you.

Tony Dungey is a is a classy dude 715 says John Ratzenberger.

Oh, this is in relation and regard what we were talking about earlier with Zoe Saldana being the highest grossing movie actor ever

715 says John Ratzenberger is the third highest grossing actor of all time, mainly because of his many voice over roles in Pixar movies and his brief appearance in The Empire Strikes Back.

I did not know he was in The Empire Strikes Back.

But yeah, he was in the Toy Story movies and very funny too, John Ratzenberger.

Of course, I like him as Cliff Clavin, who played opposite his counterpart Coach, who is Coach Ernie Pantuso from Cheers is probably my all-time favorite.

fictional coach Uh, you got another clip for us down.

Let's hear the uh, is the bobby night one good?

Let's hear the bobby night one.

Yeah, let's hear

I only got two people.

They're gonna tell you I'm not gonna be here one is our SID and the other is me Who the hell told you I wasn't gonna be here.

I'd like to know do you have any idea who it was?

Who?

They were from Indiana, right?

No, they're not no weren't from Indiana and you didn't get it from anybody from Indiana, did you?

I'll handle this the way I want to handle it now that I'm here you up to begin with

Now just sit there or leave.

I don't give a what you do.

Now back to the game.

Who's got a question?

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He was such a jerk, but he's a good coach.

Yeah, he sounded terrible.

I wouldn't want to

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talk to him at all.

Oh, he's he's awful.

But he's look, the guy you can't argue with success.

I mean, he was a great coach for his time.

That guy, he would not be a coach by modern day standards.

He was just too.

I mean,

It would hit his players and stuff like that.

He would hit his problems.

Oh Yeah, he would totally Yeah, he had some issues.

He was like kind of a coach of the 60s and 70s maybe the coached into the 80s maybe in the 90s, but he was He kind of mellowed out as he got older, but he was very volatile.

That's Bobby Knight and We've got Monica from Mount Horrib says couldn't narrow it down to just one flip Wilson

in the fish that saved Pittsburgh.

Wow.

Monica, great pull.

Basketball movie.

I saw it in the theater in the late, it's probably early 80s when that came out.

Walter Mathau in the Bad News Bears.

That is a great one as well.

And Tom Hanks in a league of their own.

That is the text of the night.

Monica from Mount Horrib.

Thank you very much.

Totally forgot about Flip Wilson.

in the fish that saved Pittsburgh, which is also one of the greatest movie titles in history.

608, this is, oh, this is Mark from Prairie to Sac says Lombardi was not only a great coach, he was a great human being.

He integrated his team and insisted that his players of all colors be treated equally.

He also supported gay rights.

That is correct.

Mark, excellent text and pardon me, another great quality about Vince Lombardi being just kind of ahead of the curve there too, in addition to being a great coach.

Kerry from Tosa and the 414 says Ted Lasso as well.

People love their Ted Lasso.

You watch Ted Lasso, Dom?

I have a little bit, yeah.

And that makes sense.

That's why we're getting so many feedback.

He's a great coach.

What can I say?

What can I say?

I gotta

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say, this is not a popular stance.

All right, when we come back, I'm going to tell you what I think about that.

Not as a coach.

And I'm also going to tell you about some really cool records that you might not know.

We're set here in Wisconsin and we'll finish reading our text.

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This is a night light with peach wabba folks great to have you with me on this Wednesday night Dom Lee and I are having some fun here tonight in Conrad's absence We did get a text about Conrad's condition.

We'll update you here briefly Pardon me Tyler from Wisconsin Rapid says he heard Conrad's bubble blower backfired and he ballooned like the blueberry girl in the movie Willy Wonka and the chocolate

I Don't maybe that's true.

I can't confirm that though Tyler also says John candy and cool runnings.

Wow nice pull.

That's a great text.

Thank you Tyler and we've got Here we go Todd or Billy From the 401 for us is probably coach Taylor from Friday night lights the series I never watched that

Friday night lights you watch that Tom

I've I've I've watched it once.

I don't quite remember it, but I watched it with my dad way back.

It's it is a really good movie

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Is that the movie or is that the show?

That's the movie, right?

Friday night light.

It was both I think at the movie I think they turned it into a series after that Cindy if you're listening call back I did I missed a Dom's message So we'll get you on if you can call back in the next few minutes before we bring Jim Healy on at 635 Jim was here to talk movies

And about what's coming up at the wisconsin film festival and uw cinema tech We always love when jim joins us to talk movies and there is no one better to do it with than jim haley so um We have one more coach clip and this is a great one.

This is denis green After his arizona cardinals lost to the chicago bears in like and i don't think the bear scored an offensive touchdown his team collapsed And you can hear it in his voice.

Here's denis green

Four picks against Grossman and two fumbles.

What do you see about the Bears?

Shut them down that way.

No, you know what I mean.

The Bears are what we thought they were.

What we thought they were.

We played them in preseason.

Who the hell takes a third game in a preseason like a bull?

We played them a third game.

Everybody played three quarters.

The Bears

are who we thought they were.

That's why we took the damn field.

But they are who we thought they were.

And we let them out the

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hook.

Wow.

Ouch.

I mean, I can't even imagine losing a game like that.

I remember that game.

But we've got, that's our question of the night, folks.

Who is your favorite coach?

And going to social media, Dave Hendrick, my pal Dave Hendrick on Facebook says, Ernie Pantuso, coach, love coach.

Mike Mercury, Madison Bay stand-up comedian says, coach.

Craig T. Nelson from the show, coach.

Eric Rassack from Ask Your Mother also says,

He was going to say Craig T. Nelson as well.

You can say that, Eric.

You can all share these coaches.

Matt Harper also says, oh, he says Kyle Chandler as Coach Taylor from Friday Night Lights.

Another one for Friday Night Lights.

Comedian Boris Hamilton, listening from Los Angeles, says Phil Jackson.

We talked about Phil Jackson a little earlier.

PJ, as Michael Jordan used to call him.

Tim Baker says Don Knott's in Gus.

I don't think I ever saw Gus.

I don't think I have either.

And then Tony on social media posted a picture of a purse that says coach Looks like a leave a ton

bag, maybe

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Erika Larson says Jim Mora and posted a meme of that crazy Jim Mora when he kept saying playoffs It's always great.

However, you guys reach us social media text stream app.

It's all great Bridget in the 818 says Phil Jackson.

He is smart and cool

Kind of a hippie too.

So he was good coach.

No question about that.

Thank you Bridget for the text So Dom here are some records you might not know that were set in Wisconsin I saw this on up north news love the work they do there Ellie Bordeaux is coming back on the show soon.

She is one of the reporters for up north news but These are records that were set in Wisconsin that you probably didn't know about and The first one I'm gonna say this is number seven if you go to up north news wi.com

the most llamas pulling a carriage.

That's probably why you moved to Wisconsin, right, Don?

What?

I didn't even know that was a real thing.

Like, what's

going on?

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This is so crazy.

Last night, we had the Green Bay llama, Jason Jerry on the show.

And I thought llama in Green Bay, and this was a real thing.

Mayor Jim Schmidt walked a llama over the bridge.

So Jason started a Facebook group called the Society of the Llama or something like that.

A weird thing to associate with Wisconsin, but number seven on this up north news list says most llamas pulling a carriage.

It's unusual to see any llamas in Wisconsin in general, especially when there are 56 of them at once.

I mean,

I gotta see this.

I gotta see this for myself.

That is a

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strafford.

Stratford, Wisconsin resident was able to hitch 56 llamas as well as eight ponies to a cart.

and break the world record for most llamas pulling a carriage.

I mean, of all the records to aim for.

Listen, that's the one to hit, you know?

That's the one that I would love that record, get me?

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The question is, were the llamas doing this against their will?

What if they didn't want anything to do with this record?

Here's another one.

Number 10, most siblings to compete in a marathon.

It was the Capral family.

And the siblings that Oshkosh natives ranged in ages from 18 to 44 and all completed a marathon 26.2 mile racing under six hours.

That's a pretty cool one.

They went to Oshkosh lords Academy.

They were always good at sports when I was in high school too.

Here's another one.

This was not a surprise.

Largest cheese platter board.

Is it any surprise that Wisconsin is home to a cheese based world record?

It is not.

America's Dairyland is well known for its cheese production, so it makes sense that the state could produce the largest ever cheesebladder port.

The board was put together by Dairy Farmers of Wisconsin, a non-profit organization based in Madison that markets and promotes Wisconsin dairy products.

Do you like cheese, Dom?

Love cheese.

I that's the whole reason why I actually moved here, you know because I'm also originally from Chicago But cheese is kind of what got me even though I do Have a celiac disease.

It doesn't matter.

I'm still really I do.

Yes.

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Is there gluten in cheese?

Um, there is I think probably okay.

I didn't know that yeah, I should all I know is I was recently diagnosed so you know oh Sorry to hear that maybe that's

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what Conrad has

that's you know what I've got to ask about that too

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That doesn't work though, because you're here and you have it.

All right, we are coming right back.

Jim Healy is on the way, folks.

We're talking movies after the news.

It's Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio

Network.

Pete Schwaba

Welcome back.

I am Pete Schwab, but this is Nightlight.

This is a Wednesday evening edition of the show, folks, but we're going a little farther.

We have to because Conrad, we are a man down.

Conrad is sick, and I just got word from another source, Dom.

Conrad has alien hand syndrome.

So it's not gigantism.

It's not celiacs.

It's not the pigs flu.

He has got alien hands.

I don't even know what that is.

We're going to get to the bottom of it.

I hope that means he can work the board tomorrow night.

But if not, you need to be in the bullpen.

We're just going through the whole whole lines

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of things that could be wrong with them.

There are probably HIPAA restrictions on this, but that's not for me to say.

You know, I'm surprised we haven't heard Mike McCarthy.

We heard Holmgren and this is Wisconsin.

For whatever reason maybe it was Aaron Rodgers, but my McCarthy I don't think is as popular as he should be and by all accounts I've heard he is a great guy And he delivered a Super Bowl to Green Bay, but you know, maybe there are McCarthy fans out there and they just haven't responded in any event Let's get to our next guest of the night.

Very excited to welcome this next gentleman He is one of our frequent flyers here.

We love to talk movies with this next guy.

He is one of the programmers of UW Cinema Tech

and the Wisconsin Film Festival, and I believe he also coached the Packers for a stint in the early 60s, but we'll get to the bottom of that as well.

Mr. Jim Healy joins us now over the stream.

Hey, buddy.

Hey, call me Vince Lombardi.

Vince Lombaly, I think, is, you got to get that Irish out there, Jim, you know.

Vince Lombago.

There you go.

How are you tonight, Jim?

I'm very well.

Thank you.

How are

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you?

Great to have you here.

I'm doing very well.

Do you have a favorite coach, Jim, speaking of coaching?

No, we've talked before about the number of movies I see every year,

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because I

brag about it.

It's one of the things I do.

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And one of the

reasons is, well, I almost never mentioned this, but one of the reasons why I'm able to get my numbers up

So, hi, I watch almost no professional sports at all at home.

I go to sports.

I go to Badgers games here, football, basketball, hockey, volleyball, and I went to three MLB games last year, and I

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enjoy it.

I enjoy it live, but I don't follow it at all.

I can't get caught up.

And

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I

probably could if I started to, but that's just, you know, it's just one of the things.

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So I

watched 700 movies a year, you

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know.

Well, the sports would cut into that because like, here's where I'm at with sports.

I can only watch my team now.

And if there's a great game on between two Titans, whether it's the game seven of the World Series or an NFL playoff game, I'll watch the last few minutes because that's great drama.

And that's you just.

It's like car chases.

You don't know the ending.

Like typically in movies, usually you see the ending coming.

That's not the case with sports.

So I'll always have like a thing for sports, but I'm with you.

I cannot just sit and watch a game.

The commercials drive me crazy.

And another

thing,

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I don't ever need to hear a coach talk again after a game unless they're crazy or outlandish, heard it, seen it, you're not going to impress me.

Throw in a chair.

Well, that's different.

Yeah.

You know, I love it.

It's very dramatic.

You know, I just see it.

And I even see the drama of the full season and the suspense in that.

But I just, it's just, it's never been in my folks.

Everybody in my family, father sports, all my brothers, my father, you know, all my cousins and aunts and uncles, but I just never, it just, you know, just always got in the way of movie watching.

So I

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don't read

it.

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And let's let's tip on my hat.

Here's why I prefer movies typically is because I know what I'm getting I'm gonna see especially if it's a movie I've seen before and I know that sounds like well Why would you put that above a great sporting event or something?

Well a movie I've seen before I obviously if I'm watching it again, I love it I love everything about it typically and I know what I'm getting

But you value surprise especially well

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sure

in both it's something in something

you haven't seen before, right?

But also in the surprise of how you're going to feel seeing something you've seen before and loved, you know, how are you going to react to it this time?

Are you able to watch it with somebody like one of your kids and see it through their eyes?

And is it that much more exciting?

Does it reveal itself more to you than it did whenever you last saw it one, five, 10 years ago, whatever?

And that's the best.

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That's the best and you're right like with your kids like I just watched once upon a time in Hollywood recently with my daughter who had never seen it and you they pick up things that you didn't pick up and it's it's like and I'm amazed Jim the sign of a great movie to me is when I have seen it before I know how it ends and I still feel the tension like in a scene like

for example

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and once upon a time in Hollywood that scene where Brad Pitt is talking to Bruce Dern on the

on the

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spawn movie, right?

It's so great.

I know what

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happens

Yeah, yeah, you know that was supposed to be Bert Reynolds

Oh Almost

almost right up until they they were shooting and Bert it was right before he died and he was he was getting sick and oh No, and yeah, he was gonna play spawn so Bruce Stern came in at the last minute and did a

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favor for that's little tidbits and I you know

To be honest, Burt Reynolds probably would have been great at that.

Oh yeah, I would have loved to have seen him in that.

And it would have been his last movie, what I wanted to go out on.

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I saw a show, Jim.

I'm getting off on a tangent here, but since Burt Reynolds has been brought up, it was a one-man show of some writer.

Years and years ago, right after I had moved to LA, a guy in my building had tickets.

He was like the Mike DeMone of my apartment building.

Mike DeMone, of course, from Best Times at Ridgemont High, but he got all these tickets.

So we went and saw this writer who had written on all these great shows, and he had phenomenal stories.

And one of them was about Bert Reynolds.

And he said, he was doing punch-up on Smokey and the Bandit.

And he was in Bert Reynolds' trailer.

They were working on the script together, and they broke for the day.

And he said, I'm leaving.

And Bert Reynolds says, we're having a party later.

Come on by.

And Frank Sinatra was also in Smokey and the Bandit.

I think if I got a

cannonball run to

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or cannonball run, that's what it was.

Yeah,

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same difference.

Anyway, he said He goes, you know what?

Frank Sinatra is having something to I really want to meet Sinatra and I just want to go to that But thanks for the invitation and Bert Reynolds looked at him in all seriousness and said Sinatra is not where the heats at baby

That is the one thing I remember for that show.

It has always stuck with me and I can totally hear Bert Reynolds saying that.

I love it.

Yeah, he was a

giant star.

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Oh, he was huge.

Yeah.

And there was that time where Sinatra wasn't, he reached his peak fame and people kind of go away.

Not that he ever was unpopular, but then he has a resurgence.

And you kind of understand why he said that.

The story I heard about Bert Reynolds recently speaking of roles he didn't play was that.

James L. Brooks, who had written a film in 1979, which won a Bert Reynolds best performance, is called Starting Over.

It's a movie where Bert shaves his mustache off, so you know it's of high quality.

It's a very good movie, but James L. Brooks didn't direct it, and he was about to make his directorial debut with Terms of Endearment.

He wrote Terms of Endearment.

He wrote the part of Garrett, the astronaut for Bert Reynolds.

Wow and

Bert Reynolds turned it down to do stroker ace I think

Pete Schwaba

That's like a stepchild to a cannonball

Exactly, I think it's the year before I think those were his next two consecutive movies were And

Pete Schwaba

now that you just mentioned James L Brooks I have another okay, so a friend of mine

We had Clippers tickets.

We were going to sit in a luxury box.

Nobody cares about the LA Clippers.

We're like, oh, let's go eat the food and sit in the luxury box.

It'll be great.

So my friend Jeff Lewis was with us and he thought he saw Leonard Malton.

He got all in a lather.

He was blushing.

He's like, oh my god, Leonard Malton.

That's Leonard Malton right up there.

It turns out it was James L. Brooks, not Leonard Malton.

And he's like, oh, and he wasn't as impressed for some

reason.

Yeah, Brooks has got the Oscars.

Pete Schwaba

He's got everything.

He's a giant.

You know, it's so great.

Did you see his new movie, by

the

Pete Schwaba

way?

I did see it.

I did see it.

And it's a disappointment.

But it's still interesting.

It's worth seeing.

I know you and I are both mutual fans of Albert Brooks.

His

frequent.

James L Brooks is frequent collaborator no relation, but the best scene in the movie is in the last You know 20 minutes of the film and it's a scene between the the leading lady Ella Mac Emma Mackey and and Albert Brooks and it's it's great.

It's almost worth seeing the movie for Really?

But it's it's just it gets this feeling as soon as you start watching it

like the narration kicks in and there's all this music kind of making up for things and there's so many characters and you just get the feeling that there was probably a three-hour movie not necessarily one that was better and they you know they cut it down to make make it whatever it is and it just feels like you know feels like patched together yeah it never really gels you know

Pete Schwaba

You know, that's, that's interesting.

I have not seen it when it, when I heard it was coming out, I was like, oh, this will be, I'm really curious to see this, but I hate when I wait and hear things that are disappointing.

Cause then I don't go see it, you know?

Yeah.

No, nothing would have stopped me from seeing, he's a major filmmaker and he hadn't made a movie for 15 years.

Hey, I think he's 85 years old.

I

don't

know how many more he's got in him if he's even going to try.

So, you know, I was very curious about it.

You know anything about

Pete Schwaba

Sorry what Jim say that again.

Oh Sorry, he did a movie in 1994 called I'll do anything.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, yeah, I saw that years

ago Nick Nolte Yeah, so the movie that came out with Nick Nolte Albert Brooks Julie Kavanaugh, Jolie Richardson

It's a, Tracy Elman, it's a comedy about actors and filmmakers in Hollywood, fighting the whole idea of like test screenings and test audiences who, you know, who can say yay or nay to a movie.

Brooks shot the whole movie as a musical with full musical numbers by Prince, Sinead O'Connor, Carol King,

all these like top songwriters and at the last minute just before release ditched all of the musical numbers cut them all out got nervous because of a bad because of a bad test screening and release the movie without anything and about 10 years ago he was he was mentioning that he was thinking about re-releasing it with the with the numbers back in but Prince I guess had more more say at that point and put the kibosh on it

Pete Schwaba

Would love to see it.

I don't remember much about the move I remember kind of liking it, but I honestly it was I don't remember much about it at all I the movie we were talking about before for those of you interested is LMK and Yeah, just did not perform well, and I'll see it eventually Jim, but I'm not gonna rush out to the theaters I guess when it gets like that

It's probably just just as good on on Hulu or wherever it's gonna be.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah

Exactly.

My guest is Jim Healy.

He joins us periodically to talk about movies.

And Jim, we've got about, you know what, let's just keep this till after the break.

I'd love to hear what you have coming up at Cinematheque.

And if you have anything, you can tell us about the Wisconsin Film Festival.

And then we'll get into some movies and potential Oscar movies.

Great night.

Jim Healy is here.

And in the 920, Herb Brooke is 920's coach.

And that's Stan from Depeer.

Miracle on ice.

Yes, of course.

OK, that was a great.

He says best sports speech ever, and that was outstanding.

We have had some outstanding choices here tonight.

We are coming right back with Jim Healy.

It's Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media radio network.

Kathryn Lake

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Pete Schwaba

I like it, Dom.

Good choice, buddy.

Hey, this is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba.

Great night to be here.

Conrad is out.

Dom Lee is bravely filling in for Conrad who has some serious illness that we are still trying to get to the bottom of.

But the good thing is Jim Healy is here.

Folks from joining us over the stream from Madison, a fantastic cinephile and one of the programmers of UW Cinematheque.

and the Wisconsin Film Festival.

Jim, what is coming up that you could tell us about at UW Cinematheque?

And in your opinion, do people take advantage of that enough, this Cinematheque program?

Well, enough for me would be, our regular Cinematheque theater is only 170 seats and enough for me would be a full house every night or maybe just enough empty seats to accommodate

just just about everybody.

Sure.

And you know and it's it's not like that but we're doing you know increasing numbers as the years and months have gone by especially since we returned to in-person screenings after COVID and regularly now our average attendance is two-thirds full.

Now we start our seasons with the premiere series

So on Thursday night, we're screening new films that are making their first area theatrical screenings in Madison, and you can see them for free.

And a lot of times they're, you know, titles that are, you know, very much high profile movies that are being well reviewed.

from and coming off a hot festival circuit run.

So, you know, for instance, we ended the season in December with The Secret Agent, which is this terrific new movie from Brazil.

Oh, it's great.

And it's a real cinephiles movie, too.

About 20% of the movie takes place within

the projection booth and the room's just adjacent to it in the

movie

theater in Recife, Brazil.

But that's showing the Omen in 1977, by the

way.

Oh,

no.

But we're starting our next season a week from tomorrow.

That's the 22nd with a movie called Surat.

It's a French-Spanish co-production directed by the French director Olivier Lax.

And it's been called, you know, it's been on many top 10 lists for 2025.

Justin Chang, who writes on film for the New Yorker and reviews for NPR called it the best movie of the year.

So I think that's the kind of show where we can expect a full house.

And, you know, I recommend arriving early because sometimes nights like that were full up before showtime.

We have to turn some people away, but most of the time, not.

There's almost always an empty seat.

Pete Schwaba

That's great.

What about

to get there by showtime?

Otherwise, we don't like letting stragglers

Pete Schwaba

get locked out.

What about the Wisconsin Film Festival, Gem?

I imagine things are ramping up and you're making your decisions and all that kind of stuff.

Is there anything, I know it's early, but it's coming up fast.

Is there anything you can tell us about this year's festival ahead of time?

I'm trying to think if there's anything I can leak.

And I don't think there is.

The things are, you're correct.

Things are being confirmed.

We're booking things.

one film at a time, sometimes two or three films at a time, working out deals.

And we're actively looking at things.

We're doing our last festival visits to check things out.

But we like to keep our titles under wraps.

I can tell you there's gonna be another great balance of new movies from around the world.

of all lengths, short, some features, and then a healthy representation of rediscoveries, restorations, films from throughout cinema history that hopefully will be either something completely new and revealing for you, or something you've seen before that will be just as revealing the second time you see

Pete Schwaba

it, or the third or

fourth.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, did you see the threesome from last year's?

I just caught up with it.

I was one of the last movies I saw on 2025.

I watched it on Netflix.

Very good director, Chad Hartigan.

It really, really tells, it was a good, it was a surprising film.

I

was also really, I was also really kind of, I liked the fact that it, it felt like a smart conventional, not conventional, but smart.

traditional romantic comedy.

But on an Indian films budget, it looked

Kathryn Lake

great.

The dialogue was snappy.

All the acting was great.

But it's all filmed in Little Rock, Arkansas.

Oh,

Pete Schwaba

is that right?

Oh, I didn't know

that.

Yeah, I think it might be where the filmmaker is from, but really entertaining movie.

you know, one of those things where you really don't know where it's going from start to finish.

Pete Schwaba

I loved it.

I thought it was, I'm not a rom-com guy.

I mean, I like a good rom-com.

I don't seek them out.

I thought that one, that one kind of blew me away.

There's a big twist in it.

And then the writing, I thought was very thoughtful with what happens after the twist, really dug it and it had an indie feel.

And I think I liked that about it too.

Jim Healy is here, folks.

We are going to break for the news, and I hope you can stick with us, Jim, because we haven't even gotten to the movies yet.

So we'll do a few more minutes with Jim after the break, and we'll talk about what he thinks might be in the prime position for an Oscar this year, as well as some other stuff that we've watched.

J.B.

Craig Canit on the stream says it may be a bit narcissistic, but I'm a big fan of coach Sam Johnson in Rise of Dear Mageddon.

J.B.

Thompson says I would second Craig's opinion.

Local indie film there.

So good good shout out and good plug guys.

Well done very well done feel my face We're coming back with Jim Healy Patty Vasquez coming up at 720 lots to come in act 3 it's Beach Wabba and nightlight on the civic media radio network

Kathryn Lake

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