Spiders, Sitcoms, and Card Games (Hour 1)

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Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay, this is Night Light with Peach Wabba.

Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now, a guy who appreciates a nice hot meal at a fair price, Pete Schwabach.

Damn right.

Especially on a day like this.

Welcome to Night Light, ladies and gentlemen.

It is so great to have you here on this festive Monday, the classic fantastic Monday between Christmas and New Year's.

Hope everybody had a good Christmas and is having a fantastic holiday season.

We are between holidays and we...

Just take a breath.

And then it's New Year's Eve, Con.

How you doing?

I'm doing fantastic.

Are you going to have a new Conrad has a new apartment, folks?

Yeah.

Feel free to phone lines are always open, as you know.

So

feel free to send Conrad a nice apartment housewarming text, if you will.

That'd be great.

I can put them all over my apartment.

Do it.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

I think the nightlight listeners love you, kind of.

They hope you have a nice run in this new abode.

What, tell us about the digs.

Is it pretty cool place?

Is it better than your last

place?

And one thing that is not better than my last place.

Yeah.

It just, it doesn't have a garage.

Oh, that's a big, that's a big thing.

Yes, it is, you know, especially in Wisconsin, but it's pretty close to the studio here.

Yeah, that's nice.

So I can just walk.

What's your address over there?

I forgot about that right you're right across.

Well, you're close.

You're close.

That's

great Okay, so I mean everything else is better like updated, you know cuz the place I'm living at now was made in finished completely in July

like after all

the you know construction and everything so it's a cool place I got like a 2022 washer and dryer, which is pretty cool

A 2022, meaning it's new, like, from that year?

I think it's around there.

Or it might even be newer than that.

I don't know, but it has Wi-Fi on the washer.

I've never... First

of all, I've never

heard of

anybody referring to appliances by the year.

Like, it's like a 57 Chevy.

It's a 2022 washer.

Well, let me tell you, I had a... I probably had a 60... A 65 washer and dryer in my last place.

You had a washboard.

So,

Wi-Fi on the machine...

So I can connect it to my phone.

Okay, and I can run cycles through my phone and it'll be my phone when it's

done Wow, so you put in a nice delicate cycle for the uh, okay?

Oh, that's kind

of cool pretty cool It's definitely not as big as my last my last apartment was huge I mean it was like 13 I think

1300 square feet

yeah

for a single dude.

Yeah, it was pretty big because I had this massive walk-in closet and I never realized how much clothes I have until I

Going to this news and I like have no room because so what's the square footage like?

Seven hundred I think that's all you need.

Yeah, I know thirteen hundred is great But yeah, it's more to

it's more to clean when you got thirteen hundred square

feet.

Oh, that's you

are have clothes like Diana Ross or something You don't need a closet that big

it was nice though when you know I had all my friends over for the draft and I could fit everyone in there,

right?

You could fit everyone in the closet.

No, it's funny, actually, that someone did sleep in the air mattress in my closet.

So what do you... Now, you're buying all these breweries now in downtown

Green

Bay.

Yes.

So that's kind of cool.

Yeah, it's not gonna be great to the pocket, probably.

Ah, you'll be fine.

Congrats.

That's awesome.

Thank you.

And I cannot thank you enough on not calling me to help you move.

I really appreciate that.

Hey, you need to come help me out here.

I know you're an hour away.

I'm having a moving party, which means no booze or anything.

You just help me move.

That's the party, baby.

So that's exciting.

Well, good for you.

And listen, it's great to have everybody.

I hope

Like, I wonder if people listen to the radio less during the holidays.

I think they do, but like during this week.

We have tonight and tomorrow night, folks, basically, and then we're taking another short break, and we'll be back full-time again on the 5th, and, you know, with regular shows on all the nights.

It's going to be a blast, but this week we've got great best of shows, highlight shows.

I like to call them coming up Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

And we will take a little more R&R.

I'm excited.

I've got so many days to use before the end of the year, and I don't think I could possibly do it.

But I'm going to try.

I believe in you.

I'm gonna party like it's 1999 and get my days in one way or the other.

But we will be here live tonight and tomorrow night with a question, with great guests, with a fun banter, and hopefully with all of you who will text us in whatever you're thinking on whatever we're talking about or answers to our question of the night.

And without further ado, why don't we get to the nightlight question of the night?

Let's talk about the question.

Okay, question.

Question.

Question.

Pregunta.

Question.

Question.

Okay, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Domanda.

Question.

Questions.

Okay, so yesterday, I thought it was Monday when I came up with this question a few days ago, but it was yesterday, but we can still get some mileage out of this.

Was National Playing Card Day?

So tonight's question, ladies and gentlemen, is what's your favorite card game?

I'm excited to do this.

I don't know that we've ever had a card game question and I'm not a like I play poker with my friends and That usually is dealer's choice,

you

know, and it's fun.

It's just it's like fishing.

It's not really even about the cards It's just about the hanging out

and

laughing and all that kind of stuff But let me know what is your favorite card game?

That is tonight's question of the night You can let us know at 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 civic

Or text us on the app.

That's a great way to get hold of the show as well.

And the app is very easy to use.

Or if you're watching the radio on the stream, drop us a stream comment and let us know what your favorite card game is.

And while you're there, give us a like

or a follow.

I was about to say, you know, you could always give us a thumbs up there.

Don't cost nothing.

Exactly.

It is funny, though.

It is like currency.

People with their likes and follows.

I've got more, much more disseminate.

Like I don't.

You know you can only follow so like when I first got on social media I would get an invitation I would just accept everything because they were my friends.

Sure.

Yeah, here you go It didn't mean anything but now oh my god.

I had to go through like probably six months ago and just Not follow.

I was getting so many reminders.

You really got to kind of tighten everything up

Yeah, you definitely gave me

I don't I follow the show you follow nightlife

course, okay, I get a notification every time we go live,

okay?

Just check it.

All right, so the system is working.

So let us know, folks, be part of the show.

Love when you guys join the show and share what's on your mind.

It's always fun.

We've got, oh, let's read our first, we got our first stream comment, and it is from our pal Terry Barr Conrad, one of our faves, one of our Nightlight Besties, who is here every Friday night for Bar Band Friday night with the exception of this Friday that we'll start up again next week or the week of the fifth.

Terry will be back with Barband Friday Night, which is always so much fun.

She says, card game, Kings in the corner, or the version of Uno that spits cards out at you when you tap a button.

That does add a little bit of stress to Uno that I like, because there's always that.

It's like that game.

Do you remember there was a board game where you actually got shocked, and you passed this thing around, and if you do something, people can shock you.

And I always was scared.

I was going to be the guy that had a heart attack or something, so

I

never...

I've never heard of that.

I just don't tempt fate.

I bet if you Google it, we could find it.

But this sounds like that.

I like the Uno game when you tap the button.

There's a little bit of suspense there, which is fun.

But Terry, I have not played Kings in the Corner.

Kings Corner is

amazing.

You called Kings Corner?

I mean, it's the same thing.

My brother and I play that all the time at, you know, gatherings or...

Could you, could you describe the game in about less than 20 seconds?

Because here's the thing.

I saw this meme about a month ago where it was like the look you have whenever someone is explaining how to play a card game.

It's just this blank stare.

It was beautiful.

I'll give you a basic, just basic one line.

It's two players, two player solitaire pretty much.

Okay.

But the kings are in the corners and there's a deck in the middle.

You flip cards over.

And you get, you get, you get a deck.

You get seven in your hand.

Mm-hmm, and then it's like solitaire rules Okay with what the cards that are already out, you know

my biggest problem with solitaire has always been It's too lonely

it is.

Yeah,

this sounds like a perfect cure.

That's fantastic Thank You Terry always I love no isn't it make you feel good that Terry's listening always it's like you know We have to up our game a little bit because she's like this broadcasting legend, but I like it.

I like it

What I don't like is how do you feel Conrad about the Bears and the Packers playing again?

I don't know if I need that level of stress

again.

Okay, but here's the thing I feel like as a bear fan my level of stress would be much worse because the Bears would be expected to win that game and both games they've played They've been closer than close and the Packers have nothing the Packers are not gonna go far in the playoffs.

I don't think barring

I don't even

but that game

You know, I've got too much trauma from over the years with the Packers breaking my heart.

And I feel like if they play the Bears in the first game, it's not going to go well for us.

And we can't stop.

The Bears have no pass rush.

They can't stop the run.

They have no offense as we saw last night.

Let me ask you this.

How annoyed are you with the, uh, with San Francisco 49ers?

The Niners are just always good.

They're always good.

They're always just, just even a down year, you're like thinking like, ah, they probably won't be that good because the Rams are good.

The Seahawks are good.

I think they just come out of nowhere and they're just... When Brock Purdy came back from injury.

Right.

I mean, even when Mac Jones was playing there, still.

Because you got Kyle Shanahan.

I mean, that offense, you could... It's just crazy.

I still won't forgive the Panthers for giving them CMC.

Who's CMC?

Kristen McAvery.

Oh, Kristen.

Yeah, right.

I don't even understand how... Like, he's fast, he's strong, but...

He's just a guy like when one guy has him, he gets away.

I don't understand.

Like how do you and the guy could be bigger?

But here's what irritates me more than anything about the San Francisco 49ers.

They mortgage their future to draft Tre Lantz, who is beyond a bust.

Yeah.

And then they back in and they luck out with Brock Purdy.

They take the last guy literally in the draft and he's great.

They that shouldn't happen you should have to pay a price for that kind of Drafting and free agency malfeasance.

That's horrible.

They did have a lot of injuries on defenses here.

Maybe that was Even though they're still good.

I mean their defense isn't as good as they should be but

it's awful I don't like the nighters, but I could listen if anything if the Bears and Packers play again That'll give us another week of fun stuff to talk

about.

Yeah, I'm just gonna be stressed the whole time.

Just like

Why is like Malik Willis?

Nobody can stop him anyway.

He is the real

deal.

He's

ridiculous.

I know they have they just paid love this huge contract, but you ever see a scenario where love could be traded?

For high draft

picks

and then you roll with Malik Willis.

No, love is our guy.

They won't they won't do what they did to drew blood.

So You know what the Patriots did

But I think if love went elsewhere, he could still be good with the right coach

is your love

I

mean a lot of

people are saying he's a system QB, but yeah, I I just You know two games of Malik Willis and everyone's like oh Jordan love sucks like he's been good this year.

I'm not saying no I'm saying

no, I'm not you but if

you trade him and he get Like a starting isn't he a top ten quarterback?

Yeah, well, I mean he's been now.

He's injured so probably out of it now, but yeah, but

I mean, it's just Malik Wells is good though, and he won't be a packer next year.

He's gonna be a starter somewhere, not in Tennessee.

Guarantee he's not gonna be in Tennessee.

We'll see what happens.

Tonight's question of the night, folks.

What is your favorite card game?

Yesterday was National Playing Card Day, so let us know your favorite card game on the text line, or the stream, or the app.

We got New Year's to talk about too.

Yeah stuff going

around there's a list I found of the best cities to do New Year's the best activities on New Year's Eve, but first We are gonna do a very short break and news Sports and weather is coming up in just about 10 minutes So sit tight folks and you will be kept informed by our fantastic civic media news team.

That's in just 10 minutes when we come back.

I'm gonna tell you Hmm, what am I gonna tell people Conrad?

You saw Avatar, didn't you?

I did see Avatar.

You could talk about that.

We have a

brief thumbnail on Avatar.

We'll do that.

We'll read some of your texts.

That's all coming up next on Nightlight with Peach Waba on the Civic Media radio

network.

You are addicted to that song, aren't you?

It's a good tune.

Great tune.

Uh, welcome back.

This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba.

I am Pete Schwabba.

Uh, I meant to ask you before the break, have you watched, uh, Stranger Things?

Are you caught up in that?

Yeah, I'm, I'm completely, I actually, the other day, I was like, I did not re-watch before season five I didn't watch.

So I just re-watched season one because I kind of forgot a little bit.

Yeah.

Season one's so good compared to-

Season one of the original, of the first, the actual one that started.

Okay.

Season five is good.

I just think it's kind of cringey at sometimes.

I agree.

Especially so you know the big thing.

I mean it was that they just the ad placement was hilarious You know like

the

Gatorade thing that they did in the second in the second like Episodes that they released there was one that they're like you got a few up on bugles Was that a line?

It's like you're kidding me, right?

That is a

Joe.

Oh my god, so

All right, so I have two things to say about this.

We were at, did that come out Christmas Eve or Christmas

day?

Yeah, Christmas

day.

So at like seven o'clock.

Yeah, yeah.

All right, so I have two, this is a two-parter.

I'm at my parents' house.

We're having Christmas day there.

We had Christmas Eve at our house.

My wife cannot whisper.

She, my wife will lean in and put her mouth close to my ear and then talk at full volume.

That's whispering to her.

It's

not, it's not like,

it's not like

this.

It's like, so we're over there and she leans in and she goes, and she's really close to me.

And she goes, are you and the kids watching stranger things tonight?

And I'm like, everybody in the room heard her.

Like, first

of all, it's not

even whisper worthy.

Nobody cares.

I don't know what she was going for with that, but she cannot whisper.

It's an art.

She's a good person.

She's got other good qualities.

I'm

just

saying that's kind of so anyway my kids Ran back to the house because we live right by my parents.

We watch stranger things all three episodes and my son has become this kind of he's been making these reels on Instagram and tiktok Various things he imitates the kid from that 70s show does a character called the bad boyfriend and then he did a stranger things episode or real just Yeah, okay, so

He's making notes while we're watching stranger things my daughter's helping him the two of them are putting their heads together The next day he wakes up and he goes we might as well not even do it There have been thousands of people creating reels at how bad the product placement

was

in stranger things It's you know, it's overt and just obnoxious

And I've seen those those tiktoks that are like that, you know, I've seen your sons too and those are pretty funny There's also like

just besides the ad placement one, there's like how cringy the lines are.

It's like, it reverts like, oh, he's right behind me, isn't he?

Yeah, and they finish each other's sentences too.

That's like a trope of theirs or something, but I don't care.

I'm just watching it to watch with them and hang out.

I don't particularly think the show is great, but there are some fun moments in it.

And I agree with you.

I thought the first season was...

Oh, the first season's dynamite.

It's so good.

And I think it's funny is like...

This season it doesn't seem like Eleven who's like the main character, you know, yeah has those powers that she did in the first season

like the first

season She made Mike another like main character one of the you know the the kids in it like literally float in air and fly him back up from falling

Right they kind of cherry pick when they use her powers or whatever

and she was like struggling to like pick up a truck and then in the first season she literally like

flew one.

That's fun.

All right, so we've got a great show tonight, folks, to guest wise to Lisa Hale will be here.

She is the bureau chief of Northeast Wisconsin for news here at Civic Media.

And you hear her reports throughout the day.

If you're a regular listener, Lisa does a great job.

She is also an avid TV watcher, and she will be here to discuss a number of things.

And she wants to talk about spiders.

So I'm gonna

That could be a fun topic just to get people

I'm

scared people will listen to it just long enough and they'll have bad dreams tonight So tune in for that.

Well, you know you gotta watch those corners.

Make sure there's no spiders in them.

That's right and then at Where are we going here 610 or 635?

I'm sorry elite Kristen lady will be here very funny northeast Wisconsin based comedian She's got a lot of funny things coming up a lot of a lot of funny things a lot of good gigs coming up including one at New Year's Eve and you won't

Kristen's so funny, and she's so likable, and I love when she comes into the studio.

So she's gonna tell us all about her upcoming dates and some other things.

She's opening for some really cool people.

We'll cover that.

At 7.05, we're going bang bang with some comedy here, some comedy bang bang, as it were.

Desmal Rooney will be here to tell us about his new year's Eve show at Memories Ballroom in Port Washington.

And then Conrad, we are gonna close the show up with, this is Wisconsin, some cheese talk.

Oh, it's Wisconsin.

It's Wisconsin.

Can't you tell by the icicles on your eyelashes

when you walked in?

Donna Hahn will be here to discuss the cheese drop in the big cheese drop in Plymouth.

It's this thing they've been doing for like 20 years and they it's like an 80-pound chunk of cheese and the big apple has the ball drop Plymouth, Wisconsin.

The cheese capital of Wisconsin, well asked Donna about that too, has a thing where they drop this thing of cheese and I assume they all cut it up and

Have at it.

But Donna will be here at 735.

So there is your show.

We've got really fun guests and we'll talk some comedy, some cheese, some TV.

News is coming up in just two minutes, folks.

Sports, news, and weather.

And I did see Avatar.

Yeah.

You gotta let me know how it is.

Very long.

And I'll tell you this.

You know, you could watch the first two acts and then leave the theater because the third act is a big battle in the beautiful paradise.

It's a spectacle.

It's a beautiful

movie and, you know, the CGI is great.

But man, everyone in our party, we went with like 12 people agreed.

It was very similar.

The end was like, they could have just swapped the endings or took the ending from the second one and added it to this.

I didn't love it.

Did you watch it in a 3D?

No, kind of limited our movie viewing in Marinette.

Did they have that here in Green Bay?

So me having terrible vision.

I have to put on my 3D glasses over my glasses.

I'm over here.

I don't

like doing that, so.

So you have to put on 3D glasses over your glasses.

Yeah.

Does

that like mess you up after the movie too

for a while?

Yeah, it feels a little weird too, but it gives me a pretty bad headache too, so I really don't watch 3D movies.

It'd

be kind of cool if when you left the theater you were seeing things in 2D.

Yeah.

All right, we are coming up after news with Lisa Hale will be here.

You are here on a great night, folks.

It's Monday.

Let's celebrate.

It's Peach Wabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

It is Monday folks Kind of love the week between Christmas and New Year's because it doesn't really feel like like we're working We're not mailing it in Maybe maybe you

aren't

you mailing it in guys just feet up on the board just trying to hit it with your toes All right folks as I mentioned we got a jam-packed night great guests here tonight our question tonight is what is your favorite card game yesterday was national

Card playing day, I believe so our question of the night is do you have a favorite card game?

I don't think I gave mine I'm gonna wait and ask Lisa our first guest this and then we can give ours con but let's sure let's start with Lisa I wouldn't be surprised Lisa's very Wisconsin, but she somehow got a little bit of a southern accent I don't know if you noticed so maybe she'll in Dira maybe she'll tell us about a card game she learned

from some of her many travels.

But right now, without further ado, it is my pleasure to welcome the wonderfully talented News Bureau Chief of Northeast Wisconsin here at Civic Media.

She is also one heck of a TV watcher.

Lisa Hale.

Hey, Lisa.

Hello.

Yeah, TV is one of my favorite things.

One person described it once as literature, television as literature.

And I love that description because not all of us will pick up a book, but we'll sit there and watch eight hours of a show in one weekend, given the chance.

Listen, there is nothing to be ashamed of when it comes to watching color television.

It's a beautiful invention.

It's an escape.

I absolutely love it.

And I quote the great Bart Simpson, who, when Marge asked him, Bart, how much TV do you watch a day?

How many hours of TV do you watch a day?

Six, seven, if there's something good on.

So you don't even need it to be.

You know, award-winning television, but hey, it's good to see you, Lisa.

How are you?

I'm fine.

How are you

doing very well?

Do you have a home studio going there?

Where are you?

This is this is out of the W. I. S. S. Studios here in.

in Oshkosh, yeah.

I

was still working, and I looked at the clock, and I went, oh, I have to be on with Pete here in about 15 minutes.

I'm not going home.

I'll just stay right here.

Well, you don't have to be.

And that's what makes it such a beautiful gesture.

You just come on anyway, and we love that.

So it is great to have you here.

Let's start with the question of the night.

Do you have a favorite card game?

Okay, we have to clarify this, because when you're talking about a card game, are you talking about a card game with a standard deck of cards, or are

you

talking about just a card game, a game that uses cards?

Well, okay.

I would say playing cards like, you know, the Hoyers or whatever the brand is, or- The Hoyle?

The Hoyle, yeah.

And somebody said,

Uno too, which is acceptable.

I think if you have to draw like Monopoly has cards, I wouldn't call that a card game.

So, but, but you know what?

Your dime, your dance floor, you tell us whatever card game you like.

There are no rules.

If

you're talking about the cards that you pick up at, you know, any game store, the 52 card pickup cards, I absolutely love gin.

I

will

play

gin constantly.

Um, but if you're talking about my favorite card game in general, it's Munchkin.

Have you ever played Munchkin?

I have never even heard of Munchkin, to be

honest.

Oh my gosh.

It is so much fun.

If you have anybody who's into role-playing games or D&D or anything of that nature, Munchkin takes that kind of philosophy, turns it on its head and makes it ridiculous.

Oh man.

And

I love it.

That is fantastic.

That sounds, uh, kind of take a memo.

Let's Google Munchkin.

Munchkin.

I got it on Amazon right now.

They have so many different versions of Munchkin.

There's, you know, Munchkin with vampires called Munchkin Bites.

There's Munchkins in space.

There's Munchkins everywhere.

Oh, that is.

Fun.

I got to check this out.

Okay.

Cause I'm always, I'm always looking for a new card game too.

I don't play cards a ton, but I do love Texas Holden poker.

Are you, you, I said you kind of have a Southern accent.

Can you

tell us a

little bit about where you're from and your travels again and how you ended up in very cold Northeast Wisconsin.

Well, I mean, in, in my defense, I was born in the Midwest.

I was born in Michigan.

Okay.

When I was 12,

My grandmother was told, you can't survive another Michigan winter.

Because she had really bad lungs.

And she told my mother, we're not moving south unless you move south.

So mom packed up the three kids and we all moved down to Louisiana.

That's where the accent comes

from.

I

was 12 years old and living in Louisiana until I was about, see.

I was in my mid 20s

when I

moved to Texas and then from Texas I went to Mississippi and then from Mississippi to Wisconsin, Wisconsin to Louisiana, Louisiana

back to Wisconsin.

See you have just enough like you got a little bit of Southern in there and it mixes well with the Midwest you know accent I guess for lack of better word like I feel like

I know I definitely have some version of Chicago and Wisconsin mixed.

Uh, I don't, I don't really hear an accent on Conrad much.

I think he's a lifelong, well your lifelong

Wisconsin accent.

He's got it was, you know, it's funny.

If I talk to my family, my sister specifically, because she has got one hell of a Southern accent.

So

if I talk to my sister or my brother or any of my friends down south,

It comes back because, you know, you're in that,

right?

If I drink, it comes back for most.

But I'll listen to my newscast and every once in a while, I will go, oh, my gosh, that sounded so southern.

So

that's hilarious.

You know what?

Like I don't I've kind of spent.

I've kind of split my time between Chicago and Wisconsin so I feel like once in a while but I've been in Wisconsin for the last several years and I feel like once in a while I'll hear myself say yeah they're taking the boat out or something like and I'm like oh god I don't want to be that and I also don't want the Chicago or where's my hat like that kind of thing I find them cringe worthy I try to speak accent free is that it's

so funny because I will call this a coke

Yeah, it's it's not it's not a soda.

It's not a pop.

It's a coat.

Yes.

I will call the things you push at the grocery store a buggy.

Those are definite Southern isms.

Okay.

But I do say, oh, let me switch past right past by you here.

You know, I do that all the time in the store.

Oh, let me excuse past by yourself.

I love those little idiosyncratic like my friend of mine said or my sister came back from her friends instead her dad said They were talking about a basketball practice or something and the dad said oh, and it was a practice yet besides But that just kind of makes things fun, I don't know

Yeah, and the one thing that we didn't do in the south that we do up here that I picked up is the yeah, no, yeah

Yeah,

no, yeah, no

Laura the Erno

Erno, yeah, and bubblers

Do you say stop and go lights?

Not until I lived in Ripon, Wisconsin

for a long

time, but yeah, I do say stop and go lights now and I also say cop shop

for

the police

departments.

Oh, that's a cool one, though.

Like I don't say stop and go.

I just stop lights.

I think it's the point across.

You know,

I do a stop and go light.

I know nobody's going to stop.

You go, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Can you go with these lights too?

Or is it stop only?

Like, you know,

the interesting thing is, is that I have friends in Louisiana, in Texas and Kansas and, uh, Oklahoma.

And you can hear the, and Georgia, you can hear the slight changes in their Southern accent.

Okay.

You can point it.

But you can definitely pinpoint Wisconsin.

Yes, I agree

half second

and it's not even it's not it's similar to Minnesota or the UP, but it's its own thing Don't you think

yeah,

and it's so weird how you get south like the Illinois, Wisconsin border the accent changes and why is that it's not like there's its mountains or a different country It's very strange.

It's the same it really in most states in Louisiana the north Louisiana accent is

miles apart from the central Louisiana or the Cajun accent, which is miles apart from New Orleans, it has its own accent.

Right.

And New Orleans accent is practically a New York accent.

Yeah, that's weird.

Okay.

See, this is why I love having news people on.

Like, you can break this down, especially...

One as well traveled as you so that was that was an education.

That was awesome

Well traveled.

That's a very nice way of saying one of us is old as you Lisa

Or I could have said nomadic, but either way it's it's a very exotic term

So, tell me, Lisa Hale is my guest, by the way, folks.

She is the bureau chief for news here in northeast Wisconsin, part of our civic media family.

Lisa, what is your deal with spiders?

Because the last couple of times we've had Yvonne, you've mentioned spiders, and I'm like, I think she might want to talk about this.

So tonight, you have the floor.

Is it a love-hate relationship?

Just hate?

What is the deal?

It started out as a hate relationship.

I used to be terrified.

terrified of spiders to the point where I would take a picture of a spider, text my best friend and say, come over and kill it.

I can't even go near it.

I mean, I was terrified, but I'm also a photographer.

And I started taking pictures of insects, specifically spiders.

and then would have to go and look up everything about that particular species of spider.

So I got to the point where it was kind of like therapy through photography.

So by learning about all these spiders, I learned which were dangerous and which were not.

And I began to love them.

I absolutely love them now.

I am not afraid of spiders.

I can pick up any spider and relocate it.

I mean, any spider.

I do that.

And I've taught my kids to do that.

You don't need to kill it.

Put it outside.

Don't don't don't crush an entire universe.

You know, this is one

of

God's creatures.

We can be nice here.

Mosquitoes I will slap the crap out of without even thinking

twice.

You wait, wait, even mosquito.

No, I

hate a

mosquito.

And I hate a cockroach.

I will squish a cockroach and I will

squish

a mosquito.

But a spider, no.

And you know.

They spread disease.

That's okay to do that.

You're defending yourself, not a spider, the mosquitoes and the cockroach.

I was going to say because spiders don't spread disease.

As a matter of fact, I could do a TED talk on spiders.

I swear to you, Pete, I could.

There are only three species of, well,

three classifications of spiders that are considered medically significant

in

the United States of America.

They are the black widow and all of her species, the brown widow and the brown recluse.

And of those spiders, we only have one that occurs naturally in Wisconsin, and that is the northern black widow.

Is that poisonous here in Wisconsin?

We have those in LA all the time.

We would see them in our garage and I would tell the, you know, don't go near that.

But the poisonous ones are here in Wisconsin too.

Black widows

are medically

significant.

And every single spider on the face of the earth is venomous.

But whether or not it's medically significant to a human being is what you go by.

When

you say medically significant, meaning it can cause you harm.

it can cause you some sort of distress.

And black widows can cause some neurological disorder and reaction.

They can make you very sick to your stomach if they're big enough, if you get big enough.

Brown widows, much more mild than black widows where the venom is concerned, but they are extremely prolific in the south.

I mean...

they're becoming an invasive species.

And then the brown recluses, which basically what you're getting problems from the brown recluses is a staff infection.

All right, let's pick up there Lisa Hale is here folks.

We're gonna do a very short break I'm gonna come back and ask her why you had to take a picture of the spider to send your friends that so we know you can't just say There's a spider here.

He has to know what kind of weaponry to bring apparently so well to get it all that After this very short break, it's peach wabba and nightlight on the civic media radio network

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Pete Schwab, this is Nightlight.

It is great to have you here, folks.

Let's Monday.

Let's do this.

We finally get to talk about the things we love.

That break was too long, Lisa.

I don't know.

Did you take a few days off for Christmas?

What?

I took Christmas off, but yeah, no.

Spoken like a true reporter.

That is the voice of Lisa Hale.

She is the Northeast Wisconsin Bureau Chief for Civic Media, and we love having her on the show because she is an avid TV watcher.

She knows spiders and all kinds of stuff.

Conrad hates spiders.

He just said that, and he's like...

Oh, Conrad, I could so teach you but not to hate them.

You'll end up loving them if you hang out with me.

I went to Australia when I was younger.

Oh, never mind.

My first encounter with a Black Widow when I was 11 and I went to

the

bathroom.

No, it didn't bite me, but I saw it in the corner of the stall that I was using.

Never finished a bathroom break so fast in my life.

That could be extra precarious if you see one of the bathrooms depending on your situation.

That reminds me of my brother who had the same thing happen.

He took a picture of it and sent it to me and said, I can't go back in there.

Oh, no.

The spider.

Just to clarify.

OK.

Yeah.

Oh my god.

Lisa, our friend Amanda Nimmer, one of our producers here at Nightlight and WGVW and our social media guru is listening and she says, Lisa, in all caps and exclamation points, what is it like when you get that much love?

That's pretty cool.

I love it.

Yeah.

And speaking of Amanda, can you see this?

Yeah.

She gave me this last year.

Oh my gosh.

Yep.

So we're late to the party.

A lot of people know you have the okay.

I used to I used to keep a page called spider chick Lisa Hale.

I had a Facebook page on it.

I used

to.

Wow.

Okay.

Do you do you spray for spiders because in our house we get them if we don't spray they come in and they're all over the place because we have like a subterranean kind of dealio.

I hated it.

Yeah.

Doing it.

We have so many.

orb weavers and yellow sack spiders at our property that they tend, you know, spiders poop.

Y'all,

they do.

And they make a

mess on the siding.

And I hate spraying for spiders.

I hate it because I love them all.

But yeah,

that's a problem, though.

That's I never even thought of that.

I guess they do have

spiders poop.

Yeah.

Why wouldn't a spider have to have a BM once in a while?

Okay.

And it can be messy on your siding and stuff like that.

It can cause

problems.

All right.

Lisa Hale is here.

She is a reporter here at Civic Media covering Northeast Wisconsin.

She's joining us tonight live from our Oshkosh studio.

I have to talk to you.

Would you be able to stick around for a few minutes through the news, Lisa?

Sure.

Because we haven't even gotten to.

I want to talk about your sitcom list, but you're also watching

his

show.

Yeah, you're watching a show that I'm watching called Dark Winds, and I'm through all three seasons.

It's Robert Redford produced with, I think, George Martin.

Yeah,

from the Beatles.

And the two of them have teamed up.

Dark Winds is the show.

It takes place on a Navajo Reservation, Reservation Police, and a really good show.

But tell me your thoughts on the show.

I've only seen the first season, and while we were watching it,

Number one, I loved, absolutely loved the way that they wove, um, indigenous culture into the show without making it about indigenous culture.

Do you know what I

mean?

Yeah, I do.

That's a great way to put it.

They did, they, it was part of life.

It's not, look at this.

This is indigenous.

It was, this is just how it is.

And this,

you got to solve a murder.

Yeah, exactly.

And we've got to solve a murder with it.

And, um,

I'm really, really appreciative of the writing and the representation and it got me.

They had a little bit of a supernatural edge to it in that first season and I was really...

caught up in the whole thing.

I really enjoy it.

The third season is like that a little bit too.

There's a supernatural element to it, but they do it really well.

You can't tell if it's actual supernatural if they're saying this exists or is it in this guy's head.

And they also do a great job of like, typically I feel like during an 80s network drama, if there was a police.

drama set on a Navajo reservation, they would say like, oh, here come the bad white FBI agents and they're going to tell you how to do it.

This show is, the characters are more complex.

It's just very well written show.

I like it.

And it's not always the most exciting.

They take their time, but I'm okay with that.

And that's one of the things I said to my husband.

I'm like, the storytelling in this is slow and deliberate.

And that's what I like.

Also, it's set, or at least the first season was, I don't know about the rest of them, was set in the 70s.

In the 70s, right.

I'm sitting there and I'm watching this going, of course, I remember the 70s.

Yeah.

So.

No, it's great.

And the actor, I love, I forgot, that was great that you mentioned that.

The lead actor who plays a character named Joe Leaporn, he's the chief of police on the reservation, is Zahn McLarenan.

He's one of those guys where if you check out the show, you'll go, oh, I've seen this guy in a ton of stuff.

He's

great.

So, all right, Lisa Hale is here, folks.

We are gonna talk about another show you told me about, Lisa, from is coming back on.