Laughs, Sitcoms, and Stand-Up: A Comedic Countdown (Hour 2)

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Laughs, Sitcoms, and Stand-Up: A Comedic Countdown (Hour 2)

Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Mon Dec 29, 2025

Kathryn Lake

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Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now, a guy who prefers to travel by catapult, Pete Schwabba.

Pete Schwaba

Welcome back!

It is time for Act 2, here of Nightlight on this Monday edition, coming to you live from beautiful city deck landing in Green Bay.

Pardon me.

Connor, how you doing?

You hanging in there?

Yeah, you know, just mailing it in, like you said.

Pete Schwaba

Alright, get your feet off the board.

Great show tonight, folks.

Lisa Hale is still with us.

We're going to be back with Lisa in just a moment.

She's agreed to stick around a little bit through the news so we can rank our top five all-time sitcoms.

Very much looking forward to that.

Conrad's going to weigh in, too.

I think his will be more contemporary a little bit, but we'll see what happens.

Coming up at 6.35, comedian Kristen Lighty will be here in the studio.

We always love having Kristen come in.

She's going to tell us about her plans for New Year's Eve that involve comedy and laughter.

And you probably will want to be a part of that.

And then at 7.05, you ready for this con?

I'm ready.

More comedy.

Is it 7.05?

We have Dez?

Yeah, 7.10.

Dez Mulrooney.

Another comedian will be here who's going to be performing at Memories Ballroom in Port Washington on New Year's Eve as well.

If you haven't ever been to a comedy show on New Year's Eve, folks, it is such a great way to ring in the new year.

Who doesn't need more laughter, especially as we venture into another year?

And then at 735, we are going to be talking about a gigantic, and I mean gigantic, big cheese drop in Plymouth with Donna Hahn.

And that's a real thing, Khan.

New York has the ball they drop.

Plymouth, Wisconsin is the cheese capital of Wisconsin.

According to Plymouth, Wisconsin.

We'll push Donna to explain that a little bit as well, because I think we have cheese.

You know, what?

Everywhere.

What type of flavor do you think the cheese is?

I've

Pete Schwaba

already.

I don't know.

Hopefully it's a smoked Gouda.

Gouda?

I hope it's a nice smoked Gouda.

I don't know.

It's a real block.

It's like an 80 pound block of cheese.

So it could crush you if you were underneath it.

Yeah.

You're done for.

All right, all of that.

Our question of the night, folks, is what is your favorite card game yesterday was National Playing Card Day?

So we will read some texts to coming up.

But first, let's get back to our guest, Lisa Hale.

She joins us from our Civic Media Oshkosh Studios.

Lisa, do you have plans for New Year's Eve?

Lisa Hale

Yes, I do.

They involve pajamas, crochet, maybe a fluffy blanket.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, that sounds like a great New Year's Eve.

Now as your husband, are you guys kind of on the same wavelength there or is he like to go out and party type or is he just fine staying into?

Lisa Hale

No, he is definitely not the go out and party type.

He would much rather be at home watching Doctor Who or whatever geek related thing he wants to watch.

Pete Schwaba

He's through your husband under the bus.

Lisa Hale

No, well, I'm I'm right there with him.

I'm watching the same

Pete Schwaba

show This is from wallet hub.

I don't know if you saw this The the most popular thing or way to ring in the new year is watching Netflix or some other streaming platform 35% of the people said that 24% said go to a New Year's Eve party 20 said get some sleep

We have turned into a pack of nerds, people.

What do you think about that, Lees?

It sounds like you're more on the Netflix side.

Lisa Hale

I've been a nerd since high school, so it just makes sense to me.

Pete Schwaba

Embrace it.

I do

Lisa Hale

embrace

Pete Schwaba

it.

There is nothing wrong with that.

It's great to have you here, Lees, so we love when you come by here and talk about TV and movies and all this kind of fun stuff.

Before we get to our all-time sitcom lists, you're watching a show called Robin Hood that you seem to really like.

Lisa Hale

I do really like it.

It's on MGM plus just like from is and it's it's a telling of the Robin Hood legend.

Okay.

And it's it's kind of taking a different tact to it a little bit.

It focuses on the differences of the Saxons and the Normans.

I'm really just enjoying it.

I like the Robin Hood legend anyway.

It's one of my favorite stories.

So being able to delve into this over 10 or 12 episodes has been really fun.

Pete Schwaba

Let me ask you this.

When you have so many derivations of this story, like, I like the story too, but there have been movies, comedies, they've redone it.

Like, at what point do you go, all right, I've seen enough.

I mean, how into it are you knowing that?

Lisa Hale

But you have to remember, Pete, that

Well, we may have seen the Costner and the LAs and all of these other versions.

A Gen Zer may not have.

And

Lisa Hale

I know a Gen Alpha hasn't.

So, you know, this is a good way to introduce them to the story and maybe get them brought in.

And the production value is very good.

It's not like,

Pete Schwaba

so.

What do you, what is Generation Alpha?

I don't think I've ever heard that.

Lisa Hale

You've never heard of Gen

Pete Schwaba

Alpha?

Lisa Hale

They're the ones that are coming up behind Gen Z right now.

So right about now, they're 11, 12, 13.

Okay.

Pete Schwaba

And Gen Z ends at like 28 or 29 right now, maybe?

Lisa Hale

I think so.

Don't get me started on where things block off because I don't know exactly.

All I know is that my nephew is a millennial.

I am an older Gen X.

My

friends

Lisa Hale

have gen alpha kids.

Pete Schwaba

Wow.

That's a lot to remember on top of all your spider information.

I'm also Gen X, Con your Gen Z, right?

I think so.

Okay.

See, that's such a Gen Z response.

I don't know, man.

Yeah, sure.

Why not?

Lisa Hale

Yeah, I'm a Gen

Pete Schwaba

Z. All right, Lees, let's get to your list of all time favorite sitcoms.

Most death not a weak link in the bunch and I love you You went different eras to mine are mostly 70s or I would say 80s 90s You've got you're kind of spread out here.

You've got number six.

What's your top six actually?

Lisa Hale

We can start with number six number six is a tie.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah a coupling I don't know that show

Lisa Hale

you don't know coupling.

I don't think so

Uh, coupling is a UK sitcom.

Pete Schwaba

Okay.

Lisa Hale

And I think they had maybe, I want to say six seasons, but I'm probably very wrong in that.

And, you know, UK sitcoms are very, very short.

You get

Pete Schwaba

like

Lisa Hale

maybe six episodes

Pete Schwaba

in a season.

They're great.

Yeah, I love it.

And

Lisa Hale

they're very funny.

And Steven Moffat wrote the couplings.

And I don't know if you know his name, but he's also connected to the Doctor Who universe and everything.

Coupling is extremely funny, and it is friends before we had friends.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, so that's why you put, like, a slash friend.

Okay.

Lisa Hale

Right, right, because they're very similar.

It's a group of, you know, basically back then it was Gen X.

Pete Schwaba

So a

Lisa Hale

group of Gen X friends that are all together.

coupling up, decoupling, recoupling all that, you know,

Pete Schwaba

just

Lisa Hale

like in friends.

Pete Schwaba

All right.

So that's number six.

Number five is a show.

I did watch this for a cup of coffee back when it first came out.

I don't know why I went away with it, but it's a great cast, too.

Hot and Cleveland.

Lisa Hale

Hot and Cleveland.

I love it.

Pete Schwaba

It was me TV, right?

I think that was the me TV network.

That was one of the first big ones they put out, or maybe I'm mistaken.

But anyway, hot and Cleveland is a great show.

Lisa Hale

It is.

You know, Valerie Bertinelli and Betty White, you cannot go wrong

Pete Schwaba

with Betty

Lisa Hale

White in any sitcom.

I'm sorry.

I just adore that woman so much.

Pete Schwaba

She's so great.

I know.

All right.

So number four.

Her reminder?

Number four on your list is Ghosts.

I don't know this show either.

I mean, I've heard of it.

Lisa Hale

Okay.

So Ghosts.

Ghost is also an American version of a UK sitcom.

You can tell my humor lies in the UK.

It really does.

It's about a innkeeper who fell and now she hit her head and now she can see ghosts.

And there are like many generations of ghosts that live in this old home that

Pete Schwaba

she's

Lisa Hale

speaking.

It's hilarious.

It

Pete Schwaba

is really

Lisa Hale

funny.

Pete Schwaba

Very

Lisa Hale

well written.

Pete Schwaba

Did you ever see the Ricky Gervais film Ghost Town?

Lisa Hale

I think...

No, no, I did not see that one.

Pete Schwaba

He has that issue too, like where he can see ghosts and it's people asking him to make amends for them.

They've passed on before they got to make amends.

It's a great premise.

He's really funny and it's very sweet.

And Greg Keneer plays one of the ghosts too that he sees.

It's a great movie.

Lisa Hale

I'll have to put that on my list.

Pete Schwaba

Lisa Hale is here.

She is the very talented news bureau chief here at Civic Media for Northeast Wisconsin.

It is great to have her here talking TV.

We are working our way through her list of her six favorite sitcoms.

We are at number three, the IT crowd, Lisa.

Lisa Hale

The IT crowd and again, a UK sitcom.

Yeah.

You've seen it, right?

Pete Schwaba

I've seen the pilot.

Is that where he gets up in the middle of the board meeting and just jumps out the window because.

Yeah, because he knows they're going under or something like that.

Lisa Hale

Yes.

Yes.

Pete Schwaba

Great thing.

Lisa Hale

And it is a fantastic...

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, I got to check that out more.

Lisa Hale

It's just really funny.

I mean, if you've ever heard anybody say, have you tried turning an on and off again when referring to anything IT related?

All right.

Lisa Hale

Imagine that constantly.

One of the characters actually had a...

Like real to real cassette recorder kind of things

Pete Schwaba

right

Lisa Hale

up next to his phone and he would answer the phone it and hit the button.

Have you tried turning

Pete Schwaba

it

Lisa Hale

on and off?

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, I gotta check that out.

I laughed hysterically at the pie.

Some of these, I don't know, you just, you watch so much, you forget about it, or a couple of years goes by before they release another season, and you're like, oh yeah, I used to watch that.

That's the

Lisa Hale

problem with UK sitcoms is

Pete Schwaba

it

Lisa Hale

can be years.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, and years wait for a six episode season.

I like that their seasons are shorter because I think they're tighter and they're funnier, but I'm with you.

So number two on your list, Conrad can maybe relate to this because he likes one of the spin-offs, is the Big Bang Theory.

Lisa Hale

Absolutely.

I absolutely love the course.

I'm a big nerd.

I'm a huge nerd.

And I'm sorry, but Sheldon Cooper is also my brother.

So, you know.

Pete Schwaba

You say you're a nerd, but you know, there's very few nerds I've met in my life and they're lovely people, but I would not be scared of most nerds.

I'm a little scared of you,

Lisa Hale

sometimes.

I'm not going to hurt you.

I promise.

Pete Schwaba

Okay.

All right.

I'm okay with it.

Conrad, are you scared of Lisa?

Like you just have,

Lisa Hale

you have an

Pete Schwaba

edge to you sometimes where I just would not want to get into your bad side.

Is that

Lisa Hale

fair?

No.

And that's one thing that my husband does say, you know, don't get on Lisa's bed.

She'll go scorched earth.

And I probably would.

Pete Schwaba

All right.

Number one, the golden girls.

Great show.

Yes.

Betty White again.

Lisa Hale

Betty White, best sitcom ever.

And you know what's funny is I still watch it to this day.

I will do complete series rewatches.

It's my comfort

Pete Schwaba

show.

Lisa Hale

And I will put that on and I will giggle just as hard as I did the first time I heard it.

Pete Schwaba

It's a great show.

And so many people on the show, because we talk about TV a lot, have said it's their comfort show as well.

So it just has that vibe to it.

Conrad, you want to share your favorite?

Well, you're a young Sheldon guy.

I like young Sheldon.

Yeah, but it's one of your faves.

I put it at like five for me, probably.

Pete Schwaba

Okay.

And tell DC your number

Lisa Hale

one.

I think the post is in yours, isn't it?

I really do like Ghost.

That's a fantastic show.

I've seen that.

I haven't seen the newest season yet, but I've watched all the other ones.

Pete Schwaba

Really good.

Tell her your favorite

show.

How I met your mother.

I've seen it like 10 times, probably more than that probably actually

Pete Schwaba

now.

Have you

seen that, at least?

Lisa Hale

I have seen how I met your mother.

I have.

And it's it's probably top 20 for me.

Okay.

But yeah, I definitely think that that's no slouch.

It's not a slot.

I mean, Alison Hannigan is is hilarious.

Her

Pete Schwaba

comedic

Lisa Hale

timing was really good.

And so I have to give and oh, come on.

Come on.

Neil Patrick Harris.

He's great.

Lisa Hale

Mario.

Come on.

That's classic.

Pete Schwaba

Alright, I'm gonna give you my five.

Can we keep you for just two more minutes, Lise?

We have a really short break here.

You just like, I get talking to you and we have so much to talk about, so I'm blaming you.

Lisa Hale is here.

I swear, just for two more minutes, I'm gonna give my top five shows and I want her opinion on them.

This is Pete Schwabba Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

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Pete Schwaba

Welcome back You really were mailing in there and so was I like you're starting the intro music I'm off talking to our next guest and I'm not paying attention And we've got Lisa Hale waiting in the wings here very patiently for us Lisa Hale covers news here at Civic Media for Northeast Wisconsin She is the bureau chief and she has a blast to talk TV with so all right Lisa you're ready for my top five.

Lisa Hale

I am

Pete Schwaba

I'm ready for this I've got actually six as well and and an alternate so

I broke the rules, but I'm going to go backwards.

Larry Sanders, the Larry Sanders show.

You ever see that with Gary Shanling?

Lisa Hale

Yes.

Pete Schwaba

Love it.

I did not count the animated, like The Simpsons is one of my all time favorite shows too.

I left that off the list just because.

I

Lisa Hale

don't count animated as sitcoms, even though they kind of aren't.

Pete Schwaba

They are.

Yeah.

I don't know why.

All right.

So number five for me is All in a Family, All in the Family, I should say.

OK.

classic Norman Lear.

Number four, the American office, even though it was derived from the British office, which at that time was one of my all-time favorite shows, 12 episodes.

That was it.

And it was all tight.

In some ways, I admire more what they did in America because they had to fill an entire season.

And I thought they did that beautifully.

So I kind of tipped my hat to that show.

I thought it was great.

And I love Steve Carell.

Lisa Hale

I think the reason why I didn't get as much into the American office as I should have is spending time in the corporate world.

I didn't want to see it.

Pete Schwaba

It hurt.

It hurt to watch.

Number three, modern family.

Love modern family.

Love Cam and Gloria.

I just think and Phil Dunphy loved the show.

Oh yeah.

Number two, cheers.

Okay, go wrong a staple in American sitcoms and then number one I had to go Seinfeld because I just think it was groundbreaking for network TV at the time

Lisa Hale

It was groundbreaking.

I have to give Seinfeld that it was ground-breaking.

There was times when I didn't find it funny But there were other times when I just lost it

Pete Schwaba

and

Lisa Hale

could not stop laughing

Pete Schwaba

This is so much fun, always.

And please forgive me for keeping you so long.

I will be cognizant of your time next.

I just, I cannot believe when we start yakking away, it's like all of a sudden we haven't even talked about one thing yet and we're like 20 minutes into the conversation.

So thank you.

Lisa Hale

What happens because we have such similar tastes.

Pete Schwaba

Exactly.

And you're just, you're a great conversationalist and I love your tastes and your opinions on movies and TV.

So it's always, and spiders for that matter.

Lisa Hale

And spiders.

Pete Schwaba

Always so much fun, my friend.

Keep doing a great job here.

media.

Love listening to you on the radio.

And next time we do this, I'll get you out of here sooner.

Lisa Hale

Hey, whatever floats your boat.

Pete Schwaba

All

Lisa Hale

right,

Pete Schwaba

Conrad, we're keeping her for the whole show.

Thank you, ma'am.

Have a great New Year's and we'll talk to you soon.

Lisa Hale

All

Pete Schwaba

right, thanks.

That's Lisa Hale, folks.

She does outstanding work here at Civic Media, and she's always fun to have on the show.

Coming up in just a few minutes after the news, Kristen Lighty will be here, a Northeast Wisconsin-based comedian.

She's going to tell us where we can see her.

She's a very funny comedian.

She'll be playing locally for New Year's Eve here in Northeast Wisconsin, but she's got a lot of other dates coming up, too.

And we'll talk to her about what she's been up to as well, lots to talk about in the way of comedy and New Year's Eve fast approaching.

Um, so this was kind of strange count.

What do you, where do you fall on this list?

You've got Netflix or another streaming platform, 35% of Americans.

That's how they'll spend their New Year's Eve.

24% will go to a party.

20 will catch up on sleep.

And, uh, the rest 10% will scroll through social media on their phones.

Yeah, that sounds awesome.

Scrolling on your social media for New Year's.

Pete Schwaba

How about you do that while you're watching a streaming platform?

You get to kill two birds with one stone.

You know, I think the Netflix one will be a little bit higher this year.

Yeah, because of Stranger Things.

Yeah, with the two-hour movie that they're putting out for the last episode.

What are you going to do?

Are you going to see it in the theater?

Are you going to watch it at home?

I do want to go see it in theater kind of, but also, I don't know.

I'm going to a party and one of my friends in Milwaukee, so.

Pete Schwaba

Same.

Not to that party, but I'm gonna party it up and then I'm gonna crash at your huge apartment before your lease There's nothing in there so you can sleep on the floor By the way, the remaining 11% said other or no preference So just sitting in silence just a bunch of bums.

They don't want to do anything Just sitting in silence and just that's it pulling a putty and staring at the wall the putty character of course from Seinfeld

Um, so there you go.

That breaks it down.

I'll be going to a party and probably watching Stranger Things because I'll probably ring

in

Pete Schwaba

the new year at 11 because there will be some younger kids at this party and the parents will have to leave.

Uh, and then I'll probably watch Stranger Things with the kids.

We'll go home.

It's two hours.

Two hours long.

That's not too bad.

I can handle that.

A new year's eve.

I can handle it.

Yeah.

We, you know, I'm definitely, as soon as, uh, I get home the next day, I'm instant.

I think.

Either I'm gonna go with the Aiders or watch it at home.

I haven't decided yet, but

Pete Schwaba

I'm watching it.

You're definitely gonna save it for New Year's Day.

What about football?

Football?

Pete Schwaba

Yeah.

There's football in a New Year's Day, right?

And we don't need it.

Oh, wow.

That's so much to this stranger things.

That's from

Pete Schwaba

the sport dude himself, Conrad, just downplayed football on New Year's Day.

But yeah, this is like the big deal.

I mean, there's a brilliant marketing tactic.

Oh, yeah.

It came

Pete Schwaba

out.

Thanksgiving with four episodes three episodes were released on Christmas Eve This is the last season and then they're going out with a bang with two episodes on New Year's Eve.

I think it's brilliant So we'll do that.

I'm gonna tell you at some point I got to get to these two This is the the top cities for New Year's Eve.

If we have time we'll get to that tonight.

It's Marinette on there Christmas City USA is not on the New Year's list.

I know it's a bummer.

There were two

Uh, Wisconsin City's on there though in the top 50.

Keywascom?

Keywascom is not on there.

Uh, it's because people like you move.

The true party animals leave.

Yeah, that's true.

That's true.

And, uh, but that's as good a city as any to watch Stranger Things in.

So, uh, ladies and gentlemen, coming up after the news, comedian Kristen Lighty will be here in the studio.

We'll get caught up with Kristen and find out where you can see her on New Year's Eve.

That's coming up next.

This is Night Light with Peach Waba on the Civic Media Radio Network.

And I thank God I'm alive.

You're just too good to be true.

Can't take my eyes off you.

Hey, this is Jamie McChain, and you're listening to Nightlight with Pete Schwabba.

Pete Schwaba

Ladies and gentlemen, we are halfway through this evening live shows tonight and tomorrow and then taking a few days off the rest of the week to ring in the new year with family and friends.

Hopefully you all have great parties to go to and will be safe out there.

Such a fun week the week between Christmas and New Year's so fun We had to invite our next guest to come in here and join us in the studio She's been here several times before and she makes me laugh and she's on top of all that.

She's a very nice person The very nice comedian

Thank you.

That's

Pete Schwaba

a

great intro.

Pete Schwaba

Well, you know, it's all goes downhill after

that.

Pete Schwaba

You know, right now it's going well.

Absolutely.

I had a doctor's appointment this morning and I made the nurses laugh and that always feels like

Pete Schwaba

yes.

Oh, so.

Pete Schwaba

Can I can I ask you to elaborate like did you tell a joke?

Did you how did you do that?

I try to just sneak in little aside.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, like

little funny comments, and they'll always pause for a moment and then Like yes, I got him

Pete Schwaba

like do they know you're a comedian.

No,

Pete Schwaba

no, okay.

No that would break the rule

Pete Schwaba

Is that okay?

Is that a rule because I feel like if if I made someone laugh

So my urge would be to go, hey, you can see me New Year's Eve, just to get some more butts in the seats.

See, you're better

at marketing than me.

I should have had you tag team there.

I

Pete Schwaba

was never that good at it.

But I did learn when I was a standup that you have to be, especially when I moved to LA, you had to.

you had to promote yourself because no one else is gonna do it.

So are you, you're not

a fan of doing

Pete Schwaba

that

typically?

I just don't think about it and I'm not good at it and I love the idea.

I'm a 90s kid so I came out of like everything is organic

Pete Schwaba

and if it's

meant to be, it'll happen.

You just gotta follow your path and don't be a corporate sellout and now I'm learning corporate sellouts, make a lot of money.

Pete Schwaba

Well and you have an advantage because with what you do, you can bring that to someone else's day.

Rarely does a nurse or a physician's assistant get to.

Inject themselves into people's lives.

I suppose if there was an accident or something horrible, they could do that.

Yeah, that's true.

My injection is more fun.

Pete Schwaba

You could show up and tell jokes at a car accident.

Hey, I think we need a little laughter here.

It's great to have you here.

How have you been?

How are things going?

I've been so good.

I am officially engaged.

Yeah, he made an honest woman out of me.

Pete Schwaba

Look at that.

Well,

congratulations.

Yeah, he did it in Mexico after a cemetery tour that we run.

I feel like he knows me so well.

Pete Schwaba

Cemetery tour, like you could make the obvious joke there, you know, I hope, you know, whatever it is, but you like cemeteries.

They're kind of

fascinating.

Yeah, he tells me any trip we go on, he just Googles that city and haunted and finds something for us to do that he knows how love and he's never been wrong.

Pete Schwaba

Did he propose at the cemetery?

He

did,

Pete Schwaba

yeah.

Whoa, do you think that could be a bad omen in any way?

No, actually, they said in Mexico, it's really good luck.

So he didn't even know that.

So we're just on that right path.

Pete Schwaba

All right, very good.

When's the big day?

We're thinking October 2027.

We

Pete Schwaba

just

moved into a new house and we have to put a lawn in.

We have to save a little money.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, we gotta save up for that open bar.

Yeah, you gotta have open bar, right?

Here's what I.

I was warned, I got married in Wisconsin too, my wife is from here, and they said don't do open bar, because Wisconsinites love to sample drinks and use that opportunity.

I've never had a Harvey Wallbanger before, let me try it and I'll take one sip, but I didn't find that to be the case.

No, they will always finish a drink.

Pete Schwaba

Correct.

We are talking about Wisconsinites here.

Are you a native Wisconsinite?

I am.

I

Pete Schwaba

was

actually, I grew up in Green Bay and then lived there until 2008, 2008 to 2018.

I lived in Chicago and then I came back

Pete Schwaba

in

2018.

Pete Schwaba

So what your husband to be, is he supportive of your stand up career?

Is he a stand up?

What is his line?

Oh, he is absolutely supportive.

Like I've never met a man that was more ride or die that supports me

Pete Schwaba

so much.

He loves going

to shows.

He loves going to open mics.

He'll even go.

to open mics with

me when we're on

vacation.

I know.

I was

like, you're the best.

Yeah.

And he loves coming to shows.

He loves meeting all the comedians.

And, you know, sometimes he'll give me a note or two and it's helpful.

And sometimes when shows don't go well, he'll give me the, you did your best champ.

And that

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always

feels good

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too.

I love this guy.

This sounds like a great catch.

So congratulations.

So.

Alright, so I have to ask you before we get into the comedy, the nuts and bolts of the comedy racket, do you have a favorite card game?

Yes, I love War.

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Oh nice, okay.

Yeah, just

a real quick, like no thought really, just bam, bam, bam.

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One of those games that you don't glaze over when people are telling you what the rules are because it's so simple.

Yeah, if you got more than three rules, I'm out.

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What is the rule with the ace though in War?

Is it lower high?

I think it's high.

I think it actually

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depends

on who you're playing with.

I think you call it from the beginning.

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Okay.

So what if you're playing with a cheater?

Yeah, yeah, you

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gotta watch out for those

cheaters.

Although the Lighty family, they loved poker.

I learned poker before I was six.

So that was

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maybe

indicative of problems.

I don't

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know.

Jeez, no kidding.

What what poke like Texas hold them or the various

change the diaper was a big one.

I

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don't

even remember it now.

I just remember the name made me giggle

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and play hold them.

My dad does.

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My dad can

walk into any casino and win five hundred dollars.

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I did

not inherit that gift.

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I love Texas Hold'em, that's my game.

I don't know.

Oh yeah, me and my dad, we get along.

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We would.

We could become a force.

But what's the change to diaper?

How does that

happen?

I don't remember.

I'll

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have to

Google it later.

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My great

grandma would be so disappointed in me.

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Is she listening?

No, she's long gone.

But I'm sorry, Hazel.

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Oh, that's a great name for a great grandma.

All right, so tell us about, you got a great gig coming up.

Locally, love that too.

Tell us where you will be.

New Year's Eve.

Yeah, New Year's Eve.

It's going to be a change.

I won't be in bed by 10.

I'm going to be at Skyline Comedy featuring for John Caperulo.

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Tell us about this night.

Okay, this is either two shows or one, will you be on stage at midnight ringing in the new year?

You

know, there's gonna be two shows, one starting at seven, one starting at 10, 30.

So

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yeah.

It's a big, you can get a nap in between.

Yeah, I hope

so.

We're gonna be doing, I'll be doing like 25 to 30 minutes, I imagine.

And then John is in

a

row.

Yes,

in a row, yes.

Whoa, that's impressive.

Yes, and then John is a force of nature.

He'll probably get up there and do an hour 20 or something.

He's so funny.

He's got such a huge catalog of jokes.

He's really, really wonderful.

If you haven't seen him, you should come on out.

He is just like the sweetest, funniest dad.

He draws comic books.

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He's

really great.

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So is he a clean comic for the most part?

You know, he's not.

Overly dirty, but he's definitely not a hundred percent clean.

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Okay.

Let's say he kind of strides the line

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What about you?

Where do you fall in that?

Are you

you know?

I I don't like limitations

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and I

don't like being told I have to do clean comedy I usually will like not do those shows, but the majority of my comedy is not really dirty

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I'm with you.

That's a great answer actually.

Do you find we were talking about this a little bit before you came on I always loved and I had spent years since I've done what you're doing, but

I loved opening for someone who had a following because when the crowd shows up there

They're ready to just listen and not heckle and be jackasses or over drink.

They pay to see the show and that's what it should be every night.

They're so well behaved and so on board and so excited to be there.

Like a lot of times if you're opening for someone that doesn't have a following, it's like prove yourself to me,

you know,

and there's this attitude within the crowd and you got to break them and bring them on board.

But opening for Brian Posey and John Caparillo, Kristen Key, you know, they have such a huge following that it just like.

It feels like getting into a warm bath.

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It

feels

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so

welcoming.

Yeah, because it's like this idea that if the person they're there to see trusts you, they trust you.

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That's a, wow, great answer.

How did you get connected with this, John Capparulo?

Yeah.

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Did he choose you to be on the show, or is it?

You know,

I submitted to Skyline a few years ago, and we just hit it off.

I think we're both quiet nerds, and we enjoyed the energy we bring

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to

the green room.

So a lot of times when he's come back, he has selected me to be his feature, which I'm very grateful for.

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That's excellent.

And listen, when you're headlining, you want that.

you want someone who's gonna set the table, right?

That's kind of your whole job.

Get him riled up and then he comes in and closes and it's great.

Oh, absolutely.

We

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were talking about this too.

New Year's Eve used to be, you couldn't not work it if you were a comedian because it paid so well like double or triple sometimes

even.

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But you said it's a little more now.

Yeah, I would say it's about 50% more than

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you

make on an average night.

But of course that probably varies throughout the country.

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No, will your fiance be at the show?

He will,

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yeah.

Okay, so that's good.

See, sometimes I would travel, and then it's me and the other guy who I don't really know that well on midnight ringing in the new year, and all these couples are hugging and kissing and popping champagne, and it's like, shake hands and saying, all right, come back to the hotel, you know?

Yeah, do a face bump.

Exactly.

Yeah, except he's normally in bed by nine, so I don't know how he's gonna do a 1030 show.

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Oh, wow.

We'll see.

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My wife and I are like that.

I'll stay up.

to like one o'clock or whatever.

And now the kids are home, so we're all staying up watching movies and she's in bed.

She can't make it past 10 o'clock and she feels like left out.

So I'll tell you.

Someone's gotta wake up

early and take the mom shift.

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I'll tell her you said

that.

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You got sympathy tonight.

Hey, Kristen Lighty is my guest.

She's a very funny comedian from here in northeast Wisconsin, Green Bay born and raised and kicking it out in the burbs these days.

But you can see her at the Skyline Comedy.

Is it the Comedy Club or Comedy Cafe?

I

think it is comedy cafe.

They

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do serve a

mean pretzel bite.

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But you can see her there.

New Year's Eve.

Tell us what other gigs do you have.

I was looking at your schedule.

pretty full play.

Yeah, I'm really excited.

In two weeks, I'm going to be out in San Diego and I'm going there for work.

So I just kind of like threw a last minute line

out nice

and comedy Heights is a really great theater show there.

They're having me on again.

I was I did their show a few years back.

So it's always nice to go back.

They run a really fun room.

So I'll be there the 16th and 17th.

And then at the end of this month, we are doing Don't Tell shows, which are

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pop-up shows.

I love that's such a great concept.

Yeah, we're doing those the last weekend of January, Friday will be in Appleton and Saturday will be in Green Bay and the location's a secret.

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So I know that I've had people like from Comedy City on the show and stand-ups on the show.

Is it a mixture sometimes of improv and stand-up?

Do you ever do that, or is it typically this or typically that?

You know, for the don't-tells, we do strictly stand-up,

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but John

Egan is one of the co-producers, and he is an improv phenom, so maybe we should, I don't know if we could incorporate that, maybe.

That might be fun.

I'd love to be a

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phenom of some sort.

I think John is the first time I heard that from, that term, don't-tell comedy.

Oh, yeah.

I just thought it was such a great...

That's so great.

Yeah, John's

awesome.

And Trevor Klumpner also helped

us run it.

Oh,

Trevor

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was here just a couple of weeks ago, yeah.

Did

you introduce me to Trevor?

I did.

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Okay.

Do you get commission for that?

No.

I mean, I do

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now.

This is a fist bump.

All right, so you've got another really cool date coming up in March.

I know it's a ways out, but, and Conrad might know this guy, Brian Pussain.

Yeah, Brian's

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the best.

Tell us about

Brian.

Oh, he is so funny.

He really came to fame in the 90s as a standup and...

You know, like we were talking about earlier, 90s kids is someone who just followed his own individual narrative.

He

loves metal.

He loves comic books.

And yeah, and he's grown an immense following of fellow nerds that love him.

And he is so funny and such a delight to work with.

I'm really excited for March.

Those shows were supposed to happen in August.

Oh, because last year we did a run couple of runs together.

We did a theater in Minnesota, Minneapolis.

Just a wonderful time.

You know, getting to open for Brian's people is amazing.

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That's so cool.

And he's on the show.

Was it Big Bang Theory or Young's Shoulder?

Oh, yes.

Yeah.

He was

on Big Bang Theory.

And now they're doing a spin-off, which is why the August show's got canceled.

He had to

film because he's famous.

Wouldn't that

be so.

But it's called Stewart Saves the World, and it's on HBO Max.

It's going to be premiering, I think, next month.

Pete Schwaba

Have you seen that con?

Are you a Brian Poseid fan?

I mean, kind of.

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Yeah.

It seems like you could have, even if you had to lie a little bit there.

But

yeah, Stuart saves the universe, I think, and it's going to be more like adult humor, whereas the Big Bang was more like, you know, network friendly.

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Absolutely.

All right, so you've got three ships brewery in Sheboygan too.

We've got about 30 seconds before we do a break and we'll come back and talk with more with Kristen, but what is that a good?

That seems like a really cool room.

Yeah, I haven't

done it yet.

I'm really excited.

Mike Maxwell asked me to do it, so I'm looking forward

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to that.

Oh, that's so great.

All right, we'll talk about a few of Kristen's dates when we come back, and I'll probably most likely ask you what you're watching on TV.

Sure.

A little more comedy, have a few laughs.

It's going to get crazier.

Don't go away.

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Pete Schwaba

Do you feel the earth move under your feet whenever you hear her music?

Well, my feet are on the board right now, so.

Yeah, because

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you're

mailing it in.

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All right, Kristen Lighty is here, folks.

She's a very funny Green Bay based stand-up comic, and she will be at the Skyline Comedy Cafe or Club.

It's whatever you want it to be.

Yeah, right.

If you're paying the money, they probably don't care either.

She will be there New Year's Eve with, tell me the headlanders

name.

John Caperulo.

John

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Caperulo.

I have a good friend named John Caponera and I always want to go there.

Very close.

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Very

close.

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So you can see her there or at many of her other dates, she's got to don't ask or don't tell.

Don't ask, don't tell.

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Don't even think about

it.

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You walk in, they will not ask you your sexual orientation or your sexual preference.

That is my vow to you.

That's at the end of the month, and then you've got March, you'll be back at the skyline, opening for Brian Pussain, which should be an absolute

blast.

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All right, I'm gonna kind of marry your world here, Kristen, because you've got...

you do a lot of work with unions.

Teachers unions in particular, which I applaud you for.

My wife is a teacher.

And since we moved right back here after they dissipated the unions

in

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Wisconsin, and I see it now, they have at least, it feels like they have no power.

And

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sometimes.

So, but let's, let's take that and go the comedy route.

Could there ever be a union in stand of comedy?

Cause I was telling you during the break about how I led kind of a boycott more than a strike against comedy clubs in Chicago years and years ago.

Could that happen?

And how would that happen?

Yeah, actually, a lot of comics want to talk about this because, you know, pay rates really haven't changed since the 1970s.

The thing is, like, for a comedian, you need to really take hold and be effective.

Comedians have to say no.

to certain standards.

And I think the thing is most difficult is you still have comedians out there that will do a lot of work for exposure for free.

So we're really underselling ourselves.

So like collectively, we would have to come to the decision like these are the standards we want to see maintained and no one is going to go around those standards for stage time, which.

It's tough.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And you got a lot of people out there.

You know, they have rich parents who are fundraising for them, so they don't need to make those minimums.

Pete Schwaba

You are so right about that too.

I always say that when I moved to LA, I was so blown away by the amount of...

people that live there and their apartment was paid for by their parents.

Like poor kids don't go into the arts unless they're pushed at an elementary school level, I think.

So that's interesting.

Could it work if you, like you say, there's always going to be someone willing to work for less just to get seen or whatever?

Could you have a union or like a SAG aftertype thing that comedians

can get into after they've done so many years, so they would respect that?

Is that a possibility?

You know, I think there would be potential there with the collective buying power in terms of the unit getting something like the insurance, you know, like SEG does, that people are really interested in.

So I think there is potential there.

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Okay, I just always thought that was interesting because you're right The the money at least not for first-time headliners has not gone up and probably 30 years or more It's still the same rate and it's like minimum wage not going up since I worked at McDonald's in the 80s.

It's like

It was like seven bucks an hour or something right now

Yeah, and I feel like it's detrimental to the art form because if you're not having the voices of working people the narrative within comedy then gets sort of unhinged from reality

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Yes, my dad is such a jerk.

He didn't let me take the Lamborghini.

You

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can't relate to that unless the comedy club is just called the one percenters Then they wouldn't have to paper the room at least because everybody have the money

Alright, so let's talk about when did you, who are your influences when you started doing stand-up?

Yeah, actually, when I started doing stand-up, it was probably about 13 years ago, but I really grew up on Bill Hicks, George Carlin, you know, with my grandpa and my dad listening to those on vinyl.

Wow, cool.

But it felt like it wasn't something normal people could do.

You had to be preordained by the gods, and

then you got

your HBO special.

So it wasn't until I moved to Chicago that I saw how terrible open mics are that

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I was like, wow,

anyone can do

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this.

Bill Hicks, a legend, George Carlin, a legend.

Those are pretty big shoes to fill.

Did your dad ever see you do stand up knowing that he liked really edgy comics and legends?

Were you intimidated to have him come to a show?

No, actually, my parents have always been super supportive of my comedy.

So, like, Dad comes to shows quite a bit and really enjoys it.

So,

it's always been nice.

Like, I opened for Bobcat Goalsway a couple months ago, and the way my father shoved me out of the way to meet Bobcat was like, wait a minute.

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Does your dad like your husband to be?

That's the biggest problem.

Yes, very

much.

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Oh,

my God, he gets this far away look in his eye, and he says, Rick is so tall.

Okay.

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More specifically, who are your favorite female comics?

Oh, yeah.

I would say, you know, within the state, we have Chastity Washington, Sasha Rosser, Reagan Neymar, Luis Noe there.

Hilarious and

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I was watching the show.

Thank you very funny

mm-hmm, and then nationally, you know Jackie Cation is a

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home

state hero

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from

Milwaukee originally so funny I got to work with her a couple months back and Maria Bamford is my number one She's the white whale of comedians.

I want to work with

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boy.

You got great like

You're so on the right track when those are your favorite comedies, right?

Like just from when you started, if those were your personal heroes, what great influences?

Yeah, I feel like I just love people who aren't afraid to say it like it is.

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Yeah.

Well, keep up the great work.

Your book, Union Town, where can people get that?

Yeah, you can send me a message on Instagram.

I'll probably

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just give

you a copy for free.

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Wow.

It was just sort of a passion project I put out with my friend Whitney Watson, who illustrates sober rabbit.

And we did a...

I wrote sort of a zine of essays about my reflections of working in organized labor for the past 15, 20 years, and they illustrated it in the style of Busy Town by Richard Scarey.

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Kristen Leidy, keep up the great work on and off stage.

Thank you.

Let's have you back soon.

Maybe before Prime Cassane.

Oh yeah, I'd love to.

Hell yeah.

Pete Schwaba

Kristen Leidy, ladies and gentlemen, check her out at the...

whatever the club, cafe, commissary, the Skyline Commissary.

Skyline Comedy Food Court.

New Year's Eve, folks.

You don't want to miss it.

We are coming right back.

We'll reset the show and have Desmond Rooney here to also talk about New Year's Eve.

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