Eggnog Debates and Bears vs. Packers Showdown (Hour 2)

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Eggnog Debates and Bears vs. Packers Showdown (Hour 2)

Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Fri Dec 19, 2025

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Welcome to Night Light.

Peach Wabba

It is Friday, ladies and gentlemen, you made it to the weekend, and hopefully we can help you transition from your work day, which I'm sure was hectic around this time of year, into the weekend.

And a Big Bear Packer game this weekend, some great movies opening, so much going on here in the state of Wisconsin.

The Christmas State, as I like to call it, it is great to have you here.

We've got a fun show tonight, lots going on.

I'm gonna introduce you to a young, middle school-aged judo champ.

That is going to be really fun.

I'm excited to have my first guest on Ileon Hoskins.

He joins us at 535 over the stream.

He just competed at the Pan Am Games in, man, was it Venezuela?

I don't remember, but we'll have him on and we'll talk to him.

He did very well.

I'll have him tell you how he did and just talk, have a general discussion with this kid who's just kind of a...

Wonder Kid.

It's going to be fun.

And then we've got Bear Packer talk in hour number two with the guys from Make the Call, Gray and Parker and Conrad and also Dom Lee will join.

Dom is the producer of John and Gordy on WMDX and the network here and we'll talk Bear Packers, Bear's Packers and Dom is going to be on my side for that because I'm a Bear's fan, Dom's a Bear's fan and we'll be outnumbered but it'll be a fun discussion.

That's at 635.

And then in hour number three, ladies and gentlemen, it is Friday, as I mentioned, and that means it's time for Terry Bar.

It's Terry Bar time.

It's Barman Friday night.

That's coming up in hour number three.

One of my favorite nights of the week.

Definitely top five.

My kid, Terry's awesome.

And it's a fantastic segment that she brings.

every week with great music and fun conversation.

And I'm glad you're here because we got a great question.

We are going to answer the age old.

You know what, Con?

Let's get to the question right away tonight so people have time to respond and we can catch up on some text from last night as well too.

This is the night like question of the night.

Let's

Conrad

talk about the question.

Okay, question.

Question.

Question.

Question.

Question.

Okay, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Peach Wabba

Question.

Conrad

Question.

Peach Wabba

Very simple question.

Eggnog.

Yes or no?

It's just that simple.

Tell us how you feel about Eggnog.

You could do more than yes or no.

You could elaborate a little bit why you love Eggnog or dislike Eggnog.

Have fun with it.

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Always fun to see who's following.

And folks, this is like, I admit, I was wrong.

I thought Conrad did not like Eggnog, but you're a huge fan.

All right, so

Conrad

listen.

How could I have gotten that wrong?

Listen to this, all right?

Yeah.

I want it to be like.

Clark Griswold, all right, when I was younger.

All right, I wanted to drink that eggnog in that mousse glass.

Peach Wabba

Slurp it.

Conrad

Have it in the huge punch bowl and just have it in the, you know, over there on the table.

Okay,

Announcer

fair

Conrad

enough.

I do really like eggnog.

I, you know, it's, it's funny that some people just don't like to taste, but I just, it does kind of taste like a dessert drink to me.

Yeah, I

Peach Wabba

agree with you there.

Conrad

And I enjoy it.

Obviously only during this time of year.

I don't drink it during summer, you know, I'll just be weird.

Peach Wabba

After like a workout, slam some eggnog.

You'd have to probably stock up at the holidays anyway.

I mean, they don't even sell it year round, do they?

Conrad

You know, there's so many different, like, protein, you know, flavors.

Peach Wabba

Yeah.

It'd

Conrad

be hilarious if they actually had an eggnog-like protein flavor.

And people actually, like, people would probably... I'm gonna get that in July.

Absolutely.

I think

Peach Wabba

they

Conrad

would.

That sounds like a crime.

Peach Wabba

Exactly.

So last night's question, folks, was who was your favorite, uh...

Christmas movie character, and I neglected to read some of our social media responses.

So I'm gonna jam through those because I don't like to let responses go unnoticed or unappreciated.

So the responses to last night's question, who is your favorite Christmas character from a movie?

Sean on the, these are all social media responses.

He says, old Sam He-Ha Wainwright from It's a Wonderful Life.

Great one, Sean.

Yeah, he's the guy that always said He-Ha.

Have you seen the

Conrad

movie?

Yes,

Peach Wabba

I

Conrad

haven't seen it in a while though.

Peach Wabba

And a lot of people said Mary Bailey, but they were all on social media.

Jenny Brand from Civic Media says, Mary Bailey, it's a wonderful life.

She's a true hero.

No question about that, Jenny.

Mike Corwin, Clark Griswold.

Mike joins me.

I think Mike and I are the only two that chose, did anybody

Conrad

else choose Clark Griswold

Peach Wabba

last

Conrad

night?

I think there might have been one on the text line, but I don't think there's that many.

Okay.

Nick Wallender, Ellen Griswold.

I mean, she's great too.

Love Ellen Griswold.

I love when she's smoking a cigarette, you know, in the kitchen and her mom was, are you smoking again?

Peach Wabba

No!

She was, I love Beverly D'Angelo's, I'm totally with Nick there.

Erika Larson shared a funny meme of the Muppets in their Christmas special, great choice.

Derek Fister, what's his name?

Hans.

Is it Hans from Die Hard?

Conrad

I actually...

I don't remember anything by heart.

I haven't

Peach Wabba

seen it in so long.

Jeremy, I can't think of his name, but he passed away not too long ago.

I'm totally blanking.

Another vote, Brett Kissinger.

Our pal says, Clark Griswold, great one.

Conrad, oh, you said the sticky bandits.

That's from Home Alone

Conrad

2.

Peach Wabba

Danny Weals says, Hermie, the misfit dentist.

Love that.

Thank you, Dan.

Janet on social media agrees with Daniel.

Lisa Hale, our pal, Lisa.

Who covers news here at WGBW and WIS?

That says, Ma Otter and Emmett Otter's Jug Band Christmas.

I don't know that one.

I've never seen that, yeah.

But I'm not surprised Lisa found something that was not on the beaten path.

Janet from social media says, first thing I thought of was Hermie the dentist from Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer.

Maybe it's the hair.

He's got good hair.

He's got the Trump wave going there.

It's crazy hair.

Janet also says, I realized I didn't read the instructions that said movie.

That's okay, Janet, we accept that.

She says, in that case, it would be Darren McAvan and a Christmas story.

We were talking about that last night at how we thought Christmas story didn't get a lot of votes for the dad or the kid.

It got a few, but.

And our pal, Eric Rathsak from Ask Your Mother says, top three, Buddy the Elf, cousin Eddie, Frank Cross, Bill Murray from Scrooge, awesome stuff.

But tonight's question, folks.

Eggnog.

Yes or no.

Feel free to elaborate too.

I saw this.

I didn't really understand how popular Eggnog was, state to state, or the discrepancy there could be.

Do you know what state it's the most popular in?

Conrad

What state?

Peach Wabba

Vermont.

No, I'm sorry, New Hampshire.

Okay.

I knew it was one of those small states.

Not Rhode Island?

It's one of those small states where when they were making the map, they thought,

We don't know how far this goes.

Then they realized how big the country was.

They just make the whole damn thing in the state.

Yeah, no, it's not Rhode Island, but it's close, New Hampshire.

Nearby Vermont is second, followed by Alaska, Maine, Oregon, Wyoming, Utah, Washington State, Wisconsin's ninth.

We made the top 10.

Conrad

I need to drink more eggnog.

Yeah.

Peach Wabba

You could maybe boost us up to like number seven or something.

New Mexico is 10th.

So there you go.

I guess I'm not.

I figure like the cold weather states would be the most popular eggnog states, but the bottom states are New Jersey, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Illinois, all cold weather states.

That's where eggnog is least popular in California, Texas, Oklahoma.

Other surges.

During the holidays in particular foods ready for this kind I'm ready.

You still here, okay rich red meats Okay, like rib eye roasts

Announcer

prime rib tenderloin

Peach Wabba

roast that does not surprise me at all fruit cake Got no use for fruit cake Keep the fruit out of the cake.

Yeah, they're both fine products.

Don't mix them Gingerbread cookies love gingerbread cookies same and ant acids for the aftermath

I was surprised there, but they said that the state that supposedly in Alaska's on that list, Maine, Hawaii is not.

Hawaii does not like eggnog.

Okay.

Fair enough.

All right.

I want you to tell the story.

These funny news stories we have.

Tell us, Con, about the guy who ripped off very expensive jewelry.

And what did he do not to get caught?

Conrad

All right.

Okay, I actually don't got the full story in front of me.

Oh.

Do you got- He swallowed jewels,

Peach Wabba

and the cops are waiting for him to pass the- the- the jewels.

And they're not, uh, they're not kidney stones.

They might be different kind of stones.

But anyway, they're following this guy around, waiting for him, because that's the evidence.

Conrad

Well, yeah, they took him into custody.

Yeah.

And now they're just watching him.

Peach Wabba

Now they're waiting for the custody.

That was swell.

It was terrible.

Here's another one I love.

Conrad found this one on Christmas Eve in 2019.

It was reported that David Wayne Oliver robbed a Colorado bank only to throw all of the stolen cash in the air while exclaiming Merry Christmas.

He's trying to be like Santa.

He's trying to be like a big shot.

And kind of Robin Hood asked to those who happen to be passing by the opportune moment, the 65, 65.

Robbing a bank just to do that insanity

Conrad

I'm just confused.

I wish there was more that I It was a it happened in 2019 so I didn't get too much of this

Peach Wabba

breaking news

Conrad

But I really how did he even rob the bank in the first place?

Yeah, I want to know and did you go?

Give me all the money and give it to other people 65 I

Peach Wabba

just retired give me all your money I'm on my pension.

I don't need it.

I'm giving it to others

He was arrested

Conrad

don't arrest me no arrest the people that took the money from me

Peach Wabba

They're robbing him.

Yeah, they arrested him at a nearby Starbucks Where I'm guessing he blew all the money on a large coffee.

Conrad

I was gonna say on that bear mug that they sold

Peach Wabba

insanity Crazy,

Conrad

where did you find that?

I just typed in weird Christmas stories.

Peach Wabba

Okay Here's kind of a bummer of a Christmas story You're ready for this Seinfeld

On Christmas Day in 1997, that's when he told the cast and crew the show was over.

They were gonna, and I believe it, finished in spring of 98.

So on Christmas Day in 1997, Jerry Seinfeld took it upon himself to say, the show's over.

Merry Christmas everybody.

Conrad

Imagine he put it in like everyone's gift.

It's like, all right, here's a saw book, but look at the note on the back.

Peach Wabba

You're done.

You're going for like a Joe DiMaggio hitting streak with the sawbuck.

Trying to mention sawbuck every night.

I think you should keep it going.

I love

Conrad

it.

Whenever I can mention it, it'll be mentioned.

Peach Wabba

I don't know if I believe this story 100% though.

He's, uh, Seinfeld said, I wanted to end the show on the same kind of peak we've been doing it on for years.

Um, he says I wanted to be, uh, from a point of strength.

I wanted to end and be graceful.

Okay.

So he told people on Christmas day, but I don't know if I believe that.

First of all, what did he do?

Send an email?

Like, nobody's working on Christmas Day.

What if he made everyone go in to do a shoot?

Call them in to work and then just hold them.

Merry Christmas, everybody.

You're done.

I'm just

Conrad

kidding, guys.

No one's acting today.

Just list.

You know, you're all done.

Peach Wabba

Update your resumes, suckers.

Get those LinkedIn profiles going.

Yeah, I don't know.

That's crazy.

I like Seinfeld.

He's a brilliant observationalist because that's the basis of all of his comedy, was observational comedy.

But as he gets older, he's kind of crabby and I don't... They might still be brilliant, but I just don't like him.

I don't think he's as fun to listen to as he used to be.

Just old and crabby.

But whatever.

All right, so eggnog.

Yes or no, that is tonight's question of the night.

And we're going to do a very short break here, folks.

News and weather and sports is coming up at 5.35.

And then we will talk to young judo champ Ileon Hoskins.

We'll be here tonight, late tonight, for the first time.

Very excited to talk to this young man.

And after this break, I'm going to tell you the top five pizza days of the year.

That's all coming up.

So you need to know when to order pizza folks and when to be cool when you get that sawbuck

Conrad

out

Peach Wabba

Yeah, what you've already dude you've already got the sawbuck criterion.

We're coming right back as nightlight with peach wabba on the civic media radio network

Pete Schwab (host)

Welcome back.

News, sports and weather is just about seven minutes away, folks.

We will keep you updated here.

I am Pete Schwab.

This is Nightlight Conrad Krieger, producing the show tonight, working the board.

This is what?

Social media.

It's just awesome sometimes because where else?

Like I never this guy posted something about waffle house.

I never would have Found this if we were still in the world of newspapers or radio pure just straight-up radio, but social media This story I found this is can a guy from the UK says as a 51 year old British man who had never visited the States I was

especially excited to visit the Waffle House upon everything I had heard over the years.

For most of the night, I was slightly disappointed and underwhelmed.

It was just me quietly enjoying my hash browns and coffee while everything seemed normal.

Then out of nowhere, I heard a woman scream,

I don't know if I can say this word biatch stop emailing my man and suddenly two large women were locked in a full-on brawl right by the counter one of them cracked the other over the head with a napkin holder and just like that It was over the staff barely batted an eye As I was recovering from the shock my waitress leaned over and said another Tuesday night at the waffle house He gives it five stars Wow.

Oh my gosh

I spent a few nights in waffle houses.

Conrad Krieger (producer)

So, um... You know, I gotta say, with reviews, it's kind of funny sometimes.

Like, people just totally make up stories and stuff.

Pete Schwab (host)

Yeah.

That had nothing to do with the food.

Conrad Krieger (producer)

Look, it's just funny.

That's like, is this true or not?

Do I go to this store or not?

Right.

On the off chance, it's real.

I'll stay away.

Pete Schwab (host)

Yeah, I don't know.

It could be making up.

Either way, it was funny to read that.

Just to watch two girls square off in a waffle house while this fine gent is eating at the counter.

What do you think Conrad, the top five pizza days in 2025 war?

This is from the Vegas Insider.

The

Conrad Krieger (producer)

top five, I'd say definitely one July 4th.

Then Memorial Day.

Valentine's Day.

Pete Schwab (host)

Big Spender.

Conrad Krieger (producer)

July 30th.

Bingo.

That's your top four.

And then let's see the last one I'd say.

Thanksgiving Eve.

Pete Schwab (host)

Interesting.

Christmas Eve.

For the day after.

Here's what they are.

The top five pizza days according to Vegas Insider.

One, New Year's Day.

Oh, I was off.

That kind of surprised me.

Two, Super Bowl Sunday.

Oh, I thought that would be I know I thought that would be number one I mean New Year's Day.

I guess I could see that

Conrad Krieger (producer)

Super Bowl Sunday with pizza has to be those stores that to be making definitely

Pete Schwab (host)

But I think a lot of people make their own food, too They do something fun number three.

You were close with Valentine's Day February 15th the day after Okay, it's probably frozen pizza, too because people went out and spent a boatload.

Conrad Krieger (producer)

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing

Pete Schwab (host)

right March 15th right before March Madness.

That's a good one

Yeah, the NCAA tournament and started yet, but a bunch of conference championships were going on.

That was in 2025 on March 29th during the Elite Eight.

So all sporting events, basically, except New Year's Day or the day after.

Not July 30th?

Not July 30th.

Didn't even make the top 365.

And I don't even know how that's possible.

So there you go.

Be careful.

And then they also looked at which state's googled pizza the most this year.

The top five, Delaware.

Pennsylvania, Michigan, South Carolina, and Ohio, Montana ranked last.

OK.

Because they're going out and slaughtering a cow and cooking that up.

Yeah.

All right.

So you got a big show tomorrow night, or tomorrow morning with Make

Conrad Krieger (producer)

the Call.

Yeah, Make the Call.

You know, obviously, we were talking Bear's Backers, you know.

But a big thing coming up is the college playoffs.

Yeah.

And I want to ask you one of the questions that we had.

OK.

Are you excited for any matchups?

Pete Schwab (host)

You know.

Honestly kind of fell off this year with the only thing that keeps me into college football or the Badgers really yeah, maybe if like There was a sin.

You know what I take that back.

I'm excited about Indiana Mm-hmm a new team that that I thought that's where I thought Wisconsin would be After they hired Luke fickle so I'm bummed the Badgers didn't do anything this year But yeah, that's a Cinderella story so to speak I like Indiana.

Conrad Krieger (producer)

Yeah, I mean I said this all right

I'm not really excited about the college playoffs, because I know, you know, it's gonna be the same as last year.

All the teams that made it in from those kind of bad conferences,

Pete Schwab (host)

they're gonna

Conrad Krieger (producer)

lose.

It's gonna

Pete Schwab (host)

be the

Conrad Krieger (producer)

big guys against each other again.

The thing I'm excited for is one of the bowl games.

Pete Schwab (host)

What is it?

Conrad Krieger (producer)

If you, if you look on the stream here, the Pop Tarts Bowl, I

Pete Schwab (host)

can't even, there's like two.

They have

Conrad Krieger (producer)

custom helmets, okay,

Pete Schwab (host)

and the

Conrad Krieger (producer)

stripe.

You know the frosting on a strawberry pop tart.

Yeah, and the sprinkles.

Pete Schwab (host)

Yeah,

Conrad Krieger (producer)

that is the stripe down the middle And it's

Pete Schwab (host)

kind of

Conrad Krieger (producer)

boysy state No, these are just example helmets the teams I believe were just released today.

I didn't get pictures of the actual helmets Okay, but I thought that's so cool that they actually have custom jerseys and helmets for the pop tarts game And as Jimmy Cusco said this is the only game that they sacrifice a mascot

Because they put the Pop-Tart in the fake toaster.

Let me ask you this.

Pete Schwab (host)

Is there an actual game you're excited about?

No, I'm just excited to see that.

I mean, how cool is that?

Yeah, it's kind of

Conrad Krieger (producer)

cool.

Pop-Tart's Bowl?

There's a bowl.

Whatever brand can, you know, offer the most money.

Like Duke's

Pete Schwab (host)

Metal.

I

Conrad Krieger (producer)

get it.

Pete Schwab (host)

Yeah, but it's just like, I wish it was still called like the Fiesta Bowl or the Cotton Bowl.

I know they add those words in with the sponsor, but like Quicken Loans Arena.

Oh, that's exciting.

Let's go watch a contest at the Quicken Loans Arena.

Conrad Krieger (producer)

All right, so I'm just saying this.

Watch the Pop Tarts Bowl this year.

You'll be thrilled.

You'll be entertained and you'll love that you watched it.

Pete Schwab (host)

I doubt that.

Go Hoosiers.

That's what I say, though.

Conrad Krieger (producer)

Yes.

Is Ohio State still undefeated?

No, they lost to Indiana.

Pete Schwab (host)

They lost to Indiana.

That's right.

So

Conrad Krieger (producer)

who's the number one seed?

Indiana.

Pete Schwab (host)

Overall.

Yeah.

That is unbelievable.

All right, folks.

News, sports, weather.

It's all coming up next.

And then we've got a young judo champ.

Iliana Hoskins, a fine young man, joins the show tonight.

It's Night Light with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Conrad Krieger (producer)

There was...

Ilian Hoskins

Welcome

Pete Schwabba

back.

I'm Pete Chihuahua.

This is Night Light on a beautiful Friday night in the state of Wisconsin.

We are broadcasting statewide from beautiful downtown Green Bay tonight.

Hope you're having a great day.

It is great to have you here tonight, folks.

Let us know.

Our question of the night is very simple.

Eggnog, yes or no?

I am a serious no.

In fact, I think I put my response down as no with about 17 O's and then a PE.

So I said, nope.

Conrad is a fan.

But let us know what you think at 855-752-4842-855-75 Civic.

You can also text us on the app.

Or if you're watching the radio on the stream at YouTube, X, or Facebook, you can drop us a stream comment.

That would work just swimmingly as well.

Right now, I'm very excited to welcome my next guest.

This guy is maybe one of my youngest guests ever.

Probably.

He's definitely probably top five, Con.

Top 10 maybe?

Yeah, I think so.

He's a middle schooler in Madison at Ray Senate Middle School, and he is an absolute beast when it comes to the sport of judo, a fine sport.

He has racked up trophies and awards since he's been four years old.

Mr. Ilian Hoskins joins me now on Nightlight.

Hi, Ilian, how are you?

Ilian Hoskins

Good and you?

Pete Schwabba

I'm doing very well.

I'm kind of glad you're joining the show over the stream because if I got you mad at me and you were here in person, I fear for myself what you might be able to do to me.

You don't seem the type.

You seem like a very nice kid, Ilian.

It's great to have you here.

Let me ask you first before we start.

How do you feel about Eggnog?

Ilian Hoskins

I don't think I like

Pete Schwabba

it.

You see Conrad, he's on my side.

He's a good kid.

It's great to have you here, Ilian.

Listen, let's talk about your passion.

Judo, you got a lot of publicity here in Wisconsin and other places for competing in the Pan Am Games earlier this month.

Tell us how that went.

Ilian Hoskins

They were really good.

I'm trying to myself replacing there.

Pete Schwabba

What did you find?

Because all the

Ilian Hoskins

hard work, I got dirt.

Pete Schwabba

Nice.

So that's like a bronze medal, right?

Yep.

Oh, good for you.

Yeah.

Yeah.

How did you feel?

Did you like on the plane ride home or are you like just happy?

Yeah.

That's excellent.

Well, congratulations.

Um, you also won the national championship in June of this year.

Now that, I mean,

How do you feel after these victories, Ilya?

And does that just make you keep on it going keep wanting to go on further or Are you excited and can't wait to get to the next competition?

What's that like winning something like on a scale like that?

Ilian Hoskins

It's like when I win it I want to keep trading so I can win the other championships and get better

Pete Schwabba

and

Ilian Hoskins

find new people

Pete Schwabba

Yeah, that makes sense and I read somewhere that you are hoping

to go to the Olympics one day in the sport of judo.

Talk about that a little bit.

Ilian Hoskins

I want to become the first medal in gold at the Olympics in judo.

Pete Schwabba

So no one from the U.S.

has ever won a gold medal in judo at the Olympics, is that right?

Ilian Hoskins

Only woman.

Pete Schwabba

So how old do you have to be, Ilyan, before you can qualify for the Olympics?

Ilian Hoskins

18.

Pete Schwabba

Okay.

And how old are you now?

You're like, 12.

You're 12.

Wow.

That's impressive.

So you can, you got a lot of time to practice.

That's, that's good before you have to do Olympic trials.

That's, that's exciting.

Um, so, okay.

So your rank, in terms of your junior ranking, Ilian held the nation's top junior ranking in 2022 and you made the USA.

Judo 1315 Pan American Championship team in June you placed you placed third you said How do you feel like what is that like when you have to go back to school like middle school is a tough age Right like and you come back to school is this judo champ.

What are your classmates like when you get back?

Are they excited for you or are they a little jealous or how is that?

Ilian Hoskins

Like excited.

Pete Schwabba

Yeah Did they have a little reception for you at the school?

Like a little party so to speak.

They did.

Yeah.

What was that like?

It was cool.

I liked it.

Okay.

So what is it?

Listen, I've never been any kind of great athlete, Ilyan.

So I'm trying to live vicariously through you.

So what is it like to be ranked number one in the world as a junior athlete?

What is that?

I would feel like I'd be so excited.

It'd be hard for me to go to sleep at night.

Ilian Hoskins

I feel extremely proud of myself.

When I started competing in my freshman championship, it was my goal to do that.

Pete Schwabba

Yeah.

Wow.

Great.

So, all right.

So I've read articles about you and I've heard school administrators or teachers talk to you or talk about you and refer to you as a role model.

Do you consider yourself a role model or a leader to other kids?

Ilian Hoskins

I think so, yes.

Pete Schwabba

Yeah, how do you try to do that?

Like obviously you you anyone who practices martial arts, it's a discipline and it's an art Do you lead by example or do you try to give other kids pep talks?

Like are you a good friend that way?

Ilian Hoskins

Yeah Yeah, I like how to help them be more respectful things.

Pete Schwabba

Yeah, is your school are the kids pretty respectful for the most part at your school?

Yeah, that's good Are you a good student?

Ilian Hoskins

I am

Pete Schwabba

yeah That's good.

Let me ask you this has being a good student made you better at judo or has judo Made you a better student in school.

Did the two complement each other?

I

Ilian Hoskins

think being good at judo has helped me in school because it teaches me discipline focus and not giving up when things are hard but

These skills can help me pay attention and study better in school.

Being a good student has also helped me in school in Judo because school teaches me how to listen, follow directions and be more respectful.

Pete Schwabba

Yeah, that's

Ilian Hoskins

great.

And they both let me do my best.

Pete Schwabba

That's excellent.

What's your favorite class in school?

Ilian Hoskins

Like social studies or math.

SPEAKER_??

Okay.

Pete Schwabba

My guest is Ileon Hoskins.

He is just an absolute all-star when it comes to Judo.

He's won awards and tournaments and he's been ranked number one nationally.

And this has all happened in the last eight years.

He's been practicing Judo since he's been four years old, which I find really just fantastic.

Do you think he'll always practice the sport, Ileon?

Ilian Hoskins

Yeah.

Pete Schwabba

Is it the kind of sport you can do like martial arts are different?

Some of them involve more kicking some of them are more holds or throws like judo What what is a martial art or maybe it is judo that you could do as you get older like when you're even maybe 60 or something Can you do judo judo at that

Ilian Hoskins

age?

Yeah, I could be like a coach like a teacher.

Pete Schwabba

Yeah, well, that's great

What is your goal?

Obviously, let's say let's say you go to the Olympics and you win a gold medal what then?

Open up your own judo school, maybe

Ilian Hoskins

Yeah,

Pete Schwabba

yeah That'd be pretty

Ilian Hoskins

cool.

Yeah

Pete Schwabba

What's next for you?

What's your next big competition, Ilian

Ilian Hoskins

and March?

Pete Schwabba

And what is that?

What is that tournament?

Ilian Hoskins

The youth nationals.

Pete Schwabba

Okay.

How do you feel?

You feel good about your chances?

Ilian Hoskins

Yeah.

Pete Schwabba

Yeah.

If you were here in person, I would love it if you could teach Conrad a lesson, the producer, because he gets really mouthy sometimes.

You think you could do that?

Yeah.

So let's talk about this, Ilya.

And your older sister, Yoana, is also

Pretty accomplished in martial arts.

Tell us about her and how that is being in the same house with another really accomplished martial artist.

Ilian Hoskins

It's cool because when I was younger I always used to watch my sister compete and that made me want to compete too.

Pete Schwabba

Now she

She practices karate and kickboxing.

Do the two of you, they're different art forms, did the two of you ever just kind of spar goofing around or how does that work?

Do you make each other better at your martial art?

Ilian Hoskins

Yeah, we do.

Pete Schwabba

Who usually wins?

Spar.

For now anyway, right?

Yeah.

So, all right, so how often, Ilyan, like at your age, you've got middle school.

You've got all these classes, school's hard work, but what you do in Judo, it takes a lot of dedication too.

How often do you train and for how long typically?

Ilian Hoskins

I train three times a week and I train for an hour and 30 minutes.

Pete Schwabba

Okay.

Well, that's not too bad.

And do you, when you around the house to your parents, even though you've won all these great competitions, do they still make you do work around the house?

Ilian Hoskins

Yeah, they make me clean up around the house back in the floor clean my room.

Pete Schwabba

How do you feel about that alien?

Ilian Hoskins

It's sometimes like Like don't want to do it, but I like it when it looks better.

Pete Schwabba

That's great What kind of music do you listen to do you ever listen to music when you train to get yourself pumped up?

Ilian Hoskins

Yeah, I like rapping pop

Pete Schwabba

who are your favorite artists?

Ilian Hoskins

I have a lot.

Like, one of them is like Biggie.

Pete Schwabba

Who is it?

Ilian Hoskins

Biggie.

Pete Schwabba

Biggie.

Do you know who that is, Con?

Ilian Hoskins

Yeah.

Pete Schwabba

Yeah.

Like, Biggie Smalls?

Ilian Hoskins

Yep.

Pete Schwabba

Oh, yeah.

The OG.

Oh, OK.

I thought there was like... I'm not on first name basis with them like Ilian is.

I'm not pals with them anymore, but... Well, that's cool.

So, and what about TV, Ilian?

What kind of TV do you like to watch?

Ilian Hoskins

Or

Pete Schwabba

do you even have time to watch?

Yeah, go ahead.

Sorry.

Ilian Hoskins

I like to watch like sports or like anime.

Pete Schwabba

Yeah, what's your favorite sport outside of judo?

Ilian Hoskins

Soccer.

Pete Schwabba

Oh nice.

Do you play soccer?

Ilian Hoskins

I do.

Pete Schwabba

You have time to play soccer in addition to all the judo.

That's pretty impressive.

That's very cool.

All right.

So what I typically ask most of my guests, Ilya, and I talk about movies and TV here a lot.

So are you watching anything that you could recommend to people like a great show or anime or something like that or a movie you saw?

Or do you have a favorite Christmas movie?

That works too.

And if you don't watch movies, that's okay.

We could go back to Judo.

That's totally fine.

Ilian Hoskins

Uh... Like, I like the Grinch.

Pete Schwabba

Oh, the Grinch.

That's a great one.

SPEAKER_??

Okay?

Yeah.

Pete Schwabba

Well, hey, you're a great kid.

Keep up the great work and I appreciate you.

I know how busy you are.

I appreciate you taking time out to come on the show and talk to us a little bit about, I love martial arts.

I think they're great and I think they're great for people.

So keep being a role model, keep being a great kid and a good student and listening to your folks and get to the Olympics so I can say that I met you and that you're my best friend, okay?

Ilian Hoskins

Okay.

Pete Schwabba

All right.

Thanks so much, Ilya.

And have a great night and happy holidays.

Thank you, buddy.

All right.

Thank you.

That's Ilya and Hoskins took third in the Pan Am Games.

That's unbelievable.

You know, I didn't even qualify for the Pan Am Games.

I didn't even know you tried.

Well, I tried.

I tried in the 13 to 15 division thinking I would.

have a leg up.

Did they take you out of there?

They took me out.

Conrad (Producer)

The security might have roughed you out a little bit.

Pete Schwabba

Exactly.

What a great kid.

That's Ilya and Hoskins.

We are going to do a very short break here, folks.

And then we've got, I'm going to tell you, this is kind of funny.

We're going to talk about an animal that fell into a plate of food that is coming up next and news, sports and weather is also just about 10 minutes away.

Folks, it is great to have you here on this Friday.

It's Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio

Conrad (Producer)

Network.

if i mentioned

Conrad Krieger (host)

Welcome

Peachwabba (host)

back, ladies and gentlemen, to this Friday night edition of Nightlight.

It is great to have you here and I hope...

If you're in the car, I hope you're driving safely.

The roads are good.

Boy, we got snow last night, Con.

That wasn't even forecasted.

Conrad Krieger (host)

Yeah.

Okay.

So I woke up.

Ninth

Peachwabba (host)

time I had to wipe off my car, by the way, so

Conrad Krieger (host)

far.

You're up there now.

Peachwabba (host)

It's horrible.

Conrad Krieger (host)

You know, in a week, I won't have a garage anymore.

So I'll be doing joining you.

Peachwabba (host)

Oh, that's a tough.

You know what's weird?

In my house, the house that we bought several many years ago, the garage is like six feet from the house.

SPEAKER_??

Mm hmm.

Peachwabba (host)

What are you doing?

Just connect the damn garage at that point what on earth like I don't know why anybody living in northern Wisconsin wouldn't have an attached garage Obviously it didn't stop us from buying the house But my god, you're it's I could spit on my garage from my back door And I've done it many times because I'm a bear's fan.

No, but it's uh, I don't know why you just wouldn't connect the garage But

Conrad Krieger (host)

yeah, it's gonna

Peachwabba (host)

be a big thing for you because

Conrad Krieger (host)

it's a different spot also

It's right across the bridge there Right, so I don't really have to drive to work anymore after that.

Peachwabba (host)

That's nice, too Do I want to wipe my car off or walk to work?

Conrad Krieger (host)

And you know, so you're talking about the roads.

It's kind of slippery out, you know with with With the the rain that we had and then it kind of got colder Yeah, I was walking, you know through the usual little walkway that we like through the grass there.

Peachwabba (host)

Yeah

Conrad Krieger (host)

It's like all ice and I didn't realize that

Peachwabba (host)

but you wipe out.

Conrad Krieger (host)

I almost did

That was so close.

Peachwabba (host)

I almost did that last year.

Right by Shriver here

Conrad Krieger (host)

in downtown Green Bay.

Yeah, yeah, right in front of it.

There's a

Peachwabba (host)

little path you can cut across the grass.

And usually by the time I get here, I think everybody leaves that building at like 3 p.m.

Conrad Krieger (host)

Yeah, they're never there

Peachwabba (host)

when I'm walking.

But I think it was last winter, same deal.

I almost did a header and there were people around a conference table and they all looked at me and I could tell they were kind of like trying not to laugh or like maybe thought they might have to call paramedics or something.

Conrad Krieger (host)

You know, so all right, so this is my white boat story here, right?

Yeah.

Last year I was, my friend invited me to like this work function yet at the, at the Northland.

He's like, yeah, you can come and we're just, oh, there's like a work party there.

So I went with them.

And then after we were going out to some of the bars down here and it was slippery out, it was, it just rained and it's, you know, kind of froze over and we get outside and I, I pretend like I'm going to slip, you know, like to my friend, I'm like, oh, oh, and I actually fall.

He's laughing from like literally like a five-minute walk of just laughing so hard.

That

Peachwabba (host)

is funny.

The jokes on you.

Yep.

Conrad Krieger (host)

Nice

Peachwabba (host)

try.

Our question of the night, folks, is eggnog yes or no.

Dave on the stream says no.

Very simple.

No punctuation.

Know nothing, just a flat out no Dale from Waukesha in the 262 says, I'm a 74 year old man.

I haven't had eggnog for many years, but I always enjoyed it.

Pasturized milk, eggs, nutmeg, very safe, always delicious.

Well, it sounds like he could be on the eggnog council or something.

Our pal John Murray in the 608 says, love some eggnog during the Christmas season and Baileys and Kalua for coffee drinks.

Only get these three beverages once a year, all good for celebrating the holidays.

Conrad Krieger (host)

That's

Peachwabba (host)

great.

I know I'm strongly in the no category here, but Is Bailey's Irish cream that much worse than egg?

It's it's the idea of the egg that freaks me out

Conrad Krieger (host)

Honestly, yeah, I mean I can see where you're coming from where but I I Look past it.

I'm just like this tastes good.

So

Peachwabba (host)

yeah,

Conrad Krieger (host)

but I mean Bailey's and Kahlua and coffee drinks is phenomenal.

This is

Peachwabba (host)

so good It is good.

Um, we had I thought I found the story I can't remember where I think it was just like Shepherd Express or whatever but a raccoon

fell through the roof at an eatery

Conrad Krieger (host)

in Lake

Peachwabba (host)

Geneva and bit someone.

And it got me thinking, is there an animal, any animal that falls on your plate of food is not good, but is there an animal that you would not freak out if it fell in your plate of food?

Conrad Krieger (host)

An animal that I wouldn't freak out?

Yeah.

Peachwabba (host)

Dolphins are nice.

Why would that fall from me?

Why would it you know if a raccoon falls through the roof that that's more

Conrad Krieger (host)

establishment because it can walk on land You know yeah, but still don't fall through the roof I'm trying to think that one of those animals that really prides himself on being clean probably I don't know offhand.

I mean dogs mouth Yeah, that's what I want

Peachwabba (host)

my what

Conrad Krieger (host)

I

Peachwabba (host)

want

Conrad Krieger (host)

my dish to

Peachwabba (host)

smell like

That's like, uh, the rich Jenny joke.

Oh, it's dog's mouth is cleaner than humans.

But he licks his... blank.

And he kept going with that.

That was the punchline

Conrad Krieger (host)

already.

Yeah.

But

Peachwabba (host)

he,

Conrad Krieger (host)

how can that, he licks his... You know, maybe, uh, like a kangaroo would be cool though.

It just came down and started boxing you.

Peachwabba (host)

While you're trying to eat your lamb chops?

Yeah, that'd be kind of cool.

Uh, Teresa in the 608 says New Year's Day has bowl games, so sports.

Yeah, that's... I didn't think of that when I was...

reading those responses.

Thank you, Teresa.

Dale from Walk-A-Shot in the 262 says, in answer to your question about your standalone garage, the spit you talked about may cost you 10 grand.

Conrad Krieger (host)

To put a pathway from the garage to the house?

Oh, maybe that's what I thought.

I thought it was

Peachwabba (host)

like

Conrad Krieger (host)

a spitting for something

Peachwabba (host)

in Marinette that I was in.

Conrad Krieger (host)

Unless you build up enough spit to get it removed.

Peachwabba (host)

That's a good point, Dale.

Thank you, sir.

So, uh, let's see.

Bo and Yang leaving Saturday Night Live?

Yeah.

After seven years, abruptly in the middle of the season, I didn't even think he was... He's not, like, one of the major guys,

Conrad Krieger (host)

is he?

I mean, I feel like he was.

Like, he would be in a lot of skits.

But I also, I feel like he probably wants to venture into movies and stuff.

Yeah, I

Peachwabba (host)

guess.

We've got news, sports and weather coming up in just a couple of minutes, folks.

Some of the social media responses to our question of the night.

Eggnog, yes or no.

Conrad Krieger, big yes.

Peachwabba, long nope.

Janet, nope.

Dan Wheeler, if it's made with chicken eggs, yes.

If it's Vermont style and made with goose eggs, no, no thanks.

Nasty aftertaste.

Oh, Danny Wheels is an eggnog connoisseur.

Is that why Vermont's eggnog?

Just drinking the wrong kind of eggnog,

Conrad Krieger (host)

apparently.

I mean, their numbers

Peachwabba (host)

are up.

I guess

Conrad Krieger (host)

so.

In New Hampshire.

Peachwabba (host)

All right, we've got a lot of show coming up, folks.

We're closing off act one here.

News and sports and weather is next.

Bear Packard talk at 635 with Gray Parker Dom.

Conrad some of the guys from make the call and then Dom and I will represent the bear side It's gonna be a lot of fun and we've got a lot coming up.

We're gonna read some of your texts after the news We are coming right back.

It's nightlight with peach wava on the civic media radio network

Narrator/Announcer

Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.

This is Night Light with Pete Chwaba.

Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now, a guy who appreciates a nice hot meal at a fair price.

Pete Chwaba.

Welcome back,

Pete Chwaba (host)

ladies and gentlemen.

This is act two of nightlight currently underway, and it is uh So, I mean honestly Conrad could you do better a Friday before Christmas?

You know short week.

I don't think so bears packers on Saturday a Saturday night eggnog Disgusting eggnog not with goose eggs though definitely

Conrad (co-host)

not with do

Pete Chwaba (host)

say

If you missed the first hour folks, we had a great conversation with a young judo champ from Madison, Wisconsin named Ilya Hoskins.

He joined us What a good kid just in middle school, but gutted it out here on the radio and We will definitely be following his career.

He took third in the Pan Am games earlier this month very cool stuff and such a great sport judo is like

Really fun to watch, too.

And his goal is to be in the Olympics one day.

So that should be fun.

And we hope he makes it.

Our question of the night is, you know what, Con?

Let's just, let's reintroduce it, shall we?

There's the night like question of the night.

Conrad (co-host)

Let's talk about the question.

Okay, question.

Question.

Question.

Pregunta.

Question.

Question.

Okay, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Domanda.

Question.

Pete Chwaba (host)

Question.

Eggnog.

Yes or no?

Very simple.

We have so many responses on social media, too.

I love that people can respond to this question.

Eggnog, yes or no?

Let us know what you think, folks.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.

8-5-5-7-5-Civic Conrad says a big yes.

I say a huge no.

It's the eggs that freak me out.

We talked about this before at the top of the hour, or right before the top of the hour, how it has the same kind of texture or flavor as like a Bailey's Irish cream, but it's the egg thing.

If they took, if it was just nog or cinnamon nog, oh man, sign me up, but it's the egg, egg nog.

And I like eggs.

I eat scrambled eggs three, four times a week.

I thought you were gonna say a day.

Three, four, eggs three, four times a day.

Yeah, it's so crazy, like eggs are now a superfood.

Conrad (co-host)

I mean, I did eat it a lot when I was like, we're starting out my work.

Pete Chwaba (host)

Eggnog?

Or eggs.

Eggs.

You said I ate it a lot.

I ate egg a lot.

Conrad (co-host)

In the beginning of the year, yeah, it helped me lose a little bit of weight, too.

Pete Chwaba (host)

Yeah, that's good.

I mean, honest to God, it's a superfood and Conrad, I'm not kidding, 25 years ago appeared with only it eggs.

Conrad (co-host)

I cholesterol.

Yeah, exactly.

The cholesterol in it.

But, I mean, the new thing now is, you know, you put more egg whites in it instead.

Because you can buy egg whites in a cart, you know?

Yeah, but that's like processed stuff, right?

Like, they want

Pete Chwaba (host)

you to eat farm-raised eggs.

Yeah, I think that's the superfood,

Conrad (co-host)

right?

No, I don't agree with egg whites.

Like, I've tried it, and I think it's gross.

And I just, I like just having my scrambled eggs, sometimes an omelet.

I get it.

I can make an omelet.

There's nothing stopping you from

Pete Chwaba (host)

making an omelet in either one of your apartments.

Yeah, I had this is funny that you have two apartments when I was Toward the end of our time in LA I had But we ran we ended up renting a house, but we had this great apartment and I never wanted to leave I would have stayed there raised two kids in an apartment I really would have done that we had this pool a guard at night for the parking It was in a great neighborhood.

I'm like why and art it was rent control.

I'm like I I wasn't a house guy

But my wife was like, we need more space.

So I rented another apartment in the same building down the hall.

We turned that into like a playroom.

And my friends on the show I was working on called Sportsoup, they were always like, how many apartments do you have this week?

Like they never let me hear the end of it.

And I thought they were a little rude because I thought it was a pretty good idea that my wife had and end up, we just bailed and rented a house for the extra space in the yard.

But we didn't have a pool in Southern California.

Conrad (co-host)

You can always make a pool.

Just in the bathtub,

Pete Chwaba (host)

you know, you could make a pool as easily as I could attach my garage to my house But I admire you for having

Conrad (co-host)

you make one a love nest.

Well, let's just say this The only reason I have two apartments is because they put it on such a special that I was like, well

Pete Chwaba (host)

Yeah,

Conrad (co-host)

I'm gonna get it now

Pete Chwaba (host)

And you would have lost your security deposit, right if you bailed.

Is that

Conrad (co-host)

my

Pete Chwaba (host)

current apartment?

Conrad (co-host)

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well is I didn't want to lose out on this apartment, so I

They're running a special and it was minus seven hundred dollars a front For the month of December you gotta jump.

No, I'm like, yeah, yeah, I'm to

Pete Chwaba (host)

sign me up.

So which apartment are you gonna watch the bear packer game

Conrad (co-host)

at?

Actually none where I'm going to stadium view with some of my friends.

Oh, no,

Pete Chwaba (host)

that'll be fun.

Yeah, that's fun when you make an event of something It's gonna be a fun game coming up at 635 folks Parker Olson and Greg Anderson

Conrad and Dom Lee will join me here and we'll have a fun little Bears Packers discussion to celebrate this outstanding rivalry.

Pardon me.

And I want to say thank you to the listeners for still listening to the show,

Conrad (co-host)

even

Pete Chwaba (host)

though I'm a bear fan sometimes.

You guys, they put up with me and they're the great couch potatoes.

So I really appreciate that.

And that's going to be a fun talk.

That's at 635.

And then Conrad and I might actually

extend the talk a little bit into hour three before

Narrator/Announcer

we have

Pete Chwaba (host)

Terry Barron for Bar Band Friday night at 7.35 tonight.

Like every Friday, we welcome Terry onto the show and we have a segment named after her.

That's how much we love Terry.

Conrad (co-host)

I mean, yeah, I mean, she always brings the best music every single week.

Pete Chwaba (host)

Absolutely.

Conrad (co-host)

Has there been a week where we're like, no, this music is no good?

Well, first of all, I wouldn't say that

Pete Chwaba (host)

even if she did.

Conrad (co-host)

Like if she brought like a Weird

Pete Chwaba (host)

Al song.

What do you, I love Weird Al.

Yeah, that's just a bit.

Let's say she found a weird L impersonator

Conrad (co-host)

trying to write

Pete Chwaba (host)

original stuff.

I probably I probably still wouldn't say anything because I like Terry so much, but luckily she's never put us in that situation because she's just so much fun.

I found this, I sent this to you earlier on social media.

I think it was on Instagram.

What if we went on a, in the picture is a guy walking through Minards where they have all the Christmas trees.

He says,

Narrator/Announcer

what

Pete Chwaba (host)

if we went on a Christmas date, walking through the Minards, enchanted forest, then went to Quick Trip and got dinner at the hotspot.

Conrad (co-host)

And what, I sent you, this is a new skit.

Yeah,

Pete Chwaba (host)

yeah, we got to do something

Conrad (co-host)

with that

Pete Chwaba (host)

perfect.

It's what if it's like well, what if there's no second date?

Let's be honest.

That's

Conrad (co-host)

not well materialized.

What if it's the you know, just say it's me.

Okay.

Yeah, and this is what the girl sends me And she oh, that's what she wants to do then there will be then we'll be you would pose You

Pete Chwaba (host)

would

Conrad (co-host)

you would

Pete Chwaba (host)

exactly in front of the chicken sandwiches You know what this is a very

I mean, this is like a really nitpicky thing about quick trip because I like quick trip for what it is.

Narrator/Announcer

It's

Pete Chwaba (host)

a

Conrad (co-host)

gas station

Pete Chwaba (host)

and their food.

Let's relax, folks.

It's fine for gas station food.

It's maybe the best gas station, but it's still gas station food.

But I love their those little cheesy potato dealios they

Conrad (co-host)

have.

Pete Chwaba (host)

They're never have them, though.

It's always cheese curds.

And I would rather have the cheesy potato puffs or whatever they call it.

Conrad (co-host)

You never have them, though.

You know, I'll say this.

I think I've said it before is that quick trip does not have good cheese curds.

But those things that you're talking about, those are dynamite.

Pete Chwaba (host)

They're really

Conrad (co-host)

good.

Pete Chwaba (host)

And Pizza Hut used to have them, but they don't have them anymore.

So Quick Trips, they're kind of the go-to place.

Conrad (co-host)

They rarely have them.

So I went to Tennessee a couple of months ago for my friend's wedding.

Yeah.

And when we were in Tennessee, we stopped at a Bucky's.

Oh, they're coming to Wisconsin, right?

Yes.

Yes, they are.

Yes.

And let me tell you, their food knocks out.

Quick trip instant.

Yeah, it is so good and the process they have people working in there is crazy.

What do you mean?

So they they have Like short rib like sandwiches like kind of okay, like slices Why can't I think of the word burnt ends kind of deal?

Yo, you know like beef tips.

Yeah, like kind of like burn ends and they said people cutting there's like

Pete Chwaba (host)

Oh

Conrad (co-host)

really six different stations of people just cutting that and you get like you can you can see it They're just going super fast because they're

I mean, when I got in there, it was like, I was like, can we even walk in?

It's so packed.

And it's like a Walmart-sized Bucky's.

And it was that packed.

Pete Chwaba (host)

How did we get to that place where it's like, well, it's a gas station.

You got to have fine dining.

It's like, it's just as crazy.

Well, this is a knitting store.

We need gas, so we need to offer people gas.

Like, that combination, I don't know how that happened, but.

It started with snacks and now it's meals.

Conrad (co-host)

Let me tell you this buckies.

They're making a lot of

Pete Chwaba (host)

money No, that could be a threat to quick trip I heard like if they come to Wisconsin

Conrad (co-host)

It would be because I do believe that buckies is better food and for you to say that that's something I mean, I I like my quick trips chicken sandwiches, but that's like a yingling

Pete Chwaba (host)

Spotted cow rival

Conrad (co-host)

now.

You just reminded me of yingling and I want one

Pete Chwaba (host)

With your buckies I had I had to plug my computer in and I don't you know my computer wasn't charging

I've had some issues lately.

So I ordered a new charger and I went cheap.

Narrator/Announcer

I think

Pete Chwaba (host)

it was like 16 bucks.

This thing, I leave it plugged in for 10 minutes.

First of all, I plugged it in and as I'm moving the cord to my computer, I got a shock.

And the thing is on fire after like 10 minutes.

Like this is going to last a month and maybe cause a house fire.

Conrad (co-host)

I'm going to say that's the worst thing you can do is go cheap with chargers.

I know.

Especially because like I went expensive with my chargers and they're 20 feet cables, too Yeah, and let me just say they never get hot Because I spent many saw bucks on it

Pete Chwaba (host)

You're trying to do saw buck an hour now not just per show

Conrad (co-host)

I'll just say this that's the one thing I won't go cheap on yeah, because it like it can if you get a cheap one it can do stuff to your battery

Pete Chwaba (host)

Oh, I believe that.

The problem is I remember I was having issues with my computer.

The M wasn't working.

I had to like pound

Conrad (co-host)

on

Pete Chwaba (host)

the M to get

Conrad (co-host)

the

Pete Chwaba (host)

M to show up So I didn't I don't know how long the computer is gonna last.

I'm sure it'll go in the middle of a show and Then we'll have to scramble and I'll have to go over on that side where it's warm

But anyway, let's read some text because our question of the night folks is eggnog.

Yes or no.

We got so many responses on social media.

We have to get to where do we leave off?

Tony Boswell, my old pal Tony, a very fine comedian and writer says, yes, I have a theory that those who liked eggnog are the same ones who like candy corn.

I don't like candy corn.

Okay.

Well, Tony, it's not like he's, you know,

Got a government grant here doing research.

I said Tony Boswell and circus peanuts.

Conrad (co-host)

Honestly though, circus peanuts are pretty tasty.

Pete Chwaba (host)

There's a time and a place for circus peanuts.

I'm not going to lie to you.

I think probably after a night of drinking, I've just mowed like two bags of those things and probably put

Conrad (co-host)

myself into a sugar

Pete Chwaba (host)

cone.

Put that out there.

Wonderfully, Wisconsin, our pal, Paul Vandenplatz, says, Peach Wabba, there are enough of us weirdos that like those candies that they still make them.

I also enjoy the peanut butter kisses candies, the ones that come in orange or black wrapper.

Oh, wow.

Ah, yeah.

Those

Conrad (co-host)

are actually

Pete Chwaba (host)

pretty good.

They're okay, but they're, I remember, I always remember being bummed when you'd get that at a house when you were trick-or-treating, because they're fine.

Yeah.

Like if there's no other candy around.

You relish that.

But you're not, you're not eating those before the Snickers or the Kit Kats.

Conrad (co-host)

Oh, definitely not.

Pete Chwaba (host)

Yeah.

But that's a very astute observation by Paul, who Paul should do a candy poll next after he does the handstands, I think.

Yeah.

Tony Boswell, Peach Wabba, love him.

And he's talking about the pain, or the circus peanuts.

There you go.

Comedian Vince Moranto says, yes, the most festive of beverages.

I guess you could, that's a pretty good case.

Eggnog, I would.

I would agree with that Vince.

Uh, Mike Dessertel says absolutely.

Fruitcake too.

Oh Mike, I don't get that.

And I said together and Mike said yes.

And he also likes RC Cola and moon pies.

Ooh, moon

Conrad (co-host)

pies I haven't had in a while, but I remember those.

Those are

Pete Chwaba (host)

good.

They are good, but I remember like, I kind of grew out of that, like double sugar.

Yeah,

Conrad (co-host)

I mean, soda

Pete Chwaba (host)

and moon pies.

Man, that'll,

Conrad (co-host)

I mean those hostess things are.

Pete Chwaba (host)

I'll mess you up.

Tim Baker on social media says in moderation.

Okay.

He doesn't want to overdo it on the eggnag.

My friend Tiff says spiked.

Yeah?

Is it always spiked?

Conrad (co-host)

No, the stuff you buy in

Pete Chwaba (host)

the grocery store is

Conrad (co-host)

his virgin.

You make it, you make it spiked.

Pete Chwaba (host)

Okay.

What do you add?

Rum?

Conrad (co-host)

Uh, I mean, I would usually put brandy in it.

I think Brandy tastes pretty good with that.

How

Pete Chwaba (host)

about rubbing alcohol?

Let's kill the eggs.

Maybe drink some.

Conrad (co-host)

All right, we're

Pete Chwaba (host)

going to continue with your text, and I'm going to tell you what popular show is coming back in the new year.

That's all coming up after this very short break.

It's Peach Wabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Conrad (co-host)

Alan

Pete Schwabba (host)

Rickman is the name I could not think of earlier.

He's the bad guy in Die Hard.

Welcome back.

It's Pete Schwabba in Night Light.

And I thought his character's name was Hans Gruber.

Hans Gruber, of course.

One of the most notorious bad guys in showbiz history, played by Alan Rickman.

You know, Conrad Scrubs.

Were you a Scrubs fan?

Conrad (co-host)

No, never.

Pete Schwabba (host)

I gotta say, that show was coming back after 15 years.

It's been off the air 15 years?

15 years, I was surprised at that too.

And my, I guess he's my friend, an accomplice, whatever, Matt Tarsus, who, when Greg, my writing partner Greg and I were fired from the Guy Thing project, we sold the movie, did our two rewrites, and like they so often do, they replaced us.

Still wasn't great, but they brought in Matt Tarsus and Bill Rubel.

and Bill was, I think he was on Will and Grace, he went on to do Modern Family, very successful TV writers and they did the rewrite of a guy thing.

Anyway, I'm trying to get mad on the show because Scrubs, it was really funny, it was highly rated.

I'm happy it's back on the air because I hope that Donald Fesson and Zach Braff are too busy to do those stupid T-Mobile commercials.

Yeah, how many are there?

Stop!

There's so many.

It's terrible and they're not funny, it's like,

They think they're so cute with their singing and we're just buddies and neighbors and we're singing about cell phones.

It's just weird.

Conrad (co-host)

Yeah, it comes to a point where you run out of T-Mobile stories, you know.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Yeah.

Conrad (co-host)

Two would have been enough.

Pete Schwabba (host)

You just don't need to do it.

Nothing.

Nothing is enough.

It's perfect.

So Scrubs might be back or Scrubs is coming back.

February of 2026.

It will re-air.

So if you're a Scrubs fan, you're in luck and it is a good

It's a good show.

I think it won Emmys.

Funny.

A lot of jokes.

I

Conrad (co-host)

got something new.

I've been watching.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Really?

Conrad (co-host)

What is it?

Well, the first season came out last year during this time, and it was Percy Jackson and the Olympians.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Oh, yeah.

And

Conrad (co-host)

it's the second adaptation of it, because the first one was movies.

They made the first two, well, I guess, originally, they're books, OK?

OK.

And I read them all in middle school.

And it was the only, like, full novel series I read all the way through.

Okay.

Because it was really that good.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Wow.

Conrad (co-host)

So they made it into movies not even really close to how the books made it.

Right.

This one they made, so the first season, I was like, this is fantastic.

Because, let's just say, in the movies, they made him look like he's like 26.

Yeah,

Pete Schwabba (host)

those are huge.

Conrad (co-host)

But in the book, he's like 15.

So they made it, all right, anyways.

They released the second season last Wednesday and I got to say it's it's so good.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Really?

And the first season was good.

Conrad (co-host)

Oh, it was it was.

I'd say that was my favorite TV show of the year last year was that.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Oh, that's fantastic.

Conrad (co-host)

So it's the Percy Jackson, the second season, the Sea of Monsters and I'm enjoying it.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Another.

Yeah, there you go.

Another recommendation.

Check it out over the holidays, folks.

We're all looking for stuff to watch.

Let's get back to some of our texts.

Our question of the night is eggnog.

Yes or no, I would you think we're like split down the middle on this?

Conrad (co-host)

I think no is a way in the S's right

Pete Schwabba (host)

now.

Really?

Jim from Appleton says eggnog is wonderful seasoned to properly it reminds me of a golden Cadillac or Brandy Alexander.

Yummy.

Nice.

Okay.

Conrad (co-host)

Yummy indeed.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Yummy indeed.

My to me hates the word yummy.

If you ever want to know Mike has been on the show several times very one of my truly best friends if if you are a woman and you start to dance in Mike's presence He gets really uncomfortable.

He doesn't like it when someone just starts like doing this, you know if there's music on and He does not like the word yummy.

Conrad (co-host)

I'm gonna say I hate the word yummy too, but I say it cuz it's funny Yeah, once the last time you actually like ate something like

Yummy.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Never.

Conrad (co-host)

I don't ever say it,

Pete Schwabba (host)

and I almost didn't read Jim's.

He added yummy, and I almost didn't read that part out of respect for Jim.

But Jim wanted me to read it, so I read it.

Ed from Madison says, spiked eggnog?

Hells yes.

Unspiked eggnog?

Hells no.

Jim, why don't you just have a drink?

He likes the eggs.

Conrad (co-host)

Well, like, you know, the alcohol kills off the, whatever.

I

Pete Schwabba (host)

guess.

AJ from the 608 says, no, the eggs scare me too, but I've had good eggnog and not against it.

Very diplomatic.

Thank you, AJ.

Gene from Green Bay says, eggnog, definitely, it's delicious.

Double exclamation points.

Agree there.

Gene is leaving, no doubt.

And then let's finish up our social media texts here.

Eric on social media, Facebook says, no, if I want rum flavored phlegm.

I'll hook up a loogie into a glass of Captain Morgan that I might actually vomit reading that.

That was very well done, Eric.

Derek Fister says yes, yes, and yes.

So you're saying yes.

Amanda Nimmer says, I think that's a million percent yes.

Very, this is evening up Conrad.

We've got, uh, Sean said, oh, we already read these.

Okay.

So I would say we're probably even,

Conrad (co-host)

we actually got two more social ones that I don't know if we

Pete Schwabba (host)

better in there.

Conrad (co-host)

Go for it.

Did, uh, so wonderfully, Wisconsin, Paul, Vanna plus says, I would drink it all year if I could.

No, he, oh, so

Pete Schwabba (host)

he responded twice.

Yes.

Big time.

Yeah, he drank it all year.

Yeah, that sounds like a wonderfully Wisconsin post.

We should, uh, you know what I mean?

Like he should do something with that.

Maybe already has.

Conrad (co-host)

Um,

Mike Mercury, I don't know if you read Donor.

Pete Schwabba (host)

I don't think so.

No.

Conrad (co-host)

He said hard no.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Hard no?

Okay.

And some people like hard eggnog.

See what I did there.

We got a steady Eddie Tex.

I don't think we'll we can get this in steady Eddie's in the 608 says this time of year I like an occasional cup of nog with a little nutmeg sprinkled on top sweet creamy dreamy tastes like Christmas and New Year's Eve brings back good childhood memories Sometimes if I'm feeling warm and free it'll add a little booze.

I'll add a little booze to my eggnog

Mmm, that's better than yummy.

Rum and brandy, but after January 1st, Conrad and Pete, no more nod for me, please.

It's back to black coffee and reality.

That text started so encouragingly, and it just kind of ended on a sad note.

First Eddie, Eddie.

Thank you, buddy.

Great to hear from you, Steady Yeti.

OK, after the break, the news, sports, and weather, we're going to have some sports talk.

Folks, we're talking bears and packers with the guys from Make the Call, of which Conrad is a part of that team that airs Saturday mornings here on Civic Media.

Great sports show.

And Dom Lee will join as my bear fan back up.

We're going to have a great discussion.

It's coming up next on Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.

It is Friday night in the beautiful state of Wisconsin Christmas right around the corner.

We are broadcasting live statewide from beautiful downtown Green Bay.

home of the Green Bay Packers, as all of you know, and they have a very big game this Saturday night at Soldier Field for their 212th meeting, I believe, with the Bears.

It's the oldest rivalry in the NFL, and I believe professional sports.

But one of these guys can maybe clarify that when I introduce my next guest.

It's my pleasure to welcome some serious sports fans to the show.

He's the producer of the John and Gordy show, and a Bear fan, hopefully here to have my back, Mr. Dom Lee.

Tom, how are

Dom Lee

you?

Pete Schwabba (host)

Good.

How are you, Pete?

Dom Lee

I'm great.

I'm happy to be here.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Awesome.

And three of the hosts of Make the Call, which you can catch here on Civic Media on Saturday mornings.

And yes, they are Packer fans as well and outstanding hosts, Mr. Gray Gunderson, Parker Olson, and Conrad Krieger.

Welcome all.

Gray Gunderson

How's it going, man?

Thanks for having us.

Wow,

Pete Schwabba (host)

you can't fake enthusiasm like that.

Thanks, guys.

Gray Gunderson

It's the yield.

It's the millennial thing.

We all wait to make sure this thing is recording.

Is this thing on?

Okay, very good.

Pete Schwabba (host)

I thought I was keeping

Gray Gunderson

all you guys... It's the mid-wifes, no you go

Pete Schwabba (host)

first.

Yeah, I thought I was keeping all you guys from an old-fashioned or something.

All right, very cool.

So let's dig in here.

Before we start this conversation about the game on Saturday, it's such a great rivalry.

And I'm sure all of us have great memories of our team and cheering for them when we were younger.

I would love for all of you guys to share a memory of what it was like watching the Packers and or Bears growing up.

Let's start with Parker.

Parker Olson

Oh man, it was always fun because growing up, no offense to the Bears that you were a little better when I was a kid.

And I think that it was just more fun.

I mean, NFC championship game is the first thing I think about.

Randall Cobb, he's open.

Oh, wow.

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Throw it

Parker Olson

to him.

Yeah.

It's just, it's such a fun series.

And it's always the whole week.

I'm excited about it.

There are very few times in the NFL schedule that I spent an entire week going, Oh, I can't wait for this game.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Absolutely.

That's great.

What about, what about you,

Gray Gunderson

Gray?

So immediately going back to I'm 16 years old and people will be able to do the math here not that I care much but 16 years old know absolutely nothing about football and I hear that the Packers make the playoffs Long story short.

That's the year that they won the Super Bowl, which is the year that I decided to care Still have no idea what I'm talking about, but I'm just better at that and

That much hasn't changed but the Packers have have fluctuated quite a bit since then at least

Pete Schwabba (host)

That's great Dom.

What about you?

Give me a bear fan story growing up watching them when you discovered you were bear fans something along those lines So, you know,

Dom Lee

I grew up in the Chicago land area So I was the bear fan all my life and you know, it's tough because you know Parker and Gray they had they have all these you know awesome stories of the Packers beating the Bears, but you know

for us Bears fans, we don't have that because we always lose to the Packers.

We just do.

But I would say, you know, I really like Jay Cutler back when he was quarterback and all those rivalries that they had.

So I don't only have a specific game, but I did, I went to a game one time where the Bears got blown out.

But I would say it was very, very fun.

I don't recall the time or when that happened, but I enjoyed it.

I enjoyed watching those games.

Conrad Krieger

Well said, Khan.

You know, I got, I got two moments from growing up that are my absolute favorite.

One's a little bit more recent, but the one is BJ Raji taking it to the house

Pete Schwabba (host)

and

Conrad Krieger

doing, and doing the dougie.

And then the next one is just Aaron Rodgers running in for a touchdown and saying, I still own you.

Pete Schwabba (host)

He

Conrad Krieger

still does.

He still has property in Chicago.

Pete Schwabba (host)

If any of you would like Conrad's job, it's just became open.

No.

We have a lot of fun talking about this stuff.

I would say, you know, like Dom, I grew up in the city a couple miles west of Wrigley Field, and I remember every Sunday going to Dunkin Donuts after Mass, going home to watch Walter Payton, and

This has been eye-opening, though, because Dom just said he doesn't even remember a good Bears team.

And that is sad, because I at least have a memory of Walter Payton or the 85 Bears, or even the 06 team was at least fun to watch.

So, and I remember when we moved to Wisconsin, Northeast Wisconsin, my dad took us to his law partner, took us to a Bears Packers game.

I still remember it was December 9th and it was below zero.

And I, even though I was cheering for the Bears, I was struck at how fun the atmosphere was, just like Soldier Field.

It was just, they were great sports fans.

The rivalry was alive and well and it's definitely skewed Packers the last, well, 30.

25, 30 years, but it looks like things are trending upward, at least for a competitive game, guys, right?

SPEAKER_??

Overly competitive.

Conrad Krieger

I'm gonna say it's gonna be a battle.

I think both teams are gonna come out and show out.

No matter how many people are in the IR, in the injured list, everyone's gonna come play.

It's a classic rivalry and everyone's just gonna show out.

Dom Lee

Very well

Conrad Krieger

said.

Dom Lee

And that's the thing, two weeks ago when they played, it was the same thing.

It was down to the wire.

Unfortunately, Caleb threw a bad interception at the end, but it was still a really, really close game.

And you're right, Pete.

That was the first competitive feeling I had as a Bears fan.

Like, oh my gosh, are we going to do this?

And it turns out we didn't.

Pete Schwabba (host)

And you're right.

It's like, for so many years, it's like, I mean, they didn't win the game, but it's like, as Bear fans, we were like, oh, we were right there.

And that has not been the case.

So, yeah, is it the best rivalry in sports, Parker?

Parker Olson

I think it very well could be.

And with the Bears getting to be really good now, it's definitely getting better.

I wanted to ask you guys really quick, what was it like last year when the Bears got the win against the Packers?

Because I feel like we haven't mentioned that alone.

That was the first one in a while.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Great point.

Dom Lee

Go ahead, Dom.

You can go first.

Yeah, this is a good story, too.

Cause I was actually at Lambo.

I was there and I

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was

Dom Lee

right behind you when, when, uh, uh, Kyro Santos hit that field goal to win it.

And I was, I was with my roommate.

We were cheering and all of all the Packers fans around us were, were booing us.

It was an awesome feeling.

It was great.

And I haven't had that feeling quite a while, but it was, what are the odds that I was actually there when they finally.

One in Lambo

Pete Schwabba (host)

it was crazy.

Here's the and here's what the rivalry means like I drove to Milwaukee to watch the game with my son in his apartment and We were jumping up and down.

I mean we weren't expecting them to win I don't know I still don't know how they they did they they were depleted is not depleted But they didn't have the guys on the team they have this year.

I don't know how they took that game in Lambo I know love got hurt, but I watched the highlights over and over

Because that was that was my Super Bowl for the last 30 years was that one stupid victory.

That's how dominant the Packers have been.

So I'm totally with Dom there, you know Conrad, who's the who's the greatest Packer or who's your favorite Packer of all time?

Conrad Krieger

My favorite Packer of all time is Aaron Rodgers.

Okay.

There's just so many different memories with watching him your whole life.

Yeah, almost.

He's been the guy.

Yeah.

And I'd say a close second is Clay Matthews.

Okay.

Nice.

Gray Gunderson

What about you, Gray?

I'll go back actually from before my time Reggie White in diving in extensively He's the one who jumps out off of the tape as it doesn't matter what era you put that guy You could put him in right now and he'd be just as dominant I don't think because he's I mean you're if you can throw somebody who weighs 375 pounds no matter what they do There's a certain timeless quality to that and I Don't I don't care if you're Jordan Milata.

You just cool.

You're another 375 pounder out of the way, please

Dom Lee

Dom, who's your favorite bear?

Oh, my favorite bear.

I would probably have to say Devin Hester.

I would say Devin

Gray Gunderson

Hester.

Oh,

Dom Lee

thanks.

I guess that was a really cool moment when I was really, really young, but when he took it to the house in the Super Bowl against the Colts, that was one of the cooler moments.

And yeah, I'd probably say Devin Hester.

Pete Schwabba (host)

I had that same experience.

I was still living in Los Angeles, and there was a comedian called John Caponera who had a big party for a lot of Chicago comics.

And when he ran that...

that kickoff back to open the game.

All these older sausage eating Chicago Bear fans were stomping in his, his whole house was shaking and they were singing Bear Down Chicago Bear.

Then we had our heart broken again.

So there you go.

What about you, Parker, favorite packer?

Parker Olson

I hate to go with the basic answer and to copy Conrad too with Aaron Rogers, but I honestly can't think of anybody that's brought me more joy.

on the Green Bay Packers as much as he had at the end.

He was responsible for a lot of good days.

Pete Schwabba (host)

You know, it's funny because I would say, like if I were a Packer fan, I would probably say Farve, just because he wasn't as accurate as Rogers.

I don't think he was as good a quarterback as Rogers, but he was really fun to watch and brought that kind of attitude.

As a Bear fan, I'll have to say Walter Payton, I suppose, is my all-time favorite.

Not Santos?

Just

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for

Pete Schwabba (host)

that one kick

Conrad Krieger

last

Pete Schwabba (host)

year, yeah.

How far do you guys think, let's start with Parker this time.

How far will the Bears go this year in the playoffs if they make it?

And how far will the Packers go given the Micah Parsons loss?

Parker Olson

Yeah, I think we're gonna learn a lot on this game tomorrow.

I think the Packers, I talked about this, I'm gonna talk about this, I'll make the call tomorrow.

It seems like the Packers defense have found a new level because of Micah Parsons, not necessarily because of his stats or anything, but I think his presence.

And I think that has allowed that defensive unit to just play faster and more confident.

And I think that has kind of kept them in some, made a huge impact, kept them in some games.

Defense wins championships is what they say.

We're going to learn a lot about this packer defense tomorrow.

I think that they very well could make it to the NFC championship game still.

I'm also very interested in the health of guys like Christian Watson, Zach Tom.

Those are guys that they're going to need.

So they certainly could get to the NFC championship game.

I don't think further than that, the Bears.

Man, I don't know if Caleb Williams is quite there yet.

I think they go out right before the NFC championship game I'm not sure that they quite got that much of a run in them.

Gray Gunderson

Okay, great I'm gonna both cheat and pretend I'm clever here.

I'm gonna say whoever wins tomorrow.

Yeah kidneys.

I know it's the kidneys Whoever wins tomorrow is going to lose in the divisional round and whoever loses tomorrow

is going to lose in the wild card round.

I don't think either of these teams is healthy enough to sustain through the post season, through the teams that they're going to face.

The other teams available in the NFC are just too heavy to lift right now.

So yeah, I think it's going to be another divisional loss from at the floor and another hands in the air kind of thing, but for legitimate reasons this year.

Dom Lee

What about you, Dom?

I'm going to say Bears NFC all the way up to the NFC championship.

That's that's what I'm thinking.

That's that's where I'm going.

It might be a little biased.

And like Parker was saying, it all depends on what happens in this Bears Packers game because I know the Bears have a tough Lions team after this week as well.

So I think it all depends.

It all depends on these next two weeks.

But I have both teams going very far in the playoffs either way.

What do you say, Con?

Conrad Krieger

I mean, I'm going to be honest, both the Bears and the Packers aren't beating the Rams or the Seahawks.

That's just how it's going to be.

So I think they're going to go out, whatever team has to face the Rams or the Seahawks, they're going to lose.

Pete Schwabba (host)

I feel like the Packers, one of you guys, I think it was Gray said, yeah, I feel like the Packers have maybe a playoff win in them, but maybe that's it.

And the Bears, I have no, I thought all year they were pretenders, they have managed to win.

I don't even know.

I can't predict that, but we're gonna do a very short break and we'll come back with some predictions.

And maybe I'll ask these guys who their favorite Bear or Packer coach was over the years.

Such a great rivalry.

We're talking Bears Packers.

It's Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.

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Pete Schwabba (host)

Welcome back.

This is Nightlight with Beach Wabba.

We are having some serious bear packer discussion here.

It's one of the greatest rivalries in sports, if not the greatest, certainly the oldest in the NFL.

and probably greatest in the NFL, although you might get some pushback from people who live on the coast about that, but they are wrong.

It is the Bears and the Packers all the way.

Greg Gunderson, Parker Olson, Conrad Krieger are here from Make the Call, which you can catch Saturday mornings here at Civic Media.

And Dom Lee, the producer of the John and Gordy show at WMDX, and here at Civic Media also joins us.

He is my bear fan compadre.

The other three of these guys are all Packer fans, and we're talking about the big game Saturday night, the 212th meeting between these two great teams.

So, do you guys have a favorite coach?

Would you go with, and you guys could just jump in on this one, favorite Packer or Bear coach?

I'm gonna say Ben Johnson.

I'll just get that out there right away.

I liked Ditka, but he's a meathead and whatever.

He was great at that time, but I'm gonna say Ben Johnson.

Then I'll put it out there to you

Greg Gunderson

guys.

I mean, I really like Dicca in kicking and screaming.

Pete Schwabba (host)

He's got

Greg Gunderson

the

Pete Schwabba (host)

acting chops.

No question.

Greg Gunderson

I would say Mike McCarthy because he brought a Super Bowl during my time.

So that was pretty cool.

Conrad Krieger

Lombardi for the Packers, certainly.

I mean, just the legendary quality, the foundation that it built for such a franchise.

But I'll tell you what, I am super there for Ben Johnson.

I was talking to the...

the other three guys earlier, like that guy, uh, the good, better, best thing that he was doing in the locker room, like after win number two or three, I was like, that's some cheeseball nonsense right there.

But then after like six or seven wins, when the team was obviously locking into it, I was getting goosebumps.

I was like, Oh no, because that's, that's scary.

That's how you, that's how you do it again next year.

And I thought, Oh man, little brother's growing up.

We're in trouble again.

Like,

Bad for my heart, man.

I drink a lot of caffeine.

Pete Schwabba (host)

That's great.

Dom Lee

Parker, I think, or Dom, sorry, go ahead, Dom.

I think I'm going to say Lovey Smith for the Bears.

Like you guys said, Ben Johnson's a really good, you know, obviously he's number one in my eyes right now, but Lovey Smith was always, he was a quiet killer and that's kind of, that's kind of what I liked about him.

He had great defenses with him and he knew, he knew,

the calls to play.

So he

Pete Schwabba (host)

actually beat the Packers a few times.

Go figure.

So, uh, Parker, what about you?

Parker Olson

I would go with Lombardi for sure.

Just because there's so much history there.

I absolutely am huge history guy.

Um, but I kind of want to go off the beaten path a little bit.

I'm not, I'm going to say a non head coach, Tom Clements for the Packers

Dom Lee

quarterback

Parker Olson

coach.

Yeah.

The guy that made Brett Farfley was the guy that made Aaron Rodgers who he was he helped out with love a little bit too You cannot talk about hacker history without talking about that guy Yeah,

Pete Schwabba (host)

that's a great choice and now you guys

Pickle and Barty made me, my great grandfather went to high school with George Hallis in the Bridgeport neighborhood in Chicago on the south side.

And my cousins ended up with his, my great grandfather's seats, which are like one of the oldest licenses.

And they're nice enough to throw it to us once in a while, but I can't believe I didn't say George Hallis.

Predictions guys for the game tomorrow night.

Let's start with Dom.

Dom Lee

Oh man.

Oh gosh, I think I'm gonna go.

I got to go Bears.

I got to I got to even even the playing field for for this year.

I think I'm gonna go Bears 28 29, you know, it's gonna be a higher scoring game.

I think they're both gonna be into it.

I got I got the Bears winning by one.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Okay,

Dom Lee

Parker.

Parker Olson

I really hate to say that I think the Bears are gonna win this game, but I think you're gonna win this game.

I don't think that the Packers are quite gonna be able to

live up to what they've been doing.

And frankly, after was it two weeks ago, the Bears proved themselves.

You were saying earlier, Pete, you kind of thought they were pretenders, but they keep winning.

I thought they were pretenders, too.

But now I think they're legit.

I think the Bears are going to get this one.

Conrad Krieger

Great.

For only the worst of reasons, the more I think about it, I want to see what another tie would do to the Packers playoff scenarios.

I'm going to play with a playoff machine real quick when we're wrapping up here today.

But realistically, I fear this game.

A close win is the best case scenario because if it's a blowout, it's a Bears winning kind of blowout.

I want a close game.

I don't think it's going to happen, though.

I have the Bears winning a tight one, maybe seven points.

Kind of like a flip of two weeks ago.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Dude, another tie.

You were a masochist.

That's insanity.

What do you say?

Greg Gunderson

Guys, where's the optimism?

I'm sorry.

I'm going to say Packers by three.

All right.

I'm going to say McManus is going to come out there and kick the game when you feel goal, just like Santos did last year.

We're going to do it to them this time.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Boy, that's a great, that's a bold prediction because I, you know, intellectually, I want to say the Bears because I think the Parsons injury is worse than the, it affects the Packers more than the Packers.

The Bears are pretty deep at wide receiver.

They have defensive injuries too, but I think LeFleur is a really good coach who is underrated and he's the great, he's a great coach for Jordan Love in addition to any other coaches they have there, but

I'm not going to jinx myself by picking the bears because I know if I do, they will lose.

So I'm going to say Packers by 38 points and hope I'm way off.

You have time to switch it

Greg Gunderson

here.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Say you want

Greg Gunderson

the bears to win.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Well, I obviously want the bears to win but I've post-traumatic stress from the last 25 years.

Parker Olson, Greg Anderson, Conrad Krieger, have a great show tomorrow.

Catch, make the call on Saturday mornings here at Civic Media.

And Dom Lee, best of luck to us brother for the game on Saturday night.

Guys, this has been fun.

Thank you so much and keep up the great work here.

And thanks for joining the show.

I really appreciate it.

Thank you.

Bear down.

Make sure that's the last thing they hear Conrad when they cut that.

Thanks guys.

Oh, that was fun.

So, how weird would it be if the bears lost by 38 points?

That would be hilarious.

What do you think about the dome?

Like that's another issue right now in Chicago.

Maybe we can talk about that.

Well, they want

Greg Gunderson

to build in Gary, Indiana, right?

Pete Schwabba (host)

Well, that's, they're really ticked off at Illinois.

It's not just leverage.

There's bad blood there.

I'm not kidding.

And they should have threatened with Indiana three years ago, before they bought $100 million property.

All right, we're coming right back.

It's Nightlight with Pete Schwabba.

Act three is next.

Parker Olson

It's not a double me, I love you and I need you so much

Announcer

Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.

This is Night Light with Peach Waba.

Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now, a guy who once tore his ACL playing chess, Peach Waba.

Welcome back.

Peach Waba

It is time for hour number three of nightlight here on this beautiful Friday night in gorgeous the state of Christmas, Wisconsin What was that pole?

The other day Conrad that said Wisconsin all the Christmas cities were like the warm-weather cities Atlanta, Orlando Vegas come

Conrad

on.

I mean obviously you got the major ones and You just can't I don't know

Peach Waba

you

Conrad

got to put you know

Peach Waba

Marinette up there, right?

Marinette is Christmas City

Christmas City, USA, Wisconsin is the state to be in for Christmas.

We've got pine trees.

We've got snow.

It's gorgeous.

It is a little cold out tonight.

Yeah, just bundle up and then

Conrad

you're fine.

Peach Waba

Yeah, for tonight's window fun photo, it was too cold to go outside.

So I decided to take a hot shower and warm up a little bit.

And Conrad was nice enough to snap a photo.

That sounds kind of weird.

No, there's a curtain.

It was all on the up and up.

That sounded weird too, but so I'll be posting that shortly.

But hey, welcome, folks.

If you're just joining us, you've missed a pretty good show so far.

I wouldn't say it's our best, but it was a pretty damn good show.

And you can catch the first two hours on the podcast at civicmedia.us.

So certainly please do that.

We talked to Ilian Hoskins in the first hour.

He is a young judo champ from Madison, a middle schooler, 12 years old, and he hopes to compete in the Olympics someday.

It was very nice to talk to Ilian.

And then if you heard part of the second hour, you know that we talked to Gray Gunderson, Parker Olson, Dom Lee.

Conrad and I had a spirited discussion about the Bears and the Packers.

It was almost too...

Conrad

Nice.

Yeah, we didn't we didn't get into big arguments then I you can't really there's no fisticuffs over the stream You know all right, so your question

Peach Waba

shouting

Conrad

you what you should have asked is

Peach Waba

who's

Conrad

better Jordan love or kill Williams?

Peach Waba

Yeah,

Conrad

that would have they would have got you know heated debate Right now I would say Jordan love See and well Let's just say this

Peach Waba

overall, but you clutch Caleb's got the clutch jeans.

Conrad

I don't know.

Peach Waba

That's

Conrad

a

Peach Waba

tough

Conrad

one

Yeah, I mean, some of the throws.

This is the thing that that Jordan Love has, like, because I've experienced Aaron Rodgers, Matt Flynn for like, you know, a cup of coffee and Jordan Love.

And the thing that Aaron Rodgers had that I think Jordan Love doesn't is, I guess, from my perspective is every time Aaron Rodgers made a throw, I wouldn't be scared.

Peach Waba

You're scared if Jordan love does

Conrad

when he tosses it downfield.

I'm like, oh,

Peach Waba

yeah

Conrad

When Aaron Rodgers did I'm like, oh, that's gonna be amazing ball.

Peach Waba

That's really interesting because even with the two picks last week I think Jordan loves TD to interception ratio is

Conrad

still

Peach Waba

really

Conrad

good.

I know don't

Peach Waba

get me wrong.

I think

Conrad

Jordan loves phenomenal Yeah, there's just sometimes where he's like off the back foot and chucking at 60 yards

I love Jordan, I think.

He's great, but nothing beats the feeling I had when Aaron Rodgers tossed it downfield to Devonte Adams.

Peach Waba

I will say that I think that where the Packers have really scored, and they're a solid organization, they've always had good leadership, at least for the last 30 some years, is like Parker said, they have a great quarterback coach, but not only just a quarterback coach, Mike McCarthy, Mike Holmgren,

Both offensive minds, both great coaches, and Favre and Rogers benefited from that.

And I think Love is now too with Matt LaFleur.

I think he's a really good coach for Jordan Love to have.

Now, I think Jordan, or I think...

Of the three of those Aaron Rodgers would have been good regardless.

I think he probably needed less coaching than the other two But yeah benefited,

Conrad

you

Peach Waba

know, I mean

Conrad

the thing that I saw from you know I mean he did it with Mike McCartney too, but they he did butt heads a little bit with the coaches sometimes

Peach Waba

But this is because who he is?

He's a dink.

I mean the guy's a great guy's a great quarterback, but he's a dink

Conrad

What I was gonna say I really like watching Josh Jacobs play.

Peach Waba

Yeah, he's good.

That was a good

Conrad

pickup

He's just, I mean, yeah, that's fantastic.

Peach Waba

The second year?

Conrad

The second year for the Packers, yeah.

Yeah, he was really... And it just shows how much improvement we've had over just the run game is just something we can lean on to.

You had kind of a gap there between... Well, not really.

Peach Waba

Between him and who is the guy that... Aaron Jones.

Yeah, Aaron Jones.

Wasn't there a year or two between... No,

Conrad

there was a point.

There was a point where we signed Josh Jacobs and there wasn't full news yet on Aaron Jones for like...

Two days every Packers fans are like,

Peach Waba

you know, we're gonna get

Conrad

them both Which is dumb first

Peach Waba

of all,

Conrad

but no,

Peach Waba

that's hilarious.

All right.

I'm gonna ask Conrad in just a moment

something I think some Packer fans secretly want but won't admit.

Okay.

But I'll ask that, but first we're gonna refresh everybody's memory for our awesome question of the night.

Conrad

Let's talk about the question.

Peach Waba

Okay, question.

Question.

Conrad

Question.

Pregunta.

Question.

Peach Waba

Question.

Conrad

Okay, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Domanda.

Question.

Question.

Questions.

Peach Waba

Tonight's question, eggnog, yes or no?

Go to town folks.

Let me know what you think about eggnog I would say the nose were winning for a while But there were some yeses on social media that we just read before the break.

So I would imagine we're around even maybe Just some fun facts for you number one state where they love their eggnog is New Hampshire The state where they least like eggnog is Florida

So, it could be, you know, a hot weather thing, a warm weather thing.

Eggnog can be sort of warm your bones a little bit.

I don't care for it.

I don't like the eggs.

Conrad likes it.

So, we're at odds here too.

So, let us know what you think though.

You can let us know at 855-752-4842-8557-5CIVIC.

You can also text us on the app.

Or if you're watching the radio on the stream, you can drop us a stream comment and we will read it on the air.

So, I think we're caught up on the text line.

We do have some stream comments, though.

Dave, we already read Dave's response on Eggnog.

He was not a fan.

Sydney Politics.

Dave's pal says, hey, Dave, happy holidays.

Those two, I thought there was something going on there because they hadn't conversed lately.

But it's good to see those guys back in action over the streamline.

Sydney Politics says, quick trip, Eggnog, yes.

So, not only does he like eggnog, he's going gas station eggnog.

I gotta give that a try.

I've never tried it.

Dave says Merry Christmas to all.

Merry Christmas, Dave.

Trumpet Joe, 40.

This is a first.

This could be a first.

Trumpet Joe.

Go Bears, bear down.

Thank you, Trumpet Joe.

And Sydney Politics says Rex Grossman was the best quarterback post McMahon.

I might go Eric Kramer there, but I did let Rex had moments.

He definitely had a cannon.

So wouldn't totally disagree with you there, Sidney.

Thank you.

I hope he and his girlfriend are still talking because she kind of remember she

Announcer

was texting us the night about

Peach Waba

how there was dissension in the Sidney politics household.

But Sidney continues says also those magical few games by Josh McCown.

Oh

Conrad

yeah, Josh did.

A couple names you

Peach Waba

haven't

Conrad

heard in a while except for Rex Crossford.

Peach Waba

And the fact that

You know the fact that you got to go who was that?

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

No, he was a good quarterback That's how it is with the Bears like we just haven't had a good quarterback like Cutler had great skills But he was a tool you threw a lot of picks

Conrad

last night's I was I was watching that by the way from Rommel game last night Yeah,

Peach Waba

that was a good game.

I saw the last

Conrad

funny is uh, I didn't know who was calling the game.

I didn't look but He was talking about Sam Darnold and he had a brief.

Yeah

Well, I don't know if Sam Bradford.

Peach Waba

Oh, I heard that

Conrad

like Bradford.

Peach Waba

That's Kirk Herbstree.

Yeah quite, you know, I think I like him It was funny though.

I

Conrad

haven't heard Sam Bradford's name in

Peach Waba

a while Do you ever find yourself cheering for a guy like cuz I saw like the last six minutes and they were saying the rap on Donald is he can't win He's not a come-from-behind guy.

He doesn't win the big game and Instantly I was cheering for him.

Oh instantly.

I mean, I

Conrad

mean like I've been cheering for him since he was you know

The second string quarterbacks before the Vikings.

Yeah, I always thought he was pretty good and he's kind of a bust

Peach Waba

I

Conrad

mean if you get drafted to the Jets good luck

Peach Waba

They'll make you a bus and

Conrad

then and then the next thing we go to is the Panthers I mean come on.

Yeah, and the Bryce young seven Okay season, but the team around him is doing better,

Peach Waba

right?

No, that was interesting and I did find myself immediately because Stafford's he's got a Super Bowl.

He's probably been an MVP's breaking records Yeah, I was totally cheering for Sam Darnall to come back and he did so good good for the Seahawks Casey James on the stream says Reggie White led the league in miracles.

Yeah, he was was he the

Conrad

preacher man?

I really wish I

Peach Waba

got to see him play.

Yeah, he was the same thing with Mike Parsons.

It's like like how did you let

This guy go.

Right?

I mean, it just doesn't make sense.

Jerry Jones, you

Conrad

know, had a... There was talk about him giving up CD-Lam too, which would be so dumb.

Peach Waba

Yeah, he's kind of a... He's a little bit of a nut job, I think.

So what was this question you wanted to ask?

The question I was going to ask you is...

The Bears are in the middle of this huge, now it's, they're talking to Northwest Indiana.

And I've said on this show, and I'm not, whatever, it's just not what we typically talk about, but I do think like areas like Kenosha, Racine, right on the lake, they're gonna boom at some point.

With the climate change and all that, and they say Michigan's gonna be the number one state to live in, Wisconsin's gonna be right behind it.

We have these Great Lakes, I think Gary and Hammond and that whole corner, that's still Lake Michigan.

That is the southernmost tip of the Great Lakes.

So the water is warmer there, maybe by a degree.

But I think anyone who goes in there and sets up shop is going to clean up because I think that area will come back.

And I've heard from people who whatever that I follow that the bears are serious.

And frankly, they should have gone there first before they bought this land in Arlington Heights to maybe for leverage.

But now I guess it's not about leverage.

The Illinois government.

which say what you want about the Illinois government.

They're all over the place and they have a seriously corrupt history.

They're saying they won't even get to this till 2027.

So what are the bears supposed to do?

They either go to Kenosha or Gary or Hammond.

So I don't blame them.

It'll be interesting to see what happens.

My first choice is that they stay in the city.

That's a very picturesque setting on the lakefront.

And I hope they build it.

kick-ass dome that you can have a U2 concert in or a Final Four and they put the trains there and they rebuild the infrastructure.

I think it'd be great for the city of Chicago.

My question is to you, Conrad and Packer fans, do you secretly wish the Packers had a dome?

No.

Really?

I think you hate winter too.

Every day you complain about winter.

Conrad

Yeah, but I think it gives an element of home field advantage for the Packers.

They're

Peach Waba

used to

Conrad

the cold.

Yeah.

A lot of players like

For example, last year we faced Miami when they were playing.

They were playing really good football and we won

Peach Waba

because

Conrad

they weren't they were not ready for that cold weather.

OK, I think I think that the cold weather gives Lambo its special advantage.

Well, I'm like this.

It's Lambo.

Your Lambo field, you know, that's that's what Lambo field is.

It's.

Once you get into the stadium, it's like.

And a cold night even though it's cold.

You're still like I'm in Lambo field.

Peach Waba

Yeah,

Conrad

you know

Peach Waba

Yeah, it's it's funny because some friends of mine have said the Packers or Lambo field are the last Stadium not to to be in cold weather, but the bills still play outside.

Yeah, but they're gonna

Conrad

new one too.

Peach Waba

Are they getting a dome?

Yeah, are

Conrad

they really?

I mean, I imagine and not a lot of stadiums that are being built are Gonna be open

Peach Waba

open here.

I love

the Vikings, I think that's a gorgeous stadium.

And it's kind of outdoor because of the window.

It looks beautiful.

I

Conrad

really want to go to a game there.

Peach Waba

Yeah.

You know, let us know what you think, folks.

I mean, do you secretly wish the Packers had a dome or some kind of temperature control somehow?

And most people, if they don't go to the games regularly, don't care.

They probably want the

Conrad

advantage.

You know, if you're cold, just go into the bathrooms.

They're heated.

Peach Waba

Alright, we're coming right back.

We're going to read some more of your texts, and I've got a very funny clip of Gary Cole talking about office space.

It's Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Host

Welcome back.

It is a bar band Friday night, ladies and gentlemen, the last one of the year.

Terry Bar will be here after the news at 7.30.

And we are very excited.

She has brought really, really great music tonight, as usual.

But we've got a Christmas song and one that's not a Christmas song from two great artists.

So we will talk to Terry about both of those in just a few minutes.

What do you think?

I know Terry's going to.

We'll ask her about the dome, but I don't think she's she's open air all the way

Co-Host

Yeah, I'm gonna say a lot of pager fans are probably gonna say the same thing unless they've went to a game when we're cold

Host

Well that game what we talked about when Parker and Gray were here.

I still remember the date.

It was like December 9th 1980 When you shortly after we've moved here it was so

Cold it was like bone-chilling and you know we were kind of squeezed in it was old Lambo So we were like yeah warm from body heat, but man.

Oh man.

That

Gary Cole

was

Host

brutal But I think we're also gonna you know you mentioned this I forgot about this, but I did hear Terry's piece on the Packer fans being this way the sexiest fans and

Co-Host

I think they ranked up there, but I think I think she said Seattle or something was one of the top maybe Los

Host

Angeles

How

Co-Host

they

Host

pull that off criteria like what went into that like

Co-Host

well, you know every stadium's got those Those cameras that can zoom in to those go to

Host

go to fans

Co-Host

And they just they just they look straight at me and they're like all right.

He's up there not that guy on camera not

Host

LA sexy Wisconsin sexy Well, wait, the sexy is sexy.

I mean if you're gonna say not LA sexy that means LA has the sexiest fans

But if the Packers have sexier fans than LA

Co-Host

what we got we got to ask her, but I forget who is number one

Host

Yeah, I'll say this when it comes to the uniforms.

I think that Cleveland, please Cleveland here.

Here's my issue with Cleveland's the Browns They are so horrible and I feel bad because my sister's family Her husband Dan is from Cleveland.

They raised their kids there.

They're all Browns fans, but

It's tough if you're if you're them.

It's tough.

They the Sean Watson thing was a disaster.

What a stupid move The ownership is awful The uniforms and colors are terrible just a logo is the name

Co-Host

the rounds

Host

Yeah, let's associate our team with excrement like why would you do that?

Like they need an entire rebrand makeover of everything but that leads me to the Packers as a as a Northeast Wisconsin resident I love

when they wear white with the green and gold accent.

I don't like the green.

I mean, the green and gold is iconic.

I get it, but I love those white uniforms.

Co-Host

And so this is what we talked about on Make the Call as well as we asked, what do we want for Christmas as for sports?

And Parker said, I want those white uniforms, but with a yellow stripe instead of a green one for the helmet.

Okay.

Because he says it makes it feel more Packers.

Yeah.

And I agree.

I think that those uniforms would be cooler with yellow stripes.

Either way,

Host

I like those better.

I just think they look slick.

Co-Host

Oh,

Host

yeah.

OK, so I found this clip I want to play.

This is Rich Eisen has such great guests sometimes, not like nightlight guests, but he's, but he had Gary Cole on.

Gary Cole, for those of you who don't know, played Lumberg in office space, one of the most surprise hits.

probably of the last 30 years, the movie theater, where it did not do well, but then it came back strong with Reynolds, and it's just one of the most quotable movies ever.

This is him talking about landing the role of Lumberg, and there's a couple quick animation points in there where they show Milton, the character played by Stephen Root.

But let's play that.

This is Gary Cole talking about how he got the part in office space and office space.

Rich Eisen

How

Host

did

Rich Eisen

you wind up on Office Space?

You know, kind of a traditional call from an agent, except for, along with the script, I got a VHS cassette of two little short animations called Office Space, by Mike Judge.

Yes.

And I popped those in, and they both begin with Milton sitting in his cubicle mumbling to himself.

Milton (Character Quote)

I told Bill, if they move my desk one more time, I'm quit.

Rich Eisen

And then you hear footsteps and this Lumberg-esque dude comes in with glasses and kind of peers over the cubicle and begins to torment Milton.

And so when I watched it, I like a lot of people probably recognize that guy, you know, as a boss I certainly had.

So I figured, well, what am I going to do for this audition?

I can't do it better than that.

So I'll just do that.

So I went in and tried to do my best imitation of this animation and I guess Mike liked

Gary Cole

it.

We're gonna need to go ahead and move you downstairs into Storage B. We have some new people coming in and we need all the space we can

Rich Eisen

get.

Were you channeling any former boss of your life?

Milton (Character Quote)

I

Rich Eisen

had a boss named...

Buck Palmer.

I worked at a place called Kinney Shoes.

And it's funny because now that I think of it, Buck wore one of those blue dress shirts but with the white collar, but he had white shoes on too.

I don't know if he had suspenders.

And I thought, my God, he never raised his voice.

but he you could tell he wasn't thrilled to be there and he certainly wasn't thrilled that anybody else was there too including his employees so there was probably a little bit of buck but mostly Mike judge whether any memos

Gary Cole

did you see the memo about this yeah yeah yeah i have the memo right here i just uh forgot but uh it's not shipping out till tomorrow so there's no problem yeah

If you could just go ahead and make sure you do that from now on, that would be great.

We didn't get memos.

Rich Eisen

I mean, no, it was before memos.

He would just, Cole, can you help them in the double-pump area?

He knew it's like, I guess I have the best job in this place, but that's not saying much.

I just love that you just channeled Lundberg here, and that's become a

cult hit, right?

When we did it, uh,

Milton (Character Quote)

we had

Rich Eisen

Jennifer Aniston and Ron Livingston and Steven Roode.

Yeah.

We all knew it was really great.

Everybody was a fans of Mike, but you never know what's going to hit in the theater.

And when it hit in the theater, it didn't really do well.

We all knew something was up when people started shouting the lines across the street to us.

Did you get the memo?

Host

You know,

Rich Eisen

right?

And I thought, well, what, I thought this tanked.

Host

So great and they rode Mike judge and they didn't know what he'd be a hit and then he said no to a sequel because they made his life so miserable Hey, it's bar ban Friday night folks Terry bar will be here after the news.

It's peach wabba and nightlight on the civic media radio

Rich Eisen

network

Pete Schwabba

Time to check out original music with Bar Band Friday on Nightlight.

Now your host Pete Schwabba and special guest, Terry Barr.

All right.

We've got Terry Barr dressed as a Santa Claus tonight.

So you can't beat that.

I mean, our pal Terry, who the segment is named after Bar Band Friday night, joins us now.

on Nightlight.

How are you, my friend?

Love the festive

Terry Barr

outfit.

Hey, what a great show you guys are having.

I love the sports talk tonight.

That was really, really fun.

Well, you know

Pete Schwabba

what?

Before we get into music, you did this piece about Packer fans being this up there.

In terms of sexiness,

Terry Barr

you said the Packer...

Pete Schwabba

Attractiveness.

Oh, Conrad went the sexy route.

That makes more sense

Terry Barr

to track.

And he was taking all the credit for it.

Let's go

Pete Schwabba

sexy.

But well done as usual another great piece and Yeah, how did you

Terry Barr

find where was your dance?

Pete Schwabba

Yeah, I disagree with

Terry Barr

you Terry.

That's okay.

You're still my wise

website and they dive into all kinds of sports information.

Oh.

And they use some wacky tool that actually can define the faces.

And that's what it was based on.

Basically sending this thing around at various stadiums and looking at fans faces.

Little did you know this was happening.

Pete Schwabba

I did not.

Terry Barr

Yeah.

Bears fans ended up fourth from the bottom.

Pete Schwabba

You already said that, Terry, and I'm gonna let that

Terry Barr

one go.

Oh, sorry, did I?

But if

Pete Schwabba

I, okay, yeah.

Terry Barr

How red are you with me?

I am.

Pete Schwabba

As usual, outstanding work, though, Terry.

I love your pieces you do here at Civic Media.

Where do you stand on eggnog?

Yes or no?

Terry Barr

You know, I saw and heard a lot of different answers and when somebody said they add Brandy to it.

I think that was the winner.

I can't drink it alone.

Yeah, you

Pete Schwabba

know that's interesting if I had to drink it That's how I'd want to drink it to something to like wash away that that

Egg taste?

Terry Barr

I know, you don't like it at all, really.

I don't

Pete Schwabba

really like it, but that's okay.

To each his own, I would say the, and people seem like they're pretty much split down the middle, so.

Yes.

It's been a fun little poll here, informal as it were.

All right, let's talk.

I love these bands, Terry.

Tell them, who do you want to do first?

Because I love Wheelhouse, and it's not a Christmas song, but it is a great

Terry Barr

tune.

Let's do

Pete Schwabba

that.

All right, let's talk Wheelhouse.

Tell us about Wheelhouse.

Terry Barr

Well, and that's my outfit tonight.

Wheelhouse is hosting the 11th annual ugly sweater party this Sunday afternoon in Madison at the High Noon Saloon.

This is always quite the event to attend.

Wow.

Wheelhouse has played everywhere, and I'm not kidding when I tell you this.

Wheelhouse has played all over the country, all over the state.

We even took a busload of fans to Nashville when they were vying in a contest to win a recording contract.

Pete Schwabba

Wow.

Terry Barr

Yeah, they ended up second, unfortunately.

But I've never heard anything from the band that landed first, so who knows how these contests go.

Kirstie Krause (music lyrics)

But

Terry Barr

they used to play more than 225 shows a year, Pete.

Pete Schwabba

Yeah, I saw that.

Terry Barr

That's crazy.

Yeah, because they believed in what they do so much.

That's quite a few years ago, you know, time marches on and I hate this because...

They haven't dissolved completely, but each of them have their own projects they're working on.

Some got married, some had kids, but they still get together maybe three, four, five times a year to do a come together concert.

And this is one of those.

Pete Schwabba

This must be like, you know, going from 220 shows a year to four or five, are they packed?

Are they all in Madison?

When they do these four to five shows, are they typically always local?

Terry Barr

Yes.

They used to play all over the state, but typically because they're now Madison based, all four of them, the shows have been in Madison, but anybody that has seen them anywhere in the state or around the country, I mean, I know there are some people that some of the past shows have flown in to be part of a show because it just doesn't happen enough anymore.

Pete Schwabba

Very nice.

Well, I also want to wish you that you said this is your husband's favorite band.

which is really cool.

And it was your anniversary this week.

So happy anniversary to you and your

Terry Barr

home.

Oh, thank you.

My goodness, Pete.

Pete Schwabba

I put a little heart emoji under your Facebook post, but you ever do this?

I did that.

And then I look up, I go, oh, this post is from five days ago.

Like I'm late to the party lately.

You know, you guys could be divorced by

Terry Barr

now.

It's hard to keep track

Pete Schwabba

of everything.

All right.

So this song is called hungover and brokenhearted.

Great tune.

Should we, should we roll it, Terry?

Terry Barr

Let's roll it.

Just listen to the words for everyone who is watching or listening to the show.

It's got some humor underlying all of it.

Pete Schwabba

Yeah, it's great.

This is hungover and brokenhearted by Wheelhouse.

Boy, I heard that song, Terry, and then I read the info that you sent, and I was like, oh man, I saw that they used to do 220 shows a year.

What a great tune, what a great sound.

Yeah.

And you're right, there's

Terry Barr

some funny stuff in there.

They're something special, Pete.

They really are, and I think for a really long time, the Wisconsin music scene has been looking for somebody else to break out.

Pete Schwabba

Yeah, interesting.

Terry Barr

This was gonna be the band that did it, and I...

It just didn't happen.

And you know, music, art, culture, all of it is so fickle.

Pete Schwabba

You just never know, yeah.

Terry Barr

Yeah, you listen to them, compare them to anybody else that plays this kind of music.

They're right up there.

Pete Schwabba

Oh, they're great.

That's a great song, too.

Can we download that song or can we find their music anywhere?

They on Spotify?

Terry Barr

Absolutely.

They have a great SoundCloud, and I think you can download anything you want there.

They have all their albums loaded on SoundCloud.

Fantastic.

Pete Schwabba

All right.

Very good.

Tell us about Christie Krause.

Terry Barr

Okay.

So, Kirstie is so interesting.

Oh, Kirstie, I'm sorry.

No, no, no, that is okay.

She's originally from Janesville and was having a great career just traveling around Wisconsin in the Midwest.

She had a band called Thirsty Jones.

And then she decided that wasn't enough.

You know, we hear this, you know, often kind of like talking about Wheelhouse.

So she moved to Nashville.

And I think with her family's blessing, she was going to give it a year or two.

She's not come back, except to come back and play shows at home because she says she doesn't want to ever forget where she came from.

She's killing it in Nashville.

Pete Schwabba

Wow, that's so cool.

Terry Barr

I know.

Isn't it interesting because you have one band you think is going to do it, then you have someone who goes by herself and is making it happen.

She writes a lot of songs for other people.

But she also is keeping some of her favorites, and then she records them herself with other people around Nashville.

And the holiday song we're going to hear tonight is brand new.

But they already entered it in the award contest for an I didn't even know this existed, Pete.

Kirstie Krause (music lyrics)

This

Terry Barr

is awesome.

The TROP Rock Radio Song of the Year TROP Rock.

Pete Schwabba

Like

Terry Barr

TROP it,

Pete Schwabba

right?

Like Tropic?

Yeah.

It's like similar to Yacht Rock, only Tropic.

I love that.

And I thought

Terry Barr

that was

Pete Schwabba

fantastic.

All right, very cool.

So this is Kirstie Krause.

And this is an original holiday tune from a Wisconsin artist by way of Terry Barr.

And it is called Tropic Wonderland.

Let's do it.

Kirstie Krause (music lyrics)

Sleigh bells ring Are you listening?

On the beach Santa's glistening A beautiful sight We're happy tonight Walking in a tropical wonderland Gone away is the bluebird Here to stay are the snowbirds We'll sing along

As we go along Walking in a traffic wonderland

Kirstie Krause

By the

Kirstie Krause (music lyrics)

ocean we can build a salmon Then pretend that he's passing brown He'll say, are you married?

We'll say, no man But you've been doing your job while you're in town

As we dream by the fire To face on a train The plans that we made Walking in a tropic wonderland By

Kirstie Krause

the

Kirstie Krause (music lyrics)

ocean we can build a sandman And pretend that

Kirstie Krause

he's a

Kirstie Krause (music lyrics)

circus clown We'll have lots of fun with Mr. Sandman

Until the other kids knock them down When it's windy and thrilling When we're surfing and itchinging We're fronting and playing The cold come away Walking in a traffic wonderland Walking in a traffic wonderland Big finish!

And it's jumping on the

Pete Schwabba

land.

Fun song.

Love it.

Terry Barr

Oh, and it's perfect for the weather that we are having right now.

Warms your heart a

Pete Schwabba

little bit.

Yeah, absolutely.

Trap rock.

I love it.

Terry, can we keep you for just a couple more minutes past the break?

Terry Barr

Sure, I'd love to stay.

A couple

Pete Schwabba

questions for you.

Fantastic.

Terry Barr

Terry Barr's here, folks.

Maybe I have to go.

Just

Pete Schwabba

kidding.

It's a barbed Friday night.

And that is the kind of sassy behavior you get from our guest, Terry Barr.

We're coming right back.

Peach Wabba at

Kirstie Krause (music lyrics)

nightlight.

Station Announcer

Welcome

Pete Schwabba (host)

back.

We're in the homestretch here, folks.

Your weekend started a while ago.

Conrad and I, we will start our weekend in just a few minutes.

It has been so much fun, and I am so thrilled at the response we got tonight with our question.

Thank you for being part of the show, folks.

We have a few texts we'll finish up in just a moment.

I'd like to thank Ilya and Hoskins, middle school judo champ.

Terry, there's a story.

This kid, what a great kid.

Oh,

Terry Barr

and he's such a cutie,

Pete Schwabba (host)

and he's so

Terry Barr

fun with you guys.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Fun and funny.

Yeah, he was such a good kid, and it was so fun to talk to him.

My thanks to Greg Gunderson, Parker Olson, and Dom Lee and Conrad Krieger for being part of our Fun Bear Packer Talk.

And obviously, Terry Barr, and thank you for all your texts, as I said.

Have a great weekend, and we'll do this, we'll do, we got a short week next week, folks, but we got great guests.

In fact, Terry, I wanted to tell you my pal Paul Gannis, an actor will be here.

I mentioned this earlier in the week.

He has a great

Rob Reiner's story.

And it involves Kevin Costner as well.

But it just speaks to what a great guy Rob Reiner was.

So he's gonna be on the show Monday night at about 6'10 or 6'15.

And we'll talk to Paul.

He's happy to tell the story and it's gonna be fun.

And I think you should definitely hear it because it might be worth a write up or a mention or

Terry Barr

something.

I will be listening.

Pete Schwabba (host)

All right, fantastic.

Absolutely.

That is Monday night at 6'10.

We've also got comedian Johnny Beiner on the show.

Always fun, Johnny Beater.

Mike Clemens will be here at 535 to wrap up the Bear Packer extravaganza and Milwaukee Mob Talk at 735 with two experts and podcasters.

Actually, I think they're on at 720.

So they will be here in studio.

That'll be fun.

Terry, you're kind of a purist, I assume, when it comes to the Packers.

What do you think?

Are you glad there's no dome at Lambo?

SPEAKER_??

Yes.

OK.

Pete Schwabba (host)

I know we

Terry Barr

can never host a Super Bowl because I think they think it would just be too cold, but who knows with climate change?

Pete Schwabba (host)

Well,

Terry Barr

I'm not a fan of the climate change, but

Pete Schwabba (host)

you know either

Terry Barr

but might

Pete Schwabba (host)

have a few perks.

We didn't anticipate though.

I guess

Terry Barr

yeah

Pete Schwabba (host)

All right, that's what I wanted to ask you and I want to tell you about Paul so

Great stuff tonight.

As always, great tunes.

Keep up the great work.

Love reading your stuff here at Civic Media and happy anniversary again.

Well, happy

Terry Barr

holidays to you and everyone because I think, Pete, this may be the last one until the new year.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Oh, I mentioned that earlier and I totally forgot to mention that with you.

Yeah, this is our last Barman Friday night until January 9th or 10th or something like that.

Okay.

We'll get kicked off.

Yeah.

Oh, I will

Terry Barr

miss you too.

Pete Schwabba (host)

No, you won't.

You'll enjoy a fish fry on a Friday for a change.

It'll be fun.

So please live it up.

Yeah.

And happy anniversary again.

And thank you so much as always for introducing us to great music.

Have a great weekend.

Terry and a great Christmas and holiday season.

Terry Barr

Thank you and everyone too.

Pete Schwabba (host)

All right.

That's Terry Bar folks.

She's a treasure and she joins us here every Friday night for Bar Band Friday night.

And we absolutely love that.

We do have a...

A few more texts here we'll get to.

Sydney Politics says, since we're doing all this sports talk, can we get everyone's pick on the Joshua, on the Anthony Joshua versus Jake Paul boxing match tonight?

God, Sydney, I gotta tell you, I

Conrad Krieger (producer)

don't know.

He's a snooze fest, probably.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Anything about that.

If it's on Netflix, expect everything to reload every few minutes.

That's all I can say about

Conrad Krieger (producer)

that.

I expect a lot of hugging.

Yeah.

A lot of hugging, a draw maybe, or a...

They'll both be up.

There's no knockouts.

No

Pete Schwabba (host)

knockouts.

They're bros, I'm sure.

Conrad Krieger (producer)

They're all going to be like, all right, good fight.

But where's my where's my billion dollars?

Pete Schwabba (host)

Yeah, I just it's kind of a scam.

I mean, I if when when Jake Paul gets knocked on his ass or is out cold, then I'll go, oh, this is real.

That's not

Conrad Krieger (producer)

going to happen, though.

It's a dance.

OK, this is what I'm going to say.

The moment that happens, it was planned.

It was planned for him to go down.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Yeah.

Yeah, well, you mean you think you take took a dive

Conrad Krieger (producer)

or he'll take a dive like say in like a couple of years And he's won the past you know three boxy matches and everyone's like yeah still the same way of this is definitely rigged Obviously, he's gonna be like oh, yeah.

Well, what about this match?

I just got knocked out But I still made I still made 70 million dollars.

Pete Schwabba (host)

So it's a lucrative nap

Speaking of Sydney politics, his other half, better half, I don't know, I don't know them that well.

Rachel says, hello, it's me.

The surgery on Sydney's dad that we discussed last night, the cop.

Postponed at Christmas Eve somehow.

She says the surgery is still happening, but the house is not divided.

Well, that's good.

She says the holidays are always crazy and we are making it work, LOL.

Sydney is going to be cooking and he's a great chef, making it up with food.

See, I don't have that going for me.

Conrad Krieger (producer)

Would it kill Sydney to make a quiche for

Pete Schwabba (host)

night light?

Yeah.

How about a nice butt cake, Sydney?

Send something our way here.

make you feel good with your culinary skills.

But I don't have that.

I can't say to my wife, all cookie dinner, she'd be like, okay, no thanks.

You wanna make it up to me?

Don't cook.

That's actually not true.

I'm not a bad cook or chef, but I pick my things

Conrad Krieger (producer)

that I do

Pete Schwabba (host)

wish.

I can make a really good chicken green curry.

I make great pasta, pesto pasta, Cajun shrimp pasta.

I do

Conrad Krieger (producer)

steaks okay, but I, you know.

Could you get my medium well if I wanted?

Pete Schwabba (host)

Yeah, I could.

Conrad Krieger (producer)

What about if I wanted extra rare?

Pete Schwabba (host)

Well,

Conrad Krieger (producer)

where it's tire.

Pete Schwabba (host)

What's the old phrase?

Just knock its horns off, wipe its ass and bring it in here.

It doesn't get any rarer than that.

No, you just got to go slow.

Take your time.

Don't be in a rush.

Let that meat cook.

Dave from Madison in the 608 says eggnog with a shot of Captain Morgan is delicious as a Packer fan.

My favorite player is Jay Cutler.

Of course it is.

He was always good for a pick or two.

Yeah.

Go.

Pack go and I'll say Can

Conrad Krieger (producer)

we end the

Pete Schwabba (host)

show just on that?

I'll even that out with a bear down.

No Final remind people what your prediction was.

Conrad Krieger (producer)

I say we're gonna win by three points.

I think we're gonna squeak it out and I said a McManus will hit the game winning field goal instead of Santos like last year and he did it so then at

Pete Schwabba (host)

instead of at Lambo, yeah

Conrad Krieger (producer)

Exactly.

Pete Schwabba (host)

I'm gonna stick with actually I've increased my pick has changed.

It's gonna be Packers by 44 points

because I don't want to jinx myself.

So we will discuss all of this, folks, Monday with Mike Clemens in a short week, just Monday and Tuesday next week.

But we will still be with you in spirit.

Thank you for being part of the show tonight, folks.

Have a great weekend.

Be safe.

And on behalf of the lovable producer Conrad, I'm Pete Schwabba saying, good night,

Station Announcer

Wisconsin.

Down in the basement There's no color chart to feed and no food and drinks are free in the basement

Pete Schwab

Welcome back.

I'm Pete Schwab, and this is Nightlight.

Great to have you with me here on this beautiful Tuesday night in the state of Wisconsin, ladies and gentlemen.

Christmas is just around the corner.

There's a nip in the air.

And we are broadcasting statewide from downtown Green Bay.

Lots going on here lately.

We had a skier outside the window last night.

We got a girl in a wheelchair, our friend Sarah, who is recuperating.

She'll be our nightlight window, fun slash love tonight on social media.

So check out Sarah and wish her a speedy recovery, if you will.

Great guests tonight too, folks.

We've got in studio entertainment and hour number two, Comedy City will be here talking about a lot of fun events they have coming up and they're going to do a little.

little improv force and then comedian Boris Hamilton will be here in the third hour too.

We'll be talking Christmas movies.

and a really cool documentary he was part of that we're gonna discuss and go into a little bit of detail on.

Should be fun.

Right now, I'm excited to welcome my next guest.

This is his first time on Nightlight.

He is the founder of Joey's Song, an organization that tries to raise money for epilepsy and uses great music and a great music festival to do it.

Joining me now is Mike Gamal.

Hi, Mike.

Mike Gamal

Hello, Pete.

How

Pete Schwab

are

Mike Gamal

you?

You know what?

It's not so bad.

I'm down here in Madison, and it's a lot warmer than it was a couple days ago, so I'm not going to complain.

Pete Schwab

Yeah, I'll take it.

I'm not a cold weather guy.

Conrad and I complained about the weather all the time, yet we choose to live in Wisconsin, so it's kind of a pointless exercise, but what

Mike Gamal

are you going to do?

So I'm a lifelong Wisconsinite, except for when I moved way down south to Chicago.

So that shows you...

That shows you what a Yankee I am.

So yeah, I got no right to complain either.

Pete Schwab

You know what's funny?

Like I spent the first part of my childhood in Chicago.

I moved up to Marinette, Wisconsin, went back to Chicago for college.

So I tell this story like I'm kind of a man between two, like I'm a cheesehead when I'm in Chicago and I'm a fib when I'm here.

People don't accept me in either place.

But I do laugh because in Chicago when I was in college, people would ask me where I'm from.

And I would tell them, and it's four hours north, and they'd go, oh, man, you're way

Mike Gamal

up.

And

Pete Schwab

these would be people from Appleton saying, oh, you live way up.

And

Mike Gamal

then I

Pete Schwab

moved to LA for 15 years, and I'm like, it's all the Midwest, and it's freezing.

Mike Gamal

Well, and we'll get into that, I'm sure, as we talk.

But that's part of my dilemma as I'm recruiting all these artists from LA to come to Massachusetts in January.

It involves a lot of finagling, shall we say.

SPEAKER_??

Yeah.

Pete Schwab

But you know what?

The cause is so great.

I'm sure you have no trouble.

And I've heard how, you know, Frank, a shout out to our pal, Frank Anderson, who introduced us and he's a big part of Joey's song as well.

And so it's great to meet you, Mike.

It's great to have you here.

Let's jump right in and talk about this just absolutely wonderful event you have coming up January 8th through the 12th at the Sylvie Joey song.

Tell us a little bit of the background.

Mike Gamal

So, yeah, so Joey Song is in memory of my son Joe, who unfortunately passed away after battling a severe form of epilepsy his entire short life.

He died just shy of his fifth birthday.

Epilepsy is a spectrum disorder.

It's got a myriad of causes and a myriad of ways that it manifests itself.

Joe, unfortunately, was born with a chromosomal disorder.

I can never say that properly, but that's because I need to put in my polygrip.

But in his brain, stuff that was supposed to go left was going right and it caused all sorts of problems.

And so even when Joe was still with us, I had thought about trying to do

something to try to raise money for the next family, something we still say here in Joey's song.

But at that point, I had a child with severe special needs, as well as Joe's older brother and sister.

And we were just trying to make it to bedtime.

But once Joe passed away,

I started to kind of flexible muscles.

I didn't do this as a career, but back in Madison in the 80s when I was in school here, I worked at a club called Headliners, which had a lot of bands on the way up.

We always refer to it as we had the MTV bands on the way up and the 60s bands on the way down kind of thing.

That was in seed venue.

I did not go on to do that, but I've always been kind of a music person.

And the one golden thread out of that, there was another fellow kicking around Madison at the time called Butch Vig.

And Butch and I ran in the same circles and he went off to win Grammy Awards and MTV Moonmen and I did not.

But when it came time to try to start this effort that we now call Joey's song, it would have been a fool's errand for me to call anybody but Butch.

Pete Schwab

Wow, that is so great.

And talk about, man, so you've got this friend who, who helps you get this thing off the ground and he's a music, certainly he's just a music legend.

I mean,

Mike Gamal

the smart

Pete Schwab

studio story, his connection to Wisconsin is great and he's just conquered the music world.

Mike Gamal

Yeah.

When you've won a Grammy for producing Paul McCartney, that's the mount, that's the mountaintop.

So,

Pete Schwab

you know, just a quick aside about Butch Vig, I've had the opportunity to interview him twice at once on PBS Wisconsin.

And Wendy Schneider was there.

I'm sure, you know, Wendy,

Mike Gamal

we were in the green

Pete Schwab

room.

He's really funny.

He kept doing this voice about the frozen tundra or something like that.

Like

Mike Gamal

he was going

Pete Schwab

to break into the frozen tundra.

You know,

Mike Gamal

I wasn't expecting that.

No.

First of all, and all your listeners locally, there is no larger Packer fan in the world than Butch.

I would defy it.

there's a bunch of us including our friend Frank that have this text thread that has been going on for years and it centers around the Packers and Butch was sitting in the airport on Sunday down in Melbourne they were garbage just finish up their Australia tour and was complaining because the Wi-Fi was so bad he couldn't watch the Packer game so that tells you all you need to know but yeah he's just a he's just a straight shooter a good guy and I don't know what I did to deserve a friend like him but

Thank goodness I got him.

Pete Schwab

Well, you're the driving force behind this, Mike.

And it's just such a great event.

And tell us a little bit about like, it was a one night event until recently.

And now it's a whole festival, the freezing man festival.

Am I getting that right?

Yeah.

Mike Gamal

Yeah.

So we just talked a little bit about me trying to get these people from LA to come out in January and all of them assume that, you know, we are all don't move for four months up here.

And so rather than fight it,

Instead of burning man.

We're leaning right into it and calling it freezing man So that's that's the idea behind it and really it's one of these things that has evolved It was not always what it is now So I probably should go back and answer your first question, which is what is the joey song freezing man.

So What we do I'll try to summarize it so many of the folks we just mentioned butch and Frank and our pal Corey Chisel and Alex Drossert and a lot of those guys from up there in the Green Bay Appleton area

Along with butch and duke erickson from garbage and freedy johnston have this kind of knock around band.

They call the know it all boyfriends.

It's basically a chance.

Yeah, it's a chance for them to get silly and play stuff.

They don't normally play and have a few beers and so what they do

is they serve as a house band for lack of a better phrase.

And we bring in all these amazing people.

I will break some news that I just found out about 25 minutes ago.

I'll save it for the end of the roster here, but we've added a new guest literally just 25 minutes ago.

So we've got Jane Wiedland and Gina Shock from the Go-Go's and Vicki Peterson from the Bangles and John Resnick from Goo Goo Dolls and Hugo Burnham from Gang of Four.

Chris Collingwood from Fountains and Wayne, Max Collins from Eve Six, on and on and on and on.

And we just added a few days ago Kurt Smith from Tears for Fears.

Oh,

Pete Schwab

nice.

Mike Gamal

I just found out about 20 minutes ago that Matt Sorem from Guns N' Roses is joining us as well.

So we've got amazing people.

they all come to madison and we put on these concerts this year we're putting on one acoustic storytellers night and another one will be a full blown jam and the best part of it is they don't play their songs they play each others and covers right because for a lot of these people you know they play their hits 207 a year right and so the fact that they can play a Beatles song with you know the guitars from fountains of wane and jody stevens from big star and you know so on

It's just an amazing thing, and it's really full of these one-off musical moments that happen, and that's the best way I can describe it to people.

You get these, a melgum of Grammy winners in Rock and Roll Hall of Famers all getting together and playing ACDC.

It's truly, if I won't sprain my elbow, patting myself on the back, it is truly, truly, and I don't want to overblow it like this was some grand plan I had.

This has just evolved into it, and it's a glorious thing.

Pete Schwab

Mike Amal is my guest.

He is the founder of Joey Song, an event he founded on behalf of his late son, and they try to raise money for epilepsy.

And I love that none of the bands, Mike, take money.

And you've, all those names you just mentioned, like this would be a great event, even if it wasn't for a good cause.

It would be an incredible

Mike Gamal

festival,

Pete Schwab

right?

Mike Gamal

Yeah.

Yeah.

Pete, that's a great point you made about the artist.

I need everybody to know

All those people I just named and a few that I didn't because I'm slowing down in my old age and I don't have it written down in front of me, all come to Madison for four or five days.

Most everybody will come in on Wednesday, will rehearse all day Thursday, do shows on Friday and Saturday, rehearse on the, and, you know, they get a ham sandwich and two beers is, you know, their, their payment for it.

And, you know, I don't know what Butch gets.

for a day's work, but I guarantee it's not that.

You know, so do you play?

You know, the thing I got to throw on top of it for all of our Wisconsin listers is the guy that keeps the whole night moving is everybody's favorite Wisconsinite, Charlie Barron.

So Charlie plays kind of MC and ringmaster.

Pete Schwab

Does he do the manna to walk minute?

Are you anticipating he's going

Mike Gamal

to?

Well, I got to tell you two years ago, he sang.

Pete Schwab

Oh dear.

How was that?

Was

Mike Gamal

he

Pete Schwab

good?

Mike Gamal

Oh, yeah.

Pete Schwab

He

Mike Gamal

and his pal Adam Gruhl from Horseshoes and Hand Grenades have a couple albums out and they're what you would expect.

They're, you know, they're songs about supper clubs and beer gardens.

But yeah, he's great.

He's really great.

Pete Schwab

Fantastic.

Wow.

So you're like literally banging on all cylinders.

You've got a great host, great bands.

Do you play, Mike?

Do you play with them?

Mike Gamal

No, but my son, my 23-year-old son, Sam, does.

He's a singer-songwriter and he gets to

I'll tell a quick aside if we've got a minute.

Sure.

A couple years ago, one of our guests was a guy called Brian Ray, and Brian's day job is he plays guitar with Paul McCartney and has for the last 30 years.

And Sam, one of his first, this he was 18 at the time, one of his first live performances, he sang on the stage at the Sylvie with Brian Ray, Butch Vig, Chris Collingwood, Freedy Johnston, and they sang, Don't Let Me Down.

So, he's got all the talent in the family.

I'm nothing compared to my son.

And as you can tell, I'm darn proud of him as well.

So I don't, but Sam does.

Pete Schwab

Way too humble there.

And you look like a musician.

You look like you're doing a behind the music or something.

You got all this great paraphernalia behind you.

How cool is that?

Mike Gamal

Well, I do we also have a podcast so most of these people come on talk and kind of do what you and I are doing and since I'm in the middle of Joey song international headquarters, otherwise known as my basement We've got kind of all of this stuff going on to make it a little more rock and roll

Pete Schwab

Were you at all concerned I have to tell you Mike when I was doing stand-up in the 90s I was working Myrtle Beach and I had to introduce Huey Lewis in the news and they were kind of on the you know the backside I guess of the career there was like a 1200 C theater and I had seen them at Summerfest like that's the kind of the jump they took Yeah at the time

Hootie and the blowfish were all the rage and I almost said hootie in the news, which would have been horrible Huey would have punched me on the way out of the stage However, you have the gogos and the goo goo dolls.

I don't know

Mike Gamal

if you

Pete Schwab

said

Mike Gamal

are you worried?

There's gonna

Pete Schwab

be a mix up there

Mike Gamal

Oh yeah, the good news is that Jane Weedlin is beautiful and so is Gina and John Resnick, according to the girls, is handsome.

So I probably won't get those two things mixed up.

But that's what Charlie's there for.

My job is to come out for a little bit and just thank everybody.

And I let the pros do the talking because you would not want me to

Pete Schwab

do that.

It sounds like you've got an amazing event here.

We'll have a couple more minutes with our guest, Mike Gamal, the founder of Joey's song on behalf of his son.

doing great work trying to find a cure for epilepsy.

And we'll give you some stats about epilepsy that you might not believe when we talk about them.

That's coming up next with Mike Gamal on Nightlight with Pete Schwab.

Great to have you here, folks.

John Legend

Hey, this is John Legend and you're listening to Nightlight with Pete Schwabba.

Welcome

Pete Schwabba

back!

News weather and sports just around the corner folks at the top of the hour right now I am very excited We've got a few more minutes with our guest Mike Gamal who is the founder of Joey's song a great event that he founded in honor of his late son who suffered from a rare form of epilepsy Mike I thought this was fascinating when I was reading about this.

I didn't know this epilepsy

claims more lives every year than breast cancer.

And it affects more people than those with multiple sclerosis, cerebral palsy, muscular dystrophy, and Parkinson's disease combined.

I mean, it's not a contest, they're all terrible things, but I had no idea about any of that.

Mike Gamal

Well, yeah, it is.

And one of the things that makes epilepsy so insidious relative to some of those other things is that

There's usually no physical sign of it.

A lot of those things that you mentioned, you can tell if somebody's struggling with MS or Parkinson's or CP.

And so it's kind of shrouded in that.

Plus, it's only been a hundred or so years since the medical community understood what was causing that, right?

Unfortunately, we're still going back to the days of demons and witchcraft on some of that.

So there's still a stigma attached to it.

It is really almost a hidden disorder.

You're absolutely right.

It's not a contest.

All of those are awful.

But some of the statistics would kind of make you sit up and take notice.

One in 26 people will develop epilepsy in their lifetime.

Pete Schwabba

One

Mike Gamal

in 26 people.

So if you think of your neighborhood, each house has four people in it.

You know, that seventh house, the odds are that somebody in that house is going to develop epilepsy in their lifetime.

What makes it even more insidious and why we're doing what we're doing is

one in three people with epilepsy in their fifty million worldwide can't get relief currently from uh... medicine or surgery or any our therapies right so that means one in three people don't know if ten minutes from now they're gonna have a seizure they're going to be in the back of an ambulance or something worse so it's pretty stark yet it's really interesting as i've been doing this even when joe was still alive in epilepsy entered my life

Most it's amazing how many people do have that connection.

You can see those statistics in real life, you know Oh, yeah, my uncle my aunt the guy I worked with my nephew It really as you talk more and more about it it you start to see that yeah, there's probably some truth behind those stats

Pete Schwabba

man

Mike Gamal is my guest, he's the founder of Joey's Song, which has turned into a really big event called the Freezing Man Festival.

It's days long now, January 8th through the 12th in Madison at the Sylvie Theater, a great venue.

Mike, if people want to go, are there still tickets left with that lineup?

Are you already sold out?

Mike Gamal

no there there are uh... joey song dot org will get you the link and either one the friday show isn't all acoustic so it's the same bill both night so all those people that i mentioned both nights friday night we're going to do it as a seated show uh... you know stools and acoustic guitars and all those artists will talk about some of their big songs either covers and why they chose them or songs that they wrote and then on saturday

it's full-blown rocket we all plug in and everybody everybody plays together there are there's only about a hundred tickets left for the acoustic show and there's about four hundred out of the twenty five hundred left for the plugged in show so i would not wait

Pete Schwabba

okay well great point hey you and i have something else uh... in common mic to when i was reading about you earlier you went to the poly university that was where i went to college

Mike Gamal

yeah i got my i got my graduate degree down there and

love the city of Chicago.

If it hadn't priced me out of the market, I'd probably still be down there because I'm a, although the biggest hate in my life is the bear.

So I am a bit of a dichotomy, but

Pete Schwabba

I do like,

Mike Gamal

yeah.

Well, I saw what Conrad's wearing.

So I know I've got at least somebody on that side with

Pete Schwabba

me.

Yeah, you got a friendly face here.

Mike Gamal

But the city of Chicago has a warm place in my heart.

And I loved DePaul.

DePaul was great.

It was very good to me.

Pete Schwabba

You know what's crazy is I've been going down to Madison once a month for like the last 12 years for this PBS gig I've been doing.

Madison is crazy expensive.

Like if you want to live down by the campus, there are people, Mike, honest to God, at the film festival there from LA that have said, I cannot believe how expensive it is here.

Madison

Mike Gamal

is crazy.

Yeah.

Well, there's a house that there is an affordable housing shortage here.

Yeah, fortunately and all of if you if you've been around for many many years East Wash Avenue all that campus stuff what were five bedroom houses are now

apartment buildings, but very desirable because the infrastructure is, I mean, great restaurants and great shops.

And it is certainly revitalized downtown.

20 years ago, if you had said downtown Madison was the place to be, you'd have been laughed at, but now it's the case.

Pete Schwabba

It's so great because I hear people complain about that.

I'm like, look, anywhere you want to go, if there is good schools,

culture, great restaurant, you pay and that's, Madison is like ranked the number one city to live in and the weather is terrible.

So that should tell you something about everything else it has to offer, you know.

Mike Gamal

Yeah, I don't want to see the algorithm, but if anything that can offset what we go through weather wise, it has to be pretty great.

Yeah, Madison's awesome.

Pete Schwabba

Mike, it was so great talking to you.

Best of luck with the event.

It's so great and I wish you luck and I admire you and I hope it crushes this year.

playing an instrumental part, hopefully in the cure for epilepsy.

So that's pretty cool.

Mike Gamal

Yeah.

I'm, I'm, I'm convinced that when they, whoever mixes that final test tube together to find a cure, I'm convinced we will have bought that test tube.

Nobody will be able to convince me otherwise.

Pete Schwabba

Outstanding.

Well, it's great to meet you.

Let's do it again sometime.

Anytime, Pete, would love to chat.

Thank you, buddy.

All right.

That's Mike Gamal.

Go to joysong.org and get one of these remaining tickets.

They're going fast and they're still, I think that acoustic show.

Sounds amazing.

I mean, I would do both of them, but that's probably where I would start.

That's fantastic.

And it's for such a great cause too.

All right, we are coming back after news, sports and weather, which is on the way next.

We've got Comedy City in the house in hour number two and all kinds of fun stuff still on tap.

I'm going to read your text too.

After the news, it's Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media radio network.

John Legend

you

Pete Schwab

I'm Pete Schwab.

This is Nightlight.

Tomorrow night on the show, lots more fun folks.

You're not going to want to miss it.

Madison film critic Rob Thomas will be here.

We'll probably touch on the new Avatar film that opens this weekend.

And Rob will tell us what he's seen.

He is always fun to talk movies with.

He'll be here tomorrow night.

Weatherman Mace Michaels can tell us what's in store for the rest of the winter.

And I need to know because if it's cold, I just need to, you know, you just got to accept it.

And that way I can prepare.

But hopefully Mace will come out and say, it's gonna be unseasonably warm.

My forecast doesn't do it for you?

No, your little iPhone does not cut it.

But anyway, that'll be a fun show.

So join us tomorrow night at Nightlight as well.

Conrad will have more window vision weather forecasts for you.

Joining us now on Nightlight is Boris Hamilton, a very funny guy who I used to do stand up with from time to time.

And Boris, we were talking about Rob Reiner.

You had an issue with

This is Spinal Tip, which last night, this was our question of the night, and I would say 20 of the people said that was their favorite Rob Reiner film, and you think it went on a little bit too long.

And I would say, you're probably right, I haven't seen it in years, but I would think when Fred Willard comes along, that would breathe new life into it.

Boris Hamilton

You would think, but at that point, they're at the Air Force Base, it's, you know, they have no more steam, it's just getting sadder.

You would think.

Just pull the plug.

It's one of those movies, like,

Kind of like The Blues Brothers, like every time you see it, it's a little longer.

Pete Schwab

You

Boris Hamilton

still love it.

You still love it, but you're like, oh, let's go.

You

Pete Schwab

still love it, but it's those, you love the parts of it you love, but you're not willing to say, you know, I don't think The Blues Brothers is a great movie.

It's a great movie to me.

because I got to see Chicago in it and I like John Belushi and the music is great.

Same thing with Spinal Tap.

I should give it another watch before I say that, but what about some of his other films?

Boris Hamilton

Well, like I said, the sure thing, I love the sure thing.

I love Stand By Me.

When Harry Met Sally is a perfect movie.

A few good men, I have so much fun watching that movie, even though it's a darker subject, but it's still like,

Everyone is so great in it right everybody And then American president has a lot of fun, too

Pete Schwab

Yeah,

Boris Hamilton

and then he keeps going and it's like okay.

I didn't know that he did Mississippi burning.

I never put that together

Pete Schwab

wait no

Boris Hamilton

Yes,

Pete Schwab

Rob Reiner directed Mississippi burning.

Boris Hamilton

Yes, how do

Pete Schwab

I'm completely spacing out because that's one of my all-time favorite movies.

Yeah Rob Reiner

Boris Hamilton

That's the guy.

Yeah.

Pete Schwab

I can't even pull it up on IMDB because I can't type Mississippi.

There's too many damn SS and PIs there.

Okay.

No, no, Alan Parker.

Are you sure?

I'm positive.

I just pulled it

Boris Hamilton

up.

Okay.

Hang on.

Let me see.

I got something here.

Are you thinking

Pete Schwab

of city slickers?

Boris Hamilton

Oh, no, I'm thinking of ghosts of Mississippi.

Oh, yeah.

Pete Schwab

There we go.

That's okay.

Boris Hamilton

I'm a horrible.

First it burns, then the ghosts.

Pete Schwab

You sent my whole world into upheaval with that because I was like, how

Boris Hamilton

did

Pete Schwab

I not know?

I'm like,

Boris Hamilton

I'm a horrible American.

Pete Schwab

But no, he was fantastic.

And we were talking about this a little bit last night.

Like he never, like directors can ruin good material if they get too directory.

He never did that.

He enhanced it.

And he just like, he didn't write most of what he directed.

I don't think, but he, he was an outstanding director.

Boris Hamilton

Outstanding director and then an amazing you know a producer and an incredible actor like

Pete Schwab

right

Boris Hamilton

I forgot that he you know he's in the Wolf of Wall Street

Pete Schwab

Yeah,

Boris Hamilton

and I didn't love that movie, but I loved every scene that he was in

Pete Schwab

right That's a great point.

Yeah And I would say Princess Bride was my favorite

but

Boris Hamilton

I

Pete Schwab

love stand by me and you're right.

I loved a few good men.

It's one of those movies I can't turn off because of the performances.

They're just

Boris Hamilton

excellent.

And all of his other movies that aren't Spinal Tap, they don't go on too long.

You're like, I need more.

Pete Schwab

Right.

Oh, that's a great point.

I forgot about North though, honestly.

And I forgot about the sure thing.

And yesterday when I was scrolling down on IMDB, I must not have gone.

That was like in the late 80s, right?

That's John Cusack.

Boris Hamilton

Yeah.

I think in like 86 maybe.

Pete Schwab

No kidding.

Interesting.

Do you, I have to ask you this, I talked about this at the beginning of the show, a friend of mine who, a friend of our shows, I guess, who does news here in Green Bay said, did you ever meet Rob Reiner?

And I never did.

And I wish I would have, but I did.

I was with an outfit called commercials unlimited for about two months.

And his brother Richie was a commercial agent in LA.

I don't know if you ever worked with that outfit or if you knew

Boris Hamilton

that.

If he did, then I'm sure I auditioned for them at some point.

Pete Schwab

Okay.

Boris Hamilton

Back then, but I don't really remember.

But of course, you know, the whole, the whole family was talented.

Pete Schwab

It was, it was, here's what I thought was strange.

And this is what it's got to be so hard being a brother to a guy like Rob Reiner or being Bill Martin, Steve's brother, whoever it is, you know.

Oh yeah.

Like this guy was a commercial agent and I sold a screenplay like

a week after they signed me, he called me and asked me for a part in the movie.

Like, I know, talk about A, not knowing how this,

Boris Hamilton

like, you're a writer,

Pete Schwab

you have no power, I can't get, I don't even know the guy, but he was a really nice guy.

But this is a guy asking a young guy who just sold the script for a part and his brother is Rob Reiner Boris.

Boris Hamilton

Isn't that crazy?

Well, his name is Carl Reiner.

And his ex sister-in-law was Penny Marshall.

It's like, really?

Pete Schwab

Yeah,

Boris Hamilton

you're asking me.

Isn't

Pete Schwab

that crazy?

Boris Hamilton

It is.

And then, you know, his brother's best friend was Albert Brooks.

It's like, you know, you know, you could, you know, you know, everybody pinch wobbles your guy.

Conrad

He's my guy.

Pete Schwab

Let's talk about this really cool documentary.

You're part of Boris Hamilton as my guest, very funny guy and featured in the new documentary, The Don of Tiki.

I hadn't heard of this today until you sent me the link and it looks like one of the coolest movies I haven't seen yet.

Please

Boris Hamilton

tell

Pete Schwab

us about it.

Boris Hamilton

It's a lot of fun.

It's about the origin of Don the Beachcomber and how he

Turned his small cafe into a tropical bar and then fueled the tiki explosion that you know lasted from like the late 30s to Probably the mid 70s and has been brought back a couple of times since but it's it's a really interesting story music.

He's a really neat guy and The way they do it there's um There's archival footage.

There's animation.

There's claymation.

It's it's all

really cool done with original audio.

Um, my friends, Alex and Max did a really nice job on that.

Pete Schwab

That's

Boris Hamilton

released,

Pete Schwab

you know, yeah.

Sorry, go ahead.

Boris Hamilton

Oh, go to, you know, Don at tiki.com and check it out.

Don with two ends and, um, help.

It should be able available for streaming.

I think in 2026.

And yeah, please check it out.

Pete Schwab

Yeah, it looks cool.

I love the artwork too or the photo, I should say on the website.

He looks like a beat generation guy.

Like he could have been hanging out with Kerouac or, you know, Neil Cassidy or someone.

Boris Hamilton

He was always on top of everything but had his own cool style at the same time.

Like, you know, always.

Ready for adventure.

Pete Schwab

Yeah,

Boris Hamilton

whether or not he was going anywhere cool or not

Pete Schwab

No, I think this looks I love movies like this and I it's one of those movies That I know I'm gonna like just based on what I'm reading here And I had never thought about like I've been to Tiki bars my neighbor in LA who lived two doors down had one in his backyard And I thought oh, this is great, but it never occurred to me where it came from

Boris Hamilton

Yeah, and you know, of course, it's Hollywood comes from Hollywood like everything else

Pete Schwab

just

Boris Hamilton

okay fake paradise,

Pete Schwab

but

Boris Hamilton

It's cool.

Pete Schwab

So how did you get involved?

And what is your role in this?

Do you just talk about

Boris Hamilton

it

Pete Schwab

or?

Boris Hamilton

I just talk about it really quick.

I'm in it for probably six seconds.

OK.

But if you watch it, I clearly carry the movie.

It should be called The Dawn of Tiki and Boris.

Sidekick.

It was we were at Tiki Oasis, which is an annual gathering of Tiki people every summer in San Diego.

And I knew them.

So they asked me.

a question.

And then I threw out like 15 answers and they, they took one that worked.

That's how that

Pete Schwab

happened.

Oh, sweet.

I have to say just, uh, it's weird because Conrad and I often will complain about the cold.

And it's like we willingly live in Wisconsin and we complain about the cold.

Like that's insane behavior, but just saying Tiki bar over and over is making it worse.

Being,

Boris Hamilton

you know, yeah.

Well, I mean, how far are you from Milwaukee?

Pete Schwab

A couple hours.

Maybe

Boris Hamilton

not quite because they have some good one.

The foundation room in Milwaukee is nice.

Oh, there's some, there's some good ones.

Pete Schwab

You know, it's funny you say that because we have a question on the text line.

Lee from Depeer wants to, he wants us to ask Boris what his top three Tiki bars that he's visited.

Boris Hamilton

Oh, okay.

Well, I would say number one would be the Maikai in Fort Lauderdale.

Conrad

Okay.

Boris Hamilton

which is an amazing, I think it was 1958 that it was built and it's incredible.

It's massive, it's cool, it just got refurbished, it had some roof damage and they put a bunch of money into it and it's incredible.

TQT and East Hollywood or Los Feliz is also fantastic.

There's a direct lineage from Don the Beachcomber to TQT, so that makes it interesting.

And then Smuggler's Cove in San Francisco.

That would be for modern Tiki cocktails.

That would be my place to go.

Pete Schwab

Very nice.

So what makes a Tiki bar a good Tiki bar?

Like you just listed three of them.

You've obviously been to a few.

What is it about them that makes them good?

Boris Hamilton

Well, the decor, like, you know, it's got to be, it's got to be legitimate without being jokey.

Pete Schwab

Okay.

Boris Hamilton

You know, and without, without being

inappropriate.

You know, you want to feel like you're somewhere else, ideally.

Pete Schwab

Yeah.

Boris Hamilton

And then, um, the, you know, the music helps a lot.

You want to like, again, not feel like you're just anywhere else.

And then a good cocktail, like a good rum cocktail where you're like, you know, I needed this and I need another one and I'm going to have to stop right there.

Pete Schwab

That's great.

What was the name of the one in Milwaukee again?

Boris Hamilton

the foundation

Pete Schwab

room.

The foundation room.

Conrad, you ever been

Boris Hamilton

there?

Or it might be the foundation bar, but foundation in Milwaukee.

Pete Schwab

Very cool.

I'll check that out.

All right.

Well, good luck with the film.

Keep us posted when it comes out or when we can

Boris Hamilton

stream it.

Let us

Pete Schwab

know.

It looks really fantastic.

Cool.

So, okay.

So now we've got to get to the controversial part of the Boris Hamilton interview.

You talked about a holiday film that is beloved by Americans.

You have a problem with it.

Please tell us.

Boris Hamilton

National Ampune's Christmas Vacation.

It's not a good movie.

I saw it in the theater.

I saw the theaters when it came out.

Yeah.

And even then I was like, I guess that was okay.

We talked about the five or six laps that it has.

I mean, uh, obviously, uh, cousin Eddie with the, the septic tank situation or whatever.

Pete Schwab

Yeah.

Boris Hamilton

Yeah.

That's, that's hilarious.

And then, um, my, I think my favorite part is he's actually, he's talking to Clark and there's a little windmill.

on a table and he touches it and it breaks to me that's the best part of the movie you know and then they what they they they torment their neighbors who are just minding their own business all his in-laws are horrible people they're dreadful yeah they're a little harsh they kill a cat um you know like the whole the saucer slide scene it's

Oh, and now he's under a truck.

It's like, okay.

And then one of the things, you know, so I'm willing to accept the Griswolds and their universe or whatever, but then they have Brian Doyle Murray as his boss, but I'm like, wait, he was the guy running the cabins in the first vacation.

I can't do that.

I can't.

Pete Schwab

He was the guy that said, when they said that sounds pricey, he said, for the tents, he said, oh, that price includes scenery and wildlife

Boris Hamilton

fun.

Hey Boris,

Pete Schwab

let's pick it up right there.

We gotta do a really short break this time and we'll finish our discussion about Christmas vacation.

He doesn't like it, folks.

Let him hear it on the text line.

I don't totally disagree with him, but we'll get into that after this very short break.

It's Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Pete Schwab (Host)

I'm Pete Schwab, and this is Nightlight.

Great to have you with me, folks.

Lee from Depeer says, great movie.

We saw it in Milwaukee at the Oriental Theater in September.

He's got to be talking about Christmas vacation, right?

They probably did like a special screening.

Conrad (Producer)

No, I think it was a movie that Boris was talking about before Christmas vacation.

Pete Schwab (Host)

Oh, is it doing like, oh, the Oriental would have a film like that.

Is it like, is it out on a theatrical release?

Boris Hamilton (Guest)

Yeah, well they were doing like a road show with it.

Oh, yeah

Pete Schwab (Host)

Very cool.

Okay.

Boris Hamilton (Guest)

Yeah

Pete Schwab (Host)

Well, that's good.

There's a there's a good endorsement great movies.

That's fantastic.

All right, we were talking about Christmas vacation Boris and we both kind of agreed.

Here's why I like it.

I'll just play devil's advocate.

I like

the memories I have watching it with my cousins or my friends or whatever.

And we were still, it was 1989 when it came out.

I was still in the Chevy Chase fan club, so to speak.

And I like the house.

I like how they're getting ready for Christmas.

And it seems like, even though it was on the WB lot, I think, it was the same.

Yeah.

It was the same as the lethal weapon house, actually, I believe.

Okay, and so, you know, I guess for those reasons and it's familiar I like it, but I do agree with you.

It's not a great movie

Boris Hamilton (Guest)

It's not it's and you know, I maybe it's paid for or whatever because they can run at 17 times a day during the holidays But it just you know, it just gets meaner each time Yeah, and I mean some of the other jokes, you know, I don't know Clark Clark just isn't a good dad.

I would

I would put Vegas vacation ahead of Christmas vacation.

Wow.

Pete Schwab (Host)

Okay.

Boris Hamilton (Guest)

Yeah.

Pete Schwab (Host)

I don't even think I saw Vegas vacation.

I did love.

I love, love, love the original.

Boris Hamilton (Guest)

The original is fantastic.

Pete Schwab (Host)

Harold Ramis.

Come on.

Boris Hamilton (Guest)

Yep.

And then by the time you get to John Candy, you're like, I'm not tired

Pete Schwab (Host)

yet.

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All right.

Pete Schwab (Host)

Yeah.

Boris Hamilton (Guest)

Exactly.

European vacation I can do without.

Pete Schwab (Host)

Yeah.

Same.

Again, probably three laughs.

Then I would put Christmas.

All air-cital.

Right, yes.

And I would put Christmas vacation as my second.

But, you know, yeah, it's interesting.

And I love that you said that and I love that we're talking about this.

Are you watching Pluribus by any chance?

Boris Hamilton (Guest)

I'm not.

Pete Schwab (Host)

Okay.

Boris Hamilton (Guest)

I don't know what that is.

Pete Schwab (Host)

It's the new Vince Gilligan show, Better Call Saul, Breaking Bad.

Okay.

And people love Vince Gilligan.

I love Vince Gilligan and I loved this the first.

I don't want to say anything, but if you do watch it, come back on and we'll talk about it because.

Okay.

I need someone to vent to, but- Okay, I can do that.

But you came into, listen, this was very gutsy of you.

You didn't have to do this, but you came on and you ripped on a beloved American Christmas movie and I

Boris Hamilton (Guest)

played that.

It holds up about as well as Chairman J's did.

Pete Schwab (Host)

That's great.

Conrad is gonna get over this.

He's doing a little bit, but he's doing okay.

Boris Hamilton (Guest)

Conrad's favorite part.

Pete Schwab (Host)

Yeah, what's your favorite

Conrad (Producer)

part?

It is that part where he touches the the windmill and then Clark tries to fix it.

Right.

And he says

Pete Schwab (Host)

the dickie on it.

But that could be a short film.

Just a guy hitting the thing and that.

Boris Hamilton (Guest)

Oh, if it was if it was six minutes long, that would be the

Pete Schwab (Host)

best.

Great stuff, buddy.

It was great to talk to you and you should still do stand up.

You're very funny.

And I miss you, pal.

And let's do this again sometime.

Check out Pluribus and we'll discuss.

Boris Hamilton (Guest)

Thank you Pete, miss you too and have a great night.

Low 20s tonight, so be careful.

Pete Schwab (Host)

Oh, and I know he's rubbing in.

That's a parting shot.

All right, thank you, buddy.

Have a great night for us.

Thanks so much.

You too.

All right, so, you know, he's got a point.

I mean, I watch it and I'll say Home Alone's not a great Chris.

It's not a great movie either.

It's a good movie for what it is, but Home Alone kicks ass in the last like 20 minutes.

when it's him against the bandits.

Conrad (Producer)

Yeah, I'd say, I mean, I think there's some laughs before that too.

There's a few.

I mean, Christmas vacations, not my like, for Christmas movies, my favorite one.

Pete Schwab (Host)

Yeah.

Conrad (Producer)

Oh, look, I'm still gonna watch

Pete Schwab (Host)

it.

I still like,

Conrad (Producer)

there's some laughs.

It's

Pete Schwab (Host)

comfort, it's a comfort food movie.

Conrad (Producer)

I like to laugh, you know, for my movies.

So that for Christmas, you know.

Yeah.

Well, you don't have to apologize.

I'll say this Vegas vacation.

If you haven't seen it, it's not a great film.

I've heard it before.

There's some funny parts.

It's not a great film.

Right.

My favorite part is when they go to Eddie's casino.

Eddie's got a casino in Vegas?

Well, it's not his own, but it's the one he goes to.

Gotcha.

Pete Schwab (Host)

Yeah, I don't.

Conrad (Producer)

They got a buffet there?

Pete Schwab (Host)

I'm not.

I don't know.

Oh, maybe I will check it out.

I don't know.

John Murray on the text line in the 608 says, free wrap this.

And did you see the picture of the thing he said?

It's a crazy lamp.

You'd

Conrad (Producer)

never do that.

Actually, I put it, there we go.

You can see it on stream though.

That's what John wants us to try to wrap.

I mean, maybe if it's in a box first.

Pete Schwab (Host)

Or maybe

Conrad (Producer)

you

Pete Schwab (Host)

just don't buy that.

Conrad (Producer)

Yeah, that's true.

Maybe

Pete Schwab (Host)

get yourself a nice lamp.

John, think about it.

That's all I'm saying.

He says, not even the elves dare to try.

Plus, I guess their union would make it okay.

We read Lee's text.

Thank you, Lee.

Steady Eddie from the 608 says, Pete and Conrad, here's a Christmas gift that is hard to rapidly wrap, wrap, wrap with a little spelling play on the word wrap there.

Well done, Eddie.

He says, my name is Steady Eddie and I'm here to say I'm wrapping my Christmas rhyme as I watch the snowflakes play.

I'm just chilling and it's so, it's oh so fulfilling to hear the bells chime.

Ding dong, ding, wrangling, hey, hey, hey, it will soon be Christmas day.

Rapity rap rap, rap rap rap.

Now I'm rapping up this Christmas rhyme in double time.

My name is Steady Eddie and I'm here to say I love old St.

Nick on Christmas day.

Steady Eddie, that is gorgeous.

Thank you, sir.

Well done.

Boy, I love the care he put into that.

Conrad (Producer)

That's like

Pete Schwab (Host)

Santa's elves care when they put into the toy.

Toys when they make the toys.

I'm running, I'm at the Fred Willard part of, this is final to have according to Boris.

I'm running out of steam.

Thank you folks for being here tonight.

Thank you to Mike Gamal, Comedy City, Erica and Scott.

Great to have them here.

Thank you Boris Hamilton.

And thank you for all your texts and calls, folks.

Always so much more fun when you guys are part of the show.

We're gonna be back again tomorrow night, Christmas creeps ever closer.

Be safe out there, folks, and enjoy this holiday season.

On behalf of the lovable producer Conrad, I'm Pete Schwabba, saying goodnight,

Conrad (Producer)

Wisconsin.

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