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Farewell to a Radio Legend(Hour 1)
Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Tue Dec 9, 2025
Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.
This is Night Light with Pete Schwabba.
Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.
And now a guy whose house has an actual wiggle room, Pete Schwabba.
Hey, hey, welcome to Night Light, ladies and gentlemen.
Happy Tuesday everybody.
Great to have you with me in this as we kick things off here from beautiful downtown Green Bay on what is supposed to be kind of a weather night here in Wisconsin.
So we will keep our eyes on that.
We'll keep you posted.
We've got I know you guys are used to Conrad's five day forecast that we you know we share ad nauseam and sometimes he's right but he's I think we can tell people now you're basically guessing most of the time Conrad.
Yeah, you know, I just go off, you know, Apple, whatever, you know, the weather app on Apple, and I feel like they're guessing most
of the time too.
At least you're using that.
I thought you were like a gut instinct or something.
Yeah, you
know, I think it's gonna snow tonight, but yeah, that's just...
Well, we've got an actual weather guy on the show, and I'm so excited to have this guy on the show.
He does weather here for Civic Media.
Mace Michaels, he's gonna be here at 6'10".
He's
gonna be here Thursday.
I just asked you before the show.
Oh, sorry.
Mace is not coming on tonight Thursday Thursday.
He will be here.
So we're having mace on right after all the bad weather passes.
Yeah, he's gonna keep us informed.
I Just wrote like a bunch of questions for mace.
Sorry.
Hopefully Hopefully they will still be good on Thursday.
That's okay.
We
got we already have a pretty jam-packed show tonight I would have had to rush things with mace and I don't want to ever do that with mace Michaels because I love his work here at civic media and
We will enjoy talking with Mace Michael.
How's that for a teaser, Con?
We got Mace Michael's coming up on Thursday.
Yeah.
You know, I can fill in for him here on Nightlight until then,
right?
Well, I think you basically already just said everything you know about the weather, so I really... It's gonna snow.
You know, it's weird because I almost did the show from home tonight because we are supposed to get bad weather.
And it's supposed to start while I'm on the air and
I don't
know how I feel about that.
So we'll have to figure it out.
But we will find things out as we do and we'll let you guys know as well.
So hopefully if you're in your car right now, take it easy.
Take your time.
Get home safely.
It's just Tuesday.
You got a long way to go before the week really gets fun.
So we're hoping to help with that by having you here tonight so we could talk about movies and TV.
Some comedy some music we're gonna talk about some fun local stories and I'm very excited because at 535 my pal Jane Matinair host of it Matinair on air will be joining me To discuss her last week here at Civic Media before she retires Jane has had an absolutely
amazing career, spanning I think 45 plus years, and she's somehow only like 50 years old, which is really impressive.
But Jane is just an outstanding media person, broadcaster, whatever you want to call her, she's done news.
I think she used to spin tunes con years ago.
And for the last couple of years, or a couple of years plus, here at Civic Media, she's hosted Matt and Air on air.
So she's been on the show before.
She's done the popcorn pick.
We've just kind of talked casually to Jane, and we will do so again tonight in her last week here at Civic Media.
That'll be fun.
Mace Michaels will not be here, folks.
It's 6'10.
I totally misunderstood what you said.
Sorry about that, Conn.
Greg Vatney, though, will be here at 6'35.
Greg is the executive director of the Raw
museum in beautiful Manitowoc, Wisconsin.
Here's what I don't understand, Conrad, and maybe we can ask Greg this.
Manitowoc is a stunningly beautiful city.
Oh yeah.
Right on the lake, I've been there, I hosted their Sputnikfest costume contest a couple of years ago, or a year ago.
It was, I mean, I don't think I'd ever been there, like, driven around the town.
Beautiful, right on the lake.
Sadly, it gets lumped into that Steve Avery and the making of a murderer.
That's what people equate
men to walk
with.
Now, that'll go away, I think.
It's not like he was Dahmer, but it's still a town that got a little bit of fame for a bad reason because it is such a great town and so beautiful.
And Greg will talk a little bit about his adopted home city and what's going on at the Raw West.
They always have great things.
It is a gem of a museum.
right here in northeast Wisconsin.
And then Jenny Peterson from the Wisconsin Historical Society's Madison's History Maker Space.
She's going to tell us what is going on in this history maker space right off the Capitol over the holidays.
A really cool event.
We'll talk to Jenny about that at 735.
So there you go.
That's three guests, Conrad.
Those are three marquee guests as far as I'm concerned.
We're also going to give Greg a quiz.
Yes.
Does he know this or should we spring it on him when he comes
home?
I don't know.
He does not know it, so.
Sweet.
It's a great quiz.
I came up with it.
I love it.
And my friend Chat.
Chat GPT is my wife's best friend.
There's like, I feel like there's a third person in our marriage right now and not a hot one either.
Was that inappropriate to say?
No, Chat.
Chat's like intellectually stimulating.
Exactly.
Great personality.
All right, fair enough, but I hope you said you got your own answers, which I like I like that because I like
I'd go to chat to get the ball rolling,
you know, yeah chat can Chat can work as immune at times.
So that's good chat GPT our pal I don't really use chat GPT.
I will Google stuff I'm still in the archaic googling stuff age, but I think they use AI to Yeah, it's just a different brain.
I
mean any kind of I feel like search engine plays off AI now
Listen, I'll be honest.
I write these Hollywood beats every day and they take a while if I want to do them properly But if I just went to chat GP and said chat GP T write me a Hollywood beat or a Hollywood joke.
What would what would come back?
I think some robotic answers probably.
Yeah Something that wouldn't
sound like peach wabba.
What if they were funnier than what I was awful would that
be?
Yeah, I just like you did it one night didn't tell me I'm like those
are really funny
today
Either way, good stuff.
Great to have you here, folks.
It's a little, you know, we'll see what happens with the weather.
I know Madison, Milwaukee, Green Bay, we are all getting snow, although it keeps changing because Madison and Milwaukee, it looks like, are getting more rain as the night goes on, and maybe temperatures will warm up a little bit, so we'll see.
But that could still be treacherous to drive in.
Yeah, there's nothing more scary than, yeah, it's gonna be freezing rain tonight.
You're like,
oh, that's right.
That's the worst, yeah.
And I'm hoping, like...
There's been a few times where I've just gone over to the Hyatt here and splashing around in the pool.
There you go.
Remember the hot tub?
Oh God, that was awful.
Here's what I like about the Hyatt here in Green Bay.
It still has a steam room and you don't find steam rooms.
You don't really even find sonnets in many hotels, but the Hyatt still has a steam room and they had a hot tub.
So I go in the hot tub.
This is a recap.
Some of you may have heard this.
This is a couple of years ago.
We had horrible weather.
I was like, you know what?
I just want to go.
I want to soak at my core temperature up a little bit.
I go on the hot tub.
Within minutes, there are like 14, 12-year-old girls, because there's a gymnast convention in town.
And the chaperone, of course.
I left that hot tub so quick.
I just felt so creepy.
It was awful.
Well, you should feel creepy.
They joined you.
You'd enjoy them.
It
would have been weird.
Yeah.
That would have been weird.
What if I walked in with flippers?
And a snorkeling mask and a, that would be weird.
And you snorkeled in the hot tub?
Now snorkeling makes it even creepier.
I shouldn't have said, I just meant flip, just like a spaz, you know, nothing too weird.
But yeah, I still, you're still, you're not gonna, what do you, what would you have done?
You're leaving that hot tub,
right?
I'm jumping into the pool instead.
Cannonball.
Gonna do some cannonballs, yeah.
the backstroke.
That's pretty sweet.
All right.
So there we go.
You got guests.
What do we have?
Let's do the question and give people an opportunity to question or to text an answer before we get to text a win, which is coming up in just moments, folks.
But right now it's our night like question of the night.
Let's talk about the question.
Okay, question.
Question.
Question.
Pregunta.
Question.
Question.
Okay, I have a question.
Questions.
This question.
Domanda.
Question.
Question.
Questions.
What is your favorite Jack Nicholson movie?
Jack just turned 88 like a couple days ago and I
I don't think we've ever really talked much about Jack Nicholson on the show, so I'm curious what your favorite Jack Nicholson movie is.
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Can we ask ChatGBT for likes and follows?
What would happen there?
I think it would give us information on how to get more likes and follows.
I'll take that.
Maybe the ChatGBTX account can give us a follow.
You know what's funny?
You just said, chat GBT.
And that's what my wife calls it.
And she refuses to call it chat GPT.
And I just shake my head now.
I don't even try to crack her.
It's just a
tongue twister.
It must be easier because you just did the exact same thing she did.
But let us know what your favorite Jack Nicholson movie is, folks.
Mine is Chinatown without question.
I did like the last detail a lot.
Very good, younger Jack Nicholson movie, but I really love, love, love Chinatown, in my opinion, one of the greatest.
All-time films.
What do you say, Con?
You like Jack Nickerson?
I mean, I think you already guessed it.
Did I?
You know who's... What movie is he in with one of my favorite actors?
Kevin Hart or The Rock.
Let me... No.
No?
Oh, Sandler.
Oh, what is that, Rules of Engagement?
No.
What is that movie?
I was gonna make a joke, you know, but I was hoping you'd say it, and then I'd just be like, no, it's Batman.
Anger management.
It's actually Batman,
though.
Oh.
Wait, he is in Anger Management with Sandler, though, right?
No, he is,
but Batman is my favorite Jack Nicholson
movie.
He plays the Joker.
Interesting route to get there.
We needed a road man for that.
I wanted you to guess, and then I was going to
say, it was going to be
a, it didn't, it didn't matter.
I thought you were going to say, you wanted me to guess, I would say Anger Management, you would say,
good dog, gun it!
No, like your own man.
Well, that movie is hilarious, though.
Jack Nicholson in that movie is so funny.
Yeah.
He's phenomenal.
He's a great actor.
So let us know.
Folks, be part of the show.
It's always more fun when you guys precipitate, as John Candy once said.
We've got a couple texts that we got overnight from our pal Bud in Janesville.
Remember we met Bud the other night, Con?
Yes.
Did you meet Bud?
I did.
And his wife, that
was
fantastic.
And I got to be honest, I thought Bud was going to be older.
Oh.
Okay.
Yeah, he's a young guy.
He is.
He's a young strap and lad.
But we met Bud at the Godfather of Green Bay screening last week at the Atwood Music Hall.
Bud says, hey Pete, I know you're going to catch some flak regarding Moscata.
I knew I said it wrong.
Do you know how to say that Wisconsin town
name?
I'm pretty sure.
I thought I said it right.
Because I thought we've had this conversation before.
I was
trying to think we did have this conversation before.
Anyway, Bud says, but I still love your show, Bud from Jamesville.
Bud sounds like he took that a little personally.
And then a half hour later, Bud texted us between four and six a.m.
on the rebroadcast, and he said, hey, Pete, I'm glad I was not the only one who raised an eyebrow when Bob mentioned the money shot.
Love your show, Bud from JVIL.
Bud must have been running out of time because he just said, L-Y-S, Bud from JVIL.
He's abbreviating.
Must have been under the gun.
Bud, a third text from Bud, moments later.
Hey, Pete and Conrad, my favorite football movie features, Lucy Van Pelt and Charlie Brown Wink, L-Y-S-B-F-J.
He was really pressed for time on that third text.
Thank you, Bud.
Always great to hear from you, buddy, and it was great meeting you last week.
I had a weird thing happen last night.
Every once in a while, my wife will wake up screaming.
And
I think, oh great, she's dreaming about me again.
But I went in, this was so crazy last night, I went in to wake her up and I said, I'm like, Merit, Merit, wake up.
You know, she's like, what?
And I said, what were you dreaming about?
And she said, Timothy Chalamet.
And you know, I said screaming, not like a passionate screaming, kind of like Timothy Chalamet was being a real jerk to my wife.
So if I ever meet the guy, I'm gonna
give him a
knuckle sandwich.
You were pointing at something, Conn, right there.
You got a text.
Oh, yeah.
All right, folks, when we come back after this very short break, I'm gonna tell you what the keyword is for our text-to-win grown-up gift list, multi-state text-to-win contest here at Civic Media.
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Pete Schwabba is so great to have you here, folks.
So what, what more are you gonna do on a Tuesday?
Conrad, if you didn't have this gig, what are you doing on a Tuesday at 5.20?
Well,
I don't know if we're listening to Nightlight with Pete Schwabba then, because I wouldn't be here, you know, when we're producing the show.
No, but I'm saying, like, if you didn't have- No, I know
what you
mean.
Listen, you had to restore some faith after that last joke
you tried.
Yeah, I tried.
I don't
think that one
landed either, but-
I was hyper focused on text to win.
So let's get to that.
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That is not a bad daily.
I have to say so myself.
Wouldn't that be easier?
Like then a gift cart, like someone gives you cash?
That's great.
Would you report that to the government anyway?
Would you pay taxes on that 200 beans?
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Okay, so we got that.
All right, so I want to say, you know what I did earlier?
I'm going to see Frank Herman's Christmas show at the Meyer.
Awesome.
I think last time Frank was here, I talked about how I wasn't really in the mood for Christmas.
I wasn't feeling it, but we went and saw Frank's show at the Meyer.
I brought my wife, my two kids, and two of my girlfriends, and we had a blast at this Christmas show.
You're looking at me so seriously.
You're two extra girlfriends?
Yeah, you want one?
No, my wife is the world to me.
That was obviously a joke.
We went to the show.
It was so great.
And I left that theater.
The snow was falling in downtown Green Bay.
We had just seen us.
We had some laughs and Frank was singing in his great cast of the Let Me Be Frank productions.
It was such a great time.
So I'm excited to say we're going in again this year and I can't wait to go.
It's going to be fun.
I want to turn our attention to a story you saw in the Shepherd Express today.
Yes.
It's a fun story, a fun tale.
If
you would, you know, this just is so crazy.
It reminded me of a Simpsons episode, and I'll tell you which one after, but here's, it's a very, it's just a blurb, but it says on November 14th, a mom popped into a WA Wright Elementary School in Mount Juliet, Tennessee to deliver some paperwork, leaving her 10-year-old son in the car outside.
She returned to the parking lot to find the car gone, a TV station reported.
She assumed it had been stolen with her son inside.
A witness said they had seen the car driving recklessly out of the parking lot.
But when police checked the family home about a mile away, they found the car in the garage and the child in the house with the dad.
He explained that he had had an argument with his mom and decided to drive himself home.
Officers declined to charge the boy because he's too young to be held criminally responsible.
Put that kid in juvie, baby!
That's so funny.
How did he-
It's insane.
He must have driven something previously, you know, like one of those little go-karts or something.
How do you, you gotta have some knowledge, right?
I'm trying to think of like, what if he actually did park it in the garage and he just knew perfectly how to get in there and everything?
Like, I'm trying to think, it was probably the dad who saw that put it in the garage, but
if he just
was like, well, I need to get the garage and he need to close the garage door.
Don't tell your mother.
I parked the car for you.
Oh, it's a great story.
That is so funny.
Ten years old.
Yeah.
Can you reach the pedals at ten maybe?
I'm thinking maybe the kid played some video games or something that, you know, maybe he was driving or he had one of those little
tonk of trucks.
It's believable too because a witness said they saw the car drive away recklessly.
So that little punk could have really hurt someone.
You know, I'm just confused how he even knew how to put it in drive.
It's probably like a touch, maybe.
Yes, or a spin, the spin dial thing.
Would you push
in the brake to do that?
Correct.
You know how I know that?
Cause I had to wipe my car off yet again today, sixth time this season I've had to wipe my car off and I go in and I like to warm it up, but I don't get in to push the brake and hit the button.
So I have to lean down, push in the brake with my hand and then hit the button to start my car.
That's kind of a demoralizing.
Makes you feel really strange.
But great story.
Love that.
And I'm glad, you know, do you think there should have been some kind of punishment?
Folks, the phone lines are open.
If you have an opinion on this, I'd love to hear it because I think that's really weird.
Maybe he got grounded.
Yeah, like in-house, they handled it.
Don't worry
officer, we're gonna ground him.
No video games for 20 minutes.
And he'll go through withdrawal.
You can't
use the iPad today.
Yeah, and he'll learn a lesson.
Oh, that is fantastic.
We've got a stream comment here on our question of the night, which is your favorite, what is your favorite Jack Nicholson movie?
Our pal Dave on the stream says, a few good men, I forgot about that.
He says, followed by one flu over the cuckoo's nest, another classic.
I don't know what to make of Dave's next comment, Conrad.
Is
that a
movie?
No, that's how you say that town.
Oh, Dave, you expected me to remember that.
Moscow day.
Seven minutes ago.
Moscow day.
I don't like that.
I think it should be changed.
What do you think about that?
Make it easier for Radio House.
That's all I'm asking Muskaday.
Thank you, Dave.
Thanks for the tip.
Citizen Dave, appreciate it.
We've got some social media comments here too.
Brett in Brown Deer, his phone is in the 920, says, easy rider.
Oh yeah, very early Nicholson.
Terry in the 414 says, the shining.
Can't go wrong with that great Terry Roger from Stevens Point says my favorite Nicholson movie as Colonel Jessup and a few good men you can't handle the truth Great choice, Raj.
Can I call you Raj?
Ronnie and the 920 says five easy pieces was my favorite Nicholson movie I am due for a rewatch of that one.
I haven't seen that in ages Probably understand it better now too.
All right when we come back the legendary Jane Mattenair will be here folks.
So we are coming right back after the news
Got lots to get to on tonight's show, and I'm so glad you're here.
It's Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Welcome back.
This is Nightlight.
I am Pete Schwabba, and it is great to have you with me, folks.
Conrad, why does Google ask me to sign in right before I need Google?
Literally the
seconds are
ticking down.
Hey, can you sign in with that password you haven't used in a year?
Awful You should ask your friend chat GBT about that.
You know, I don't maybe it'll tell me to make the passwords easier to remember
All right, folks, we are moving on here.
It's gonna be really fun.
I'm very excited to have my next guest on the show.
She has spent over 40 years in the radio racket.
I think did a little TV too, did some news, maybe spun some tunes and hosted, I'm gonna tell you about what she did.
She did one of the coolest things ever and is the creative force behind a song.
We'll tell you about in just a minute, but she most recently has hosted her own show here on Civic Media for the last two plus years, I believe, with Greg Bach and her...
Our name is Jane Matanare, and the show is Matanare on Air, and Jane joins us now over the stream.
Hi,
Jane.
Gentlemen, good evening.
Thank you so much for having me.
How are
you?
Oh, it's our pleasure.
I'm glad you were able to.
It's a big week for you, so I appreciate you taking the time, and your house looks so festive, if that is
your house.
I brought in the tree just for you.
Did you just cut that down a few minutes ago?
I did, yes.
Yes, exactly.
On my way home from work.
I appreciate that.
You're like Diana Ross.
You could redo your living room for an interview.
Sure.
Cut down a
tree.
Me and Diana, we have so much in common, yes.
You do.
Well, you both have had long careers, Jane.
And how are you doing?
How do you feel this
week?
It's a little unsettling.
I won't lie.
You know, this has been my life for 44 plus years.
But at the same time, Pete, I am, I was talking to a friend about this and she asked me over the weekend how I was doing.
And I said, you know, I look back at things and where I started from and I'm satisfied.
Yeah.
I am satisfied.
And I, I think that's a gift.
I do.
I, I don't know that everybody gets to say that after their, you know, whatever they chose to do.
over the course of their lives that they can leave with some satisfaction.
And I think I'm satisfied.
Wow, that's, yeah, you're right.
That's about all you can ask for.
Before we continue with this line of questioning, do you have a favorite Jack Nicholson movie?
Oh, excellent question.
Thank you.
There are so many.
But I would, I love, something's gotta give that he did with Diane Keaton.
Yeah, great movie.
It's a wonderful film.
It really is.
It's a great, great movie.
That is a great choice.
All right, so let's get back.
I've got so much to ask you.
You've spent many years doing news.
I do.
And
I'm sure some of those, that could probably stay with you depending on the story, but can you share any highlights you had doing news, a good story, or something you broke that was really cool?
Well, and I'm really grateful TMJ took me on and I am not a journalist, Pete.
And I've always been very, tried to be very clear about that.
I have great respect for journalists, which I am not.
I don't have a degree in that, but I had the opportunity to help out a charity in slinger that did therapeutic horse ride lessons for adults and children with special needs.
And they were going to be closed because they had a bathroom that was not ADA compliant.
And so TMJ let me do a story about them and their attempts, and we helped raise them, raise enough money to get that bathroom put in.
And as what people were, but that's the other thing I found over the years, Pete, is.
how generous people in Wisconsin are truly.
I've been involved in different fundraisers of all different kinds over the years.
We did stuff the bus at the mix for decades and the day before Thanksgiving a food drive and people would come out in droves.
We would fill up three buses full of donated food and so I've always been
overwhelmed and humbled by the generosity of our listeners and people who've listened to me in different places all over the years.
But the other thing about doing news that I don't know I expected, and maybe that's why I'm not a journalist and I would not be a good journalist, because I found covering some things so very, very heavy.
Yeah.
And I found it very difficult.
The Uvaldi school shooting in particular,
I found very, very upsetting.
And I had a hard time shaking that off.
You had such a great, you mentioned TMJ and that's where I started kind of doing some guest hosting.
That's where I met you.
I'm sure you don't remember me.
I did like 20 shows.
But I thought, the second I heard you talk Jane, I just think she has the best voice.
And you kind of like when did and you must know you have a great voice for broadcasting.
When did you know that?
Like when did that
occur to you?
Oh, but Pete, I've been a ham for such a really long time.
It did.
It started very early.
We we were I was raised Catholic from a big Catholic family.
Same.
We were in mass when I was about four or five.
And it was a particular service.
where the priest goes through, let us kneel and everyone kneels, let us stand, everyone stands, let us sit, everyone sits.
And I said to my mother, when everything was nice and quiet, quite loudly, apparently, why doesn't he make up his mind?
And the whole congregation burst out laughing.
And it made it into the paper.
And they hung it on the fridge.
And I just remember,
Thinking well, all I did was ask what I thought was a perfectly reasonable question and I got a great reaction that I never expected this great laugh and I think that kind of set me on a path to seek that more of that I want more I want to make people laugh.
I trust your smart assery Was nullified in the confessional I hope Later, it's
I don't go anymore.
So that kind of alleviates that problem
You know, speaking of Catholicism, I'm the same way, 16 years, Jane, of Catholic school here.
And it had no effect.
No, I'm kidding.
But I remember making my first confession, a bunch of us were in line in like third or fourth grade at this Catholic
school
in Chicago.
And the priest came out, he came out to yell at us.
And I was next.
I'm like, wait a minute.
Now he knows what I'm gonna say to him, because this was back in the day where you went in and there was that cloth there and they couldn't see who you were, but
he just came
out and gave us the business and I'm like, now I gotta go in there.
He's gonna know that I killed a guy in third grade or something, you know.
Terrible.
Well, but they kind of couldn't see through the little, we had the little screen.
That's true.
You can't tell me you didn't know who was who.
Yeah,
you're
probably right.
Who are we kidding?
Um, so did you, and were you a DJ before you did news?
Like, did you work at music stations?
Oh, that was the beginning.
Absolutely.
Talk about that a little
please.
That's great.
My very first job was at KNUJ Radio in New Olm, Minnesota, which was a poker station in a very, uh, heavily agriculture community.
And I helped them launch their hip FM station KXLP.
And when we first went on the air, there were only two of us.
And I did mid days from 10 to two or three.
And then he did three to seven until we built out the staff.
And then I was there for about three years and moved to the Milwaukee area.
And when I started at the mix, I started at overnight, but.
I went into radio because I wanted to be the cool night rock chick and I am none of those things.
I am not cool.
I was never a rock chick.
It was like that's in your way started.
No, but it wasn't.
I know it didn't fit who I am.
And I was doing nights on the mix and the general manager, Jack Lee, God bless him.
apparently heard me and thought, she's pretty good.
We should move her.
And so they moved me some warnings.
And that's where I spent the rest of my career, pretty much.
It must be tough going through life, not being as cool as your voice.
That's what I'm hearing.
You
don't think you were cool.
I totally disagree.
Jane Matinar is my guest.
She is the host of Matinar on Air here on Civic Media for a few more days anyway.
She's had an amazing career.
We've got one texture, Tom and Hartford Jane, who says polka Jane.
Sure, that
works.
Yep, KNUJ played pokas.
And what I remember very specifically about that, my first job there was reading farm implement commercials live when there would be four syllable words that I had never seen before.
And you're just, so I learned how to say things really, really quickly when I didn't know what I was saying.
When you said you were spinning polka tunes and then you you went to you set up a hip That you're not talking about polka as a hip.
No, we were no no no we played contemporary It was probably hot hot AC would have been the category at that time, but it was don't forget this was the very early 80s and so it was lots of air supply and Little River Band and that kind of stuff
All those
bands that you are embarrassed to admit you love when their songs come on
There are still so I love peer Prairie League.
I still have old I have old 70s albums and I grew up on bread and all those really sappy love songs and And now I am no longer a valid person.
I don't listen to ballads.
They annoy me
You're older and jaded now you're cool
Well, Jaded, certainly.
Cool, questionable.
Jane, all right, so for the last couple years, you've been hosting your own show on civic media here.
What has that been like?
Had you done something like that previously, your own talk show where you get to talk about events that you deemed important or that you were interested in?
What's that been like?
It's been a wonderful experience, and I am so grateful to Civic Media because I came with Kristen Brigh.
Uh, I had met her when I was working at TMJ.
She had gotten the opportunity at, uh, with Civic Media and she said, you want to come with?
And I said, sure, let's go.
Nice.
And, uh, landed there.
And then when she decided she had another opportunity that she took and they offered me the opportunity and I was a little intimidated, but I think producing for Kristen for that first about year, uh, really helped and helped my confidence.
And it's just about being informed, and I think, and reading as much as humanly possible about the things that you're going to be talking about.
And admitting also that I don't know everything, and that's why we have experts on who can explain to me.
That's a great answer.
We have Sydney Politics on the stream says, sorry if I missed it already, but what's happening with the matinee show after she retires?
Well, Greg is gonna, your co-host Greg will take over for a while, right?
That's the
plan.
How's
it been working with Greg?
Do you have to
keep in line?
It's been so wonderful.
No, it's been so wonderful.
We have had so many laughs.
and in some very difficult moments.
And there was a point about two months after the election, the presidential election, and I found a story, I think it was in the cap times, about they had a school naming contest in the Madison area to rename a school.
And they left it up to the public.
And so you know how it went.
And so the choices were schooly McSchoolers in and and schooly this and the other one was big Chungus.
And.
And Greg and I were talking about this off the air and we just had one of those laughing fits, you know, when you just it's so ludicrous and so silly.
And we laughed like that, like we were seven years old for about 10 minutes.
those are the moments I am going to miss and cherish and remember and just to see how much he has grown in his role and and now that he's going to be stepping in and it's very exciting I'm so proud of him I'm so happy it's been wonderful working for Calvin I've loved
Everybody at Civic Media.
All right.
Jane McNair is here.
We'll have her for a few more minutes.
We're going to do a very short break.
Tom also says, Jane, you were both wonderful and we've got a little more text love.
I'll read after the break.
Jane McNair is here.
We are coming right back.
It's Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Welcome
back.
So great to have you with me on this Tuesday night as we prepare for weather.
It's looming.
That's a great feeling.
I hope you're inside and safe and warm, everybody, and talking about the things we love to talk about in life.
We're doing it here tonight, movies, comedy, TV, and I'm gonna give you the keyword again in our multi-state adult, no, not adult, Conrad, what is it?
Grown-up gift list.
Yes.
Not adult, that could be construed the wrong way.
So it's our grown-up gift list in our multi-state text-to-win contest.
We love our text-to-win contest.
Once again, this hour's keyword, you have to use the app to text this in, folks, is holiday.
H-O-L-I-D-A-Y, holiday.
Good luck, everybody.
Our question of the night is what is your favorite Jack Nicholson movie?
Jack just turned 88, two or three days ago.
And more importantly, we're talking with our good friend and the host of Matt and Air on Air for the last couple of years here at Civic Media.
She is hanging it up this week.
So it's great that she took some time here to spend a few minutes with us on Nightlight, Miss Jane Matt and Air.
It's so nice to be here.
Thank you so much, people.
It's great, Jane.
Thank you.
It's been fun just listening to you and learning from you for the last couple of years.
So thank you for that.
But you and I spoke recently on your show.
Here's one of my memories I have of Jane McNair.
And you said, look for something in the movie, Green and Gold, that doesn't make sense.
So I watched that movie like a hawk.
And I'm like going, I'm like, what?
Actively where is it performatively watching this movie and I was I came up empty, but you had an issue with the ladder Yes, it was
a it was a plot point and they needed they needed an accident to happen in order to move the plot along right so they had a ladder out in fall and Then it was Christmas time because they were Christmas lights on the eaves
And the ladder was still up.
And I said, no, self-respecting Wisconsinite would put would leave the ladder up and just put lights over it.
It would never happen.
It would never happen.
And it just aided me.
It's like anyone who lives here.
No, it's no.
That's so funny.
Jim on the stream says, Jane's voice reminds me very much of Lauren Bacall, a legend in film.
Have you heard that before, Jane?
I'd be willing to
bet.
I haven't.
Thank you.
What a wonderful compliment.
Thank
you so much.
That's fantastic.
So what are you going to do now, Jane?
You're going to have all this time on your hands.
Do you collect stamps or beer cans?
Are you
going to watch your color television?
Stamps, yes.
Yeah, it's definitely going to be stamps.
No, my husband and I are trying to get rid of things.
We've been in our house for 24 years.
And now that we're going anywhere, but you know, you just accumulate so much stuff.
Yeah,
we have so much stuff.
So I square Monday.
I'm going to be taking my car to the shop because it started making a new noise.
My 13 year old Subaru.
I'm not feeling good about this.
Oh, boy.
Yeah.
So.
But then I'm going to start going through things and trying to get rid of things.
I am trying to be as responsible as possible with goodwill and upcycling and as much of that as humanly possible to keep it out of landfills.
Do you have that Catholic thing where you go, is God trying to tell me something because I'm hanging it up this week and now my car goes on the fritz?
Is this God's way of getting back at me or telling me I should stay in radio chain?
Oh, no, I never thought that at all until you planted that seed in my head.
Jane,
we
have, this has been so fun.
I've loved having you on the show.
I hope you'll still come back sometime, even though you're retired.
You are going to be, you know, you're going to need some things to do.
Oh, well, absolutely.
Hey, they're letting me keep the laptop and the microphone.
So I'm always available.
And by the way, I have all your email addresses, so don't think you're getting rid of me.
Sweet.
You didn't just hide from me.
No.
All right, before we let you go, I have one thing.
A lot of people might not know this about you.
And The Great Mike Clemens is the one who told us about this, but you are also a songwriter.
I made a film called The Godfather of Green Bay.
We screened it last week in Madison.
I feature the Macarena throughout the film as this drug guy's main song that he loves.
I had no idea until recently that you wrote a version of that song with Mike Clemens.
Do you care to elaborate?
Oh, absolutely.
Our program director at the time, Brian Kelly, said, Macarena is a huge global hit.
It's waiting for a parody.
I want you guys to do this.
And so Mike and then my then partner Dan Weber and I all kind of took turns and wrote lyrics for it.
And then Ryan and I went down to Chicago and recorded it.
And it became a crazy.
crazy sensation.
We sold cassettes because that's how long ago.
We sold cassettes for five bucks and we raised, I believe it was $92,000 for the Child Abuse Prevention Fund.
And we had a worldwide map up in the studio and we would put pins in because we were hearing from all over the world.
We mailed cassettes everywhere.
All right, we have to hear just a quick snippet of that before we let Jane go.
Conrad, if you please.
That is so great.
And
if you thought the original Macarena got stuck in your head.
Oh, it's bad.
Yeah, it's a bad earworm.
You won't, you won't.
You won't thank me.
One little tidbit about the Pacarena.
The captain of the space shuttle at that time was from Wisconsin.
And I actually have footage of NASA playing the Pacarena for him as their wake-up call and him doing a dance as he's floating.
It's so cool.
What a cool thing.
Hopefully, maybe a few more songs.
You've got the time now, Jane, to check it
out.
That's true.
Before we let you go.
I'll use
some blues.
Oh, you got the voice for it.
John Murray in the 608 says, enjoy your retirement.
You've earned it and come back as a guest often, as your family will allow.
Be well, Jane.
And my sentiments exactly.
Jane, thank you so much.
Enjoy your retirement.
And please don't be a stranger.
I will not.
And thank you so very much.
Pete Conrad, you guys take care.
Take care, everybody.
All right, that's Jane McNair.
You can still hear her this week.
She's sticking around, and Greg Bach, her partner in crime, will be sticking around as well.
So that's good.
Thank you to Jane McNair.
When we come back, we've got, oh man, Greg Vadney is going to be here talking about Manitowoc.
We got a quiz for Greg, Wisconsin Historical Society stuff in the third hour, great holiday events, a lot coming.
Question of the night, it's all happening here at night.
Great to have you with me.
It's Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.
The clouds in the
Broadcasting live statewide from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.
This is Night Light with Pete Schwabba, your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.
And now a guy who washes his hands even after using a towel, Pete Schwabba.
Welcome
back to Night Light, folks.
Hope you're having a great night.
Hope you got home safely.
If you're still on your way, be careful out there.
We've got weather coming your way, coming our way.
We are broadcasting from downtown Green Bay.
It's supposed to start, of course, right during my drive home.
But it's going to be bad in Madison, Milwaukee, here in Northeast Wisconsin.
There's a lot of stuff on the way, so be careful out there.
That was a great hour number one.
Would you say so?
I would say so.
You know what?
That
was fun.
I don't even know if we can top it.
Maybe we should just put a rerun on and get out of here.
Not just saying that to
beat the weather.
It was fun.
We talked to Jane McNair, who is the host of McNair on air here on Civic Media.
She is retiring after over 40 years in broadcasting.
What a career, like spin and tunes, polka, rock, overnights, morning, did news.
And then now hosting her own show for the last couple of years.
That's quite a career.
So it was fun to talk to Jane.
But you know, it was funny because when that movie, Green and Gold came out and we had the director on the show.
Yeah.
Jane saw it before I did.
And she said, I want you to notice something in it.
And then we'll talk about it.
She had me on her show and I'm watching this movie looking for something that would jump out at me about it.
That bugged Jane and I'm kind of mad that she did that because I really didn't the whole movie I'm just looking for that something about the Packers Yeah, it was it was really strange and then when I went on there I didn't even relate to it at all They left a ladder out.
No, Wisconsin.
I would ever leave a ladder out.
I would
Well,
do you want a ladder?
No, I actually don't But I don't think my brother would leave a ladder.
He's that kind of guy
When you're looking in someone's second floor, always take your ladder with you when you go home.
That's the lesson.
You know, maybe I'll get a ladder just so I don't leave it outside.
Just prove
Jane's
point.
I think that's the least we could do because she's retiring.
So we did that.
We talked about this great story.
about a 10-year-old kid.
Do I still have that or did I throw that away?
That was such a great story.
Conrad found this on the Shepherd Express and I'm just going to read it again because it's so funny.
November 14th, a mom popped into an elementary school in Tennessee to deliver some paperwork leaving her 10-year-old son in the car outside.
She returned to the parking lot to find the car gone.
a TV station reported, and assumed it had been stolen with her son inside.
A witness said they had seen the car driving recklessly out of the parking lot, but when police checked the family home about a mile away, they found the car in the garage with the kid in the house with his dad.
He explained that he had an argument with his mom and decided to drive himself home.
Officers declined to press charges because he's too young and could not be held criminally responsible.
You know,
You probably want to keep a file on that kid though.
I've been mad at my mom even when I was a kid.
I would never have the guts To drive an automobile a mile
at that age.
Oh, definitely.
That's
a weird kind of kid
I can't even read I couldn't reach the pedals.
Yeah, I didn't know it to be a ten at two I'd be scared.
I'd hurt someone too like I'm not I got this who's what ten-year-old?
That's a confident ten-year-old, you know little strange
I mean, keep an eye on that kid.
Maybe he's just maybe he likes to drive.
Maybe you'll see him at NASCAR one day.
Yeah, and then I'll have a great story.
I do think it was interesting when I, you know, I do a lot of voice text.
You've seen some really crazy messages from me.
Yeah, definitely.
I was writing Jane's questions today and it said, is my pleasure to welcome Jane Matt in here.
I said Matt and air and, you know, voice text isn't going
to get
Matt and air.
So Jane Matt in here.
And I got one for Greg Vadney too.
I'm going to share one, Greg's here, because that made no sense either.
You know, I think, you know, there's sometimes like today, I got a message from you in it.
I think you didn't realize that it already had the whole message there, but it was, it was a duplicate.
Oh
yeah.
That happens sometimes when I hit send, the whole message re, like it sends two messages.
I'm like, wow.
He really wants to give his message across.
Did you get back to me?
No, probably not.
you didn't get back to me twice to even the score.
All right, let's remind our awesome listeners what our question of the night here is the night like question of the night once again, folks.
Let's talk about the question.
Okay, question.
Question.
Question.
Pregunta.
Question.
Question.
Okay, I have a question.
Questions.
This question.
Domanda.
Question.
Question.
Here we go.
What is your favorite Jack Nicholson movie?
One of the legend one of the true legends of Hollywood maybe in the conversation is one of the greatest actors ever top 10 I don't know.
Where do you rank them?
You're welcome to share that as well, but what is your favorite Jack Nicholson movie?
He just turned 88 like two or three days ago and I've been meaning to talk about Jack Nicholson on the show we have not so Monica in the 608 says here's Johnny the shining have you seen that?
You know actually I have never well all right, so I've seen it in a way of just a little bit
clips
clips But I saw it in ready player one because a big part of that movie and the book is that they go through the shining
Wait,
what do
you mean?
So the movie ready player one is like all like VR like it's like a video game movie kind of okay, and one part of it to get to this like Easter egg They have to go through the shining
It's like a video game.
It's
like an actual Paranormal shining episode.
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
It was crazy It was I mean that if you haven't seen ready player one, that's a phenomenal movie.
I have
not seen it.
When is that when did that come out?
20 probably you're 20 like 15 around there 2016.
Okay,
you know, it's funny.
I would
make a joke like, what is that?
I watch a guy play video games, but it wouldn't even be funny because that's what people do.
People watch other people play video games.
I know that's not the
movie.
Well, it's not like a stream, like, you know, it's like, it follows a fantastic story.
Yeah.
All right.
Cool.
Good to know.
Then we've got Matt in Middleton.
He says, the shining and good as good as it gets are tied for me.
Both are two sides of Jack.
Oh, that's a great text.
Actually, that's very true.
Thank you.
Thank you, Matt.
Roger from Steven's Point.
Also, Musk O'Day.
Musk O'Day.
Musk O'Day?
Musk O'Day.
All right, don't let me forget that.
And we're definitely gonna do it
again.
You take a memo.
Well, we don't hear from the, if we heard from Musk O'Day every day, we would know
it,
right?
Yeah.
Jim from Appleton says, my favorite Jack Nicholson movie is The Witches of Eastwick with five easy pieces as a close second.
Five easy pieces is on my list for a rewatch.
Thank you, Jim.
Chris in the 773 says, one flew over the cuckoo's nest.
I like his old school movies.
Yeah, no argument there, Chris.
Great stuff.
Jack from the 4014 says, best Nicholson movie.
Don't forget the witches of Eastwick.
It may not be his best performance, but he was so much fun in it.
Very well put.
Those are all great texts.
Are we caught up on the stream, Con?
Oh, we've got Daniel.
I love this username, Daniel Barris, no, DanielBarrySportsHighlights.
Even the people informed with highlights.
That's what he does.
He's on YouTube.
Yeah, it's a YouTube channel.
Check him out, yeah.
He says, happy Tuesday, everyone.
Happy Tuesday to you, Daniel.
Thanks for being with us tonight.
And then our pal Craig Kennett says, without a second thought, one flew over the cuckoo's nest.
I think that's our front runner so far.
I said Chinatown.
I think I'm the only one that said Chinatown.
So do you have any thoughts?
All right, now we're one day removed.
And it's so funny that like, you know, the Packers beat the Bears.
But people in the national media, like Colin Cowherd was like, this is a win for the Bears, because they apparently look legit.
That's how bad the Bears franchise is, is when you come close.
or it's a one possession game, that's a win for you.
And that didn't make me feel that good as a bear fan.
Now, they have been fun to watch this year, like no longer gone are the days where I had to pirate the bears game and the
porn ads would come
up and I go, well, this is better.
I'm going to watch these.
So that's a good thing.
But
well, you
know,
I mean, it was a great game.
That's that's the type of rivalry I want like renewed because it was so fun to watch.
I mean, I was stressed out.
I'm sure you were stressed out on the bear side too.
It was just, it was a lot of fun to watch.
I mean,
defense has played pretty well and just watching the quarterback play was pretty cool too.
But I mean, that run game for the Bears is, it's
legit.
It's totally legit.
And to the point Conrad where I was like that last, I think the Bears had the ball with like 330 left.
And it was obvious they didn't want the Packers to get the ball back.
Yeah.
But I don't, for a guy as smart as Ben Johnson was, and I'm glad he's our coach,
I just did what you did, our coach.
I don't think he managed the time really well.
I don't know if Caleb would have thrown that pass.
He could have, I don't know, it's a weird thing, but
whatever.
I mean, I see his point of not letting him get the Packers.
I mean, anytime you don't want the Packers to have the ball in the last possession.
Especially when you don't have a pass rush.
Yeah.
And you have injured, yeah, absolutely.
And I do think that if they do score there, they would have won for two.
I do
too.
And I mean, the next game is going to be
I think even better too.
It should be.
I think, you know, and I should be happy.
It's still, I want to beat the Packers, even though I live here and
I
don't hate the Packers.
I just, I still, it's like, it's, come on, but it's, it's year one.
I'm trying to get to,
you know, it's a big improvement.
This is the thing you kind of sell with the Lions too, is that the first year they, with the new head coach, it was like, they showed signs of greatness, but also weaknesses.
And I mean, look at the Lions now.
Sage Weil, our fearless leader here at Civic Media on the text line says a few good men or one flu over the cuckoo's nest.
That is definitely our winner tonight.
So far, we've got a ways to go, but one flu over the cuckoo's nest is in the lead.
A few good men is the one I probably would have given my honorable mention to as well.
I kind of forgot about it.
But thank you, Sage.
Good to know you're listening and thanks for the text.
Yeah, I agree.
Let me ask you this, because I wanted to get to this last night and we asked Mike Clemens a little bit.
If you're Matt LaFleur and you're going across to shake Ben Johnson's hand after Ben Johnson said that.
And I know I'm sure Matt LaFleur is like, well, he's just trying to get the fans riled up.
I'm sure he respects me, but he called him out over all the other coaches.
I don't know if I'm shaking his hand either.
I'm doing the same thing as Matt LaFleur, just giving him a very good game.
All right, see you.
Do you remember this was very funny?
The Lions played.
Harbaugh's team.
He was probably coaching San Francisco at the time and when they were passing on the field to shake hands Harbaugh shook his hand and put his hand on the guy's shoulder.
Jim Schwartz was the Lions coach shook Schwartz's hand and kind of put his hand on the guy's shoulder and kind of pushed him away and ran and Schwartz starts running and then realized and he goes he gets a mad face and he turns around and goes back to Harbaugh
It was so beautiful.
And it was vintage Jim Harbaugh just trying to get under someone's skin.
It was so great.
Well, speaking of hardball, the last night's game, I don't know if you watched that.
I did not.
Jalen works had five turnovers.
That's what I hear.
That's rough.
I had so much to do to get caught up on the show after last weekend.
I was like, it was like 1130 when I finished working.
I'm like, oh, I forgot about the game.
But
and that was a good one.
Two good teams.
That's rare.
I mean, it was just a turnover like battle.
Yeah.
because Justin Herbert had an interception and a fumble.
So overall, it was like, I think eight complete turnovers with both teams.
Oh, that's
terrible football.
Hey, coming up in just a few minutes, folks.
Greg Vadney will be here at 635 to tell us about a really cool event happening at the Raw West Museum in Manitowoc.
Greg will be here in studio.
We love when Greg is here.
And we've got a Manitowoc quiz for Greg,
one of our
nightlife quizzes that we love giving.
So that's coming up at 635, then Jenny Peterson from Madison's History Maker Space, a really cool event happening on the Capitol Square this holiday season.
We'll be here in hour number three or act three, as we like to call it.
All that is coming up very shortly.
more of your texts when we come back.
And after this very short break, I'm going to tell you about a statue that is being put up in Detroit that I just don't get.
It's based on a movie character, and I just think it's stupid.
But we'll have a discussion.
As you know, phone lines are open.
You can weigh in too.
I'll tell you all about that coming up next.
It's Night Light with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio
Network.
Nightlight with Pete Schwabba.
Greg Vadney, ladies and gentlemen, is if we had a green room here at WGBW in downtown Green Bay, Greg would be in there having a cocktail right now.
If we had a green room and this was the 60s and Dean Martin was here, Greg would be hanging out.
Having a cocktail waiting to come on to the show, but he will be here shortly He is the executive director of the raw West Museum in Manitowoc beautiful Manitowoc.
We're gonna give Greg a quiz He's gonna tell us about a really cool Christmas event coming up.
That's in just a few minutes I saw this and did you Google that thing?
I asked you to look at con that Robocop?
You should go into more details first and just
Well, what do you mean?
What am I missing?
Well, it's just kind of I guess
It's cool in some aspect, but like why Robocop?
Of all, like Detroit has so many great people from Detroit, even movies that were shot there.
They're erecting a Robocop statue similar to the one of Rocky Balboa in Philadelphia.
And I'm OK with like movie characters being erected in cities that they're known, they're synonymous with.
But Bill Burr has a great joke about.
the Rocky statue.
He's like, he quates it to racism.
He says, how racist are you?
You have an actual champion in Joe Frazier from Philadelphia, but they put up a fictional character of Rocky.
It's a joke.
It's funny.
I don't have a problem with the Rocky statue.
Rocky embodies a spirit and underdog.
I like that Robocop.
Did you see this statue though?
It looks like
It looks like you're pulling into a police state because he's got the Robocop on and the gun.
It's awful Especially for this day and age.
He looks like the the king of the ice Cartel or something, you
know, I when I see statues I am like, yeah, that's cool But I feel like they never actually look like what they're supposed to look like.
Yeah,
like have you seen the Dwayne Wade statue?
And where would that be in Milwaukee?
I'm knowing Miami.
Oh, no, it is
It's nothing like him.
No, it's terrible That's kind of true of the Jordan statue in Chicago, too The only it looks like Jordan with the pose because he's extended and dunking.
Yeah,
but it's the face doesn't really I don't
know.
I think they should go back to the workshop on some of these statues
Listen, I I just think it's weird you've got Beverly Hills cop started in Detroit put an Eddie Murphy statue up
or John Cusack from Gross Point Blank, or Motown.
They probably already have a lot of Motown stuff there, but I just think Robocop.
It's so creepy.
It looks like you're pulling into a police state.
It's terrible.
And Detroit is on the upswing.
Things are looking up there.
It's supposed to be great.
I don't know.
I just thought it was strange.
What would your statue be in Green Bay if you could not pick a packer?
Oh, that's
Tony Chaloupe?
Yeah, yeah, I guess.
I mean, it's just, you know, one of the quarterbacks.
I'm sorry, I can't.
Those are Packers
kind of.
I'm sorry.
It's
like, unless you met a quarterback of like St.
Norbert's, that would work.
All right.
Our question of the night, folks, is what is your favorite Jack Nicholson movie?
Jack Nicholson just turned 88.
I don't think he's working anymore.
But he has just turned 88.
He's had a monstrous career and he is a really good actor.
He's a very much a caricature and every bad stand-up comic had their Jack Nicholson impression.
If they did impressions, that was like their go-to, the first one.
Most of them were pretty bad.
But he turned 88, so that's kind of cool.
Conrad, did you know the Winter Olympics are right around the corner?
I actually didn't, but now I'm excited.
I love watching the snowboarding.
Okay.
It's so fun to, you know, I mean, when I, when I was growing up, I always watched Sean White and that's just
the flying tomato.
Just doing those tricks is like I used to snowboard and I was so unathletic on it.
I broke my collarbone in half.
Really?
Were you, you're supposed to put your feet on the snowboard though, right?
Well,
all right.
So let's just say this.
I, I was trying to impress someone and I went over the smallest little roller
and like a
little jump.
And I tried doing a 316 and I got 90 degrees.
Oh,
that's not even.
Clip my board.
And then, you know, instead of putting my head first, like when I was falling pretty fast, I put my shoulder first and, well, let's just say my bone snapped in half.
Were you trying to impress a girl?
You look like a total spaz.
That's the best though.
I mean, I'm sorry you were injured but it's funny when like one of your friends is trying to press someone Yeah, I remember friend of mine during a intramurals We were playing intramural hockey and this girl he liked walked into the gym He tried to put the chairs in it quick But his arm got caught and he's flailing around because he knows she's coming and he just looked like the biggest spaz ever But you actually had an injury.
Yeah, well,
so I like after I did that I bomb the hill I went straight down it
And I didn't know anything was wrong adrenaline was just pumping, you know, obviously I felt something but I was like I just a little bruise and I try to unhook my bindings and I like my arm was just limp just like I couldn't move it.
I'm like, um That's when the adrenaline stopped and I was like, okay.
That's
that's pain This is bad too because I brought this up because it seems like the winter Olympics are always right around the corner Did they do the Olympics every year for winter sports?
It seems like
It's way more often than four years.
I think it's every, like, four.
Every four.
That's what it's supposed to be.
I always thought it was.
Well, I think it's... I really like the Winter Olympics, actually.
I think it's fun to watch.
You know what's fun to watch?
Two dudes on the luge.
On the luge laying on each other.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Go for it, guys.
I mean, look how fast they're going now.
That's cool.
That's insane.
Yeah.
It's, you know, it's like spooning.
And sledding.
It's like a crazy sport.
You know, you practice.
All right.
You ready to spoon?
Let's just spoon here on the floor first.
And then we'll try it on illusions.
The other works out.
Is that promo material?
I think so.
All right.
We've got the text to read.
I'm going to tell.
Oh, I wanted to get into stranger things too, but we'll do that.
We'll do that soon.
Greg Vadney is here coming up next, folks.
After the news, we're going to talk about a really cool event happening in Manitowoc.
And it's right around the corner.
Just like the Winter Olympics, and we're gonna give Greg a man to walk quiz.
We'll see how he does.
It's Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio
Network.
you
Just taking my time here.
Hey, welcome back.
It's Nightlight with Pete Schwabba.
Conrad Krieger working the board tonight, producing the show.
You are due for a haircut, aren't you?
It's been like two
months.
Is that a weird
thing to say?
It's been a while.
Yeah, it has.
And I'm locked in because Conrad gets a haircut, religiously, every what?
Two months?
Two months.
Okay.
Does that how it works when you have hair?
Oh, that was not a very nice thing for me to bring up, Greg.
I swear it had nothing.
I was not
trying.
No, that's fine.
I deal with it, you know?
That's why I grow the beard.
The beard is sweet.
I just want hair to grow in some direction.
Greg Gavadny is here, folks.
That is Greg's voice.
He is joining us in the studio, as he does periodically here at Nightlight.
We love when Greg drops by and spends some time with us.
You, okay, so, Greg, you're the executive director of the Raw West Museum in Manitowoc.
Yes, sir.
You also happen to be...
a very big fan of the Winter Olympics, which we were just talking about before the break.
I am my
older brother, Brian.
Brian Vadney, shout out.
And I loved the Olympics growing up because obviously we all love the patriotism of it when you're
growing
up in kind of like Cold War, right?
But also the obscure sports.
Matt, I have come to the realization in my older age, there's nothing I love better than watching somebody who's really good at...
Oh, I
totally agree.
Do
whatever they're really good at.
Absolutely.
No
matter what, whether it's cooking or, you know, rope climbing.
Reading.
You ever
watch a guy read?
Yeah.
That's fun.
Man, look at him go.
Turning pages.
Lips moving, turning pages.
But also, man, watching Bobsledders go or even like curling, stuff like that.
I can watch that forever and then like learning these new sports.
So I'm totally in.
So like I can remember trying to explain to friends that there was something called Nordic combined and they'd be like, yeah, it's where you like cross country ski and then you shoot.
I'd be like, no, that's biathlon.
Nordic combined is a competition that is in the Olympics where one person does cross country skiing and then the next day they ski jump.
And then they have like a combined score, the time and the length.
So that's an Olympic sport.
Where you have to like,
like, there's no downhill, no slalom.
You have to combine cross country skiing with ski jumping.
Like, how
can you not love that?
Some fit is gonna break his legs.
I want to watch it.
Listen, I like the Olympics.
I like...
competition.
It seems like the Winter Olympics are always, every time I turn around, it's the Winter Olympics.
It's like, let's take a breath.
I don't know.
I think it's every four years.
You're probably right.
They
started staggering at what, 94, where the Winter Olympics and the Summer Olympics are at a different time.
But you told me growing up in New York, a story when you first got here.
Yeah, I
wanted to talk about my own Nordic combined.
So growing up, I really didn't ski that much.
My family didn't ski, but a lot of my friends skied.
We had a ski club at school and all that because I grew up in upstate New York.
And one of my very good friends, I'm shouting out names all night tonight.
My
doubt, his family had a place in Lake Placid where they had the Olympics.
So when we were in our twenties, a bunch of us went up to hang out for a weekend in Lake Placid.
And I had skied a few times, but I was like, you know what, I'm going to try snowboarding.
So in the morning, I went to like try, rented a snowboard and started to like test it out on the beginner hill and all that.
And I'm with like a bunch of like eight year olds.
And
the rest of my friends are
skiing cause they know what they're doing.
So we have lunch together.
Maybe, you know, have a few drinks and my buddies are all like, well, why don't you come with us?
You've kind of gotten the hang of this.
You can hop on the gondola at white face, which is the Olympic mountain where they had the Olympic down.
You know, we're going to go up to the double black diamond, but you're, you can stop off at intermediate.
And I was like, all right, sounds good.
So we hop on the gondola, gondola doors close.
They all start laugh.
And I don't get it for a second or two.
And they're like, there's no like stop on the gondola.
It's going to the top of the mountain.
There's only one way.
So I remember like, I was like, like, um, a dog.
rubbing its butt on the floor, like trying to find a way to not go down the black diamond, but there's only one way down, you know?
So I start trying to go as slowly as possible, but it's a series and anybody who's learned how to ski or snowboard knows this.
It's a series of like bombing down way too fast for like 150 yards
and like
cleaning out of
control.
And like my buddies thought it was funny for like maybe two minutes.
And then they were like, somebody's gonna get hurt.
And I remember crashing into a little kid.
And I mean, I like caught him, but his parents were not happy.
And I was like, I'm sorry, I am completely helpless.
I am in an uncontrolled fall down a mountain right now.
And I'm sorry your child got
away.
So
that's my buddies.
I'm still
good friends with them.
But did they know how to ski?
Like could they handle that?
They were all black
diamond skiers.
They
were just fine.
And they were
just messing
with you.
And they thought it was hilarious until they were like, wait, we might have killed our friend.
Oh,
that's so
awful.
Wow.
It was a scary drop.
I was not ready for it.
But
Conrad, you're a snowboarder a little bit.
You
probably could have handled it.
I haven't snowboarded since I was 14.
So
I broke a collarbone.
Oh.
12 years?
Yeah.
I survived.
I remember skiing one of the first times I was skiing and thinking like, how do people get hurt?
Cause I was on like a beginner hill and then I started to really, really go.
And then the next thing I knew, like everything was everywhere, you know, the yard sale where,
you know, I've done that a couple of times and I was like
face down and I'm like, Oh, that's how you get hurt.
Okay.
That's how you learn.
Yeah.
I don't even like, you know, we were at Blue Harbor once in Sheboygan.
And I lived in LA for years.
I never learned how to surf.
I always meant to.
I thought I was going to stay out there.
And I just never learned.
I don't ski.
I'm not really an outdoorsy guy, Greg.
Kind of an inside guy.
No, inside guy.
I like my color TV.
Yeah.
But at Blue Harbor, I thought, you know what?
I'm going to get on one of those boogie boards on the wave thing.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
They've got the wave.
I'm holding the hand of the person that works there.
That looks very masculine.
As I step onto the board and I'm on the board for about maybe a.
quarter of a second and then a and I don't I don't know where I am my shorts came down
to varying
degrees I thought I was like fall it was nuts and I thought I was like when I came to I was at the bottom right at the
like a three inches of water and then the thing shot me back up.
My wife and kids were laughing so hard.
And I'm apologizing to people because it's a family atmosphere and you don't know what you're doing.
You know, it's terrible.
And there are reels all over social media of guys like me thinking they can handle something or dumbest thing I've ever done.
Yeah,
no
kidding.
They would make a ton of money by just selling like super slow mo
of
that.
for the family members to buy.
But we're all athletes, I think that's my message here.
Yeah, that's definitely the point of what we're
talking about right
now.
Greg Vadney is here.
Greg, I have to tell you, I was saying this to Conrad earlier, I use voice text a lot because first I started typing, my writing muscles no longer work.
I can't write,
my
cursive's terrible.
Now I do voice text because I'm too lazy to type, and then I have to typically go back and fix everything.
But when I wrote down your name today,
It was Greg, wait, where is that?
I had that somewhere here.
Greg, bad knee.
It was Greg, bad knee.
So maybe a callback from your skiing story, I don't know.
I
will tell you what, that resonates in this 50 year old body.
Okay.
Good to know.
But your last name is Vadney.
Vadney.
Great to have you here.
You are the, in charge, you're the man, the executive director of the Rarwest Museum in Manitowoc.
Yeah.
It is such a great museum here in northeast Wisconsin.
And, you know, we were talking about this at the beginning of the show.
Manitowoc is such a beautiful city, right on the water.
Yeah.
I feel like more people should want to go to Manitowoc.
It is, I
mean, I'll tell you, being that I am from New York originally.
The museum is on North A Street, and that means we're eight blocks away from Lake Michigan.
And when you, even in the winter, get like the sun coming up over Lake Michigan, it is, it's resort, you know?
It's the feeling of resort.
And in the summers,
I've taken photographs that look like the Caribbean, because where we are at Manitowoc on the lake, you get this, like, azure blueish green on the lake that on the right day in July, you can think to
yourself, where are the palm trees,
man?
This is pretty resort-like.
And of course,
No matter what season it is, we have some wonderful culture, including the RR
West Art Museum.
It's a great facility, and you have a really cool exhibit happening now.
We're coming up, the Keith Herring Subway Drawing.
Keith Herring just opened on Sunday.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
And that is the end.
It's the end of our 75th year.
We're celebrating our 75th anniversary here in 2025.
And we wanted to wrap it up with something big.
for us, there are a few names as big as Keith Herring.
Now, I say that knowing that listeners might not know the name Keith Herring immediately, but you will recognize his artwork because you've probably seen it on t-shirts, on advertisements, on buttons, on hats.
Keith Herring passed away in 1990, but his artwork still resonates and we've got
a collection of artwork that he did very early in his career, but it's very recognizable.
We're talking about things like his radiant baby, three-eyed monster, his dogs.
I can actually...
If you can hold them up, hold them up to the stream.
You guys
can hold up some of these for anybody who's viewing.
They're very simple ideas.
But
if you look
at something like this...
That's Keith Herring, and
you've probably seen it a million times.
Hold it a little more, if you can.
Greg, just a little closer.
Yeah.
There you go.
I gotta get my backwards.
Oh, yeah, right.
So, you know,
these dancing figures.
The
guy running, yeah.
These are things in the dog and all that.
These are, you know, this is artwork that resonates here.
I'll hit it again there.
There you go.
Yeah.
Oh, hold it up to
the camera.
There we go.
Up a little bit.
Yeah, yeah, sure.
Oh, wow.
So we get to tell his story a little bit and talk about how he came up with this.
Because when you look at it, you're like, okay, it's very simple.
Like
these are very elementary type things.
There's the feeling of, I could have done this.
And the deal with Herring was one, he grew up in a small town in Pennsylvania.
And he loved cartoons like anybody from the middle part of the century was born 58 grew up in the sixties and early seventies.
And he's he's doodling.
He's doing cartoons like every kid.
He loves Disney.
He loves, you know, Warner Brothers cartoons.
But he, uh, from childhood was an artist and he started to develop, um,
First in Pennsylvania and then going to school in New York City in 1978 and New York in 1978 to 1980.
He ends up there at a like a time where culture in New York.
turns on its head and then explodes into the 1980s.
And
he's at the forefront.
Let's pick up right there.
Greg Vadney is here.
We'll have more with Greg after this very short break.
We're talking about Keith Herring and his very simple but very not simple art.
We'll talk more about that and all things happening at the Raw West with our pal Greg.
After this very short break is Peach Bob and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.
When I first heard that, I thought it was the actual song True by Spandau Ballet, but it was PM Done.
That was set adrift on Memory Bliss.
Yes.
PM Done.
Great tune.
How about that?
I don't mind sampling when it's kind of really different.
Yeah.
That's a great song.
It is.
And they must have, if that original, the original was Spandau Ballet.
Spandau Ballet.
True.
So that
wouldn't have been very long after the original that that
was sampled.
Maybe 10.
Yeah, yeah, 10 years.
That's the voice of Greg Vadney.
I'm Pete Schwab.
This is Nightlight.
Greg is the executive director of the Roar West Museum in Manitowoc, a great little...
gem of a museum that we have here in northeast Wisconsin.
Before the break, we were talking about the Keith Herring subway drawings exhibit that you just opened recently.
Yeah, that's right.
So it's very fortunate for us to be able to get a collection.
There have been a few Keith Herring exhibits that have traveled around the country, but they are major exhibits in major museums and his artwork.
It's really hard to come by.
So we really lucked into this.
We are working with the Alex Trimper Gallery out of Greenwich, Connecticut.
Alex had come to us with his collection of these subway drawings.
And I'll explain those in just a second.
But for a museum our size to have a Keith Herring exhibit
is
nearly unheard of.
And this is the first time that any of these drawings have been seen in the Midwest.
Really?
How do you do it?
How did you get them,
Greg?
Is it connections or?
Connections, pure connections in
this case.
Good for you, man.
Wow, that's awesome.
Right place, right time.
These have exhibited on the East Coast.
in Europe, but they've never been out here in the Midwest.
So we are really, really happy to be able to have them at the Raw West.
And we have about 35 subway drawings.
And I feel the need to explain.
So as I had kind of shown people, and once again, I encourage people, just Google Keith Herring, and you'll say, oh, I've seen that.
But Herring did designs that were very basic.
And some of the reason why he did basic designs was because he moved to New York in 1978.
He was studying at the School of Visual Arts in New York.
And he loved, he fell in love as soon as he went to New York with graffiti.
He saw it everywhere.
This is 1978, 79 in New York City.
The subways are filled with him.
But the other thing about the subway was when advertisements, advertising posters in the city, the advertisement, you know, ran out when
the
advertisement had run its course.
MTA, the Metropolitan Transit Authority, would cover it in black paper.
Well, the story goes that one day he was at the Times Square subway station and he saw this black paper in a frame, just blank black paper.
And he was like,
this is my chance to be a graffiti artist.
So he went upstairs, bought some white chalk, came back down and did a chalk drawing.
So it had to be quick and simple.
And he started to do these much like subway writers, much like graffiti artists were doing the same thing you would see over and over again, because that was kind of their calling.
Their signature,
right?
It was their
signature.
And for him, it was the radiant baby.
like a crawling baby with lines coming off of it.
And that is probably the best known Keith Herring.
So he started to do this and it was illegal.
He would get arrested from time to time.
You know, he'd get a ticket.
You know, nothing big.
But he began to build a name for himself.
So by 1980, 81, when he's doing this.
People are like, I see these things in the subway.
And they're babies or monsters or dogs he would do, robots.
But he was kind of unknown.
By then he had kind of stepped away from school and he was working at different galleries in New York.
And he was kind of getting himself plugged into the New York scene.
And this is a time where New York is really bubbling.
It's gotten through the bad years in the 1970s.
And I'll tell you what, the other thing is that he's there when hip hop is blowing up.
So he falls in love with hip hop.
He becomes good friends with people like Africa Bombada and Fab Five Freddy, Grandmaster Flash, some of the big early names in rap and hip hop.
And they are all kind of working together.
And he has this period in late 1981 where he has three shows, two group shows and one solo show.
He goes from being an unknown who people might have noticed his work in the subways to by 1982, he's doing solo shows all around the world.
He's in Milan.
He's in Paris.
He's in Tokyo.
And he's all over New York.
And he goes, you know, zero to a thousand.
into the stratosphere.
And he becomes probably second to Andy Warhol, the most popular,
the
biggest artist in the world, and certainly the biggest artist in New York.
His good friend, John Michelle Basquiat is also like a big artist
in the
1980s.
But he and Basquiat are both bright burning stars.
This is like 1982, let's say, they become famous.
Basquiat's dead by 88.
from a drug overdose.
And Herring contracts AIDS in 88 and dies in early 1990.
So it's only a seven
year
period where these guys are the biggest thing on earth.
And Herring continued to do the subway drawings up until 85.
So he goes from being a guy who the police are hassling to two years later, when he's doing those drawings, the police are calling their buddies and being like, Herring's here.
And he's taking the subway and he does like 40 of these a day.
So he'd go on the subway before he was famous and after he was famous.
He'd get on the subway and he'd travel to all of these stops looking for the paper.
And if he had blank paper, he had his chalk, he would draw it.
He'd do it in like two minutes and then he'd get on the subway.
Sometimes with a group of other people who would just follow him around to watch.
And that's where the
subway drawings
came from.
And
they're at the
Rara West.
They're at the Rara West.
These are some, most of them got torn up and
thrown
out.
He did probably thousands of them during a five year period.
But they're only handfuls of them left.
And so this is part of the collection.
It's really cool.
You can see some of the poster
that's still glued to them.
That's so cool.
And you have them.
We'll talk more about this.
This is great.
Greg Vadney is here, folks.
The executive director of the Raw West Museum in Manitowoc are really outstanding art museum.
And they have a great display on right now.
Keith Herring.
Herring, yeah.
And all right, when we come back, folks, in hour number three, more text to win.
We're going to talk Wisconsin Historical Society.
And we'll spend a few more.
Minutes with our pal, Greg Vanny.
Beachwabba Nightlight coming right back.
Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.
This is Night Light with Peach Waba.
Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.
And now, a guy who writes checks his mouth can't cash.
Peach Waba.
That's me.
Welcome back folks.
We are kicking off act three on this really fun Tuesday edition of nightlight What a show we've had Conrad.
I uh, I don't use the term local Emmy very often
You know, we reported a great story and I just think that you know because this you think I should go into it again
Maybe because Greg hasn't heard this but about the yes.
All right, Greg bad news here He is my guest from the Rar West Museum in Manitowoc and he just sat here and listened to me
Brutalize I was riveted It was it was Emmy worthy Greg this is a story about a kid who got mad at his mom I'm not gonna read the whole thing again in case there are people still listening But I can't get enough of this story this kid was mad at his mom his mom went into the school a ten-year-old boy Had an argument with his mom mom went into the school to get some stuff Comes back cars gone.
She thinks the car is stolen
with him in
it.
She's with him in it She is totally panicked a witness said they saw the car drive
away recklessly.
The police went to the home.
The kid is at the home with the dad, drove the car himself, parked it in the garage.
He was upset at mom.
And that's how he got back here.
And he's like, that's
it.
I'm driving home.
I'm going to endanger other people's lives.
Beautiful story.
That's from the Shepherd Express in Milwaukee.
We've got text-to-win stuff coming up in just a few minutes, folks.
Greg Vadney, as I mentioned, is here.
We will be right back with Greg.
Coming up at 735, Jenny Peterson from Madison's History Maker Space will be here.
That is a Wisconsin Historical Society outfit.
They do great work there.
We'll talk to Jenny at 735.
Right now, Con, I think we should remind people of our nightlight question of the night.
Let's talk about the question.
Okay, question.
Question.
Question.
Pregunta.
Question.
Question.
Here,
I have a question.
Questions.
This question.
Domanda.
Question.
Questions.
Oh, yeah.
What is your favorite Jack Nicholson movie, folks?
Jack just turned 88 the other day.
And we've had, I would say, one flu over the cuckoo's nest is, by far and away, our winner.
For me, it's Chinatown.
Conrad chose, he started something with a rock or something.
Well,
I was you know, you you know, I love Adam Sandler Yeah, and I was making a joke that it wasn't actually anger management.
It was Batman.
That's right.
It was Batman
Joker.
Yeah, I actually like it really do like that great.
Do you have a favorite Nicholson
movie?
Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna say a few good men.
Yeah, that's and
I'm gonna
say it because I did a few good men as play in high school.
Oh, and the guy who played Jack Nicholson's part I'm gonna
throw it back out
The same
guy who had
the
house in Lake Placid that
we went ski from,
and who almost killed me.
Played the Nicholson role, and it's a great... That's one of those movies you can't turn off when you're flipping around.
The performances are great.
The aesthetic of it is great.
The dark streets of DC and investigating this thing.
You know what I love
about it is they could have shoehorned a love relationship.
between Demi Moore and Tom Cruise's character, and they didn't.
That's so refreshing that they didn't feel the need that, oh, we need them to kiss.
Especially,
it just takes you out of the story sometimes.
It's so terrible when they do that, but Hollywood often feels like they have to do that.
So that's our question of the night, folks.
Let us know your favorite Nicholson movie at 855-752-4842-8557.
If you're listening on the app,
and you need the app to play text to win, you can send us a comment over the app, or if you're watching the radio on YouTube, Facebook, or X, you can drop us a stream comment.
We always love to get comments and love when you guys participate.
There are no right or wrong answers, folks, so fire away your favorite Nicholson movie.
As I mentioned, we'll do text to win.
Should we do text to win right now, Con?
Would that be the craziest thing?
No, let's do it.
Okay, let's do this, and then we'll talk more to Greg about some of the cool stuff they have happening at the Rar West.
But right now,
In this seven o'clock hour, folks, it is time to play a Civic Media's grown-up gift list multi-state text-to-win contest.
We are only going through this Friday, folks, so give yourself as many chances to win as you can, and I'm about to give you the keyword.
Greg, could you use an extra 200 bucks?
I can use an extra $200.
Let's do it, man.
Let's do it.
That'll get me to the Olympics.
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Can Greg play?
Would that be weird?
It might be weird if you won, because people might think, you know.
I don't play to lose, man.
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We were talking about the Keith Haring subway paintings or drawings drawings right subway drawings.
Yeah, yeah, and They're big like there you think he was using You know essentially poster size or larger so these are these are giant
kind of
like life-size characters that he drew and Like I had said before break.
There's only a five-year period where he was doing these but he did a ton of them
But the thing was that they were all done.
This is paper that's like glued on top of a poster.
So you can see some of the poster remnants actually underneath them, which is great because it ages them.
And also you'll see that other people have tagged them.
So there's graffiti on top of his graffiti on a few of them.
So it
really is an interesting story.
And he's, like I had said, he comes of age.
In the early 1980s, when things are just blowing up, we talked about like the hip hop and also new wave and, you know, late punk era is booming in New York City.
I was thinking of like Saturday Night Live's second run with Eddie Murphy.
They're running in the same circles too, these guys.
The Mets are starting to come around by the 1985.
And then of course, there's a lot of money.
Wall Street is exploding and there's just so much going on in the 80s.
And for me, growing up, having grown up in Albany, New York, I was far removed from New York City, but it still felt like
this
was my home state.
So I felt like I
was a part of it.
And I have these vivid memories of childhood, of like the first time I saw people break dancing, you know?
And
I
was pretty young at the time.
The New York City breakers.
That was a big group.
I remember that.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
I remember vividly being at my friend's house and listening to Run DMC for the first time.
Like as a little kid.
And our parents did not want us listening to it.
But like-
And it's so tame now, right?
This herring exhibit has been great for me because I've just gone back to the 80s.
Because he was a quintessential New York 1980s artist.
But I'll tell you what, one quick one.
When we were doing the exhibit, we wanted to make some kind of
local Midwest connection we found out in 1983 Marquette University invited him to come out because again with his kind of simple characters he did a lot of mural designs and
he
could do a mural where he would draw and have people paint and he loved working with kids groups well he worked with Marquette University to do a mural there because they were building uh at the time uh their art museum which is still there
But they had him come in and paint the construction fence.
So they got plywood, put the plywood over the fence, and he spent three days.
He traced out a lot of his major designs, like the three-headed monster and the radiant baby
and the
snake and all this dancing figures and all that.
And then students impainted it.
So they painted it all in like day glow yellow.
His partner at the time, a guy by the name of Juan DeBose,
came and DJed and like hundreds of people showed up and was just like a big dance party.
Because when he created this stuff, it was also kind of performative.
And so people could get involved.
And it's, I believe the most valuable thing they have in the Marquette Art Collection now
is
the old.
Fence, the construction fence,
is their
most expensive piece of artwork, the most valuable piece of artwork.
But that's
the power of Keith Herring, because his art brought people together.
It was basic, but in being basic, it was universal.
So
he could be an artist who could do a show in Tokyo or Milan or in the Midwest.
And people, it resonated with people because they were basic figures telling the story of humanity.
That's
Greg Vadney.
He's the executive director of the Rar West Art Museum in Manitowoc.
And I love, you know, I can tell why you're so good at your job, Greg, because you are speaking with such passion about this great exhibit you got and tip him I had for getting this.
I do want to get to a couple other things you have coming up.
Yeah, but I do want to
mention on January 21st, I'm going to be talking about this.
We're going to do a gallery tour, which will
be a bunch of
fun.
And Alex Trimper, the collector, is going to be at the museum on February
15th at the closing.
So I want people to lock that in.
But the basic thing I want to tell them to do is go to our website, rrwestartmuseum.org, where you'll find all this information.
We're also doing a collab with the Manitowoc Symphony Orchestra.
I said we're celebrating our 75th.
They're also celebrating their 75th.
So we're doing a Keith Haring collab party.
where we're going to be playing both classical music from the 1980s and also have a DJ play in music that that herring would have been playing so that that
is going on on Saturday, January 10th.
So in January, you get through the holidays, then we got a bunch of herring stuff for you.
You still gotta find
something to do.
Start the new year with a
bunch of Keith Herring stuff down at the Royal West.
You have, I wanna get this into before the break because it looks like there's only one more opportunity to do this, but it seems like a really fun event you do.
And it's called Late Night Date Night.
which
involves a
scavenger hunt.
The museum stays open later.
It sounds so fun.
And it looks like your last one is December 11th.
That's right.
A couple days from now.
Tell us about it.
Yeah, Thursday
night.
So we just decided we'd stay open late a few nights each month and allow for people to come in, make it on their schedule.
And that allows for people, you know, maybe you make it a date night or maybe you go solo and enjoy it all on your own.
But, uh, the museum is open, uh, like, like you had said this Thursday night and usually at least once a month, we try to make it.
available to people, and people love scavenger hunts.
So
we've
got scavenger hunts, you can find out things about the collection, our permanent collection, the herring exhibit, or something we haven't really talked about, which is Christmas in the Mansion, where our historic Vilas for our Mansion is all decorated for the holidays.
Can we keep
you, we gotta do one more short break, can we keep you for a few more minutes and we'll talk about the Christmas in the Mansion, but that late night, date night.
That's like school sleepover or something.
It seems like,
it
seems like really fun.
All right, Greg Badney is here.
He's going to stick around for a few more minutes and we're going to send him on his way before the weather hits.
And I don't know if we'll get to our minute to walk quiz that Conrad worked so hard on, but maybe we'll do a couple of questions.
Greg is here.
And we've got some fun Christmas stuff in Madison happening.
We're going to talk about it at 7.35.
Don't go anywhere, folks.
We're coming right back.
It's Night Light with Peach Wawa.
I DRO-
Welcome back!
I'm Pete Schwabber, this is Nightlight with Pete Schwabber.
And we are barreling through a Tuesday here in beautiful downtown Green Bay with our current guest, Mr. Greg Vanny, who is the executive director of the Rar West Museum in beautiful Manitowoc, right on the lake folks, a hidden gem here in Wisconsin with a hidden gem of a museum.
It's a hidden, you guys are pretty well known.
We try to be and thank you to you guys for helping us be a lot less hidden.
Very welcome.
Yeah.
So we talked about late night date and I love it.
I
want to
ask you about Christmas in the Mansion.
Sure.
This
is coming up December 17th on next Wednesday.
This seems really cool, too.
And what a cool event to have.
Well,
yeah.
Yeah, Christmas in the Mansion on the 17th is another tour by me.
I mean, I should be getting overtime.
Shouldn't I?
I'm doing all these tours.
We're signing.
Christmas in the Mansion is going on, but I'm going to explain it to you.
Are you a good tour guy?
In case you were wondering.
I think I'm pretty good.
Yeah.
The beautiful thing about me as a tour guide, I think is because, and I blame my Irish heritage.
I'm going to tell you a story.
It might not be a hundred percent accurate, but I'm going to give you a fun story.
And we'll talk about the history of Christmas in the mansion and the kind of way we celebrate the holidays through the years at the Rar West Art Museum.
And I'll take you through and showcase some of the rooms and talk about how the original owners decorated and make up a few things.
And then also tell you a few things about the museum.
I think it sounds really cool.
And you know, that's free.
You know, you stop into the museum.
These are drop in tours.
They're free.
And Christmas in the mansion and I might add if you haven't seen it We we have a large Victorian home and if you approach it, you're gonna think to yourself well accessibility might be an issue but a few years ago We added a six-stop elevator which serves the entire nice mansion so that this entire Victorian mansion is available It's a fully accessible now.
That's so
cool.
Yeah.
All right, so for those listening Greg who might not have
Heard of this before or know about this attraction you have at the RR West you guys host Sputnik Fest Yeah,
we got it is
so cool.
So please give us a just a it's a ways off, but people need
a
quick
rundown in 1962 the Sputnik 4 spacecraft crash landed in Wisconsin and the largest recovered piece was found directly in front of the RR West Art Museum on North 8th Street in the middle of Manitowoc
You're going to say that didn't actually happen.
Look it up.
You've already Googled Keith Herring.
Now Google Sputnik four and you guys have been
there 75 years.
So it was a
museum.
It nearly landed in a museum.
And so what now 12, 15 years ago, we started Sputnik fest 15 years ago.
Plus we started Sputnik fest where it's just a huge, ridiculous block party where everybody gets dressed up.
And we have a bunch of costume contests, great bands, great food and a way of just kind of, you know, going crazy and not really, I guess commemorating it, but it's not like a somber memorial.
Nobody was on this ship.
Right.
It's not like a guy's leg laying next to you.
Yeah.
It was a satellite that crash landed.
So when you have a ridiculous thing happen, let's throw a ridiculous part.
And
you have a fun little, not memorial, because there's nobody, but like the piece of the satellite
is commemorated.
Yeah, that's true.
It's in there.
Yeah.
On the
street, right?
It's so great.
And it's something I never knew about until I started hosting this show.
So if you haven't checked out Sputnik Fest folks.
And we'll be back.
Hopefully you'll have me back on.
I'll talk about that.
It's
every September.
Absolutely.
We do it right after
Labor Day.
We're saving this Manitowoc quiz for the next time.
We'll do the Manitowoc quiz.
That allows me to really do some cramming.
So I do my Manitowoc research and get it right.
All right.
Before we let you get
out
of here, what are you watching on TV?
Anything good binge watching
anything?
I heard you guys before I was on talking about stranger things.
I've never seen it.
My daughters are head over heels.
They're so pumped about like, was it Christmas or Christmas Eve that the next section comes out?
Oh my gosh.
No, I, I, no, I don't, I don't watch anything.
You don't watch anything.
No, I'm horrible about that.
I just watch the same stuff over and over again.
Sports, concerts, music.
Okay.
What's your sport?
Soccer is my sport, but I'm also a football guy.
I don't feel like we, we need to be a soccer or football.
I love both of them.
I love basketball, college basketball season start.
And I, I like NBA.
I'm not a guy who's like,
college is better or NBA is better.
I love sports.
We talked about it.
And when I first came on, that's why I love the Olympics.
You throw a sport in front of me.
Summer Olympics.
I'll watch freaking hours of water polo or team handball, winter Olympics, giant slalom.
Giant's Lollum is where it's at.
It's the best rhythm.
My wife is like that.
She cannot get enough of it.
But I'll watch by Athlon.
I'll watch like people skiing cross country, skiing through the woods and then shooting at a target.
Then they shoot a gun.
How did that become a sport?
I haven't the slightest.
Can I say one last thing?
And this is a Summer Olympic thing.
And anybody who's out there, if you're a producer of the Summer Olympics, which I'm sure they're listening, of course, archery.
Last Summer Olympics, I was watching some archery.
and they show like a split screen of like the target and the guy shooting and they got all this equipment on.
And then at one point in time, they showed like the whole shot from behind his shoulder of like, I don't know, 600, 700 yards.
Why don't they always show that?
That's incredible how far away they are that they're shooting these things because it's like, if you don't get a bullseye, you're knocked out.
Yeah.
in archery and like the same thing with that biathlon when they lay down, they should show from behind them.
So you see, they are not shooting at a target that's like, you know, at the arcade, right?
They are shooting like a quarter mile away.
If you have a kid
and you realize he's good at skiing and shooting, you're like, oh, you're doing the biathlon.
you're a prodigy.
And if that kid takes your car and drives away, if he's good at shooting, you let him take that
car.
Keep an eye on that kid.
That's aberrant behavior at its best, driving off.
Who has got to do that?
With his biathlon gun hanging
out the side.
Greg Badney, always fun, buddy.
Thanks so much and best of
luck.
Love being here,
Pete.
Great exhibits.
You're so much fun to have on the show.
Carmella from Milwaukee in the 414 says, all your pics are great, Jack Nicholson movies, but hands down, the shining is by far his most iconic.
Not many people would argue with you.
Bridget in the 818 says, in terms of endearment, did he win an Oscar for it?
Great character arc for him.
He might have, actually.
I think he did.
All right, we'll look into that, Bridget.
Thank you for your text.
Keep in coming.
We're coming right back to talk a really cool Christmas event in downtown Madison.
Next, Peach Wildman Nightlight.
We are in the home stretch here.
Conrad, is it snowing yet outside?
You're our resident weather expert here.
I
don't see any yet.
Okay, thank you for doing it.
I have a bigger window than you and I still asked you if it was snowing.
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All right, I'm very excited.
I love talking about the holidays, folks, and we've had a great week here.
And even last week, we've had some great guests from the Wisconsin Historical Society.
They really know how to not only celebrate Christmas, but get us in that festive holiday spirit and mood.
And we continue our discussions here with my next guest.
She is the Public Programs Manager at the Wisconsin Historical Society, Jenny Peterson.
Jenny, hi.
Hi.
Nice to meet you.
Nice to join you today.
It's nice to have you here.
What a great gig you have.
Do you love working for the Wisconsin Historical Society?
I do, yeah.
I joined last year in January and it's been a really wonderful experience to... I'm originally from Wisconsin, so it's been a really wonderful experience to come back home and do something for Wisconsin residents and just...
engage with our history again.
Yeah.
And it's a great history.
And you guys do such a great job of making people aware of it.
And just it's always a good idea to have a sense of history regardless of where you live, but especially here in Wisconsin.
So you're here to talk about this history maker space in downtown Madison on the Capitol Square.
This is a little different than the other attractions you have at the Wisconsin Historical Society.
Tell us a little bit about the history maker space.
Yeah, it is.
It's an exciting space.
So we are using it right now.
It opened in fall of 2023, and it opened in time for us to use it as a transition space as we get ready for and we prepare for the Wisconsin History Center opening in fall 2027.
It's a really wonderful, flexible space.
It's a space for programming and events.
In addition to myself, who uses it as inspiration for adult programming and family programming, we also have educators work out of there.
We also have a gift shop in there.
We have done some pop-up exhibits and displays.
So it's a really exciting space to
think about all of the different ways that we can highlight Wisconsin Midwestern history, um, and share it with the public.
It's so great.
Uh, and it starts, tell us when things start and, and when people can start to attend, or has it started already?
So we started the holiday programming this past Saturday.
Uh, we kicked it off with a program for all ages really.
It's called make it Mary and it's a holiday crafting program.
that is for it's five dollars for anybody that's ages five and over.
And essentially what we did is we took inspiration from our pop-up exhibit, which is actually highlighting Wisconsin's very own Evergleam Tree and the Evergleam history out of Manitowoc.
And so we used the Evergleam Tree as inspiration, so attendees.
can come to the program.
And our next program for the Make It Mary is actually Saturday, December 13th from one to four.
Okay.
Nice that you offer the crafts too.
That's, you know, something that's a little interactive, which sounds kind of fun.
Yeah.
So that's Make It Mary.
You also have gleam and glow.
Tell us about that.
That's fun, a 1960 celebration.
Yeah, so we
I'm really excited about this one because in learning about Everglame history and in thinking about its impact in Wisconsin history and during this time period of the 1960s where Everglames became extremely popular throughout the country, we really wanted to spotlight a little bit of the Everglame story and use that as inspiration for thinking about the music of the era, the...
Feel the vibrancy of the era.
So the event gleam and glow is a nod to the 1960s It's a nod to ever gleams.
And so we're gonna have some live music We are welcoming a band called DB octet, which is based here out of Madison and they're gonna be playing a combination of things like holiday songs Songs from Nat King Cole
We also are going to be welcoming and having some food that is going to be reminiscent of the period as well.
So we're going to have some deviled eggs, pigs in a blanket.
We're really leaning into the 1960s and the food, the music.
We're going to have to be
Every ticket price includes a complimentary beverage and so we're going to have soda, hot cocoa.
For those that are 21 and over, the cocktail special is going to be Wisconsin's own Pink Squirrel, one of our bevy of beverage, cocktail dessert beverages.
So there's going to be some crafts as well because this is an all-ages event.
We hope to welcome young people.
We hope to welcome wise people.
We hope to see a mix of attendees that are listening to the music, having some appetizers, and maybe doing some of the crafts as well, and seeing the Evergleam exhibit because that's going to be open for attendees to view and take their own photo and too.
Let's just say hypothetically, I hate deviled eggs.
What else are you guys offering?
That's fair.
So the menu includes some porcupine meatballs, mushroom and leek popovers, lamb sausage pigs in a blanket, cranberry almond mini cheese balls.
And then we do have deviled eggs.
So it's a little bit of some vegetarian friendly appetizers in there as well, but that's fair.
That's also why I definitely included more than one appetizer, because I respect that maybe deviled eggs are not quite for everyone.
You know what else sold like gangbusters in the 60s?
Pizza!
That's
true.
That is a perennial
favorite.
It actually sounds like a lot of fun.
Explain to people what
evergleam means.
And does that create a kind of a rivalry between real Christmas trees and evergleams?
It's interesting.
Yeah.
So the evergleam tree, for those that may not be as familiar with the evergleam tree, it was really something that, again, it took over America in the 1960s.
It was an aluminum Christmas tree that
Really originated out of actually a toy fair in Chicago in March 1959 and the aluminum specialty company which was Based in Manitowoc, Wisconsin They saw a aluminum tree a metal tree it at this at this fair and took note of it got a little bit of inspiration and then developed their own version of it and in they
quickly created a run of them in time for the holiday season, and that is the beginning of the Evergreen tree.
The Evergreen name came just a smidge after the first run of these aluminum trees, but they quickly grew to this expanded set of originally they were silver, silver aluminum trees, but they grew to be pink.
green and blue combos.
There were different styles of branches that you could buy for different versions of the Evergleam tree.
Different sizes.
They had some smaller ones.
They had
seven foot evergleams that the company sold.
So it really developed this array of evergreen trees, but then they also went into other products too, which is pretty cool.
So if anybody's kind of seen the circling, the rotating color wheel on sort of vintage style holiday displays, they produce color wheels so that
in the living room as you're sitting there and enjoying the tree.
You still had this magical sense of color as it went from green to blue to red to yellow and creating this festive atmosphere.
So it kind of started with the tree a little bit, but it grew to include a lot more in terms of like an offer of
an offering of how people celebrated the holidays, how they commemorated it.
Very well said.
And when I was looking it up earlier, I noticed it was also featured in a Charlie Brown Christmas too,
which is kind of
cool.
Jenny Peterson is my guest.
She is the Public Programs Manager at the Wisconsin Historical Society.
They do amazing work.
We're talking about this great event that takes place at the Capitol Square this weekend.
And you mentioned a new
facility that the Wisconsin Historical Society has going up on the Capitol Square that should be done, I think, in 2027, 100,000 square feet.
That is unbelievable.
Will this event be held there moving forward along with probably a lot of other things, I would imagine?
Yeah, there's definitely going to be an array of programming and events of all scales, sizes.
Lots of different kinds of contents and histories that are going to be shared That's definitely that that's part of conversations at this point and thinking about how we want to how we want to highlight different stories of Wisconsin history and Activate them in a way.
That's fun.
That's relatable kind of like like the gleam and glow event Yeah, and so yes, we've had some really active conversations with which is exciting and
We're going to be keeping on developing some of these different ideas, so.
So great.
If people want more information on Gleam and Glow or all of the things going on this weekend, just wisconsinhistory.org.
Wisconsin history, yep, wisconsinhistory.org.
And the, I do, I realized.
a second ago that I forgot to say that our Gleam and Glow event is going to be coming up on the 19th.
Our Make It Mary is going to be Saturday the 13th that's coming up, and that's the All Ages Family Craft Programming from one to four.
And the Gleam and Glow is going to be next Friday on the 19th.
But all of the information is on there.
And you can read a little bit more about some of the different aspects of our celebrations.
Such a great group.
You guys do such great work.
And a shout out again to Rebecca Werner, who puts me in touch with all of my guests from the Wisconsin Historical Society.
Love what you guys do there.
Before we let you go, favorite Christmas movie, Jenny?
You know, I really, it's a classic.
I love it.
It's a wonderful life.
I grew up watching it every year with my parents and my brother and
That is a great tradition.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe some deviled eggs while you're watching Jimmy
Stewart.
We didn't have deviled eggs for it, but you know, I guess there's always room for finding new traditions.
Absolutely.
Very
well
said.
Hey, this has been fun.
Thank you so much, Jenny.
Have a great event, a great couple of events coming up.
And don't be a stranger.
Thanks so much for your time tonight.
Thank you for your time.
It was a pleasure.
And yeah, thank you for having me.
You're very welcome.
Jenny Peterson, check out just go to Wisconsinhistory.org.
They have so much going on and it's all fun stuff.
We're going to come back and wrap things up and read some final texts and have maybe a final word, maybe a final weather report from Conrad if we can, if we can twist his arm.
It's Peach Wabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.
It's just a great tune.
It is a great tune.
It's fun.
Hey, tomorrow night, folks, on Nightlight, we're going to have another, I don't know if I'd call this a gala event, but a soiree of sorts.
Sean Katzback will be here from the Marinette.
He is the marketing director in Marinette.
He's going to tell us about a really cool event at the community rec center there in Marinette called, from kids to one to 92, a really fun event they do there annually in Marinette.
Sean and I are from the same hood.
It'll be fun to connect with him over the radio.
At 6.35 tomorrow night, Dick Chudnow will be here.
He is one of the founders of comedy sports in Milwaukee.
And I don't know if you remember this Conrad, when David Zucker was on the show.
We were talking about some of the films he did like Airplane and Naked Gun.
And he wrote with his brother, Jerry Zucker.
It was David, Jerry, and a guy named Jim Abraham's, all from Wisconsin, all from Shorewood High School.
They went to Madison, then they went out to LA, and they conquered Hollywood, so to speak, made some great films.
And when I mentioned this to David Zucker during his interview, he said, and Dick Chudnow was one of the guys in their group at Shorewood High School and Madison.
And Dick apparently opted not to go out to LA and stuck around Wisconsin and started comedy sports.
So I'm very excited to talk to Dick tomorrow night about comedy sports and then Northeast Wisconsin stage actor Martin Prevost will be here as well.
That's tomorrow night on Nightlight.
We've got, how are we doing on text?
Did we get all the text?
We got a couple here that we can read on.
Bust them out, man.
Who do we miss?
I don't like to miss a text.
You know that.
John Murray.
Well, I got some for you in the Google chat there.
Do you?
I do.
Where's the Google chat?
The one, you know, between you and I.
From your personal account?
Yes.
Conrad Krieger with two Ks?
Just say my middle name, too.
What is your middle name?
Like Kevin with a K, too?
No, it's Kevin with a C. How cool would that be?
Conrad with a K?
I'll say my middle name cannot be with a K, but it's actually Stephen, my dad's
name.
Conrad Steven Krieger, and Steven with a K, I assume.
It just went more traditional with an S. That's a fine name.
John Murray from the 608 says, hey guys, don't forget about Easy Rider Classic in so many ways.
Bridget, we got Bridget, she said, in terms of endearment.
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Something's gotta give.
One of my favorite actresses was Diane Keaton.
Barb is, of course, talking about our guest in the five o'clock hour, the wonderful Jane McNair.
Lynn from the 608 says, one flew over the cuckoo's nest.
That's gotta be our winner tonight,
Kyle.
It has to be.
I think we've received many texts for
that.
Yeah, we read Sage's text.
Boy, that's great.
Everybody, thank you so much for your calls and texts.
It's always more fun when you guys participate.
We do have a couple of social media texts here.
We'll finish up.
Sarah Jean says, one flew over the cuckoo's nest.
Man, I gotta give this a rewatch.
Have you ever seen it?
No, I haven't.
It's a pretty crazy movie.
I haven't seen it probably since like when I was 10.
So I would probably get much more out of it now.
Matt Harper, Green Bay rock rap artist says the departed.
Also my favorite movie of all time.
That's our first departed text.
And Nicholson was great in that.
Good choice, Matt.
The de-padded, as they say in Boston.
JB Thompson, you know him, Conrad.
He's the guy behind the guy.
Behind the guy.
Yeah.
He says Pete Schwabba in regard to my selection of Chinatown.
JB says, a phenomenal film noir where it is difficult to ascertain if she is truly her sister or her daughter.
If you haven't seen Chinatown, yes, that is as weird as it sounds.
JB continues, have no fear.
JJ will get to the bottom of this.
Great choice, Pete.
Jake Gittis, I think it is.
JJ, who's JJ?
Maybe that means JB.
Justin Jefferson.
Justin Jefferson will get to the bottom of this.
JB says, his favorite Nicholson movie is The Shining, a quality film where all work and no play definitely did not make Jack a dull boy.
That is kind of crazy, right?
Yeah, The Shining is great, too.
Love The Shining.
And finally, Richard on social media on Facebook says, one flew over the cuckoo's nest.
Great stuff, great texts, great guests.
I'd like to thank Jane McNair, Greg Vadney, and Jenny Peterson.
Great conversations, everybody.
And I think I covered everything, Conn.
I don't think I forgot anything.
We do got one text from John Murray.
Go for it, dude.
And he said, Connard, I want to show you my massive beer can collection.
It needs a good home.
Let me know if you want a list or something.
That almost sounds like if a guy in the neighborhood said, hey, I want to show you my beer can collection, sounds a little weird.
But we met John last week.
Yeah.
He's a really good dude.
So I wouldn't be nervous about that, Conn.
What does he want to do?
Have you over for like sodas?
Soda?
Spotted cows?
Couple spotted cows.
That's awesome.
Thank you, John.
And I know I'm hoping Steady Eddie doesn't send a text in at the last moment, but we're going to get out of here.
I'm going to get out of the road.
Thanks so much, folks.
Lots of fun here at Nightlight tonight.
Thank you, Conrad.
What do you got going on?
You got a long drive home, huh?
Yeah, all 13 minutes of them.
13 minutes to get home.
Yeah, that's a quarter of the time it takes me to get home and you live in town Well, I had to go to the other
side, you know
Okay, the other side
of the city the snow might be you know might be a 16-minute drive with
the snow on the east side All right on behalf of the lovable producer Conrad.
I'm Pete Schwabba folks.
Thanks for being with me tonight.
Good night, Wisconsin