Christmas Music and Crab Legs (Hour 2)

Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.

This is Night Light with Pete Chwaba.

Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now a guy who loves to watch true crime, but only if it's shoplifting, Pete Chwaba.

Is it just me?

Am I on an island there?

Love a good, good shoplifting caper.

That's how you do it.

Hey, welcome to Nightlight, everybody.

It is Monday, finally, after an excruciatingly long weekend that was filled with joy and relatives and food and football and movies and all kinds of fun stuff.

Great to have you with me.

Great to be back behind the mic talking about the things and life that we love.

Here at nightlight which we do every night now from 5 to 8 p.m Riding in the producer seat tonight is still not Conrad Krieger But the wonderfully talented and awesome dude Aaron Zomers.

Hey

buddy.

Hey Pete.

Hey, you know Sometimes Conrad just spends a little extra time in Florida and that's okay, you know

Listen, I don't blame him.

He missed a big snowfall here.

That's the whole reason you go to Florida, right?

Yeah, that's why

they have snowbirds Exactly, did you get snow where you are?

I did I got there was snow here in Madison.

It depends exactly where you are, but there was like 11 inches in some places And then I also spent some time in Manitowoc with my family and we got quite a bit there as well I think like eight and a half maybe We didn't do too bad.

We got about it's Marinette is in a weird pocket right now, and that's where I am tonight doing the show from home we

We're like four to five degrees warmer than madison and milwaukee It seems like lately and we've gotten less snow.

I I don't know if we're Eventually marinette might be the new florida.

I don't know.

I'm not saying that I'm not making that guesstimation But uh, we have not been hit too hard.

It was like three or four inches pretty easy to shovel And I do shovel my own walks.

I'm not a primadonna I don't know about you guys and I'm not judging anybody.

Do you shovel zammers?

Uh, here in Madison, we have to shovel our own, we, my roommate tonight, we have to shovel our own driveway and walkway up to the door, but it's a small driveway and a small walkway.

Since it's an apartment, the rest is all taken care of for us.

See, that's why apartment living is so great.

I mean, I own a house.

I love my house, but I honestly, when I was your age, I never thought I would own a house and I had no desire to.

I was like, I like being able to call someone when something breaks because I'll just make it worse if I try to fix it.

I don't love doing yard work.

I do it now because I have to and I have a guy that helps me out from time to time.

But yeah, I don't know.

Savor your apartment days, Aaron.

That's what I'm

saying.

Absolutely.

There are some things that's nice to be able to do yourself.

Like if something's not working and you know exactly what's wrong, like, oh, the flusher in the toilet is broken, but it's this piece that would take me three seconds to repair, but I can't because if I do and I somehow mess it up, I'm in a lot of trouble.

So I have to wait for someone else to come fix it.

That's how I was too.

I had a landlord in Chicago who was very much like that.

Like anything I told him was broken, he would ask me what I did, like put it on me.

Like

it was

getting to the point where it's like, Hey, my faucet's broken.

You turn the water on.

I'll go.

Yeah.

He goes, see, there you go.

I'm like, wait a minute.

Like I thought this is what I'm paying for, but I don't mind renting.

Renting is not terrible.

I get why people buy.

I'm glad I bought.

I'm addicted to my house now, but with it.

Especially when it snows or you got yard work or a storm.

It's very can be very stressful But either way great to have you with me tonight wherever you're joining us from in Wisconsin across our beautiful snowy state Here's the problem Aaron is you got 11 inches in Madison.

You might not see grass until May That's the problem

with the

early snowfall and I don't know if you know Thanksgiving is considered an early snowfall But I think we we avoided this kind of stuff the last few years this early on anyway

Yeah, it was it's been very weird

You know, a lot of older people, I don't necessarily even mean older, just older than I am.

I am 27 tomorrow.

But hey, nice.

Oh, it figures your birthdays the day after you finish helping me out here and sitting for cameras.

We'll still give you a shout out.

Well, thank you.

But people who are older than I am say they really see the effects of climate change.

But I mean, I do too.

I remember being a kid and having tons of snow days in December and always having a white

Christmas

with tons of snow.

And then the last few years it just really has not been that it's been like oh, it's it's Christmas and I can just stand outside in a t-shirt

I Don't mind that I know I have so many friends that snowmobile and ice fish and just due to the area that I live in that's a big Activity around here are winter sports and I I feel kind of bad what they don't get to do it, but I don't mind

Soaking up some rays in december either so uh, all right.

We've got a lot to get to this is a big show I don't know if you're aware of this air and we talked about it a little bit before the show started But it is tomorrow was giving tuesday.

Did you know that it is?

I

didn't know that's

exciting This is a global movement giving tuesday folks and uh, you can help us lift up your community by giving tomorrow That's december 2nd uh, civic media believes this day is special and impactful and essential because it is

Our stations across the state will be highlighting and raising money for local organizations That make a real difference and if you can give something or feel like being charitable Before we get too close too much closer to Christmas and you've got to spend Christmas money.

It would be outstanding Just be listening tomorrow and learn how you support you can support your community on giving Tuesday We will give you the stations basically.

It's you just go to your local civic media stations websites

And you can take it from there.

We'll have a list of businesses and all that kind of stuff.

But more details on that tomorrow.

Also, folks, pardon me, this is an exciting day because it's another multi-state civic media text-to-win contest.

And it starts today and goes through December 12th.

It's going to be a lot of fun.

You'll be able to pick a present from our grown-up gift list if you listen at your chance to win our text-to-win contest.

And we've got some great prizes, too, as usual.

You just need the app to play.

That's all you have to do.

Most of you probably have it.

If you don't have the Civic Media app, I urge you to get it and be part of this really fun contest that we do from time to time here at Civic Media.

All you have to do is listen for the keyword, you know the drill, text it in, and you could win $200 in cash, plus get entered for a chance at our grand prizes.

A brand new, speaking of snow, Snowblower.

a stainless steel cookware set or a portable air conditioner.

It will be hot again, folks, and you'll have a chance to use that air conditioner, but still a great prize.

All great prizes.

Just download the Civic Media app and listen weekdays through December 12th for your chance to win in our multi-state holiday contest.

I'm giving you the keyword in just about three or four minutes here.

So stand by if you have your app ready and want to play.

Man, I got so much to get to Zomers.

What am I forgetting?

Oh, should we do our question of the night?

Should we get that out of the way?

Let's do this because I want to talk about what you ate on Thanksgiving and I don't know if that's a personal question or not But I do I'm not afraid to delve into the serious topics here at night light.

I had a great Thanksgiving It's funny to me that national pie day is today December 1st when most of us probably did our fair share of pie eating in the last few days

So maybe you don't want to think about pie anymore for a while.

Maybe you've still got pumpkin on the brain, or maybe you want to do something else.

But today is National Pie Day, so that brings us to our question of the night.

Let's talk about the question.

OK, question.

Question.

Question.

Pregunta.

Question.

Question.

OK, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Domanda.

Question.

Question.

Questions.

Well, you probably already guessed it, but what is your favorite kind of pie?

Let me know and I will read your text and your thoughts on the radio eight five five seven five two four eight four two eight five five seven five civic What is your favorite kind of pie?

And I think it's good that we're asking this now because people might be sick of pumpkin even though It's their favorite so they might say something else But either way you can also text us on the app that I just spoke so glowingly about get yourself the civic media app

Or if you are watching the radio on YouTube, Facebook, or Twitter, you can drop us a stream comment and let us know your favorite kind of pie.

Did you know this summer's Elon Musk apparently took to ex Twitter, I still call it Twitter, and took a poll on whether or not people want him to change the name back to Twitter.

I do remember that.

And it was overwhelming that people wanted him to change it.

So he just deleted the poll.

At least that's what I wanted

validation for that stupid reboot rebrand, whatever you want to call it.

It

makes

no sense.

He didn't get it.

People love Twitter.

You tweet.

That was the whole point of why it was named Twitter.

I guess it was probably Jack Dorsey that came up with that, the original owner, but that is so.

That's what he offered free speech on what we should do and then he squashed it.

So what is your favorite kind of pie, folks?

Let me know.

I'm going to.

You know, do you have one, Zomers?

I feel like I should let you go first since you're being such a good sport here.

I feel like my favorite kind of pie has got to be apple.

You know, it's just a classic, something that I've always had growing up.

I know there are other more interesting quote and quote types of pies, but I don't know, just the cinnamon, the apple, add a little bit of ice cream or whipped cream on it, especially ice cream.

And I don't know.

It's just, it's something special for me.

I love it.

And I also, I did have pumpkin pie over Thanksgiving.

But it's not my favorite, but I go with it because it tastes like fall.

It tastes like Thanksgiving.

I'll probably have some at Christmas, but I would have to say my favorite is key lime.

I love a good key lime pie, and I really, it's kind of dangerous when I'm around a key lime pie.

I feel like Homer Simpson when Marge says, now Homer, don't you eat this pie?

And he says,

Okay, but you know, he's going to that's how I am around key line.

I also like a nice chocolate satin pie.

I don't even know if that's considered pie, but very rich, but good stuff.

So let us know.

Zommer says Apple, nothing wrong with that.

You like Dutch Apple, Aaron?

I don't know what the difference is.

Dutch Apple has like little like crumbles on top that have like cinnamon and streusel maybe or something

like that.

Instead of like a full

top.

Exactly.

It makes it even more sweet, but it's delicious.

I will say that.

All right.

It is time, folks, for our text to win.

I'm going to give you the keyword here.

Tonight's keyword in our text to win, our multi-state text to win contest that goes through December 12th.

Our adult grown up gift list could be, well, part of the items could be yours if you play along.

And tonight's keyword is Holly.

Or I should say this hour's keyword is Holly, H-O-L-L-Y.

So text that in on the civic media app very specific and you can make yourself eligible to win 200 bucks in cash or get entered into a chance at our grand prizes a brand new snowblower a stainless steel cookware set or a portable air conditioner This ours keyword is Holly H-O-L-L-Y Mr. Zomers Do you have any of those items you probably don't have a snowblower?

I do not own one.

No

Okay, do you have a do you have an air

conditioner?

Uh, it's part of the apartment.

I am very thankful for that.

You get central air.

That's huge.

That's a that's a coup.

What about a stainless steel cookware set?

And if you have one, do you use it?

See, I do, but I've had to throw pieces of it out or donate them because it was a really, really cheap one that I'm not actually convinced with stainless steel.

What if it was like aluminum or tin

or something?

Or at least it was very thin.

And they wore down pretty quickly.

And I don't know, just, yeah, this one I've heard really good things about.

I remember internally when talking about the contest, people were like, there's cookware, so I just wanted to get excited about.

And I knew that too because,

yeah, because people that are actually, that are cooks or make food know that.

See, it sounds like you bought a bendable steel set, and that is always going to come back to bite you.

Yeah.

Well, until I just get rid of all of it, which is close.

Exactly.

All right, so the phone lines are open, folks, as always, 855-752-4842.

You can tell us about your Thanksgiving.

I hope it was a good one.

We've got Bears Packers, a Bears Packers weekend.

We're going to talk about that when we come back and we'll read some of your texts.

Have a few laughs, folks.

It is the merry season.

It's here.

It's December 1st.

Happy Monday, everybody.

Coming right back on the Civic Media Radio Network.

I'm Pete Schwab.

This is Nightlight.

That's Mariah Carey Very hard to write a new Christmas song, but that's a good I love that song.

Oh, yeah, this one is a classic for sure

It really is and it's like what 25 years old maybe at

most

Here you go right here this part How are you not happy

See, that's the thing, like most people, great choice, Zomers too.

And I told you to pull that because she makes, I might be exaggerating here.

Mariah Carey, every holiday season makes $3 trillion from that song.

Holy crap,

is that her

personally?

That's a lot.

She puts a lot of it in savings.

But no, that song is, it's a great song.

That's one I don't really ever get sick of hearing.

Now,

I don't listen to Christmas music nonstop, but it is officially December 1st, so we can start playing it.

So there you go.

It is Cyber Monday, folks.

So I don't know.

Do you partake in any of the Cyber Monday or Black Friday stuff, Zomers?

Yeah, some.

Also, quick note, 1994.

So it is just over 25 years old is

when all I want for Christmas is you

came out.

But yeah, this year for Black Friday slash Cyber Monday, I pretty much just just got clothes.

for myself.

I didn't really buy anything for anybody else.

I

didn't go with any of the

big retailers like Amazon or anything.

Just like, you know, I got a new wool hat and scarf because I don't have a scarf.

And I feel like that would be good to have when it's cold.

See, that's what I try to do.

I try to actually avoid going to the big websites lately.

And it's not really even a political thing.

It's just sort of a I know there are other people out there that could use the money.

Whether they're mom and pop places or whatever, but I have a theory.

I don't think I'm not saying you don't save to a degree on Black Friday or Cyber Monday, but I Just think they don't really lower the prices that much.

It's like it's like in your head now It's part of our vernacular or our fabric in America.

Oh big big savings You got a shop on Cyber Monday, but I wonder if really if people really pay attention what they're spending I saw at billboard years ago

that said, now you can get HBO for $15.99 a month.

Like I'm supposed to go, oh my god, it was the same price it had been.

I think HBO is still $15.99 a month.

So it's kind of a psychology, I think, behind the consumer aspect, if you will.

But I try not to shop in those days anyway.

I don't deal with crowds.

I don't even want to go online and go to Amazon or anything like that.

So all right.

Hey, we've got a good show.

I mean talked about what great guests we have tonight But coming up in just a few minutes folks from Old World Wisconsin their general manager of guest services Betsy Gasper will be here to talk about a really cool event at this great Museum Old World Wisconsin we have here compliments of the Wisconsin Historical Society.

It is the largest Historical Museum in Wisconsin and we'll talk to Betsy about a really cool event.

She'll be along shortly

And then at 6.10, I'm very excited to welcome a friend of mine who is also in the greater Marinette metropolitan area.

Her name is Jane Wells.

She will be here talking about the West Shore Chorale Concert that is happening this weekend.

Jane is the director of this really great group that puts on outstanding shows here in the Marinette area.

We get some serious...

outstanding entertainment here, thanks to the West Shore Corral, which Jane took over a few years ago.

She will be here shortly at 6 10.

Actually, Jane will be here to talk about that.

Then my pal, Dobie Maxwell will be here.

He's performing at memories ballroom this weekend in Port Washington will tell you how you can get tickets and where you can go for that.

And then our pal Matt Miller will be here to discuss movies and.

Oscar buzz holiday films still do to be released as we get ever closer to Christmas Matt will be here He is always a blast to talk to that's at 720.

So that is a full full list of Infotainment there as bombers if you will and I need to also get a plug in for if you're in the Madison area This weekend or you know, maybe you're up for a road trip come on down to the Atwood music hall Thursday night December 4th

A screening of a film I made, it's the 20th anniversary screening of The Godfather of Green Bay, a really fun film, if I do say so myself, starring Tony Goldman, Lauren Holly, Thomas Lennon, and Lance Barber, they were on the show last week to help promote it.

And it's a fun story about a guy who finally gets a shot at The Tonight Show, a guy named Joe Keegan, played by me.

Here's the catch, Zomers, you ready for this?

All right, the audition is at a roadside bar in wisconsin in the middle of deer hunting season because that's where the talent scout for the tonight show goes every year to deer hunt So these two guys a road trip from los angeles to wisconsin to get seen for the tonight show and they Meet all kinds of fun small bar small town bar characters.

It's gonna be a lot of fun The show starts at seven at the outward music hall this thursday doors open at six

Sponsored by Doundren's Distilling and the John and Gordy show and WMDX here at Civic Media.

John and Gordy will introduce me and then they will host a question and answer session after the movie.

So that will be fun.

And the music is by the Bodines.

Very Wisconsin film.

Hope you can come out.

Should be a fun night.

Say hello if you do.

And I would love to meet you.

How are we doing?

Are those keywords rolling insiders?

They are.

They are coming in.

We're also getting a bunch of texts about people's favorite kinds of pie.

I knew we were gonna, I knew, see, I knew.

People love pie.

People love food, but especially pie.

This was a home run.

And you know what the best thing about pie is, especially after Thanksgiving, I do this all the time.

Pumpkin pie for breakfast, ladies and gentlemen, nothing goes better with a cup of coffee than some pumpkin pie reheated from the night before.

It's all good stuff.

Did you have leftovers?

Oh yeah, I had some for lunch today.

We also did our Thanksgiving on Saturday, so they're a little fresher than you might expect.

Oh, that's good, because today is supposed to be the last day you're supposed to eat Thanksgiving leftovers.

There's a whole etiquette to this, I guess.

Our question of the night, what's your favorite pie?

Let us know.

We're coming right back to talk about Santa Claus and Old World Wisconsin.

That's after the news.

It's Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

I love it.

I think we have to pace ourselves to those bombers.

Yeah, that's fair.

I just, you know.

No, listen, I get it.

It's December 1st.

I'm excited right now.

But like by tomorrow, I don't want to overdo it.

That's all I'm saying.

But that's another one of my favorites.

I like that one too.

Peach Wabba and Nightlight here.

Welcome, folks.

It is Monday.

We are finally back on the air and it is so great to have you here.

A really fun week here on Night Light, ladies and gentlemen.

Lauren Holly will be here on Wednesday night to talk about the Godfather of Green Bay Screening.

I just talked about in Madison Thursday night.

My pal Mike Siegel will be here.

We've got Betsy Gasper coming up in just a couple of minutes.

And we've got a celebrity chef on the show this week.

It's going to be a lot of fun.

So make sure you tune in every night here.

Our question of the night is what is your favorite kind of pie?

It is National Pie Day.

So we're talking about Pie tonight.

And Lil' Lerv says, I hate this song.

And you know what, Lil' Lerv?

You cannot bring me down, sir.

You are one of our best textors.

But I'm, you know what?

I think what we need to do, Zahmour, is bring in Betsy and get her take on the Mariah Carey song.

What do you think?

I think so.

And she's here.

All right.

Let's do that.

I'm very excited, folks, to welcome tonight light from Old World Wisconsin.

She is the general manager of guest services.

uh Betsy Gasper Betsy welcome

thank you so much so glad to join you tonight

no it's our pleasure how was your Thanksgiving

it was fabulous lots of turkey lots of stuffing you know all the good stuff

oh you didn't do cheeseburgers this year like i did or some

no no cheeseburgers

shoestring potatoes.

Come on.

Well, that's great.

I'm glad to

hear that.

It is great to have you here.

But before I get into all this cool stuff happening at Old World Wisconsin, I have to ask something very important.

Do you have a favorite kind of pie?

I do.

I actually, my favorite is chocolate pecan bourbon pie.

Oh my gosh.

If you like pecan pie, you got to add some bourbon and some chocolate, and then it is

fabulous.

All of those things are standalone delicious, so I would imagine if you roll them all into one, it's outstanding.

And I just realized I asked you two questions about food right out of the gate, so you're probably like, why am I here again?

That's OK.

That's just an icebreaker.

We're going to get to everything happening at Old World Wisconsin.

It is so fun talking about this museum.

We've talked about it several times on Nightlight before.

Tell us, Betsy, about breakfast with Santa, a really cool event you're bringing back as part of your home for the holidays that you haven't done in a while.

We have not we haven't done it for we don't actually we were trying to find the records We don't know for sure, but it's been more than 10 years Since we've had breakfast with Santa, so we're really happy to bring it back this year

So what what is it?

Tell us a little bit about the event itself like if we go there.

What can you expect you actually eat breakfast with Santa?

Yeah

you sure do.

We have a breakfast buffet.

So you get all kinds of yummy things, roasted potatoes, French toast, eggs, bacon, sausage, pastries, all kinds of good stuff.

And of course, hot chocolate with peppermint whipped cream, can't forget that.

And then Santa is there at the breakfast.

So he kind of mingles with everybody.

And then there's an opportunity to have your photo taken with Santa.

And then for each child who attends, he also brings a special gift.

Wow, that sounds it sounds like Santa's going to be doing a lot of eating.

Is there more than one Santa?

No, there is one Santa, but I have heard that Mrs. Claus is also coming with him.

So maybe she keeps an eye on what he's eating.

I'm not sure.

Santa can can get we can fatten him up a little bit leading up to Christmas, but then Mrs. Claus probably keeps after him to maybe hit the treadmill or do some some circuitry.

I'm guessing it's not just a coincidence either that this event takes place in the beautifully rustic, as you describe it, octagonal, closing barn.

What is that?

This is built in 1897.

It sounds really cool.

Can you tell us a little bit about that?

Yeah, definitely.

It is one of the oldest barns on our property.

It has actually just been completely refurbished in the lower level where our commercial kitchen and our small cafe are.

And then the upper level we have used for years for lots of special events.

We even have people who have had weddings here.

So the top is a big open area with beautiful lighting and that's where Santa is going to be in the upper level.

Wow, that sounds like so much fun.

For people that haven't been to Old World Wisconsin, Betsy, can you give us a little background?

I've been in Wisconsin for years.

I still haven't been there, but every time I read it about it, I'm like, I got to go there.

If people haven't been there, how do you sell them on it?

What do you tell them to get them to go?

Sure, definitely.

Well, we are a historic site and everything that is here on our property was moved here from other places in Wisconsin.

So we tell the story of the people who settled here in Wisconsin.

So from Germans to Norwegians, we have a wide variety of ethnic backgrounds that we have buildings from where they settled.

So our site is actually celebrating its 50th birthday next year.

So we have been around for almost 50 years now.

And we are part of the Wisconsin Historical Society, and we're located out in Eagle.

If you don't know where Eagle is, we are about 20 minutes from Macquanago, a half an hour from a conimal walk, or 45 minutes from Lake Geneva.

Wow.

And you have over 600 acres.

How much of...

Old World Wisconsin can be visited in a day or do you need to take two days?

It's a plan like a weekend or something.

Yeah, it really depends how much you want to see of the property, but we tell most people if they want to see all of our offerings, especially during the summer season when we're open, we recommend four to five hours time to be able to experience everything that is on our site as well as take a break and have some food, something to drink, something like that.

But four to five hours

is a perfect timing for home for the holidays, which is coming up this weekend and the weekend after we say about two and a half to three hours, because all 600 acres is not open for winter, especially with our snow that we just got.

Yeah, right.

My guest is Betsy Gasper.

She is the manager of guest services at Old World Wisconsin, a great facility, a great museum we have here in Wisconsin.

It takes place, the event takes place December 6th and 7th and 13th and 14th.

You still have plenty of time to gather up the kids.

Where can people find out more about the event?

Your website, I presume?

Yes, they can go to our website.

They can just search up Old World Wisconsin and you can find information about Home for the Holidays.

I will put a little perk in for our breakfast with Santa.

I looked right before I got on the phone with you and we literally have only four tickets left.

and then for this Saturday, the 6th.

All other tickets are sold out for breakfast with Santa except those four.

Oh, wow.

All right.

So let's say people can they still go to the to the grounds and check out is it just the Santa thing that's selling out or is it the whole home for the holidays event?

It is just the breakfast with Santa.

Home for the holidays still has plenty of tickets available, so Home for the Holidays opens at 10 a.m., whereas the breakfast is at 8, so you can come anytime between 10 a.m.

and 3 p.m.

for Home for the Holidays.

Perfect.

This sounds really fun, and I'm taking this off your website.

It says, enjoy a sleigh bell jingling horse-drawn wagon ride.

Six bucks a person, very reasonable, especially with gas prices, what they are.

past garland draped homes and businesses and taking the natural beauty of your grounds.

Are these houses all on the grounds?

Do you go into other neighborhoods?

How does this work?

No, they are all on our ground.

So we have like a village that would have been the way that it was set up in the 1890s.

So we have a general store, a blacksmith shop, a shoe shop, a few homes, the four mile house, which would have been a stagecoach stop.

We also have a semi-modern building where you can get your food and actual more modern restrooms, which is important.

and some other buildings in our village area.

So the sleigh ride actually goes through our village and allows you to go past those buildings and then see where some of our other events are going on during our Home for the Holidays program.

Why does Christmas seem so much more Christmassy when it's from yesteryear?

No, no, that's a good question.

It's just I think the memories that people cherish with their families.

I think it just makes it feel like, you know, more warm and cozy.

And so when you, you know, come and experience history in that way, it maybe it connects you to your ancestors or just helps you create your own current family memories.

Great answer.

You also have Krampus' cabin, which I find kind of funny.

Would you encourage people to bring their kids there if they have not been so good throughout the course of the year and maybe take

them to the Krampus' cabin?

You could, definitely.

Yeah, Krampus is actually a like German or Austrian character.

It's celebrated especially in like the Elps region and he is kind of the opposite of Santa.

He visits children who have been naughty and brings them lumps of coal and he is like kind of rustic I guess you would say.

His costume includes like coats of goat and sheep fur.

He has like a horned mask.

He also wears bells so you can hear him when he's coming but he also carries with him a leather switch.

because the naughty children need to be reminded that they were

naughty.

Oh, man, normally see somebody like drive horses with.

Yes, something like that.

Yep.

Yep.

So Krampus is just to remind those kids to be good.

Here I am talking about this wholesome Christmas and old world has a bit of an edgy side to it to

it.

So we sure do well.

Our ancestors from Germany brought this tradition over.

So we like to educate people on it and let them learn a little bit kind of about that tradition and where it came from.

Well said.

And for those parents who their kids are stressing them out, you can also steer them toward, I hope I'm saying this right, Wittnebel's Tavern.

Family Christmas style after 19

or 30s or 40s holiday decor.

Tell us about that.

You have cocktails there.

We sure do.

Yeah, we moved Whitney Ables Tavern here to the site last year and then it was able to open this summer.

So it's our first home for the holidays with Whitney Ables being open.

So the tavern will be open for adult beverages during our home for the holidays.

They're actually serving a hot toddy, which is bourbon and clove and honey, brown sugar.

That one sounds very yummy.

They're also doing

irish coffees so coffee and they'll have a bunch of different flavors of irish cream and then if you don't want something hot you like cool beverages they're also doing a cherry mule so with a wisconsin made cherry vodka and ginger beer and lemon wow

do you how many parents and be honest ask for a double

It wouldn't surprise me.

Yeah, especially after they're at the breakfast with Santa, maybe on their way out, they'll grab one and walk around the rest of the site.

Right, some Bloody Marys with Santa, something like that.

So, all right, so Betsy, any other events coming up at Old World Wisconsin that you can kind of tease or that we should look forward to after the holidays or other events that are holiday related?

Yeah.

Yeah, so after the holidays we actually closed down to the public for a little while just because of the weather.

But our most exciting thing is we are actually in the process of building a new welcome center here at Old World Wisconsin.

And that will actually open next season.

So that will open in May.

And we will have a brand new welcome experience as people come in for their ticketing.

We'll also have a brand new gift shop and a lot of new restrooms that will double our capacity, which is fabulous.

And that will open just in time for our 50th birthday.

Outstanding stuff.

Betsy, have great holidays.

Thank you so much for your time tonight.

You bet.

Have a Merry Christmas.

All right, you too.

We are coming right back.

It's Nightlight with Pete Schwab.

I'm gonna give you the keyword again, folks.

Don't go anywhere.

That's not a Christmas tune, is it?

It is

not.

It is easy as pie.

Oh,

well

done.

Well done.

That is Aaron Zommer's folks filling in for Conrad Krieger.

Conrad is back from Florida tomorrow.

He might be back tonight.

He might just be taking a me day, taking a good long swim in Lake Conrad, perhaps.

But he will be back tomorrow.

Aaron Zommer's is in the producer's chair tonight.

Always fun to work with Aaron.

And it's because he comes up with songs like that, which pertain directly to our question of the night, which is, what is your favorite kind of pie?

So let me know and I will read your text on the radio.

Once again, folks, the key word in tonight's our new text to win multi-state text to win contest here at Civic Media is Holly, H-O-L-L-Y, Holly.

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So our question of the night is what is your favorite kind of pie?

Carrie from Tosa in the 414 says key lime 100% Totally agree with you.

Carrie.

We are kindred spirits.

I said the same thing earlier in the show.

Well done Rosemary in the 715 says banana cream Love banana cream pie Zomers you ever had

banana cream?

I don't think I have I have had key lime pie like once it was very good

But banana cream, I don't think I've had.

I bet I would like it, though.

Dude, I'm not trying to tell you what to do or how to run your life, but when this show is over, run to the Madison Fresh Market on University and get yourself some key lime pie.

It is dynamite.

If they're open, all right.

If you don't like it, I'll pay for it.

Just get something cheap.

And you know what?

Banana cream is one of those pies, Rosemary, too, that used to freak me out because of the cream and the banana.

It just didn't sound that sweet, but it's delicious.

As I got older, I developed a serious appreciation for banana cream.

Tom from Jackson says strawberry rhubarb, another very popular pie, especially here in Wisconsin.

Thank you, Tom.

Good to hear from you, buddy.

Monica in the 608 says pumpkin is my favorite, but apparently not when I make it.

I was only responsible for the pie and it wasn't edible without ready whip because it wasn't sweet.

Key lime is my second favorite, but a good key lime pie is hard to find.

I got two words for you, Monica.

Sarah Lee.

That is how unfussy I am about key lime pie.

Like obviously a fresh one made with real key limes is great, but there are a couple store bought ones that I, there might go to desserts on cheat days.

I recommend it, but I'm sorry about your pumpkin pie there too, Monica.

I'm sure it was, I'm sure you're being too hard on yourself.

Rhett from the 920 says, my favorite pie, lemon meringue, especially if you walk into a food fight.

Summers, what do you make of that

text?

You know, I mean, it is, it's gotta be one of the top pies to throw at someone's face.

It has to be a cream pie.

But here's the thing,

when you throw a pie at someone, those are like prop pies and they're mostly whipped cream.

Yeah, we never do a disservice to the pie community by throwing a lemon meringue pie in someone's face.

That's just a waste of good pie.

Even if you like the person, you're

throwing the baya.

It's terrible.

However, if you have, like, you know, if you're limited on options, if you're in a situation that calls for somebody to be pied and you only have a couple pies around, I would pick that over pumpkin or apple.

Yeah.

Although pumpkin, you could probably do some damage.

That's got some weight.

Yeah.

If

I don't want to get sued, I'll probably go with the green one.

Maybe not the way Monica makes it.

So, all right, fair enough, Brett.

Thank you, sir.

Jim from Brookfield in the 262 says, hi, Pete.

I'm right there with you regarding key lime pie.

I really enjoy the tangy, sweet, citrus taste and creamy texture, add a buttery graham cracker crust, and you have a slice of heaven.

I could not have said that better myself, Jim.

He says, a distant second is pecan pie, my wife's favorite, but for me, it's a far distant.

I'm not here to promote marital instability, Jim.

I think there is no right answer, but I do appreciate your text.

Don't get in trouble with your wife.

Robert from La Crosse says, Cranberry walnut pie.

I've never even heard of that.

He says, especially the ones made with made with church ladies in Warrens,

Wisconsin.

I think made by presumably not made with as an ingredient.

Yeah.

Would you ever go like, listen, if I thought this pie was that good, it would be enough to probably get me to go to their church.

This particular pie would not because I am allergic to walnuts.

If it weren't for that, yes.

I would even maybe genuflect while buying it at the bake sale.

Tyler in the 608 says, Edward's frozen coconut cream cheesecake pie is too good to be true.

And then he's got the triple M's, the mm, but I wasn't going to do that because I thought that would be... I thought people might think I was doing that to Tyler's text instead of him actually texting the mm, like mm, mm, good.

So

that is

exactly what I was trying to think of earlier was Edwards frozen because they make a good key lime pie, too.

Gotcha.

Yeah, I haven't had that one.

Yeah, it's good stuff.

All right.

So we got the keyword out there.

There will be a new one coming at seven o'clock in the seven o'clock hour.

It is so great to have you here, folks.

We've got a really fun show tonight.

Back on the air after a long weekend, we just spoke with Betsy Gasper from Old World.

It's hard to say, old world at Wisconsin.

We've got Jane Wells coming up after the news from Marinette.

She's the director of the West Shore Corral.

She will be here shortly.

Dobie Maxwell, Mr. Funny, Mr. Comedian, Mr. Lucky, as they used to call him back in the day, I'll tell you why when he's here, but Dobie is always fun to talk to.

And then Matt Miller, Milwaukee Film Critic will be here in hour number three, Aaron Zammer's riding shotgun for the kid Conrad Krieger.

Our question of the night is what is your favorite kind of pie?

So let us know and we will read your text on the radio.

Folks, it is so great to have you here.

This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.

This is Night Light with Pete Chwaba.

Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now, a guy who does his own stunts, Pete Chwaba.

Welcome back.

Hey, great to have you here folks.

It is a Monday night.

After a long weekend where I was, I had to talk about entertainment casually with friends and family, which is fine too, but it's more fun to do it in an official capacity here.

Like we do every night at nightlight.

Happy December 1st, everybody, the Christmas season is officially upon us.

Lots going on all month.

We've got great guests.

It's great that you're here tonight.

We have a really fun show.

The first hour we spoke with Betsy Gasper from Old World Wisconsin.

talked about their breakfast with Santa event coming up.

That sounds like a lot of fun.

Check that out at oldworldwisconsin.org.

Coming up in just a couple of minutes, we'll have the director of the West Shore Corral in Marinette, Wisconsin, a fine organization that does outstanding work in the little community where I live here in Wisconsin.

So we'll talk to Jane Wells in just a couple of minutes.

Dolby Maxwell is here at 635.

Comedian, you can see in Port Washington this weekend at Memories Ballroom.

And Matt Miller, our favorite Milwaukee film critic, will be here at 720 to tell you what you can check out in theaters as we get closer to Christmas.

Erin Zommers is sitting in for Conrad Krieger tonight, who is still on vacation.

Do you ever worry that Conrad's just not coming back, Erin?

Well, I don't really worry about it because, you know, that would just mean that I get to spend more time on the show.

I love it when you're here, dude.

We

always

have a good time.

And we love

Conrad.

Of course we do.

Not in the big way.

But he's a good guy.

That's all I can say about Conrad.

He's a very good guy.

So he will be back tomorrow.

And we've got lots going on this week, too.

We've got Lauren Holly on Wednesday, and lots of great guests all week.

Mike Siegel will be here, possibly.

We've got Matt Miller later this show.

Who do we have?

Who else do we have on Tuesday, Somers?

We've got a lot of big...

Here i'm gonna pull that up right now because i want people to know uh bill lef is going to help us tomorrow night bill is the uh he is the host of tune in with me a nationally syndicated show on the cartoon network and bill was our first guest here at nightlight so he's going to be here tomorrow night we're going to celebrate our two-year anniversary probably over the course of tomorrow night and wednesday night as well as we lead up to the godfather of greenbay screening december fourth thursday night at the atwood music hall in the atwood

hood of Madison.

So if you're in the Madison area, come on out.

It's the godfather of Green Bay.

We'll start at seven o'clock.

Some of the proceeds go to the Dane County Humane Society.

So it's for a good cause.

The film stars Tony Goldwyn, Lauren Holly, pardon me, Lance Barber, Thomas Lennon, me, Tracy Thorpe, all kinds of fun talent in the film.

It's a feel good film with some big laughs.

I shot it in Marinette.

It's the 20th anniversary screening, so it'll be fun.

Thursday night in Madison, we'll talk to Lauren Holly about that on Wednesday and We'll talk to Bill left about our anniversary our two-year nightlight anniversary lots of stuff going on this week So it's great to have you here and Aaron's armors to boot if that wasn't good enough Should we mention giving Tuesday again?

Sure.

I mean York you just did

I just do it.

Well, do you just said giving Tuesday when you asked if you mentioned I know that doesn't

count, right?

I can't yeah

It's always nice when your producer is trying to mess with you on the air.

Giving Tuesday is tomorrow, folks.

Listen up tomorrow.

We will tell you about this great global movement and that celebrates the power of generosity.

And this is the perfect time of year to do something like this.

Civic media believes this day is special, impactful, and essential.

Our stations across the state, many of which play nightlight on a nightly basis, will highlight and raise money for local organizations.

I will tell you tomorrow, but be listening.

tomorrow and learn how you can support your community on Giving Tuesday.

All right, let's get without further ado, let's talk about some West Shore Corral.

If you thought you were in the Christmas spirit, folks, just because it's December 1st, well, good for you.

I do too.

I love Mondays and I love December 1st.

But right now, I'm going to give you an opportunity to road trip to Marinette if you're not in the Marinette Menominee area and see this really cool concert happening this Sunday night.

from the West Shore Corral and the group's director is here tonight with me on Nightlight for a little bit.

Miss Jane Wells.

Hi, Jane.

Hey, Pete.

How's it going?

It's good.

You sound good.

You sound like you could sing a tune.

I'm not I'm not pressuring you.

I'm not, you know,

I don't warm up.

So

that'll be okay.

Hey, it's great to have you here.

Thank you for being here tonight.

Thank you so much for having me.

I'm excited.

I have to ask you, we do a question of the night every night here on Nightlight.

somewhat, you know, topical or a national day.

Today is national pie day.

Do you have a favorite pie, Jane?

I saw that actually scrolling across the screen and I was hoping you'd ask me because my grandmother used to make an amazing raspberry pie and it was my absolute favorite.

I've tried to replicate it, but you know, it's just never as good as grandma's.

Do you have the actual recipe?

Like, did she leave it with you?

Okay.

So what do you think is going on

when we started dating and he didn't even have a slice of it, which has become a long time joke.

It's

like a

girl made a pie for you, and you didn't even try it.

Listen, if someone makes a pie for me on a first date, I'm eating the whole thing just out of curiosity.

It's a courtesy situation, right?

It

wasn't a first date, but it was like within the first month or two, so.

Well, that makes sense.

That might have been weird.

If you made him a pie on date number one, he might have been running for the hill, so.

I'm not in a Hallmark movie here, so.

Very well.

Well, that's a great, that is a great answer.

Raspberry Pi.

I love it.

Jane Wells.

So tell us about this.

Tell us about the West Shore Corral.

How did this come to be?

And I love when, you know, Marinette is not a big town, but we have certain things that happen there culturally that I feel like we're so blessed to have in the West Shore Corral is one of them.

So tell us a little bit about the history of the group, if you could.

Yeah, so unfortunately, I don't remember the exact year that it started.

I believe it was in the early 80s

But David Giebler, who was the music professor at UW Marinette at the time, started this group because he said, you know, for an area of our size, we need some more culture.

We need to promote this kind of stuff.

We should have a community choir.

So

he started that and then students from the university could actually take the choir for credit.

So it was we called it a community choir.

So he

continued it for over 30 years, almost 40, maybe more than 40, but I took over when he retired in 2018.

And since then, we no longer have the in-person classes at UW, GB Marinette.

But we are so lucky that our theater got to hold on to the West Shore Corral.

It's become a really beloved group.

especially for me, but I know our community appreciates it too.

And it's such a special place for our singers and it's a little different every semester.

We just have a great time.

And the shows you do are outstanding.

And it's funny that, you know, when you live in a small town, sometimes when people give up something like David Giebler did when he walked away from this group that he founded,

You know, sometimes you don't have people to step in.

So we're very lucky to have you.

So keep up the great work.

Thank you.

You're

so kind.

Are you having fun?

Do you like doing that?

I mean, I'm sure the practice gets busy around the holidays.

You have to go whether you want to or not, because people depend on you.

It's open to the community right now, right?

The group, anybody can join, right?

Absolutely, yeah.

We have singers of all ages anywhere from high school on up.

I mean, we've got retirees, you know, and alongside with somebody who just graduated from high school.

I love doing it so so so much and the joke is always that the music makers are preparing everyone else for the holidays because we're so busy.

We don't

actually get to prepare for it ourselves but you know this concert we're only or this group we only do one concert so it really doesn't feel like too much but I just there's such a wonderful group of people I love that it's so dynamic in age and just what everyone's interested in but we all come into this room

for one purpose to make music and to make community.

And it holds such a special place in my heart.

I feel so honored that I get to work with these people.

Wow, that's a great answer.

The West Shore Corral, you can see them December 7th, that's this Sunday at 4 p.m.

at the beautiful Theater on the Bay here in Marinette.

My guest is Jane Wells.

She is the director of the group, took over in 2018 and is doing a great job.

Is there a theme to this year's show, Jane, or is there a theme year to year?

Yeah, so I try to kind of do a little theme that I can work different pieces into each semester we do a

winter concert in december and we do a spring one end of april early may and this one is the winter's night so all of our pieces have something to do with snow or you know winter we've got a couple really blustery kind of cold evokes those emotions but then

we also

have some nice warm heartfelt like you're you know sitting at the window watching the snow fall with a cup of you know hot

Tea or something

That is something like everybody looks forward to at this time of year and it's so great You know that the show exists.

I understand you're in a little bit of a predicament this year because the show Runs up against the Packer Bear game My guess is some people will still go to the show

in either record the game or catch the second half.

I hope they do because of the work you guys put in.

But what would you say to these people in an effort to get them to come out and see some live music instead of a silly old football game?

All right.

Well, we we did try our best.

It was originally scheduled for noon and those NFL people just decided to move it.

We were trying to accommodate both.

But I understand as an avid packer fan.

But as one of my members said, you can always, you know, record it.

And then when you get home, you just get to fast forward through all the commercials and you just straight game.

Exactly.

If that is the play, in my opinion, Jane.

What okay, so if you always how do you pick a space like because theater on the Bay is so beautiful?

It's right on the water if you've been to Marinette folks, you know Bayshore Drive It's a very picturesque setting.

I know they've you've had the concert in churches before too.

Is there an optimal place or venue that you prefer?

Oh

That's a tough question.

It's hard because the Herbert L. Williams Theater is our home.

That's where we meet that's you know

It's just steps away from the choir room where we rehearse every week.

But ideally, somewhere that was a little more ringy, like a small cathedral, a lot of churches have that more kind of warm, focused sound.

We've only done ours in a church once, and that was because the theater was under construction, because I do feel so strongly that theater on the Bay is our home.

We would love a little warmer sound, but we do love being at home and the people who come to see us.

Are there times you're directing that you just want to break into song?

How do you keep the singer inside of you from breaking into song when you're directing all these people you're responsible for?

It's really hard.

I want

to think

about that all the time.

I sing in rehearsals all the time, but I do get to kind of like mouth and live through it.

There's a different part of the musicality that live in you when you're directing.

And I think that there's, you know, definitely an artistic approach to that, too, because how I

how I am looking at them, how I am moving my body, it how I am breathing, they're looking at me and if they see that they're gonna

That's going to prompt them on what they need to do.

So if I'm being really herky jerky and kind of crazy, that's going to make them nervous and tighten up.

If

I'm

nice and slow and relaxed and I look relaxed, that will help them to also be relaxed.

So a lot of how I always tell them, I'm like, if we're going to make a mistake, you're going to do it because you're watching me.

I'll make the mistake.

You just watch me and then I can take the blame for it.

Like, don't do your own thing.

That's a great answer.

You know, some of us just need a little push, Jane.

the group.

Listen, if you could have a big shower setting, I sound amazing in the shower.

I would bring a lot to your group.

So just something to think about.

A stairwell is like the best.

Actually, that's

where we should

have a concert is in a stairwell.

That sounds fun to me.

We're coming right back.

Jane Wells is here.

A very short break.

It's Peach Wabba and Night Light.

Welcome back.

That, of course, is Mariah Carey, who that is a new classic.

It's very hard to write a Christmas classic as Zomers and I talked about earlier.

My guest is Jane Wells.

She is the director of the West Shore Chorale here in beautiful Marinette, Wisconsin.

Their show is December 7th at 4 p.m.

at the beautiful theater on the Bay here in Marinette.

Definitely worth if you're even close in the area, come on by.

It should be a really fun concert.

Right on the water here in gorgeous Marinette.

I hope Jane I hope you never pull a Giebler and step down even though he did it for 40 years Well one year at a time all right, so I have to ask you this is interesting you live a stone's throw away from where I live I see you walking your dog out.

We talk sometimes and Another one of our listeners who is a regular listener Dave grew up down that street Pine Beach Road

He texted earlier.

He does not like the Mariah Carey song.

I'm a big fan.

Where do you come in on the Mariah Carey all I want for

Christmas?

I don't seek it out, but when it's on It's a bop, right?

I mean you can't not kind of dance along with it like Mariah Carey.

She's super talented I have no qualms with her It's just not necessarily my style of music But that song is just a lot of fun and it does evoke that kind of

You know, it's like you feel like you're out shopping for Christmas when you hear that song.

So

I'm

cool with it.

Will we ever hear that in one of your West Shore corrals?

Maybe get my dad to sing it.

Tom Schwab, he's a member of the West Shore corral.

He'd be happy to belt it out.

I

think that'd be a fun solo for him.

Yeah.

Do you have a favorite Christmas Carol, Jane?

Oh, favorite Christmas Carol.

I mean, I really.

Now I just lost the the name of it.

Oh, low, how are rose air blooming?

I'm old school.

It's like an old hugo dissler.

There's a beautiful coral version of it.

That's just absolutely gorgeous.

But I love it.

In my house, it's Bing Crosby.

We are always listening to the classics.

OK, here's another not not controversial question for you.

But the Bing Crosby David Bowie song, Little Drummer Boy, where do you where do you fall in that one?

That one I'm less into, I will again listen to it.

And that's the

one where at the end they add the like, peace on earth.

I like that.

Sure, we'll listen to it.

You gotta sing on the show sometime, Jane.

Even those little, even not warmed up, you sound great.

I would love to have you in the studio to sing sometime if you're up for

that.

I mean, maybe, sure.

Zomers, you heard it.

We have proof for using it.

Jane just committed.

Before we let you go, Jane, and break a leg this weekend is very exciting.

It's going to be a great show, I'm sure.

Are you binge watching anything that you could recommend?

And we talk about TV a lot on this show, color television and movies.

What could you recommend?

Well, we just finished rewatching Schitt's Creek for like the fourth time, but we recently started the newest season of Man on the Inside.

I love to dance in.

Oh

yeah, that's a good show.

Yeah, so he's like a retired engineering professor who moves into a retirement home to become a

PI or

not to become but it just inadvertently is a PI and then the second season now he's on a new case and it's just cute and quirky and charming.

Head dancing if he hangs in there things are really gonna start to go his way.

Yeah, I think

I think

he's got

something

And real real quick your favorite singer someone you grew up Watching or wanting to emulate as you got older and found the beauty of song as it were

I think So, you know, I might get some plaque for this, but I'm a huge Coldplay fan.

Oh

nice

I love their music.

It was a big thing.

I was a, you know, coming of age teenager and my brother was in college and he was like, you got to listen to this new band.

And then my sister sent me a CD and I wanted to be cool like my older siblings.

And then just as I got older, so many more of the lyrics really clicked with me inside my head and my heart.

And as I've gotten older, even now, though their music is so different than kind of like the studio stuff they were doing when they first came out.

just their whole message about being good to each other and, you know, messages of love and whatnot to our other humans on the planet.

I really appreciate that about them.

And so in my world, they can do practically no wrong.

That is a great and very honest answer from my guest Jane Wells.

She is the...

Director of the West Shore Corral here in Marinette, check out their show Sunday, December 7th.

That's this Sunday, 4 p.m.

at the Theater on the Bay in Marinette.

If you're in the area, you will not be disappointed.

It's a fun show and it will get you in the holiday, the holiday mood, maybe even more than Mariah Carey.

Jane, thank you so much for your time tonight and break a leg this weekend.

Thank you so much.

I appreciate your support and having me on here.

Always.

All right.

That's Jane Wells, my neighbor, Zomers.

How do you like that?

Always cool to have a cool neighbor.

I had to go over several times and tell them their music was too loud.

They give me a lot of flak.

They've threatened to call the cops.

They're like, whatever, whatever radio boy, you do what you have to do.

But I'm sorry about