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Planes, Trains, and Gordon Lightfoot (Hour 1)
Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Tue Nov 25, 2025
Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay, this is Night Light with Pete Chwaba.
Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.
And now, a guy who does his own stunts, Pete Chwaba.
Hello everybody.
Welcome to Night Light.
It is Tuesday.
It's not just Tuesday.
Because I know Tuesday, it's been said on Seinfeld Tuesday has no feel.
A lot of people don't really feel Tuesday, but this is a Thanksgiving week Tuesday.
And that's different.
That kind of feels like a Thursday to me.
But if I want verification or if I want to be vouched for, I can't go to Conrad Krieger tonight because he is still in Florida.
It wasn't a one-day trip and joining me tonight a night like once again is my pal Aaron Zahmers affectionately known as Zahmers.
Hey, buddy.
Hey, yeah, you know, I have to agree it
very much does feel like a Thursday, but yeah Still with the rest of the work from the previous week crammed in
Right, it's a short week which makes us feel good, but it's a week's worth of stuff you have to do in like two and a half days So it's it's there's the rub as they say.
How are you doing tonight, buddy?
doing well,
always an adventure, making radio.
Absolutely.
Well, it's great.
You are holding down the fort in Madison there.
Is anybody still there?
I'm curious.
A few people are.
John and
Gordy,
who now have their statewide program that anybody who's been listening just heard, they may not have left the building just yet, but they're certainly about to, if not.
But after they leave and after Megan leaves, I will be the only one here.
So soon there will be nobody else.
That is creepy, dude.
Well, tell John and Gordy I said hello, my civic media older brothers, as I refer to them.
It's great to be on the air.
It's Tuesday of a holiday week.
This is a short week for me.
I am done tonight, and we will have some outstanding highlight shows coming up Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
And this week, it's fun.
We've had really fun guests this week and as we do every week, but on Friday, particularly, we're going to have a best of this week because we had Tom Lennon, we have Lance Barber on tonight from Young Sheldon, Paul Vandenplatz from Wonderfully Wisconsin, and then some other really fun best of shows coming up Wednesday and Thursday as well, which include interviews from Wisconsin Foodies, Arthur Ersink, Mike Schmidt, Katie LeClerk from A Cherry Pie Christmas, which was shot in Door County.
Actor Mike Starr you might remember Mike from Dumb and Dumber.
He was the guy that picked up Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels They were singing right in his face.
You're maybe like that movie, right?
I
haven't actually seen that one.
Oh dear god.
I know it's required.
I know it's required viewing I just haven't gotten around to it yet.
So I remember Mike Starr from Nightlight with Pete Schwabba
Okay, well, that's fine too because he was great But he's one of those guys like we had him on and I kept having to cut him off because we had to go to commercial because it's radio and most people nowadays are used to podcasts where they just go and go and Mike has got so many stories But it'll be nice to see what con put together with Mike star in that Thursday night.
That's Thanksgiving Day best of Also my interview with David Zucker will be part of that show the comedy city guys here in Depeer trapper chef
We played one of his songs so a lot of fun still on nightlight the rest of the week But tonight we got a great show too folks.
It's gonna be a lot of fun.
We are talking about I'm just gonna lead with this but Because a lot of our guests this week were determined by an event happening next week December 4th at the Atwood music festival There will be a screening of a film I made called the Godfather of Green Bay It's December 4th starts at 7 o'clock doors open at 6 sponsored by Downwinds Distilling
and the John and Gordy morning show at WMDX here at Civic Media.
The Atwood Music Hall is a great venue, and it's going to be a lot of fun.
Tickets are only $10.
Part of the proceeds go to the Dane County Humane Society, so it's for a good cause.
John and Gordy are going to host a Q&A with me after the screening.
And the Godfather of Green Bay is a feel-good comedy.
As I mentioned, Tom Lennon, who was on last night, it was great talking to Tom.
Lance Barber is on tonight.
They were both in the film.
Lauren Holly who will be on the show next week next Wednesday Is in the film she plays opposite me?
That's right.
I got to act I got to act opposite Lauren Holly Tony Goldman's in the movie all kinds of great Milwaukee actors like Eric Price and Rob Martin Tracy Thorpe from Chicago Steve Seger and Jimmy Pardo Mike Segal Mike to me all guys you've heard on a night like night light and gals too So it's gonna be a lot of fun.
It's a feel-good movie perfect way to kick off your holidays and a lot of the proceeds go to
a good cause, as I mentioned.
So come on out, say hello if you can.
We'll have some food, some drinks, some conversation.
It's going to be a blast.
And tonight, from the godfather of Green Bay and young Sheldon, and he just informed me too that there's a new season of the comeback with Lisa Kudrow.
Lance Barber will be here at 6.35 tonight.
At 5.35 on the show, my old pal Stuart Waddles, who is our civic media news director for Southeast Wisconsin.
Aaron.
Did I tell you what Stuart and I are going to be talking about?
I don't know if you did.
Oh, I mean, I know part of it is going to be a certain musical artist that has had a resurgence
lately.
It's going to be outstanding.
Gordon Lightfoot, because it was the 50th anniversary of the Edmund Fitzgerald Stuart, because of that, just discovered Gordon Lightfoot's music.
So he'll give us a little roundup of what's happening in southeast Wisconsin, maybe some new stories we should pay attention to.
And then we'll talk some Gordon Lightfoot.
Then Lance Barber at 635 and then my old pal Courtney Cronin doled a very funny stand-up comedian and writer will be here at 720 So we've got some some music some laughs a little celebrity element to the show.
It should be a fun You know what it is Aaron?
It's the kind of show Conrad is gonna wish he was here for
Absolutely, and we're just gonna have
to tell
him to go back and watch it on YouTube or listen to the podcast
I'm sure he's got the whole family down there in Florida huddled around the radio
and listening to nightlight tonight as they always do.
So I had this happen.
I don't know what happened.
You're a tech guy.
Maybe you can help me with this.
All my ads, my inbox in my email, I'm getting Kansas City ads.
Ads from Kansas City.
And on my sports, I use the Odyssey app to follow my teams.
It's all Kansas City.
I'm getting these Kansas City lawyer ads, like, Mike's got this.
Go to Mike'sGotThis.com.
He got me $600,000 in a settlement.
Mike's got this.
I'm going to take hostages if I hear that ad one more time, and I'm getting Kansas City chief stuff.
What do I do, Aaron?
Help me.
You know, I wish I knew.
I've also been the victim of, I'll say, misplaced advertising.
A few months ago, I was just reading some news articles for work on my phone, and I noticed an ad for a breast milk pump.
And I'm like, huh, that's weird.
I'm not the target audience.
And I scrolled down a little bit further and there was another one.
And I'm like, okay, that's even weirder.
The next day I went and I was reading some articles just on like games for my own entertainment and the ad was for a different breast milk pump.
And I'm like, okay, who, who at Google told you something very incorrect about me?
This does not apply to me in any way.
You know, I know that you probably aren't the target audience, but if the price is fair, you might want to move on that.
You know, I guess, yeah,
I can stock up for the future.
Who knows?
I would buy them all and sell them in the black market.
Maybe jack up the price, let's capitalism, buddy.
You could use this to your advantage.
You know, I didn't really think about it that way.
Here's another tech thing.
I know you can relate to this too, as most of the people listening probably can.
But this morning, it was ad after ad, worse than ever.
I think I was on Twitter, then I went to Yahoo News, and I couldn't find...
the the X to close out the ad and it took up like three quarters of the page I'm like hate that I had to maximize my screen.
I still couldn't find it It's like they're the tech guys or the code writers or whoever they are Are trying to raise people's blood pressure and the the amount of the news story I could see was about two It was about an inch of like a 12 inch screen
So I had to scroll.
I just gave up.
And then I'm like scrolling, reading this article two lines at a time.
It was maddening.
Yeah.
Like really, all that does is make people leave the website.
I mean, the thing that I hate the most is when you do see the X, but then it goes away for a little bit right when you're about to click on it.
So you end up clicking
on
the ad and then it comes back later.
It's like, are you kidding me?
This is
so annoying.
I guarantee they do that on purpose.
And the other thing they do, I think is when the ad pops up.
You're right.
You go to click on it and it disappears.
You open a whole new page so they get clicks or the spot where you're supposed to click moves.
It's really many.
And I will not, I will not buy that product.
I make a point to say I'm never buying that product.
I don't care how expensive or inexpensive the breast pump is.
I'm not buying that product.
Right.
Like if they were, if they're respectful ads, I can close out of whenever I want, you know, regardless of what the product is, you might have my interest just to support your business practices.
Exactly.
All right, we speak the same language.
That's great.
So we've got a really fun show tonight.
Great guests, as I mentioned, folks.
And I want to read a couple of texts because I don't like to miss texts.
But John Murray.
One of our regular textures in the 608 texted me because we had prerecorded material on last night to close the show and he texted during that time So John in the 608 said evening gents great show as usual Peter you got skills and your sidekick needs a show sometime soon What do you think about that Zomers?
Well, maybe he's talking about Conrad, you know,
he didn't specify maybe
he didn't
mean
No, he was listening last night and then he put a PS and he said I don't think Conrad should ever have his own show
I missed that text.
But I think he was giving you a compliment and he compliments con every night too.
John's a great guy.
Then you left another one.
This is also from John in the 608.
He says, my grandma, Gigi, made the best pumpkin bars ever.
And she always made me my own personal pumpkin pie.
I would make her proud every year and down the whole thing after dinner, homemade pie heaven.
Now only Jesus and the Gigi's family upstairs get to indulge.
R.I.P.
GG Thanksgiving is missing a star on earth.
Very nice text, John.
Very nice text.
Made him his own pumpkin pie.
That's like some serious special treatment.
So I think, you know, as I'm without further ado, we should get to our nightlight question of the night.
Let's talk about the question.
Okay, question.
Question.
Question.
Pregunta.
Question.
Question.
Okay, I have a question.
Questions.
This question.
Domanda.
Question.
Question.
Questions.
Oh, man.
That's a great one.
It's Steve Martin's birthday today.
Very simple question.
What is your favorite Steve Martin movie?
How do you like that one, folks?
Driving home on the way home right now?
You get to think about that?
Text us.
Let me know your favorite Steve Martin movie and I have a feeling I know what a lot of people are gonna say because You know planes trains and automobiles dropped on this day.
Actually, I think that's on this day in 1987 Actually, I don't think it's Steve Martin's birthday forget everything I said up until this point.
Just disregard the entire show No, but Steve Martin, I think planes trains and automobile automobiles dropped on this day in 1987 one of my favorite movies a fat-free movie
if I may.
The script is great.
The acting is great.
The story is beautiful.
It's got laughs.
It's heartwarming.
It's got great story.
It's even got suspense on some level because you, I mean, you assume they'll get home, but they tell the story in such a great way.
It was executed flawlessly.
So that is my favorite Steve Martin movie, but I want to know yours.
He's done some great ones.
I would do honorable mention like The Man with Two Brains, The Jerk,
Deadman don't wear a plaid I like to go back to early Steve career when I talk about his his movies But let me know what you think be part of the show 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 civic You can also text us on the app very easy to use and if you don't have it you should get it because it's outstanding and very easy to use like I just said If you're watching the radio on YouTube Facebook or X you can drop us a stream comment there and let us know what your favorite Steve Martin movie is
Just a heads up to folks.
We've got some really cool stuff happening.
WGBW station manager Dan Marcus is going to come into the studio and tell us about a really cool event here in Green Bay.
We've got Giving Tuesday happening next week here at Civic Media.
It's going to be a phenomenal time and a charitable time.
And we've got a text-to-win contest coming up that we're going to tell you all about too throughout the course of the show.
Another one of our awesome multi-state Civic Media text-to-win contest.
Who is that Zomers?
This is Steve Earl with Continental Trailways Blues.
Oh, a song
from plane strains and automobiles.
I love it, dude.
I love it.
We're coming right back.
It's a nightlight with Pete Schwab, but Dan Marcus is here.
That that I recognize You know a really underrated soundtrack in that movie, too It's peach wabba and night like great to have you with me on a Tuesday that feels like a Thursday because it's a short week and it's a big holiday Happy Thanksgiving to all listening and wherever you're joining me from across the state.
It's great to have you Our question of the night and that's why Zomers was playing that song was what is your favorite Steve Martin movie?
Planes, Pranes, and Automobiles came out on this day in 1987 and that's why that is our question of the night.
So let us know, let us know what your favorite Steve Martin movie is at 855-752-4842 or you can drop us a stream comment or use the app.
The app is outstanding and very easy to use.
It's my pleasure not to welcome a guy who is sticking around longer than he probably wants to, but he's joining me.
He's the station manager here at WGBW.
I'm proud to call him a mentor and a friend, Mr. Dan Marcus.
Mr.
Well, you know, you're you're you're kissing up.
You know, you're just I'm not kissing up.
I don't do that, despite your good looks and your rippling muscles.
I never do that kind of thing.
Dan, I wanted to have you on because there's this really cool event going on here in Green Bay.
So if those of you in northeast Wisconsin are listening, we need to talk about help me say it.
Chris Kindle Market.
Chris Kindle Market.
It sounds like a really cool event.
It is.
I mean, this is where this is an outdoor market, German style food.
Of course, there are beverages and but crafts and beer and programming.
I mean, Santa's there for the kids, you know, and but one of the neat things is because it's outdoor and it's cold, a cold weather event, they've got igloos that you can rent.
I mean,
that's going to rent them.
You can rent them for like 75 minutes.
I don't know how much it costs.
It doesn't, you know, that's prices.
Besides the point, they, they provide a pretzel tray.
So come
on, you know, is that for warming purposes or what do you think people are renting glues for Dan?
I don't want to make any nefarious.
No, they're not there and they're playing scrabble.
Come on.
the way your voice rose when you said that makes me think.
Well, I just channeled my puberty,
didn't I?
Exactly.
That sounds like a great event.
That sounds like a lot of fun.
Well, it is.
And the nice thing is that it's three days a week.
It's not just Thursdays Friday.
It's not just Thursdays, for example.
Now, it's not happening this Thursday because it's Valentine's Day Thanksgiving, but
Uh, it's happening Thursdays, Fridays and Saturdays.
Did I get the, yes.
Yeah, I think the 20th
through December 20th,
December 20th.
And, uh, but this is, it's a gathering place.
It's, uh, it's its own little community.
Absolutely.
It sounds like a blast.
And, uh, the Green Bay is just a beautiful place to be for, uh, for Christmas.
If you're in the area, definitely check that out.
Uh, hey, how was the parade last weekend?
The parade was a hoot.
Yeah, we were well represented.
Well, we had the station van there with a big rubber nose out of the theme of the parade was Rudolph and friends.
So we had antlers out the side of the vehicle and we had we were playing music and people as we were going down the street were dancing to
Wonderful Christmas time and Rudolph the Red Nose reindeer and it was I love those and we were passing out candy to the kids
Yeah,
yeah, I
I'm kind of conflicted because as much as I love Christmas like my wife is one of those people She'd say put the tree up a week before Thanksgiving.
I'm like no no no no fully enjoy Thanksgiving.
No, what's your wife's first name Mary Mary stop that
He's one of the bosses here, Mary, you heard him.
But I kind of feel the same way, although you can say like the Green Bay Christmas Parade is kind of a Thanksgiving parade too.
It's just a fun
holiday.
Yeah, definitely.
But it takes on a Christmas flavor and Santa's in it now.
Santa doesn't come around for Thanksgiving, so that makes it a Christmas parade.
Well, this will be logical here.
Well said.
What are your plans for Thanksgiving?
My wife and I are hosting her son and his wife and my dog and my cat.
Nice.
Yeah.
Nice
group.
I wish I had a fireplace in my house.
It'd be perfect, but, but you know what I'm going to do because it's the Packers and the Lions.
I'm because that is a Thanksgiving tradition in the old Marcus household.
So I am going to watch the game, but I'm going to turn off the color so it's in black and white like it used
to be when I was a
kid.
Really?
Yeah.
You remember black and white TV, you do not look that old and I'm not kissing up again.
But I will say that you're wearing the enemy's colors here.
You got some, you're rocking.
You know, I
got dressed at 430 in the morning and it was dark in the bedroom.
I couldn't turn the light on.
I'd wake up Vicki.
So I just grabbed a shirt and turned out to be this lion colored
one and I'm sorry.
Just make sure you take it
off.
I'll be wearing a packer.
But paraphernalia tomorrow
Dan do you have a favorite Steve Martin movie?
Maybe we could end on a dead man.
Don't wear plaid.
How great is it?
Oh, I love that movie to couple my job Oh,
yeah, yeah Great somers.
Have you seen that dead man?
Don't wear plaid.
I have not but I'm gonna have to make a point to now Start with that one then go to dumb and dumber.
You won't be disappointed.
I'll give you your money back.
All right to be Yeah, that's fun.
Thank you sir for the update
Steve Martin former a staff writer for the Smothers Brothers brothers I admire that man and he was in the room when Mason Williams wrote the song classical gas on his guitar because Mason Williams was a staff writer too Are you serious?
I heard that from Pat Paulson directly from Pat Paulson face-to-face when I interviewed him who was also a staff writer for the Smothers
Brothers That's right, you know
I met him.
Is he the guy that always ran for president?
Yeah, I did meet him.
And he said, you're going to be famous.
I said, why is that?
He said, because everybody that meets me becomes famous.
He was wrong in my case.
Yeah.
We're doing OK, though, Dan.
Thank you, sir.
Appreciate it.
Oh, thanks for having me on.
It's nice being here.
All right, we are coming right back with Mr. Stuart J. Waddles to find out what's going on in southeast Wisconsin.
Talk a little Gordon Lightfoot.
It's Pete Schwabba in Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Oh
my god, I just I want to ask someone to slow dance right now
That's
exciting.
Hey,
welcome back to nightlight.
I'm peach wabba.
That is Gordon
Lightfoot
Not exactly a pick me up, but I will tell you why Mr. Zommer has decided to play Gordon Lightfoot and it's because it has to do with our next guest who I'm about to bring in any moment right now, but first I have to tell you guys
We're doing a ticket giveaway.
I told you about the screening of the Godfather of Green Bay December 4th at the Atwood Music Hall in Madison next Thursday night, a week from Thanksgiving.
It's going to be a great night, and we are giving away tickets.
So if you're in the Madison area and can attend that night, all you have to do is text the keyword, and you can win two free tickets.
Or we're giving away four, right, Summers?
Yeah,
four tickets.
All right.
So...
I almost said half the Brady Bunch could go, but that would mean I'd have to include Alice and Sam.
So, um, we have four tickets to give away.
So if you, and I give the keyword now, right, Zomers?
Yeah.
Just say
it.
Yeah.
And that's, that's for Thursday.
Thursday, the fourth at 7 p.m.
at what music hall is, is the time that you have to be able to make it.
Dora's open at six, film at seven, Q&A with John and Gordy and me afterwards.
It's going to be a really fun night.
Part of the proceeds go to the Dane County Humane Society.
So.
And uh, it's a fun movie to watch.
So the keyword is actor A C T O R A C T O R So if you can go and are interested in checking out the godfather of green bear next Thursday night, text in the keyword and we will take this information Um, and one of our textures just said was that casper?
Yeah, it's making the music was making me cry.
So let's bring in our guests and explain why we went with kind of a
One of my favorite songs, but you could you could say is part of a downer, but I guess it depends on your perspective.
Mr. Stuart J. Waddles joins the show.
Love having Stuart on.
He is our news director in Southeast Wisconsin.
You can also hear him here in Northeast Wisconsin from time to time.
Hey,
buddy.
I thought I was on hold for the Butterball helpline.
I forgot.
I thought I was on your show.
I was
waiting.
I got a different
tab that's open.
They do have that, don't they?
Yeah.
Since you're here, can I start defrosting it now?
What happens?
What kind of turkey catastrophe do you think happened where you have to call a 1-800 number?
I bet there's a virtual
AI chat now from
the fine
people at Butterball.
No kidding.
That is crazy.
I forgot all about that.
That was on the Butterball helpline.
How are you, buddy?
Well, thanks.
How are you doing, bud?
I'm doing very well.
Thank you.
Thanks.
It's always fun having you on.
I especially appreciate it in this five o'clock hour since we've added it because you're kind of tied into southeast Wisconsin and the Milwaukee area.
And I thought we could have a little discussion about some stuff that's going on.
But first, I have to ask you, before we get to that, or Gordon Lightfoot talk or whatever, do you have a favorite Steve Martin movie, Stu?
I was going over this.
I do.
I think it's leap of faith.
I know that's not a good one.
It's not going to be on most people's list, but I've never seen it in a theater when I was young.
So leap of faith.
He was a not of a, not a carny, but he would go from town to town and have a revival.
And they were kind of scamming people through
a
religious deal.
I ran away and again, one of those things that yet one of those core memories, I think it was maybe 12, 13 when that came out, sort of a theater.
That's fantastic.
I'm more
of a
Steve Martin TV guy, though.
I'm looking at his credits.
I'm more of a TV guy for Steve Martin.
His work on the Muppets.
Oh, love it.
Great, great point.
That was kind of raised on King Tut and the whole, you know, that whole bit that he did with that.
And then his work on 30 Rock, he did a bit.
He did an episode of 30 Rock.
He was Gavin Valour.
And he was, he was some sort of a financial guy who was locked up in his own home, but Liz didn't know it.
And so he played a character on that and it was really good.
You know, he's one of those guys, like I'm seeing some of these texts roll in and we'll read those in a little while, but like he did movies you forgot he did or so great.
Like I saw one of the textures said all of me with Lily Tomlin.
I
totally forgot about that movie.
Dirty Rotten Scoundrels is maybe one of my top 20 comedies of all time with Michael Cain.
I don't know if you ever saw that outstanding movie.
What's the one that
was based on Henry Hill?
It's not like a sequel to Goodfellas.
And now it's an escape in my mind,
but he didn't have it.
Yeah.
Oh,
is that my blue heaven?
Yeah, my blue heaven.
Yeah.
Okay.
That wasn't officially the Henry Hill story, but it was Henry Hill in the witness protection program.
Oh, I did not know that.
That's very interesting.
Yeah.
I saw the movie years ago and I still didn't know that.
That's great.
Yeah.
Um, good fellows rewatch recently.
So that's fresh on the mind.
Oh, fantastic.
That's one of those movies.
Good fellows.
I cannot turn it off when it's on and I'm flipping around.
It's on.
It's like, all right, I'm watching at least till the next commercial break.
Probably longer though, to be honest.
Oh, so you're getting a
commercial break.
So you're not getting the good stuff.
Well, I'm saying if I'm flipping around, you know, you don't, you don't flip around.
I only go to Hulu and then Netflix.
Like it's not already
on
in progress.
I guess mostly if I'm at a hotel room, that's where I encounter these kinds of opportunities to watch.
and you're right they're edited so they're not yeah
yeah for one minute you're telling them to go get a shine box the next or at the party you
got
between wait a minute there's
a
blood in here yeah in the trunk when they're in the trunk
what happened to him um so we had uh obviously Thanksgiving is a couple days away Stuart and last nice question what's your favorite side you have a
particular side item or part of the meal you look forward to the most.
It all works together.
It's all, it's all a symphony of food.
And I think each has its own kind of, because usually with my fork, I get a little bit of this and a little bit
of
that and mix some cheesy potatoes with the rice thing.
So it's all good.
My mother-in-law makes some good beans, some baked beans.
Oh,
baked beans.
Nice.
I like that addition.
You know, somebody, I think it was, Zomers was a conrad that texted in last night, he likes
Or maybe it was you.
He mixes the potatoes, like mashed potatoes.
Oh,
that was me,
yeah.
With corn.
Is that, are you the one that does
that?
Oh yeah, that's a fine idea.
But with no
gravy.
Well, maybe you get a little gravy in there in the next bite, but one bite can just be the potatoes and gravy.
Maybe the next one, you invite some corn in there, you know?
I don't know if it's standalone.
It is good to hear.
that I'm not the only one who mixes all the foods on Thanksgiving.
Well, what kind of psycho is there kind of?
No, you get off of there.
I'm not getting you.
I'm pushing you over there.
You stay there green beans.
I'll tell you what my brother is the kind he can't let his food or at least maybe he can now he could never let his food touch and he would have to eat it compartmentally.
Like he couldn't just take, you know, a lot of people go for the stuffing, the potatoes, the turkey, the crayon.
They get all in their mouth at the same time.
And it's like a street fight.
And my brother just had to have it individually, which I always thought was kind of strange.
And you should
get him those paper plates that have the little individual compartments.
Christmas gift for him.
That's how we do it in our house.
It's classy stuff.
So Stuart, I'm so excited that you wanted to talk about Gordon Lightfoot tonight.
But is there anything happening in Southeast Wisconsin we need to know about?
Any big stories going on?
Yeah, there's some heavy stuff going on.
The slender man
thing, you up to speed
on that whole deal?
Well, we talked about it a little bit yesterday.
Is there has there been a new development?
I know that the manhunt was not that long and they they caught him.
But
the Walker
Shaw
County DA came out with some pointed language about the notifications and when they should have happened and when they didn't.
And when the the victim and all of this how they weren't notified for like 12 hours after it was first discovered that.
Bracelet was cut.
So yeah, it's there's some some questions going on about that that that whole deal
What was there any clarification as to how like I heard the bracelet Zomers and I talked about that a little bit yesterday that the bracelet was caught off I don't even know how you do that.
You have to have probably like some kind of industrial fiskers But how did she get out because she was in a home, right?
And I'm wondering how she even got there's no
security guard waiting at the door
I
mean,
from the follow-up interviews that the person who was with her has given, they were saying they were coming in and out the window.
So like it wasn't a security,
it was
like a group home.
So it could have been in like just a neighborhood.
Well, and you figure
there's questions about people in the neighborhood even knew that she was there.
And maybe they don't
deserve to know, but maybe they do.
So there's a lot of questions.
That's crazy.
So you're saying it was an escape like in a bottle rocket when.
Luke Wilson just left, but he snuck out with bedsheets even though it was voluntarily.
Yeah, open the door walk and duck down and get a get a bus ticket.
Do you guys do a does Kenosha Racine do a holiday parade or a Christmas parade?
Scenes got a big
one Kenosha has gotten into the whole holiday spirit with like an official downtown tree lighting.
Um, we're seeing, we're seeing has been a pioneer in this.
They've been doing this for like decades.
They're big, uh, Christmas party.
They did it a couple of weeks ago already.
They're already like two weeks past their holiday.
Okay.
So it's a holiday parade, not just a Christmas parade.
Otherwise that wouldn't
really.
Well, yeah, but what are we doing here?
I mean, it's Christmas time.
It's Christmas and I understand not everybody observes, but it's a tree that's, it's a Christmas tree.
Anyway, Gord.
Oh, very well said.
It's nice to hear your voice up.
You're doing news up here in Green Bay.
And
I know
it's fun to hear you.
I know that I don't hear much of WRJN, but it's nice.
How is that?
Do you have to break up?
Have you broken a big story in Green Bay yet, Stuart?
Connie and I are working very closely, and she kind
of
takes the lead on that.
And I kind of provide ancillary response.
support but she takes the lead on the Green Bay stuff and I do here and the fine folks in Green Bay would hear Connie here in the afternoon.
So we're kind of working things out and sharing the voices.
You guys do such a great job.
It's great.
You got it.
Thank you very much.
That is the voice of Stuart J. Waddles.
You have a voice like when did you know Stuart?
Like because you have one of those voices that's so distinct.
I remember when I first started working for Civic Media and I'm like this guy's got killer pipes like and it helps
when you break a story that's like kind of got some weight to it with your voice.
I know that might, I don't know if you've ever heard that before, but when did you realize I got to do news?
It wasn't so much news.
It was one day realizing I could go Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, monster truck challenge.
So once I honed in on that, I'm like, well, okay, what do I do with that?
And Gateway and Kenosha had a radio program, got into that and just kind of got into radio from there.
Paid some dues, doing promotional stuff.
We'll learn another computer systems work, programming.
And this is doing everything.
Had some accounts.
Oh, nice.
You did it all.
I did it
all.
And then an opportunity came up in the WRJN to focus in on some news.
And I was like the kid getting a USA Today out of the newspaper box and I was eight or nine years old.
So
kind of
kind of worked it all together.
I'm kind of amazed if people like you and I kind of tip my hat like Corey was up here, Corey Hartman.
was up here and he was doing something with you know the equipment and I'm like how do you guys know everything like but it's people like you that started when they were 14 and they know some of the tech stuff some of the news stuff some of the it blows my mind and it's you know fantastic frankly to be surrounded by people like that.
Yeah we had a Commodore 64 in the house and I was little so if I had to play a game I had to know how to run a command line.
So I had to put in CMD slash this slash this CD change directory.
So I was running DOS when I was six or seven years old.
I got really excited when you said that because I thought you said you had the Commodores at your house, which would have been really big
news.
No,
no, I had the Jordanaires.
We're going to take a quick phone call here, Stuart.
I think we have cameras.
Sorry.
Do we have Cindy from Appleton on the phone?
I
am.
Hi, Cindy.
How are you?
Say hello to Stuart Waddles.
Hi, Cindy.
Hi, Stuart.
How are you?
Well, thanks.
How are you?
I'm great.
Thank you.
You've got a big parade
there in
Appleton tonight, don't you?
What's that?
Oh, yeah.
You've got a big parade there in Appleton?
Yeah, we have our big Christmas parade tonight, and that's why I'm getting out of town.
Don't distract her, though, Stuart.
She's calling Night Light and listening to Night Light, so we want to keep her here.
Cindy, what's going on?
Well that event you're having next Thursday in Madison.
I'd love to get there, but unfortunately it's a weeknight I'm wondering if I could talk into doing the same kind of event up here.
Maybe at the Grand Opera House in Oshkosh or the Meyer Theater in Green Bay
Well, that is a great idea Cindy and there is something in the works So I will keep you apprised of that as it gets closer.
I really appreciate that.
Thank you very much All right, Cindy we got to go we're up against the break.
Thank you for the call my friend.
We are coming right back on nightlight
Welcome back.
This is Nightlight.
I am Pete Schwab.
You've got the Civic Media Radio Network.
Ladies and gentlemen, it is a beautiful, I know it's raining, but it's a beautiful night here in Wisconsin.
Stuart, how is the weather in southeast Wisconsin tonight?
A balmy 45 degrees about and dropping.
It's gonna get cold.
It's about 50 right now.
We're getting cold.
There's a wind advisory in effect for tomorrow from the southern part of the state.
Could be some snow coming.
I think you're getting a lot of snow, aren't you?
We're supposed to get some and I hope we don't get too much I have to go pick up my daughter tomorrow and I think it's just supposed to be flurries but Conrad's not here to give me one of his five-day weather forecast, which is just basically him looking out the window and guesstimating so
What's that you guarantees a five-day forecast I'll give you a two I can't give you a five
the kid does not like confidence.
I will
say
that
Can we keep you a little bit past the news?
Would that be okay?
Because I would love to do a deep dive on Gordon, on Gordon Lightfoot a little bit rather than rush it right now.
I think he
deserves it.
Dude, you have no idea how excited I was when you said that you kind of just discovered his music.
Well,
I discovered it, just
I discovered him and the whole story and just all of it.
And it's just very interesting.
That's so great.
I'm excited to talk about that.
We'll do that after the news and act, too.
But I have to tell you, Stuart, what are you watching on TV right now?
Have you happened to catch any of the episodes of All's Fair with Kim Kardashian?
I've not.
I did watch this documentary on Peacock.
Downey wrote it.
You may have seen this one.
Jim Downey.
It's a Jim Downey documentary.
What is it called?
Downey wrote that.
I think it's what it's called.
Downey wrote that.
I have not seen a hour about Saturday night, like Saturday night live and Jim Downey and his impact.
And I get sandlers in it.
Chris rocks in it.
I mean, just anybody who was on Saturday night live coming and telling their, uh, their Jim Downey stories.
I didn't realize how far back he went.
Like I knew he was part of that, uh, the late eighties, early nineties Conan era, but he was part of the early like beginning of Saturday night live.
Yeah.
I know of him.
I did not know about the documentary, though.
I'll definitely check that out.
Was he the guy?
There was a guy Conan O'Brien used to talk about.
Not Conan O'Brien, I'm sorry.
Harold Ramis.
Oh, that was Tom Kenny.
Have you ever heard of that writer?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well.
He was a
comic, too.
Yes.
No.
You're thinking of Tom Kenny, not the guy with the glasses from the
80s.
Oh, that's what I went to.
Doug, I'm sorry.
Doug Kenny, who I think was Stork in Animal House.
Remember
Stork?
Okay.
So he apparently, I could be getting this wrong, but Harold Ramis said that he was always threatening to end his own life, this guy who was tortured but very funny.
And they said, when they found his body in Hawaii, it was either Harold Ramis or Chevy Chase said he probably slipped looking for a place to jump.
because they ruled his death.
Accidental is such a horrible story, but Jim Downey is another one of those legendary Saturday Night Live writers.
I didn't
know he didn't work on Letterman.
Like he got, I don't know if he was fired or he kind of left during that non-Lauren era and he went to work for Letterman for a couple of years.
Yeah, that could be.
Have you seen any of the other, the John Candy documentary I haven't
seen yet?
No, that's on the list.
Same.
I started watching a Gordon Lightfoot documentary instead.
I got caught.
What's that one?
What's that one called?
It's Lightfoot.
It was on Amazon Prime.
It was put out in 2019 while he was still alive.
So there's interviews with him.
Oh, yeah, it doesn't go too deep.
What I don't like is that it's got like bald one in it.
Why?
I don't.
He was a fan and I guess he was a big star.
So if you get maybe somebody who's making a documentary and they want to get more visibility, you put.
Alec Baldwin in it, maybe.
But yeah, there's too much Alec Baldwin, but it's still good.
I mean, I wish you would go a little deeper.
I like the, you know, to me, are you a John Prine fan?
Not so much.
Okay.
I was a fan.
I found one of his YouTube videos.
I crawled down the YouTube rabbit hole one night and sitting on the floor, it was this really cool venue like in Toronto where a singer would perform and everybody sat on the floor.
It was like a very kind of almost had like this hippy vibe.
But, um, Gordon Lightfoot was in the crowd and he was sitting there.
And while John Prine was singing, they cut to Gordon Lightfoot.
He had tears streaming down his face.
And there's something about when one of your heroes, like you just mentioned Letterman, when David Letterman would laugh at something, I just, it's like a knee-jerk reaction.
I would just laugh because I trust him.
It's the same thing with Gordon Lightfoot.
When he was listening to John Prine sing and started bawling,
I was like, that is one of the coolest things ever.
It's obviously one of his favorite Prime songs, but
Gordon Lightfoot.
It's just like a paperback novel.
Sorry.
Huge Lightfoot fan.
We're going to talk all about that.
He's the guy, by the way, that I learned how to play the guitar.
I bought a Gordon Lightfoot songbook.
and just went through it and learned
hundreds
of others, brother.
Oh, man, he has got so many.
He's one of my favorite songwriters.
Stuart J. Wattles is here, folks.
He covers news.
He is the news director in southeast Wisconsin.
You can also hear him here in Green Bay.
Our question of the night is, what is your favorite Steve Martin movie?
Plains, trains and automobiles.
One of my top 10 of all time, a fat free movie on every level, dropped today in 1987.
You know, it's a it's a Thanksgiving staple or just a holiday staple, but it got me thinking and I wanted to ask this question.
What is your favorite Steve Martin movie?
And like I said to Stuart, there there are some we've forgotten about.
Like that's how prolific Steve Martin has been in Little Shop of Horrors, one of the textures.
Oh, that's that's
on my list.
Me too.
Like you're talking about
again.
I totally forgot
about
it.
It's number
one on your list.
I think so.
Yeah.
Okay, Lil' Irv on the stream says, Darren and I just watched The Godfather of Green Bay.
Loved it.
Do you wear a cup for the live scene?
I think he's talking
about it.
Well, we're
waiting.
No judge smells.
I did
not
wear a cup.
We've got another question for Lance from Mike.
I'll save that one.
Lil' Irv says his favorite, Steve Martin movie's Parenthood.
And Sean on the stream says the jerk.
We'll get to the text line in hour number two.
Stuart J. Waddles is here, folks.
We're talking Gordon Lightfoot, and we're going to talk to Edmund Fitzgerald after the news.
So great to have you with me on this Tuesday, a rainy fall Tuesday with Thanksgiving right around the corner.
What could be better?
It's Beachwabbit and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.
This is Night Light with Pete Chwaba.
Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.
And now, a guy who always looks ahead, even when parallel parking.
Pete Chwaba.
Welcome back
tonight, ladies and gentlemen.
We are broadcasting from five to eight tonight to our new time slot, an extra hour.
And it is great to be with you.
And I hope you're having a great week as we get ever closer to Thanksgiving, which is just around the corner.
So much to be thankful for this holiday season.
And that will be...
showcased in my nightlight window fund photo tonight that I will be posting probably during the next break.
Thank you all for being with me.
Aaron Zommers is in tonight for the Kid Conrad Krieger who is on vacation in Florida.
Probably golfing might have the whole family around the radio listening to nightlight if he's a pal.
That is the voice of Aaron Zommers and my current guest is Stuart J. Waddles, who is the news director from southeast Wisconsin.
He has agreed to stay with us a little bit into this hour so we can have a discussion on the Edmund Fitzgerald and Gordon Lightfoot at 635 Lance Barber from Young Sheldon and the Comeback and the Godfather of Green Bay will be here to discuss our really cool screening that we're having next week in Madison on December 4th.
More details on that to come this hour as well.
And then
The hilariously funny stand-up comedian and writer Courtney Cronin-Adult will be here at 7.20 in the third hour.
Zomers, we got some people texting in for the tickets.
Do you have the information you need?
Yeah.
Well, it's all done automatically.
So you can still text in for the whole rest of the show.
So next week, Thursday, December 4th at 7 p.m.
doors open at 6.
Movie starts at 7.
We're going to be screening Pete's movie here in Madison.
The Godfather of Green Bay at Atwood Music Hall.
If you can go and you can get three other friends, family members, perhaps strangers to go with you, you can text in the word actor for your chance to win four tickets.
Actor, A-C-T-O-R.
Very well done, my friend.
So yeah, we've got a good amount of text so far, but you still have a shot.
So please text in and I would love to see you on the fourth.
What else do we cover?
Oh, I talked about how we can't.
I can't ever click out of the ads.
Yes, I can't
find the X or
you
also talked about bombers hadn't seen a dumb and dumber.
That's yes.
Thank you, Stuart.
That needs to be repeated.
Come on,
man.
Yeah.
And I don't want to be one of those guys because I can't stand those guys like you never saw like you're less of a person or something, right?
But I in this case, bombers, it might be true.
Yeah, I know.
I acknowledge that I own that there.
There are some things I haven't seen that I really should.
Hey, me too.
You want to see it, though, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, you're telling me there's a chance.
Yes.
Oh, yes.
And I did get that, at least.
All right.
So to me and I, people have fought me on this.
I think that is a near perfect movie.
The writing is flawless.
It's, and the way I, here's what, here's my theory on the story.
When Jim Carrey is daydreaming that he's charming and he's a really dumb guy, he's daydreaming about being charming the way only a
Idiot's capacity would be for being charming, like lighting his own farts on fire, throwing popcorn in his face.
He's not daydreaming out of his capabilities, I guess.
And that's a testament to the character.
For the writing of the character is that character
is just,
it's perfect.
It's knowing what this guy was about.
It's
like he
had to be based off of somebody.
Oh, great.
It's truly one of my favorite movies.
That is the voice of Stuart J. Wattles.
Do you have a good, what are you going to do this Thanksgiving stew?
Oh, eat some turkey.
Actually, the in-laws make some ham, too.
I hope they make a ham.
They better make a ham.
But yeah,
there's cheesy broccoli casserole.
There's mashed potatoes and gravy.
So that's the in-laws tomorrow, and then we'll meet up with my family on Friday.
Is it a plus or a negative that you live close enough to have two thanksgivings?
Because I remember when my wife and I would always go to Marinette.
And we try to cram everything in.
And there are times I almost thought, I wish we lived far away so we could do our own thing, but as fun as it is.
Yeah, it's a convenient thing, having it.
We usually do it again back to back days.
Thursday, everybody watches football, so that's on in the background.
And then Friday, everybody's looking around like, it's going on, everybody.
Force of conversate.
All right, so before we get to Gordon Lightfoot and the wreck of the evidence Gerald, I promise we'll get there I thought of you when I when I clipped this earlier and it was this is off wise brother media Do these celebrities give you the ick and I'm just gonna name a celebrity stew and you tell me if that celebrity gives you the ick, okay?
Katy Perry Nick.
Oh, okay Chris Pratt No, okay
Jared Lado.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively.
I don't know enough about them to
have an
Ick or a not Ick.
I'm sure they're nice folks, maybe.
So far, I'm a Chris Pratt Ick, a Jared Lado Ick, and to Ryan Reynolds and Lively.
What about you, Zomers?
You got an opinion here?
I think Katie Perry, I'm not, but maybe I just haven't seen enough.
I don't know.
Chris Pratt, I am because, come on, they don't need to make him the lead voice actor in every single kid's movie.
Come on, Mario didn't need to be Chris Pratt.
Shut up, stop it.
He just let someone else have the role.
Jared Leto also, ick.
For a
lot of reasons, right?
Yeah.
Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively, it's...
More complicated like I hate like a lively's character and gossip girl will love to hate her Serena van der Woodson.
She never closes her mouth
My god, I almost didn't ask you and now I'm thrilled.
I did it's not like you did homework like for an exam with these answers.
That's awesome Taylor Swift
Not it she's all right
I find myself when I'm thinking about this, so who do I really don't like and I'm comparing them and it's just, there's other folks.
You
really knew.
Great point.
Justin Timberlake.
He's indifferent.
Again, a lot
of these, I don't care.
I'm exactly, I'm right there with you on Justin Timberlake.
Really no opinion.
Alec Baldwin.
I would love to be a strong Ike on that one.
I would love to be, but I can't.
Like he's too good.
Like his work on Saturday Night Live, 30 Rock, it's too much.
I'm with you, I'm a half.
Too much to overcome.
Shooting some lady in the face.
It's just too much to overcome, Pete.
So there is an Ike
factor.
Right.
Drake.
I don't know enough about him to have an acre or not.
I know people don't like him.
I know he's, but a lot of jokes.
And I know once we get back to our lightfoot conversation, we can bring Drake back into it.
Cause at one point they were neighbors.
Oh
really?
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
They lived close to each other.
I think they hung out.
What?
Yeah.
And this documentary I told you about lightfoot's talking about Drake.
No kidding.
He's a
fan.
He likes his music.
Where are you at with this, Amherst?
Drake does seem to have a bad habit of texting young girls below the age of 18.
He's
not necessarily taking things to a place that is illegal, but you shouldn't have to question that, you know, especially when you're a
celebrity.
Maybe we should watch our words then if it's not illegal sawlers.
We should dial it back and use it.
Let me tell you about the word allegedly.
The word allegedly you toss in there a little bit more and you'll be all right.
We have a newsman here to clarify.
Okay.
Uh, Gwyneth Paltrow.
I'm an Ick.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's, it's a hard Ick.
It's a company called a Goop or
something
like that.
Yes.
Goop.
Nasty.
She, she captured the essence of her private parts and tried to sell it thinking it was that pretty.
So put
on the other hand, you know what, what about all the people buying that stuff?
Ick.
Yeah, that's Ick.
So same people buying Sydney Sweeney soap.
So there you go.
And then this is funny, Dan, Dan Marcus printed this up for me and he said, I left you a surprise in there.
And I forgot what he had said.
And then it says, Pete Schwabba.
And then the quote next to it is, shut up Conrad.
I don't know what Dan was going for.
But I'm like, how did this get into Wise Brother?
And then I remember Dan was playing a joke on me.
All right, my guess is Stuart J. Waddles, as promised, Stuart just, well, you didn't discover Gordon Lightfoot, but the Edmund Fitzgerald and some of his music, right, Stu?
Well, the anniversary came and it was playing like it always does every year this time of year.
And then he started thinking about it.
And then you think, well, this guy had a big career.
What kind of madman is writing a song about a chipwreck and then has the gall to release it to the general public?
And then it becomes a hit.
So that got me curious about how did that whole thing happen?
and it just he he read a newsweek article about the wreck of the admin Fitzgerald first couple lines he didn't steal them but he used them as inspiration so this newsweek article maybe like two paragraphs long the song ends up beating like three times as long as the article he based it on it's just very strange
how it
all came about and it got me interested in like this guy so then he started watching live video of him and he's got some he's got a weird effect when he sings no it's
like
yeah
There's the extra s and it might be because he's a professional, like he was trained to hit the s and vibrato and it's just again a very strange situation with this whole song and how it came about.
And I don't know
if he was
already a big star at the time.
Yeah, correct.
And I don't, he had written a lot of hits for Peter, Paul and Mary.
Um,
Yeah, and it could be part of his Canadian dealio working its way in there, but I agree.
He's got a, but I think that works for him as a singer.
And you're right.
You sent me information earlier.
The wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald, when it came out, made it to number two on the Billboard chart.
It's almost seven minutes long.
It's not a radio friendly song.
And then the other bit of information you shared, I'll let you break that to our listeners because you're the reporter is even cooler.
It made it even higher on the charts.
Yeah, it popped up where it was this parade article.
Yeah, nearly a half a century after its first release, it claimed a number one spot on Billboard, topped the rock digital song sales chart for the week ending November 13th, also charting if you could read my mind and sundown.
So it's just not limited to that one song.
And again, I've been going through this for the past couple of weeks.
My wife really thinks I have a think I have a problem with light foot because all I'm talking about is light foot.
Quote in whitefoot lyrics and then I read this about everybody else doing the same thing So it's like all right little reassuring telling my wife you're the one that's on the outs.
You don't get it
No, I went down that rabbit hole years and years ago with Gordon life I grew up that that's all my aunts and uncles listen to was Jim Croci lightfoot some John Prine all that stuff and I fell in love with his music I think he's one of the best songwriters one of my favorite
songs of his is early morning rain which peter paul and mary did beautifully but i like his version even better in fact there's a line in the song that says out on runway just about a guy trying to get
home
big 707 set to go and when i heard runway number nine sometimes i'd be on a plane and
They come over and they'd say, we'll be landing at runway 12.
And I would turn to the person next to me.
Oh, God, I hate runway 12.
And, you know, they don't know me.
Like, what's the story?
What's going on?
It's not my favorite runway.
But people, you know, my favorites.
But you shared a couple of tunes with me.
Zomers, let's play.
What do you want to, let's hear just a little bit.
I don't know.
You played, if you could read my mind earlier, it's kind of a downer though, but the lyrics on that one.
And just you go through it.
It's like, who is this guy writing this stuff?
And it's just it reads like a poem.
And there's times where again, I just shout out like like a paperback novel, like an old time movie.
But yeah, it's it's that's a great song.
Sundown is so good.
The other thing about the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald.
So the song that you know that you love that everybody hears all the time, that was the first take.
They played through it like whoa.
Kind of a little bit noodling around a little bit.
And I guess according to the stories, Gordon didn't want to even perform it.
He didn't want to put it on the album, but they had some extra time in the studio at the end of the week.
He had booked the time and they said, hey, Gord, let's run through it.
So they run through it a couple of times.
The first take they ended up using as the one they distributed.
They did three or four more, but Gord said, yeah, the first one, that's it.
We're doing
it.
That's very cool.
That is
crazy.
And it's even more amazing.
Put this song on and put the headphones on.
Yeah,
I agree.
All right.
I want to talk to you about, uh, if you could read my mind, we'll do that.
We'll have a couple more minutes of Stuart after this very short break.
Don't go anywhere, folks.
It's Peach Waba in Nightlight.
Oh, this is great.
Keep going.
That is great.
Welcome back to Nightlight.
I'm Pete Schwabber.
That is a really cool version of the Edmund Fitzgerald.
Kind of a lounge.
That's like Bill Murray would do that on Saturday Night Live.
That's
Nick Tiz,
right?
Yes.
Richard
Tiz?
Yeah.
I had never heard of that before today, and I sent it to Xamarin.
It never heard that before.
It's so great.
Richard.
Yeah.
Go ahead, Zomers.
He has a lot of stuff like that where he takes songs that are very, I'll say, you know, about delicate subjects or very angry songs or very sad songs.
And then he'll perform them like that, such as Rape Me by Nirvana.
And he starts it off by saying, this one's for the ladies.
And like it's just kind of like the Dan band.
Right.
That's
like.
My name is Luca.
I live on the second floor.
But it's like top-notch swing professionals.
They're like really real
musicians and it's a great interpretation.
Oh, it's so great.
Stuart Wattles is here just for a couple more minutes.
I promise we're going to let him get on with this evening here.
Stuart, Terry Barr, our pal, said, hey, where did Gordon Lightfoot write it?
This is something, a stream comment she wrote in.
She said, people have often claimed Madison, but I haven't found that info.
Then she says, and after seeing the documentary, the same one you saw, I assume, she says, the song takes on a new meaning.
Stuart, I am re-obsessed.
Yeah, he's running
in
the Toronto apartment.
That's what I kept coming across when I was looking up and researching it.
I want to say, this is one, if you could read my mind, there's a, I'll send you this link later.
There's a version of him doing that song when he's like, I think he was 73 at the time.
And you can look his fingers like don't quite.
Get the chords as much he has a little bit of a I think he had Parkinson's He has long hair his face looks so weathered and it's so beautiful like he's just this guy this troubadour this like he's the guy he's always Saying about and he did that version of that song if you could read my mind and it's so beautiful I'll send that to you, but he said he changed the lyric because of his daughter Yeah, the lyric used to be the feeling that you lack he changed that because
his daughter said, you know, dad, that sounds kind of sexist.
So he changed it and he said the feeling that we lack.
I thought that was really cool about a guy just evolving, you know.
Yeah.
And to take that in and just, I think about the daughter who's processing this all, like the daughter rears the song and listens to it all.
And then like has to, has comfortable enough to say, Hey dad, what about this?
Not just shy away.
So there's like, there's this extremely emotional song that kind of gets taken to another level when you hear a little nugget like that.
He also put some words in the wreck.
Some of the families were upset about some of the hatches weren't closed properly and he changed them regarding that.
Also, it turned from a musty old hall into a rustic old hall because the people at the Detroit Maritime Museum said, hey, it's not so musty.
Oh, wow.
That's cool.
Was that in the
documentary or just some research
you did?
It might have been just in some research.
But it's even love that.
The other thing about that Detroit thing is that there just happened to be a reporter for like the LA Times walking by that church in Detroit at that moment when the bells are ringing.
because of that tragedy.
That guy goes and writes an article.
It gets back and published somewhere.
Gordon Lightfoot reads that to add to his story.
So just because some writer happened to be walking by this church and it's ringing 29 times, that gets back to the song.
And it's just a lot of happenstance.
It makes it very interesting.
Very interesting.
And maybe you know the answer to this based on the research you did.
But years and years ago, I remember hearing that
that Lake Superior, these sailors in the Great Lakes sometimes have to be more skilled than the ocean because the Great Lakes, apparently what happened, or one theory, is that the Edmund Fitzgerald went up so high on a wave.
It came down and cracked in two on the lake bed on the floor of the lake.
Is that sound
right?
That's that's Fox six in Milwaukee did for this anniversary put out a documentary.
So that was kind of just more of the shipwreck end of things.
But that's one of the things that's postulated.
There's also a theory that they ran a ground on some shoals that were around one of the islands there.
that the other ship that was accompanying it didn't hit it, but they thought that this one, they might have hit this, which caused the leak.
If you do want to watch that documentary that Stuart mentioned, the one on Fox six, it is available on YouTube for free.
Yeah.
I think it's called deals in November.
I think it's correct.
That's awesome.
uh steward thank you thank you for hanging in there with me uh long enough to get to this topic i had a lot i wanted to talk to you about so i really appreciate your time tonight and
thanks for having me on i'm glad you're on in drive time
yeah have a great thanksgiving buddy and uh hide of the family and keep up the great work here at civic media it's outstanding thanks bud take care see you zomers we got it adios oh it's steward jowatt i'll check out his work if you're in southeast wisconsin on w rjn or here in northeast wisconsin you can hear him on w gbw
Doing the news and breaking all the stories that we need to know about.
Great stuff.
Lance Barber will be here in just a few minutes.
He is famously, he played young Sheldon's dad.
What a great role.
So he was also on the comeback.
He's done a Christopher Guest movie and he was in the Godfather Green Bay, which we'll play next week.
And we'll talk about his time on the set.
We had a great time.
He still calls me balls.
I don't really, I've just learned to accept it.
But we'll have Lance on in just a few minutes and then Courtney Cron and doled We'll be here at 720.
Let's bang out a couple of these stream comment summers.
What do you say?
We got little Irv says love scene.
I don't know what he's talking about there Steve I bet it might be from the jerk because he learned what his special purpose was
Gotcha.
The first time.
I think that's what Lil' Irv is talking about.
Sydney Politics says, every time you single out people in the question of the day, I think they passed away.
Sorry, Sydney.
No, we do that all the time.
Someone's got a big enough body of work where we can just make the question about them and what is your favorite work of theirs?
That's kind of what we do.
Sydney says, thank goodness I was wrong.
Cheaper by the dozen.
Great one.
Sydney Politics says, you're right, Dave.
All right, we are coming right back with Lance Barber.
After the news, it's Pete Schwabba and Nightlight.
Great to have you with me on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Welcome back.
It is a beautiful balmy rainy night here in the state of Wisconsin as we broadcast statewide from gorgeous downtown Green Bay.
Thanksgiving right around the corner, folks.
Life is good and it is great to have you here as we talk about the things in life that make us happy, like movies, TV, comedy, music.
Stuart J. Waddell's love of Gordon Lightfoot.
And now we turn our attention
to a good friend of mine who I just think the world of this guy he is one of our favorites here he was the star of one of the stars of young Sheldon the comeback with Lisa Kudrow and of course the godfather of Green Bay Mr. Lance Barber hey buddy hi everybody gobble
gobble
it's good to hear your voice hi how are you tonight
nice to hear you too I well how are you my friend
doing great I understand you are you're taking the crime
the tribe across countries.
Is this a Griswold family type trip or what's happened?
This is our annual nightmare.
It is really playing out as it should be.
Somebody's got to get sick and then the weather has to be really horrendous as this storm approaches across the southwest portion of the Great Lakes area.
Oh, wow.
We'll see how we fare.
But, um... All right.
No, it's wonderful.
It's wonderful.
We're all... We're lucky to be home with family every year, and we still get to do that and always
have.
Good sweet old Michigan.
That's awesome, buddy.
It's great to hear your voice.
Say, Lance, do you have a favorite Steve Martin movie?
I really love The Man With Two Brains.
Oh, dude, that was my
runner-up.
Was that your runner-up?
It was.
Well, I went
with Plain Strings and I'm going
to be honest with you.
I barely remember the man with two brains.
That was that was that was a joke thinking it might get a laugh from you.
I
barely remember
that movie.
And I remember it, but it's definitely not my favorite.
I mean, I think I love Plain Strings.
Everybody does.
But the performance there, the whole movie as a whole is just so funny and moving in the whole thing.
And I love seeing Steve Martin play an uptight guy, you know, as
opposed to a wild and
crazy guy.
Absolutely.
Yeah, he's good.
Yeah,
yeah.
Great answer, buddy.
So let's jump in.
I think I gave you some details.
We're having a screening of The Godfather of Green Bay a week from Thanksgiving, December 4th at the Atwood Music Hall, this brand new beautiful facility in Madison.
It's for part of the proceeds go to the Dane County Humane Society, and it was a co-worker's idea.
And I said, sure, let's do it.
So that's why I wanted to have you on I just wanted to kind of jump back and take you down memory lane a little bit and You know talk for a few minutes about the godfather of Green Bay as well as a few other things you have going on So it's great to have you here
Nice to be here, and I'm glad that you're using that wonderful movie for such a good things.
So yeah
I wish I could be, if I was still in the Great Lakes next week, I'd come join you and watch.
Well, it's funny you say that because remember, I was a guest on the show Directors Cut, which I ended up hosting, taking over the hosting gig when the other hosts stepped down.
You drove up, I think from Chicago, and we're on the show with me, and we got to walk around State Street a little bit, so I have great memories of you hanging out in Madison with me.
It was a lot of fun.
that's awesome
What what are your overall thoughts?
I remember when we cast you in that movie, it was so much fun.
And we had looked at all these these probably read 50 actors for that role of Kenny Caruso.
And you came in and we had a meeting that night.
And I wanted I thought you were my favorite by far.
And the other two producers jumped in and said you were on another level.
And you were, you were so good Lance.
And I just, it was so much fun having you on the set.
You were as much fun off camera as you were on and you just brought great energy.
So to this day, I'm thankful we found you.
Well, I'm just a really terrific human being.
You know, there's something about me is what they say.
There's something about him.
And I can't put my finger on it.
It doesn't have a name, perhaps, but I'm just exceptional in regards to
anyone else in the human race so you lucked out getting me kid i
wouldn't phrase like that but i agree
oh no oh thank you
uh that was
very i
absolutely
i appreciate the heapings on i i was i remember the audition well because i remember you and i remember you being familiar
And I have a couple of other friends who I'm tight with who I met in LA, but they were actually Midwestern guys.
And the culture and the sensibilities and the sense of humor were familiar to me.
And it felt, and it was just that natural thing.
We hit it off because.
And of course, knowing what the subject matter was, the comedy at the time of the movie, and it being having something to do with the Great Lakes Midwest area, where we're both from,
um was appealing and so like such a I remember being so excited to get that job just because it was a job and I had nothing I had nothing at the time and uh and then it was a job that was uh gonna take me home so to speak you know and uh and we went home and again to that familiarity going back to where we shot in uh Marinette and uh
up in that whole area was, again, just so familiar, so comfortable in regards to the culture of the people and then to be with that wacky group of folks
was
a ball.
I recently, one of the memories was being in the parking lot and seeing the Northern Lights for the first time one evening.
Do you recall this?
Yeah.
I do.
That was one of the few things I was part of because typically I was so tired I went back to my parents' place where I was staying and crashed.
But that night, I missed out on a lot of fun, but that night I was there and that was spectacular.
Yeah, that was a really cool memory.
We all just gathered and quietly watched in the parking lot of the bar that we shot in.
And this summer I took my kids up over, we had a family reunion in northern Wisconsin.
We drove
up over the
UP and went through that area.
And so I had a lot of nostalgia and tried to show them.
We actually went through there and I couldn't find the bar, but it
burned down.
It burned down.
Yeah, it was one of the very mysterious, the amount of bars.
in the Marinette Menominee area that are subject to fire when business starts to slow down.
I can't explain it, but that one bit the dust,
unfortunately.
That's
such great stuff.
Thank you for saying all that because it kind of is bringing me down memory lane too.
And I loved, you know, one of the coolest things that I knew we cast the right guy because, you know,
That was my first big role like that and it was great having you there to not only kind of carry me through the movie but also to say off-screen people are like oh you guys go way back, huh?
And I was like no we just met like we cast Lance he we were not friends We just found Lance through the casting process So I felt like we had made a really good choice when people said that kind of stuff because I thought we had good chemistry which was fun
I agree people said the same to me.
Yes, and it was that familiarity thing.
I think yeah, we made each other laugh.
Yeah
Absolutely.
My guest is Lance Barber.
He is one of the stars of, yes, the Godfather of Green Bay, but also a young Sheldon where he played George Cooper, a young Sheldon's father.
And you can look for Lance on the reboot of the comeback.
Lance, I've got a question here from one of the cast members of the Godfather of Green Bay, Mike Desetel.
Says, uh, questions for Lance.
Any chance you'll make an appearance in George and Mandy's first marriage?
Would you be up for a sequel to the Godfather of Green Bay?
I think you're one of the all-time great TV dads.
Can you share the story of how you appeared at your funeral in Young Sheldon?
You could do that, Lance, if you're willing.
I mean, Mike,
just
load it.
Just that, that one's... How much time
do we
have?
We'd have to make this a mini-series.
Why don't you pick the question you want to answer?
The George and Mandy's first marriage or the sequel of The Godfather of Green Bay?
I already did a Georgian-Mandy thing in the first season.
It's probably the only one I'll do.
And they invited me back for a dream sequence, which I thought was the most smart touching way to revisit George.
Otherwise, it feels shark-jumpy and unnecessary.
So I was happy to do that.
And that'll probably be that.
I would love to
So let's get down.
I don't know about that.
Dude, you said something so funny.
Oh, go ahead, Lance.
Sorry.
No, no, I don't remember what I was saying.
Go
ahead.
Mike Siegel, a friend of ours, and one of my best friends did a behind-the-scenes look at the Godfather of Green Bay.
It's out there on YouTube.
I think you could just Google behind-the-scenes Godfather of Green Bay.
It's a 20-minute YouTube video where he interviewed Tony Goldman, and Lauren Holly, and Eric Price, and Steve Siegelman, and you, and you said...
He said, what do you think of Pete's directing abilities?
And you said, I think Pete's got a very bright future.
Not directing, of course, but it was just a beautiful moment.
And into that thing where all we did was break each other up.
It was so much fun.
And I'm indebted to Mike for making that video because it was great.
But were you amazed?
Honestly, I haven't been on a ton of movie sets, Lance, but the amount of people, the amount of comedians we had.
between you, Lennon, Eric Price, Steve Seager, Mike Seager, Mike Toomey, Jimmy Pardo, Rob Martin, all these guys.
I've never been around that much funny.
And to this day, I still haven't.
Now you've been in some really big projects.
You could probably talk differently to that, but we had a really talented group, didn't we?
Oh, it was unbelievable.
It was literally a laugh riot.
And it was different than you might find in a club or whatever.
But we were all there.
together doing this thing.
And it was it was just destined to be fun.
Right.
Yeah.
And in that with with that setting and with that company that you just listed was just I smile at the at the memory of it.
I smile and laugh at a lot of things that we won't share on this radio show of things that were indelible in my mind of making me laugh to like ride and hard not to in that company.
So
Yeah, I mean, it sets in such a great place in my, especially being so young in my career.
It was just the perfect job with the perfect people.
It really was.
It was so much fun.
And I don't imagine, for myriad reasons, that you just, some of it had to do with youth and all of the other things of it being kind of a, let's get the gang together to do a show on the barn field, you know what I mean?
Being an independent thing.
And I don't know if I'll be a part of something that was that kind of fun again.
It was the perfect store for that kind of
fun.
It absolutely was.
And I want to share Tom Lennon was on the show last night talking about the screening next week.
And I pointed out a scene that he had kind of forgotten about.
Was he and Tracy Thorpe in a booth at closing time?
and he asked if he could touch your boobs and she said no and then she looked at her watch a minute later like the scene plays on beautifully but we have another that booth was so special because you and me and Steve Sieger and Lauren Holly probably Lenin and Tracy Thorper in that booth and Eric Price came
walking over.
His name, his character name was Ratboy, but I don't think we ever said that during the movie.
But you knew it and he's shaking his butt.
Yeah.
And you would probably just had a shot and he said, Hey, Rat, and you're, you're laughing before you could even get the line out.
It was such a beautiful moment of the hysterics we were in.
My guest is Lance Barber.
We're going to do a really short break, and then we'll keep Lance just for a couple more minutes.
He's taking the tribe cross country, or at least through Michigan, but he's here on Nightlight tonight, and we'll be right back with a couple more minutes with Lance Barber on Nightlight with Pete Schwab on the Civic Media Radio Network.
All right, welcome back.
I'm Pete Schwab, but this is Nightlight.
That is Jim Croci.
My current guest Lance Barber and I sort of have a, I don't know, you call it a man crush Lance in the most innocent way possible on Jim Croci?
Oh no, it's more than that, but you can, you know, you say what you have to, but I'm in love with
it.
Lance digs him in the big way.
Yeah, we both do.
It was fun.
You I remember you played your guitar during a break and you played that song and it's always stayed with me.
Just a great memory from the set.
But I also tried to get Kurt Newman of the Bodines to come to Madison, who they did such a great job with the soundtrack and Kurt wrote that score.
But he was touring and all that.
So I thought my second my second vote would be get if we had the budget, I would get Lance Barber there to play the guitar and warm people up for the audience because that was a really fun memory.
Not
even joking.
I would do
it, but you don't have the budget.
I don't have the
budget.
I'll give you airfare and a per diem to get you to Madison to play three songs.
Lance Barber is here from Young Sheldon and the comeback.
Lance, tell us about the comeback.
Is there's a reboot, I guess?
That's none of your
business.
It's a third season of the comeback and I have a little bit to do with it.
I was on the first two seasons and it's a span of 20 years for three seasons of a show.
It's got a really neat, I think, place in TV history.
It was a fun show for me to be a part of.
brought
to
get back and be a part of the third one in a small way.
But they finished shooting
and it
comes out next year sometime in the spring.
So I'm really excited about it just because you know, the legacy of the show and
the
character a lot.
It's a great show.
Definitely check out the show and check out Lance's work in it.
Lance, Lauren Holly is going to be on the show next week.
Do you have a message I could I could relate to Lauren?
other than you know say
yeah tell her hey balls i
uh hey she got in on that she called herself balls three
yeah she did
three yeah which sounds strange but yeah no she and oh by the way tom lennon was on last night and when he heard we played your tag coming back from a break you said you're listening to nightlight with pete schwa balls
and uh when tom heard that he wanted to recut his so he said schwa balls too which is apparently the new way to pronounce my last name which is fine with me which
is that's amazing now
my my question is uh and you have said that or it has been said by a listener that you must have a wet mouth to pronounce the correct to correctly pronounce schwa but but what about schwa balls
schwa balls you don't have to wet your lips before you say
No, you don't have to wet your lips before you say it, but they'll be wet after, so.
Classic barber.
Dude, this was fun.
Thank you for taking the time, Lance.
Get back to your family.
Have a great Thanksgiving.
I miss you, pal, and I love you.
Happy
Thanksgiving to you and Lauren Holly and everybody else, and always good to talk to you, Pete, and I'll
talk to you soon.
You got it.
All right, Lance Barber, everybody.
Check out his work on the comeback on Young Sheldon.
And you can see his work next Thursday night, December 4th at the Atwood Music Hall.
He is part of the cast of The Godfather of Green Bay and an integral part, very funny and just a huge fan.
So great to talk to Lance.
Courtney Cronin-Dole, ladies and gentlemen, is coming up at 7.20.
Very funny comedian and writer.
I had the pleasure of working with Courtney on Sports Soup on the writing staff.
And just love her.
So she's great.
We're going to read some text.
How are we doing on time, Erin?
Can I get three minutes?
Are we way behind?
On text?
I don't believe so.
OK, good.
We've got a call.
All right.
Craig Kinit on the stream says, I love Steve Martin.
His comedies are classic, The Jerk, Plains, Trains, and Automobiles, Three Amigos, Roxanne.
But my favorite is more of a drama, parenthood.
That film brings me to tears.
Well done, Craig.
Thank you, sir.
Appreciate that.
Great to hear from you, Craig.
Craig had a great showing of his film, Daniel Needs to Leave, in Waiwiga last week, or two weeks ago now.
Great fun.
A lot of fun in his film Crushed.
Terry Ryan in the 414 says, Dirty Rotten Scoundrels.
Yes, Terry, I am totally with you.
In fact, that's probably my second favorite Steve Martin movie.
Absolutely love Dirty Rotten Scoundrels with Michael Cain.
It might be Steve Martin's funniest performance, because like Lance said, Steve Martin is like, you know, plays uptight really well, but man, he plays just a goofball in Dirty Rotten Scoundrels.
And he's great.
Jim from Brookfield in the 262 says, Good evening, Pete.
Father of the Bride is my favorite Steve Martin movie.
It has a good storyline with lots of humor.
As a father of two daughters, I can relate to it.
Well, that's why we love movies, right, Jim?
That's outstanding.
Thank you, buddy, for the text.
Appreciate that.
Brett from Brown Deer says, planes, trains, and automobiles is his best.
But if I had to pick another, I would choose Sergeant Bilko.
I've never seen Sergeant Bilko.
Somers, that's my Dumb and Dumber.
Is it?
I feel like it's not quite as, uh, probably not.
Not as many people have seen that as Dumb and Dumber.
You're probably right about that.
Oh, Dumb and Dumber crushed at the
box office.
1994, baby.
John Murray from Madison in the 608 says the jerk was my fave Steve Martin flick remember his dog We can't say his dog's name on TV.
Let's call it on the radio.
Let's call him crap head for lack of a better I think you guys can figure out what Steve Martin's dog.
Yeah, but the jerk was great That was like one of those movies.
I saw I was probably like in seventh grade or whatever It's like man, I don't know if I should be watching this like there's a lot of like sex stuff and but it was very funny
Yeah, I saw parenthood fairly young, and there are also moments in that one that are not suitable for children.
In parenthood?
I don't remember
what they
were, but I remember my mom being like, let's not watch this anymore.
I don't know, kidding.
John continues and says, my God, Plains Trains is a close second.
I fell in love with Steve's first album first.
What a great entertainer.
Totally agree, John Murray from Madison.
We are coming right back.
The keyword is actor, A-C-T-O-R.
If you want to win free tickets to the Godfather of Green Bay Screening next Thursday night in Madison, we're coming right back.
It's Pete Schwabba and Nightlight.
Act 3 is next.
Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.
This is Night Light with Pete Chwaba.
Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.
And now, a guy who appreciates a nice hot meal at a fair price.
Pete Chwaba.
Welcome back
to Night Light, ladies and gentlemen.
It is time for Act 3 on this Tuesday before Thanksgiving episode version, whatever you want to call it, of Nightlight.
I am Pete Chihuahua and it is so, I just love that you're here.
We're building up to Thanksgiving.
What is more fun than a major holiday right around the corner?
We have the anticipation sometimes of children.
If you're hurting this holiday season though, I hate to hear that and please reach out to a loved one.
and try to find something to be grateful for, if nothing else, that there are people in your life who love you.
So I hope everyone has a great Thanksgiving.
I will be off Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and back live on the air on Monday, again, with Mr. Aaron Sommers.
How are you, sir?
Doing
well.
Glad to be here.
And looking forward to Monday as well.
It's always fun being on Nightlight with Pete Schwala.
Dude, it is awesome having you and thank you for filling in for the K-man who is on vacation in Florida We've had a great show so far.
It's been a lot of fun talking to our pal Stuart J waddles the civic media newsman We talked about the Edmund Fitzgerald a little bit with Stuart and then my pal Lance Barbara came on of young Sheldon fame and The comeback and season three of the comeback will be on shortly check your local listings
Actually, did he say one that's coming on?
I don't
remember if he did.
Yeah.
But I think it's worth a Google.
Great show.
Very funny show and Lance can be seen in the Godfather of Green Bay, which we are screening next week in Madison.
I'll give you some more information on that.
How are we doing on the free tickets?
Do we, I know we had quite a few texts.
I hope they're, are they gone?
There's, it will not decide until after the show because you can still text in, you still have a chance till the end of the show tonight.
Give them that screen name, please my friend
the
name and the the keyword if you will
Yeah, if you got if any of you are listening and you can make it next week Thursday to the screening of the godfather green in Green Bay the godfather of Green Bay the screening is not The screening is in Madison at Atwood music hall doors open at six movie starts at seven you can Hang out with Pete Schwabba or at least ask him some questions And the keyword to text in on the civic media app for four tickets is actor
ACTOR actor for your chance to win four tickets to the screening next week.
Otherwise, they're not too expensive tickets.
If you don't win, you should still show up.
It's 10 bucks, I believe.
10 bucks and part of the proceeds go to the Dane County Humane Society.
So it's for a great cause.
John and Gordy will be there.
My civic media, older brothers, they're going to introduce me.
They're going to host a Q&A afterwards.
The music was by the Bo Deans.
This is a total Wisconsin movie.
We shot it in northeast Wisconsin Years and years ago 20 years ago now a little over 20 years and the film came out and was in blockbuster and all the video stores We had a great run It's kind of a cult classic I would say that's what other people tell me it is so I can live with that but Lauren Holly Tony Goldman Lance Barbara Tom Lennon me
Eric Price from Milwaukee, Rob Martin from Milwaukee, Steve Seager, Mike Siegel, Jimmy Parto, great cast and a really fun, feel good movie.
The perfect way to kick off the holidays and music by the Baudinians.
It should be a really fun evening in Madison next Thursday night.
So we've got people, we'll give the tickets too if you want to text in.
The keyword is actor, A-C-T-O-R, as Zommer's just told you.
And it was really fun to talk to Lance Barber.
Courtney Cronin-Dold will be coming up in about 10 minutes.
She's a very funny comedian.
And I was part of a staff with her, a writing staff at Sportsoup on Comcast years ago.
We had a lot of fun working on that show together.
Matt Eisman was the host.
Courtney's a very funny comic as well.
So that will be fun to catch up with Courtney.
And what am I missing, Zomers?
Am I missing something?
I feel like I've got more information for the people.
I do.
Next Tuesday, folks, is Giving Tuesday.
Are
you
going to give, Zomers?
I don't know.
I honestly...
I know it's been around for a long time, but I'm not too familiar with Giving Tuesday.
This is not just me saying it, so you'll explain it to the listeners.
I legitimately am not super familiar with it.
You set me up.
Well, Civic Media believes this is a special impactful and essential day.
Our stations across the state will be highlighting and raising money for local organizations.
It's all about local folks and making a difference.
Listen to civic media throughout the day on December 2nd and learn how you can support your community.
That is next Tuesday We also have a text-to-win contest coming up here at civic media one of our really fun multi-state text-to-win Contests that starts Monday December 1st.
So we'll have all kinds of information Great prizes went up to $200 a day and some big they were calling them adult prizes And I didn't know what to make of that at the meeting summers.
It sounded like it was sort of an adult
Weird thing, but it's not.
They're just like prizes for big people, right?
Right.
Yeah, that's that's my understanding at least Nothing weird.
The only thing is you have to have the civic media app to play so make sure you have that by Monday folks and we will be off to the races Our question of the night still got an hour of show left here before we tick our little Thanksgiving break is what is your favorite Steve Martin movie planes trains and automobiles was released on this day in 1987 Tyler in the 608 says the dentist
In the movie, the little shop of horrors.
Bill Murray loved his gentle touch.
That is such a great movie.
Another one of the great Steve Martin roles you kind of forget about.
Rick Moranis was hilarious in it.
Jim from Kenosha in the 262 says, I think it was called the sign where he talked to the road sign.
The sign where he talked to the road sign.
Did I miss part of this text, Somers?
I want to get it right.
I don't know.
I'm
going to take a look and see if I can find what he's talking about.
Jim
and Justice here.
Yeah, a text back, Jim, if you want to clarify.
But thank you for the text.
I think it might be LA Story, the signpost.
Oh, LA
Story, yeah.
Did he already text that?
Did I miss that?
Sorry about that, Jim.
LA Story is a great satire about living in LA.
It's kind of funny.
Sarah Jessica Parker is in it.
And I do remember there was one line where Steve Martin
They were kind of starting to kiss and get it on a little bit and he says your breasts feel really strange and she says oh, they're real So it's a nice poke Pokes fun at LA very nice good movie Harry from Tosa in the 414 says all of me with Lily Tomlin Great one.
That's the second time we've heard all of me.
I think tonight Jim from the 920 here in Appleton says favorite movie
Hmm.
Well, my favorite part was Maxwell of Silver Hammer fame and Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club band.
The movie is probably Roxanne.
Okay.
Roxanne is another one I forgot about, and I just rewatched that like three years ago.
That's a really funny Steve Martin movie, and it kind of holds up.
It's slightly dated, but Daryl Hanna plays his love interest, and it's a satire of Cyrano de Bergerac.
Great movie, and a really great 1980s movie.
Chris Casper.
Oh, I wish I'd seen this earlier.
He says some Gordon Lightfoot.
I cannot tell you how much I love that song.
It makes me cry every damn time.
So thanks for making me cry, Pete.
It's nice to make Casper cry for something that does not have to do with engineering because I pester the living daylights out of him.
I'm sure he's cried himself to sleep with Schwabba requests.
So I'm happy to make you cry in a different way, Chris.
Great to hear from you, buddy.
Where are we here Janet from Madison LA story?
Probably because I was living in LA at the time it came out and it was enjoyable to actually get all of the inside jokes totally with you that was before I moved to LA Janet and I you're right once I moved out there so much more about that made sense same thing with the big Lebowski sort of You still have time folks if you want to text in what is your favorite Steve Martin movie?
That is our question of the night here
Melissa from the 608 says dirty rotten scoundrels.
Totally with you, Melissa.
Love that movie.
As I said before, it's probably my second favorite Steve Martin movie.
Thank you for the text.
From the 818, our pal Bridget says planes, trains, and automobiles.
Such a great story.
Great holiday movie.
Love the music and acting, of course.
Zomers, that's the second time you played a couple songs from that soundtrack.
And it has a very underrated soundtrack.
It does.
There's just
so many parts of that movie that impress themselves on your brain, and you don't forget.
And the music is one of
them.
That's a great point, and you're absolutely right.
I remember the first time I saw that movie, I was in my dorm room at DePaul University, and I laughed hysterically.
John from the 608 RPEL, John Murray, says, hate to say it, and it won't be popular, but it's time for Wisconsin to adopt the DUI test that Dr.
Oh, Mel Mahay went through in The Man with Two Brains.
No more getting 11 of them in a lifetime.
That's hilarious.
And you're very right.
And I thought Lance Barber said The Man with Two Brains and he was joking, but I love that movie.
And there are some great lines in it.
And I don't know if you remember this, John.
His name was Dr. No, his name was Dr. Michael Afar.
Afar.
You had to say it like that.
And then when they're...
The interviewer said, how's that spelled?
And he's like, just like it sounds F-A-F-U-H-U-H-U-H-U-R.
And his love interest was Ann Oll Melmahay.
That's so goofy and so Steve Martin.
Maybe that movie captures the essence of Steve Martin better than any other, whether it's the best movie or not, who knows.
Do we have Olly, Erin?
Yeah, we do have Olly.
Oh, we have Olly from the Northwoods.
Hello, Olly.
Good evening.
Hi Pete.
I actually don't know anything about Steve Martin's movies.
Oh
wow.
I worked all my life so I didn't get to really watch movies.
I don't have TV so I still don't get to watch movies.
But I did want to, after I talked to you last night, then you got to talking about the Sputnik and I thought,
Oh, I wish I would have known you were going to say something about that.
I wanted to let you know that we lived in Germany when Russia put Sputnik up and my sister made a mural on our front window and she put Sputnik there in
Can foil and she won a prize from the stars and stripes So I thought that might be interesting That's awesome Yeah, I
love that Ali you just said you've worked your whole life and good for you and I love that you listen to the show I almost don't want to encourage you to watch TV because I feel like it would take you away from Nightlight and I certainly don't want that but I think you've earned a few movies
I don't have a TV, so I guess no movies for me, but but
oh man
We're gonna listen to my civic radio all the time.
So Well, we are very lucky to have you.
Thank you so much for the phone call tonight Ali.
Have a great Thanksgiving
You guys both to have a nice Thanksgiving tool.
Well, thank you.
Thank you so much Ali.
Have a great Thanksgiving yourself and have a great night.
Thank you
Ali.
Oh love Ali
Zomers do we have time to play what any of your board game stuff?
I you went to all that trouble and I feel like sometimes I just keep yacking and
I don't think there's enough time right now because just the clips are a little over two and a half minutes and I would have to explain it okay, but I Will at least be playing it on the John and Gordy show in the afternoon later in the week.
So
okay
for those are those guys not
taking it.
Are they not taking a break?
They are.
I just mean I'm going to play it on one of the days that they're taking a
break.
Oh, I gotcha.
Okay.
So, for those of you listening, what it is, is I had a board game night with some of my friends last week and recorded asking them, you know, what's your favorite board or card game to play in the holidays?
And why?
And they had some great answers.
All very different games, all for very different
reasons.
And it was so great because, like you mentioned, that was one of our questions of the night.
I think it was last week.
What is your favorite board game?
Because it was National Monopoly Day.
So it was perfect timing.
But maybe we can squeeze some of that in the last segment or after we talk to Courtney a little bit.
This is Night Light with Pete Schwabba.
It is great to have you here, folks.
We have our final guest of the evening is right around the corner.
She's a very talented comedian and writer.
And her name is Courtney Cronendold.
And she's coming up after this very short break.
It's Night Light with Pete Schwabba.
Welcome back Hey, it's nightlight with peach wavas so fun to have you with me folks.
This is my last show before a quick Thanksgiving break and I appreciate you spending your evening with me on this gorgeous rainy night here in the beautiful state of Wisconsin Wherever you're joining me from in Wisconsin or beyond.
Thank you so much for being here and helping us Go into the break our little holiday break here in style.
We had a great time with
Lance Barber earlier and Stuart Waddles.
And now I'm very excited to welcome this next guest as well.
She and I had the pleasure, it was my pleasure anyway, of working with her on a show called Sports Soup, a funny look at sports.
And she was there for me day one, and I got to know her in the writer's room.
It was just great.
She's a very funny comedian and a very talented writer.
Miss Courtney Cronin-Dole.
Hello, Courtney.
Hi, Pete.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
You look great.
Look at you.
I'm
in my little office.
I don't want to brag, but I share it with a washer and dryer.
All right.
You can do a lot worse.
Just don't open the lid when you do something that were sound is
effective.
I'm like smushed up against the wall so you can't see it.
You could have you could have a gentle cycle in right now and I would have no idea because your
microphone.
That's true.
Hey, this is fun.
I want to tell you before we, well, first I have to ask you, do you have a favorite, our question of the night we do this every night here, do you have a favorite Steve Martin movie?
Yeah, Steve Martin is like one of my favorites.
When I saw that, that was your question of the night.
I was like, oh my God, I got to narrow it down.
Okay.
So his most endearing, like where you love him the most, parenthood.
Nice.
He's so great.
And then the most silly and ridiculous, I'm a lonely guy fan.
I love why don't you just grow it long in the back and swoop it over?
I think that's what the swoop it over conversation in that movie is one of the funniest scenes I've ever seen I
totally forgot about the lonely guy like he's got such a body of work I've forgotten some of his great roles like in a little shop of horrors and you know the jerk and dirty rotten scoundrels and dead men don't work flat
Uh, wasn't Charles Groden and the lonely guy too?
It's
him and Charles Groden and Judith Ivy.
It's so good.
They have a scene where, where the guys that eat by themselves, they put cardboard cutouts around them so that they don't feel like losers.
They have cardboard cutouts to put in their house to look like they have company.
That is so great.
Oh, great choice, Courtney.
And you know what's interesting is I do remember the director of that film was Arthur Hiller.
who is
the guy you
would always see at the Oscars with the crazy white hair.
And you go, who is that guy?
Like you just thought he was like an Oscar hanger on, but no, he was like a real director and he directed the lonely guy.
Great show.
Okay, cool.
Yeah, it's, it's, I feel like I need to watch it tonight now.
Yeah.
I feel like I've got a whole, a whole bunch of them I need to watch here, thanks to our listeners.
But I want to ask you this too.
This is funny because we have, I have a very good friend here at Civic Media named Terry Barr.
who does all these great features here.
We have a segment every Friday night called Bar Band Friday because she's tied into the music scene and she brings new
music.
She is awesome.
And she said, please ask Courtney about the Kiss Cruise landlocked in Vegas.
We were both there.
I met her at one in Nashville.
So how do you like that?
Oh, wait.
Okay.
So then we, we, if we were in Nashville at a Kiss thing, then we met at Creatures Fest.
Okay.
Oh, Terry, does that sound right?
Let us know.
As soon as you said her name, I'm like, why do I know her?
Yeah.
As soon as you said her name.
OK.
Well, I didn't actually work the actual event.
I hosted the pre-party, which featured a Spraley's band.
And in the process of planning that evening, he passed away.
Oh, Mike.
So that was really
recently.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
Okay.
October 16th.
So it ended up becoming a life celebration for Ace and his band playing together for the first time since he passed.
Wow.
So it was, and those guys are my good friends.
I've gone to see, I think I've gone to see Ace.
Ace and Trickster probably more than anyone in the last five, six years.
No
kidding.
I'm friendly with them all, and so wherever I am, if I'm anywhere near them, I'll go.
And Ace's band was my favorite thing.
They're so great.
Ace was smart.
He always surrounded himself with incredible musicians, and his shows were always such a highlight, always so much fun.
That's what the evening became.
So I hosted that and I was supposed to do stand up, but it was now became a cancer benefit and a life celebration for Ace.
So we can't be like Ace tribute video, donate to cancer and now comedy.
So we didn't really do it that way, but I knew most of the people, I knew everyone in it and I knew most of the people that were there.
So I was just like a friendly voice, you know, helping move things along.
you know more than anything and and just you know really just tastefully moving things along bringing a little bit of humor where it was necessary one of those kind of things you know where I'm pretty good at making it not about me I should probably get a little worse at that maybe I wouldn't be next to the washing machine but
it remind me
what you just
said
about doing comedy at a life celebration and a cancer thing was when Homer Simpson had to do Mr. Burns's roast and the Smithers introduces him and said, I just want to inform you all that a small puppy not unlike Lassie was killed in the parking lot.
And now it's time for the comedy stylings of Homer Simpson.
Do you know that that's happened
to me for real?
I believe
it.
The host went up before the show.
First of all, shut off the game.
That's death right there shut off sports and then and i'm sorry i'm late my dog killed my other dog by accident in the middle of the night with a leash here's your host Courtney Cronin
oh man is that funny oh my gosh that's gorgeous all right Courtney Cronin uh do you use doled i didn't know how to
i got rid of it
Oh,
because you know when I was sitting next to you in the office is when I met my husband and I'll never forget it.
You offered me a piece of chocolate.
You go Courtney, do you want some chocolate?
And I remember I was like starving myself before I went to visit him in Germany.
I was eating a tomato soup.
Let's pick up
right there.
We're going to get caught up.
Let's pick up right there.
I forgot about that.
It's fishwab and nightlake coming right back.
I'm just gonna assume that that is a kiss or ace Fraley song Who is it both?
Oh, it's both.
Okay, that is the voice of Courtney Cronin my guest here at night like tonight Courtney and I go way back we met on the in the writer's room of sports soup and Before the break Courtney, I
Hated to cut you off, but we have really hard outs where the computer just takes over and I want you to get cut off So I would love it if you continued that story about the chocolate
Okay, so I remember you were like I had met my husband while working on the show like I'm at this guy and
I
kind of fell in love by the way This was 17 years ago.
We're still together For
you nice
married 15 years two weeks ago.
So
Yeah.
So I was going to meet him.
I was going to Germany to visit him and just, you know, see what happens.
So I was like on this massive diet, like at work, I was eating like, like watery tomato soup, like nothing.
And you have these little chocolates.
And you go, hey, Courtney, do you want a chocolate?
And I went, no, Pete, I can't eat chocolate.
And you said, you said you go.
Courtney, I'm pretty sure this little piece of chocolate is not going to determine how whether or not you look better or worse than the negligee when you go to Germany.
Something like that.
Like this chocolate is not going to affect how you look in your negligee in Germany.
And I was like, okay.
It was so funny and it was so true.
Like I needed to calm down.
I was like starving myself.
Did you eat the chocolate?
Did you
take it?
I was so hungry, I probably passed out right after that
happens.
Oh, that is so funny.
I have to tell you, that was my first, you know, writing job with a staff that I did like this other bad clip show that was on country music TV about smokies and bandits.
This is awful.
But that was a fun job because you were so awesome.
And Roger and Andrew Ganser and Trevor and
Roger.
Yeah, I know.
And you guys, I've had some of those guys on too, but the last time I was going to reach out to you, I thought I got to get Courtney on the show, but Becky Pettigo had just passed away.
And she was on the show probably a year ago, and I knew you guys were good friends.
So I thought I'm going to sit this one out for a little bit, give you a chance, because I know you guys were tight.
And I'm sorry to hear about her passing.
She was
great.
Tough, you know, and Mike Segal are, you know, you guys are very close.
I
know.
Yeah.
Yeah, Mike and Becky were real close and that was tough.
Becky was a fantastic comedian.
She was so funny.
She was so intelligent.
And I saw her all the time because she worked down the street for me.
So I walk my dog at night and if it was, if she wasn't too busy, you know, she'd let us in and my dog thought it was the greatest thing ever that we could go inside the
restaurant.
Becky wasn't really an animal person, but she liked my dog because he loved her so
much.
So she'd be like, I always said she talked to my dog like he was a person.
She'd be like, hey, Rainey, how are you?
Are you doing Rainey?
And it was so funny.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was yucky.
Oh,
yeah, it really was.
But I'm glad to, you know,
You guys all seem like you're doing.
I didn't know her as well as Mike.
Certainly I met her at a couple of Mike's parties and I just thought she was a very nice person and she was fun to have on the show.
And I know you guys were tight.
You, you've had a lot of writing gigs.
I'm kind of amazed that people go from gig to gig and you do stand up.
What do you prefer writing when it comes to comedy?
Do you like the stand up world or writing on a show?
I would prefer to write on a show because it pays more.
But I, but I always try to work with comedians because I always tell like producers or like when I go in on an interview or something like I speak comedian, we really have our own language and understanding.
Yeah.
You know, that people that don't like haven't been through what we've been through or, you know, done, you know, do what we do.
We just, there's like a certain.
Attachment we have for each other even if we're not friends with people you kind of still
have to
respect that person like you know what they're doing and how insane what we do is And
we just
kind of got each other, you know, and there's like a way to talk to each other that I think sometimes People don't understand, you know
It's so funny you say that you just made me remember something about the way I feel about comics I haven't done stand-up as a job in years and years, but you always do have that bond
Yeah, that's not true.
But we do have that.
Like when you start out, everything is competitive.
Oh, I'm working that room.
He's working that room.
Oh my God.
And as you get older, it's just like, if I meet someone who I know is a comedian, I instantly just have affection for them now.
It's like, I don't know if that's maturity or what, but it's like, cause you're right.
It's like such a unique thing that we have in common.
And it's kind of fun that we can all share that at this point in our lives.
I think so.
I think the longer we're around the more we understand like how petty some of the things that we were upset about 25 years ago were and you know like what's really important now.
You know
like
I'll say like Becky's passing you know awful and then something wonderful that came out of it is brought like
you know, Gary and Kristen and Mike and Piper and stuff like that.
We hang out a lot now.
It's brought
us
closer and we, you know, we've kind of got like a nice, you know, nice little hang going.
We're having a good time.
We're low, you know, the local redondo comics together and that's really nice, you know, and, you know, we're always like, Hey, have you heard about this thing?
Hey, oh, hey, have you heard about that?
You know, and just kind of like helping each other out like Gary and I did a pizza place.
couple weeks ago and it was on my wedding anniversary and oh wow but the guy said hey are you free next thursday i'm like yes because i'm 50 i don't know what next thursday is i don't know the date i have no idea so i come home my husband's like you know that's their anniversary i was like oh god well you know it pays and there's food
i'll take you out to dinner after
on the street and he goes all right
Let's go.
So they asked who I wanted to work with me.
I go, how about Gary?
Gary and Kristen came and the four of us, we had a blast.
Oh, that's so great.
That's so great.
What are you, what clubs do you go up at Courtney in LA and do you have clubs you still travel to?
It'd be so great if you came to Wisconsin.
You know, you know, I was supposed to be there.
I was actually supposed to be in your neck of the woods and it kind of fell apart.
But but we're working on it.
We're working on coming back.
I've
been
touring a lot with Don Jameson.
He lives in New Jersey and from that metal show.
And we do this like rock and roll show together on like on the monsters of rock crews and around music festivals and stuff called punchlines and backlines.
Excuse me.
And I've been touring with Red Beach from Winger and White Snake.
We're doing like as many shows as we can that are like driving distance for him.
Like you can't really pull him away too, too much.
But.
he's about to get real busy again, because both the bands he was in forever both retired.
So
he had a little free time, so we kind of swooped in on him when he had a little free time, and we're like, come on, do some more stand-up with this, because he's so funny at it.
Really?
He's so
funny.
Oh my God.
He's so hilarious.
And he kind of tells stories, but he's got jokes, you know, because I always tell them, everyone who does our show, it's rock stars doing comedy for the first time.
Oh,
I love that.
We've been doing
it so long.
Yeah, that we had people, all stars, and we had people come back.
Todd Lettori from Queens, right?
Britt Lightning from Vixen.
They've come back and done it twice.
Rebs done it like four times.
PJ Farley from Tricksters done it twice.
Chad Stewart from Faster Pussycat.
Patrick Kenneson who plays with Lita Ford and his band Heaven Below.
They've all done it a few times because they had so much fun.
They came back.
Wow.
Yeah, so we're like, well, let's keep...
Going going, you know, we talked to Reb and he's like sure so we've done like five road shows with Reb Beach and he's like you would never know He was not a comic if you didn't tell people that didn't know who he was Like coming up next Reb Beach.
I mean his act reveals who he is and you know
Yeah,
what he's done for work because that's most most of his act is stories from the road and all the things that have happened and Because you can't believe it the stuff that's happened to him
My guess is a comedian Courtney Cron and she is also a fabulous writer and we're talking about the show She does punch lines and back lines with Red Beach from White Snake and what was it winger?
Okay, you were a fan of all that music, right?
Like you like the the metal and stuff like that I kind of remember that about you and so I'm not surprised that you and Terry Connected at some point because she's a huge fan as well, but are you just like in heaven like LA has so many
uh, people that live there that used to be big time rock stars and you meet them now and it's kind of fun.
Like they're just like regular people again, right?
Sort of.
Yeah.
Sort of.
I don't never go away, but the fact that I'm like, I was such a hair metal fan and like I was called soft metal, but like, you know, I'm like, I'm not like into iron maiden, you know, but like I love poison and winger, you know, and like more of like extreme like bands that like
you know we're a little more I don't want to say pop but like just you know little tamer not not so like right but like you know they write great songs they you know they're great performers they're great musicians they're fun to watch still you know like kicks they just retired and man I mean up until the last seconds like one of the most fun bands to see ever and like I love all that stuff so to be around them and work with them such a big deal for me
It's like it was like a dream.
It's I can't believe I'm doing this.
Like it feels so neat.
Like it's still exciting.
Yeah.
Um, where did you start doing stand up and who are your influences, Courtney?
Like when you got into it at first, was there someone you tried to emulate or someone you thought, oh, I just want to be as funny as them?
Like, who are your influences?
Um, well, Cara Leifer was has always been my favorite.
I remember seeing her the first time I saw her.
I'm like, God.
She's so smart and the jokes and I was
like, yeah,
I want to be like her I still want to be her.
Yeah,
she's like got the most awesome career and I guess I saw her and that got me into like wanting to kind of be a stand-up but I started in Boston I started in college I was in theater school and I just didn't really fit in to kind of the theater school thing I never really found my place, you know with them until like me and
Mikaela Watkins, who's now doing extremely well.
She was on SNL and she's in a ton of movies.
She's a big actress and Mickey.
And she and I were always kind of goofy, funny to like, you know, always trying to do goofy shit.
So stuff.
Sorry.
And, um, sorry.
And, um, we, uh, put together this like weird sketch improv show called, boy, that's good cheese.
And.
Bob's chicken house presents.
Oh boy, that's good cheese.
And we did the show and it was the most fun I had in school.
That's when she and I
did that show together.
Yeah, it was really fun.
And I'm like, I want to do comedy.
So like I started doing stand up while I was still in theater school.
I love that.
Um, and you talk about Carol Leaffer, obviously, who is the inspiration for Elaine and Seinfeld.
And it was a tremendous standup comedian.
Um, can, can people see your stuff anywhere?
Courtney, like, should I direct them online or to this, uh, the show you've been doing punchlines and backlines?
Will that be coming through Wisconsin at all?
Well,
we're trying.
Yeah.
Definitely.
We're starting to like move, we're starting in the East and starting to move West.
We're doing the Monsters of Rock Cruise and the Mountain Music Festival both in Tennessee next year, but we'll be in Columbus, Ohio on February 15th, Don and I with Reb, and
February
12th in Pittsburgh, and then we've got some other stuff coming.
But pickpunchlinesandbacklines.com is the website, and there's
some
video up there of our most recent show.
And I have video scattered.
I'm finally putting...
Myself on screen.
That's the other thing.
I love about being a writer.
No camera.
I hate being on camera I've been hiding
from
the camera for 30 years as long as I've been doing stand-up I hate it and I'm finally starting to post my stuff online I have just been against it.
I don't know why it's dumb I just send private links to bookers and stuff.
I don't I never
I think that's no I think
That's, that's not uncommon.
I think I had to get, I couldn't talk about myself, like, but you kind of have to sell yourself to some of these people.
Courtney Cronin is here, a very funny stand-up comedian and writer.
We'll have a couple of minutes with Courtney when we come back after this very short break.
Don't go anywhere, folks.
We're coming back to close things down, and Courtney's here.
It's Pete Schwabba in Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Oh, that's one of the biggies.
Don't tell me.
That's poison, right?
Yeah.
Nothing
but a good time.
Dream guest for me, for my show, CC DeVille.
Wait, who's that, Courtney?
The guitar player for poison.
That's nothing but a good time, right?
OK, got it.
I hung in there long enough.
Hey, folks, on Monday, we'll be off after tonight, taking a short break for Thanksgiving.
But on Monday, Betsy Gaspar from Old World Wisconsin, great museum will be here.
Jane Wells, the leader of the Marinette, Wisconsin, West Shore Corral.
Dobie Maxwell, comedian Dobie Maxwell will be here and Milwaukee film critic Matt Miller.
Next week, we've got great shows also.
Bill Leff, who is the host of the nationally syndicated show.
Tune in with me.
We'll be here.
He was our first guest and it'll be our two-year anniversary.
So Bill comes back every year on our anniversary and sometimes in between.
And then Lauren Holly will be here on Wednesday night talking about the godfather of Green Bay Screening in Madison a week from Thursday.
So that'll be a fun another fun week of guests and of course Terri Bar for Bar Band Friday night next week.
My guest is Courtney Cronin.
She and I go way back.
We've been a part of a writing staff together.
Courtney is a very funny stand-up comedian and writer.
Courtney, before I let you go, I have to ask you two things.
Who makes you laugh these days?
Who do you find truly hilarious?
Stand-up?
Anything.
Stand-up, sketch, actor, whatever.
Oh, God.
There's this girl, Steph, to love.
Have you ever seen her?
I
probably have,
but probably don't know her name.
I'm
sure she
comes up on Reels.
She is so funny every time she comes up.
I started falling all her stuff She is like every time she opens her mouth.
I'm like laughing hard She's just killing me.
I've just kind of gotten into her and I don't know like I Don't know what makes me laugh sometimes.
I need to laugh like so bad You know and it's weird like comedians for us to take a break.
We watch murder like you are so
right
It's true.
We need a break.
We watch murder, you know, true crime, dramas, horror.
We don't watch comedy.
Exactly.
No, I'm with you.
And I, unless something's very like anti-comedy, like the chair company or something like, I just, I can't get too into it unless it's like almost like subversively comedic, if that
makes any sense
at all, you know?
Yeah.
One more question for you.
And again, I can't, it's so great to reconnect with you and I'm so glad you're on the show.
What are you watching on TV?
Anything you can binge watch, speaking of murder and true crime and all that kind of stuff.
Best show I think I've seen in like 20 years was Wednesday.
Cause I love the Adams family and I love all of the stuff that goes with it and the way the story developed and the way it all came together.
I thought was so brilliant and so much fun to watch.
Nice.
I loved it.
I was so bummed.
Like when it was over, like I was sad, but, but the ending, I mean, everything about it was so great.
And then my husband and I just finished the second or third.
Is it third season of Tulsa King?
I think it's third.
It was pretty good.
I watched the first season.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was pretty good.
I mean, I liked it.
Um, I mean, I, I'm not kidding.
I, when I want to unwind, I watch reruns of the love boat.
Oh, that's so great.
And I'm actually building a TikTok channel where I announce the guest stars as they do their hero shots and read them off by what they're known for.
Oh, that
is awesome.
Known for.
No one steal it.
I'll kill you.
I'm putting it out soon, but I watch it so much and I'm so into it.
It just it's the best way to just sort of
just dumb your whole world down.
And just, and some of it's so offensive.
It's like, oh my God, you could never do that today.
Oh my God.
But also some of it's so ahead of its time.
Yeah.
And like, man, Captain Steuben, he's just the greatest.
And how is Doc the ladies?
I mean, like, it was so weird.
Like, he's the ladies guy.
I don't
know.
Yeah.
You know, he was like a vaudeville actor, I think, and he was just so funny and charming.
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
And that I think he just like nailed.
I think he just blew everybody else out of the auditions.
You know, he's a handsome.
He's cute with his hairpin.
Sure.
And he's a doctor.
He's, you know, he's an educated
guy.
Got the intellect.
He can.
Who is your favorite character on the love boat?
Mine was probably Gopher, but now I don't like him anymore.
Isaac.
Yeah.
Isaac.
There you go.
The most likable character on the show.
He always had the best storylines.
And
I just and if you look at the actor Ted Lange, he's the only one from the original cast that actually looks the same.
He looks great.
Yes, it looks fantastic.
Is that how you say his name, Lange?
Lange.
Oh, I was called him Ted Lange.
Everyone did.
OK.
Hey, my friend, this was so much fun.
Thank you for being on the show tonight, Courtney.
And I'm so glad things are going well for you.
I'm glad you're so married.
Whether you took the chocolate or not, I don't care.
I'm glad you found love.
And keep bringing the funny.
Good luck with your show.
And please come back soon.
Thank you.
This was, this show's great.
Thank you so much.
I had such a good time.
Thanks.
You're very welcome.
You could start the dryer now, by the way.
Oh,
Courtney Cronin.
Thank you so much.
Have a great night and a happy Thanksgiving.
Happy Thanksgiving.
All right, that's man.
That was fun Thank you to Courtney.
Thank you to Lance Barber and thank you to Stuart J. Waddles.
Thank you for all your texts and calls Did I get everything Zomers?
I think so at least last that I saw yeah, and the 608 we got one more text here Steve Steve Martin was hilarious in the Spanish prisoner, which was a thriller That's very funny 608.
I love it
Thank you for all your calls and texts.
Everybody have a great Thanksgiving.
We will be back Monday with another all-star cast of guests and a fun question and hopefully great interaction from you guys.
Thank you to Aaron Zommers.
Much appreciated, my friend.
I will see you Monday.
We'll see you Monday.
Happy Thanksgiving, everybody.
Good night, Wisconsin.
Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay, this is Night Light with Pete Chwaba.
Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.
And now, a guy who does his own stunts, Pete Chwaba.
Hello everybody.
Welcome to Night Light.
It is Tuesday.
It's not just Tuesday.
Because I know Tuesday, it's been said on Seinfeld Tuesday has no feel.
A lot of people don't really feel Tuesday, but this is a Thanksgiving week Tuesday.
And that's different.
That kind of feels like a Thursday to me.
But if I want verification or if I want to be vouched for, I can't go to Conrad Krieger tonight because he is still in Florida.
It wasn't a one-day trip and joining me tonight a night like once again is my pal Aaron Zommers affectionately known as Zommers.
Hey, buddy.
Hey, yeah, you know, I have to
agree it very much does feel like a Thursday, but yeah Still with the rest of the work from the previous week crammed in
Right, it's a short week which makes us feel good, but it's a week's worth of stuff you have to do in like two and a half days so it's
There's the rub, as they say.
How are you doing tonight,
buddy?
Doing well.
Always an adventure.
Making radio.
Absolutely.
Well, it's great.
You are holding down the fort in Madison there.
Is anybody still there?
I'm curious.
A few people are.
John
and Gordy,
who now have their statewide program that anybody who's been listening just heard, they may not have left the building just yet, but they're certainly about to, if not.
But after they leave and after Megan leaves...
I will be the only one here, so soon there will be nobody else.
That is creepy, dude.
Well, tell John and Gordy I said hello, my civic media older brothers, as I refer to them.
It's great to be on the air.
It's Tuesday of a holiday week.
This is a short week for me.
I am done tonight, and we will have some outstanding highlight shows coming up Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
And this week is fun.
We've had really fun guests this week, and as we do every week, but on Friday particularly, we're going to have a best of this week because we had Tom Lennon, we have Lance Barber on tonight from Young Sheldon, Paul Vandenplatz from Wonderfully Wisconsin, and then some other really fun best of shows coming up Wednesday and Thursday as well, which include interviews from Wisconsin Foodies Arthur Ersink, Mike Schmidt, Katie LeClerk from A Cherry Pie Christmas, which was shot in Dark County.
Actor Mike Star.
You might remember Mike from Dumb and Dumber.
He was the guy that picked up Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels They were singing right in his face.
You're maybe like that movie,
right?
I haven't actually seen that one.
Oh dear god.
I know it's required.
I know it's required viewing I just haven't gotten around to it yet.
So I remember Mike Star from Nightlight with Pete Schwabba
Okay, well, that's fine too because he was great But he's one of those guys like we had him on and I kept having to cut him off because we had to go to commercial because it's radio and most people nowadays are used to podcasts where they just go and go and Mike has got so many stories But it'll be nice to see what con put together with Mike star in that Thursday night.
That's Thanksgiving Day best of Also my interview with David Zucker will be part of that show the comedy city guys here in Depeer trapper chef
We played one of his songs so a lot of fun still on nightlight the rest of the week But tonight we got a great show too folks.
It's gonna be a lot of fun.
We are talking about I'm just gonna lead with this but Because a lot of our guests this week were determined by an event happening next week December 4th at the Atwood music festival There will be a screening of a film I made called the Godfather of Green Bay It's December 4th starts at 7 o'clock doors open at 6 sponsored by Downwinds Distilling
and the John and Gordy morning show at WMDX here at Civic Media.
The Atwood Music Hall is a great venue, and it's going to be a lot of fun.
Tickets are only $10.
Part of the proceeds go to the Dane County Humane Society.
So it's for a good cause.
John and Gordy are going to host a Q&A with me after the screening.
And the Godfather of Green Bay is a feel-good comedy.
As I mentioned, Tom Lennon, who was on last night, was great talking to Tom.
Lance Barber is on tonight.
They were both in the film.
Lauren Holly who will be on the show next week next Wednesday Is in the film she plays opposite me?
That's right.
I got to act I got to act opposite Lauren Holly Tony Goldman's in the movie all kinds of great Milwaukee actors like Eric Price and Rob Martin Tracy Thorpe from Chicago Steve Seeger and Jimmy part of Mike Segal Mike to me all guys you've heard on a night like night light and gals too So it's gonna be a lot of fun.
It's a feel-good movie perfect way to kick off your holidays and a lot of the proceeds go to
a good cause, as I mentioned.
So come on out, say hello if you can.
We'll have some food, some drinks, some conversation.
It's going to be a blast.
And tonight, from the godfather of Green Bay and young Sheldon, and he just informed me too that there's a new season of the comeback with Lisa Kudrow.
Lance Barber will be here at 6.35 tonight.
At 5.35 on the show, my old pal, Stuart Waddles, who is our civic media news director for Southeast Wisconsin.
Aaron.
Did I tell you what Stuart and I are going to be talking about?
I don't know if you did.
Oh, I mean, I know part of it is going to be a certain musical artist that has had a resurgence lately.
It's going to be outstanding.
Gordon Lightfoot, because it was the 50th anniversary of the Edmund Fitzgerald Stuart, because of that, just discovered Gordon Lightfoot's music.
So he'll give us a little roundup of what's happening in southeast Wisconsin, maybe some new stories we should pay attention to.
And then we'll talk some Gordon Lightfoot.
Then Lance Barber at 635 and then my old pal Courtney Cronin doled a very funny stand-up comedian and writer will be here at 720 So we've got some some music some laughs a little celebrity element to the show.
It should be a fun You know what it is Aaron?
It's the kind of show Conrad is gonna wish he was here for
Absolutely, and we're just gonna have
to tell
him to go back and watch it on YouTube or listen to the podcast
I'm sure he's got the whole family down there in Florida huddled around the radio
and listening to Nightlight tonight as they always do.
So I had this happen.
I don't know what happened.
You're a tech guy.
Maybe you can help me with this.
All my ads, my inbox in my email, I'm getting Kansas City ads.
Ads from Kansas City.
And on my sports, I use the Odyssey app to follow my teams.
It's all Kansas City.
I'm getting these Kansas City lawyer ads, like, Mike's got this.
Go to Mike'sGotThis.com.
He got me $600,000 in a settlement.
Mike's got this.
I'm going to take hostages if I hear that ad one more time, and I'm getting Kansas City chief stuff.
What do I
do, Aaron?
Help me.
You know, I wish I knew.
I've also been the victim of, I'll say, misplaced advertising.
A few months ago, I was just reading some news articles for work on my phone, and I noticed an ad for a breast milk pump.
And I'm like, huh, that's weird.
I'm not the target audience.
And I scrolled down a little bit further and there was another one.
And I'm like, okay, that's even weirder.
The next day I went and I was reading some articles just on like games for my own entertainment and the ad was for a different breast milk pump.
And I'm like, okay, who, who at Google told you something very incorrect about me?
This does not apply to me in any way.
You know, I know that you probably aren't the target audience, but if the price is fair, you might want to move on that.
You know,
I guess, yeah, I can stock up for the future.
Who knows?
I would buy them all and sell them in the black market.
Maybe jack up the price, let's capitalism, buddy.
You could use this to your advantage.
You know, I didn't really think about it that way.
Here's another tech thing.
I know you can relate to this too, as most of the people listening probably can.
But this morning, it was ad after ad, worse than ever.
I think I was on Twitter, then I went to Yahoo News, and I couldn't find...
The the X to close out the ad
and it
took up like three quarters of the page I'm like hate that.
I had to maximize my screen.
I still couldn't find it It's like they're the tech guys or the code writers or whoever they are Are trying to raise people's blood pressure and the the amount of the news story I could see was about two It was about an inch of like a 12 inch screen
So I had to scroll.
I just gave up.
And then I'm like scrolling, reading this article two lines at a time.
It was maddening.
Yeah.
Like really, all that does is make people leave the website.
I mean, the thing that I hate the most is when you do see the X, but then it goes away for a little bit right when you're about to click on it.
So you end up clicking
on
the ad and then it comes back later.
It's like, are you kidding me?
This is so
annoying.
I guarantee they do that on purpose.
And the other thing they do, I think, is when the ad pops up, you're right.
You go to click on it and it disappears.
You open a whole new page so they get clicks or the spot where you're supposed to click moves.
It's really manic.
And I will not buy that product.
I make a point to say I'm never buying that product.
I don't care how expensive or inexpensive the breast pump is, I'm not buying that product.
Right.
If they were, if they're respectful ads, I can close out of whenever I want.
You know, regardless of what the product is, you might have my interest just to support your business practices.
Exactly.
All right.
We speak the same language.
That's great.
So we've got a really fun show tonight.
Great guests, as I mentioned, folks.
And I want to read a couple of texts because I don't like to miss texts, but John Murray.
One of our regular textures in the 608 texted me because we had prerecorded material on last night to close the show and he texted during that time So John in the 608 said evening gents great show as usual Peter you got skills and your sidekick needs a show sometime soon What do you think about that Zomers?
Well, maybe he's talking about
Conrad, you know, he didn't specify maybe
he didn't
mean
No, he was listening last night and then he put a PS and he said I don't think Conrad should ever have his own show
I miss that text
But I think he was giving you a compliment any compliments con every night to John's a great guy Then you left another one.
This is also from John in the 608.
He says my grandma Gigi Made the best pumpkin bars ever and she always made me my own personal pumpkin pie I would make her proud every year and down the whole thing after dinner homemade pie heaven now only Jesus and the Gigi's family upstairs get to indulge
R.I.P.
GG Thanksgiving is missing a star on earth.
Very nice text, John.
Very nice text.
Made him his own pumpkin pie.
That's like some serious special treatment.
So I think, you know, as I'm without further ado, we should get to our nightlight question of the night.
Let's talk about the question.
Okay, question.
Question.
Question.
Pregunta.
Question.
Question.
Okay, I have a question.
Questions.
This question.
Domanda.
Question.
Question.
Questions.
Oh, man.
This is a great one.
It's Steve Martin's birthday today.
Very simple question.
What is your favorite Steve Martin movie?
How do you like that one, folks?
Driving home on the way home right now?
You get to think about that?
Text us.
Let me know your favorite Steve Martin movie and I have a feeling I know what a lot of people are gonna say because You know planes trains and automobiles dropped on this day.
Actually, I think that's on this day in 1987 Actually, I don't think it's Steve Martin's birthday forget everything I said up until this point.
Just disregard the entire show No, but Steve Martin, I think planes trains and automobiles dropped on this day in 1987 one of my favorite movies a fat-free movie
if I may.
The script is great.
The acting is great.
The story is beautiful.
It's got laughs.
It's heartwarming.
It's got great story.
It's even got suspense on some level because you, I mean, you assume they'll get home, but they tell the story in such a great way and was executed flawlessly.
So that is my favorite Steve Martin movie, but I want to know yours.
He's done some great ones.
I would do honorable mention like The Man with Two Brains, The Jerk.
Deadman don't wear a plaid.
I like to go back to early Steve career when I talk about his his movies But let me know what you think be part of the show 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 civic You can also text us on the app.
It's very easy to use and if you don't have it You should get it because it's outstanding and very easy to use like I just said If you're watching the radio on YouTube Facebook or X you can drop us a stream comment there and let us know what your favorite Steve Martin movie is
Just to heads up to folks, we've got some really cool stuff happening.
WGBW station manager Dan Marcus is going to come into the studio and tell us about a really cool event here in Green Bay.
We've got Giving Tuesday happening next week here at Civic Media.
It's going to be a phenomenal time and a charitable time.
And we've got a text-to-win contest coming up that we're going to tell you all about too throughout the course of the show.
Another one of our awesome multi-state Civic Media text-to-win contest.
Who is that, Zomers?
This is Steve Earl with Continental Trailways Blues.
Oh, the song
from planes, trains, and automobiles.
I love it, dude.
I love it.
We're coming right back.
It's a nightlight with Pete Schwab, but Dan Marcus is
here.
Dad, that I recognize.
You know, a really underrated soundtrack in that movie too.
It's Pete Schwabba and Nightlight.
Great to have you with me on a Tuesday that feels like a Thursday because it's a short week and it's a big holiday.
Happy Thanksgiving to all listening and wherever you're joining me from across the state.
It's great to have you Our question of the night and that's why Zomers was playing that song was what is your favorite Steve Martin movie planes trains and automobiles came out on this day in 1987 and that's why that is our question of the night so Let us know let us know what your favorite Steve Martin movie is at 855 752 4842 or you can drop us a stream comment
or use the app.
The app is outstanding and very easy to use.
It's my pleasure now to welcome a guy who is sticking around longer than he probably wants to.
But he's joining me.
He's the station manager here at WGBW.
I'm proud to call him a mentor and a friend, Mr. Dan Marcus.
Mr.
Well, you know, you're you're you're kissing up.
You know, you're just I'm not kissing up.
I don't do that despite your good looks and you're Rippling muscles.
I never do that kind of thing Then I wanted to have you on because there's this really cool event going on here in Green Bay So if those of you in Northeast with cats are listening we need to talk about Chris help me say it
Chris Kendall market
Chris Kendall market.
It sounds like a really cool event.
It is I mean, this is where this is an outdoor market German style
Food, of course there are beverages.
But crafts and beer and programming.
I mean, Santa's there for the kids.
But one of the neat things is because it's outdoor and it's cold weather event, they've got igloos that you can rent.
You can
rent
them.
You can rent them for like 75 minutes.
I don't know how much it costs.
Prices beside the point, they, they provide a pretzel tray.
So come on.
Is that for warming purposes or what do you think people rent igloos for Dan?
I don't want to make any nefarious.
No, they're not there and they're playing scrabble.
Come on.
The way your voice rose when you said that makes me think.
Well, I just, I just channeled my puberty, didn't
I?
Exactly.
Uh.
That sounds like a great event.
That sounds like a lot of fun.
Well, it is.
And the nice thing is that it's three days a week.
It's not just Thursdays Friday.
It's not just Thursdays, for example.
Now, it's not happening this Thursday because it's Valentine's Day.
It's Thanksgiving, but it's happening Thursdays, Fridays and Saturdays.
Did I get that?
Yes.
Yeah, I think the 20th
through December
20th.
It's a gathering place.
It's its own little community.
Absolutely.
It sounds like a blast and Green Bay is just a beautiful place to be for Christmas.
If you're in the area, definitely check that out.
Hey, how was the parade last
weekend?
The parade was a hoot.
Yeah, we were well represented.
Well, we had the station van there with a big rubber nose.
The theme of the parade was Rudolph and Friends.
So we had antlers out the side of the vehicle and we had, we were playing music and people as we were going down the street were dancing to Wonderful Christmas Time and Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer and it was, I love those and we were passing out candy to the kids.
Yeah, I'm kind of conflicted because as much as I love Christmas, like my wife is one of those people, she'd say put the tree up a week before Thanksgiving.
I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, what's your wife's first name?
Mary Mary stop that He's one of the bosses here Mary you heard them But I kind of feel the same way although you can say like the Green Bay Christmas parade is kind of a Thanksgiving parade to it.
It's just a fun
holiday Yeah, yeah, definitely, but it takes on a Christmas flavor and Santa's in it now Santa doesn't come around for Thanksgiving so that makes it a Christmas parade Be logical here.
Well said.
What are your plans for Thanksgiving?
My wife and I are hosting her son and his wife and my dog and my cat.
Nice.
Yeah.
A nice
group.
I wish I had a fireplace in my house.
It'd be perfect, but, but you know what I'm going to do because it's the Packers and the Lions.
I'm because that is a Thanksgiving tradition in the old Marcus household.
So I am going to watch the game, but I'm going to turn off the color so it's in black and white like it used
to be when I was a
kid.
Really?
Yeah.
You remember black and white TV, you do not look that old and I'm not kissing up again.
But I will say that you're wearing the enemy's colors here.
You got some, you're rocking.
You know, I
got dressed at 4 30 in the morning and it was dark in the bedroom.
I couldn't turn the light on.
I'd wake up Vicki.
So I just grabbed a shirt and turned out to be this lion colored
one.
And I'm sorry.
Just make sure you take it
off.
I'll be wearing a packer, a paraphernalia tomorrow.
Dan, do you have a favorite Steve Martin movie?
Maybe we could end on a dead man.
Don't wear plaid.
How great is that?
Oh, I love that movie to couple my job.
Oh, yeah, yeah Great summers.
Have you seen that dead man?
Don't wear plaid.
I have not but I'm gonna have to make a point to now Start with that one then go to dumb and dumber.
You won't be disappointed.
I'll give you your money back.
All right to be Yeah, that's fun.
Thank you sir for the update
Steve Martin former a staff writer for the Smothers Brothers I admire that man if he was in the room when Mason Williams wrote the song classical gas on his guitar because Mason Williams was a staff writer too.
Are you serious?
I heard that from Pat Paulson directly from Pat Paulson face-to-face when I interviewed him who was also a staff writer for the Smothers
Brothers.
I met him.
Is he the guy that always ran for president?
Yeah, I did meet him.
And he said, you're going to be famous.
I said, why is that?
He said, because everybody that meets me becomes famous.
He was wrong in my case.
Yeah, wrong in our case.
We're doing OK, though, Dan.
Thank you, sir.
Appreciate it.
Oh, thanks for having me on.
It's nice being here.
All right, we are coming right back with Mr. Stuart J. Waddles to find out what's going on in southeast Wisconsin.
Stuart.
Talk a little Gordon Lightfoot.
It's Pete Schwabba in Nightlight on the Civic Media radio network.
You could read my my love What a day all my folks
could
tell
Oh my god, I just want to ask someone to slow dance right now That's exciting.
Hey, welcome back to Nightlight I'm Pete Schwab, but that is Gordon Lightfoot Not exactly a pick me up, but I will tell you why
Mr. Zommer has decided to play Gordon Lightfoot and it's because it has to do with our next guest who I'm about to bring in any moment right now But first I have to tell you guys we're doing a ticket giveaway I told you about the screening of the godfather of Green Bay December 4th at the outward music hall in Madison next Thursday night a week from Thanksgiving It's gonna be a great night and we are giving away tickets So if you're in the Madison area and can attend that night all you have to do is text the keyword
And you can win two free tickets or giving away four, right, Sommers?
Yeah, four tickets.
All right.
So I almost said half the Brady Bunch could go, but that would mean I'd have to include Alice and Sam.
So we have four tickets to give away.
So if you, and I give the key word now, right, Sommers?
Yeah.
Just say
it.
Yeah.
And that's, that's for Thursday.
Thursday the fourth at 7 p.m.
at what music hall is the time that
you have to be able to make it.
A-C-T-O-R.
A-C-T-O-R.
So if you can go and are interested in checking out the Godfather of Green Bay the next Thursday and I text in the keyword and we will take this information.
And one of our textures just said, was that Casper?
Yeah.
It's making me cry.
So let's bring in our guest and explain why we went with kind of a
One of my favorite songs, but you could you could say is part of a downer, but I guess it depends on your perspective.
Mr. Stuart J. Waddles joins the show.
Love having Stuart on.
He is our news director in southeast Wisconsin.
You can also hear him here in northeast Wisconsin from time to time.
Hey, buddy.
I thought I was on hold for the Butterball helpline.
I forgot.
I thought I was on your show.
I was
waiting.
I got a different
tab that's open.
They do have that, don't they?
Yeah.
Well, since you're here, can I start defrosting it now?
What happens?
What kind of turkey catastrophe do you think happened where you have to call a 1-800 number?
You know, I bet there's a virtual AI chat now from the fine
people at Butterball.
No kidding.
That is crazy.
I forgot all about that.
I was on the Butterball helpline.
How are you, buddy?
Well, thanks.
How are you doing, bud?
I'm doing very well.
Thank you.
Thanks.
It's always fun having you on.
I especially appreciate it in this five o'clock hour since we've added it because you're kind of tied into southeast Wisconsin in the Milwaukee area.
And I thought we could have a little discussion about some stuff that's going on.
But first, I have to ask you, before we get to that, or Gordon Lightfoot talk or whatever, do you have a favorite Steve Martin movie, Stu?
I was going over this.
I do.
I think it's leap of faith.
I know that's not a good one.
It's not going to be on most people's list, but I've never seen it in a theater when I was young.
So leap of faith.
He was a not of a, not a carny, but he would go from town to town and have a revival.
And they were kind of scamming people through
a
religious deal.
I ran away and again, one of those things that yet one of those core memories, I think it was maybe 12, 13 when that came out, sort of a theater.
That's fantastic.
I'm more
of a
Steve Martin TV guy, though.
I'm looking at his credits.
I'm more of a TV guy for Steve Martin, his work on the Muppets.
Oh, love it.
Great, great point.
That was kind of raised on King Tut and the whole, you know, that whole bit that he did with that.
And then his work on 30 Rock, he did a bit.
He did an episode of 30 Rock.
He was Gavin Valour.
And he was, he was some sort of a financial guy who was locked up in his own home, but Liz didn't know it.
And so he played a character on that and it was really good.
You know, he's one of those guys, like I'm seeing some of these texts roll in and we'll read those in a little while, but like, he did movies you forgot he did or so great.
Like I saw one of the textures said, all of me with Lily Tomlin.
I totally forgot about that movie.
Dirty Rotten Scoundrels is maybe one of my top 20 comedies of all time with Michael Cain.
I don't know if you ever saw that outstanding movie.
What's the one that was based
on Henry Hill?
It's not like a sequel to Goodfellas.
And now it's an escape in my mind.
I did.
Yeah.
Oh,
is that my blue heaven?
Yeah, my blue heaven.
Yeah.
Okay.
That wasn't officially the Henry Hill story, but it was Henry Hill in the witness protection program.
Oh, I did not know that.
That's very interesting.
Yeah.
I saw the movie years ago and I still didn't know that.
That's great.
Yeah.
Um, good fellows rewatch recently.
So that's fresh on the mind.
Oh, fantastic.
That's one of those movies.
Good fellows.
I cannot turn it off when it's on and I'm flipping around.
It's on.
It's like, all right, I'm watching it at least till the next commercial break.
Probably longer though, to be honest.
Oh, so you get the
commercial break, so you're not getting the good stuff.
Well, I'm saying if I'm flipping around, you know, you don't, you don't flip around.
I only go to Hulu and then Netflix, like it's not already on in progress.
I guess mostly if I'm at a hotel room, that's where I encounter these kind of opportunities to watch.
and you're right they're edited so they're not yeah
yeah for one minute you're telling them to go get a shine box the next or at the party you
got
between wait a minute there's a blood in here yeah in the trunk when they're
in the trunk what happened to him um so we had uh obviously Thanksgiving is a couple days away Stuart and last nice question what's your favorite side you have a
particular side item or part of the meal you look forward to the most.
It all works together.
It's all, it's all a symphony of food.
And I think each has its own kind of, because usually with my fork, I get a little bit of this and a little bit
of
that and mix some cheesy potatoes with the rice thing.
So it's all good.
My mother-in-law makes some good beans, some baked beans.
All baked beans.
Nice.
I like that a dish.
You know, somebody, I think it was, Zomers was a conrad that texted in last night, he likes.
Or maybe it was you.
He mixes the potatoes, like mashed potatoes.
Oh,
that was
me,
yeah.
With corn.
Are you the one that does
that?
Oh, yeah.
That's a fine idea.
Oh,
with no
gravy.
Well, maybe you get a little gravy in there in the next bite, but one bite can just be the potatoes and gravy.
Maybe the next one, you invite some corn in there, you know?
It is.
I don't know if it's standalone.
It is good to hear.
that I'm not the only one who mixes all the foods on Thanksgiving.
Well, what kind of psycho is there kind of?
No, you get off of there.
I'm not getting you.
I'm pushing you over there.
You stay there green beans.
I'll tell you what my brother is the kind he can't let his food or at least maybe he can now he could never let his food touch and he would have to eat it compartmentally.
Like he couldn't just take, you know, a lot of people go for the stuffing, the potatoes, the turkey, the crayon, they get all in their mouth at the same time.
And it's like a street fight.
And my brother just had to have it individually, which I always thought was kind of strange.
And you
should get him those paper plates that have the little individual compartments Christmas gift for him.
That's how we do it in our house.
It's classy stuff.
So Stuart, I'm so excited that you wanted to talk about Gordon Lightfoot tonight.
But is there anything happening in Southeast Wisconsin we need to know about?
Any big stories going on?
Yeah, there's some heavy stuff going
on.
The
slender man thing, you up
to speed on that whole deal?
Well, we talked about it a little bit yesterday.
Is there has there been a new development?
I know that the manhunt was not that long and they they caught him.
But
the Walker
Shaw
County DA came out with some pointed language about the notifications and when they should have happened and when they didn't.
And when the the victim and all this, how they weren't notified for like 12 hours after it was first discovered that
Bracelet was cut.
So yeah, it's there's some some questions going on about that that whole deal
What was there any clarification as to how like I heard the bracelet Zomers and I talked about that a little bit yesterday that the bracelet was caught off I don't even know how you do that.
You have to have probably like some kind of industrial fiskers But how did she get out because she was in a home, right?
And I'm wondering how she even got there's no
security guard waiting at the door
I
mean,
from the follow up interviews that the person who was with her has given, they were saying they were coming in and out the window.
So like it wasn't a security, it
was like
a group home.
So it could have been in like just a neighborhood.
Well,
and you figure there's
not, there's questions about people in the neighborhood even knew that she was there.
And maybe they don't
deserve to know, but maybe they do.
So there's a lot of questions.
That's crazy.
So you're saying it was an escape like in a bottle rocket when.
Luke Wilson just left, but he's not out with bedsheets even though it was voluntarily
Yeah, open the door walk and duck down and get a get a bus ticket
Do you guys do a does Kenosha Racine do a holiday parade or a Christmas parade?
Scenes got a big
one Kenosha has gotten into the whole holiday spirit with like an official downtown tree lighting
Um, we're seeing we're seeing has been a pioneer in this.
They've been doing this for like decades.
They're big, uh, Christmas party.
They did it a couple of weeks ago already.
They're already like two weeks past their holiday.
Okay.
So it's a holiday parade, not just a Christmas parade.
Otherwise that wouldn't
really, well, yeah, but what are we doing here?
I mean, it's Christmas time.
It's Christmas and I understand not everybody observes, but it's a tree that's, it's a Christmas tree.
Anyway, Gord.
Oh, very well said.
It's nice to hear your voice up.
You're doing news up here in Green Bay, and
I know
it's fun to hear you.
I know that I don't hear much of WRJN, but it's nice.
How is that?
Do you have to break up?
Have you broken a big story in Green Bay yet, Stuart?
Connie and I are working very closely, and she kind
of
takes the lead on that, and I kind of provide ancillary response.
support but she takes the lead on the Green Bay stuff and I do here and the fine folks in Green Bay would hear Connie here in the afternoon.
So we're kind of working things out and sharing the voices.
You guys do such a great job.
It's great.
You got it.
Thank you very much.
That is the voice of Stuart J. Waddles.
You have a voice like when did you know Stuart?
Like because you have one of those voices that's so distinct.
I remember when I first started working for Civic Media and I'm like this guy's got killer pipes like and it helps
when you break a story that's like kind of got some weight to it with your voice.
I know that might, I don't know if you've ever heard that before, but when did you realize I got to do news?
It wasn't so much news.
It was one day realizing I could go Sunday, Sunday, Sunday monster truck challenge.
So once I honed it on that, I'm like, well, okay, what do I do with that?
And then Gateway and Kenosha had a radio program, got into that and just kind of got into radio from there.
paid some dues, doing promotional stuff.
We'll learn another computer systems work, programming.
And this is doing everything.
Had some counts.
Oh, nice.
You did it all.
I did
it all.
And then an opportunity came up in the WRJ and to focus in on some news.
And I was like the kid getting a USA Today out of the newspaper box.
And I was eight or nine years old.
So
kind of
kind of worked it all all together.
I'm kind of amazed at people like you.
And I kind of tip my hat like Corey was up here.
Corey Hartman was up here and he was doing something with.
you know the equipment and I'm like how do you guys know everything like but it's people like you that started when they were 14 and they know some of the tech stuff some of the news stuff some of the it blows my mind and it's you know fantastic frankly to be surrounded by people like that
yeah we had a Commodore 64 in the house and I was little so if I had to play a game I had to know how to run a command line so I had to put in cmd slash this slash this cd change directory so I was running DOS when I was six or seven years old
I got really excited when you said that because I thought you said you had the Commodores at your house, which would have been really big
news.
No,
no, I had the Jordanaires.
We're gonna take a quick phone call here, Stuart.
I think we have cameras
out, sorry.
Do we have Cindy from Appleton on the phone?
I am.
Hi, Cindy.
How are you?
Say hello to Stuart Waddles.
Hi, Cindy.
Hi, Stuart.
How are you?
Well, thanks.
How are you?
I'm great.
Thank you.
You got a big parade there in Appleton tonight, don't you?
What's that?
Oh, yeah, we got a big parade there in Appleton.
Yeah, we have our big Christmas parade tonight, and that's why I'm getting out of town.
Don't distract her, those stewards.
She's calling nightlight and listening to nightlight, so we want to keep her here.
Cindy, what's going on?
Well, that event you're having next Thursday in Madison, I'd love to get there, but unfortunately it's a weeknight.
I'm wondering if I could talk into doing the same kind of event up here, maybe at the Grand Opera House in Oshkosh or the Meyer Theater in Green Bay.
Well, that is a great idea, Cindy.
And there is something in the works.
So I will keep you apprised of that as it gets closer.
I really appreciate that.
Thank you very much.
All right, Cindy, we got to go.
We're up against the break.
Thank you for the call, my friend.
We are coming right back on
Nightlight.
Welcome
back.
This is Nightlight IMP Chihuahua.
You've got the Civic Media radio network, ladies and gentlemen.
It is a beautiful, I know it's raining, but it's a beautiful night here in Wisconsin.
Stuart, how is the weather in southeast Wisconsin tonight?
I had a balmy 45 degrees about and dropping.
It's gonna get cold.
That's
about 50 right
now.
And we're getting getting getting cold.
There's a wind advisory in effect for tomorrow for the southern part of the state.
Could
be some
snow coming.
I think you're getting a lot of snow, aren't you?
We're supposed to get some and I hope we don't get too much I have to go pick up my daughter tomorrow and I think it's just supposed to be flurries But Conrad's not here to give me one of his five-day weather forecast, which is just basically him looking out the window and guesstimating so So I'll take your
ladies, huh?
What's that?
Guarantees a five-day forecast I'll give you
a
two I can't give you a five
the kid does not lack confidence.
I will say
Can we keep you a little bit past the news?
Would that be okay?
Because I would love to do a deep dive on Gordon, on Gordon Lightfoot a little bit rather than rush it right now.
I think he deserved it.
Dude, you have no idea how excited I was when you said that you kind of just discovered his music.
Well, I discovered it, just I discovered
him and the whole story and just all of it.
And it's just very interesting.
That's so great.
I'm excited to talk about that.
We'll do that after the news and act too, but I have to tell you Stuart, what are you watching on TV right now?
Have you happened to catch any of the episodes of All's Fair with Kim Kardashian?
I've not.
I did watch this documentary on Peacock.
Downey wrote it.
You may have seen this one.
Jim
Downey.
It's a Jim Downey documentary.
What is it
called?
Downey wrote that.
I think it's what it's called, Downey wrote that.
So it's a
tower about Saturday Night Live and Jim Downey and his impact.
And I get sandlers in it, Chris Rocks in it.
I mean, just anybody who was on Saturday Night Live coming and telling their Jim Downey stories.
And I didn't realize how far back he went.
Like I knew he was part of that late 80s, early 90s Conan era, but he was part of the early like beginning of Saturday Night Live.
Yeah, I know of him.
I did not know about the documentary, though.
I'll definitely check that out.
Was he the guy?
There was a guy Conan O'Brien used to talk about.
Not Conan O'Brien, I'm sorry.
Harold Ramis.
Oh, and that was Tom Kenny.
Have you ever heard of that writer?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well.
He was a comic, too.
Yes.
No.
You're thinking of Tom Kenny, not the guy with the glasses from the 80s.
Oh, that's what I went to.
Doug.
I'm sorry, Doug Kenny, who I think was Stork in Animal House.
Okay, so he apparently I could be getting this wrong but Harold Ramis said that he was always threatening to end his own life this this guy who was tortured but very funny and They said when they found his body in Hawaii it was either Harold Ramis or Chevy Chase said he probably slipped looking for a place to jump
because they ruled his death.
Accidental is such a horrible story, but Jim Downey is another one of those legendary Saturday Night Live writers.
I didn't know he did work on Letterman.
Like
he
got, I don't know if he was fired or he kind of left during that non-Lauren era and he went to work for Letterman for a couple of years.
Yeah, that could be.
Have you seen any of the other, the John Candy documentary I haven't seen yet?
No, that's on the list.
Okay.
Same.
I started watching a Gordon Lightfoot
documentary instead.
I got caught.
What's that one?
What's that
one called?
It's
Lightfoot.
It was on Amazon Prime.
It was put out in 2019 while he was still alive.
So there's interviews with him.
Oh, yeah.
It doesn't go
too deep.
What I don't like is that it's got like bald one in it.
Why?
I don't.
He was a fan and I guess he was a big star.
So if you get maybe somebody who's making a documentary and they want to get more visibility, you put.
Alec Baldwin in it, maybe.
But yeah, there's too much Alec Baldwin, but it's still good.
I wish it would
go a little deeper.
I like the, you know, to me, are you a John Prine fan?
Not so much.
Okay.
I was a fan.
I found one of his YouTube videos.
I crawled down the YouTube rabbit hole one night and sitting on the floor, it was this really cool venue like in Toronto where a singer would perform and everybody sat on the floor.
It was like a very kind of almost had like this hippy vibe.
but um gordon lightfoot was in the crowd and he was sitting there and while john prine was singing they cut to gordon lightfoot he had tears streaming down his face and there's something about when one of your heroes like you just mentioned letterman when david letterman would laugh at something i just it's like an easier reaction i would just laugh
because
i trust him it's the same thing with gordon lightfoot when he was listening to john prine sing and started balling i was like that is one of the coolest things ever it's obviously one of his favorite prine songs
But Gordon Lightfoot.
It's just
like a paperback novel.
Yes.
Sorry.
Huge Lightfoot fan.
We're going to talk all about that.
He's the guy, by the way, that I learned how to play the guitar.
I bought a Gordon Lightfoot songbook and just went through it and learned hundreds of others, brother.
Oh, man.
He has got so many.
He's one of my favorite songwriters.
Stuart J. Wattles is here, folks.
He covers news.
He is the news director in Southeast Wisconsin.
You can also hear him here in Green Bay.
Our question of the night is what is your favorite Steve Martin movie planes trains and automobiles one of my top 10 of all time a fat free movie on every level dropped today in 1987 and You know, it's a it's a Thanksgiving staple or just a holiday staple But it got me thinking and I wanted to ask this question.
What is your favorite Steve Martin movie?
And like I said to Stuart, there are some we've forgotten about.
Like, that's how prolific Steve Martin has been in Little Shop of Horrors, one of the textures.
Oh,
duh.
That's on my
list.
Me
too.
Exactly like you're
talking about.
Again, totally forgot about it.
It's number
one on your list.
I think so.
Yeah.
OK.
Lil' Irv on the stream says, Darren and I just watched The Godfather of Green Bay.
Loved it.
Do you wear a cup for the live scene?
I think he's talking
about
it.
We're waiting.
No judge smells.
I did not work up.
We've got another question for Lance from Mike.
I'll save that one.
A little herb says his favorite, Steve Martin movie's Parenthood.
And Sean on the stream says the jerk.
We'll get to the text line in hour number two.
Stuart J. Waddles is here, folks.
We're talking Gordon Lightfoot and we're going to talk to Edmund Fitzgerald after the news.
So great to have you with me on this Tuesday, a rainy fall Tuesday with Thanksgiving right around the corner.
What could be better?
It's Beachwabbit and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Take care if I find you then creep around my back stairs Sometimes I think it's a sin when I feel like I'm winning when I'm losing again
Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay, this is Night Light with Pete Chwaba.
Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.
And now, a guy who always looks ahead, even when parallel parking, Pete Chwaba.
Welcome back to
Night Light, ladies and gentlemen.
We are broadcasting from five to eight tonight to our new time slot an extra hour And it is great to be with you And I hope you're having a great week as we get ever closer to Thanksgiving Which is just around the corner so much to be thankful for this holiday season and that will be showcased in my nightlight window fund photo tonight that I will be posting
Probably during the next break.
Thank you all for being with me.
Aaron Zommers is in tonight for the kid Conrad Krieger who is on vacation in Florida.
Probably golfing might have the whole family around the radio listening to nightlight if he's a pal.
That is the voice of Aaron Zommers and my current guest is Stuart J. Wattles, who is the news director from southeast Wisconsin.
He has agreed to stay with us a little bit into this hour so we can have a discussion on the Edmund Fitzgerald and Gordon Lightfoot at 635 Lance Barber from Young Sheldon and the Comeback and the Godfather of Green Bay will be here.
to discuss our really cool screening that we're having next week in Madison on December 4th.
More details on that to come this hour as well.
And then the hilariously funny stand-up comedian and writer Courtney Cronin-Adould will be here at 7.20 in the third hour.
Zomers, we got some people texting in for the tickets.
Do you have the information you need?
Yeah.
Well, it's all done automatically.
So you can still text in for the whole rest of the show.
So
next week, Thursday, December 4th at 7 p.m.
doors open at 6.
Movie starts at 7.
We're going to be screening Pete's movie here in Madison, the godfather of Green Bay at Atwood Music Hall.
If you can go and you can get three other friends, family members, perhaps strangers to go with you, you can text in the word actor for your chance to win four tickets, actor, A-C-T-O-R.
Very well done my friend.
So yeah, we've got a good amount of tech so far, but you still have a shot So please text in and I would love to see you on the fourth What else do we cover?
Oh, I talked about how we can't I can't ever click out of the ads.
Yes, I can't
find the X
You
also talked about bombers hasn't seen a dumb and dumber.
That's yes.
Thank you Stuart.
That needs to be repeated.
Come
on,
man
Yeah, and I don't want to be one of those guys because I can't stand those guys like you never saw like you're less of a person or something, right?
But I in this case summers, it might be true.
Yeah, I know I acknowledge that I own that there there are some things I haven't seen that I really should Hey, me too.
It's all right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, you're telling me there's a chance.
Yes.
Oh, yes.
And I did get that at least.
All right.
So to me and I
People have fought me on this.
I think that is a near perfect new movie.
The writing is flawless.
It's and the way I here's what here's my theory of the story when Jim Carrey is daydreaming that he's charming and he's a really dumb guy He's daydreaming about being charming the way only a
Idiot's capacity would be for being charming, like lighting his own farts on fire, throwing popcorn in his face.
He's not daydreaming out of his capabilities, I guess.
And that's a testament to the character.
For
the
writing of the character is that character
is
just, it's perfect.
It's knowing what this guy was about.
It's
like he
had to be based off of somebody.
Oh, great.
It's truly one of my favorite movies.
That is the voice of Stuart J. Wattles.
Do you have a good, what are you going to do this Thanksgiving stew?
Oh, eat some turkey.
Actually, the in-laws make some ham, too.
I hope they make a ham.
They better make a ham.
But yeah, there's
cheesy broccoli casserole.
There's mashed potatoes and gravy.
So that's the in-laws tomorrow, and then we'll meet up with my family on Friday.
Is it a plus or a negative that you live close enough to have two thanksgivings?
Because I remember when my wife and I would always go to Marinette.
And we try to cram everything in.
And there are times I almost thought, I wish we lived far away so we could do our own thing, but as fun as it is.
Yeah, it's a convenient thing, having it.
We usually do it again back to back days.
Thursday, everybody watches football, so that's on in the background.
And then Friday, everybody's looking around like, it's going on, everybody.
Force of conversate.
All right, so before we get to Gordon Lightfoot and the wreck of the evidence Gerald, I promise we'll get there I thought of you when I when I clipped this earlier and it was this is off wise brother media Do these celebrities give you the ick and I'm just gonna name a celebrity stew and you tell me if that celebrity gives you the ick, okay?
Katy Perry Nick.
Oh, okay Chris Pratt No, okay
Jared Leto.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively.
I don't know enough about them to
have an
Ick or a not Ick.
I'm sure they're nice folks, maybe.
So far, I'm a Chris Pratt Ick, a Jared Leto Ick, and to Ryan Reynolds and Lively.
What about you, Zomers?
You got an opinion here?
I think Katie Perry, I'm not, but maybe I just haven't seen enough.
I don't know.
Chris Pratt, I am because, come on, they don't need to make him the lead voice actor in every single kid's movie.
Come on, Mario didn't need to be Chris Pratt.
Shut up, stop it.
He just let someone else have the role.
Jared Leto also, ick.
For a lot of
reasons,
right?
Yeah.
Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively, it's...
More complicated like I hate like a lively's character and gossip girl will love to hate her Serena van der Woodson.
She never closes her mouth
My god, I almost didn't ask you and now I'm thrilled.
I did it's not like you did homework like for an exam with these answers.
That's awesome Taylor Swift
Not it she's all right
I find myself when I'm thinking about this, so who do I really don't like and I'm comparing them and it's just, there's other folks.
You really knew.
Great point.
Justin
Timberlake.
He's indifferent.
Again, a lot of
these, I don't care.
I'm exactly, I'm right there with you on Justin Timberlake.
Really no opinion.
Alec Baldwin.
I would love to be a strong Ike on that one.
I would love to be, but I can't.
Like he's too good.
Like his work on Saturday Night Live, 30 Rock, it's too much.
I'm with you, I'm a half.
Too
much to overcome.
Shooting some lady in the face.
It's just too much to overcome, Pete.
So there is an Ike
factor.
Right.
Drake.
I don't know enough about him to have an acre or not.
I know people don't like him.
I know he's, but a lot of jokes.
And I know once we get back to our lightfoot conversation, we can bring Drake back into it.
Cause at one point they were neighbors.
Oh
really?
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
They lived close to each other.
I think they hung out.
What?
Yeah.
And this documentary I told you about lightfoot's talking about Drake.
No kidding.
He's a fan.
He likes his music.
Where are you at with this, Amherst?
Drake does seem to have a bad habit of texting young girls below the age of 18.
He's not necessarily taking things to a place that is illegal, but you shouldn't have to question that, you know, especially when you're a
celebrity.
Maybe we should watch our words then if it's not illegal sawlers.
We should dial it back and use it.
Let me tell you about the word allegedly.
The word allegedly you toss in there a little bit more and you'll be all right.
We have a newsman here to clarify.
Okay.
Uh, Gwyneth Paltrow.
I'm an Ick.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a hard Ick.
It's a company called a Goop or something like that.
Yeah.
Goop.
Nasty.
She, she captured the essence of her private parts and tried to sell it thinking it was that pretty.
So put
on the other hand, you know what, what about all the people buying that stuff?
Ick.
Yeah, that's Ick.
So same people buying Sydney Sweeney soap.
So there you go.
And then this is funny, Dan Marcus printed this up for me and he said, I left you a surprise in there and I forgot what he had said.
And then it says, Pete Schwabba.
And then the quote next to it is, shut up Conrad.
I don't know what Dan was going for.
But I'm like, how did this get into Wise Brother?
And then I remember Dan was playing a joke on me.
All right, my guess is Stuart J. Waddles, as promised, Stuart just, well, you didn't discover Gordon Lightfoot, but the Edmund Fitzgerald and some of his music, right, Stu?
Well, the anniversary came and it was playing like it always does every year, this time of year.
And then he started thinking about it.
And then you think, well, this guy had a big career.
What kind of madman is writing a song about a chipwreck and then has the gall to release it to the general public?
And then it becomes a hit.
So that got me curious about how did that whole thing happen?
And it just, he, he read a Newsweek article about the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald.
First couple lines, he didn't steal them, but he used them as inspiration.
So this Newsweek article, maybe like two paragraphs long, the song ends up beating like three times as long as the article he based it on.
It's just very strange
how it all
came about and it got me interested in like this guy.
So then he started watching live video of him and he's got some, he's got a weird affect when he sings, no?
It's like,
There's the extra s and it might be because he's a professional, like he was trained to hit the s and vibrato and it's just again a very strange situation with this whole song and how it came about.
And I don't know
if he was
already a big star at the time.
Yeah, correct.
And I don't he had written a lot of hits for Peter, Paul and Mary.
Yeah, and it could be part of his Canadian dealio working its way in there, but I agree.
He's got a, but I think that works for him as a singer.
And you're right.
You sent me information earlier.
The wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald, when it came out, made it to number two on the Billboard chart.
It's almost seven minutes long.
It's not a radio friendly song.
And then the other bit of information you shared, I'll let you break that to our listeners because you're the reporter is even cooler.
It made it even higher on the charts.
Yeah, it popped up where it was this parade article.
Yeah, nearly a half a century after its first release, it claimed a number one spot on Billboard, topped the rock digital song sales chart for the week ending November 13th, also charting if you could read my mind and sundown.
So it's just not limited to that one song.
And again, I've been going through this for the past couple of weeks.
My wife really thinks I have a think I have a problem with light foot because all I'm talking about is light foot.
Quoting lightfoot lyrics and then I read this about everybody else doing the same thing So it's like all right little reassuring telling my wife you're the one that's on the outs.
You don't get it
No, I went down that rabbit hole years and years ago with Gordon lightfoot I grew up that that's all my aunts and uncles listen to was Jim Croci lightfoot some John Prine all that stuff and I fell in love with his music I think he's one of the best songwriters one of my favorite
songs of his is early morning rain which peter paul and mary did beautifully but i like his version even better in fact there's a line in the song that says out on runway just about a guy trying to get home big 707 set to go and when i heard runway number nine sometimes i'd be on a plane and
They come over and they'd say, we'll be landing at runway 12.
And I would turn to the person next to me.
Oh, God, I hate runway 12.
And, you know, they don't know me.
Like, what's the story?
What's going on?
It's not my favorite runway.
But people, you
know,
my favorites.
But you shared a couple of tunes with me.
Zomers, let's play.
What do you want to, let's hear just a little bit.
I don't know.
You played, if you could read my mind earlier, it's kind of a downer though, but the lyrics on that one.
It just you go through it.
It's like, who is this guy writing this stuff?
And it's just it reads like a poem and there's times where again, I just shout out like like a paperback novel, like an old time movie.
But yeah, that's a great song.
Sundown is so good.
The other thing about the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald.
So the song that you know, that you love, that everybody hears all the time, that was the first take.
They played through it like kind of a little bit noodling around a little bit.
And I guess according to the stories, Gordon didn't want to even perform it.
He didn't want to put it on the album, but they had some extra time in the studio at the end of the week.
He had booked the time and they said, hey, Gord, let's run through it.
So they run through it a couple of times.
The first take they ended up using as the one they distributed.
They did three or four more.
But Gord said, yeah, the first one, that's it.
We're doing
it.
That's very cool.
That is
crazy.
And it's even more amazing.
Put this song on and put the headphones on.
Yeah.
I agree.
All right.
I want to talk to you about, if you could read my mind, we'll do that.
We'll have a couple more minutes of Stuart after this very short break.
Don't go anywhere, folks.
It's Peach Waba in
Nightlight.
Keep
going.
That is great.
Welcome back to
Nightlight.
I'm Pete Schwabber.
That is a really cool version of the Edmund Fitzgerald.
Kind of a lounge.
That's like Bill Murray would do that on Saturday Night Live.
It's Nick Tease,
right?
Yes.
Richard Tease.
I had never heard of that before today and I sent it to Zommer.
I had never heard that before.
It's so great.
Richard Tease.
Have you
heard any of it?
Yeah, go ahead, Zomers.
He has a lot of stuff like that where he takes songs that are very, I'll say, you know, about delicate subjects or very angry songs or very sad songs.
And then he'll perform them like that, such as Rape Me by Nirvana.
And he starts
it off by
saying, this one's for the ladies.
And like, it's just kind of like the Dan band.
Right.
That's
like, my name is Luca.
I live on the second floor.
But
it's like top-notch swing professionals.
They're like really real musicians and it's a great interpretation.
Oh, it's so great.
Stuart Wattles is here just for a couple more minutes.
I promise we're going to let him get on with his evening here.
Stuart, Terry Barr, our pal said, hey, where did Gordon Lightfoot write it?
This is something, a stream comment she wrote in.
She said, people have often claimed Madison, but I haven't found that info.
Then she says, and after seeing the documentary, the same one you saw, I assume, she says, the song takes on a new meaning.
Stuart, I am re-obsessed.
Yeah,
he's running
the Toronto apartment.
That's what I kept coming across when I was looking up and researching it.
I want to say, this is one, if you could read my mind, there's a, I'll send you this link later.
There's a version of him doing that song when he's like, I think he was 73 at the time.
And you can look his fingers like don't quite.
Get the chords as much he has a little bit of a I think he had Parkinson's He has long hair his face looks so weathered and it's so beautiful like he's just this guy this troubadour this like he's the guy he's always saying about and He did that version of that song if you could read my mind and it's so beautiful I'll send that to you, but he said he changed the lyric because of his daughter Yeah, the lyric used to be the feeling that you lack he changed that because
his daughter said, you know, dad, that sounds kind of sexist.
So he changed it and he said the feeling that we lack.
I thought that was really cool about a guy just evolving, you know.
Yeah.
And to take that in and just, I think about the daughter who's processing this all, like the daughter rears the song and listens to it all.
And then like has to, has comfortable enough to say, Hey dad, what about this?
Not just
shy away.
So there's like, there's this extremely emotional song that kind of gets taken to another level when you hear a little nugget like that.
He also put some words in the in the wreck.
Some of the families were upset about some of the hatches weren't closed properly.
And he changed the work regarding that.
Also, it turned from a musty old hall into a rustic old hall because the people at the Detroit Maritime Museum said, hey, it's not so musty.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
Was that a documentary or just some research you
did?
It might have been just in some research.
But it's even love that.
The other thing about that Detroit thing is that there just happened to be a reporter for like the LA Times walking by that church in Detroit at that moment when the bells are ringing.
because of that tragedy.
That guy goes and writes an article.
It gets back and published somewhere.
Gordon Lightfoot reads that to add to his story.
So just because some writer happened to be walking by this church and it's ringing 29 times, that gets back to the song.
And it's just a lot of happenstance.
It makes it very interesting.
Very interesting.
And maybe you know the answer to this based on the research you did.
But years and years ago, I remember hearing that
that Lake Superior, these sailors in the Great Lakes sometimes have to be more skilled than the ocean because the Great Lakes, apparently what happened, or one theory, is that the Edmundford's Jail went up so high on a wave.
It came down and cracked in two on the lake bed on the floor of the lake.
Is that sound right?
That's that's Fox six in Milwaukee did for this anniversary put out a documentary.
So that was kind of just more of the shipwreck end of things.
But that's one of the things that's postulated.
There's also a theory that they ran a ground on some shoals that were around one of the islands there.
that the other ship that was accompanying it didn't hit it, but they thought that this one, they might have hit this, which caused the leak.
If you do want to watch that documentary that Stuart mentioned, the one on Fox six, it is available on YouTube for free.
Yeah.
I think
it's called deals in
November.
I think it's correct.
That's awesome.
Stuart, thank you.
Thank you for hanging in there with me long enough to get to this topic.
I had a lot I wanted to talk to you about.
So I really appreciate your time tonight and thanks for
having me on.
I'm glad you're on and drive time.
Yeah.
Have a great Thanksgiving, buddy, and hi to the family and keep up the great work here at Civic Media.
It's outstanding.
Thanks, bud.
Take care.
See you as honors.
We got it.
Adios.
Oh, it's Stuart J. Watt.
I'll check out his work if you're in southeast Wisconsin on WRJ and or here in northeast Wisconsin.
You can hear him on WGBW, doing the news and breaking all the stories that we need to know about.
Great stuff.
Lance Barber will be here in just a few minutes.
He is famously, he played young Sheldon's dad.
What a great role.
So, uh, he was also on the comeback.
He's done a Christopher guest movie and he was in the Godfather Green Bay, which we'll play next week.
And we'll talk about his time on the set.
We had a great time.
He still calls me balls.
I don't really, I've just learned to accept it.
Um, but we'll have Lance on in just a few minutes.
And then, uh, Courtney crown and doled.
We'll be here at seven 20.
Let's bang out a couple of these, uh, stream comments.
So what do you say?
We got a little herb says love scene.
I don't know what he's talking about there.
That must be
another, uh, Steve, I bet.
It might be from the jerk because he learned what his special purpose was.
I think that's what little Irv is talking about.
Sydney politics says, every time you single out people in the question of the day, I think they passed away.
Sorry, Sydney.
No, we do that all the time.
Someone's got a big enough body of work where we can just make the question about them and what is your favorite work of theirs?
That's kind of what we do.
Sydney says, thank goodness I was wrong.
Cheaper by the dozen.
Great one.
Sydney politics says, you're right, Dave.
All right, we are coming right back with Lance Barber.
After the news, it's Pete Schwabba and Nightlight.
Great to have you with me on the Civic Media Radio
Network.
Welcome back.
It is a beautiful balmy rainy night here in the state of Wisconsin as we broadcast statewide from gorgeous downtown Green Bay.
Thanksgiving right around the corner, folks.
Life is good, and it is great to have you here as we talk about the things in life that make us happy, like movies, TV, comedy, music.
Stuart J. Waddell's love of Gordon Lightfoot.
And now we turn our attention to a good friend of mine who I just think the world of this guy, he is one of our favorites here.
He was the star of one of the stars of Young Sheldon, the comeback with Lisa Kudrow.
And of course, the godfather of Green Bay, Mr. Lance Barber.
Hey, buddy.
Hi everybody
gobble gobble
It's good to hear your voice.
How
are you tight?
Nice to hear you too.
I will how are you my friend?
Doing great.
I understand you are you're taking the tribe the tribe across country Is this a Griswold family type trip or what's happened?
Yeah, this is this is our annual nightmare.
It is really
really playing out as it should be you know somebody's got to get sick and then the weather has to be really horrendous as this storm approaches across the southwest portion of the Great Lakes area so um we'll see how we fare but um all right no it's wonderful it's wonderful we're all we're lucky to be home with family every year and we still get to do that no we say
Good, sweet old Michigan.
That's awesome, buddy.
It's great to hear your
boy
say Lance.
Do you have a favorite Steve Martin movie?
I really love The Man With Two Brains.
Oh, dude, that was my runner up.
Was that your runner up?
It was.
Well, I went with plane trains and I'm going to be honest with you.
I barely remember the man with two brains.
That was that was that was a joke.
thinking it might get a laugh from you.
I barely remember that movie.
Yeah, I remember it, but it's definitely not my favorite.
I mean, I think I love playing strange.
Everybody does.
But the performance there, the whole movie as a whole is just so funny and moving in the whole thing.
And I love seeing Steve Martin play an uptight guy, you know, as opposed to a wild and crazy guy.
So absolutely.
Yeah, he's good.
Great
answer, buddy.
So let's jump in.
I think I gave you some details.
We're having a screening of the Godfather of Green Bay a week from Thanksgiving, December 4th at the Atwood Music Hall, this brand new beautiful facility in Madison.
It's for part of the proceeds go to the Dane County Humane Society, and it was a co-worker's idea.
And
I
said, sure, let's do it.
So that's why I wanted to have you on.
I just wanted to kind of jump back and take you down memory lane a little bit and You know talk for a few minutes about the godfather of green bay as well as a few other things you have going on So it's great to have you here
Nice to be here and I'm glad that you're using that wonderful movie for such a good things So
yeah,
I wish I could be I was in if I was still in the great lakes next week.
I'd come join you and
and watch
Well, it's funny you say that because remember I was a guest on the show directors cut which I ended up hosting taking over the hosting gig when the other hosts stepped down you drove up I think from Chicago and we're on the show with me and we've got to walk around State Street a little bit so I have great memories of you Hanging out in Madison with me.
It was a lot of fun.
Yeah, it was my first time hanging out in Madison So I have a strong and positive memory of that time as well.
That was a lot of fun I've seen I've watched that recently.
It's online somewhere or I have it
But I still have that shirt.
And that's awesome.
But
yeah.
But I remember that finally as well.
Yeah.
So what are your overall thoughts?
I remember when we cast you in that movie, it was so much fun.
And we had looked at all these these probably read 50 actors for that role of Kenny Caruso.
And you came in and we had a meeting that night and I wanted I thought you were my favorite by far.
And the
the other two producers jumped in and said, you were on another level.
And you were, you were so good Lance.
And I just, it was so much fun having you on the set.
You were as much fun off camera as you were on and you just brought great energy.
So to this day, I'm thankful we found you.
Well, I'm just a really terrific human being.
You know, there's something about me is what they say.
There's something about him.
And I can't put my finger on it.
It doesn't have a name, perhaps, but I'm just exceptional in regards to anyone else in the human race.
So you lucked out getting me, kid.
I wouldn't have phrased it like
that, but I agree.
Oh, no.
Oh, thank you.
That was very open.
Absolutely.
I appreciate the heapings on.
I remember the audition well because I remember you, and I remember you being familiar.
And I have a couple of other friends who I'm tight with who I met in LA, but they were actually Midwestern guys and the culture and the sensibilities and the sense of humor were familiar to me.
And it felt, and it was just that natural thing.
We hit it off because.
And of course, knowing what the subject matter was, the comedy at the time of the movie, and it being having something to do with the Great Lakes Midwest area, where we're both from,
was appealing and so like such a I remember being so excited to get that job just because it was a job I had nothing I had nothing at the time and and then it was a job that was gonna take me home so to speak you know and and we went home and again to that familiarity going back to where we shot in Marinette and
up in that whole area was, again, just so familiar, so comfortable in regards to the culture of the people and then to be with that wacky group of folks was a ball.
I recently, one of the memories was being in the parking lot and seeing the Northern Lights for the first time one evening.
Do you recall this?
Yeah.
I do.
That was one of the few things I was part of because typically I was so tired I went back to my parents place where I was staying and crashed, but that night I missed out on a lot of fun, but that night I was there and that was spectacular.
Yeah, that was a really cool memory.
We all just gathered and quietly watched in the parking lot of the bar that we shot in.
And this summer I took my kids up over, we had a family reunion in northern Wisconsin, and we drove up over the UP and went through that area.
And so I had a lot of nostalgia and tried to show them.
We actually went through there and I couldn't find the bar, but it burned
down.
It burned down.
Yeah, it was one of the very mysterious, the amount of bars.
And the Marinette Menominee area that are subject to fire when business starts
to slow
down.
I can't explain it, but that one bit the
dust, unfortunately.
They ordered your clothes for retirement.
Yeah,
yeah.
That's such great stuff.
Thank you for saying all that because it kind of is bringing me down memory lane too.
And I loved, you know, one of the coolest things that I knew we cast the right guy because, you know,
There was my first big role like that and it was great having you there to not only kind of carry me through the movie but also to say Offscreen people are like oh you guys go way back, huh?
And I was like no we just met like we cast Lance he we were not friends We just found Lance through the casting process So I felt like we had made a really good choice when people said that kind of stuff because I thought we had good chemistry which was fun
I agree people said the same to me.
Yes, and it was that familiarity thing.
I think yeah, we made each other laugh.
Yeah
Absolutely.
My guest is Lance Barber.
He is one of the stars of, yes, the Godfather of Green Bay, but also a young Sheldon, where he played George Cooper, young Sheldon's father.
And you can look for Lance on the reboot of the comeback.
Lance, I've got a question here from one of the cast members of the Godfather of Green Bay, Mike DeSatell.
Says, uh, questions for Lance.
Any chance you'll make an appearance in George and Mandy's first marriage?
Would you be up for a sequel to the Godfather of Green Bay?
I think you're one of the all-time great TV dads.
Can you share the story of how you appeared at your funeral in Young Sheldon?
You could do that, Lance, if you're
willing.
I mean, Mike, just load it.
Just that, that one's... How much time do we have?
We'd have to make this a
mini-series.
Why don't you pick the question you want to answer, the George and Mandy's first marriage or the sequel to Godfather of Green Bay?
I already did a Georgian-Mandy thing in the first season.
It's probably the only one I'll do.
And they invited me back for a dream sequence, which I thought was the most part-touching way to revisit George.
Otherwise, it feels shark-jumpy and unnecessary.
So I was happy to do that.
And that'll probably be that.
I think
So let's get down.
I don't know about that.
Dude,
you said something
so funny.
Oh, go ahead, Lance.
Sorry.
No, no, I don't remember what I was saying.
Go
ahead.
Mike Siegel, a friend of ours, and one of my best friends did a behind the scenes look at the Godfather of Green Bay.
It's out there on YouTube.
I think you could just Google behind the scenes, Godfather of Green Bay.
It's a 20 minute YouTube video where he interviewed Tony Goldman and Lauren Holly and Eric Price and Steve Siegelman and you and you said.
He said, what do you think of Pete's directing abilities?
And you said, I think Pete's got a very bright future.
Not directing, of course, but it was just a beautiful
moment.
And
into that thing where all we did was break each other up.
It was so much fun.
And I'm indebted to Mike for making that video because it was great.
But were you amazed?
Honestly, I haven't been on a ton of movie sets, Lance, but the amount of people, the amount of comedians we had.
between you, Lennon, Eric Price, Steve Seager, Mike Seager, Mike Toomey, Jimmy Pardo, Rob Martin, all these guys.
I've never been around that much funny.
And to this day, I still haven't.
Now you've been in some really big projects.
You could probably talk differently to that, but we had a really talented group, didn't we?
Oh, it was unbelievable.
It was literally a laugh riot.
And it was different than you might find in a club or whatever.
But we were all there.
together doing this thing.
And it was it was just destined to be fun.
Right.
Yeah.
And in that with with that setting and with that company that you just listed was just I smile at the at the memory of it.
I smile and laugh at a lot of things that we won't share on this radio show of things that were indelible in my mind of making me laugh to like ride and hard not to in that company.
So
Yeah, I mean, it sets in such a great place in my, especially being so young in my career.
It was just the perfect job with the perfect people.
It really was.
It was so much fun.
And I don't imagine, for myriad reasons, that you just, some of it had to do with youth and all of the other things of it being kind of a, let's get the gang together to do a show on the barn field, you know what I mean?
Being an independent thing.
And I don't know if I'll be a part of something that was that kind of fun again.
It was the perfect storm for that kind of
fun.
It absolutely was.
And I want to share Tom Lennon was on the show last night talking about the screening next week.
And I pointed out a scene that he had kind of forgotten about.
It was he and Tracy Thorpe in a booth at closing time.
and he
asked
if he could touch her boobs and she said no and then she looked at her watch a minute later like the scene plays on beautifully but we have another that booth was so special because you and me and Steve Sieger and Lauren Holly probably Lenin and Tracy Thorper in that booth and Eric Price came
Walking over his name his character name was rat boy, but I don't think we ever said that during the movie But you knew it and he's shaking his butt Yeah, and you would probably just had a shot.
He said hey rat and you're you're laughing before you could even get the line out It was such a beautiful moment of the hysterics we were in
My guest is Lance Barber.
We're going to do a really short break and then we'll keep Lance just for a couple more minutes.
He's taking the tribe cross country or at least through Michigan, but he's here on nightlight tonight and we'll be right back with a couple more minutes with Lance Barber on nightlight with Pete Schwab on the Civic Media radio network.
you
We've been running away from something we both know.
We've long run out of things to say, and
I think I better go.
All right, welcome back.
I'm Pete Schwab, and this is Night Like That.
It's Jim Croci.
My current guest, Lance Barber, and I sort of have a, I don't know, you call it a man crush lance in the most innocent way possible on Jim Croci?
Oh no, it's more than that, but you can you know, you say what you have to but I'm in love
with it Lance digs him in the big way Yeah, we both do
it was fun.
You I remember you played your guitar During a break and you played that song and it's always stayed with me just a great memory from the set But I also tried to get Kurt Newman of the Bodines to come to Madison who they did such a great job with the soundtrack and Kurt wrote that score But he was touring and all that so I thought my second
My second vote would be get if we hit the budget I would get Lance Barber there to play the guitar and warm people up for the audience because that was a really fun memory Not
even joking I would do it.
Yeah, but you don't have the budget so I don't have the budget I'll
give you airfare and a per diem to get you to Madison to play three songs
Lance Barber is here from Young Sheldon and the comeback.
Lance, tell us about the comeback.
Is there's a reboot, I guess?
That's none of your business.
It's a third season of the comeback, and I have a little bit to do with it.
I was on the first two seasons.
And it's a span of 20 years for three seasons of the show.
It's got a really neat, I think, place in TV history.
It was a fun show for me to be a part of it.
I'm proud to get back and be a part of the third one in a small way.
But they finished shooting and it comes out next year sometime in the spring.
So I'm really excited about it just because you know, the legacy of the show and the character a lot.
It's a great show definitely check out the show and check out Lance's work in it Lance Lauren Holly is gonna be on the show next week.
Do you have a message?
I could I could relate to Lauren other than you know
say I tell her hey balls.
I
Hey, she got in on that
she called
herself balls three Which sounds strange, but yeah, no she
And oh, by the way, Tom Lennon was on last night.
And when he heard we played your tag coming back from a break, you said you're listening to Nightlight with Pete Schwabals.
And when Tom heard that, he wanted to recut his.
So he said Schwabals do, which is apparently the new way to pronounce my last name, which is fine with me.
That's amazing.
Now, my
my question is you have said that.
Or it has been said by a listener that you must have a wet mouth to correctly pronounce Schwabba.
But what about Schwabballs?
Schwabballs, you don't have to wet
your lips before you
sit.
No.
You don't have to wet your lips before you say it, but they'll be wet after.
So.
Classic barber.
Dude,
this was
fun.
Thank you for taking the time, Lance.
Get back to your family.
Have a great Thanksgiving.
I miss you, pal, and I love you.
Happy Thanksgiving to you and Lauren Holly and everybody else, and always good to talk to you, Pete, and I'll talk to you soon.
You got it.
All right, Lance Barber, everybody.
Check out his work on the comeback on Young Sheldon.
And you can see his work next Thursday night, December 4th at the Atwood Music Hall.
He is part of the cast of The Godfather of Green Bay and an integral part.
Very funny and just a huge fan.
So great to talk to Lance.
Courtney Cronin-Dole, ladies and gentlemen, is coming up at 7.20.
Very funny comedian and writer.
I had the pleasure of working with Courtney on Sports Soup on the writing staff.
and just love her.
So she's great.
We're going to read some texts.
How are we doing on time, Erin?
Can I get a text in here?
Are we way behind?
On texts, I don't believe so.
OK, good.
We've got a call.
All right.
Craig Kinit on the stream says, I love Steve Martin.
His comedies are classic, The Jerk, Plains, Trains, and Automobiles, Three Amigos, Roxanne.
But my favorite is more of a drama, parenthood.
That film brings me to tears.
Well done, Craig.
Thank you, sir.
Appreciate that.
Great to hear from you, Craig.
Craig had a great showing of his film, Daniel Needs to Leave, in Waiwiga last week, or two weeks ago now.
Great fun.
A lot of fun in his film Crushed.
Terry Ryan in the 414 says, dirty rotten scoundrels.
Yes, Terry, I'm totally with you.
In fact, that's probably my second favorite Steve Martin movie.
I absolutely love dirty rotten scoundrels with Michael Cain.
It might be Steve Martin's funniest performance, because like Lance said, Steve Martin is like, you know, plays uptight really well, but man, he plays just a goofball in Dirty Rotten Scoundrels.
And he's great.
Jim from Brookfield in the 262 says, Good evening, Pete.
Father of the Bride is my favorite Steve Martin movie.
It has a good storyline with lots of humor.
As a father of two daughters, I can relate to it.
Well, that's why we love movies, right, Jim?
That's outstanding.
Thank you, buddy, for the text.
Appreciate that.
Brett from Brown Deer.
Plains, trains, and automobiles is his best, but if I had to pick another, I would choose Sergeant Bilko.
I've never seen Sergeant Bilko.
Somers, that's my Dumb and Dumber.
Is it?
I feel like it's not quite as, probably not.
Not as many people have seen that as Dumb and Dumber.
You're probably right about that.
Dumb and Dumber crushed at the box office.
1994, baby.
John Murray from Madison in the 608 says, the jerk was my fave, Steve Martinflick.
Remember his dog?
We can't say his dog's name on TV.
Let's call it on the radio.
Let's call him crap head or lack of a better I think you guys can figure out what Steve Martin's dog Yeah, but the jerk was great.
That was like one of those movies.
I saw it was probably like in seventh grade or whatever It's like man, I don't know if I should be watching this like
there's a lot of
like sex stuff and but it was very funny
Yeah, I saw a parent fairly young and there are also moments in that one that are not suitable for children in parenthood
I don't remember what they were, but I remember my mom being like, let's not watch this anymore.
I don't know, kidding.
John continues and says, my God, Plains Trains is a close second.
I fell in love with Steve's first album first.
What a great entertainer.
Totally agree, John Murray from Madison.
We are coming right back.
The keyword is actor, A-C-T-O-R.
If you want to win free tickets to The Godfather of Green Bay Screening next Thursday night in Madison, we're coming right back.
It's Peach Wabba and Nightlight.
Act 3 is next.
If that's the way that you want it, well that's the way I want it more.
Cause everyone lets set a footsteps on your floor in the morning.
Cause everyone lets set a footsteps on your floor in the morning.
Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.
This is Night Light with Pete Chwaba.
Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.
And now, a guy who appreciates a nice hot meal at a fair price.
Pete Chwaba.
Welcome back to Night
Light, ladies and gentlemen.
It is time for Active.
three on this Tuesday before Thanksgiving episode version, whatever you want to call it, of Nightlight.
I am Pete Schwabba and it is so, I just love that you're here.
We're building up to Thanksgiving.
What is more fun than a major holiday right around the corner?
We have the anticipation sometimes of children.
If you're hurting this holiday season though, I hate to hear that and please reach out to a loved one.
and try to find something to be grateful for, if nothing else, that there are people in your life who love you.
So I hope everyone has a great Thanksgiving.
I will be off Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and back live on the air on Monday, again, with Mr. Aaron Sommers.
How are you, sir?
Doing
well.
Glad to be here.
And looking forward to Monday as well.
It's always fun being on Nightlight with Pete Schwala.
Dude, it is awesome having you and thank you for filling in for the K-man who is on vacation in Florida We've had a great show so far.
It's been a lot of fun talking to our pal Stuart J waddles the civic media newsman We talked about the Edmund Fitzgerald a little bit with Stuart and then my pal Lance Barbara came on of young Sheldon fame and The comeback and season three of the comeback will be on shortly check your local listings
Actually, did he say one that's coming on?
I don't know if I remember if he did.
Yeah But I think it's worth a Google great show very funny show and Lance can be seen in the Godfather of Green Bay, which we are screening next week in Madison I'll give you some more information on that.
How are we doing on the free tickets?
Do we I know we had quite a few texts.
I hope there are they gone
There's uh, it will not decide until after the show because oh you can still text in you still have a chance till the end of the show tonight
Give them that screen name, please, my friend.
The key word, if you will.
Yeah, if any of you are listening and you can make it next week, Thursday, to the screening of The Godfather in Green Bay.
The Godfather of Green Bay.
The screening is not in Green Bay.
The screening is in Madison at Atwood Music Hall.
Doors open at six, movie starts at seven.
You can hang out with Pete Schwabba, or at least ask him some questions.
And the key word to text in on the Civic Media app for four tickets is actor.
ACTOR actor for your chance to win four tickets to the screening next week.
Otherwise, they're not too expensive tickets.
If you don't win, you should still show up.
It's 10 bucks, I believe.
10 bucks and part of the proceeds go to the Dane County Humane Society.
So it's for a great cause.
John and Gordy will be there.
My civic media, older brothers, they're going to introduce me.
They're going to host a Q&A afterwards.
The music was by the Bo Deans.
This is a total Wisconsin movie.
We shot it in northeast Wisconsin Years and years ago 20 years ago now a little over 20 years and the film came out and was in blockbuster and all the video stores We had a great run It's kind of a cult classic I would say that's what other people tell me it is so I can live with that but Lauren Holly Tony Goldman Lance Barbara Tom Lennon me
Eric Price from Milwaukee, Rob Martin from Milwaukee, Steve Seager, Mike Siegel, Jimmy Parto, great cast, and a really fun, feel-good movie, the perfect way to kick off the holidays and music by the Bodines.
It should be a really fun evening in Madison next Thursday night.
So we've got people, we'll give the tickets too if you want to text in.
The keyword is actor, A-C-T-O-R, as Zommer's just told you, and it was really fun to talk to Lance Barber.
Courtney Cronin-Dold will be coming up in about 10 minutes.
She's a very funny comedian.
And I was part of a staff with her, a writing staff at Sportsoup on Comcast years ago.
We had a lot of fun working on that show together.
Matt Eisman was the host.
Courtney's a very funny comic as well.
So that will be fun to catch up with Courtney.
And what am I missing, Zomers?
Am I missing something?
I feel like I've got more information for the people.
I do.
Next Tuesday, folks, is Giving Tuesday.
Are you going to give, Zomers?
I don't know.
I honestly...
I know it's been around for a long time, but I'm not too familiar with Giving Tuesday.
This is not just me saying it, so you'll explain it to the listeners.
I legitimately am not super familiar with it.
You set me up.
Well, Civic Media believes this is a special impactful and essential day.
Our stations across the state will be highlighting and raising money for local organizations.
It's all about local folks and making a difference.
Listen to civic media throughout the day on December 2nd and learn how you can support your community that is next Tuesday We also have a text-to-win contest coming up here at civic media one of our really fun multi-state text-to-win Contests that starts Monday December 1st.
So we'll have all kinds of information Great prizes went up to $200 a day and some big they were calling them adult prizes And I didn't know what to make of that at the meeting summers.
It sounded like it was sort of an adult
Weird thing, but it's not.
They're just like prizes for big people, right?
Right.
Yeah, that's that's my understanding at least Nothing weird.
The only thing is you have to have the civic media app to play so make sure you have that by Monday folks and we will be off to the races Our question of the night still got an hour of show left here before we take our little Thanksgiving break is what is your favorite Steve Martin movie planes trains and automobiles was released on this day in 1987 Tyler in the 608 says the dentist
In the movie, the little shop of horrors.
Bill Murray loved his gentle touch.
That is such a great movie.
Another one of the great Steve Martin roles you kind of forget about.
Rick Moranis was hilarious in it.
Jim from Kenosha in the 262 says, I think it was called the sign where he talked to the road sign.
The sign where he talked to the road sign.
Did I miss part of this text, Somers?
I want to get it right.
I don't know.
I'm going to take a look and see if I can find what he's talking about.
Jim
and
Justice here.
Yeah, a text back, Jim, if you want to clarify.
But thank you for the text.
I think it might be LA Story, the signpost.
Oh, LA
Story, yeah.
Did he already text that?
Did I miss that?
Sorry about that, Jim.
LA Story is a great satire about living in LA.
It's kind of funny.
Sarah Jessica Parker is in it.
And I do remember there was one line where Steve Martin
They were kind of starting to kiss and get it on a little bit and he says your breasts feel really strange and she says oh, they're real So it's a nice poke Pokes fun at LA very nice good movie Harry from Tosa in the 414 says all of me with Lily Tomlin Great one.
That's the second time we've heard all of me.
I think tonight Jim from the 920 here in Appleton says favorite movie
Hmm.
Well, my favorite part was Maxwell of Silver Hammer fame and Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club band.
The movie is probably Roxanne.
Okay.
Roxanne is another one I forgot about, and I just rewatched that like three years ago.
That's a really funny Steve Martin movie, and it kind of holds up.
It's slightly dated, but Daryl Hanna plays his love interest, and it's a satire of Cyrano de Bergerac.
Great movie, and a really great 1980s movie.
Chris Casper.
Oh, I wish I had seen this earlier.
He says some Gordon Lightfoot.
I cannot tell you how much I love that song.
It makes me cry every damn time.
So thanks for making me cry, Pete.
It's nice to make Casper cry for something that does not have to do with engineering because I pester the living daylights out of him.
I'm sure he's cried himself to sleep with Schwabba requests.
So I'm happy to make you cry in a different way, Chris.
Great to hear from you, buddy.
Where are we here Janet from Madison LA story?
Probably because I was living in LA at the time it came out and it was enjoyable to actually get all of the inside jokes totally with you that was before I moved to LA Janet and I you're right once I moved out there so much more about that made sense same thing with the big Lebowski sort of You still have time folks if you want to text in what is your favorite Steve Martin movie?
That is our question of the night here
Melissa from the 608 says dirty rotten scoundrels.
Totally with you, Melissa.
Love that movie.
As I said before, it's probably my second favorite Steve Martin movie.
Thank you for the text.
From the 818, our pal Bridget says planes, trains, and automobiles.
Such a great story, great holiday movie.
Love the music and acting, of course.
Zomers, that's the second time you played a couple songs from that soundtrack.
And it has a very underrated soundtrack.
It does.
There's
just so many parts of that movie that impress themselves on your brain, and you don't forget.
And the music is one of
them.
That's a great point, and you're absolutely right.
I remember the first time I saw that movie, I was in my dorm room at DePaul University, and I laughed hysterically.
John from the 608 RPEL, John Murray, says, hate to say it, and it won't be popular, but it's time for Wisconsin to adopt the DUI test that Dr.
Oh, Mel Mahay went through in The Man with Two Brains.
No more getting 11 of them in a lifetime.
That's hilarious.
And you're very right.
And I thought Lance Barber said The Man with Two Brains and he was joking, but I love that movie.
And there are some great lines in it.
And I don't know if you remember this, John.
His name was Dr. No, his name was Dr. Michael Afar.
Afar.
You had to say it like that.
And then when they're...
The interviewer said, how's that spelled?
And he's like, just like it sounds.
F-A-F-U-H-U-H-U-H-U-R.
And his love interest was An-O-L-Melmahey.
That's so goofy and so Steve Martin.
Maybe that movie captures the essence of Steve Martin better than any other, whether it's the best movie or not, who knows.
Do we have Ollie, Erin?
Yeah, we do have Ollie.
Oh, we have Ollie from the Northwoods.
Hello, Ollie.
Good evening.
Hi Pete.
I actually don't know anything about Steve Martin's movies.
Oh wow.
I worked all my life so I didn't get to really watch movies.
Oh man.
And I don't have TV so I still don't get to watch movies.
But I did want to, after I talked to you last night, then you got to talking about the Sputnik and I thought,
Oh, I wish I would have known you were going to say something about that.
I wanted to let you know that we lived in Germany when Russia put Sputnik up and my sister made a mural on our front window and she put Sputnik there in
Can foil and she won a prize from the stars and stripes So I thought that might be interesting That's awesome Yeah, I love
that Ali you just said you've worked your whole life and good for you and I love that you listen to the show I almost don't want to encourage you to watch TV because I feel like it would take you away from Nightlight and I certainly don't want that but I think you've earned a few movies
I don't have a TV, so I guess no movies for me, but but oh
man,
we're gonna listen to my civic radio all the time.
Well, we are very lucky to have you.
Thank you so much for the phone call tonight.
Ollie, have a great Thanksgiving.
You guys both to have a nice Thanksgiving too.
Well, thank you.
Thank you so much, Ollie.
Have a great Thanksgiving yourself and have a great night.
Thank you,
Ollie.
Oh love, Ollie.
Zomers do we have time to play what any of your board game stuff?
I you went to all that trouble and I feel like sometimes I just keep yackin and
I don't think there's enough time right now because just the clips are a little over two and a half minutes and I would have to explain it okay, but I Will at least be playing it on the John and Gordy show in the afternoon later in the week so
okay
for those
Are they not taking a break?
They are I just mean I'm gonna play it on one of the days that they're taking a
break.
Oh, I gotcha
OK, so for those of you listening, what it is is I had a board game night with my some of my friends last week and recorded asking them, you know, what's your favorite board or card game to play in the holidays?
And why?
And they had some great answers, all very different games, all for very different reasons.
And it was so great because like you mentioned, that was one of our questions of the night.
I think it was last week.
What is your favorite board game?
Because it was National Monopoly Day.
So it was perfect timing.
But maybe we can squeeze some of that in the in the last segment or after we talk to Courtney a little bit.
This is Night Light with Pete Schwabba.
It is great to have you here, folks.
We have our final guest of the evening is right around the corner.
She's a very talented comedian and writer, and her name is Courtney Cronindold, and she's coming up after this very short break.
It's Night Light with Pete Schwabba.
Welcome back Hey, it's night like with peach wava so fun to have you with me folks.
This is my last show before a quick Thanksgiving break and I appreciate you spending your evening with me on this gorgeous rainy night here in the beautiful state of Wisconsin Wherever you're joining me from in Wisconsin or beyond.
Thank you so much for being here and helping us Go into the break our little holiday break here in style.
We had a great time with
Lance Barber earlier and Stuart Waddles.
And now I'm very excited to welcome this next guest as well.
She and I had the pleasure, it was my pleasure anyway, of working with her on a show called Sports Soup, a funny look at sports.
And she was there for me day one and I got to know her in the writer's room.
It was just great.
She's a very funny comedian and a very talented writer.
Miss Courtney Cronin-Dole.
Hello,
Courtney.
Hi, Pete.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
You look great.
Look at you.
I'm
in my little office.
I don't want to brag, but I share it with a washer and dryer.
It's all right.
You can do a lot worse.
Just don't open the lid when you do something that where sound is
affected.
I'm like smushed up against the wall so you can't
see
it.
You could have a gentle cycle in right now and I would have no idea because your microphone has been good.
True.
Hey, this is fun.
I want to tell you before we start, well, first I have to ask you, do you have a favorite, our question of the night, we do this every night here.
Do you have a favorite Steve Martin movie?
Yes.
Steve Martin is like one of my favorites.
When I saw that that was your question of the night, I was like, oh my God, I got a.
Narrow it down.
Okay.
So his most endearing like where you love him the most parenthood
He's
so great and then the most silly and ridiculous.
I'm a lonely guy fan Why don't you just grow it long in the back and swoop it over?
I think that's what the swoop it over conversation in that movie is one of the funniest scenes I've ever seen
I totally forgot about the lonely guy.
Like he's got such a body of work.
I've forgotten some of his great roles like in a little shop of horrors and you know the jerk and dirty rotten scoundrels and dead men don't work flat.
Wasn't Charles Groden in the lonely guy too?
It's him
and Charles Groden
and
Judith Ivy.
It's so good.
It did have a scene where
Where the guys that eat by themselves, they put cardboard cutouts around them so that they don't feel like losers.
They have cardboard cutouts to put in their house to look like they have company.
That is so great.
A great choice, Courtney.
And you know what's interesting is I do remember the director of that film was Arthur Hiller, who was the guy you would always see at the Oscars with the crazy white hair.
And you go, who is that guy?
Like you just thought he was like an Oscar hanger on, but no, he was like a real director and he directed the lonely guy.
Great show.
Okay, cool.
Yeah, it's, it's, I feel like I need to watch it tonight now.
Yeah.
I feel like I've got a whole, a whole bunch of them I need to watch here, thanks to our listeners.
But I want to ask you this too.
This is funny because we have, I have a very good friend here at Civic Media named Terry Barr.
who does all these great features here.
We have a segment every Friday night called Bar Band Friday because she's tied into the music scene and she brings new music.
She is awesome.
And she said, please ask Courtney about the Kiss Cruise landlocked in Vegas.
We were both there.
I met her at one in Nashville.
So how do you like that?
Oh, wait.
Okay.
So then we, we, if we were in Nashville at a Kiss thing, then we met at Creatures Fest.
Okay.
Terry, does that sound right?
Let us know.
As soon as you
said her name, I'm like, why do I know her?
As soon as
you said her name.
OK.
Well, I didn't actually work the actual event.
I hosted the pre-party, which featured a Spraley's band.
And
in the process of planning that evening, he passed away.
Oh, Mike.
So that was really recently.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
October 16th.
So it ended up becoming a life celebration for Ace and his band playing together for the first time since he passed.
Wow.
So it was, and those guys are my good friends.
I've gone to see, I think I've gone to see Ace.
Ace and Trickster probably more than anyone in the last five, six years.
No
kidding.
I'm friendly with them all, and so wherever I am, if I'm anywhere near them, I'll go.
And Ace's band was my favorite thing.
They're so great.
Ace was smart.
He always surrounded himself with incredible musicians, and
their shows
were always such a highlight, always so much fun.
That's what the evening became.
So I hosted that and I was supposed to do stand up, but it was now became a cancer benefit and a life celebration
for Ace.
So
we can't be like Ace tribute video, donate to cancer and now comedy.
So we
didn't
really do it that way, but I knew most of the people, I knew everyone in it and I knew most of the people that were there.
So I was just like a friendly voice, you know, helping move things along.
you know more
than anything
and and just you know really just tastefully moving things along bringing a little bit of humor where it was necessary one of those kind of things you know where
i'm pretty
good at making it not about me i'm really good at that i should probably get a little worse at that maybe i wouldn't be next to the washing machine
but it reminds me what you just said about about doing comedy at a life celebration and a cancer thing was when Homer Simpson had to do
Mr. Burns's roast and the Smithers introduces him and said, I just want to inform you all that a small puppy, not unlike Lassie, was killed in the parking lot.
And now it's time for the comedy stylings of Homer Simpson.
Do you know that that's happened to me for real?
I believe it.
The host went up before the show.
First of all, shut off the game.
That's death right there.
Shut off sports.
And then
I'm sorry I'm late.
My dog killed my other dog by accident in the middle of the night with a leash.
Here's your host, Courtney Cronin.
Oh man, is that funny.
Oh my gosh.
That's gorgeous.
All right, Courtney Cronin.
Do you use Dolde?
I didn't know how to.
I got rid
of it.
Oh.
Because you know when I was sitting next to you in the office is when I met my husband and I'll
never
forget it.
You offered me a piece of chocolate.
You go, Courtney, do you want some chocolate?
And I remember I was like starving myself before I went to visit him in Germany.
I
was
eating a tomato
soup.
Let's pick up right there.
We're going to get caught up.
Let's pick up right there.
I forgot about that.
It's fishwap and nightlight coming right there.
I'm just going to assume that that is a kiss or a fraily song.
Who is it?
Both.
Oh, it's both.
OK.
That is the voice of Courtney Cronin, my guest here at Night Light Tonight.
Courtney and I go way back.
We met in the writer's room of Sports Soup.
And before the break, Courtney, I
Hated to cut you off, but we have really hard outs where the computer just takes over and I want you to get cut off So I would love it if you continued that story about the chocolate
Okay, so I remember you were like I had met my husband while working on the show like I'm at this guy and
I
kind of fell in love by the way, this was 17 years ago.
We're still together For
you nice
married 15 years two weeks ago
So yeah.
So I was going to meet him.
Um, I was going to Germany to visit him and just, you know, see what happens.
So I was like on this massive diet, like at work, I was eating like, like watery tomato soup, like nothing.
And, and you have these little chocolates and you go, Hey Courtney, do you want a chocolate?
And I went, no Pete, I can't eat chocolate.
And you said,
This is what you said, you go, Courtney, I'm pretty sure this little piece of chocolate is not going to determine how, whether or not you look better or worse than the negligee when you go to Germany.
I said something like that.
Like this chocolate is not going to affect how you look in your negligee in Germany.
And I was like, okay.
It was so funny and it was so true.
needed to calm down.
I was like starving myself.
Did you eat the chocolate?
Did you take it?
I don't remember.
I was so hungry, I probably passed out right after that happened.
Oh, that is so funny.
I have to tell you, that was my first, you know, writing job with a staff that I did like this other bad clip show that was on country music TV about
Smokies and bandits just awful, but that was a fun job because you were so awesome and Roger and Andrew Ganser and Trevor and
Roger
Yeah, I know and you guys I've had some of those guys on too, but the last time I was gonna reach out to you I thought I gotta get Courtney on the show, but Becky pedago had just passed away
And she was on the show, uh, probably a year ago and I knew you guys were good friends.
So I thought I'm going to sit this one out for a little bit, give you a chance.
Cause I know you guys were tight and I'm sorry to hear about her passing.
She was
great.
Yeah, that was tough.
You know, and Mike Segal are, you know, you guys are very close.
I know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Mike and Becky were real close and that was tough.
Becky was a fantastic comedian.
She was so funny.
She was so intelligent.
Um,
And I saw her all the time because she worked down the street for me.
So I walk my dog at night.
And if it was, uh, if she wasn't too busy, you know, she'd let us in and my dog thought it was the greatest thing ever that we could go inside the restaurant.
Becky wasn't really an animal person, but she liked my dog because he loved her so
much.
She'd be like, Hey, Rainey, hi.
How are you doing, Rainey?
And it was so funny.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was yucky.
No,
yeah, I really was but I'm glad you know you guys all seem like you're doing I didn't know her as well as Mike certainly I met her at a couple of Mike's parties and I just thought she's a very nice person and she was fun to have on the show and I know you guys were tight You you've had a lot of writing gigs.
I'm kind of amazed that people go from gig to gig and you do stand-up What do you prefer writing when it comes to comedy?
Do you like the stand-up world or writing on a show?
I would prefer to write on a show because it pays more.
But I always try to work with comedians because I always tell like producers or like when I go in on an interview or something like, I speak comedian, we really have our own language and understanding.
You
know, that people that don't like haven't been through what we've been through, we're, you know, done, you know, do what we do.
We just, there's like a certain.
Attachment we have for each other even if we're not friends with people you kind of still
have to
respect that person like you know what they're doing and how insane what we do is And
we
just kind of got each other, you know, and there's like a way to talk to each other that I think sometimes People don't understand, you know
It's so funny you say that you just made me remember something about the way I feel about comics I haven't done stand up as a job in years and years, but you always do have that bond
Yeah, that's not true.
But we do have that.
Like when you start out, everything is competitive.
Oh, I'm working that room.
He's working that room.
Oh my God.
And as you get older, it's just like, if I meet someone who I know is a comedian, I instantly just have affection for them now.
It's like, I don't know if that's maturity or what, but it's like, because you're right.
It's like such a unique thing that we have in common.
And it's kind of fun that we can all share that at this point in our lives.
I think so.
I think the longer we're around the more we understand like how petty some of the things that we were upset about 25
years
ago were.
And you know like what's really important now.
You know
like
I'll say like Becky's passing you know awful and then something wonderful that came out of it is brought like
you know, Gary and Kristen and Mike and Piper and stuff like that.
We hang out a lot now.
It's brought
us
closer and we, you know, we've kind of got like a nice, you know, nice little hang going.
We're having a good time.
We're low, you know, the local Redondo comics together and that's really nice, you know, and, you know, we're always like, Hey, have you heard about this thing?
Hey, oh, hey, have you heard about that?
You know, and just kind of like helping each other out like Gary and I did a pizza place.
couple weeks ago and it was on my wedding anniversary and oh wow but the guy said hey are you free next thursday i'm like yes because i'm 50 i don't know what next thursday is i don't know the date i have no idea so i come home my husband's like you know that's their anniversary i was like oh god well you know it pays and there's food
i'll take you out to dinner after
on the street and he goes all right
Let's go.
So they asked who I wanted to work with me.
I go, how about Gary?
Gary and Kristen came and the four of us, we had a blast.
Oh, that's so great.
That's so great.
What are you, what clubs do you go up at Courtney in LA and do you have clubs you still travel to?
It'd be so great if you came to Wisconsin.
You know, I was supposed to be there.
I was actually supposed to be in your neck of the woods and it kind of fell apart.
But we're working on it.
We're working on coming back.
I've
been
touring a lot with Don Jameson.
He lives in New Jersey and From that metal show and we do this like rock and roll show together on like on the monsters of rock crews and around music festivals and stuff called punchlines and backlines Excuse me, and I've been touring with red beach from winger and white snake We're doing like as many shows as we can that are like driving distance for him.
Yeah, you can't really pull him away too too much but
he's gonna he's about to get real busy again because both the bands he was in forever both retired
so
um he had a little free time so we kind of swooped in on him when he had a little free time and we're like come on do some more stand-up with this because he's so funny at it
really
funny oh my god he's so hilarious and you know he kind of tells stories but he's got jokes you know because i always tell them everyone who does our show it's rock stars doing comedy for the first time
Oh,
I love that.
We've been doing
it so long.
Yeah, that we had people, all stars, and we had people come back.
Todd Littori from Queens, right?
Britt Lightning from Vixen.
They've come back and done it twice.
Rebs done it like four times.
PJ Farley from Tricksters done it twice.
Chad Stewart from Faster Pussycat.
Patrick Kenneson who plays with Lita Ford and his band Heaven Below.
They've all done it a few times because they had so much fun.
They came back.
Wow.
Yeah, so we're like, well, let's keep...
Going going, you
know,
we talked to Reb and he's like sure so we've done like five road shows with Reb Beach And he's like you would never know he was not a comic if you didn't tell people that didn't know who he was Like coming up next Reb Beach.
I mean his act reveals who he is and you know
Yeah,
what he's done for work because that's most most of his act is stories from the road and all the things that have happened and Because you can't believe it the stuff that's happened to him
My guest is a comedian Courtney Cron and she is also a fabulous writer and we're talking about the show She does punch lines and back lines with Red Beach from White Snake and what was it winger?
Okay, you were a fan of all that music, right?
Like you like the the metal and stuff like that I kind of remember that about you and so I'm not surprised that you and Terry Connected at some point because she's a huge fan as well, but are you just like in heaven like LA has so many
uh people that live there that used to be big time rock stars and you meet them now and it's kind of fun like they're just like regular people again right?
Sort of that yeah sort of that'll never go away but the fact that i'm like i was such a hair metal fan and like i was called soft metal but like you know i'm like i'm not like into iron maiden you know but like i love poison and winger you know and like more more of like extreme like bands that like
you know we're a little more I don't want to say pop but like just you know little tamer not not so like right but like you know they write great songs they you know they're great performers they're great musicians they're fun to watch still you know like kicks they just retired and man I can't I mean up until the last seconds like one of the most fun bands to see ever and like I love all that stuff so to be around them and work with them such a big deal for me
It's like, it was like a dream.
It's, I can't believe I'm doing this.
Like it feels so neat.
Like it's still exciting.
Yeah.
Um, where did you start doing stand up and who are your influences, Courtney?
Like when you got into it at first, was there someone you tried to emulate or someone you thought, oh, I just want to be as funny as them?
Like, who are your influences?
Um, well, Cara Leifer was, has always been my favorite.
I remember seeing her the first time I saw her.
I'm like, God.
She's so smart and the jokes and I was
like, yeah,
I want to be like her.
I still want to be her
Yeah,
she's like got the most awesome career and I guess I saw her and that got me into like wanting to kind of be a stand-up But I started in Boston.
I started in college I was in theater school and I just didn't really fit in to kind of the theater school thing I never really found my place, you know with them until like me and
Mikaela Watkins, who's now doing extremely well.
She was on SNL and she's in a ton of movies.
She's a big actress and Mickey.
And she and I were always kind of goofy, funny.
Sorry.
And we put together this like weird sketch improv show called, Oh Boy, That's Good Cheese.
And Bob's Chicken House presents, Oh Boy, That's Good Cheese.
And we did this show and it was the most fun I had in school.
That's when she and I did
that show together.
Yeah, it was really fun.
And I'm like, I want to do comedy.
So like I started doing stand-up while I was still in theater school.
I love that.
Um, and you talk about Carol Liefer, obviously, who is the inspiration for Elaine and Seinfeld.
And it was a tremendous standup comedian.
Um, can, can people see your stuff anywhere?
Courtney, like, should I direct them online or to this, uh, the show you've been doing punchlines and backlines?
Will that be coming through Wisconsin at all?
Well,
we're trying.
Yeah.
Definitely.
We're starting to like move.
We're starting in the East and starting to move West.
We're doing the Monsters of Rock Cruise and the Mountain Music Festival both in Tennessee next year, but we'll be in Columbus, Ohio on February 15th, Don and I with Reb, and
February
12th in Pittsburgh, and then we've got some other stuff coming.
But pickpunchlinesandbacklines.com is the website, and there's
some
video up there of our most recent show.
And I have video scattered.
I'm finally putting...
Myself on screen.
That's the other thing.
I love about being a writer.
No camera.
I hate being on camera I've been hiding
from
the camera for 30 years as long as I've been doing stand-up I hate it and I'm finally starting to post my stuff online I have just been against it.
I don't know why it's dumb I just send private links to bookers and stuff.
I don't I Never
I think that's no I think
That's, that's not uncommon.
I think I had to get, I couldn't talk about myself, like, but you kind of have to sell yourself to some of these people.
Courtney Cronin is here.
Very funny stand-up comedian and writer.
We'll have a couple minutes with Courtney when we come back after this very short break.
Don't go anywhere, folks.
We're coming back to close things down.
And Courtney's here.
It's Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Oh, that's one of the biggies.
Don't tell me.
There's poison, right?
Yeah.
Nothing but a good time.
It's a dream guest for me, for my show, C.C.
DeVille.
Wait, who's that?
Courtney?
The guitar player for
poison.
Oh,
OK.
That's nothing but a good time, right?
OK, got it.
I hung in there long enough.
Hey folks, on Monday, we'll be off after tonight, taking a short break for Thanksgiving, but on Monday Betsy Gaspar from Old World Wisconsin, great museum will be here.
Jane Wells, the leader of the Marinette, Wisconsin West Shore Corral.
Dobie Maxwell, comedian Dobie Maxwell will be here and Milwaukee film critic Matt Miller.
Next week we've got great shows also.
Bill Leff, who is the host of the nationally syndicated show,
Tune in with me.
We'll be here.
He was our first guest, and it'll be our two-year anniversary.
So Bill comes back every year on our anniversary and sometimes in between.
And then Lauren Holly will be here on Wednesday night talking about the godfather of Green Bay Screening in Madison a week from Thursday.
So that'll be fun, another fun week of guests, and of course Terry Barr for Bar Band Friday night.
next week.
My guest is Courtney Cronin.
She and I go way back.
We've been a part of a writing staff together.
Courtney is a very funny stand-up comedian and writer.
Courtney, before I let you go, I have to ask you two things.
Who makes you laugh these days?
Who do you find truly hilarious?
Stand up?
Anything.
Stand up, sketch, actor, whatever.
Oh, God.
There's this girl, Steph, to love.
Have you ever seen her?
I
probably have, but probably don't know her name.
I'm sure she comes up on Reels.
She is so funny.
Every time she comes up, I start falling all her stuff.
She is like, every time she opens her mouth, I'm like laughing hard.
She's just killing me.
I've just kind of gotten into her.
And I don't know.
I don't know what makes me laugh.
Sometimes I need to laugh like so bad, you know?
And it's weird, like comedians, for us to take a break, we watch murder.
Like we watch-
You are so right.
It's true.
We need a break, we watch murder, you know, true crime,
drama,
horror.
We
don't exactly know I'm with you and I unless something's very like anti-comedy like the chair company or something like I just I can't get too into it unless it's like almost like Subversively comedic if that makes any sense at all, you know,
yeah
One more question for you and again, I can't it's so great to reconnect with you and I'm so glad you're on the show What are you watching on TV?
Anything you can binge watch speaking of murder and true crime and all that kind of stuff
Best show I think I've seen in like 20 years was Wednesday Because
I
love the Adams family and I love all of the stuff that goes with it and the way the story developed and the way it all came together I thought was so brilliant and So much fun to watch nice.
I loved it I was so bumped like when it was over like I was sad but but the ending I mean everything about it was so great and then my husband and I just finished the second or third is it
third season of Tulsa King.
I think it's third.
It was pretty good.
I watched the first season.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was pretty good.
I mean, I liked it.
Um, I mean, I, I'm not kidding.
I, when I want to unwind, I watch reruns of the love
boat.
Oh, that's so great.
And I'm actually building a TikTok channel where I announce the guest stars as they
do their hero shots and read them off by what they're known for.
Oh,
that is awesome.
Known for.
No one steal it.
I'll kill you.
I'm putting it out soon, but I watch it so much and I'm so into it.
It just it's the best way to just sort of just dumb your whole world down and just and some of it's so offensive.
It's like, oh, my God, you could never do that today.
Oh my god, but also some of it's so ahead of its time.
Yeah
And like man captain stewing.
He's just the greatest
and how is doc the ladies.
I mean like It was so weird like he's the ladies guy.
I don't know
Yeah, you know, he was like a vaudeville actor.
I think and he was
just funny
and charming.
Yeah.
Oh, wow
And that I think he just like nailed I think he just blew everybody else out of the auditions, you know He's cute with his hairpiece.
Sure.
I
mean, it's a doctor.
He's you know, he's an educated guy got the intellect he can Who is your favorite character on the loveboat?
Mine was probably gopher, but now I don't like him anymore
Isaac
Yeah,
Isaac
there you go
most likable headline on the show.
He always had the best storylines
and
And if you look at the actor, Ted Lange, he's the only one from the original cast that actually looks the same.
He looks
great.
Yes, he looks fantastic.
Is that how you say his name, Lange?
Lange.
Oh, I always called him Ted Lange.
Everyone did.
OK.
Hey, my friend, this was so much fun.
Thank you for being on the show tonight, Courtney.
And I'm so glad things are going well for you.
I'm glad you're so married.
Whether you took the chocolate or not, I don't care.
I'm glad you found love.
Keep bringing the funny.
Good luck with your show and please come back soon.
Thank you.
This was this show is great.
Thank you so much.
I had such a good time.
Thanks.
You're very welcome.
You could start the dryer now, by the way.
Oh,
Courtney Cronin.
Thank you so much.
Have a great night and happy Thanksgiving.
Happy Thanksgiving.
All right.
That's man.
That was fun.
Thank you to Courtney.
Thank you to Lance Barber and thank you to Stuart J. Waddles.
Thank you for all your texts and calls.
Did I get everything Xamers?
I think so.
At least last that I saw.
Yeah, and the 608, we got one more text here.
Steve, Steve Martin was hilarious in the space, ancient prisoner, which was a thriller.
That's very funny.
608, I love it.
Thank you for all your calls and texts.
Everybody have a great Thanksgiving.
We will be back Monday with another All-Star cast of guests and a fun question and hopefully great interaction from you guys.
Thank you to Aaron Zommers.
Much appreciated, my friend.
I will see you Monday.
We'll see you Monday.
Happy Thanksgiving, everybody.
Good night, Wisconsin.