From Folk Festivals to Foodie Feasts (Hour 2)

live statewide from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.

This is Night Light with Pete Schwabba, your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now a guy who washes his hands even after using a towel, Pete Schwabba.

Welcome to Night Light, ladies and gentlemen.

Happy Wednesday, everybody.

You are halfway there.

And we are going to take you through this night on the radio and deliver you into Thursday, which is a glorious day.

Every day is a glorious day.

Great to have you with me.

I am Pete Schwabba, and this is Night Light.

Conrad Krieger is here, working the board, producing the show, looking.

You know, I just realized you have not had a haircut in quite a while, buddy.

I got a haircut before I left for that wedding.

Did you really?

You just didn't notice.

No, you were in the awkward stages and then you just left town and it's grown back now.

Not really.

It's still pretty short for, you know, I'll probably get a haircut in like two weeks.

Okay.

You gotta keep it posted.

Your haircuts are fun to talk about.

I like to, uh, do you have awkward banter with the people that cut your hair?

It's getting better, you know?

Okay.

It's the same, the same girl that cuts my hair every time.

That makes it a little easier.

Yes.

beauticians or salonists or barbers, whatever you want to call them, they're sort of like bartenders.

You can kind of tell them stuff, you get a sense of, like they're sort of in control of you while they're working on your dome, you know?

It's easier, you know, when you first start out with one, not a bartender, a salonist.

How many bartenders do you

have?

You know, the first time they cut your hair is a little awkward, like you don't really know

each other, it's kind of, what do

you want?

Right.

I want this.

I

want my hair to be

shorter.

See, for me, it's like, if I'm not talking, it's weird for me, too, because I take my glasses off.

Plus, I'm not talking, or I can't see.

So you really can't see when you take your glasses

off?

Oh, no.

I have to put on my glasses to see how my hair looks after.

So when she says, how does this look, you put the glasses back on first.

OK, gotcha.

And most of them are like, how's it look?

And I'm like,

where you keep further?

Oh, you're really that blind?

Yes.

Yes, I am.

A haircut would have to be pretty bad for me to notice that without my glasses.

Yeah, I've got a couple of different girls.

I have someone I used for my hair that is really good, but I'm kind of a last minute guy.

She's so booked up I can never get in.

And then I have this other girl who I've been going to.

She's just starting out, so she's got more openings.

So I'm trying to get like a balance going there.

I went to the salon in Hartford when I lived.

in Kiyoskem, which is like a 30 minute drive.

And that's where I'd go get my haircut.

And since I moved to Green Bay, obviously, it was a little difficult to get to Hartford.

Yeah.

Missed that place though.

Best haircuts I've ever had.

Well, I gotta be better than what you're rocking

now.

Kidding Conrad, you got a great job.

Wow.

You got a great do there.

I had someone at one of those chain haircutting places.

Don't even.

She would tell me about the fights she got into.

Physical fights at bars in local Marinette.

And I was like, hmm, okay.

I don't wanna make her mad.

I did stop going to her though.

I'm like, I'm uncomfortable hearing all this.

Yeah, you don't wanna

get in a fight with her, huh?

I don't wanna get in a fight with her.

I don't wanna be called as a witness.

Yeah, it was just a strange dynamic.

And I had a friend once who, the girl finished cutting his hair and she looked at him and she's like pushing it out of the way and she's like inches from his face and she goes,

and blows on his face to get the hair off of him.

No,

yes.

That's, that's, no.

God, I love a good

haircut.

Did I ever tell you the time I, the last time I went to a chain, you know, I think it was the barber shop.

That's what it's

called?

I got the worst haircut of my life.

And it was so bad that I actually left a Yelp review.

I said,

It was summer, and I said, this haircut is so bad it makes you want to wear a winter hat in summer.

Did you put a picture?

Let's just say the lineup was not even on the sideburns.

That's awful.

The back of my hair and around the ears.

It was so noticeable that my brother's like, dude, what's?

I always thought this would catch on, and it never did.

One sideburn.

Just one just a different kind of like yeah a guy kind of I always wanted to try to do that like I wonder what people would say you'd look like a mental patient, but And then you'd have to explain to people no no no this is what I'm going for it's a one-sided But you have to be famous to do stuff like that if you want to set a trend You kind of have to be a big shot.

So like the left side is like up to your

well, I'm right-handed I'm right-handed so I would do one side burn on that side and nothing on this side and that's how I would roll

I think you should do this.

I've tempted.

And you could do that in radio, except now we're like on TV too.

So people can see it and go, what's this guy's deal?

Maybe we'll

take a window picture of your sideburns.

One sideburn, yeah.

I'm going to noodle that.

Look at this.

See this, folks?

This is not even written in my notes.

This is spontaneous haircut discussion on nightlight.

It's like an improv class.

This is all you get.

I don't even know what made me think of your hair.

It must

be looking good for you to talk about

it.

Looks pretty good, yeah.

It's a good looking haircut, even though it's a bit old.

Hey, we have a fun show tonight, folks.

We're gonna have, man, this is exciting too.

We're gonna talk about a folk festival at 530.

In hour number one, we are bringing out the big guns.

It's the 2025 Holiday Folk Fair International.

Paul Trebian will be here to discuss this.

Paul is the CEO of the International Institute of Wisconsin.

We're gonna tell you what that operation does too, because that's pretty.

Pretty cool stuff what they do and this folk fair sounds amazing.

It's down in West Alice and it takes place this This weekend so we'll do that and then we've got my pal Shali Pittman who is the civic media news director This is gonna be fun because Shali and I have this thing where I met her when I did my show in Madison a few weeks ago And I said man your your first name would sound great with my last name

I go, you should go with Schwabba, shawly Schwabba.

That's a great, the alliteration, it crushes.

And I would actually sound better as Pete Pittman.

Cause that's easier to say.

Pete Schwabba, we've all had fun with my name, sounds like a dessert.

Oh, I see you have fresh Schwabba tonight.

What flavor is it?

Peach.

So, Shelly Pittman will be here at 6.10.

I'm excited to talk to Shelly.

She's going to talk to us about a law that's going to benefit community theaters, which I think will be fun.

She'll join us for about 10 minutes in the six o'clock hour.

It'll be good to get to know Shelly on the air.

She does a great job here at Civic Media.

And then Wisconsin Foodie creator Arthur Ersink will be here at 6.35.

Pardon me.

They have a new season coming out.

This show is

a juggernaut.

It has been on since 2010 and I can't believe there's so much good food in Wisconsin and restaurants and Arthur finds these places and he does such a great job.

I don't want to say he's a one-man operation because everything is collaborative but he works his butt off and Arthur, pardon me, Arthur will be here to discuss some fun Thanksgiving ideas, talk about the new season, maybe we'll get some healthier eating tips from Arthur.

for Thanksgiving.

And then this is fun.

At 7.20 tonight, I've been watching this reporter's work here in Green Bay.

She works at NBC26, and she covers Door County.

Top to bottom, baby.

And she's awesome.

Her name is Hannah Lopez, and we both went to DePaul University.

You know, she's, she liked a couple of window picks.

I said, Hey, let's have you on.

We have reporters on.

Emerson Layman comes on.

Rachel Mannix been on.

And she said, I'd love to.

So we'll talk a little bit about our Alma Mater and how she landed in Green Bay.

And then I am excited to get into some Door County talk.

You probably have noticed this about me.

I love talking about Door County.

I mean, what's there not to like about it?

I love it.

And it's different.

Like I like to talk about drinking too, because I don't really drink anymore, but it's different because when I talk about Door County.

I've actually gone there quite a bit.

So I know, I'm not full of it.

So there you go.

Four outstanding guests tonight.

It's all happening here at Night Light.

It is great to have you here.

We have an outstanding question of the night that's coming up in just a moment.

Did you see that?

I have to tell you, this is, I'm not like one of those fabric people like where, you know, they say sometimes certain fabrics really bother people, but we have these t-shirts that said WGBW.

There was Army Green and Black.

They were really slick looking t-shirts.

I'm actually wearing one right now.

Of course you are.

I had like 12 of them at home.

But they were my Christmas gifts, you know.

I took a whole bunch of them.

But no, I just went through puberty there in the years.

I heard that, yeah.

So I put one of these shirts on today, but it was backwards.

And man, was that a weird feeling.

Like all that, what do you call that?

The emblem or whatever is on?

It was all touching my chest.

And it was cold and weird.

And I completely spazzed out and pulled the shirt off and turned it in the other way around and put it on.

But that was a terrible feeling.

See, I had a different one because I pulled this shirt out of the dryer before I left this morning.

So it was nice and toasty.

Yeah, that's always fun too.

That was nice because I had to go outside in the cold.

So I had the nice warm t-shirt.

Did you ever?

Did you ever put clothes on and think, oh man, I think I'm losing weight.

And then you realize, oh no, I just haven't washed these in a while.

That's my buddy Boris Hamilton's joke.

I always love that joke.

I lost weight.

Oh no, it's wash day.

Hey, I think it's time Conrad, we get to our nightlight question of the night.

Let's talk about the question.

Okay, question.

Question.

Question.

Pregunta.

Question.

Question.

Okay, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Domanda.

Question.

Question.

Questions.

Oh, here we go.

It is... Oh, my God, I have last night's question written down.

That's hilarious.

What is your favorite board game?

That's tonight's question.

And you know why I picked that, Conrad?

Well, it's an honor of national

go... Well, play Monopoly.

Play Monopoly.

Probably maybe the most famous board game, right?

Yeah,

yeah around forever.

It's been around forever.

It takes it takes forever

Well, you can mix it up.

You could do the thing where you pass out the properties at the beginning Yeah, my son is like a purist.

He's like, no You don't know how people came into that property.

I'm like, whoa, okay

Yeah,

he takes it very seriously.

So that's our question of the day.

It's national play monopoly day.

What is your favorite board game?

Please be part of the show.

Let me know folks eight five five seven five two four eight four two eight five five seven five civic Let us know you can drop us a text on that line or on the app if you have the civic media app We have a lot of people listening on the app and I love that so drop us a comment over the app or if you're watching the radio on Facebook YouTube or X X Twitter drop us a stream comment and we will read it on the radio always more fun when you guys participate

I don't know, I kind of gave this some thought.

I love, what's the game, Balderdash.

I love Balderdash.

You make up WordDiffin?

It's like, to me, there's nothing better than tricking someone into guessing your word and then like totally owning them.

But I didn't put that as my favorite, because I think categories, if you just like to argue with family, categories is outstanding.

You know what's category is this?

It's to get, you get a letter and then you have to come up with something that starts with that letter.

So for example.

Yeah.

It's kind

of like a little bit.

Well, with words, you don't really draw anything, but you can say like something you'd put on a cupcake and the letter is T. So you'd say, you know, whatever.

If it was S, you'd say sprinkles or F was frosting, whatever.

My brother, to put on a cupcake, put tart toppings.

No way.

Are you ever accepting that answer?

So it starts like these great arguments.

So I like scatterbories.

Tart toppings.

Tart toppings.

Come on.

And then I also like catchphrase.

You ever play catchphrase?

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's a great one.

You whip the thing because the buzzer's about to go off.

You hit mom in the forehead with it and people get really, really crazy about it.

You got a favorite board game?

Sorry.

I said, do you have a favorite board

game?

Sorry.

I

love Sorry too.

That's a great game.

I play it.

Sorry is one of

my old times faves.

We'd play it on Family Game Night, you know, I was younger.

Yeah, and it would always get a little hectic, you know, between my brother and I, but there was kind of a strategy.

I always had to be always had to be blue.

All right, we're gonna discuss all of this and I'm gonna tell you about what to do with leftover gravy folks that's coming up next on Nightlight with Peach Wabba.

So great to have you with me on this Wednesday on the Civic Media Radio

Network.

Can't take my eyes off you You'd be like heaven to touch I wanna hold you

Welcome back Well if you're looking for fun things to do leading up to Christmas and other holidays Check out if you're in the Madison area December 4th a screening of a film I made called the Godfather of Green Bay It stars Lauren Holly Tony Goldwyn Thomas Lennon Lance Barber and me and well as well as a host of other

Great Wisconsin actors and some Chicago actors Midwest actors.

It's a really fun film.

It's a comedy sort of a feel-good story And it's playing we're screening it December 4th.

Thanks to our pals John and Gordy in the morning show in WMDX in Madison here on civic media They will be the hosts.

What's going on with my voice today?

I don't know you might miss you might need to take a chill

quick

a couple gravel or something.

December 4th, John and Gordy will be hosting the event and they're gonna host a Q&A with me after the film at the Atwood Music Hall on December 4th.

It's sponsored by Downdreens Distilling and it's gonna be a lot of fun.

It's a fun movie to watch.

It's some big laughs in the film if I do say so myself and a great movie to see with a crowd.

And the plot of the film is I play a comedian named Joe Keegan who gets a shot

at being on The Tonight Show, but the audition is in Wisconsin.

He and his friend Kenny Caruso played by Lance Barber, who of young Sheldon fame.

Lance gets my character to go to this audition because he knows every year the talent booker of The Tonight Show goes back to this little roadside bar for deer hunting season.

And they do a comedy night there, so our goal is to get on stage there.

And we meet Thomas Lennon's character, a local emcee who tries to bury me and calls me a bear fan and all that kind of fun stuff and makes me dig out of a hole during my act.

at the biggest edition of my life.

So anyway, the tickets are 10 bucks.

A dollar of each ticket goes to the Dane County Humane Society.

It's for a great cause.

There'll be a Q&A afterwards.

We can have some cocktails and some conversation at the beautiful Atwood Music Hall.

I hope you can make it.

Tell your friends and hopefully we'll see you out there on December 5th.

So I saw this.

This is so weird.

Heinz has launched its first ever squeezable gravy bottle featuring its home style turkey gravy.

It's called leftover gravy.

They are selling a new product called leftover gravy.

It's specifically for sandwiches and available only at Walmart.

They somehow got a sweetheart deal with Walmart that sells everything.

It's store-bought gravy and

It can't compare to the, supposedly they're saying this as like a preemptive mea culpa.

It won't compare to your homemade gravy, but it's good for sandwiches and stuff like that.

You can squeeze it out of a box.

That sounds really gross to me.

I'm not a gravy guy to begin with, but this sounds really gross.

I don't think I knew that about you, that you're not really a gravy guy.

Can't do it.

I'm not either.

Like, I think it's disgusting, but.

It's how they make it.

It's what's

in it.

Isn't it like lard and butter and like, I like the taste of potatoes.

Why would I want to compromise

it with

this gross?

This looks disgusting to me too.

I agree.

It's like tan and like dark.

Yeah.

It's featuring home style turkey gravy.

It's called leftover gravy and it looks like a bottle of stadium mustard they're saying.

It's specifically for sandwiches and it was inspired.

You'll appreciate this Conrad.

by the Friends episode where someone steals Ross's moist maker sandwich.

Oh, that's a great episode.

My sandwich.

My sandwich!

So it only took them 25 years to get that one.

He had to go on leave after that.

Oh, that's right, because they thought he was crazy.

He was a little crazy.

I saw a Reddit post once where some guy said, what is the point of Ross?

Just in general.

Just in general, his character.

And I think David Schwimmer's really funny.

He's

hilarious.

He finds out Joey and Rachel start dating and he gets super drunk with Margaritas.

Oh, I don't remember.

See, that's

another show I kind of stopped watching after.

Oh, you got it.

You just got to stick through.

I know.

After five, basically five seasons on any show I'm out.

Cheers.

Even Seinfeld, like I stuck with Seinfeld because it's Seinfeld, but I just, I don't know.

It just sort of loses its luster for me after.

after those years.

All right, so you can pick up some leftover gravy.

It would be great if there was actual, if it was from someone's house.

And Walmart was selling it.

Super on the stream says gravy is gross.

That's Terry Barr.

That is not Terry Barr.

Yeah, I see the profile picture.

Oh my God, that is Terry Barr.

Hi, Terry Barr.

She says gravy is gross, gobs of butter on those potatoes.

Yeah, that's why I put butter and salt and pepper.

That's how I love my potato.

The gravy compromises the deliciousness of the potatoes, in my opinion, or even stuffing.

I like sodium and bread form.

I just like eat it straight.

I love the terry.

That's her.

That sounds like a super one, two, three, four star.

That's Terry's YouTube handle.

I think so.

I'm not supposed to give that out.

She wants followers, right?

Follow Terry

Barton.

Yeah, follow

Terry.

Dave on this dream says Balderdash wits and wagers.

I never played Whits and Wagers.

And I think we

have that game, but I've never played it.

Keep those thoughts coming, folks.

We'll get to some of your texts a little later.

As I mentioned, lots of fun happening tonight.

We're going to talk about a really cool folk festival taking place in West Alice at 535 with Paul Trebbian.

He'll be here.

Sounds like a lot of fun.

We've got Hannah Lopez from NBC26 tonight.

Arthur Ursank from Wisconsin Foodie.

We'll talk a little bit of Thanksgiving food.

Our pal, Shaly Shwaba.

Oops, I mean, Shaly Pittman will be here.

She does outstanding work here at Civic Media.

And what is, is there Packers News?

More Packers News?

You wanna,

we need an update from you, Con?

I mean, we're facing the Vikings this week.

Yeah.

And we, but you know what I mean?

I'm part of the team, right?

Yeah, you can

say

we.

I, I'm facing the Vikings this week.

Now it's all about you.

I was willing to give you a roster spot for conversation purposes.

I didn't think you were gonna take over.

You know, I think our defense can stop JJ McCarthy because he doesn't look all that well.

He put a couple good drives together, but I mean, just like, I don't know, I think our defense can stop him.

He is capable.

I do think he's gonna be a great decent

quarterback.

He is capable, but so far, I don't know.

Aaron Jones is probably gonna have a game just because it's his revenge game again.

Absolutely.

Did we talk about Alice Glick passing away?

No.

All right, we'll do that after the news.

Very, very wonderful Simpsons characters.

Peach Wabba Nightlight.

We're coming right back on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Welcome back Oh, it is a Wednesday night.

I am Pete Schwab a Conrad Krieger is working the board and we are having some fun already It's only hour one Conrad.

Have you adjusted completely to the extra hour the early hour?

I got some jet lag.

Do you yeah?

Yeah, there are people in their cars right now listening to us You didn't think there was before no I did and I thought that's why we talked about that move over to law last night If they are in their cars be careful, we got to bring it though

And I think the way we do that is to talk about, well, at least to me, we talk about a really cool, Holiday Folk Fair International.

It's a 2025 version of the Holiday Folk Fair International.

It's a really cool event happening this weekend in West Alice.

And it is my pleasure to welcome to nightlight the CEO of the International Institute of Wisconsin, Mr. Paul Trevion.

Hi, Paul.

Hey, great to be here.

Am I saying your last name correctly, sir?

Yeah, Paul Travian.

Travian, okay.

This is really, yeah.

Well, it's good to have you.

How are you doing tonight?

Oh, really good.

The days leading up to Holiday Folk are real exciting to see the space come to life again, and it's a really neat place at State Fair Park at the Expo Center.

You know, all right, I want to just, we're going to get into all that.

First, I have to ask you a really important question.

Do you have a favorite board game?

who have a favorite board game.

The one that comes to mind is when I was young, I haven't played it since I've been young as a monopoly.

Oh, nice.

It is actually the reason our question tonight is inspired by the fact that it is National Monopoly Day.

So that's a great answer.

Didn't even know that.

Paul, it's great to have you.

I want to tell you that this festival sounds really cool, but I was reading up on you today and I'm not surprised that you're like this really upbeat guy because you've had a really fascinating background.

I was reading about you.

You've had a very interesting childhood.

You know, tell us a little bit about yourself and how you got to this point in your life and then we'll jump into the festival.

Well, I'm I'm really appreciate that question I grew up in Wisconsin half of the time the other half I was in Alaska my father passed away when I was young so my uncles helped raise me in Alaska and I have heritage up there native Alaskan clink at nation and That those values in my grandmother really shaped What I would do even as a young person I did a lot of

service things because of my grandmother and It's always been that way through college getting my first jobs and and then leaving all the way up to Being on the board for International Institute of Wisconsin for like 12 years, you know 14 years ago I was on the start on the board and in two years ago I I took over the helm at International Institute of Wisconsin, but Everything that we do

It's all about people, no matter what job we have, and everybody's so important.

And all of our similarities and all of our differences, we strengthen each other based on our backgrounds.

And for me, having a real strong upbringing and heritage and culture has allowed me to do quite a few things.

And then of course, I married my old blue wife, Kathy, who is in the Air Force tonight.

I was a military spouse and got to see quite a few things and do

a lot of different jobs.

So it's been a really fulfilling career so far.

And Holiday Folk Fair is just a gem every year for me.

It allows me to fulfill one of the biggest things my mother always said to my grandmother.

We need to tell everybody that we're still here, that the tribe is still here.

And what better way to do that at Holiday Folk Fair to say, here's our culture, here's our

art, here's our who and everybody else gets to do the same thing.

It's just a wonderful, wonderful event that fits right into what I do for my life.

Yeah, it's outstanding.

It just sounds like, it sounds like just a huge bash.

It's November 21st through the 23rd at the State Fair Park Exposition Center.

And it's this weekend from November 21st through the 23rd.

Tell us a little bit, Paul, if people go, what can they expect?

Well, when you walk through the door, you'll see right away what we call Heritage Lane, which is a lot of the culture was from all the different participants.

All different cultures in Europe and Asia.

My daughter is going to be there representing our family, the clinkets.

And when you go through, you'll see the big American flag and then right beyond that is the food.

Oh, it's wonderful.

And then the big world stage.

where all the dance groups will perform.

And then there's some other stages as well.

So there's a lot of food, dance, music, a lot of art.

There's also merchandise you can also purchase from some of the cultural groups.

And I think the biggest part of the whole aspect of it is it's a collection of all the different cultures that we have here.

And they show off their traditional dress.

They show off their food.

They show off the arts, and it's a great place to make memories.

Competition for the kids with the chest.

Education day on Friday at 9 to 2.

There's going to be close to 5,000 students coming through the door.

It's just a wonderful, great weekend.

A time to celebrate just before the holidays start

up.

Wow, that's a lot.

I mean, I was looking at your website earlier and it just seems like so much work.

And you know what?

I thought also, Paul, I think you could probably make a really cool board game out of this event.

Think about it.

That's all I'm saying.

The kids actually had little passports that they get stamped when they go to each culture.

Oh,

that's

great.

And speaking of you, you did all kinds.

I was half kidding about the board game because I was looking at your jobs and you mentioned them earlier.

You've done architecture, aerospace, family services, computer programming, information services, social services.

Are you that guy that like everybody who works for you, they can't get away with anything because you already know everything?

I know a lot about a lot of things.

And I have wonderful teams that are experts that work with me.

So that's how that works.

But I think a lot of it has to do with

Um, traveling a lot, um, uh, you know, being a military, uh, family, you get to see a lot of different things and, uh, you make the most of it.

And the best way to do that is to discover who they are and, uh, discover who you are.

And, uh, once that I come, once again, I come back to Hollywood, it's a great place for us to discover ourselves, discover others, look at the similarities, look at the differences.

And then it celebrated everything because we're stronger together.

Absolutely.

My guest is Paul Trabian.

He is the CEO of the International Institute of Wisconsin.

We're talking about the 2025 Holiday Folk Fair International in West Alice this weekend.

I was just looking at some of the stuff you guys offer.

You have theater, stuff for kids.

And this jumped out at me.

People dance and sing together.

That doesn't happen much anymore.

When I was a kid, I remember my grandma playing the piano, and we would stand around and sing.

My own family, very musical, we haven't done that in years.

This sounds like a really fun opportunity, as you said, just to bring people together.

And do people actually do that?

They stand around and sing?

They do.

The cultural groups that come, many of the folks that come to see

their culture and they'll strike a song that they remember and they'll sing along.

I see that, but the dance groups, they perform those traditional songs and dances and the ethnic groups and the ethnic foods and all of that is brought to life.

It's a way to discover more about yourself.

In

fact, I think people

come there and they start reconnecting to their past.

And what I think is real important is that when you understand your past, your heritage, your culture, it helps you figure out where you're going.

It helps you figure out the future.

And essentially, we have to work with each other.

So understanding each other, that's one of the big missions of International City of Wisconsin is that we're here to educate people on culture and heritage and

the mutual working together and the shared values.

And we all have the grandma who made those special cookies or made that special bread.

And we all have, like you said, we have memories that we did have some song and dance in the past.

And I love these culture groups.

They keep it alive.

And I think it's one of the things that this

festival does it allows them to reach out and touch people to get involved.

And so I would encourage everybody to find out who they're part of and then try to connect again and make new memories.

That's great.

That's so true.

Yeah, we all did have the grandma.

Grandma made the special cookies.

I had an uncle who made special brownies.

You just had to make sure he didn't drive after you ate one of them.

But I hear what he was saying.

So how can people get tickets, Paul?

Or where should they go for more information?

Well, I would go to folkfair.org.

And on that website, you'll see information, the address.

There'll be a link for you to

get advanced tickets, the prices will be explained there as well for all the different groups there.

And I think that it's a great preview of what you might see there and it will help you to organize your mind as you go there.

And of course, if you go each day, you're not going to miss anything for sure.

There's so much to see.

So it's well worth dedicating a weekend towards.

Yeah, I saw this it's your 82nd year has it just grown like gangbusters every year and how long have you been a part of that?

Well, I've been a part of it in the background for at least 14 years 12 years I was in the back in the background behind the scenes with the previous CEO In the last couple of years I've been leading the charge but

The International Institute of Wisconsin has been around for 100 years and our roots are immigration and naturalization and translation and interpretation.

And also the Holiday Folk Fair has been a big part of it, that's 100 years for 82 of them.

And it's backed by the community and there's a huge commitment to make sure this happens every year.

And I don't see it ending because it's so valuable to the community because you get to see all the ethnic groups.

You get to see the dance.

You get to see all of the traditional dress.

And then, of course, there's the food, the chef's corner, and the merchandise.

And then, of course, the wall of honor where we have people have been serving for 50-plus years.

They get on the wall of honor, and so you get to see who's on there this year, the new members, so.

That's great.

You kind of just answered my next question.

I was going to ask you to elaborate on what the International Institute of Wisconsin does, but you just sort of answered the question.

It's great stuff, great work.

I wish you luck with the festival this weekend.

I do have to ask you before you leave, Paul.

What are you watching on TV?

Anything you recommend?

A binge watch after a full day of putting together a folk fair?

Well, I actually like watching science shows.

You know, we're either looking at the earth or looking at what we see.

Our big telescopes that we pay tax dollars for, that relaxes me because it's all natural.

The first time I saw the pictures of the Eagle Nebula.

I was blown away.

And you're just looking at a picture.

Like I couldn't even imagine what it was like to see it through a telescope.

But that's great.

And I'm sure you'll add that to many of your other jobs, Paul.

You're kind of a Renaissance man.

And I appreciate your time tonight.

Best of luck with the festival this weekend.

And don't be a stranger.

Thank you so much.

You're

very welcome.

Thanks

for having me on.

Anytime.

All right.

That's Paul Trevi and check out the 2025 Holiday Folk Fair International in West Alice this weekend.

It sounds like an absolute blast.

So, all right, we're coming right back and I'm gonna, I have a really funny clip.

You get that comedian clip thing?

Oh yeah.

Great, one-liners.

It's coming up next.

This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media, Radio Network.

Welcome

back.

This is Night Light with Pete Schwab.

It is great to have you with me.

It is a Wednesday night in the state of Wisconsin.

A glorious night as we creep ever closer to one of my favorite holidays.

It's in my top 10.

Thanksgiving.

You guys want a big Arbor Day fan after that.

It's Thanksgiving.

Well, I know why it's Arbor Day now.

Why

I didn't realize before last night

Did you cut that?

It's Rob Thomas didn't remind me never to I said Arbor Day really gets my motor running

There's

something

to that effect.

That's

a sexy holiday.

It's a sexy.

I mean never to hang out with you on Arbor Day

That's our, that's our Rob.

All right, so our question of the night, folks, is what is your favorite board game?

It is National Monopoly Day.

Let us know.

And for those of you in the car right now, if you're driving somewhere, what better way to help you arrive home safely than with a little comedy?

Put a little smile on your face.

I found this great clip.

I don't know this comedian, but one of my favorite comics from like the 80s was Stephen Wright, who just would rattle off one liners.

And this guy, what is his name?

Stuart Francis?

Yeah, you got it.

All right, Conrad was using the intercom that we just had installed and it sounded like Charlie Brown's teacher was telling me the comedian name because I couldn't remember his name.

But I found this clip earlier today.

It's about a minute long.

Let's play this con.

I quit my job in the helium gas factory.

I refuse to be spoken to in that tone.

My therapist says I have a preoccupation with vengeance.

We'll see about that.

Is my wife dissatisfied with my body?

A tiny part of me says yes.

Just because I have arthritis doesn't mean I can't live a normal home.

I'm trying to become at least the most famous person in my neighborhood.

There's a guy in my neighborhood.

He's in the Guinness Book of Records.

He's had 43 concussions.

He lives very close.

In fact, just the stones throw away, but the point.

In university, I was going to join the debating team, but someone talked me out of it.

I was horrible in school.

I failed math so many times, I can't even count.

I was good at history.

No.

No, I

wasn't.

It's a long ago.

I like what mechanics wear.

Overall.

When I was a kid, my fairy godmother asked me if I wanted a long p******ry, long memory.

I forget my response.

I'm surprised you can't say that word on it.

That's a clinical word.

If I were a doctor, if I had, I bet Kristen Lyrely has said that word before.

Oh, but she's a doctor.

I mean, you're a doctor.

I'm a doctor of love.

All right, so.

That guy's funny.

I'd never seen him before, but he has some great jokes there.

Conrad, you also have this clip.

This has been burning a hole in your pocket.

Your big Kevin James fan.

Well, I recently have been rewatching King and Queens.

Sure.

Just a background show, because it's just so easy to, you can go on any episode.

It's just funny.

Yeah.

But this clip I have is just of the classic comedy duo that Kevin James and Jerry Stiller

would have.

Jerry Stiller's so great.

So, yeah, it's so

good.

Let's hear it.

Listen, Carrie's not gonna make it home for dinner, so I'm gonna order us some pizza.

From where?

From Sal's.

Sal's?

Have you lost your mind?

Okay, not Sal's.

And from where?

A little neighborhood joint called Domino's.

Domino's?

Yeah, that's

it.

Alright, what's the number?

It's one, seven, one, eight, one, one, sixty, eight, oh, eleven.

Look, I have way too many numbers, okay?

I gave you the area code.

We're in the area code.

I don't need to dial it.

Okay, ready?

I'm ready.

One, one, sixty, eight.

Okay, you know what?

I've got a little phone number rhythm, huh?

You know, a little bum, bum, pa, bum, pa, bum, pa.

Got it?

I got it.

Okay.

One.

Yeah, six.

Yep, teen.

I already died out of six.

I can't go back in time and slip a one in.

Well, whose fault

is

that?

I'll make it a sandwich.

Why don't you order from McDonald's?

Very funny.

Jerry Stiller is a treasure.

He's so good in that show.

He's great.

Well, they...

He's so funny on Seinfeld, they just said, we want him too.

And he's kind of the same guy, isn't he?

Yeah, just kind of like that.

But he plays that character so well.

He always, I love when he walks by George on Seinfeld and just slaps him in the forehead, like he's just deals him a right cross right to the... Did you hear this?

This is upsetting news from the world of showbiz, the business we call show.

Alice Click passed away.

And she was of course most of you know her as the Springfield first Christian church organist on the Simpsons and She died like playing the organ.

It's very very animated death

Okay, there's a one-liner for Stuart Francis over there.

Why do they have to kill all these like they killed Mo the bartender off?

He's

like

one of my favorite characters.

I think you know there

Getting ready to maybe Cancel the show

after 37 seasons.

I mean the guys made it this long Del the guy bars it not Barty del rumble.

They killed off him They killed off mod Flanders an audience favorite.

Mod was a sweetheart.

They're not afraid to it's like the walking dead They're not afraid to whack people the writers.

They take great power.

Well, all they have to do is to stop

drawing

And the character's dead correct.

I don't have a pencil.

Well, sorry best of luck RIP

I had all this stuff too I wanted to talk about with Thanksgiving stuff.

You shouldn't talk about me.

We'll say that for tomorrow.

But yeah, we've got the news coming up folks.

And then when we come back, Shali Pittman will be here.

Very excited to talk to Shali.

She's the Civic Media News Director.

She can tell us about some really cool new legislation that will help theater, theater companies all around the state.

That's coming up.

Arthur Irsink from Wisconsin Foodie will be on the show at 635.

And then, uh, Hannah Lopez from right here in Green Bay, NBC 26.

A Dora County reporter will be in studio and we will talk to her about Dora County and all kinds of fun stuff.

It's a great night to be here and it's great to have you.

It's Pete Schwabba in Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio

Network.

Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.

This is Night Light with Pete Chwaba.

Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now, a guy who travels so he can pretend he's on the lam, Pete Chwaba.

Welcome

back.

Oh, it is time for act two, folks.

It is so on.

Great show so far tonight.

It is so great to have you with me.

We talked to Paul Travian.

Sometimes you're reading about a guy like that, and you can just tell he's a sharp guy.

He's had all these great experiences in his life, and we talked to Paul a little bit about this really cool folk festival he has going on in West Alice.

2025 Folk Festival, brought to you by the Wisconsin, the, I don't know, I gotta find out what that was.

Conrad, what was Paul's organization called again?

The Wisconsin Institute.

Here's the problem.

I make these, I ball up the paper and I try to make basketball shots into the waste paper basket and I threw my information on Paul away.

even though he was just here.

He was just here and he was great.

So check out this really cool folk festival in West Alice this weekend.

Headed up by Paul Trabian and the Wisconsin Institute.

There we go.

All right.

In just a few minutes, folks, Civic Media News Director Shaly Pittman will be here.

I'm very excited to have Shaly on the show.

We've been talking about having Shaly on the show.

Not only does she have a cool name, she knows

everything that's going on.

We're going to talk to her about some really cool legislation coming up that is going to really benefit community theaters.

And then at 635, Wisconsin Foodies, Arthur Ersink will be here.

He is the creator of this Emmy-winning long-running show that is on in many other markets too, not just Wisconsin.

And Arthur has just created this wonderful show about food in Wisconsin.

And it's going to be great to have him here.

I'm going to ask Arthur for some

healthier alternatives to Thanksgiving because we were just talking about gravy.

And we discovered that Conrad and I are both not fans of gravy.

Yeah, you know.

Terry Barr isn't either.

I actually like to mix my potatoes with the Thanksgiving corn, you know?

Oh dear.

What

do you mean, oh dude?

You had

me, then

you lost me.

Really?

I know people that do that in my family with peas.

I'm like, can't you just eat?

Okay, I can't do peas.

Do we

have to willy-nilly put all the food together?

It's not a casserole.

You know, that's another thing actually I don't like.

Casserole?

Green bean casserole.

Oh, and Thanksgiving with the

French

onions and the creamy mushroom grossness?

Well, I guess I'm just, I'm a green bean hater.

of all the hills to die on.

Conrad's not going down without a fight.

I can't stand green beans.

That is crazy.

That's so funny.

It is funny, the things you glom onto that you don't like.

And then at 720 folks, Hannah Lopez from NBC26 here in Green Bay will be here in the studio.

Very excited to meet Hannah.

We've been swapping messages back and forth.

We are both former DePaul University students and she covers Dork County here in Northeast Wisconsin.

for NBC 26, so we'll have a nice conversation with Hannah.

And our question of the night in honor of National Monopoly Day is what is your favorite board game?

I said, I had a few.

I said catchphrase, because that can get very animated when you play catchphrase.

You're passing that thing around waiting for the buzzer to go off and somebody always whips it at somebody else or you know, you're in this heated battle and it's like, oh, we already did that word and you got to stop in the middle of the round and change the card.

I love catchphrase.

I also like Balderdash as categories just because of the arguments it creates.

Is there a game you don't like?

You know what?

If you're going to be a smart-ass Conrad, you know where the door is.

No, I was actually curious.

Yeah, I don't...

A lot of these new games are just kind of... You know, there's this... I remember my parents like to get like different types of the same.

Like, so like Monopoly had, you know, different amounts.

Yeah.

There was one that had...

Like, it had a debit card on it, or a credit card, I think it was.

So what do you mean, for real money?

No, like it was fake money, like monopoly money still, but you used a debit card, or not a debit, a credit card to store all your money on.

So like the banker didn't have to go through the money, they went through like, they just had like an ATM thing.

See, that's too much.

I think, I don't,

I think that's too much.

All right, we're gonna tell you, I'm also gonna tell you about a really cool event in Madison, December 4th that we're screening one of my, a film I made years ago.

I'll tell you about that.

But right now, without further ado, it is high time we have had this next guest on.

We've been talking about it for months.

I talked to her agent.

She wanted airfare.

I balked.

I did give her a per diem.

She agreed to be on the show over the stream.

I don't even know how that works, but she's here right now.

Civic media news director, Shaly Pittman.

Hi, Shaly.

You know, I prefer to go by Shali Schwabba.

And

you prefer Pete Pittman.

Pete Pittman, when I've suggested that, I didn't really know you that well, and I was so glad you reacted the way you did, because that could be, it could have been borderline creepy for all I know, and you were very receptive and you laughed, and I was, I appreciate it.

Shali Schwabba sounds great, and Pete Pittman, very cool.

Yeah, we should have swapped names.

The alliteration is too much.

It's too much to pass up.

And I have to tell you, you called me today.

We've been trying to, we've been playing phone tag.

I answered a call right after I woke up from a nap.

So I had like this bedhead.

I looked like Yahoo Sirius from

the 80s.

And I noticed it was a Google call.

And so I clicked accept, and then you had to go right away.

And I was like, Oh God, was I?

was I on video?

No.

They're

just taking a Google call without checking first.

So thank God for

that.

It's been one of those days where my hands are sort of operating independently of my brain and I called you and realized I was talking to someone else and that's

That's how we ended up where we ended up.

I'm glad you got some sleep.

I would like some.

I don't really nap.

I just kind of lay there in space out.

That's a nap for me.

So I was just glad

you

didn't see my crazy bedhead.

So and I'm glad we got this worked out.

How are you doing tonight?

I'm doing okay.

I'm doing all right.

How about yourself?

I am.

Calling you from the studios of my alma mater to be quite honest so Doing radio from another radio station.

Oh, okay.

Well, I appreciate your time and appreciate you doing that.

I hope it's not awkward So shall we tell us

You've been here for months now.

You're so good at what you do.

We were talking about this a little earlier, and you mentioned this legislation that might pass that might make community theater thrive.

Can you elaborate on that?

Well, at the start of my day, what I like to do, Charlie Chihuahua, is go through what

bills are up for consideration in the state legislature.

And the past two days have been kind of mammoth days at the state capitol.

We've had excellent reporting from Savannah, Tomah Olson and others on our news crew.

But yesterday, you know, the Senate met and today the assembly had their floor session and there was one bill.

like to go through and kind of poke at the ones that are interesting and look up the hearing here you don't see what what's in there and there's one bill that relates to your show uh... that got unanimous approval today so there's a bill that uh... relate to a property tax exemption for non-profit theaters and i thought

I bet Pete Pittman would love this, so I want to tell you about it.

Yeah, you're looking after your old palpedia.

I appreciate that.

Yep, yep, yep.

So the bill would, so currently as it stands now, right, non-profit performing arts theaters that are outside and have a seating capacity of you got to love their language, not less than 400 people already get a tax exemption, a property tax exemption.

Um, they also have to have tax exempt status no later than 1969.

And

the

bill that was signed off in the assembly today would slightly tweak that so that whether it's indoors or outdoors, uh, it could get it if it's also a, um, let me look at my notes.

It would also change the seating capacity to not less than 240 people,

um,

which is.

significantly, uh, you know, produced and,

and

it would require a tax exempt status of no later than, uh, I believe no less than 1990, right?

So it kind of moves up by 20 years, um, when you need to have that tax exempt status letter.

Um, the bill is supported by create Wisconsin.

It's opposed by the Wisconsin realtors.

Um,

and

the only people who, uh, appeared to kind of submit

Paperwork on it when there was a hearing held it was the Northern sky nonprofit theater in Door County.

So Send it at your way for you to follow up But

I'm going to

relate to entertainment and I want to know

I appreciate that.

And I will say this, Shali.

I am going to do a deeper dive on that because someone just told me they have a connection to it.

So we'll have somebody on and we'll kind of dig a little deeper.