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Animated Characters and Franks Christmas (Hour 1)
Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Tue Nov 18, 2025
Welcome to Nightlight Wisconsin.
How are we doing today?
Oh, it is great to have you.
It is a Tuesday night.
We are broadcasting, as you just heard, from downtown Green Bay.
It is a gorgeous, if not a bit chilly night here.
I'm still getting used to this coming out an hour early.
It does not feel, it feels like I should still be making coffee, Conrad.
I'm not sure I'm supposed to be on the air yet, but I'm supposed to be.
That is the voice of Nightlight producer, Conrad Krieger.
Great show tonight, folks.
Glad you're here.
As I mentioned, we are here at our new start time of five o'clock.
And it's kind of like happy hour because it's like a bonus hour.
And you know that old phrase, it's five o'clock somewhere.
If it's five o'clock somewhere, it's definitely five o'clock in Wisconsin.
So it's kind of happy hour.
Are you a happy hour guy, Con?
Do you go to happy
I had a couple, I had a couple brews.
Nothing wrong with that.
I used to go all the time.
It used to be a big deal, like happy hour.
It started typically at four o'clock and you could go in there and it's pretty much like when you're in college anyway, that's your whole night.
I mean, you start drinking at four o'clock as a 20 year old kid and it's over, you
I think I got to a point, probably in my early 30s, where I'm like, why am I doing shots?
I like to have a drink.
But when you're doing shots, you're just on a mission.
It's like, I want to get drunk fast, and I don't want to remember anything.
some shots that are worse than others.
I know they're like Yeager Meisters and they're like, what's the, oh, there was a really kind of a lightweight one that sort of tasted good.
It was like a lemon lime shot.
I can't, kamikaze maybe?
I
I love it when you go to Marinette to a bar to have a Bloody Mary on a Saturday or Sunday morning, or whenever, any day of the week, because it's five o'clock in Marinette.
They give you a Bloody Mary, and the Bloody Marys are usually really good, and then they give you a chaser.
You heard of this?
Oh yeah, definitely.
But the chaser is like the size of a real beer.
It's like eight ounces of a chaser.
That's the best part.
What do you need a chaser for Bloody Mary for?
It is a Tuesday here at Nightlight.
We have a great show.
Lots of great guests tonight.
We got a really fun question.
We're going to talk about just a couple of issues that are happening here in Wisconsin that I thought were interesting that I saw in the news today.
So we'll discuss that.
And Conrad's going to give us a little packer update in a few minutes.
But yeah, fun show.
Frank Hermans is here at 535.
The legendary Wisconsin performer.
from Let Me Be Frank Productions, Frank Herman.
He's gonna be here to tell us all about his new Christmas show, which opens at the beautiful Meyer Theater, November 28th.
And he will be here in studio, always fun when Frank comes by.
Then Ellie Bordeaux from Up North News will be here at 6.35.
We will get introduced to Ellie.
It's her first time on Nightlight.
And she writes some really cool articles.
Did you know who created Up North News?
It's our buddy, Pat Cradle.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Great resource.
Really is.
I love the way they present the news.
It's like true and it's great.
And the stories somehow they put on like, I don't know, it's just a different field.
There's nothing toxic about it.
It's just great.
So we'll talk to Elliot 635 and get to know her a little bit.
And then our pal Rob Thomas, really outstanding Madison film critic and city cast Madison newsletter editor will be here at 720 to talk movies.
Rob has seen a lot of stuff I haven't seen as usual.
He gets these, you know, he's a critic.
He gets these inside scoops and gets these early viewing.
So he's already seen Wicked, the new Wicked, which opens Friday.
I forgot to ask him if he saw Relay, that movie I saw this past weekend at home.
And I think he's seen The Running Man.
He's seen Pluribus.
We're going to talk about all these new great, all
Well, on this video, I think it was on the WBAY news site, they had a video of this big dump truck that didn't pull over.
Or tried to pull over in the car next to the dump truck, wouldn't let it in, was something like that, but it's horribly dangerous.
And I thought this struck a nerve with me because I drive an hour each way to get here, here and back every day.
To me, it's just a no-brainer and a lot of people listening right now are probably in their cars So slow down folks and if you can't get over it takes nothing to move over and you could I mean people die like a lot of people die every year from that.
right and
Nope.
Oh, see, dude, that's...
Yeah, people bookies would be out of business or these companies if everybody knew when to walk away, but they don't right?
Yeah, no friends that have gotten in a lot of trouble, but I don't understand like in Wisconsin They're getting pushback on online sports betting.
Yeah from conservatives and fan duel and draft Kings How do you place a bet if you don't go online like why wouldn't draft Kings want and I'm a bet obviously I'm very ignorant about this stuff Why can't why would they want it not to be legal?
So I guess the only reason I, this is the only reason I see and I don't see any other reasons besides this is that all casinos, you know, in Wisconsin, they have their own sports, like sports book, you know, there, and they, it draws people in because they, they're one of the only places you can actually bet on sports in Wisconsin.
Yeah.
So that's the only way I see it is like affecting casinos now.
Okay.
talk
Question.
Pregunta.
Question.
Question.
OK, I have a question.
Questions.
This question.
Domanda.
Question.
Question.
It's Mickey Mouse's birthday.
So our question of the night is who is your favorite animated or Pixar character?
I mean be easy to say Mickey Mouse because Mickey Mouse is sort of like the granddaddy Thanks to steamboat Willie animated character.
Thanks to Walt Disney, but There's so much animation now there shows on TV movies kids films.
You've got all the Pixar stuff so
You have a lot to choose from here tonight, folks.
Who is your favorite animated or Pixar character?
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I don't know.
I would say I'm just gonna say right away.
I'll start us off Homer.
Network.
Again we'll shine bright and clear.
Keep on the sunny side, always on the sunny side.
Keep on the sunny side of life.
It will help us every...
I practice at home whenever I know Frank is coming in, but he's got he's got a booming voice, man.
That guy's like So Frank will be here at 535 Ellie Bordeaux from Up North News at 635 and
Our pal Rob Thomas, Madison Film Critic at 720.
Our question of the night is, it's Mickey Mouse's birthday.
Who is your favorite animated or Pixar character?
Let's have some fun.
I say Homer.
I know I always do this.
I can't, because I go Homer for out and out comedy, but I go Buzz and Woody for just sort of sweet, feel good movies.
So I had trouble kind of figuring out which which direction to go in all right con you've kept us in suspenders here through the break
As a
So Fi is a little ostentatious It's got cool kind of a cool design But it almost looks too futuristic like Minneapolis has that that's like the perfect indoor stadium because it looks like you're outdoors with that huge window Love that.
That's a gorgeous
That's kind of like affect your viewership, too.
If Yanis is not playing.
Oh, yeah.
People are like, I'll turn on this Golden Girls reunion show.
I don't know.
I mean, you still watch them if you're a diehard.
But yeah.
All right, let's go to the text line here or social media responses for our question of the night.
In honor of Mickey Mouse's birthday, who is your favorite animated or Pixar character?
Matt Harper, Green Bay rock rap artist.
Love Matt says, Eric Cartman from South Park.
I forgot about Cartman.
He's awesome.
That's a great one, Matt.
Paula Krieger, Conrad's mom, Lilo and Stitch.
Great choice, Paula, outstanding.
Jenny Brand on the social media on our Facebook feed says, animated equals Sailor Moon.
Disney animated equals Gus Gus, the fat mouse in Cinderella.
And Pixar equals Edna Mode, the incredible,
Yeah, maybe.
Thank you, Jenny Conrad says Tom and Jerry Daniel wheeler Danny wheel says lumpy space princess from the animated series adventure time.
I remember adventure time Great one Daniel.
Thank you, buddy Rich look ass you our favorite wrestling announcer and one of our favorite WRJ and Personality says mr. Mezix from Rick and Morty Rick and Morty's a great show you watch that show
I might remember it after yeah, my son watched There's so many great ones out there Dave also says bugs bunny esq.
I don't remember when bugs got his law degree
Those are great answers.
Thank you, everybody.
All right.
Keep those questions coming.
We'll read them as they roll in.
Frank Hermans is coming up next.
Lots of fun here tonight on a Tuesday on Night Light.
So great to have you with me, folks.
I'm Pete Schwabba, and this is Night
It is a Tuesday night in the state of Wisconsin broadcasting statewide from beautiful downtown Green Bay.
Ellie Bordo will be here at 6.35 from Up North News.
We're going to talk about where you can get
Thanksgiving dinner for the needy.
That's gonna be really cool.
Up North News does some great stuff.
Madison film critic Rob Thomas will be here at 720.
Our question of the night is, in honor of Mickey Mouse's birthday, who is your favorite animated or Pixar character?
I said Homer and Buzz and Woody.
Well, I said wasn't buddy.
What
And Conrad says, Tom and Jerry.
So let's ask our next guest, though, what he thinks.
He is one of my favorite guests to have here in the studio.
And I don't like him personally, but I love when he's on the show.
And we just seem to make it work, Mr. Frank Hermans of Wisconsin.
Entertainment legend is here.
Hey, buddy, how are you?
We are statewide.
Yeah, that's awesome.
So they can listen to me in Ashland, Wisconsin.
We're on all the big markets.
I don't
don't know if
Alaska Okay, it's pretty cool by the cross beautiful I'm fantastic and thanks for having me So I got to do the holiday parade this this weekend.
Yeah holiday parade I My wife and I we sing from nine to ten and then we emcee and it's it's
26 so
Anyway, I'm looking at the weather today.
30 degrees, cloudy.
I've done
parade where it was 15 degrees before because we've done it for like 20 years.
And it is hard to sing in that cold weather.
I bet it is.
Yeah.
You know, when there's no wind,
difference.
It makes a huge difference.
I'm a 50 degree guy.
When it's 50 degrees, I'll do it.
Yeah.
I'll swim.
Same.
I'll go swimming.
I've
when I was younger.
I just started doing stand-up.
All my high school buddies from Marinette came down and it was on the 18th floor.
I had two roommates.
It was a blast.
And I said, we're going to go out till four in the morning because the bars are open all day.
We're going to come back and we're going to go swim.
And it was like mid-October.
So I was the only one that went Frank because I was mad at them because they all bailed.
And I crossed Lakeshore Drive like a moron.
And I went in the lake
Such an idiot.
Yeah.
We've all done that.
You would have swam with me though.
I would have, you have that.
I would do, when I was, when I was younger, I'd do anything.
Yeah.
You know, I was a, all in, into that rock climbing crap and jumping off cliffs and.
Okay, tell me
I am not,
Yeah, I was into, I was into repelling.
We got into, I had this buddy, I worked in Columbia, Missouri at a nightclub called Doc and Eddie's.
I ran it and had all these college friends and one was in the, in the, in the.
whatever we call it in college when he going to be in the Army, ROTC.
Oh yeah.
And so he wanted to teach me what an Army Swiss knot was.
And you're supposed to use half inch rope, but we couldn't find half inch.
So we got three eighth inch.
So I tied an Army Swiss seat and went repelling off 135 foot clip with that thing.
And it was my first time ever.
Now that's dumb.
Whoa.
Army Swiss seat is called.
And yeah, it was burnt.
But he kind
was guiding you?
he was, what was he, 19?
I don't know.
I was 21, 22 years old, and I got into that rock climbing, caving, spelunking stuff for a while.
It was a lot of fun.
The word,
actual act of it.
It's a very cool word, spelunking.
It is.
It
kind of
it.
Yeah, how does
tied to you.
But in Missouri, you know, the Ozarks, there's a lot of steep cliffs, but they weren't like the stuff you see like out in Montana and Wyoming where you're climbing on cracks, okay?
These were rocks and it was straight up, but it was just fun.
And I had no fear of heights back then.
Now I get on a bridge.
You know, I'm like, wow.
I know.
I can't do roller coasters.
I can't do anything anymore.
I can't
down.
Well, lately, lots of stuff.
And
putting them together?
Somebody just died last week.
Yeah.
Oh, it's
do you
Pixar?
Yeah.
Well, I have to say, you know, I'm trying to think of Pixar the anger in what is that show where it's the emotions.
It's Pixar.
The kids I cry
and out.
a great movie.
What a sequel was even better better Yeah, I agree and the angry guy played by what's his next a lot the comedian I love his voice guy.
My brain is fried right now.
Oh No, he's the anger guy.
He's always mad.
Oh And what he doesn't come
I don't know.
But I love the whole, that's my favorite character.
That's a great movie.
You gotta look that up now, don't you?
Yes, I do.
I love that movie.
He's always mad.
Gilbert Godfrey?
No, it wasn't God.
Godfrey's the duck.
Affleck.
was
I
in and out to until I just like it I still got young kids, so I go to all these movies yet.
So I so awesome I love it love just saw predator the other night predator Badlands.
Yeah loved it really good movie absolutely loved it and I brought my 10 year old my 12 year old and they just
were fixated.
Did it take
Yeah.
I
and
for a
person.
It was so
Yeah.
Because the other Predator movies, hey, it's kind of a jerk.
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
Lewis Black.
Lewis Black, that's the guy.
Love that character.
That's my favorite Pixar character.
I had a really weird
clowner.
Lewis was the headliner.
I was the middle act.
And my buddy Keith, God rest his soul, was the MC.
And Keith would say anything to anybody.
And Lewis is confrontational.
Oh, I know.
And Lewis started ripping on Dennis Miller's special.
And Keith, that was his island, he goes, well, I totally disagree with you.
And it was like, I was just sliding down in the
chair.
The two of them were like, it was the most
like
well fantastic.
It was a great show great run like a great turnout and You know, we've taken our show as we used to do four-week runs now we do three-week runs so there were bigger houses and We actually practicing gamble bought two shows for their for their company.
It was pretty cool bought it out sold it out so
Well, it was sold out, but they bought it out.
But it was great.
And you know what's funny?
Now that I did a show with Proctor and Gamble, so I thought of a show.
Let me tell you which thing.
Quick trip the musical, right?
So I texted the marketing department, hey, think about doing a show in 2027 called Quick Trip the Musical.
What do you think?
Guess what I got?
A big no.
Come on.
I'm sorry, Frank.
It was, you know, it was classic somebody else, somebody's assistant wrote it.
Well, we get lots of requests for things like this.
We won't be interested in that at this time.
Okay, but do you know what I do?
Yeah, I spelled it out.
So I'm doing a show called Quack Trip.
No cease and desist on that.
I messed with the wrong guy.
With the same logo.
Quacktrip the musical to watch for it in 2027.
or whatever Well, the whole thing is they always say would you like a bag with that?
Yeah, would you like to receive with that?
They say the same things.
It's like it's like rehearsed and which is fantastic.
It's a great organization I got to meet the owner a couple times when we did some fundraising, but Paul trip Paul trip
Yeah, yeah, madam.
And it had to be a big check for cerebral palsy.
That was fantastic.
So you can't.
Yeah, that's
know, that's
That's all it's gonna be Yeah, I would not and I put that I and I've gotten I haven't gotten permission from a lot of people I've only got three cease and desist in my life and one was from Paul McCartney's I did a show called beer and wings and We used a wing songs and I got a cease and desist They wanted to see the script and it said that he ate chicken wings and they wanted me to take that out of
the script.
Isn't that crazy?
But I
correspondence from the management
Paul McCartney.
And one was He-Ha.
I called He-Ha Ho-Down.
I couldn't use the name He-Ha.
So
Ho-Down.
And the third was, I did a show called Grease Trap.
And the logo kind of looked like the logo from Grease.
They said, uh-uh.
And I had four songs that were called, they call them, what do they call, Grand Rites.
Grand Rites are like Disney songs and songs in Broadway musicals that you can't use without written permission from the author.
So I had to take night off.
I had to take out four songs.
Come on.
Kid, you're not.
What if you had done them?
Well, here's the deal.
Do they have a guy there?
You don't get, you don't get a, oh, sorry.
Next time, it's $50,000.
So no, I did not do it.
And they bring spotters.
I've had spotters in the audience.
They hire a law firm and send somebody.
So I am parody.
So I get away with a lot of stuff.
I get away with a lot of stuff.
But we have ASCAP and BMI that we can do songs from that.
But there's certain companies and certain songs that have grand rights you can't do.
how about
reach, man?
Yeah.
It's all Warren Gertz fault.
He put a review out, and then the bots.
They look for things online, and that's how they find out things.
That's
about your Christmas show today.
We should.
We should talk about it.
There's no right standing in the song.
All
I just want to say, first of all, folks, Frank Hermans, this guy is an institution.
He puts out, I mean, how prolific are you?
Put out all these new shows.
And I want to say, last year, your Christmas show, I took my wife and two kids to it.
We saw it.
And I was, I don't know.
I'm just gonna say this, I was not in the Christmas spirit last year.
I don't know what the deal was, it's just one of those years.
Probably the first year the kids were out of the house, whatever, but I thought, let's meet there.
So my son drove up, my daughter came over from Steven's point, and we met at the Meyer Theater.
All four of us
heart with Christmas
It was magical.
It was
Thank you.
And we've written, isn't it crazy?
This will be my 26th different Christmas show this year.
come up with a different theme every year and I think about it all year long.
I don't know what I'm doing next year.
But this year is kind of a Dr. Seuss thing.
It's the who's versus the what's.
Oh, I love that.
Got it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A little Dr. Seuss.
Grinch makes an appearance.
He's actually my wife's brother.
Tom Grinch.
Tommy G. Tommy Grinch, Tommy G. And, well, he should hashtag Jim Carrey, kind of, you know, talk like that, like you're from now.
You know, almost James Cagney.
Yeah,
Stewart.
Jerry, Jerry, Mary!
guitar.
I love it.
We'll do a little
I
photos.
How about
Okay,
I'll be backing you up.
Sounds good.
All right, perfect.
Frank Herman is here, folks.
Always fun when Frank is here.
Our question of the night is, who is your favorite animated or Pixar character in honor of Mickey Mouse's birthday?
We'll come back and Frank is going to tell you all about this year's Christmas show, which you absolutely have to check out.
And we'll talk about a lot of other shows he's got coming up around the state.
Always fun.
Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Epstein talk.
Yeah, light-hearted Epstein.
We should have a podcast with everything, man.
That was pretty interesting.
Frank said he
Back.
Of course.
I gotta get my
it's just called Frank's Christmas, right?
We call it a Frank's Christmas, but it's a different show every year.
It's just kind of become like a, it's kind of an institution.
I tell you what, people have been coming for 26 years.
They bring their kids, you know, it grows and grows.
And as I was telling you off camera, can I say that?
Can I get a camera here?
That, you know, a third of my income was made in the month of December.
It is a huge show, 23 performances.
of Christmas, and it seats over 1,000 people in there, and there's some nights we'll sell out.
It's just wonderful, the attendance, and we make the thing, normally our shows are PG-13, this one is PG.
mean, I say heck, that's as far as
it?
Yeah, what?
In fact, I talk like an elf, so what the heck, sorry for my profanity, Cindy Lou.
Don't be saying that, heck, what the heck?
your
I think the Brady Bunch was a little NC 17 because in fact, we got little comments because there was a lot of stuff happening in that show with Greg and mom and Cindy and some other things.
And they, somebody said that it was incestual, but those were actors.
They're
not a real family.
Right.
So we hit on some of those things that were.
And I'm like, that's the Brady Bunch aren't real people.
They're not real.
Relax.
And they're step siblings.
We've all messed around with step siblings.
Come on.
Give me a break.
Come on.
I had a first cousin.
Did I just say that?
Hope you're not listening.
I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
I was
Frank.
That was a trap.
I didn't know I could believe you went there.
Oh, you got me.
I'm easily, easily
I
this year?
No, we have the kids.
We have our 10-year-old and 12-year-old singing before the show.
And they're doing a funny version of Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer.
Remember that with an all of the other?
Who's all of?
You know, they make little comments on it.
So it's the funniest.
So on Fridays and Saturdays, they're going to perform before the show, that song.
So it's always wonderful.
be Christmas because of course.
Yeah, I mean, I have eight kids.
So Christmas at our house is speaking of the Brady Bunch.
Yeah, no kidding is phenomenal.
And, you know, just the gifts and the food and the, you know, the Packers are playing that day too this year.
No, they're playing Thanksgiving.
I'll be watching that one too.
Yeah.
But, you know, it's always a great time Christmas.
And plus it's like having a day off.
I'm not doing a show on Christmas day.
Yeah.
Christmas?
A Frank's Who Christmas.
Oh, nice.
I love Dr. Seuss.
In fact, when, when I was writing the show, I said, kids, give me all your Dr. Seuss books.
Cause I wanted to put in lines.
Like the, if you, let's come to the show that you'll, you'll hear Cindy a little bit.
Well, I want to get the mayor present.
I'll give him one fish, two fish, maybe a blue fish and a red fish.
You know?
the moose makes it, the cat in the hat, you know, the once-ler makes it, not in appears, but in the verbiage, I use a lot of Dr. Seuss lines.
That's so great.
it's
How fun, yeah.
and ready?
I had this show written, probably would have been a month ago.
Okay.
Yeah, because we're getting Christmas music.
First, I get the music, okay?
And this one is a little bit more modern.
We have some C in there, we got some George Michael, we got some, you know, secular and non-secular music in there, but there's some...
Songs that maybe haven't heard no, I'll remember a step into Christmas by Elton John is in the show step into Christmas.
Let's join the
and Christmas is a time to say I love you Billy Squire So that's awesome.
Yeah, so little Kelly Clarkson in the show Who is
sing
George Michael
I've been a huge fan of...
Last Christmas, my whole life, and I've never sang it in a show.
So this is my first time singing
song in a show.
And I sing it all the time when we do the Christmas parade or we got private parties and stuff.
And I've always wanted to do that song.
And it is, it's one of the songs that's been recorded by hundreds of artists too.
But I wanted to stay true and do the original kind of sound, the Wham sound and, you know, the Casio keyboard sound in the background
great song.
It
Frank Herman says, my guest, he is the founder of Let Me Be Frank Productions.
They travel all over the state, and he is an absolute institution here in Northeast Wisconsin.
Check out his Christmas show at the Meyer Theater.
I just realized you've been here almost a half hour.
You haven't even played anything yet, but we'll do that after the
news.
Sure, sounds
a school.
I love that.
Jill at high school.
We do a fundraiser for the FFA.
They're sending some guys over.
some kids over to Ireland.
So it's a fundraiser.
It's at Gillette High School.
It's our tribute show, Elvis, Reba, Neil Diamond, George Jones, Karen Carpenter, Adele.
And we do our Christmas show.
And there are tickets available at the door.
It's dinner and a show.
It's at 6.30, Gillette High School.
And then Saturday we're up at venue 906 in Iron Mountain.
Doing our Christmas tribute show up there also.
So we're doing that show, I think seven times.
on or off days of the Christmas show in the next month and a half.
That's so great.
So can people book
How would they find out?
Give me a call.
920-371-4070.
Let me be Franks.com.
He just gave his phone number to the radio.
I put my cell phone everywhere because I want to know if you can't get tickets, if I can help you out.
If you're spam, I'm going to answer and not order your roofing or your windows, but I'll talk to you.
And I'll tell
That's so great.
A great sweatshirt, too.
People watching on the stream.
that?
It's a retro.
Lambeau Field, I got this.
I also do Curly Lambeau in impersonation.
In fact, I'm doing it Friday for a group from Germany that's coming in.
So I'm playing Curly Lambeau.
Oh,
Sucks to
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