Over Rated Band & Dexter (Hour 1)

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And now, a man barely six feet tall, but a mountain of muscle, Pete Schwabba.

Hey, hey!

Welcome to Night Light, ladies and gentlemen.

I don't know if I'm a mountain of muscle, trying to get there, trying to work out.

You got this.

You think so?

You got this.

Oh, this woman, this poor woman is walking by the station and she just had surgery and she started telling me all about it.

It's like, she just walked by the window.

And I'm like, I don't know if, just please don't go into detail.

Like she's kind of, look like she wanted to really share, you know?

It's like, no, no, no, no.

Just, I wish you well.

Let's leave it.

I don't want to hear about someone's surgery.

That I don't barely know.

You know what I mean?

Like if I know somebody.

Sure.

You know, just stay away from the details.

Exactly.

I don't need to know where they went.

Where they, where you

went, you know, where they put a knife in you.

Where they surgered.

Hey, I'm Pete Schwab.

Great to have you with me tonight wherever you're joining us from in the state on this absolutely gorgeous fall summer day here in the state of Wisconsin.

At least it's gorgeous in Green Bay.

I'm sure it's gorgeous where you are.

And if it wasn't, or if you had a crappy day, kick back, turn on the radio and kick your feet up and have some fun with us tonight.

We're gonna be talking about all the things we love, movies, TV, comedy, Wisconsin music.

It's a bar band Friday night, ladies and gentlemen.

Terry Barr.

We'll make anyone transition into the weekends.

We'll make anyone's transition into the weekend that much more joyous.

She's so much fun to have on the show.

She's here at 735 bringing new music and really fun conversation, typically.

How do you know Terry?

Do you know Terry's doing well?

Is she having a good week?

I think

so.

Maybe not because of the Brewers, but.

Oh, that's right.

She's never come on the show though and been grumpy, right?

No, I think even if the Brewers lose tonight, she'll still be.

She's just who she is.

But I will say this, the Brewers are not doing well, and Ace Freely died, and she's a huge Kiss fan.

So she might be in a bad mood.

Well, we might have to cheer her up, but we'll do that.

We could do that for our Pal Terry Bar at 7.35.

And then we've got at 6.35, the host of New Wisco Weekend, and she is the Northeast Wisconsin Bureau Chief when it comes to news here at, what do we call it, Civic Media.

Lisa Hale will be here.

We're going to talk about

Well, she's watching a couple new shows that I want to talk to her about.

And last time she was here, probably about six weeks ago, we talked about Dexter.

And she's a huge Dexter fan.

Like literally, like Lisa defines fandom because she's read the Dexter books, I think more than once the whole series.

And she's seen all the shows.

So.

I'm done now, and I want to talk to Lisa about that.

But we're also going to find out she's been watching some scary movies, the new NCIS spin-off, and the new Matlock.

So we'll talk to Lisa and find out what she's watching.

Maybe she can give you something.

Maybe she can give us a good referral.

So that will be fun.

Two great guests tonight.

Serious Girl Power coming to you tonight on Nightlight.

And as usual, on the other side of the glass is Conrad Krieger.

How you doing, buddy?

I'm doing

good.

Yeah.

Any golf

today?

No golf today.

We had to do a couple things, you know,

here and

there.

Yeah.

Still, you know, still got some activity though.

So that's all that matters.

Yeah.

So I wish it was

outside.

What is it?

What did the guy your age though do when you say got some things done?

Like, do you have a side hustle?

No, I had to record a couple different shows, you know, that's right.

So Jim Schmidt show.

No, that was recorded earlier.

The sports

revolution and

the sports

show.

Make the call tomorrow

at

7 a.m.

Also is now available on civicmedia.com

fantastic you could really You could pepper your whole weekend with great shows too.

See the civic media programming does not stop come Friday night at 8 o'clock.

You've got the Dr. Kristen Lyrely show.

Yes,

got Newisco weekend you and I are both contributors to that and we'll talk to Lisa about that You now you've got make the call great sports show on the weekend to the counter part

of and you know We had the the other guys on the show the other the other week so

Parker Olson and Gray

Anderson.

It was

fun.

Of course, sports director Jimmy Cusco.

We did not have Jimmy on the show.

Yeah, well, he wasn't on, but he is on Make the Call.

You know, can we get Jimmy on next week?

We haven't had him on in a long time.

You know, he's also a football coach, so he's been pretty busy.

But I

think maybe we could ask see what he let's just see what he says we got an opening.

I think maybe Wednesday night con keep that on the download Okay So we'll do that we'll talk to we'll see if we can get to me cuz anyway check out all those shows folks over the weekend great shows here at civic media even through the weekend So check them out, but listen we have I had I haven't

I haven't complained too much lately about driving in.

No, be fair.

I mean, listen, I'll be the first to admit other drivers drive me bananas.

Today, I'm on Broadway in Green Bay.

I'm almost here.

I got a guy right on my tail.

And he's got the no muffler, obviously compensating for something.

He's right on my tail.

So I'm taking my time.

I'm like, this guy can wait.

I'm not going to pull up and tailgate the guy in front of me just to let

this

guy.

So whatever.

So I start to turn.

I go to turn on to, what is it?

Main Street out here.

As I'm turning, this guy passes me on the right, which I was expecting him to do, but then it weaves back in and passes the guy in front of me on the left and makes the left turn.

I was, okay.

And here's, here's where I'm going with this.

Yeah.

He's crazy.

Here's the kind of guy you don't want to yell at if he's driving and he pulls a move like this.

He's probably in his 60s or 70s, white hair, no shirt, rocking the moobs.

That's man boobs for those of you scoring at home.

And he just looked kind of crazy.

His mouth was open in a weird way like this guy.

And then he went like 60 miles an hour down Main Street.

Where is this guy going without a shirt that he's in a hurry?

I don't know.

A mosh pit?

Like, to smoke some weed?

Like, what are you in such a... How are you that age without a shirt?

And you're gunning it and you're risking other people's lives.

Where are you going to?

And if you have any ideas, folks, let me know where you think this guy was going.

Phone lines are open.

855-7524842-8557-75 Civic.

I'm just saying, like, he's probably just crazy or was drunk.

But the speeding I don't get you're not wearing a shirt.

Where are you in a hurry to?

Do you think he's just going grocery shopping?

I really got to get there.

I need toilet paper in the world's worst way

Now if

you need some dog

food, what's he doing if you're a grocery store.

Do you let that guy in?

No, no shoes.

No shirt.

No, sir

I had a friend, my buddy Chris is a sheriff in Marinette County and he was telling me about a guy who went into the grocery store and had a shirt on and had shoes on and that was it.

And he was prepared.

I get it.

I get it.

When they said, he's like, I got shoes.

You have to, you know, maybe go the extra mile these days.

No shirt, no pants.

Yeah.

That's an

important one.

I don't care.

I mean, ideally he's wearing.

a shirt and shoes.

Anyway, that just really irritated me.

But I'm not going to, I'm not going to lip off as we say here in Wisconsin to that guy because I think he might have been a little crazy.

I just don't do anything anymore.

You just give him the thumbs

up.

Yeah, well done, buddy.

Get there.

I, uh, I don't, I mean, I, when I think back, when I was younger and I actually flipped people off.

Like if they flip me off or whatever I'd give them a look and now it's like nope I don't do it at all not taking the chance.

You don't know who's it's not worth it

You know I today I did give a thumbs up.

I didn't flip off.

I

don't

do that anymore I Used to when I was younger.

Did you really?

Yeah, but now like it's just scary.

You don't know who's on the other

side.

No,

but this guy like

Almost hit me because he didn't turn his left blinker on going into the left lane.

Oh,

and I saw him.

I'm like, I had to stop.

Right.

And then went to the right lane and they started going really slow.

Nice pass.

Give him a big thumbs up.

Like great driving, buddy.

Well done.

You could go pro, sir.

Hey, speaking of ace freely and Terry Barr coming by tonight, that kind of ties in with our question of the night.

So let's get to the night like question of the night.

Let's talk about the question.

Question.

Question.

Question.

Pregunta.

Question.

Question.

Here, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Domanda.

Question.

Question.

Questions.

This will be a good one.

What rock band or musician is really overrated?

I can't believe it's taken me a year and a half, almost two years to get to this question because whenever I'm at an eatery, a diner,

You know, we hear bands all the time.

We're like, as you get older, you're just like, why is this band?

Why did they take off?

So let us know.

Is there a rock band or a musician you think is really overrated?

Let me know.

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As you're telling us what band you think is really overrated.

Did you let's you when I start in the yeah, you go first come

I said Taylor Swift really I just don't get the appeal to her music.

I never really liked it besides like one song

So you're not a Swifty.

I wouldn't wait.

What's the song?

Oh shake it off.

I know

I don't it's the row Romeo and Juliet.

Maybe I think it's called.

I don't know

I don't know her music, but I like her is that weird and not like I mean pretty I'm not saying that I'm saying like I like that she takes control of her I love what she did buying her music back very savvy.

She seems cool She gives a lot of her money away.

I got no problem with Taylor.

I'm not saying her is like a person Yeah, I don't like I'm just saying I don't like her music and I think it's overrated

just defending one of my exes Okay, that's good.

I might get some pushback on this hauling oats

and Bon Jovi.

Bon Jovi's great, man.

Just can only know one

song.

No, I've got some nice songs.

I'm not saying they weren't, but it really, it's mostly hauling notes.

Because some of it, like Rich Girl, Your Kiss is on my list, they're so like simplistic.

I don't know.

Managers pretty cool.

Anyway, I think they're very overrated.

But let us know what you think, folks.

We can have a discussion on this as the show goes on, as we often do here at Night Light.

Dave on the stream says, Coldplay.

I noticed somebody else said Coldplay, too, on the social media responses.

And he says the Beatles.

I don't get it.

I get it.

He might be joking, too.

But I think a lot of people lately are like a friend of mine posted recently the stones are ten times better than the Beatles And I can that's a good take I Can go with that but let us know what you think folks and this is fun We've got a bar band Friday night and a music question.

So you can't beat that we've established Conrad does not like Taylor Swift

music You know she's she's a great fit for Travis Kelsey, okay

Oh, yeah, that's kind of, they are quite a pair, I will say that.

He seems like a good guy.

He's kind of obnoxious.

No, actually, I don't like the Chiefs at all.

Yeah.

But I don't mind Travis Kelsey.

Yeah, same.

I could, that's a good, that's a good take.

I don't mind him or his brother.

I think they're both entertaining.

They both seem like good dudes.

He, and I actually like, I like when I watch football and I see fire.

Like with, whether it was Tom Brady or Travis Kelsey.

I like those guys, or Caleb Williams even, or like Aaron Rodgers used to do.

Jordan Love?

Not fiery.

Cool as ice, man.

That guy, he does not lose his cool.

No, he doesn't.

Which is probably good if you're his teammate,

but as a fan, I like seeing some fire.

You know, as yesterday, Aaron Rodgers, after a touchdown got tackled by his offensive lineman.

celebrating, and he got so mad at him.

It was so funny.

Such a diva.

All right, we're coming back, folks.

We'll read some of your texts, and I'm going to tell you a really cool story about Michael J. Fox.

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I've got a lot to watch this weekend.

Going to see anything?

I think I'm going to go see that movie Roof Man, finally.

I was going to see it last weekend, but it was so gorgeous.

Although now tomorrow is supposed to be 70 degrees outside.

Yeah.

I'm thinking about going outside in Gulf in a while.

Tomorrow's the day to do it.

Sunday is supposed to rain.

I'll probably go see the movie then if I can coordinate it with my sports viewing.

But yeah, I want to see that I want to see the lost bus on Apple TV that Matthew McConaughey movie about saving the kids Have you seen that?

Oh, you don't have Apple TV anymore.

Did that just come out a couple weeks ago?

Maybe

yeah, and it got good reviews

So I got that roof man.

I do want to see one battle after another again And I've got two episodes of slow horses to catch up on which I'm very excited about this is funny because your frame of reference like Ben riser was on the show the other night We were talking about one battle after another.

Yeah

And there is a very funny scene where Leonardo DiCaprio, who's in a bathrobe, is a stoner.

And 20 years later, it gets called into action by his revolutionary group and can't remember the password.

So he's yelling at the guy and he's stoned and he's like just trying to do his best to get it together and help his daughter.

And he's running on a rooftop following these skateboarders who are like, come follow us, we'll help you out.

And then he falls off the roof like 35.

It's really funny and he kind of, they make it plausible.

Like he kind of bounces off of something and falls down, but it's a really funny scene.

And someone said that would have killed him.

And I said, no, it wouldn't have.

Cause I had a friend named Marty Miller in high school who fell 30 feet off a scaffolding on the stage.

He was putting up a set decoration, building the set and he fell and he only broke his wrist.

Like it was painful, but I mean, you can fall from six feet and kill yourself if you land.

Funny, you know, but

yeah, I mean I landed weird when I was snowboarding and I barely got off the ground and I broke I broke my clavicle almost in half like

Clavicle such a funny word.

Yeah,

that's your collarbone, right?

It's that the part like, you

know Yeah, that's that and that's my point like you can you can kill yourself at a much smaller altitude But this was just reminding me of this horrible accident that's friend of mine.

I'm glad I didn't see it because it

He was fine, 30 feet off a scaffolding, just broke his wrist.

I mean, that's some good luck right there.

I know.

But I do want to see that again.

And I might want to take Ben Reiser's advice and see it on a big like a 70 millimeter screen if I can find something like that before it leaves.

Let's get to some social media responses here on our question of the night, which is name a band that's really overrated or musician.

I just asked that not in question form.

What?

Rock band or musician is really overrated, in your opinion.

Conrad said Taylor Swift.

I say Hollin' Oats.

Oh, Rob Momarts.

I like Rob.

He was here the other last week.

A lot of fun getting to know Rob last week.

He says Kanye West.

Now that's interesting.

I'd say his older stuff is really great.

That's the same thing my son says.

He's like he was brilliant.

Now it's just

garbage.

Oh, he's insane.

Chris Anderson on social media says, you too.

I gotta disagree there.

Thank you, Chris.

Alan Whitebird says, kiss.

We'll bring that up with Terry Barr.

See what Terry has to say about that.

Those might be fighting words, Alan, but I respect your opinion.

I have to say, when it comes to kiss, I think they had some great songs.

They had a great gimmick.

They didn't show their face for 10 years.

Didn't they just randomly show it in a music video?

I don't remember how it happened to be honest with you, but I, I really like some of their songs.

I mean, I know it was a gimmick, but Amanda Nimmer says, Beastie Boys.

I could go with that.

I like like two songs of theirs.

Tony Larino says Coldplay, another Coldplay, same as Dave on the stream.

And then Chris Moreau, Civic Media's own, also you too.

And Rich Vargas, Rush.

All right, these are, we are off to a great start here.

Some of these are outstanding.

I saw this play, play, I saw this book, Michael J. Fox has a new book out.

How would you like to be the guy who was fired from back to the future?

As the lead actor, Eric Stoltz, a great actor, played Rocky in Mask, was in Fast Times at Ridgemont High, was in a couple of the John Hughes films, maybe Pretty in Pink or one of those films.

Really good career.

He's had a great career.

I don't think he's starving by any means, but he was the guy.

He was Marty McFly and Robert Zemeckis fired him.

And I don't know why.

I do remember reading that a long time ago, but in Michael J. Fox's book, he reveals that he reached out to Stoltz and said, hey, I'd just like to talk to you.

This is like 20 years after.

I'd just like to talk to you, but if you tell me to take a hike and shut up and never want to see me, I totally get that too.

But they met.

And Michael J. Fox had nothing but great things to say about Eric Stoltz.

I'm sure Eric Stoltz was like, yeah, I would have rather not have been fired and made millions of dollars in residuals plus the salary, although they probably paid him and sent him on his way.

And they had to increase the budget on Back to the Future by three to four million dollars, this article said, because Michael J. Fox was more expensive at the time.

He was on Family Ties.

But I just think that's such a cool story.

I've always liked Eric Stoltz.

And Michael J. Fox said that the response he got from Eric Stoltz was like, no, he goes, I'm glad you reached out, let's get together.

And they finally did and now they're friends and it's really cool.

But how would you, I mean, I don't know if I could ever let that go.

Yeah, that's, I mean, he's had some other movies at least.

It's not like, it was his only one.

No, and he was in Pulp Fiction too,

actually.

We got a Pulp Fiction clip, don't we?

Yeah, we do.

All right, so maybe we'll fire that up tonight, too.

It's not with Eric Stoltz, though, but it is a Bar Band Friday night, folks.

Terry Barr is here at 7.30, and Lisa Hale will be here after the news.

We're going to talk...

I finally finished Dexter and some of the spin-offs.

We'll talk about that.

We're going to talk about what she's watching, the new NCIS, the new Matlock.

Kathy Bates is brilliant.

We'll talk with Lisa about that.

We'll read some of your texts.

We got all kinds of stuff going on here tonight at Nightlight.

You're not going to want to miss it.

It's Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio

Network.

This is Nightlight.

I am Pete Schwabba.

You've got the Civic Media Radio Network, Conrad Riding Shotgun tonight, and it is a bar band Friday night.

Terry Barr will be here at 735.

I just heard that Man of Action song.

Did you listen to the music?

No.

Awesome tune.

So excited to talk to Terry about, and I'm halfway through the other song too, but Man of Action, just an amazing song.

So Terry will be here at 735.

We'll discuss.

But right now, it is time for us to move to our other total girl power kick-ass guest who joins us.

She is the host of Newisco Weekend here on WGBW and the Civic Media Radio Network.

And she also is the Northeast Wisconsin News Bureau Chief at Civic Media.

And she joins us now here.

She's also, I'm proud to call her a pal, Miss Lisa Hale.

Hi.

Hello

there.

How are you doing?

Good.

How are you?

I'm staying out of trouble as best I can.

I'm sure that's tough for you.

So I tip my hat to you, Lisa.

I know you're a rabble rouser and you're not afraid to mix things up.

I am such a rabble rouser.

It's not even funny.

I mean, I'm in trouble every weekend.

But that's a good thing for a journalist, right?

No.

So I want to ask you.

First, before we jump into some color television talk, what is your, do you have a band that you feel is overrated or musician?

Overrated.

Yeah.

Like you don't understand their fame.

You know,

I'm gonna

say one that, I'm gonna say one that's kind of, kind of gonna be.

I love it.

Controversial

well, you are a rabble rouser.

We've just established that so

I am and

be fearless

may he RIP but I never really understood the the The the Jimmy Buffett thing, okay, and I don't get me wrong.

I like the songs cheeseburger and paradise and all that but the huge

you know, almost like Grateful Dead following he has.

I just never understood it.

Interesting.

Everybody has their own musical tastes.

So I was almost cliche and almost said Nickelback, but that would have been too

easy.

A lot of people say that.

I don't know their music.

I got to give them a listen because I've heard that before too.

But

actually, they're not that bad.

It's just they're a typical three chord band.

So,

you know.

But Jimmy Buffett, you know, he's not like I'm sure he's a better guitarist than he showcases But like his songs are pretty like if I can play them on the guitar, they're not difficult songs, you know, but his lyrics I think I blew out my flip-flop You know like but I stepped on a popped up.

You know living on sponge cake.

Come on, you know, I said holla notes Conrad said Who did you say con Taylor Swift Taylor Swift, yeah

Yeah, let me let me say this about that.

Yeah.

Number one,

Holland Oates.

Come on.

We are talking about Blue Eyed Soul to the teeth there.

Darrell Hall has a voice that can't be beat.

And John Oates does a great job when it comes to arranging the harmonies.

So I will say that about them.

Taylor Swift, come on, you got to give her props.

She was from the time she was a child to now in her mid-30s.

She has made music her business.

She's great.

Yeah, and again, I don't even know.

I know, shake it off.

That's the only song.

Like, I'm not, like, I'm sure I've heard her songs, but I just think she's a tiger.

You know, I love how she reclaimed all of her music and she's, I think...

donates to good causes and all that kind of stuff.

I will say, uh, Hall of Notes, I do like the song, She's Gone.

That's a great tune about breaking up.

They have good songs.

I just feel like I don't, like I'd never go see them in concert, you know?

I don't

know.

I don't think you're going to have that problem because they don't tour together.

Correct.

I can go see Oats.

You could see oats, but yeah.

All right.

All right.

So I've been excited to have you on because you were here a couple of months ago.

We talked about Dexter.

I was in the throes of the show.

I was really into it.

I was only on season three.

You told me about season four with John Lithgow, the Trinity killer.

The best

season.

Lisa, that might be one of the best seasons of TV.

I did not see the end coming.

And I was like, and even without that end, I thought this was a really good season.

And then it just blew my mind what happened.

So, um, yeah, you were right about that.

I totally.

Now the next season, season five started very slow for me because they were dealing with all the, and I was just ready to move past it.

But that season got really good.

And then, you know, without going into detail on every single season, how do you feel, how do you feel about the show and the way the original Dexter wrapped up?

The way the original Dexter wrapped up was kind of like anti-climactic.

You

know what I mean?

And spoiler alert for anybody who's never watched the original series, I'm about to give a major spoiler

alert.

They've had enough time.

Yeah.

When he left on the boat, I honestly thought, okay.

That's it he and Deborah both will be in the water and that's the way it should end I thought he should have either died then or

right,

but then again You know when they showed him in the lumberjack camp and just dead-eyed at the end It made sense, but it just felt anti climactic that he's starting a new life So I did not really love the ending.

Yeah

But it was what it was.

And then we get new blood some, you know, eight years later.

And new blood was, did you watch new blood?

I did.

We'll get to that.

But I want, like, again, there's going to be a spoiler here, folks.

If you plan on watching Dexter, I am about to spoil something.

So I'll give you, I'll just keep talking here for a couple of seconds if you want to turn your radio off.

But I really liked the character Deb.

And I was kind of like.

I was sad to see her go at the end.

I kept expecting her to wake up because she was so crazy too and that wouldn't have surprised me either just for the romantic in me that wanted a good ending.

But the fact that they did what they did shows fearless writing to me and it was consistent with the rest of the show.

So I have no problem with the way the series ended.

The only thing I didn't like was how Dexter himself ended because

I don't think that Dexter Morgan would ever completely ignore the Dark Passenger and start his life anew somewhere else.

I

mean,

he might start his life anew, but he would not stop

the

Dark Passenger.

He cannot.

Once you have, and this is serial killer lore and serial killer 101, once they start, they are not going to stop unless they quote die or are in jail.

Period or can no longer because they're no longer physically able to so I just didn't like and You know, there's nothing wrong with how the writers did it because they did have to leave some sort of opening people love that character so much almost needed that character needed somebody who was a Dark Avenger who was going to get rid of the evil in the world even

though he

himself is evil, you know

That's what he is.

He's a vigilante.

He's like Batman.

And that's why the character is so appealing on some level from a fantasy standpoint.

But my guest is Lisa Hale.

She is the host of New Wisco Weekend, which you can hear on WGBW this weekend.

Conrad contributes.

Lisa does a great job hosting.

She's also the Northeast Wisconsin bureau chief at Civic Media.

I will say this, Lisa, you're right about the killing thing and the instinct and all that, but I thought after...

You know, it was almost believable, too, when you go to dexter new blood.

Was that the next iteration?

That was the next one, yeah.

So when they went to that and he hadn't killed for a while, I was okay with that because even a serial killer, it seems like, could be traumatized.

He lost his sister.

You know, his life has changed.

He's not Miami anymore.

He's in this cold.

I went with that, that he could just have needed a break, you know?

Yeah, well.

I could see needing a break, but I really don't think somebody whose code is so ingrained not to not to allow the bad people to get away with it.

That's why when in new blood, he doesn't let the bad people get away with it, but he breaks his code in many ways in new blood, which.

Yeah was

was a little weird for me, but that's okay.

What how do you feel there was okay?

So there was new blood original sin Resurrection I did not watch original original sin the first episode came on and they showed I think having a baby and I'm like I don't want to go back to Dexter in utero or that far back I just didn't care about it Watch him kill animals or whatever these serial killers do but I so I

If you tell me it's great, I'll go back and watch it.

But which of the spinoffs were your favorite and was there one you didn't care for?

I

didn't care for new blood.

Okay.

I mean, I just, I, it didn't feel like Dexter.

He felt like, he felt like Dexter, like you said, in a, in a, in an emotional or a personality crisis, he's just not himself.

um original sin i did like i i thought they cast it very very well the young man that they cast as dexter i thought did a great great job um the young the young lady they cast as debora foul mouth even in high

school funny

so it was great but resurrection i really liked resurrection

felt, it felt like Dexter in season four.

It felt that good.

That's great.

Yeah, I agree with you.

And there was one season of that, correct?

So far.

Yes.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yes.

And it did get renewed.

Original sin was renewed, but then they unrenewed it.

Okay.

And now we have, you can tell I keep up with the Dexter stuff now, mind you.

But

Resurrection was renewed.

We're going to get a second season of that.

And I'm looking forward to it because the way it ended when he looks in the camera and goes, you need me to do this.

I was like, yes, baby, I do.

OK, so I'll disagree with you on new blood.

I kind of liked it.

in terms of, I love Clancy Brown as an actor.

Yeah, so great.

I first saw him in Bad Boys in like 1978.

He was a teenage prisoner opposite Sean Penn.

Great movie.

Anyway, I'm a fan and he was great and the guy who played his son was great.

And I thought it was believable in the universe because

It was just a different setting.

I liked that he tried to reset his life, but then Dexter, the dark passenger, came back.

And so I was okay with that.

Resurrection, I agree.

And I like that Harrison is part of it, too, his son.

And that's an interesting dynamic.

It's interesting to see Dexter still as a serial killer and a vigilante, but also as a father.

Right.

And I think the Harrison...

character is going to be that leveler for Dexter, whereas Deb was the leveler or his, his imaginings of his father was always his, I think now Harrison is going to be the, but you know, does he keep with the code?

Does he keep

with the

code kind of thing?

So

it'll be interesting to see.

All right.

Lisa Hale is here folks.

We're going to talk about, she's watching.

A couple new shows that I haven't seen yet that are very highly rated.

So we'll get Lisa's opinion on the new NCIS spin off Tony and Ziva.

Am I saying that right, Ziva?

You are saying that right.

All right.

And we'll talk a little Matlock with the awesome Kathy Bates.

Kathy Bates.

Oh my God.

Come on.

She's one of those natural actors.

And I get to say I was in a movie with her, even though I didn't have a scene with her.

Were you really?

Which one?

People don't need to hear that.

Relative strangers.

Really?

Yeah.

You could Google it during the break.

If you don't believe me, Lise, I'm just kidding.

Oh, no, I believe you.

I

believe you.

I just

said.

And we're going to dip our toe into some scary movies.

Maybe we'll give Lise a quick scary movie quiz, too.

We'll see how that goes.

This is Pete Schwabba and Nightlight.

So much more to come.

Great to have you with me on this Friday night on the Civic Media Radio Network.

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It's almost here, folks.

The weekend is almost upon us.

Most of you, it's already started.

Conrad and I have another hour or so.

It is a bar band Friday night.

Terry Barr will be here at 7.35 tonight with awesome tunes and great conversation as always.

And Dave on the stream, I knew he was doing this.

He said, Bruce Springsteen is overrated.

Once my favorite, but he got weird.

His music is great.

His concerts are great.

And then he said to mess with Pete.

That's what my listeners do, Lisa.

They mess with me.

I think you're muted.

Thank you, Dave.

Thank you for... I like to be messed with, actually.

One of those people.

I can take it.

I can dish it out, but I can take it.

You there, Lisa?

I'm here.

Okay.

We have a phone call.

Conrad, is this for Lisa?

For both of you.

Okay, at least can we take a phone call?

Sure.

Sure.

All right.

Who do we have Richard from Waukesha Richard from Waukesha.

Good evening, sir Hey, how's it going?

Good buddy.

How

are you?

Pretty good today.

I Got these all the groups that I think are overrated.

Is that all right?

Sure?

Absolutely Dave Clark five Okay, and Paul Rivera narrators

Oh, yeah.

Does Dave Clark?

That goes back in history.

That was the British invasion.

I

think, is Dave Clark, are they the ones that sing Try to Remember the Times of September?

I'm not sure about that one.

I kind of confused the two groups, actually.

They did some pretty good songs, but, you know, they were like kissed.

They were all costumed up.

Oh, yeah.

And they put on a great show.

Paul Revere had the high boots and the red coat, you know, like the, you know, like, you know, and they were kind of different in that way, you know, more stage.

Yeah.

I do remember the song Kicks.

Yeah.

That was a big song

of theirs.

I

remember.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't know much of their stuff.

Yeah, that was a huge song.

That was W-O-K-Y all day.

Yeah.

Richard, thank you for the call, buddy.

Have a great night.

Have a good night.

You too, pal.

Bye.

All right, that's great.

Lisa Hale is here.

She is the host of Newisco Weekend, which you can hear right here on WGBW this weekend a couple times, right, Lisa?

No, on WGBW, it airs at eight o'clock on Sunday morning on W-I-S-S, which is the Civic Media Radio station in

Oshkosh and Appleton it airs at 8 a.m.

On Saturday and 11 a.m.

On Sunday and you of course can find it at civicmedia.us

love it

That's great.

And it's such a great show.

As I mentioned earlier, I'm a contributor.

I do a classic movie pick every week.

Khan contributes.

Terry Barr, Brittany Merleau, it's just a lot of fun and a great show.

So definitely check it out.

And I could not, I have to say I could not do it without Terry.

Terry is like my rock.

So I appreciate her so much.

Terry is the antithesis of someone who mails it in.

I mean, with all the stuff she does here, it's really incredible.

And she never misses a Friday with us either.

She's outstanding.

So

I have to say something Pete.

Yeah, I did something during the break and I have to confess

Dexter Styler No,

well kind of a little bit of stalking.

Um, I went to your IMDB page.

Okay.

Because I had never been to your IMDB page and I love your profile pic dude.

Oh yeah, I forgot about

That was my COVID photo.

I never had a mustache ever, just a mustache.

And I grew it and my son grew one with me and I ended up kind of looking like Frank Zappa or something there.

You do look a little bit

like

Frank Zappa in that, but yeah, I had to stalk your page for just a second.

Oh, stalk away, my pleasure.

Well,

I'm jealous.

I don't have an IMDB page, so I'm a little jealous.

Well, not too late, Lise.

I don't know.

I'm years old.

Take some acting classes.

It's never too

late.

I could take a few classes.

I'm sure.

Yeah.

But I mean,

there's other actresses my age that they'd much prefer to have, I'm sure.

It's all

politics, right?

I know,

right?

Hey, before we move on to these other shows, I have to ask you, what do you do?

Like you liked all of the Dexter.

You've read the books when that came to an end.

And I do this too.

It's so hard.

It's it's not hard to find a good show, but it's hard to find a show that you like feel part of and you're immersed in the universe.

What did you do?

Or what do you do when Dexter's done and you got to find something else?

I mourned a little bit.

Sure.

Um, but then, you know, I think, I think Dexter was already over when Hannibal

Came out the the TV show Hannibal.

Do you remember that one?

And so that filled that need for murder and mayhem that I have

just like the killers

I Do I do I admit that I am a basic white girl when it comes to that

I

love my serial killers

So, you know, that took the place for a little bit.

And I look for stuff that has that really good writing, that has that hook and pulls you into the universe.

So like from, which I am proud to say I introduced you to.

Yeah.

I told you to watch.

You did.

I watched the first season.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's another good one that pulls you in.

For sure.

out there.

So that's what I look for when it comes to series.

That and then I go to the complete opposite direction and the Great British Bake Off.

So, yeah.

That's a good, varied library of Gekko in there.

Can we keep you through the news and talk to you about some scary movies?

Sure.

Sure.

I'll stick around.

We've got about a minute left.

Kathy Bates, Matlock, how is it?

God, it is so good.

She is phenomenal and there's little twists that happen in every single episode and I just cannot believe the caliber of acting I've always loved Kathy Bates, but in this she just is so so good and I know she said that this is her last thing that she's going to do this series

I'm

like Yeah, and I'm like, I don't know man.

This might get you an even you know bigger career than you already

have

We'll see if those offers keep rolling in, if she can still say no.

Lisa's

going to stick around through intermission here and be back for a few minutes of act two.

We're going to give her a quick scary movie quiz because she's been watching scary movies.

That'll be felt.

They're not too tough.

Don't panic, Lisa.

Okay, good.

Because, yeah.

Yeah.

We are coming right back, folks, for hour two of Nightlight.

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