
Transcript
Over Rated Band & Dexter (Hour 1)
Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Fri Oct 17, 2025
Welcome to Night Light, ladies and gentlemen.
I don't know if I'm a mountain of muscle, trying to get there, trying to work out.
You got this.
You think so?
You got this.
Oh, this woman, this poor woman is walking by the station and she just had surgery and she started telling me all about it.
It's like, she just walked by the window.
And I'm like, I don't know if, just please don't go into detail.
Like she's kind of, look like she wanted to really share, you know?
It's like, no, no, no, no.
Just, I wish you well.
Let's leave it.
Hey, I'm Pete Schwab.
Great to have you with me tonight wherever you're joining us from in the state on this absolutely gorgeous fall summer day here in the state of Wisconsin.
At least it's gorgeous in Green Bay.
I'm sure it's gorgeous where you are.
And if it wasn't, or if you had a crappy day, kick back, turn on the radio and kick your feet up and have some fun with us tonight.
We're gonna be talking about all the things we love, movies, TV, comedy, Wisconsin music.
It's a bar band Friday night, ladies and gentlemen.
Terry Barr.
We'll make anyone transition into the weekends.
We'll make anyone's transition into the weekend that much more joyous.
She's so much fun to have on the show.
She's here at 735 bringing new music and really fun conversation, typically.
How do you know Terry?
Do you know Terry's doing well?
Is she having a good week?
I think
But I will say this, the Brewers are not doing well, and Ace Freely died, and she's a huge Kiss fan.
So she might be in a bad mood.
Well, we might have to cheer her up, but we'll do that.
We could do that for our Pal Terry Bar at 7.35.
And then we've got at 6.35, the host of New Wisco Weekend, and she is the Northeast Wisconsin Bureau Chief when it comes to news here at, what do we call it, Civic Media.
Lisa Hale will be here.
We're going to talk about
Well, she's watching a couple new shows that I want to talk to her about.
And last time she was here, probably about six weeks ago, we talked about Dexter.
And she's a huge Dexter fan.
Like literally, like Lisa defines fandom because she's read the Dexter books, I think more than once the whole series.
And she's seen all the shows.
So.
I'm done now, and I want to talk to Lisa about that.
But we're also going to find out she's been watching some scary movies, the new NCIS spin-off, and the new Matlock.
So we'll talk to Lisa and find out what she's watching.
Maybe she can give you something.
Maybe she can give us a good referral.
So that will be fun.
Two great guests tonight.
Serious Girl Power coming to you tonight on Nightlight.
And as usual, on the other side of the glass is Conrad Krieger.
How you doing, buddy?
I think maybe Wednesday night con keep that on the download Okay So we'll do that we'll talk to we'll see if we can get to me cuz anyway check out all those shows folks over the weekend great shows here at civic media even through the weekend So check them out, but listen we have I had I haven't
I haven't complained too much lately about driving in.
No, be fair.
I mean, listen, I'll be the first to admit other drivers drive me bananas.
Today, I'm on Broadway in Green Bay.
I'm almost here.
I got a guy right on my tail.
And he's got the no muffler, obviously compensating for something.
He's right on my tail.
So I'm taking my time.
I'm like, this guy can wait.
I'm not going to pull up and tailgate the guy in front of me just to let
So whatever.
So I start to turn.
I go to turn on to, what is it?
Main Street out here.
As I'm turning, this guy passes me on the right, which I was expecting him to do, but then it weaves back in and passes the guy in front of me on the left and makes the left turn.
I was, okay.
And here's, here's where I'm going with this.
Yeah.
He's crazy.
Here's the kind of guy you don't want to yell at if he's driving and he pulls a move like this.
He's probably in his 60s or 70s, white hair, no shirt, rocking the moobs.
That's man boobs for those of you scoring at home.
And he just looked kind of crazy.
His mouth was open in a weird way like this guy.
And then he went like 60 miles an hour down Main Street.
Where is this guy going without a shirt that he's in a hurry?
I don't know.
A mosh pit?
Like, to smoke some weed?
Like, what are you in such a... How are you that age without a shirt?
And you're gunning it and you're risking other people's lives.
Where are you going to?
And if you have any ideas, folks, let me know where you think this guy was going.
Phone lines are open.
855-7524842-8557-75 Civic.
I'm just saying, like, he's probably just crazy or was drunk.
But the speeding I don't get you're not wearing a shirt.
Where are you in a hurry to?
Do you think he's just going grocery shopping?
I really got to get there.
I need toilet paper in the world's worst way
No shirt.
No, sir
I had a friend, my buddy Chris is a sheriff in Marinette County and he was telling me about a guy who went into the grocery store and had a shirt on and had shoes on and that was it.
And he was prepared.
I get it.
I get it.
When they said, he's like, I got shoes.
You have to, you know, maybe go the extra mile these days.
Let's talk about the question.
Question.
Question.
Question.
Pregunta.
Question.
Question.
Here, I have a question.
Questions.
This question.
Question.
Questions.
What rock band or musician is really overrated?
I can't believe it's taken me a year and a half, almost two years to get to this question because whenever I'm at an eatery, a diner,
You know, we hear bands all the time.
We're like, as you get older, you're just like, why is this band?
Why did they take off?
So let us know.
Is there a rock band or a musician you think is really overrated?
Let me know.
855-7524-842-8557-5CIVIC.
You can also text us on the app.
Or if you're watching the radio on the stream, drop us a comment in the chat there.
And give us a like or a follow if you're up for it, folks.
As you're telling us what band you think is really overrated.
Did you let's you when I start in the yeah, you go first come
No, I've got some nice songs.
I'm not saying they weren't, but it really, it's mostly hauling notes.
Because some of it, like Rich Girl, Your Kiss is on my list, they're so like simplistic.
I don't know.
Managers pretty cool.
Anyway, I think they're very overrated.
But let us know what you think, folks.
We can have a discussion on this as the show goes on, as we often do here at Night Light.
Dave on the stream says, Coldplay.
I noticed somebody else said Coldplay, too, on the social media responses.
And he says the Beatles.
I don't get it.
I get it.
He might be joking, too.
But I think a lot of people lately are like a friend of mine posted recently the stones are ten times better than the Beatles And I can that's a good take I Can go with that but let us know what you think folks and this is fun We've got a bar band Friday night and a music question.
So you can't beat that we've established Conrad does not like Taylor Swift
I could, that's a good, that's a good take.
I don't mind him or his brother.
I think they're both entertaining.
They both seem like good dudes.
He, and I actually like, I like when I watch football and I see fire.
Like with, whether it was Tom Brady or Travis Kelsey.
I like those guys, or Caleb Williams even, or like Aaron Rodgers used to do.
Jordan Love?
Not fiery.
Cool as ice, man.
That guy, he does not lose his cool.
Sunday is supposed to rain.
I'll probably go see the movie then if I can coordinate it with my sports viewing.
But yeah, I want to see that I want to see the lost bus on Apple TV that Matthew McConaughey movie about saving the kids Have you seen that?
Oh, you don't have Apple TV anymore.
Did that just come out a couple weeks ago?
Maybe
I do want to see one battle after another again And I've got two episodes of slow horses to catch up on which I'm very excited about this is funny because your frame of reference like Ben riser was on the show the other night We were talking about one battle after another.
Yeah
And there is a very funny scene where Leonardo DiCaprio, who's in a bathrobe, is a stoner.
And 20 years later, it gets called into action by his revolutionary group and can't remember the password.
So he's yelling at the guy and he's stoned and he's like just trying to do his best to get it together and help his daughter.
And he's running on a rooftop following these skateboarders who are like, come follow us, we'll help you out.
And then he falls off the roof like 35.
It's really funny and he kind of, they make it plausible.
Like he kind of bounces off of something and falls down, but it's a really funny scene.
And someone said that would have killed him.
And I said, no, it wouldn't have.
Cause I had a friend named Marty Miller in high school who fell 30 feet off a scaffolding on the stage.
He was putting up a set decoration, building the set and he fell and he only broke his wrist.
Like it was painful, but I mean, you can fall from six feet and kill yourself if you land.
Funny, you know, but
know Yeah, that's that and that's my point like you can you can kill yourself at a much smaller altitude But this was just reminding me of this horrible accident that's friend of mine.
I'm glad I didn't see it because it
He was fine, 30 feet off a scaffolding, just broke his wrist.
I mean, that's some good luck right there.
I know.
But I do want to see that again.
And I might want to take Ben Reiser's advice and see it on a big like a 70 millimeter screen if I can find something like that before it leaves.
Let's get to some social media responses here on our question of the night, which is name a band that's really overrated or musician.
I just asked that not in question form.
What?
Rock band or musician is really overrated, in your opinion.
Conrad said Taylor Swift.
I say Hollin' Oats.
Oh, Rob Momarts.
I like Rob.
He was here the other last week.
A lot of fun getting to know Rob last week.
He says Kanye West.
Now that's interesting.
Oh, he's insane.
Chris Anderson on social media says, you too.
I gotta disagree there.
Thank you, Chris.
Alan Whitebird says, kiss.
We'll bring that up with Terry Barr.
See what Terry has to say about that.
Those might be fighting words, Alan, but I respect your opinion.
I have to say, when it comes to kiss, I think they had some great songs.
They had a great gimmick.
They didn't show their face for 10 years.
Didn't they just randomly show it in a music video?
I don't remember how it happened to be honest with you, but I, I really like some of their songs.
I mean, I know it was a gimmick, but Amanda Nimmer says, Beastie Boys.
I could go with that.
I like like two songs of theirs.
Tony Larino says Coldplay, another Coldplay, same as Dave on the stream.
And then Chris Moreau, Civic Media's own, also you too.
And Rich Vargas, Rush.
All right, these are, we are off to a great start here.
Some of these are outstanding.
I saw this play, play, I saw this book, Michael J. Fox has a new book out.
How would you like to be the guy who was fired from back to the future?
As the lead actor, Eric Stoltz, a great actor, played Rocky in Mask, was in Fast Times at Ridgemont High, was in a couple of the John Hughes films, maybe Pretty in Pink or one of those films.
Really good career.
He's had a great career.
I don't think he's starving by any means, but he was the guy.
He was Marty McFly and Robert Zemeckis fired him.
And I don't know why.
I do remember reading that a long time ago, but in Michael J. Fox's book, he reveals that he reached out to Stoltz and said, hey, I'd just like to talk to you.
This is like 20 years after.
I'd just like to talk to you, but if you tell me to take a hike and shut up and never want to see me, I totally get that too.
But they met.
And Michael J. Fox had nothing but great things to say about Eric Stoltz.
I'm sure Eric Stoltz was like, yeah, I would have rather not have been fired and made millions of dollars in residuals plus the salary, although they probably paid him and sent him on his way.
And they had to increase the budget on Back to the Future by three to four million dollars, this article said, because Michael J. Fox was more expensive at the time.
He was on Family Ties.
But I just think that's such a cool story.
I've always liked Eric Stoltz.
And Michael J. Fox said that the response he got from Eric Stoltz was like, no, he goes, I'm glad you reached out, let's get together.
And they finally did and now they're friends and it's really cool.
But how would you, I mean, I don't know if I could ever let that go.
We got a Pulp Fiction clip, don't we?
Yeah, we do.
All right, so maybe we'll fire that up tonight, too.
It's not with Eric Stoltz, though, but it is a Bar Band Friday night, folks.
Terry Barr is here at 7.30, and Lisa Hale will be here after the news.
We're going to talk...
I finally finished Dexter and some of the spin-offs.
We'll talk about that.
We're going to talk about what she's watching, the new NCIS, the new Matlock.
Kathy Bates is brilliant.
We'll talk with Lisa about that.
We'll read some of your texts.
We got all kinds of stuff going on here tonight at Nightlight.
You're not going to want to miss it.
It's Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio
I am Pete Schwabba.
You've got the Civic Media Radio Network, Conrad Riding Shotgun tonight, and it is a bar band Friday night.
Terry Barr will be here at 735.
I just heard that Man of Action song.
Did you listen to the music?
No.
Awesome tune.
So excited to talk to Terry about, and I'm halfway through the other song too, but Man of Action, just an amazing song.
So Terry will be here at 735.
We'll discuss.
But right now, it is time for us to move to our other total girl power kick-ass guest who joins us.
She is the host of Newisco Weekend here on WGBW and the Civic Media Radio Network.
And she also is the Northeast Wisconsin News Bureau Chief at Civic Media.
And she joins us now here.
She's also, I'm proud to call her a pal, Miss Lisa Hale.
Hi.
But Jimmy Buffett, you know, he's not like I'm sure he's a better guitarist than he showcases But like his songs are pretty like if I can play them on the guitar, they're not difficult songs, you know, but his lyrics I think I blew out my flip-flop You know like but I stepped on a popped up.
You know living on sponge cake.
Come on, you know, I said holla notes Conrad said Who did you say con Taylor Swift Taylor Swift, yeah
We are talking about Blue Eyed Soul to the teeth there.
Darrell Hall has a voice that can't be beat.
And John Oates does a great job when it comes to arranging the harmonies.
So I will say that about them.
Taylor Swift, come on, you got to give her props.
She was from the time she was a child to now in her mid-30s.
She has made music her business.
Yeah, and again, I don't even know.
I know, shake it off.
That's the only song.
Like, I'm not, like, I'm sure I've heard her songs, but I just think she's a tiger.
You know, I love how she reclaimed all of her music and she's, I think...
donates to good causes and all that kind of stuff.
I will say, uh, Hall of Notes, I do like the song, She's Gone.
That's a great tune about breaking up.
They have good songs.
I just feel like I don't, like I'd never go see them in concert, you know?
I don't
I did not see the end coming.
And I was like, and even without that end, I thought this was a really good season.
And then it just blew my mind what happened.
So, um, yeah, you were right about that.
I totally.
Now the next season, season five started very slow for me because they were dealing with all the, and I was just ready to move past it.
But that season got really good.
And then, you know, without going into detail on every single season, how do you feel, how do you feel about the show and the way the original Dexter wrapped up?
We'll get to that.
But I want, like, again, there's going to be a spoiler here, folks.
If you plan on watching Dexter, I am about to spoil something.
So I'll give you, I'll just keep talking here for a couple of seconds if you want to turn your radio off.
But I really liked the character Deb.
And I was kind of like.
I was sad to see her go at the end.
I kept expecting her to wake up because she was so crazy too and that wouldn't have surprised me either just for the romantic in me that wanted a good ending.
But the fact that they did what they did shows fearless writing to me and it was consistent with the rest of the show.
So I have no problem with the way the series ended.
I
He cannot.
Once you have, and this is serial killer lore and serial killer 101, once they start, they are not going to stop unless they quote die or are in jail.
Period or can no longer because they're no longer physically able to so I just didn't like and You know, there's nothing wrong with how the writers did it because they did have to leave some sort of opening people love that character so much almost needed that character needed somebody who was a Dark Avenger who was going to get rid of the evil in the world even
He's a vigilante.
He's like Batman.
And that's why the character is so appealing on some level from a fantasy standpoint.
But my guest is Lisa Hale.
She is the host of New Wisco Weekend, which you can hear on WGBW this weekend.
Conrad contributes.
Lisa does a great job hosting.
She's also the Northeast Wisconsin bureau chief at Civic Media.
I will say this, Lisa, you're right about the killing thing and the instinct and all that, but I thought after...
You know, it was almost believable, too, when you go to dexter new blood.
Was that the next iteration?
That was the next one, yeah.
So when they went to that and he hadn't killed for a while, I was okay with that because even a serial killer, it seems like, could be traumatized.
He lost his sister.
You know, his life has changed.
He's not Miami anymore.
He's in this cold.
I went with that, that he could just have needed a break, you know?
So there was new blood original sin Resurrection I did not watch original original sin the first episode came on and they showed I think having a baby and I'm like I don't want to go back to Dexter in utero or that far back I just didn't care about it Watch him kill animals or whatever these serial killers do but I so I
If you tell me it's great, I'll go back and watch it.
But which of the spinoffs were your favorite and was there one you didn't care for?
I
Okay.
I mean, I just, I, it didn't feel like Dexter.
He felt like, he felt like Dexter, like you said, in a, in a, in an emotional or a personality crisis, he's just not himself.
um original sin i did like i i thought they cast it very very well the young man that they cast as dexter i thought did a great great job um the young the young lady they cast as debora foul mouth even in high
Original sin was renewed, but then they unrenewed it.
Okay.
And now we have, you can tell I keep up with the Dexter stuff now, mind you.
But
Resurrection was renewed.
We're going to get a second season of that.
And I'm looking forward to it because the way it ended when he looks in the camera and goes, you need me to do this.
I was like, yes, baby, I do.
I kind of liked it.
in terms of, I love Clancy Brown as an actor.
Yeah, so great.
I first saw him in Bad Boys in like 1978.
He was a teenage prisoner opposite Sean Penn.
Great movie.
Anyway, I'm a fan and he was great and the guy who played his son was great.
And I thought it was believable in the universe because
It was just a different setting.
I liked that he tried to reset his life, but then Dexter, the dark passenger, came back.
And so I was okay with that.
Resurrection, I agree.
And I like that Harrison is part of it, too, his son.
And that's an interesting dynamic.
It's interesting to see Dexter still as a serial killer and a vigilante, but also as a father.
All right.
Lisa Hale is here folks.
We're going to talk about, she's watching.
A couple new shows that I haven't seen yet that are very highly rated.
So we'll get Lisa's opinion on the new NCIS spin off Tony and Ziva.
Am I saying that right, Ziva?
You are saying that right.
All right.
And we'll talk a little Matlock with the awesome Kathy Bates.
She's one of those natural actors.
And I get to say I was in a movie with her, even though I didn't have a scene with her.
Were you really?
Which one?
People don't need to hear that.
Relative strangers.
Really?
Yeah.
You could Google it during the break.
If you don't believe me, Lise, I'm just kidding.
The weekend is almost upon us.
Most of you, it's already started.
Conrad and I have another hour or so.
It is a bar band Friday night.
Terry Barr will be here at 7.35 tonight with awesome tunes and great conversation as always.
And Dave on the stream, I knew he was doing this.
He said, Bruce Springsteen is overrated.
Once my favorite, but he got weird.
His music is great.
His concerts are great.
And then he said to mess with Pete.
That's what my listeners do, Lisa.
They mess with me.
I think you're muted.
Thank you, Dave.
Thank you for... I like to be messed with, actually.
One of those people.
I can take it.
I can dish it out, but I can take it.
You there, Lisa?
I'm here.
Okay.
We have a phone call.
Conrad, is this for Lisa?
For both of you.
Okay, at least can we take a phone call?
Sure.
Sure.
All right.
Who do we have Richard from Waukesha Richard from Waukesha.
Good evening, sir Hey, how's it going?
Good buddy.
How
are you?
Pretty good today.
I Got these all the groups that I think are overrated.
Is that all right?
Sure?
Absolutely Dave Clark five Okay, and Paul Rivera narrators
Oh, yeah.
Does Dave Clark?
That goes back in history.
That was the British invasion.
I
I'm not sure about that one.
I kind of confused the two groups, actually.
They did some pretty good songs, but, you know, they were like kissed.
They were all costumed up.
Oh, yeah.
And they put on a great show.
Paul Revere had the high boots and the red coat, you know, like the, you know, like, you know, and they were kind of different in that way, you know, more stage.
Yeah.
I do remember the song Kicks.
of theirs.
I
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know much of their stuff.
Yeah, that was a huge song.
That was W-O-K-Y all day.
Yeah.
It's never too
I could take a few classes.
I'm sure.
Yeah.
But I mean,
Like you liked all of the Dexter.
You've read the books when that came to an end.
And I do this too.
It's so hard.
It's it's not hard to find a good show, but it's hard to find a show that you like feel part of and you're immersed in the universe.
What did you do?
Or what do you do when Dexter's done and you got to find something else?
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