Halloween Movies & Barr Band Friday Nite (Hour 2)

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Halloween Movies & Barr Band Friday Nite (Hour 2)

Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Fri Oct 17, 2025

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the muscle, trying to get there, trying to work out.

You got this.

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You got this.

Oh, this woman, this poor woman is walking by the station and she just had surgery and she started telling me all about it.

It's like, I, she just walked by the window and I'm like, I don't, I don't know if, just please don't go into detail.

Like she's kind of, look like she wanted to really share, you know?

It's like, no, no, no, just, I wish you well.

I don't want to hear about someone's surgery that I don't.

Barely know you know what I mean like if I know somebody sure, you know just

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stay away from the details Exactly, I don't need to know where they went

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don't where they were you

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wouldn't you know where they put a knife in you

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where they surgered Hey, I'm peach Bob a great to have you with me tonight wherever you're joining us from in the state on this absolutely gorgeous

Fall summer day here in the state of Wisconsin at least it's gorgeous in Green Bay I'm sure it's gorgeous where you are and if it wasn't or if you had a crappy day kickback Turn on the radio and kick your feet up and have some fun with us tonight We're gonna be talking about all the things we love movies TV comedy Wisconsin Music it's a bar band Friday night ladies and gentlemen Terry Barr will will make anyone transition into the weekends will make anyone's transition into the weekend

that much more joyous.

She's so much fun to have on the show.

She's here at 735, bringing new music and really fun conversation.

Typically.

How do you know Terry?

Do you know Terry's doing well?

Is she having a good week?

I think

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so.

Maybe not because of the Brewers, but.

Oh,

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that's right.

She's never come on the show, though, and been grumpy, right?

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No, I think

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even if

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the Brewers lose

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tonight, she'll still

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be.

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That's just who she is.

But I will say this, the Brewers.

They're not doing well and ace freely died and she's a huge kiss fan So she might be in a bad mood.

Well, we might have to cheer her up, but we'll do that We could do that for our pal Terry Bart 735 and then we've got at 635 the host of new whisk a weekend And she is the Northeast Wisconsin bureau chief when it comes to news here at Della at what do we call civic media?

Lisa Hale will be here.

We're gonna talk about well She's watching a couple new shows that I want to talk to her about

And last time she was here probably about six weeks ago.

We talked about Dexter and she's a huge Dexter fan like she literally like Lisa defines fandom Because she's read the Dexter books.

I think more than once the whole series and she's seen all the shows so

I'm done now, and I want to talk to Lisa about that.

But we're also going to find out she's been watching some scary movies, the new NCIS spinoff, and the new Matlock.

So we'll talk to Lisa and find out what she's watching.

Maybe she can give you something.

Maybe she can give us a good referral.

So that will be fun.

Two great guests tonight.

Serious Girl Power coming to you tonight on Nightlight.

And as usual, on the other side of the glass is Conrad Krieger.

How you doing, buddy?

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I'm

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doing good.

Yeah.

Any golf

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today?

No golf today.

You had to do a couple of things, you know,

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here and

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there.

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Yeah,

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still, you know, still got some activity, though.

So that's all that matters.

Yeah.

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So I wish she was

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outside.

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What is the guy your age, though, do when you say got some things done, like, do you have a side hustle?

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No, I had to record a couple of different shows, you know, that's

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right.

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So

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Jim Schmidt

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show, Lee

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local.

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No, that was recorded earlier.

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The sports

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revolution and

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the sports

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show.

Make the call tomorrow

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at

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7am.

Also is now available on civicmedia.com

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fantastic you could really You could pepper your whole weekend with great shows too.

See the civic media programming does not stop come Friday night at 8 o'clock.

You've got the Dr. Kristen Lyrely show.

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Yes, I've

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got Newisco weekend you and I are both contributors to that and we'll talk to Lisa about that you now You've got make the call great show on the weekend to the counter part

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of so and you know we had the the other guys on the show the other the other week so

Parker Olson and Greg

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Anderson.

It was

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fun.

Of course, sports director Jimmy Cusco.

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We did not have Jimmy on the show.

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Yeah, well, he wasn't on, but he is on Make the Call.

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You know, can we get Jimmy on next week?

We haven't had him on in a long time.

Conrad Krieger (co-host/producer)

You know, he's also a football coach, so he's been pretty busy.

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But I think maybe we could ask see what he let's just see what he says we got an opening I think maybe Wednesday night con keep that on the down low, okay?

So we'll do that we'll talk to we'll see if we can get to me cuz anyway check out all those shows folks over the weekend great shows here at civic media even through the weekend So check them out, but listen we have I had

I haven't complained too much lately about driving in.

No, be fair.

I mean, listen, I'll be the first to admit other drivers drive me bananas.

Yeah.

Today, I'm on Broadway in Green Bay.

I'm almost here.

I got a guy right on my tail.

And he's got the no muffler, you know, obviously compensating for something.

He's right on my tail.

So I'm taking my time.

I'm like, this guy can wait.

I'm not going to pull up and tailgate the guy in front of me just to let

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this

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guy.

So whatever.

So I start to turn.

I go to turn on to what is it?

Main Street out here.

As I'm turning, this guy passes me on the right, which I was expecting him to do, but then it weaves back in and passes the guy in front of me on the left and makes the left turn.

I was OK.

And here's here's where I'm going with this.

Yeah, he's crazy.

Here's the kind of guy you don't want to yell at if he's driving and he pulls a move like this.

He's probably in his 60s or 70s, white hair, no shirt, rocking the moobs.

That's man boobs for those of you scoring at home.

And he just looked kind of crazy.

His mouth was open in a weird way like this guy.

And then he went like 60 miles an hour down Main Street.

Where is this guy going without a shirt that he's in a hurry?

I don't know.

A mosh pit?

Like, to smoke some weed?

Like, what are you in such a... How are you that age without a shirt?

And you're gunning it and you're risking other people's lives.

Where are you going to?

And if you have any ideas, folks, let me know where you think this guy was going.

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I'm just saying, like, he's probably just crazy or was drunk.

But the speeding I don't get You're not wearing a shirt.

Where are you in a hurry to?

Do you think he's just going grocery shopping?

I really got to get there.

I need toilet paper in the world's worst way

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Now if

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you need some dog food,

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what's he doing if you're a grocery store.

Do you let that guy

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in?

No, no shoes.

No shirt.

No, sir

I had a friend, my buddy Chris is a sheriff in Marinette County and he was telling me about a guy who went into the grocery store and had a shirt on and had shoes on and that was it.

And he was prepared.

I get it.

He was prepared.

I get it.

When they said something, he's like, I got shoes on.

You have to, you know, maybe go the extra mile these days.

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No shirt, no pants.

Yeah.

That's an

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important one.

I don't care.

I mean, ideally he's wearing.

a shirt and shoes.

Anyway, that just really irritated me.

But I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna lip off as we say here in Wisconsin to that guy, because I think he might have been a little crazy.

I just don't do anything anymore.

You just give him the thumbs up.

Yeah, well done, buddy.

Get there.

I don't I mean, I when I think back when I was younger and I actually flipped people off.

Like if they flip me off or whatever I'd give them a look and now it's like nope I don't do it at all not taking the chance.

You don't know who's it's not worth it

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You know I today I did give a thumbs up.

I didn't flip off.

I

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don't

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do that anymore I Used to when I was younger.

Did you really?

Yeah, but now like it's just scary.

You don't know who's on the other

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side.

No,

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but this guy like

almost hit me because he didn't turn his left blinker on going into the left lane.

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Oh,

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and I saw him.

I'm like, I had to stop.

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Right.

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And I went to the right lane and they started going really slow.

Nice pass.

My goodness.

Give him a big thumbs up.

Like great driving, buddy.

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Well done.

You could go pro, sir.

Hey, speaking of ace freely and Terry Barr coming by tonight, that kind of ties in with our question of the night.

So let's get to the night like question of the night.

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Let's talk about the question.

Question.

Question.

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Question.

Pregunta.

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Question.

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Here, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

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Domanda.

Question.

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Question.

Questions.

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This will be a good one.

What rock band or musician is really overrated?

I can't believe it's taken me a year and a half, almost two years to get to this question because whenever I'm at an eatery, a diner,

You know, we hear bands all the time.

We're like, as you get older, you're just like, why is this band?

Why did they take off?

So let us know.

Is there a rock band or a musician you think is really overrated?

Let me know.

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And give us a like or a follow if you're up for it, folks.

As you're telling us what band do you think is really overrated?

Did you let's you and I start in the yeah, you go first come

Conrad Krieger (co-host/producer)

I said Taylor Swift really I just don't get the appeal to her music.

I never really liked it Besides like one song

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so you're not a Swifty.

I wouldn't wait.

What's the song?

Oh shake it off.

I know

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I don't it's the row Romeo and Juliet.

Maybe I think it's called.

Peach Wabba (host)

I don't know

I don't know her music, but I like her is that weird and not like I mean pretty I'm not saying that I'm saying like I like that she takes control of her I love what she did buying her music back very savvy.

She seems cool She gives a lot of her money away.

I got no problem with Taylor

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I'm not saying her is like a person.

Yeah, I don't like I'm just saying I don't like her music And I think it's overrated

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just defending one of my exes Okay, that's a good one.

I might get some pushback on this hauling oats

and Bon Jovi.

Conrad Krieger (co-host/producer)

Bon Jovi's great, man.

Just can only know one

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song.

No, they've got some nice songs.

I'm not saying they weren't, but I, it really, it's mostly hauling notes.

I guess some of it, like Rich Girl, your kiss is on my list.

They're so like simplistic.

I don't know.

Man-eaters pretty cool.

Anyway, I think they're very overrated.

But let us know what you think, folks.

We can have a discussion on this as the show goes on, as we often do here at Night Light.

Dave on the stream says, Coldplay.

I noticed somebody else said Coldplay, too, on the social media responses.

And he says the Beatles.

I don't get it.

I get it.

He might be joking, too.

But I think a lot of people lately are like a friend of mine posted recently the stones are 10 times better than the Beatles And I can that's a good take I Can go with that but let us know what you think folks and this is fun We've got a bar band Friday night and a music question, so you can't beat that we've established Conrad does not like Taylor Swift

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Her music You know she's she's a great fit for Travis Kelsey, okay

Peach Wabba (host)

Oh, yeah, that's kind of they are quite a pair.

I will say that he seems like a good guy.

He's kind of obnoxious.

Conrad Krieger (co-host/producer)

No, actually, I don't like the chiefs at all.

Yeah.

But I don't mind Travis Kelsey.

Peach Wabba (host)

Yeah, same.

I could that's a good that's a good take.

I don't mind him or his brother.

I think they're both entertaining.

They both seem like good dudes.

He and I actually like I like when I watch football and I see fire like with whether it was Tom Brady or Travis Kelsey.

I like those guy or Caleb Williams even or like Aaron Rodgers used to do.

Jordan Love not fiery, cool as ice, man.

That guy.

Cool, calm.

He does not lose his cool.

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You know, he doesn't,

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which is probably good if you're his teammate.

Conrad Krieger (co-host/producer)

But as a fan, I like seeing some fire.

You know, as yesterday, Aaron Rodgers after a touchdown got tackled by his offensive lineman.

celebrating, and he got so mad at him.

It was so funny.

Such a diva.

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All right, we're coming back, folks.

We'll read some of your texts, and I'm going to tell you a really cool story about Michael J. Fox.

This is Pete Schwabba in Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio

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I am Pete Schwabba.

I've got a lot to watch this weekend Going to see anything.

I think I'm gonna go see that movie roof man finally I Was gonna see it last weekend, but it was so gorgeous.

Although now tomorrow supposed to be 70 degrees outside.

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Yeah, I yeah, I'm

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So

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I'm thinking about going outside and golfing tomorrow

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Tomorrow's the day to do it.

I Sunday is supposed to rain.

I'll probably go see the movie then if I can coordinate it with my

my sports viewing.

But yeah, I want to see that.

I want to see The Lost Bus on Apple TV, that Matthew McConaughey movie about saving the kids.

Have you seen that?

Oh, you don't have Apple TV anymore.

Did that just come out?

A couple weeks ago, maybe, yeah.

And it got good reviews.

So I got that, Roof Man.

I do want to see one battle after another again.

And I've got two episodes of Slow Horses to catch up on, which I'm very excited about.

This is funny because your frame of reference, like...

Ben Reiser was on the show the other night.

We were talking about one battle after another.

Yeah.

And there is a very funny scene where Leonardo DiCaprio, who's in a bathrobe, is a stoner.

And 20 years later, it gets called into action by his revolutionary group and can't remember the password.

So he's yelling at the guy and he's stoned and he's like just trying to do his best to get it together and help his daughter.

And he's running at a rooftop following these skateboarders who are like, come follow us.

We'll help you out.

And then he falls off the roof, like 35.

It's really funny.

And they make it plausible.

Like he kind of bounces off of something and falls down.

But it's a really funny scene.

And someone said that would have killed him.

And I said, no, it wouldn't have.

Because I had a friend named Marty Miller in high school who fell 30 feet off a scaffolding on the stage.

He was putting up a set decoration.

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Oh my

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building the set and he fell and he only broke his wrist Like it was painful, but I mean you can fall from six feet and kill yourself if you land funny, you know But

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yeah, I mean I landed weird when I was snowboarding and I barely got off the ground and I broke I broke my clavicle almost in half like

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Clavicle such a funny word.

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Yeah,

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that's your collarbone,

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right?

It's that the part like, you

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know

Yeah, that's that and that's my point like you can you can kill yourself at a much smaller altitude But this was just reminding me of his horrible accident.

That's friend of mine.

I'm glad I didn't see it because it He was fine 30 feet off a scavenger broke his wrist.

I mean, that's some good luck right now But I do want to see that again and I might want to take Ben riser's advice and see it on a big like a 70 millimeter screen if I can find something like that before it leaves Let's get to some social media

responses here on our question of the night, which is name a band that's really overrated or musician.

I just asked that not in question form.

What rock band or musician is really overrated in your opinion?

Conrad said Taylor Swift.

I say Hollen Oates.

Oh, Rob Momarts.

I like Rob.

He was here the other last week.

A lot of fun getting to know Rob last week.

He says Kanye West.

Now, that's interesting.

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I'd say his older stuff is really great.

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That's the same thing my son says.

He's like, he was brilliant.

Now it's just garbage.

Oh, he's insane.

Chris Anderson on social media says, you too.

I got to disagree there.

Thank you, Chris.

Alan Whitebird says, kiss.

We'll bring that up with Terry Barr.

See what Terry has to say about that.

Those might be fighting words, Alan, but I respect your opinion.

I have to say, when it comes to Kiss, I think they had some great songs.

They had a great gimmick.

They didn't show their face for 10 years.

Didn't they just randomly show it in a music video?

I don't remember how it happened, to be honest with you, but I really like some of their songs.

I mean, I know it was a gimmick, but Amanda Nimmer says, Beastie Boys.

I could go with that.

I like like two songs of theirs.

Tony Larino says, Cold Play, another Cold Play.

Same as Dave on the stream and then Chris Moreau civic media zone also you too and Rich Vargas rush All right, these are we are off to a great start here.

Some of these are outstanding.

I saw this play Play I saw this book Michael J. Fox has a new book out.

How would you like to be the guy who was fired from back to the future?

As the lead actor Eric Stoltz a great actor played Rocky and mask

Was in fast times at Ridgemont High was in a couple of the John Hughes films maybe pretty in pink or one of those films Really good career.

He's had a great career.

He's not I don't think he's starving by any means, but he was the guy he was Marty McFly and Robert Zemeckis fired him and I don't I don't know why I do remember reading that a long time ago, but in Michael J. Fox's book He reveals that he reached out to Stoltz and said hey, I just like to talk to you this like 20 years after

I just like to talk to you, but if you tell me to take a hike and shut up and never want to see me, I totally get that too.

But they met.

And Michael J. Fox had nothing but great things to say about Eric Stoltz.

I'm sure Eric Stoltz was like, yeah, I would have rather not have been fired and made millions of dollars in residuals plus the salary, although they probably paid him.

and sent him on his way.

And they had to increase the budget on Back to the Future by three to four million dollars, this article said, because Michael J. Fox was more expensive at the time.

He was on Family Ties.

But I just think that's such a cool story.

I've always liked Eric Stoltz.

And Michael J. Fox said that the response he got from Eric Stoltz was like, no, he goes, I'm glad you reached out, let's get together.

And they finally did and now they're friends and it's...

Really cool, but how would you I mean, I don't know if I could ever let that go

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Yeah, that's I mean he said some other movies at least it's not like

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yeah,

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it was his only one No, and he was in he was in

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pulp fiction too.

Actually.

We got a pulp fiction clip.

Don't we?

Yeah, we do All right, so maybe we'll fire that up tonight too.

It's not with Eric Stoltz though But it is a bar band Friday night folks Terry bars here at 730 and Lisa Hale will be here after the news.

We're gonna talk

I finally finished Dexter and some of the spin-offs.

We'll talk about that.

We're going to talk about what she's watching, the new NCIS, the new Matlock.

Kathy Bates is brilliant.

We'll talk with Lisa about that.

We'll read some of your texts.

We got all kinds of stuff going on here tonight.

At Nightlight, you're not going to want to miss it.

It's Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio

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Welcome back.

This is Nightlight.

I am Pete Schwab.

You've got the Civic Media radio network Conrad riding shotgun tonight and it is a bar band Friday night.

Terry Barr will be here at 735.

I just heard that man of action song.

Did you listen to the music?

No.

Awesome tune.

So excited to talk to Terry about, and I'm halfway through the other song too, but Man of Action, just an amazing song.

So Terry will be here at 735.

We'll discuss, but right now, it is time for us to move to our other total girl power kick-ass guest who joins us.

She is the host of New WISCO weekend here.

on WGBW and the Civic Media Radio Network.

And she also is the Northeast Wisconsin News Bureau Chief at Civic Media.

And she joins us now here.

She's also, I'm proud to call her a pal, Miss Lisa Hale.

Hi.

Lisa Hale (interviewee)

Hello

Pete Schwab (host)

there.

How are you doing?

Good.

How are you?

Lisa Hale (interviewee)

I'm staying out of trouble as best I can.

Pete Schwab (host)

I'm sure that's tough for you.

So I tip my hat to you, Lisa.

I know you're a rabble rouser and you're not afraid to mix things.

I am.

Not afraid to mix things up.

Lisa Hale (interviewee)

I am such a rabble rouser.

It's not even funny.

I mean, I'm in trouble every weekend.

Pete Schwab (host)

But that's a good thing for a journalist, right?

Lisa Hale (interviewee)

No.

Pete Schwab (host)

So I want to ask you, first, before we jump into some color television talk, what is your, do you have a band that you feel is overrated or musician?

Overrated.

Yeah.

Like you don't understand their fame.

Lisa Hale (interviewee)

Hmm.

You know,

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I'm going to

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say one that I'm going to say one that's kind of kind of going to be, um,

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I love it.

Lisa Hale (interviewee)

Controversial.

Pete Schwab (host)

Well, you are a rabble rouser.

We've just established that.

So

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I am.

And

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may he

Lisa Hale (interviewee)

RIP, but I never really understood the.

the Jimmy Buffett thing.

And I don't get me wrong, I like the songs, Cheeseburger and Paradise and all that, but the huge, almost like Grateful Dead following he has, I just never understood it.

Pete Schwab (host)

Interesting.

Lisa Hale (interviewee)

Everybody has their own musical tastes.

So I was almost cliche and almost said Nickelback, but that would have

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been too easy.

A lot of people say that.

I don't know their music.

I got to give them a listen because I've heard that before too.

But

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actually, they're not that bad.

It's just they're a typical three chord band.

Pete Schwab (host)

So,

Lisa Hale (interviewee)

you know.

Pete Schwab (host)

But Jimmy Buffett, you know, he's not like I'm sure he's a better guitarist than he showcases But like his songs are pretty like if I can play them on the guitar, they're not difficult songs, you know, but his lyrics I think I blew out my flip-flop You know like but I get it stepped on a popped up, you know living on sponge cake.

Come on, you know, I said holla notes Conrad said Who did you say con Taylor Swift Taylor Swift, yeah

Lisa Hale (interviewee)

Yeah, let me let me say this about that.

Pete Schwab (host)

Yeah.

Lisa Hale (interviewee)

Number one,

Pete Schwab (host)

Holland

Lisa Hale (interviewee)

Oates.

Come on, we are talking about blue eyed soul to the teeth there.

Yeah.

Daryl Hall has a voice that can't be beat and John Oates does a great job when it comes to arranging the harmonies.

So I will say that about them.

Taylor Swift, come on, you got to give her props.

She was from from the time she was a child to now in her mid 30s.

She has made music her business.

Pete Schwab (host)

She's great.

Yeah.

Again, I don't

I don't even know I know shake it off.

That's the only song like I'm not Like I'm sure I've heard her songs, but I just think she's a tiger.

You know, I love how she Reclaimed all of her music and she's I think Donates to good causes and all that kind of stuff.

I will say hollow notes.

I do like the song.

She's gone That's a great tune about breaking up.

They have good songs I just feel like I don't like I'd never go see them in concert, you know, I Don't know

Lisa Hale (interviewee)

I don't think you're going to have that problem because they don't tour together.

Pete Schwab (host)

I can

Lisa Hale (interviewee)

see

Pete Schwab (host)

oats.

Lisa Hale (interviewee)

You could see oats.

Yeah.

But yeah.

Pete Schwab (host)

All right.

So I've been excited to have you on because you were here a couple of months ago.

We talked about Dexter.

I was in the throes of the show.

I was really into it.

I was only on season three.

You told me about season four with John Lithgow, the Trinity killer and the best

Lisa Hale (interviewee)

season.

Pete Schwab (host)

I, Lisa, that might be one of the best seasons of TV.

I did not see the end coming.

And I was like, and even without that end, I thought this was a really good season.

And then it just blew my mind what happened.

So, um, yeah, you were right about that.

I totally now.

The next season, season five started very slow for me because they were dealing with all the and I was just ready to move past it.

But that season got really good.

And then, you know, without going into detail in every single season, how do you feel?

How do you feel about the show and the way the original Dexter wrapped up?

Lisa Hale (interviewee)

The way the original Dexter wrapped up was kind of like anticlimactic.

Pete Schwab (host)

You

Lisa Hale (interviewee)

know what I mean?

As it and spoiler alert for anybody who's never watched the original series.

I'm about to to give a major spoiler.

Pete Schwab (host)

They've had enough time.

Lisa Hale (interviewee)

Yeah.

When when he left on the boat, I honestly thought, OK, that's it.

He and Deborah both will be in the water and that's the way it should end.

I thought he should have either died then or

Conrad (contributor)

right.

Lisa Hale (interviewee)

But then again.

you know, when they showed him in the lumberjack camp and just dead eyed at the end, it made sense, but it just felt anticlimactic that he's starting a new life.

So I did not really love the ending.

Pete Schwab (host)

Yeah.

Lisa Hale (interviewee)

But it was what it was.

And then we get new blood some, you know, eight years later and new blood was, did you watch new blood?

Pete Schwab (host)

I did.

We'll get to that.

But I want like.

Again, there's gonna be a spoiler here folks if you if you plan on watching Dexter I am about to spoil something so I'll give you I'll just keep talking here for a couple seconds if you want to turn your radio off, but I I really liked the character Deb and I was kind of like I was sad to see her go at the end I kept expecting her to wake up because she was so crazy too and that wouldn't have surprised me either just for the Romantic in me that wanted a good ending but right the fact that they did what they did shows fearless writing to me

And it was consistent with the rest of the show.

So I have no problem with the way the series ended.

Lisa Hale (interviewee)

The only thing I didn't like was how Dexter himself ended.

Because I don't think that Dexter Morgan would ever...

Completely ignore the dark passenger and start his life anew somewhere else.

I mean he might start his life anew, but he would not stop Yeah, the dark passenger he cannot once you have and this is serial killer lore and serial killer 101 once they start they are not going to stop unless they quote die or are in jail period or can no longer because they're no longer physically able to so

I just didn't like it.

you know, there's nothing wrong with how the writers did it because they did have to leave some sort of opening.

People love that character so much, almost needed that character, needed somebody who was a dark Avenger who was going to get rid of the evil in the world, even

Pete Schwab (host)

though he

Lisa Hale (interviewee)

himself is evil, you know.

Pete Schwab (host)

That's what he is.

He's a vigilante.

He's like Batman.

And that's why the character is so appealing on some level from a fantasy standpoint.

But my guest is Lisa Hale.

She is the host of New Wisco Weekend.

which you can hear on WGBW this weekend.

Conrad contributes.

Lisa does a great job hosting.

She's also the Northeast Wisconsin bureau chief at Civic Media.

I will say this, Lisa, you're right about the killing thing and the instinct and all that, but I thought after, you know, it was almost believable too when you go to dexter new blood.

Was that the next iteration?

That was the next one, yes.

So when they went to that and he hadn't killed for a while, I was okay with that because I

You know, even a serial killer, it seems like could be traumatized.

He lost his sister.

You know, his life has changed.

He's not Miami anymore.

He's in this cold.

I went with that, that he could just have needed a break, you know?

Lisa Hale (interviewee)

Yeah.

Well, I could see needing a break, but I really don't think somebody whose code is so ingrained not to not to allow the bad people to get away with it.

That's why when in new blood, he doesn't let the bad people get away with it.

But he breaks his code in many ways in new blood, which was was a little weird for me.

But that's OK.

Pete Schwab (host)

What?

How do you feel there?

OK, so there was new blood, original sin, resurrection.

I did not watch original original sin.

The first episode came on and they showed I think having a baby.

And I'm like, I don't want to go back to Dexter.

in utero or that far back.

I just didn't care about it.

Watch him kill animals or whatever these serial killers do.

But I, so I, if you tell me it's great, I'll go back and watch it.

But which of the spinoffs were your favorite and was there one you didn't care for?

I

Lisa Hale (interviewee)

didn't care for new blood.

Okay.

I mean, I just, I, it didn't feel like Dexter.

He felt like, he felt like Dexter, like you said, in a, in a, in an emotional or a personality crisis, he's just not himself.

um original sin i did like i i thought they cast it very very well the young man that they cast as dexter i thought did a great great job um the young the young lady they cast as debora foul mouth even in high school funny so it was great but resurrection i really liked resurrection

felt, it felt like Dexter in season four.

It felt that good.

Pete Schwab (host)

That's great.

Yeah, I agree with you.

And there was one season of that, correct?

So far.

Yes.

Yeah.

Okay.

Lisa Hale (interviewee)

And it did get renewed.

Original sin was renewed, but then they unrenewed it.

Okay.

And now we have, you can tell I keep up with the Dexter stuff now, mind you.

But

Resurrection was renewed.

We're going to get a second season of that.

And I'm looking forward to it because the way it ended when he looks in the camera and goes, you need me to do this.

I was like, yes, baby, I do.

Pete Schwab (host)

OK, so I'll disagree with you on new blood.

I kind of liked it in terms of.

I love Clancy Brown.

Who does it?

Yeah, so great.

I first saw him in Bad Boys in like 1978.

He was a teenage prisoner opposite Sean Penn.

Great movie.

Anyway, I'm a fan and he was great and the guy who played his son was great.

And I thought it was believable in the universe because it was just a different setting.

I liked that he tried to reset his life, but then Dexter, the dark passenger, came back.

And so I was okay with that.

Resurrection, I agree.

And I liked that Harrison is part of it too, his son.

And that's an interesting dynamic.

It's interesting to see Dexter is still as a serial killer and a vigilante, but also as a father.

Lisa Hale (interviewee)

Right.

And I think the Harrison.

character is going to be that leveler for Dexter, whereas Deb was the leveler or his, his imaginings of his father was always his, I think now Harrison is going to be the, but you know, does he keep with the code?

Does he keep

Pete Schwab (host)

with the

Lisa Hale (interviewee)

code kind of thing?

So

Pete Schwab (host)

it'll be interesting to see.

All right.

Lisa Hale is here, folks.

We're going to talk about, she's watching.

a couple new shows that I haven't seen yet that are very highly rated.

So we'll get Lisa's opinion on the new NCIS spin off Tony and Ziva.

Am I saying that right, Ziva?

You

Lisa Hale (interviewee)

are saying that right.

Pete Schwab (host)

All right.

And we'll talk a little Matlock with the awesome Kathy Bates.

Lisa Hale (interviewee)

Kathy Bates.

Oh my God.

Pete Schwab (host)

Come on.

She's one of those natural actors.

And I get to say I was in a movie with her, even though I didn't have a scene with her.

So, but I- Were you really?

Which one?

People don't need to hear that.

Relative strangers.

Really?

Yeah.

You could Google it during the break.

If you don't believe me, Lise, I'm just kidding.

Lisa Hale (interviewee)

Oh, no, I believe you.

Pete Schwab (host)

I believe

Lisa Hale (interviewee)

you.

I just-

Pete Schwab (host)

And we're going to dip our toe into some scary movies.

Maybe we'll give Lise a quick scary movie quiz, too.

We'll see how that goes.

This is Pete Schwabba and Nightlight.

So much more to come.

Great to have you with me on this Friday night on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Pete Schwabba

It's almost here, folks.

The weekend is almost upon us.

Most of you, it's already started.

Conrad and I have another hour or so.

It is a bar band Friday night.

Terry Barr will be here at 7.35 tonight with awesome tunes and great conversation as always.

And Dave on the stream, I knew he was doing this.

He said, Bruce Springsteen is overrated.

Once my favorite, but he got weird.

His music is great.

His concerts are great.

And then he said to mess with Pete.

That's what my listeners do, Lise.

They mess with me.

I think you're muted.

Thank you, Dave.

Thank you for... I like to be messed with, actually.

One of those people.

I can take it.

I can dish out, but I can take it.

You there, Lise?

I'm here.

Okay.

We have a phone call.

Conrad, is this for Lise?

For both of you.

Okay.

At least can we take a phone call?

Sure.

Sure.

All right.

Who do we have?

Richard from Waukesha.

Richard from Waukesha.

Good evening, sir.

Hey, how's it going?

Richard from Waukesha (caller)

Good, buddy.

How are you?

Pretty good today.

I got these oldie groups that I think are overrated.

Is that all right?

Sure.

Absolutely.

Dave Clark, five.

Okay.

And Paul Revere and the Raiders.

Pete Schwabba

Oh, yeah.

Richard from Waukesha (caller)

Does Dave Clark?

That goes back in history.

That was the British invasion.

I

Pete Schwabba

think, is Dave Clark, are they the ones that's saying, try to remember the times of September?

Richard from Waukesha (caller)

I'm not sure about that one.

I kind of confused the two groups, actually.

They did some, they did some pretty good songs, but you know, they were like, kiss, they were all costumed up.

And they put on a great show.

Paul Revere had the high boots and the red coat.

Yeah.

And they were kind of different in that way.

More stage.

Yeah.

I do remember the song

Pete Schwabba

Kicks.

That was a big song

Richard from Waukesha (caller)

there, as I

Pete Schwabba

remember.

Richard from Waukesha (caller)

Yeah.

I don't know much of that stuff though.

Yeah, that was a huge song.

That was W-O-K-Y all day.

Pete Schwabba

Richard, thank you for the call, buddy.

Have a great night.

Have a good night.

You too, pal.

Bye.

All right, that's great.

Lisa Hale is here.

She is the host of Newisco Weekend, which you can hear right here on WGBW this weekend a couple times, right, Lisa?

Lisa Hale

No, on WGBW, it airs at eight o'clock on Sunday morning on WISS, which is the Civic Media Radio station in...

Oshkosh and Appleton it airs at 8 a.m.

On Saturday and 11 a.m.

On Sunday and you of course can find it at civicmedia.us

Pete Schwabba

love it

That's great.

And it's such a great show.

As I mentioned earlier, I'm a contributor.

I do a classic movie pick every week.

Khan contributes.

Terry Barr, Brittany Merleau, it's just a lot of fun and a great show.

So definitely check

Lisa Hale

it out.

And I could not, I have to say, I could not do it without Terry.

Terry is like my rock.

So I appreciate her so much.

Pete Schwabba

Terry is the antithesis of someone who mails it in.

I mean, with all the

Lisa Hale

stuff

Pete Schwabba

she does here, it's really incredible.

And she never misses a Friday with us either.

She's outstanding.

So

Lisa Hale

I have to say something, Pete.

Yeah, I did something during the break and I have to confess.

Pete Schwabba

Dexter Stuyler.

Lisa Hale

No, well, kind of a little bit of stalking.

I went to your IMDB page because I had never been to your IMDB page and I love your profile pic, dude.

Pete Schwabba

Oh, yeah, I forgot about.

That was my COVID photo.

I never had a mustache ever, just a mustache.

And I grew it and my son grew on with me and I ended up kind of looking like Frank Zappa or something there.

Lisa Hale

You do look a little bit like Frank Zappa in that, but yeah, I had to stalk your page for just a

Pete Schwabba

second.

Oh, stalk away, my pleasure.

Lisa Hale

Well, I'm jealous.

I don't have an IMDB page, so I'm a little jealous.

Well, it's not too late, Lise.

I don't know.

I'm years old.

So take some acting classes.

Never too late.

I could take a few classes.

Yeah, I'm sure.

Yeah.

But I mean, there's other actresses my age that they much prefer to have, I'm sure.

It's all politics,

Pete Schwabba

right?

Lisa Hale

I know, right?

Pete Schwabba

Hey, before we move on to these other shows, I have to ask you, what do you do?

Like you liked all of the Dexter.

You've read the books when that came to an end.

And I do this too.

It's so hard.

It's it's not hard to find a good show, but it's hard to find a show that you like feel part of and you're immersed in the universe.

What did you do?

Or what do you do when Dexter's done and you got to find something else?

Lisa Hale

I mourned a little bit.

Pete Schwabba

Sure.

Lisa Hale

Um, but then, you know, I think, I think Dexter was already over when Hannibal

came out the TV show Hannibal.

Do you remember that one?

With Mads Nicholson?

And so that filled that need for murder in Mayhem that I have.

Pete Schwabba

You just like

Lisa Hale

the

Pete Schwabba

killers.

Lisa Hale

I do.

I admit that.

I am a basic white girl when it comes to that.

I love my serial killers.

So, you know, that took the place for a little bit.

And I look for stuff that has that really good writing, that has that hook and pulls you into the universe.

So like from, which I am proud to say I introduced you to.

Yeah.

I told you to watch.

You did.

I watched the first

Pete Schwabba

season.

Lisa Hale

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's that's another good one that pulls you in.

And so.

out there.

So that's what I look for when it comes to series.

That and then I go to the complete opposite direction and the Great British Bake Off.

So, yeah.

Pete Schwabba

That's a good, varied library.

Can we keep you through the news and talk to you about some scary movies?

Sure.

Sure.

I'll stick around.

We've got about a minute left.

Kathy Bates, Matlock, how is it?

Lisa Hale

God, it is so good.

She is phenomenal and there's little twists that happen in every single episode and I just cannot believe the caliber of acting.

I've always loved Kathy Bates, but in this she just is so, so good.

And I know she said that this is her last thing that she's going to do this series.

I'm like, yeah.

And I'm like, I don't know, man.

This might get you an even, you know, bigger career than you already have.

We'll see

Pete Schwabba

if those offers keep rolling in if she can

Lisa Hale

still say no.

Lisa is

Pete Schwabba

going to stick around through intermission here and be back for a few minutes of act two.

We're going to give her a quick scary movie quiz because she's been watching scary movies that'll be felt.

They're not too tough.

Don't panic,

Lisa Hale

Lisa.

OK, good.

Because,

Pete Schwabba

yeah.

Yeah.

We are coming right back, folks, for hour two of Nightlight.

After this, I'm Pete Schwabba.

I'm the Civic Media radio

Richard from Waukesha (caller)

network.

Pete Chwaba

Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.

This is Night Light with Pete Chwaba.

Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now, a guy who never leaves the house without wearing a cup.

Pete Chwaba.

Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen for Act 2 of Night Light on this glorious...

Friday night here in the state of Wisconsin.

Such a gorgeous night in our beautiful state.

It is a bar ban Friday night, ladies and gentlemen, Terry Bar will be here at 735 and she has got outstanding music tonight and she never ceases to amaze me.

So you're going to find out some about some really great local stuff.

If you can stick around for bar ban Friday night, we talked about our least well, not least favorite bands, but overrated bands.

That's our question of the night.

What is a rock band or a musician that is really overrated, in your opinion?

I said Hall and Oats.

I kind of said Bon Jovi too, but I pick on Bon Jovi a lot, not that they care, because they're Bon Jovi.

But I said Hall and Oats, and Conrad said Taylor Swift.

Yes.

I keep forgetting.

She broke my heart.

You know, I'm trying to put that behind me.

Yeah, I know.

I'm sorry about that.

One of my exes, you know.

But a couple people, Chris Moreau, Civic Media's own Chris Moreau said, you too.

I think they're underrated, if anything, but that's why this is such a great discussion.

So let us know who you think is overrated when it comes to rock bands or musicians, folks.

Conrad and I also talked, I talked about earlier when a guy passed me today on the right and then kind of

juiced around me and then passed the car in front of me on the left to make a left turn onto Main Street here in Green Bay.

It was horribly dangerous.

The guy was probably in his 70s with no shirt and moobs, but he was in a hurry.

And Conrad and I discussed where we thought that guy could be going.

The guy in his 70s with no shirt.

Where are you in a hurry?

I said the grocery store.

Maybe.

I don't know.

Maybe that should have been our question of the night.

Who knows?

Right now, it is my pleasure to bring back onto the show my guest who helped us close out the first hour.

She is the host of New Whisco Weekend here on Civic Media and does a great job as the news bureau chief here in northeast Wisconsin as well.

And she's a good pal, Lisa Hale.

Howdy, howdy.

All right, you said you hid, it's October, and I think I would love to find out what you thought.

You saw two scary movies, you've been watching them leading up to Halloween.

What can you recommend to listeners?

Lisa Hale

Ooh, if you want me to recommend, I don't like scary movies like, say, the Friday the 13th and the Sawz and all that

anymore.

Oh,

I hate the Sawz, yeah.

Oh, I really despised the Sawz, don't get me started, but.

Um because you know, I've outgrown that when I was younger.

Oh, yeah slash a film was great

Pete Chwaba

But

Lisa Hale

now I've outgrown that I want more substance to my scary films.

So recent I go back, you know, there's classic scary films that that I like the others is One of the best ghost stories ever put on film if you ask me Tell me you've seen the others.

Pete Chwaba

I have not I haven't seen

a high amount of scary films.

Because I don't like slash your film.

I don't mind being scared, but I don't need to see the special effect.

I

Lisa Hale

can't tell you anything more about

Pete Chwaba

the

Lisa Hale

others.

I can't say another word other than Nicole Kidman is in it.

You must watch.

Oh, but she's good.

And

you

must Christopher Eccleston's in

it.

Um, you must watch the others find it somewhere.

It is a ghost story to beat all.

I love it so much.

Pete Chwaba

Now see from 2001 and 84% on rotten tomatoes.

And that's kind of before Nicole Kibman turned really strange in my opinion.

So I will definitely check that out.

I love a good ghost story.

Lisa Hale

It's it is.

It's a good ghost story.

Another one that I really enjoyed that is a more recent film was Black Phone.

Oh, I

really thought that was very, very well written.

And then if you want to go classic kind of not even classic, but taking a classic monster per se.

And we're going to talk about vampires.

If you're going to watch any one vampire film, make it sinners.

Pete Chwaba

Oh, love sinners.

Uh-huh.

You know what?

Actually, that was my favorite movie of the year until I saw one battle after another, and now I would say there's still neck and neck, but sinners is a masterpiece.

Lisa Hale

It really is.

Pete Chwaba

On all cylinders.

Yeah, it's great.

Those are both great recommendations, Lees.

Hey, do you mind if we give you a quick scary movie quiz?

Lisa Hale

You can.

I don't know that I'll do so good, but I'll try.

Pete Chwaba

I think you'll be OK.

I think you'll do just fine.

All right.

Lisa Hale is here, folks.

She is the host of New WISCO Weekend here on the Civic Media Radio Network.

You can hear it on WGW or if you're listening on WISS or you can go to civicmedia.us.

all the podcasts are catalogued from past shows.

It's a great show.

She has agreed to take the Nightlight classic Halloween movie quiz compiled by the Kid Conrad.

You already looked at the press Conrad.

The Brewers haven't even started yet.

What is going on over there?

You look, you just look like it is a hang dog expression.

Conrad

It's just

Pete Chwaba

the thought

Conrad

of the

Pete Chwaba

Brewers.

Are you a brewer, families?

Lisa Hale

It's sports.

Pete Chwaba

Yeah.

Lisa Hale

It's one of those things that has a ball, and I know that people throw it or do something with it.

That's about the extent of my sports.

I'm

Pete Chwaba

familiar with sports.

That's a good analogy of sports.

Thanks for breaking that down like only a journalist could.

Lisa Hale

That's me, honey.

Pete Chwaba

All right, here we go.

Our classic Halloween movie quiz, taken by Lisa Hale, number one.

And these are multiple guests.

So and I will say when I looked this over, the first question was the hardest.

So don't panic.

OK.

In Hocus Pocus from 1993, what are the names of the three witch sisters?

Is it A, Pete, Peter and Patricia?

B, Winifred, Sarah, and Mary.

C, Serena, Elvira, and Morticia, or D, Konkani, or Cortado.

Lisa Hale

It's Winifred, Sarah, and Mary, definitely.

Pete Chwaba

Very well done.

Very well done.

You're going to sail through the rest of

Lisa Hale

this

Pete Chwaba

now.

All right.

Number two, what kind of creature is Michael Myers in Halloween from 1978?

A, a vampire, B, a teen wolf, C, a human serial killer, or D, a

Lisa Hale

ghost?

That one's so hard a human serial killer.

Pete Chwaba

Yes, very well done.

I almost might have said ghosts there because Isn't he kind of dead?

Lisa Hale

Yeah Considered a zombie too because he's kind of not true.

Pete Chwaba

That's kind of why I was thinking like you probably we probably would have given you ghost as well Yeah, number three in Beetlejuice from 1988.

What must you say three times to summon him?

A. Goosebumps.

B. Yummy.

C. Beetle juice.

Or D. It's dark outside.

Lisa Hale

You have to say Beetle breakfast, Beetle orange, Beetle juice,

Pete Chwaba

Beetle

Lisa Hale

juice.

Perfect.

Beetle juice.

Pete Chwaba

Well done.

You are crushing this, Leesh.

You're three for three.

Number four, who is the friendly ghost in a 1995 Halloween themed family movie?

Is it A. Danny Phantom?

Love his work.

Be ghosty.

C. Schwab's or D. Casper.

Lisa Hale

It's D. Casper.

Oh my gosh.

I was so scared that you were going to be tough on me and these are easy.

Pete Chwaba

I don't feel like maybe we should have been, but you're doing well.

Lisa Hale

No.

Pete Chwaba

No.

Number five.

What kind of monster is the main character in Frankenstein from 1931?

A. A vampire.

B. A stitched together human creation.

D. A mummy or I'm sorry.

C. A mummy or D. Mark Wahlberg.

Lisa Hale

Okay, who came up with the ABC and D?

Was that Con or was

Pete Chwaba

that you?

Lisa Hale

Putting Mark Wahlberg in there was classic.

Pete Chwaba

Oh, he knows how to push my buttons.

Lisa Hale

Let's see.

I would say that Frankenstein himself was none of the above.

Pete Chwaba

Oh, well, he did say what kind of monster is the main character in Frankenstein?

Lisa Hale

Okay,

Pete Chwaba

well then

Lisa Hale

I'll give him that.

It's

Pete Chwaba

a

Lisa Hale

sitch-together human.

Pete Chwaba

Yeah, awesome.

Well, you're cruising, my friend.

Five for five.

All right, number six.

What Halloween movie, only 94 mortigolis.

Okay.

What Halloween movie features the quote, it's just a bunch of hocus pocus.

Is it A, the nightmare before Christmas, B, hocus pocus, C, the Adams family, or D, Jumanji?

It's hocus pocus.

Six for six.

Conrad, you ought to be ashamed of yourself.

Number seven, in the nightmare before Christmas in 1993, what is Jack Skellington's nickname?

Is it A, gross looking thingy, B, the skeleton king, D, the pumpkin king, or D, the ghost host?

Lisa Hale

I don't know this one.

I think it's the skeleton king, I think, but it could be the pumpkin king.

I think it's skeleton king.

No.

Pete Chwaba

I was trying to cheat for you, but I'm sorry that is not correct.

Is it the Pumpkin King?

Yeah.

You had it with King.

You were very close.

All right, three more.

Here we go.

OK.

What classic movie features a vampire named Count Dracula?

Oh, god, seriously?

Is it A. The Invisible Man?

B. Dracula.

C. The Mummy.

D. The Godfather of Green Bay.

Lisa Hale

It's Dracula.

You're a terrible putting their Green Bay in there.

Pete Chwaba

He's like averaging one per every other here.

Like he takes a funny.

You could have put Schwab's for that

Lisa Hale

one

Pete Chwaba

too.

All right.

Number nine, what type of creature is featured in the movie Gremlins from 1984?

Is it a zombies, be goblins, see mischievous little monsters or D tourists?

Lisa Hale

Well, it's see mischievous little monsters and aren't they called Mogwai Oh

Pete Chwaba

The bottom line is you got you got to answer right please I forgot about my way All right 10th and final question which of these is a Tim Burton movie a Coraline be monster house see paranormal or d beetle juice

Lisa Hale

That's not fair.

Conrad

Why?

Lisa Hale

I think it's Coraline, but all of them, I think, had Danny Elfman music in it.

So it's like.

Pete Chwaba

Well, the question is, which of these is a Tim Burton movie?

Lisa Hale

Right.

And, you know, Tim Burton uses Danny Elfman all the time.

So that's how I connect.

Pete Chwaba

I think

Lisa Hale

it's Coraline, though, I think.

Pete Chwaba

Unfortunately, I'm sorry.

It is Beetlejuice.

Lisa Hale

Oh, man.

Oh,

Pete Chwaba

I thought you'd get that one.

Lisa Hale

Well, yeah, I thought, I thought.

Pete Chwaba

Lisa, you are toast overs.

Oh, wow.

And

you

are so much fun.

Thank you for being on this show.

Keep up the great work with New Wisco Weekend.

It's such a great show.

And I'm thrilled and honored to be a part of it.

And let's do this again soon.

Lisa Hale

Absolutely.

Pete Chwaba

Absolutely.

All right, my friend.

Have a great night.

Don't watch too many scary movies.

You'll be up

Lisa Hale

early.

No, nothing keeps me awake.

Are you kidding?

I'm a journalist.

We sleep through anything.

Pete Chwaba

I believe that.

All right.

Have a great night.

Thank you, Lisa Hale.

Bye.

Check out New Wisco Weekend, folks, and check out her newscast.

She is so good at, you know, I'm always kind of fascinated by people who are good at news and they're good at something else, too, like hosting a show.

Because have you ever done newscon?

Have you ever broke a story?

No.

See, I could never keep my cool.

I was like, oh my god, listen to this.

And that's not how we can do things.

That's a way to grab attention, though.

Yeah, who's this moron?

Let's go to some text.

We're kind of behind on our text.

Our question tonight is, what is your name a band?

What rock band or musician is really overrated?

I forgot I put really in there.

From these 9 to 0 Wait, where am I?

I'm sorry from the 608 John Murray says hanging with his Is that not for us?

Conrad

That is for what that guy is doing Speeding past you.

Where is he going?

He's hanging with the side piece at the park.

Pete Chwaba

Well, she must be a catch based on his wardrobe That's great.

I did tell people to text him about that.

I missed that somehow.

All right, and John says I go man go

All right, we will finish it.

We will read more of your texts coming up next.

Almost a whole block for texts.

That's what we do here at Nightlight.

And Terry Barr coming up at 7.35 for Bar Band Friday night.

Don't go anywhere, folks.

We're coming back.

This is a very short break.

It's Peach Wabba at Nightlight.

Pete Schwabba (host)

of the

Conrad (regular contributor)

I agree.

Pete Schwabba (host)

I know you're trying to preemptively be depressed about the viewers.

I get it.

You

Conrad (regular contributor)

know, I thought about this, you know, it's already happened.

The game two and game three kind of is just like, all right, nothing else can hurt me

Pete Schwabba (host)

now.

Here's what I will say.

If it has a game, has anyone ever been down 30 in baseball and come back?

OK,

Conrad (regular contributor)

the Red Sox.

Yes, David Ortiz is on the team.

I figured what year was

Pete Schwabba (host)

incredible

Conrad (regular contributor)

Netflix actually just dropped a documentary on that team, which is I might watch that sounds

Pete Schwabba (host)

maybe like oh three so one something like that Was David Ortiz?

Yeah, big pappy, right?

Yeah, big pappy.

I thought it was in the early 2000s, but he but listen all I'm gonna say is if the Brewers are able to somehow come back How how Euker like like I be I guess yeah, that's

people would lose their minds like and say, this is, you know, some kind of eukary intervention, right?

Well, it all starts with one game

Conrad (regular contributor)

at a time.

Pete Schwabba (host)

One

Conrad (regular contributor)

game.

They just got to win today.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Just a little bit of momentum.

Absolutely.

Our question of the night, folks, is you still have time to get in on this, if you want, is what rock band or musician is really overrated?

And in the 608, we've got

Anna from Madison says, hi, Pete and Conrad.

The most overrated rock band is Kiss.

That's number two for Kiss Tonight.

The most overrated performer is Kanye West.

This afternoon, I saw No Packers, No Life, a great movie.

I'm so excited to see that.

Was Todd Alba out there today?

Yeah, he might have been.

I think he did like a remote.

But one of the songs that Terry is bringing us tonight for Bar Band Friday Night in just a few minutes is from that movie, and it's really good.

Great text now.

Thank you.

John from the 608 says, ZamFear is so overrated, pan flute.

Come on.

That's a great text, John, but maybe he's underrated as pan flutes go.

I just don't know enough about the pan flute, but great text.

Angie from Monroe in the 608 says, hey now, it's more like alcohol than someone with the marijuana.

I can't remember what you're talking about.

Conrad (regular contributor)

No, it's still the where he's going

Pete Schwabba (host)

the guy with no shirt in the moobs maybe Thanks, Angie John Murray also in the 608 says whole was talentless.

Oh, that's a Kurt Cobain's Courtney loves band.

Yeah, I wasn't a huge fan either John Angie from Monroe says kid rock totally agree.

Conrad (regular contributor)

Yeah, you don't like him.

Do

Pete Schwabba (host)

you?

I don't like him Get write your own song stop sampling

Conrad (regular contributor)

And

Pete Schwabba (host)

you put a shirt

Conrad (regular contributor)

on.

You didn't like his hair or something like

Pete Schwabba (host)

that?

I don't like much about him.

But you know what?

I did like a couple of his tunes again.

The one he did with Cheryl Crowe, kind of a nice ballad.

I liked it.

But it's something I don't know.

I don't know what it is.

I'm not a huge fan of his music.

And maybe he's great.

Look, this is my opinion.

I don't know much about music.

Bridget from the 818 says Beyonce.

That's as controversial as Kid Rock, no?

She dresses better though.

I would say John from Madison again in the 608 Britney commercial only can't sing live.

There's a lot of people like that Britney Spears Britney Spears.

Yeah, and I think Madonna was like that too Madonna like they had tracks of her singing and they played him and released him apparently it was awful Tony the trucker in the 608 says Pete don't understand the village people's music However, I do get the diverse costumes.

Yeah, I'm with you there Tony.

They had a couple cool tunes though

How much money have they made off YMCA?

It's at every wedding.

Not that you have to pay a residual for that, but macho man in the Navy.

Come on, the hits just keep on coming, Tony.

Steady Eddie says, Pete Taylor Swift is way overrated.

Her net wealth is 1.6 billion.

Are you kidding me?

She is pretty.

A cultural phenomenon and a great businesswoman.

But to me, she is a mediocre music

Conrad (regular contributor)

maker.

Totally agree.

Pete Schwabba (host)

You guys are kindred spirits Conrad.

Uh, holla notes overrated.

Yes.

But the song, Sarah smile is beautiful.

Yeah, I like Sarah smile.

That's a good one.

And she's gone.

He says, I picked the Beatles over the stones.

I think they were more creative and willing to experiment and grow and knew when to call it quits.

The stones are still doing their same old hits 60 years later.

Why?

I'll tell you why steady eddie.

Cha-ching.

Conrad (regular contributor)

Yeah, the only reason for them to keep doing it.

Pete Schwabba (host)

I mean, and what else are they going to do?

Like, if Mick Jagger isn't up on stage dancing around, what is he going to do?

Like, I think that's a job I would never retire from.

The rush has got to be amazing.

I'm sure they get sick of the songs, but maybe they've got such a huge song catalog.

They probably, you know, mix it up sometimes.

But thank you steady Eddie as usual Monica from Mount Horrib in the 608 says hoody in the blowfish all their music sounded the same that's interesting Monica I When you said that I was like hoody in the blowfish, okay?

I liked a couple of their songs, but I'm with you that they all sounded the same and As a result they didn't last that long

Conrad (regular contributor)

quick question.

What's one of the friends characters kissed one of the blowfishes?

Pete Schwabba (host)

It was, yeah.

It was Monica, right?

Yeah.

And it was a blowfish, though.

It wasn't Hootie.

Hootie had already broken off and gone his own.

Darius Ruckers got his own career and everything.

I just want to say this.

This drives me crazy.

I write these Hollywood beats, and I comb all the trade papers and all the gossip stuff, looking for fun stories that I can write up, make a joke about, or just be informative, because I break all the big stories, like Lisa Hill.

This drove me crazy.

The New York Post is the worst.

The fall of an icon, Diane Keaton's cause of death revealed after shocking passing at age 79.

Then you read the article and it's like, well, she died of pneumonia.

She wasn't young.

And she battled skin cancer.

It's such a misleading headline.

Well, it's, you know, they do it to get the clicks.

Of course they do.

But sometimes they don't.

It's not like everything they post is like that.

So when this I was like, oh my God, what was she into?

Like I was expecting heroin or meth or something.

And it's like, oh, she's that pneumonia like many people who are 80 years old.

All right, ladies and gentlemen, I don't want to get you too excited, but in just a few minutes, our Pal Terry bar will be here.

It's a bar band Friday night and we are coming right back.

It's Pete Schwabba in

Conrad (regular contributor)

Nightlight.

To.

Pete Schwabba

Time to check out original music with Bar Band Friday on Nightlight.

Now your host, Pete Schwabba and special guest, Terry Barr.

Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to one of our favorite times of the week.

It is 7.35 on a Friday night and that can only mean one thing, our pal and MaxSync radio co-host and our Wisconsin music expert, Terry Barr joins us now over the stream and she has outdone herself, folks.

If you don't like the music she brought this week, I will give you your money back.

It's free, Terry.

Terry Barr

It

Pete Schwabba

doesn't matter

Terry Barr

to me.

How are

Pete Schwabba

you?

Terry Barr

I'm good.

How are you and Conrad doing and how are all the listeners?

Pete Schwabba

So far, so good.

We have a great question tonight.

And I kind of chose this because I knew you would be here.

And the question is, what is a really overrated band or musician?

And, you know, but it's kind of serendipitous.

Like, it's a good question, but also Ace really passed away.

I know you're a huge Kiss fan, so I am sorry for your loss.

I don't mean that facetiously.

I know that we get connected to musicians and people that bring so much joy to our lives.

So I

Terry Barr

am sorry about his

Pete Schwabba

passing.

But do you have a band that you think

Terry Barr

is overrated?

Pete Schwabba

Someone

Terry Barr

who knows music?

I was listening earlier and I heard someone say it was KISS.

Couple people.

I would absolutely argue against that, but that's okay.

I appreciate everybody's opinions.

You know, I had to really think about this and kind of think outside the box because when you listen to pop music, current pop music,

I don't know.

It all sounds the same.

And how are they making it?

And the people that are really so good are not.

But I think what really gets me is all the K-pop music.

Pete Schwabba

Okay.

Terry Barr

Are they singing?

Do they sing?

Do they write their songs?

I just, I can't stand it.

Pete Schwabba

Con, I'm going to change Terry's mind on that.

I think when we go to the break, a little BTS.

let's fire that

Terry Barr

we played that

Pete Schwabba

in a while either so I think Conrad's with you I give him all these songs he plays like two of them so he either hates my taste in music or he finds

Terry Barr

that's a good indication

Pete Schwabba

yes so I will agree with you though like rock and roll all night I was made for loving you Detroit Rock City that was the first album my own was Destroyer and oh I mean Doctor loves a little thing I'm not saying they don't have their

Oh,

Terry Barr

every band does, but who put out music in the way that they did and stood up and said, we are going to be famous.

It's like they had that mantra in their head when they were kids and they made it happen.

It's incredible.

Pete Schwabba

Here's another one I like of theirs.

Oh, I just had it here.

Got a thunder.

No, no, no, no.

King of the nighttime world.

Terry Barr

Oh, that's a great song, right?

Yeah.

So sorry.

If you listen to Ace Freyley's solo album, though, obviously it was the best seller of the time.

That's what I hear.

Pete Schwabba

Yeah.

Terry Barr

Those songs back to back to back still stand up today.

Of course, New York groove is still played all the time.

Huh.

And the very first song on that album is actually my favorite.

It's called Rip It Out.

And he's talking about some girl that took his heart and ripped it out of his chest and how that felt.

And I just love it.

It's such a jam, too.

Pete Schwabba

Oh, that's great.

Yes.

I was just reading about him yesterday and how his solo album was.

Considered critically to the best of all of their solo albums

Terry Barr

because

Pete Schwabba

they all did one.

So

Terry Barr

yes

Pete Schwabba

Anyway,

Terry Barr

I knew we were

Pete Schwabba

gonna have some some kiss talk with you when I was absolutely Conrad's most overrated was Taylor Swift mine was Hollanoots

Let's jump into some music here tonight.

Conrad

Oh my

Pete Schwabba

gosh.

You, I like both of these songs.

One of them blew me away.

I love it.

And it's part of a movie.

Should we start with that one?

Or should we start with, well, Dylan Chambers or... It's

Terry Barr

your show, Pete.

I know, but... You tell

Pete Schwabba

me which... Yeah, but... What are you feeling?

What are you feeling?

Terry Barr

Let's

Pete Schwabba

go with Dylan Chambers first then.

Let's do an opening.

I feel like Driftless Pony Club is kind of a showstopper, so let's not let's let that headline.

But Dylan Chambers is a great tune.

I really like what you had to say about this in the connection to Wisconsin too.

Terry Barr

It's incredible.

Sam Lyons is the connection to Wisconsin.

Born and raised in Madison.

He only moved to LA a year ago, and only because he wanted to see what would happen.

He felt young enough.

He didn't have any ties.

So off he goes.

He writes his whole new album out there.

It is now up for a Grammy.

So something, yeah, something is inspiring him.

He made it through the first round.

of voting for Grammys.

So again, his name is Sam Lyons, L-Y-O-N-S.

He comes back and plays around Wisconsin every couple of months.

So he hasn't left Wisconsin totally behind.

But why we're listening to this song tonight, it reminds me of so many people that go to Nashville to write songs for other people.

Conrad

And

Terry Barr

that's what happened with Sam.

He met this guy.

And the guy liked what Sam was already doing.

He said, would you write a song that I could do?

But I think they became such good friends through the process that Sam is on the song.

He's playing guitar.

He's doing background vocals.

And then he's the songwriter as well.

I just love that.

Pete Schwabba

Wow.

Terry Barr

So how old is he?

But Sam is still, I think, only in his 20s.

Pete Schwabba

That's impressive.

So

Terry Barr

yeah, and I guess if you're going to do it, do it then, right?

Pete Schwabba

Oh, absolutely.

Terry Barr

You've done it, so you know.

I

Pete Schwabba

have, but I've never been nominated for a Grammy because I can't

Terry Barr

sing.

I

Pete Schwabba

know.

But he, it's impressive that these, I'm amazed when I hear lyrics like this from someone so young.

That's really what I find kind of fascinating.

Should we play the song?

Terry Barr

Sure.

Pete Schwabba

This just dropped last night, right?

Terry Barr

It did.

It's brand new off of Dylan Chambers' brand new album.

And this is one of the first songs that was released last night.

Pete Schwabba

I love it.

This is a whatever happens compliments of Terry Barr through Sam Lyons and Dylan

SPEAKER_02

Chambers.

No more time.

Terry Barr

I think we need to keep these names Dylan Chambers and Sam Lyons in front of us.

This sounds like a hit to me.

Pete Schwabba

Absolutely.

And if he's already Grammy nominated, that's incredible.

Terry Barr

We

Pete Schwabba

have to get like has he

Terry Barr

been

Pete Schwabba

on

Terry Barr

Max, Inc.

Yes, a long time ago.

Yes.

It was even it was before he moved to LA.

But I need to actually get ahold of him and ask him next time he's in town to come back on with us.

He's the nicest guy.

He's so terrific.

Pete Schwabba

Oh, that's so great.

Yeah.

And you love seeing a nice, like you said, if you know him a little bit, he's a good guy, you just cheer for their success even more.

That's so, so great.

And

Terry Barr

I like to bring these different things to you when I can just to show, you know, you can make it here, but sometimes when you go somewhere else, it's fun to see what happens to people too.

Pete Schwabba

Oh, definitely.

And check out folks go to YouTube and type in Dylan Chambers whatever happens because the I don't know if that's album artwork or whatever, but it's pretty

Terry Barr

cool.

Pete Schwabba

The guy opening the door and there's like a

Terry Barr

big

Pete Schwabba

rainbow and a wheat field.

It's just really cool.

I love the album work.

All right.

So tell us about this song.

I thought was great.

And I love the connection to the movie.

No Packers, No Life.

Tell us about the Driftless Pony Club.

What a cool name that is.

Terry Barr

Isn't that the best name?

The minute I heard the name I said to myself, I gotta find out who these guys are.

They formed at UW Madison in 1999.

They are now based out of Chicago.

They haven't been touring because a couple of the members in particular, the lead singer who also writes a lot of the songs, his name is Craig Benzine.

He is the director of the film that just came out.

It was released publicly today called No Packers, No Life.

Pete Schwabba

All right, time out.

Yeah, Craig Benzine is great.

He's been

Terry Barr

on

Pete Schwabba

the show.

He's been on the show a couple of times.

I interviewed him on PBS Wisconsin for the film festival episode of the TV show I host.

He, yeah, he's incredibly talented.

He's Weezy Waiter.

He's got like over a million followers

Terry Barr

on YouTube.

So he's

Pete Schwabba

an influencer.

He made this movie.

Are you telling me he's in

Terry Barr

this band too?

I got he's been in this band since 99.

And he is one of the guys that wrote this song that we're going to listen to.

You've

Pete Schwabba

got

Terry Barr

to be

Pete Schwabba

kidding me.

That's amazing.

Terry Barr

No.

No.

No.

As you know then.

Yes.

Director of No Packers, No Life.

Pete Schwabba

Yeah.

Terry Barr

Crazy cool look at this Japanese cheer club that turns out loves the Green Bay Packers.

So as part of this film, they bring them to Green Bay.

Yeah.

I mean, it's just crazy cool.

And so they wrote this song for the movie.

Pete Schwabba

You probably maybe already know this.

Sean Hannish, who made the film just a bit outside with Kelly Gall.

Yes.

They've been on the show too.

And Sean's been on several times.

And last he was on, I got an email from a publicist saying, you got to have Sean on to talk about No Packers and Alive.

I'm like, what?

So he's distributing it on behalf, you know, for Craig.

So so much talent tied to this film.

And this song is great.

Is this song in the movie?

Terry Barr

It is in the movie written for the movie.

And as you know, Craig's ties are all back to Wisconsin again.

We made it as far as Chicago.

So, you know, whatever.

Pete Schwabba

Yeah, he's staying pretty close.

That's kind

Terry Barr

of cool.

I've heard some interviews with him recently as the movie was coming out where he just loves Wisconsin sports so much that he was thrilled to be part of this.

Pete Schwabba

Yeah, he does.

He's a really fun guest to have.

If you could ever have him on Max Inc Radio 2.

Terry Barr

I love the idea, Pete.

Thank you.

Yeah,

Pete Schwabba

he's terrific.

So all right, we are going to do a very short break.

And then we'll come back and we are going to play the song Man of Action.

And this will knock your socks off, folks.

You don't want to

Terry Barr

miss this

Pete Schwabba

song out of the movie.

No Live, a great tune.

We're coming right back.

It's Pete Schwab and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network with Terry Barr.

Host

We are in the home stretch on this Friday night edition of Night Light, a beautiful, positively beautiful night here in the state of Wisconsin.

Hope you're having a great night and glad you're with me tonight.

We've had a lot of fun here and still more to come with our guest and my co-host here for a Bar Band Friday night, the lovely and talented and crazy music fan, Terry Barr.

Terry Barr (co-host)

I love when I can surprise you with something too.

Host

This is so great.

I had no idea.

We were saying before the break that Craig Benzine is also part of this Driftless Pony Club.

And I didn't know that.

I knew the guy was multi-talented and a heck of a good guy.

But this will be fun.

All right.

So

Terry Barr (co-host)

this

Host

is the song Man of Action.

by the Driftless Pony Club, and you can see it, if you check out the movie, No Packers, No Life, a really great movie, it's in theaters right now.

Terry Barr (co-host)

It is, it is all around the state at Marcus Theaters.

Host

Outstanding, so let's hear Craig's latest creation, in addition to his movie, and he's got some great people around him, I'm sure, in the band as well.

This is the Driftless Pony Club, Man of Action.

me to stay in my chair.

That is such

Terry Barr (co-host)

a great

Host

song.

Terry Barr (co-host)

That is so fun.

And can't you even hear that?

At some point, the Packers actually play that at Lambeau Field.

They should.

Host

That's

Terry Barr (co-host)

a great song.

Host

Wow.

I'm even more excited to see, even though he's been on the show a couple of times and I interviewed him on PBS, I still

Terry Barr (co-host)

haven't seen the

Host

whole movie.

So I'm very excited and

We'll have to have Craig back on Kahn and see how the release goes, because he's such

Terry Barr (co-host)

a good guy.

Oh, yeah, that would be really fun.

Host

And now

Terry Barr (co-host)

he's

Host

ridiculously talented.

He's an influencer, a filmmaker, and a musician.

I don't even think I'm going to be able to perform sexually with my wife for the next six months.

Terry Barr (co-host)

Oh, gosh.

Host

Conrad

Terry Barr (co-host)

just

Host

buried his hand in it.

You know

Terry Barr (co-host)

what I'm

Host

saying?

There's people like that

Terry Barr (co-host)

that are just like,

Host

I'm blown away by how talented they are.

You know, I have

Terry Barr (co-host)

friends that- He sounded so surprised when I said his name in conjunction with this group that he's been part of since 99.

It's

Host

amazing.

It's amazing

Terry Barr (co-host)

and it's

Host

such a great song.

Terry Barr (co-host)

It makes you want to

Host

go check out the rest of it because I love the band Driftless Pony Club too.

That name is so great.

Terry Barr (co-host)

It's really good.

Yeah, if you go to their YouTube, their videos are ridiculous.

They do really funny behind the scenes at shows.

How do you do a show?

They're just, well, they're comedians basically.

Unidentified Speaker

Yeah.

Terry Barr (co-host)

Yeah.

Host

All right.

We got to get Craig back on the show.

I'll try to get him on next week.

Terry, so much fun as always.

Thank you.

Terry Barr (co-host)

You guys, too.

Thank you.

I'm

Host

going to be cranked.

This is my new workout song, too.

Terry Barr (co-host)

I love it.

So

Host

when I bench 40 pounds, I'll be, uh, I might

Terry Barr (co-host)

look ridiculous,

Host

ridiculous, but I'm going to be really pumped up

Terry Barr (co-host)

for it.

Go for it.

We'll be playing this again tomorrow night on max inc radio too.

Host

Oh, I was just going to ask you who you have coming up.

So that's is Craig.

Terry Barr (co-host)

That will be a reveal since, well, it's a reveal in Madison since you already got the reveal across the state.

Host

Thank you.

And sorry,

Terry Barr (co-host)

great author on tomorrow night though.

Also Susan Massino wrote about AC.

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She's a local author.

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It was a lot of fun tonight here on Nightlight, a good Friday edition.

Con, anything else?

Brewers are losing already.

Oh, come on, dude.

Your quiz was so great.

That was so much fun.

You cannot let the brewers get you done.

You cannot take this negative energy into the tournament, man.

That's right out of Big Lebowski.

All right, on behalf of the lovable for Easter Con, right on P-12, I say good night, Wisconsin.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Welcome back to Nightlight.

I'm Pete Schwabba, barreling through a Monday night here.

Terry from Cross Plains in the 608 says George Carlin has to be among the top five comedians ever.

Great text, Terry.

I wouldn't disagree with you.

And let's just see who Mike has on his list and I have on my list.

Conrad, did you put a little list together?

You're just gonna go with your overall one.

Yeah, no, I got some.

Mike, I have to tell you, before we start this, this cracked me up.

Conrad came into the studio before and he said, is Mike Toomey the guy that said I was trying to kill him?

And I said, no, he confused you with Bill Leff.

Because Conrad's first night producing the show, Bill said, Pete, I don't want to tell you this, but when I first came on, Conrad off the air said, I'm going to come to your house after this and kill you.

I mean, obviously he was kidding, but it was just- That sounds like Bill.

Yeah, sounds like Bill, exactly.

All right, so you've got a ton of experience in stand-up comedy.

I had some, we worked together quite a bit on the road, great times.

I used to, it's so funny, Mike, like you've been doing this so long, I meet other guys and stand up and they're like, oh yeah, after you left for LA, Mike was the guy, Mike brought me on the road with him.

And then like,

Mike Toomey (guest)

all

Pete Schwabba (host)

these people you mentored, you know, it was so much fun.

So it's great.

So all right, let's do this.

Let's start backwards from five.

And let's have you go first.

Mike Toomey (guest)

Okay.

And I don't even know if this means he's the...

Fifth favorite, but let's start with this guy.

His name is Mike McDonald and he was

Pete Schwabba (host)

out of

Mike Toomey (guest)

Canada and he's passed away.

But he was the guy that gave me my first real lesson in, you're not as good as you think you are.

I have been doing comedy about, I don't know, to five years.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Okay.

Mike Toomey (guest)

Okay.

Five or six, whatever.

And I went to work the funny firm, which was a brand new club.

And they said, you're working with Mike McDonald.

And I'm like, okay, great.

You know, he's from Canada, whatever.

And I was, you know, establishing myself and comedy was hot and I was doing well.

And then he went up and I went, okay, I'm not that good.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Yeah.

Mike Toomey (guest)

So far to go.

Pete Schwabba (host)

He was a great standup.

I never, you know, I never met him when I did stand up.

But our mutual friend, Len Ostrovich brought him to a screening of the Godfather of Green Bay in Burbank.

And

Len's son at the time, Miles, who has passed away, was a big fan of the film.

And Mike McDonald came up to me and goes, hey, great film.

And I'm like, I almost passed out.

I'm like, oh, you're Mike McDonald.

You know, he was there.

But a very funny comic.

And he used to do the bank, like when you walk all the ropes of the bank, like imitate.

Mike Toomey (guest)

You make the exasperated face.

But what he did that was so fantastic to me is,

He couldn't make one bit go forever.

Yeah, like at the time fatal attraction was just just out of movie theaters He did he talked about fatal attraction for almost as long as the movie itself And it was funny like he you know nobody was going when is this guy gonna stop talking about fatal attraction?

We're like it was hilarious, you know like at the end when close jumps out of the what is she Jason?

She wouldn't die

And I asked him about that, and he said, your bits are never finished.

He says, it's like watering your plants.

You just keep them growing.

If there's more you can say about it, say more about it.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Wow, that's fantastic.

I went to...

Richard Jenny, he had a memorial service at the Laugh Factory, and our mutual friend Greg Lien and I went to that.

And Rich Scheidner summed up Jenny kind of similar to what you're saying about Mike McDonald.

He said, when Rich was done with a premise, there was nothing left but bone.

It was like he was just eating this joke and creating it.

It was just such a great analogy.

And I totally agree.

Mike McDonald is like that too.

Mike Toomey (guest)

You could easily make room for Jenny on that list

Pete Schwabba (host)

too.

I've got five and then I've got an honorable mention.

So I'm gonna start with my five.

And I thought we should do this like not with our peers from Chicago because- No, that's what I had in mind when we brought it up.

Okay, all right, perfect.

Cause I know I'd be on your list, Mike.

Mike Toomey (guest)

Of course you would.

I'm getting to you.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Number five for me, I have a tie.

That's kind of a cheat.

And you might laugh at this.

Jay Leno and Ellen DeGeneres.

Okay.

Two people.

who to me- Don't

Mike Toomey (guest)

disagree with either of those.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Okay, good, because I think people only know her as the crazy talk show host.

She was an outstanding stand of comic.

As was Jay Leno, I didn't love him as a host or her, but they were both really excellent comedians.

Mike Toomey (guest)

Well, Ellen was clearly, clearly influenced by Bob Newhart, you know.

Yeah.

Her tempo and her laid back kind of style.

She even did a couple phone call bits that Newhart,

Pete Schwabba (host)

you

Mike Toomey (guest)

know.

SPEAKER_??

Right.

Mike Toomey (guest)

Immortalized but yeah, it's very very clearly influenced by him and of course he's one of the best ever

Pete Schwabba (host)

absolutely

Mike Toomey (guest)

Leno Leno could as another guy who could be on stage for an hour and a half and you'd never look at your watch You'd just be like wow right fast.

Yeah, just full of great material

Pete Schwabba (host)

now when he used to go on Letterman It was it was like must see TV you had to see him and he was so great Khan do you have five or do you want to just join us when you have?

Like you said you had one comic it was your favorite and that's fine

Conrad (producer)

Well, no, I put him at five because he's not known really.

Oh, okay.

He's like my favorite That is kind of underground.

I don't know.

He's not well-known, but he is no okay from

Pete Schwabba (host)

you to that word but

Conrad (producer)

he has a stand-up and I've gone to his shows three times and Every time there's it's fresh.

It's he never uses the same joke ever

Pete Schwabba (host)

and he's filthy

Conrad (producer)

No, well Miller

Pete Schwabba (host)

You know him, Mike?

I do not.

Where did

Conrad (producer)

you see him perform?

Improv in Milwaukee.

I saw him this place in Madison.

I can't remember what it's called.

It's a kind of a theater type place.

Mike Toomey (guest)

Yeah.

Conrad (producer)

Can't remember what it's called.

Every time you say it's

Mike Toomey (guest)

really funny because as long as we've been in this business, there's guys that keep coming and you don't know their names.

My kids go to see comedy shows at like Chicago Theater and big venues like that.

I don't know who they, who those guys are.

You know, I just, I'm so far removed from it.

Pete Schwabba (host)

All right.

I'll go, I'll go next.

Number four for me.

This one might surprise you, an underdog, but a guy, I watched a lot as a kid, like on shows, like Evening at the Improv.

Franklin Ajai.

Mike Toomey (guest)

Oh my gosh.

I forgot all about him.

Pete Schwabba (host)

He's

Mike Toomey (guest)

fantastic.

Just, just a thinking man's gray matter comedian and so funny.

Pete Schwabba (host)

He used to do a joke about.

Why do white guys box?

And your initial reaction is like, well, they're not good boxers.

But no, his punchline was like, he'd start bobbing and weaving and throwing punch and he's like, dang, man, I got to get out these suburbs.

But he always had such great jokes and he was so laid back.

Loved

Mike Toomey (guest)

him.

He really did.

He knew one that was hilarious that like he lived by himself.

He was a guy who lived by himself.

So he did a lot of jokes, typically doesn't really take care of the place.

And he had a date come over.

and she ran her finger across like one of the coffee tables or whatever.

And he goes, look at this.

Like she's got dust.

And then he looks down and he goes, now how am I going to fill that in?

Pete Schwabba (host)

Oh, that's funny.

Mike Toomey (guest)

Yeah, he was great.

Pete Schwabba (host)

All right.

You're number four, Mike.

Mike Toomey (guest)

What's the deal with Jerry Seinfeld?

Pete Schwabba (host)

Oh, yeah.

Mike Toomey (guest)

Nice.

It can't go wrong there.

Pete Schwabba (host)

It can't go wrong.

And I'm like,

He's not my top five.

I don't know how because he was probably my favorite comedian in the eighties.

But yeah, I don't know.

I guess I'm going overall here.

Can you get a number four?

Conrad (producer)

Yeah, I'd say

Pete Schwabba (host)

Kevin

Conrad (producer)

James.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Kevin James.

Conrad (producer)

Okay.

Yeah.

You work with him, Mike?

Mike Toomey (guest)

I have not.

I heard his stand-ups really good though.

Yeah.

Very likable.

He has a

Pete Schwabba (host)

new,

Mike Toomey (guest)

he's still out there.

Conrad (producer)

Yeah.

He has a new special on prime.

That was hilarious.

SPEAKER_??

Okay.

Pete Schwabba (host)

All right, Kevin James, number four for Conrad.

My guess is Mike Toomey.

His show is called Laugh Tracks, folks.

Check it out on WGN Plus.

Give it a Google and check.

There's so many great episodes.

Jeff Garland, Frank Kellyando.

I was on the episode last week that will be coming out soon, Mike, next day or

Mike Toomey (guest)

two.

It ran last Saturday.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Oh, OK.

Can I share now?

Mike Toomey (guest)

You can share

Pete Schwabba (host)

now,

Mike Toomey (guest)

yes.

You can look forward and reruns as well.

Pete Schwabba (host)

All right, fantastic.

Number three.

Conrad (producer)

Khan, you want to go first?

Go ahead.

Sure.

Yeah.

Uh, my third one, I think just from me growing up and I watched this guy all the time growing up was, uh, Jeff Dunham.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Jeff Dunham.

Jeff Dunham.

Okay.

And peanut

Conrad (producer)

or not peanut.

The jalapeno on a stick is my favorite.

Mike Toomey (guest)

What about the old guy?

Conrad (producer)

Walter.

Yeah.

Mike Toomey (guest)

Awesome.

Pete Schwabba (host)

All right, Mike, you're up.

Mike Toomey (guest)

Uh, number three is along the same lines as your Franklin, a giant choice.

This is a guy when I was a kid, like,

grade school, wanted to be a comedian.

And whenever I saw that this guy was going to be on something, whether it was like Don Kirschner's rock concert

Pete Schwabba (host)

or the midnight

Mike Toomey (guest)

special or the tonight show, whatever, it was David Brenner.

David

Pete Schwabba (host)

Brenner is great.

Mike Toomey (guest)

Yeah, he did the best observational stuff.

And then he transitioned into current events and even politics and things like that.

But he was even at an advanced age.

He never said how old he was, but

It

Pete Schwabba (host)

was

Mike Toomey (guest)

determined later that he was much older than people believed.

Always very relevant, very current in the observational stuff too.

Pete Schwabba (host)

He did a great joke about getting on a bus and I don't know, the jokes they used to play.

I think he grew up in Philadelphia and he said one of my friends's head was constantly tilted to the right.

His nickname was 10 after six.

He just had so many jokes like that.

And I got to meet him.

Before I was even ready to work the road, I started during the boom.

I got work before I was ready, but I went down to West Palm Beach, Florida and I opened for him.

And I went back to the condo between shows and I came back and Mr. Brenner would like to see you in his dressing room.

I'm like, oh no, what did I do?

He just wanted to talk.

He asked me what I wanted to do.

He was just eating dinner and he was like the nicest guy.

Mike Toomey (guest)

That's so great.

Pete Schwabba (host)

I loved it and I treasure that experience.

That's a great one, one I totally forgot about.

Mike Toomey (guest)

How long before he passed

Pete Schwabba (host)

was that?

Oh, that was 92 maybe.

So when did he die?

Like 2010?

Yeah,

Mike Toomey (guest)

I think so.

But what had happened with him was as time went on, his openers were doing less and less time in front of him because he didn't want to burn any topics.

And

Pete Schwabba (host)

it

Mike Toomey (guest)

seriously got to the point where I had worked with them.

They said, just go up.

and say, ladies and gentlemen, David Brecher.

Here's

Conrad (producer)

your thousand bucks.

Mike Toomey (guest)

Can I still put this up?

I rest them.

That I opened for him.

Pete Schwabba (host)

That's really interesting.

Yeah, I only did like 15 or 20 minutes, but he probably knew I was just starting out too.

Mike Toomey (guest)

But he'd do the whole 90 minutes himself.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Yeah, that's a great one.

Con, you got an, did you go number three?

Yeah.

Oh, you did.

Okay.

Jeff Domb.

My number three, Thon Rickles.

Yeah.

So I just, I don't think I have to say anything more.

Don Rickles.

Vintage.

Vintage.

Number two, I will go.

George Carlin, not a huge surprise there.

Mike Toomey (guest)

He was my, he's my number one cheat, but I'll give you number two for me in this.

I don't know if this even qualifies as a standup necessarily, but when I was a kid,

My parents had this comedy record of a guy named Stan Freeberg.

And what

Pete Schwabba (host)

he

Mike Toomey (guest)

did, he did funny songs.

He did funny sketches and did a lot of character voices.

And I fell in love with that.

And I swear to this day, it's because of that record that I got into comedy.

Even as a five year old kid, I would memorize the sketches on there and perform them for people who's a little kid.

Pete Schwabba (host)

You know, that's so great.

And my guy like that at a young age was Bill Cosby.

He would have been on my top three, but you can't use, you can't say that anymore.

Like he's such a creep.

I mean, a felon, not even a creep.

He's like... What's this now?

Con, you got a number two?

Yeah, I'm going to go with Chris Rock.

Chris Rock, great

Mike Toomey (guest)

choice.

Good choice.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Love him.

I told, was that here?

I did Mike Lucas's podcast last week too.

And I told the story of when I opened for Chris Rock and...

That's as profane as I've ever been telling the story of when I opened for Chris Rock because it was because of the heckle I received from a 14 year old kid and it was it was brutal.

I can't even say it.

It's just this is we're on the radio like I can't but I could say it on my spot 14 year old kid with his parents I'm like I would never I would have thought I was going to hell for what this kid said to me

but it was a learning experience.

Okay, Mike Toomey is here, folks.

You have a couple minutes to get in on our Diane Keaton question of the night.

What's your favorite Diane Keaton movie?

We're coming right back to wrap things up and give you our number one favorite stand-up comics of all time.

It's Peach Wabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio

Mike Toomey (guest)

Network.

Conrad (Producer)

Welcome back.

I'm

Pete Schwabba (Host)

Pete Chihuahua.

This is Nightlight in the home stretch here, folks.

Terry from Cross Plains in the 608 says, oh my God, actually it's OMG.

I started to text David Brenner, but changed to Carlin.

I saw him at Summerfest and he was hysterical.

Mike, he was hysterical.

George

Mike Toomey (Guest)

Carlin in an outdoor venue.

You got him on a night when he was hysterical.

He was hilarious.

Pete Schwabba (Host)

Outstanding.

Love, George Carlin.

All right, we are down to our final favorite comedians.

Conn, let's have you go first.

Favorite all-time stand-up comic.

Gabriel Iglesias.

Oh, fluffy.

God, I just got a pain in my stomach.

Mike Toomey (Guest)

You

Pete Schwabba (Host)

don't like him?

Same pain.

Same pain.

Okay, so, all right, here's why I don't like him.

I had to follow him.

I had just moved to LA, it was like, the year was like 1998, year of our Lord.

And Mary came with me, it was a show on a yacht.

And I was closing, my buddy at Comedy Central booked it and Gabriel Iglesias was opening.

Nobody knew who he was yet.

He's this high energy, he came out and people couldn't even catch their breath for 20 minutes.

Conrad (Producer)

I'm just like

Pete Schwabba (Host)

going.

Do I just jump in the ocean now and end it or do I actually go up?

And man, I chewed it.

It was horrible.

It was a bad set.

It was like, I got like Snickers and a couple, but he was, he crushed.

Mike Toomey (Guest)

Yeah.

You have personal reasons.

So it's not that horrible, but you're saying it.

You're not saying you think he's terrible.

You're saying- I don't

Pete Schwabba (Host)

even, no, but I don't know.

I'm not saying he's terrible.

He's probably hysterically funny, but I don't, when he comes on, I just, it's such a bad memory.

I

Mike Toomey (Guest)

just scrolled.

All right, like number one believe I knew that story the aforementioned carlin because again The the record the class clown record my brother had that I used to have to Put the headphones on and hide in my room to make sure Nobody heard me listening to it because it contained the seven words you can't use on television But what I fell in love with about him was his mastery of the language like every word counted

You know what I mean?

Right.

And through the years, he just kept going.

Like we said about Brenner before, Carlin changed with the times.

You know, he was an observational guy and then he became a political, you know, social commentator more than anything else and did it so well.

They push an 80, you know?

Pete Schwabba (Host)

Yeah, you're right.

And I always say like, I think it's hard for standups to be funny after like 50 or 60, but.

Some of them are, and they remain relevant somehow, and he was totally that guy.

And even though I wouldn't say he was as funny as when he was in his 30s and 40s at his peak, but he was still one of the best comics, if not the best, even when he was older.

Mike Toomey (Guest)

This is the best.

This is my favorite Carlin story.

This was like 1997, spring, Aspen Comedy Festival.

He's there.

because they're honoring

Conrad (Producer)

him

Mike Toomey (Guest)

40 years of comedy and 60 years old and this was this is 97 and there was a guy there who was a comedian he didn't get selected for the festival but he was there and he bought one of those all-access passes so he could go to all the shows and meet and he did I would when I tell you what he did it will just make you cringe we're sitting there eating lunch with this guy and he goes hey I saw carlin on the street and I'm like oh no

And he goes, so I went up to him.

Oh, stop.

He goes, hey, George, I'm working on a bit.

Pete Schwabba (Host)

Oh, no.

Mike Toomey (Guest)

Like walking on the street, he was going to run one of his bits by him.

And the way he described it is the only way you know, Carlin.

Was it rude to him, but he wasn't going to indulge him either.

So George didn't break stride.

He just kept walking.

Conrad (Producer)

That's it.

You always got to be working on your material, working on your bits, writing material.

That's a good thing to do.

That's the way to go.

Nice to meet you.

SPEAKER_??

Kept walking.

Conrad (Producer)

Isn't that fantastic?

Kind of a classy response in a weird way.

Yeah.

Always got to be working on your bits, creating all that stuff.

Pete Schwabba (Host)

That is excellent.

I love the joke he used to do about.

you know, the kids are so stupid nowadays, you know, and here, you know, if you have a stupid kid, here's what you do.

You take your kid, you put him on a busy street corner, you go back two weeks later.

If he's still there, you got yourself a stupid effing kid.

All right, my number one is more of a contemporary guy, Brian Regan.

Mike Toomey (Guest)

Oh, I should have put Brian on my list.

He's so great.

Yeah,

Pete Schwabba (Host)

absolutely.

And you could argue,

like who's edgy and who's not whatever Brian is just pure joy to watch.

He's just funny.

His act is funny.

His the way he acts it out is funny.

I love him.

He's great.

Mike Toomey (Guest)

Brian's physicality alone is funny.

Right.

But his material is like my test is if you can transcribe a guy's act and read it off a page and it's still funny.

That's funny.

You can do that with him.

And then he has that that's such

that strong character that he sells it with, it's like, he's the total package.

Double threat.

Pete Schwabba (Host)

Yeah, he's great.

And when people do speak up from the audience, not necessarily Hackal or whatever, he's fast on his feet too.

You're right, he's the whole package.

It's just so great.

Here are some of my, we only have about a minute left.

My honorable mentions, Bill Hicks, Mary Mac Conrad from Wisconsin,

Conrad (Producer)

love her.

Oh

Pete Schwabba (Host)

yeah.

Albert Brooks, Gary Shanling, Dave Attelle, Steve Martin.

and Richard Jenny and Seinfeld.

All good.

All good eggs.

And of course, Mike, to me.

Conrad (Producer)

You would have been in my top five if

Pete Schwabba (Host)

we're not for that stipulation.

Mike, this was so much fun.

Thank you for having me on Laugh Tracks, folks.

Check out Laugh Tracks WGN Plus.

If you're listening in the Chicago area, you probably already know this, but Mike is on the WGN Morning Show.

It is a great job there.

Hey, real quick, Mike, are you doing your Christmas show this year?

Mike Toomey (Guest)

I have one of them booked at Zany's and Rosemont on December 13th, that's a Saturday.

Pete Schwabba (Host)

But not

Mike Toomey (Guest)

in

Pete Schwabba (Host)

Kenosha?

Mike Toomey (Guest)

No, we stopped doing our Wisconsin shows, at least for this year.

So we'll see, you know, never say never, it might pick that back up again.

But December 13th, go to Zany's.com and click on the Rosemont tab.

Pete Schwabba (Host)

Outstanding.

Always fun, buddy.

Thanks again for asking

Mike Toomey (Guest)

me to be on your show.

Thank you, of course.

Thanks for doing

Pete Schwabba (Host)

it.

Thanks for coming on.

It's good talking comedy with one of the best.

Mike Toomey, ladies and gentlemen.

Thank you, sir.

Appreciate

Mike Toomey (Guest)

you, Mike.

Thank you for having

Pete Schwabba (Host)

me.

All right.

Tomorrow night, I didn't even read.

Tomorrow night's guest, Ben Reiser from UW Cinematheque and the host of the Lifers podcast will be here.

We'll talk movies with Ben.

He's always fun.

And one of the comedy sports directors and big shots, Mike Couth will be here.

That'll be fun as well.

Go Brewers, good luck everybody and thank you for all your texts.

Thank you to Jamie McShane.

Check out TASK on HBO.

He's great in it and thank you to Mike Toomey.

And on behalf of the lovable producer Conrad, I'm Pete Schwabba saying goodnight

Conrad (Producer)

Wisconsin.

Pete Schwab

Welcome back.

Great to have you with me tonight.

I am Pete Schwab, and this is Nightlight coming up at 7.20.

Some comedy talk with my pal Mike Toomey.

We're going to break down our top five favorite comics of all time.

Our question of the night is in honor of Diane Keaton's passing over the weekend.

What is your favorite Diane Keaton movie?

Right now, it is my pleasure to welcome to the show a good friend of mine who also just happens to be a fantastic actor and he is one of the stars of TASC on HBO, Mr. Jamie McShane.

Jamie McShane

Hey, buddy.

Hey, Pete, thanks for having me back.

I

Pete Schwab

appreciate it.

I'm just impressed that you want to come back after the last, the way the last two things went.

So.

Jamie McShane

Well, I didn't say I wanted to come back.

I just assumed you were

Pete Schwab

being back.

It helps to have a little dirt on you.

I'm not going to lie.

It's good to see you, buddy.

How are you tonight?

Jamie McShane

I'm good.

I'm glad to be here.

Thanks very much.

How are you?

Pete Schwab

I'm doing great and I'm doing very well.

I get to talk about things I love to talk about every night and have pals like you on the show.

So it is great to have you here.

Do you have, before we get into task, do you have a favorite Diane Keaton movie?

Jamie McShane

Yeah, Heather and I were talking about it, Mrs. Soful.

Pete Schwab

Oh, I didn't see that.

Jamie McShane

That was with Mel Gibson.

It was based on a true story that

She helps these two brothers escape from a prison.

It was a beautiful film I don't I have to watch it again because it'd been a while But I remember really loving it.

Pete Schwab

Oh, that's great.

Jamie McShane

Did you see any hall?

Yeah a long time ago.

Pete Schwab

Yeah.

Jamie McShane

Yeah, I mean that was such an iconic role for her.

Pete Schwab

Yeah, she's great So let's jump right in I want to say the last time you were here

or maybe it was two times ago, you were talking about this show you did and you said it's the best show you've ever been a part of, which got me excited, A, to talk to you about it, but B, also to watch the show.

I've been watching TASC and I just, it's so great.

Like the first episode was great, but it builds every week and it just gets, it's getting so intense and there's one episode left, but...

How is it watching it like when you said it was the best thing you've ever been a part of and now you're getting to watch it Did that hold up?

Oh, yeah.

Jamie McShane

Yeah.

Yeah, maybe I think I'd say even more so You know cuz you you read it you film it and then you forget things and then there's you know, there's scenes That I read but I wasn't a part of and you get to watch that and I think you know everyone on the show is so good unfortunate to be in it and Tom Pelfrey who plays Robbie is just

He's just mesmerizing in the show, you know?

Pete Schwab

He's really good.

Where is he from, James?

Jamie McShane

Jersey boy.

He's a Jersey boy.

Okay.

Yeah.

He, um, he started actually in soaps years and years and years ago.

And then I worked with him on Mank.

He played, uh, he played Mank's brother and Joseph Mankiewicz, you know, Gary Oldman's brother.

And then he had a big run on, um, Ozarks.

Right.

So.

Yeah, he's a great guy, wonderful actor.

Pete Schwab

He, uh, it's so great because, you know, I remember going to Pennsylvania years and years ago when I did stand up and I love that Pennsylvania accent and he nailed it.

I thought, man, and he, you know, with the ponytail he's got, I didn't recognize him.

And I'm like, this is just a guy they pulled out of a shot in a beer bar and

Jamie McShane

you know

Pete Schwab

what I mean?

Like he's that much.

And he's like, uh, you going down to the park, like that, that Pennsylvania accent.

Yeah, he's great.

Uh, obviously Mark Ruffalo.

We claim him as one of our own because he was born in Wisconsin.

I think he left when he was six months old, but it doesn't matter, Jamie.

He's a Wisconsinite.

Jamie McShane

I'll tell him

Pete Schwab

that.

Martha Plimpton.

And yeah, so you got a great cast.

Talk about that scene last night.

You play Perry, the head of the Dark

Jamie McShane

Arts

Pete Schwab

Motorcycle Club.

And you're a pretty bad guy.

That's gotta be so fun, but the fight last night that aired between you and Ruffalo in the cabin, how fun was that to shoot?

Jamie McShane

It was fun.

We rehearsed it and they really weighed into, you know, Mark's a really good wrestler.

He did wrestling, you know, in school when he was young and then he did that movie, Foxcatcher.

Okay.

He played the wrestling coach.

It was a true story about DuPont, I think.

What's his name from the office?

Steve Carell was in it.

Oh

Pete Schwab

yeah.

Oh

Jamie McShane

yeah.

Great movie.

Mark was amazing.

So the stunt guy, Justin Reimer, he knew that Mark could wrestle.

And it works for his character to bring in some of that, whereas I'm just a straight out brawler.

And then we were rehearsing on what to do and this and that.

At one point, Mark is choking me out.

And I said to Mark and Justin, I said, can I bite him?

And Mark's like, yeah.

And Justin's like, yeah.

And the director's like, yeah.

So I bite him and that just sets him off.

And Mark got hurt in that scene.

On one take early on, they moved some of the, I don't know, some bookshelf or something that wasn't there, that was there that I throw him into.

And then when I threw him this second time, he expected to brace into the bookshelf or whatever it was.

I don't remember.

And it wasn't there.

So he went further back and he nailed his head.

Pete Schwab

Oh man.

Jamie McShane

And he cut it open.

I think he had to get stitches.

I think he wound up having a contusion, but he went through the whole thing.

It was great.

Pete Schwab

It's very similar to Mer from Easttown.

Jamie McShane

Mer of Easttown.

Mer of

Pete Schwab

Easttown.

It's very realistic.

Like I love that, you know,

You know Ruffalo leads this task force Tom and he's just a regular guy though He's not a superhero like he kind of gets his ass kicked a couple times in the show and then with you finally I'm like alright finally he looks like a guy who can defend himself at least because you guys had this really great head-to-head but I Understand he ate a lot of Philly cheesesteaks to put on a few pounds like he looks like a real guy and this is the same guy that played a Detective Fanning and collateral where he was kind of a badass like

Does it elevate your game when you act opposite a guy like that, just like I'm sure you elevate his game?

Jamie McShane

Well, thank you.

I don't know about that.

But yeah, definitely.

I mean, but everyone on the show, Sam Keely, who plays Jason, you know, my kind of underling,

Pete Schwab

yeah,

Jamie McShane

he was fantastic to work with.

I mean, it was just it was just an amazing thing to be a part of.

But yes, it does elevate your game when you when you get to work with people that are that good and you know they're that good.

Like, you know, you know them ahead of time.

Pete Schwab

Yeah.

Jamie McShane

Of them.

Pete Schwab

Sure.

My guest is Jamie McShane.

He is one of the stars of the hit HBO show, Task.

And he's got many other great credits.

Check out his work.

If you go to IMDb folks, you can lose yourself in Jamie's resume.

It's been part of a lot of great projects.

What I always find it interesting when someone like you who's worked so hard and

You didn't start acting till you were an adult, and then you're opposite someone like Martha Plimpton, who was kind of a younger actor.

She was like a child actor.

I think she was in the Goonies.

Is that kind of surreal when you get to the set and you're like, oh my gosh, that's someone I watched when I was going to the cinema when I was 14, you know?

Jamie McShane

Yeah, it is, especially even... Yeah, it is.

And when I worked with Gary Oldman years ago, that was kind of that too, where you're like, oh my god, this is someone I've looked up to and...

You're like, holy mackerel, I get to be on screen with them, you know?

Yeah.

And Martha's great.

She's a hoot.

And she was wonderful in this, in task.

I think it's one of the best things I've seen her do.

Pete Schwab

Yeah, she's really good.

And the writing is so good.

Like there's so many misdirects where you think you got it figured out and then they keep you guessing.

And I like that it breathes a little bit.

It's not wall-to-wall action and it's not boring.

It's like the

Perfect and just mayor was like that too.

It's like the perfect combination.

It's just great storytelling.

So for you as an actor What was it about Perry that like just made you go I got to play this role?

Jamie McShane

Ironically, I helped a friend of mine audition for the the role of Jason the week before and He said, you know, you'd be great for this Perry role and I thought I I don't know.

We'll see, you know, see if it

Anything happens then a week later.

I had the audition so I went back to my friend and he auditioned me We just kind of turn the camera the other way and I felt At first I didn't think I was big enough to play this big, you know motorcycle dude, and then I thought well Gary Oldman would nail this and Willem Dafoe would nail it and they're you know, they're not Wilms is much smaller dude But I've worked with both of them not that I'm at that level, but I'm like what would they do that?

and they would just sell it.

So for me, I thought Perry's a little, he's a little crazy and he moves kinda funny and it really helped me develop the character.

And then Sam Keely, who plays Jason, one day I expressed to him, I don't know if I'm big enough before we're shooting, he goes, no, Jamie McShane.

He goes, I am a sledgehammer.

I come in, I bust everything down.

You are a blade.

He goes,

You talk to someone else and they look down the bellies cut open in the dying.

I thought that was pretty fun

Pete Schwab

Well,

Jamie McShane

and there's a rolled with that

Pete Schwab

and without doing a spoiler Yeah, no, you just got to check out the show.

He's is he Irish?

Jamie McShane

Yeah.

Yeah, he's from Tulumor where Tulumor do the whiskey's buddy.

We've shared a few

Pete Schwab

bottle of that Yeah

That's great.

He is excellent too.

I think this is the first thing I've seen him in, but do you like, Jamie, you've played all kinds of roles, but playing a role like Perry, what's that like?

I mean, is it, I feel like a fanboy here, but that must have been, so it must be great to play where you get to be this total badass and maybe bring out your own badassery in doing so.

Jamie McShane

Yeah, you know, Brad Inglesby who wrote both Mayor and Task.

Every character he writes is so layered.

They're so rich and within such a limited time, you know, it's like he creates these characters like from novels and you learn about them quickly, all of them.

So to get to play one of his characters is amazing because they're so well written.

And then for me, Perry especially was just like, it just fit, you know, and I had so much fun playing it and it was great.

Pete Schwab

You definitely have that side to you.

Just with our kids at the park, you scared me a

Jamie McShane

few

Pete Schwab

times.

All right, again, here's my last fanboy question.

And you are my friend, but has there been any talk from the show or your reps or anything about possible Emmy nominations?

I mean, it's such a hit show.

You've got such a high profile on the show.

Jamie McShane

For the show itself to me?

Pete Schwab

Well, or for your role as like a supporting actor.

Jamie McShane

You know, there's always hope.

there has been you know the the idea has been thrown around I don't know what that means exactly it's also you know the Emmys aren't for another year at this point but hopefully there's some award shows earlier on like Critic's Choice and the Screen Actors Guild Awards and The Globes that you know I think the show Tom Pelfrey Ruffalo will definitely get some some looks and some of the other actors and actresses and hopefully I end up in that boat.

Pete Schwab

Yeah, it's got to be tough when you have such a great ensemble, you know what I mean?

Like you're you're just surrounded by great talent But that's that's excited.

Okay.

So without no spoilers the finale is this weekend, correct?

Oh, did we lose Jamie?

Oh There he is.

Do we have you back buddy?

Jamie McShane

There we go.

Pete Schwab

Yeah, cool.

So the season finale is this weekend no spoilers or anything but

What can you can you like give us a hint of what's to come or as you probably can't say anything?

Jamie McShane

I'm

Pete Schwab

trying to get people to the damn show Jamie to sit in

Jamie McShane

front of watch the show and

It is a great, it's just, it's a great show.

It's the greatest thing I've ever gotten to work on and Bloodline was pretty amazing for me and this is the first one to surpass it.

It's just, it's an incredible show.

So please tune in.

Pete Schwab

And absolutely folks, check out all six episodes.

You have time before next weekend.

And I would say episode five, was that your favorite to shoot so far without saying what happens exactly?

You take a pretty dark

Jamie McShane

turn there.

Four, I think four.

Was it four?

Okay.

Four, I had a lot, a lot of.

fun scenes and kind of revelations and It was it was a very layered very very packed episode for Perry.

Yeah five was amazing also

Pete Schwab

All right, so, but start with one, folks.

The whole show is great, top to bottom.

We're going to do a very short break.

We'll come back.

We'll have a few more minutes with our pal, Jamie McShane.

I want to ask you about 1923, too, because I really enjoyed you in that, too, and another great show.

But we'll be right back with one of the stars of the hit show task, Jamie McShane.

On Nightlight with Pete Schwabble, we're coming right back.

Pete Schwab (host)

I'm Pete Schwab, and this is Nightlight.

Great to have you with me.

Dave on the stream says, Baby Boom.

It's a great fantasy.

That's one of my wife's favorite Diane Keaton movies, too, Dave.

That's a good one.

And PJ says, the Godfather movies.

Jamie, as an actor, I'm sure you'll appreciate this.

I said this about Diane Keaton before.

I loved her in Annie Hall, but she's one of those actors that always played herself a little bit or some derivation of that.

But in the Godfather movie, she was so different and just sort of docile.

And I thought it really showed her range kind of because it was such a different role.

I don't know if you agree with that or not.

Jamie McShane (guest)

But yeah, I think she was so new too.

I don't know what she had done before that.

And she was so kind of not plain, but very, I guess docile is the right word, just very sweet without much of an edge or, you know,

not a spark, but she's just kind of calmer.

Pete Schwab (host)

Yeah.

Yeah.

It just, to me, it was like, you saw a different side of her.

She kind of became iconic playing that kind of, not neurotic, but just how her persona was.

And it was very funny and entertaining, but she obviously was just a very good actor too.

So all right, I kind of...

There's an old saying in show business, never open with a showstopper.

And I kind of did that by talking about task first and now I'm going to 1923.

But you were very good in that too.

Your role wasn't as big, but yet another bad guy.

Yeah, he was horrible.

He was a bad dude.

But what was it like?

That was for Taylor Sheridan.

You were out shooting riding horses.

What a fun role that must have been too.

Jamie McShane (guest)

Yeah, it was a blast.

I got to do a couple of episodes in season one.

And then he wrote a lot more for me in season two.

And when you work for Taylor on the Westerns, they fly you out like a week or so, 10 days earlier, and they train you at cowboy camp.

Like they make sure you learn to ride as best you can.

And they give you like brand new pair of boots to ride in and a hat and they suit you up.

And it's a blast.

It means just a blast.

You wind up riding every day, usually with a bunch of other guys.

or girls, and it's like being a kid and getting paid for it.

Pete Schwab (host)

Is it like the scene in Blazing Saddles where they're sitting around the fire eating beans?

Is it any, is it similar to

Jamie McShane (guest)

that?

Yeah, it was mostly like that.

Yeah, it was mostly like that.

But from the saddle itself, not sitting around, we were actually on the saddle, and it was usually when you were trotting.

Pete Schwab (host)

Very well

Jamie McShane (guest)

said.

Pete Schwab (host)

Very tactful, that was great.

Who are some of your favorite actors to watch?

Like, you know, I know you had influences.

Last time you were here, we talked about Gene Hackman and how much we both love Gene Hackman.

And you passed away, ironically, just a few days later.

But do you have people right now that you just like, when you're flipping around the dial, it's like, you can't turn that off because you're such a huge fan.

Jamie McShane (guest)

Gary Oldman.

I mean, it's just top notch on that.

Sam Rockwell, I find very interesting, you know.

Have you worked with him?

No, no, I never have gotten to.

Yeah, he's an

Pete Schwab (host)

interesting guy.

Jamie McShane (guest)

Yeah, yeah.

But

Pete Schwab (host)

Gary Oldman is, do you watch Slow Horses?

Oh yeah, I

Jamie McShane (guest)

love

Pete Schwab (host)

it.

Love that show.

Yeah.

He's so great.

And I, you know, he's one of those guys who's such a serious actor that I expect him to be so serious or sort of dark when he's in interviews, but he's so funny and he's so much fun.

Like the guy has a great sense of humor, you know.

Jamie McShane (guest)

He is, and in person, he's wonderful.

Is he?

Yeah.

Oh, God, he's fun.

He's funny.

He's fun.

He's so approachable.

He's just, he's great.

I love working with him.

Pete Schwab (host)

What about actresses?

Is there someone out there you'd love to work with that you haven't yet or someone you've already worked with that you just think the world of?

Jamie McShane (guest)

I worked with Holly Hunter a little bit.

I thought the world of her.

Viola Davis, sorry.

Viola Davis was wonderful.

I got to work with her.

Yeah, I mean, I think the list is too long to say who I would love to work with, but there's a lot of them.

Pete Schwab (host)

What about a role?

What about a role, like you're so good at doing the bad guy game, but like, you know, is there a role that you wanna, would you like to play the hero or the savior somehow or like a cop or a someone who's going through a trans issue, like some crazy role that, you know, really pushes you?

Is there some role out there like that that's evaded you?

or that you've probably,

Jamie McShane (guest)

I'm waiting for you to write it.

I would love to.

I would love to, yeah, I'd love to play all those things.

Cops, I've played a lot of cops, you know, different dirty cop or clean cop.

I played on Southland.

One of the few shows in a while where I played a really good guy, you know, and that was a blast on that show.

I loved it.

Another great show.

Pete Schwab (host)

You know, I can't remember who we had on.

It might've been Glenn Morshauer who said, or someone that said the Southland was the most authentic cop show they had ever

Jamie McShane (guest)

seen.

I still haven't even seen it, so I

Pete Schwab (host)

gotta

Jamie McShane (guest)

check it out.

Oh, it's great.

Pete Schwab (host)

Well, thanks again, buddy.

Before I let you go, I gotta ask you, are you binge watching anything that doesn't have Jamie McShane in it,

Jamie McShane (guest)

or something that does?

What could you

Pete Schwab (host)

recommend?

Jamie McShane (guest)

We started the Ed Gaines thing with Charlie Hunnam.

Pete Schwab (host)

Oh, yeah.

Jamie McShane (guest)

So we've been watching that and then I think that's the last the latest one because I was I was back in Jersey for a while For some family stuff and my mother has very limited television.

So Heather waits for me to get back to binge stuff together

Pete Schwab (host)

She doesn't Netflix cheat.

That's a big thing like it's hard

Jamie McShane (guest)

to

Pete Schwab (host)

wait for your partner to actually watch the show

Jamie McShane (guest)

Don't watch stuff.

I she knows I don't want to watch.

Pete Schwab (host)

All right, that's

Jamie McShane (guest)

fair enough

Pete Schwab (host)

You worked with him too on sons of anarchy, which must have been cool

With Charlie.

Jamie McShane (guest)

Oh, yeah.

He's a sweetheart.

He's great.

He's a wonderful guy, very, very gentle person, despite the badass he plays and very kind, very kind.

Pete Schwab (host)

Well, dude, you keep somehow ending up in these shows surrounded by great actors.

And I think a lot of that you could attribute to yourself as well.

You're in these great circles and likeness attracts.

So keep up the great work.

We're watching and everything you do, I just love.

Jamie McShane (guest)

Pete, I really appreciate it.

Thanks for having me back, and I do love coming on your show here.

Thank you, buddy.

Pete Schwab (host)

Despite

Jamie McShane (guest)

not

Pete Schwab (host)

liking me personally, I appreciate

Jamie McShane (guest)

you coming on the show.

You know, that has nothing to do with it.

The show is wonderful.

Okay.

I mean, I'm so surprised you're actually the host.

Pete Schwab (host)

Hey, don't sit, Conrad, cut that out of the podcast,

Jamie McShane (guest)

people.

I

Pete Schwab (host)

love you.

You're a dear friend.

Jamie McShane (guest)

You

Pete Schwab (host)

too.

Love you too, buddy.

Jamie McShane (guest)

Talk to you

Pete Schwab (host)

soon.

Jamie McShane, ladies and gentlemen.

Check out TASK.

It is really a good show.

And if you liked Mare of Easttown, you'll love this.

This surpassed Mare of Easttown, and I love that, but TASK just keeps getting better every week.

Check it out, folks.

We are coming right back for Act 2.

After the news, it's Pete Schwabba in Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

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