Matt Damon and Popcorn Picks(Hour 1)

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Matt Damon and Popcorn Picks(Hour 1)

Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Thu Oct 9, 2025

Kathryn Lake

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Pete Schwaba

Welcome to Night Light, ladies and gentlemen.

Happy Thursday, everybody.

It is the Christmas Eve of weekdays, and we are all here together to celebrate such a beautiful night where we talk about outstanding things in life that bring beauty to our world.

Movies, TV, comedy, music, you name it.

We've got some...

Well, sports talk is tomorrow, Conrad.

I almost said sports, but we'll probably touch on the Cubs and Brewers a little bit.

It starts after the show.

It's all right.

We can give our little predictions, I think.

First.

Big surprise there.

We're covering it all tonight, folks, and it's great to have you here wherever you're joining us from over this beautiful state of Wisconsin on this gorgeous fall night.

Welcome to Nightlight.

Fun show tonight.

We've got it's Thursday, so that means we're doing the popcorn pick of the week.

If for some reason you've never heard of the popcorn pick of the week or heard that segment, we give you a movie pick that you can check out by way of our guests.

And tonight, the guest during our popcorn pick of the week is Matt Miller.

He will make a, and this is cool too because Matt is a film critic from Milwaukee and he will give us a movie that we can check out possibly one we haven't seen or possibly one we want to revisit if we've already seen it.

But I'm excited to have Matt do this.

I've been trying to schedule him in.

So he could give us a pick because he's always fun to talk movies about with anyway He's also going to talk about some of the things you can see right now in the cinema as I like to call it We'll discuss a movie I saw recently.

I'm anxious to get Matt's thoughts on one battle after another which This film is like I was reading Variety yesterday They think one battle after another might draw 14 Oscar nominations

And that would tie a record with La La Land all about Eve and Titanic maybe.

That would tie a record.

And they think maybe there will be six actors from the film nominated in the four acting categories.

That's never happened before.

So very good film, anxious to get Matt's thoughts on it.

And he's seen some stuff I haven't as always.

So we'll talk to Matt about that and what's coming up at the theater in the near future.

And then Rob.

Momarts.

Yeah.

Pete Schwaba

That's his name.

Rob Momarts.

Momarts.

I said it right.

Yeah.

Pete Schwaba

Momarts.

Momarts.

That's Rob Momarts.

He is a brilliant illustrator.

He will be here at 720 tonight.

So excited to have Rob in the studio and talk to him about his process and some of the great things he's done.

He draws all kinds of stuff, but his illustrations for children's books.

All right, just gorgeous.

And we'll share some of those with you when he's here, but Rob will be here at 7.20 tonight in studio.

I see a nightlight window fun picture happening with Rob at some point.

Yeah.

Maybe we'll give him a book to read that's not a children's book.

What book?

Pete Schwaba

He can read it through the window.

I don't know, do we have like a, he's a, we gotta keep it clean anyway.

I mean, he's a children's book.

We can't do, I can't let my mind.

Go somewhere anyway two great guests tonight.

We got a fun question tonight in honor of someone's birthday a lot of cool things have dropped today We will rock you came out on this day.

I think in 1977 so you might hear a little bit of Queen at some point during the show It's John Mellencamp's birthday.

He's a good one John Mellencamp is like the forgotten Americana roots rock guy and

I don't mean he hasn't gotten his props in his career, but you will always hear about Springsteen to a lesser degree, Bob Seeger, Tom Petty.

And John Mellencamp was huge for like two or three decades.

But you just haven't heard a lot about him in the last, I would say, 15 years or so.

But he turns like 74 today.

He's up there with Springsteen in age.

And John Mellencamp, going back to when he was John Cougar,

Just has an outstanding music catalog.

So you'll probably hear a little a little cougar tonight or melon camp Throughout the show.

So we've got lots to talk about and it is Thursday.

I I Forgot to shower today Conrad That's why you smell no, I I smell like like Sidney Sweeney's bathwater buddy, and you know it

Um, no, here's what happened.

I got up today.

I woke up at like five.

I couldn't get back to sleep to like seven.

And then I slept to like 10, 20.

And I had to be a guest on my friend, Mike Lucas, who was on this show last week.

He has a podcast.

He asked me to be on the podcast.

I said, of course.

So I was on his podcast today at noon while I'm scrambling to get ready for the show.

And I thought, I'm not going to shower.

I'll just throw some water in my hair.

There's not.

They don't have smell a vision over stream yard.

So I figured I was fine.

Right.

So as the day went on, I just realized like I felt showered and then I'm like, Oh my God, I didn't shower.

So don't tell Rob when he's here in studio.

What if he's listening right now?

No, just keep it on the QT.

Rob seems like a stand up guy.

Like I'm sure I'm sure he showered.

I would imagine Rob seems like a pretty clean cut guy.

I wouldn't.

I wouldn't make those judgments.

I'll let you know when I meet him.

But we'll discuss his cleanliness and the sense he's giving off while he is in the studio.

And he can draw his way out of it.

He's that good.

And it's a weird feeling.

Do you ever go days where you don't shower when you have to work?

I mean, sometimes you have to.

But if I don't shower during the day, I'm showering before I go to bed.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah.

I think if you shower before you go to bed, you're better off because...

You're clean longer.

You don't really sweat when you sleep.

So your skin

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is

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kind of cleansed for a long period of time.

When you shower in the morning, I start sweating within 30 minutes.

So I just took a casual walk along the river here and my back is soaking wet.

So let's see if we can draw a prettier picture.

I shower pretty much every day after I work out because...

Well, I don't want anyone to smell me after I work out.

Pete Schwaba

I saw this thing on the Daily Show recently.

There's an Asian host who fills in.

I don't know his name, but he's very funny.

You know that guy?

Uh-uh.

And he talked about, you know, the showering process and how Asian people wash their feet.

Like, they lift their foot up, scrub it with soap, insinuated that Americans don't do that.

That we just let the water run over our feet and we consider that washed.

Do you do that?

No, I wash my feet.

I wash in between my toes.

Like that's an odor area.

That's a main odor area.

Yeah, I do that too, because I mean, just my feet are not the greatest smelling when I go throughout the day.

Pete Schwaba

Right.

I make sure they're washed.

Well, I thought it was funny because he didn't even like, I do remember friends of mine, like when I was in college saying, no, they don't wash your feet.

They do that.

So that took me back to that time, but I think it's funny that he knows this about white Americans.

Like, how does he know that?

He must have friends that say, no, I don't.

Oh, yeah.

He went to the focus group.

I guess.

But it is weird.

I do feel like it was too late to shower when I realized I hadn't showered when I was on my way to Green Bay.

So I'm like, well, I could either pull over to truck stop and take a shower.

There you

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go.

I'm not going to do that, though.

You ever showered at a truck stop?

No.

I'm sure it's kind of like the locker room a little bit.

You think they have their own stalls?

You know, sometimes I don't like the locker room because it just has a small curtain and you can easily see through it and it's kind of weird.

But there's one, there's a Y actually in town that has like full doors.

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And

that's the best thing ever.

It's

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like a little apartment.

Exactly.

And you can like stretch out take your time.

You don't feel like you're being watched That's how I feel because like when I and we've talked about this before when I was in high school It was just a big open.

It was like the Wild West of showering and there's like Insanity going on.

So I would think at a truck stop You know, those guys are in their trucks all the time They would want a little a nice a nice place to shower.

I think

yeah, you know when you're in high school And you had those showers did you have to shower?

What

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did it

affect your grade if you didn't?

Pete Schwaba

Oh, you know what?

I vaguely kind of remember that, but I don't know that we were forced to shower.

I don't think so.

There was one grade where that did happen to me.

Pete Schwaba

Really?

Yeah.

How are they grading your shower?

Are they expecting you?

They're like, if you don't come out of the locker, I'm looking a little wet.

They're going to dock you for the day.

That's kind of weird.

I think that was like 7th or 8th grade.

I can't remember, but after that I've never showered in one of those locker rooms again.

Because like you, mine was like that as well.

Pete Schwaba

Oh really?

Yeah.

Here's a weird thing.

I had a friend in Chicago when I lived there years and years ago who went to one of the Catholic high schools.

They not only had to shower, they had to line up naked by the pool.

This is what he told me.

I can't confirm or deny, but he's not the kind of guy that would make that up and it was sort of like a cleanliness hygiene thing.

Isn't it?

That's absurd.

I'm like, what did your parents think?

It's like, oh, they just just do what people tell you.

That's what their parents are like.

And that's kind of what my parents are like, but I think they would have raised an eyebrow with that one.

Yeah, that's- It's a different time.

It's weird.

It is weird.

It's crazy weird.

It's a lot of fun.

No.

It was terrible.

So all right, I think it's time without further ado.

We get to our nightlight question of the night.

Kathryn Lake

Let's talk about the question.

Okay, question.

Question.

Question.

Pregunta.

Question.

Question.

Okay, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Domanda.

Question.

Question.

Questions.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, in honor of Matt Damon's birthday this week, what is your favorite Matt Damon movie?

And I'm just looking through this because

He has made a ton of movies.

He hasn't even been around.

I think Goodwill Hunting came out in like 97.

That put him on the map.

So 28 years.

He's got like 100 movies.

Maybe not 100.

What is your favorite Matt Damon movie?

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Let us know.

You can text us on the app or on the stream.

If you're watching the radio on Facebook, YouTube, or ex, ex Twitter, let us know.

We love it when you are a part of the show and we'll read your text on the radio.

You know, it's funny, Dave on the stream said, field of dreams, goodwill hunting, saving private Ryan.

I think he wasn't field of dreams.

He was like a kid or something if I'm not mistaken.

And I don't...

I don't know.

I'm still thinking about this, to be honest with you.

Did you answer the question?

I did.

What was your answer?

Well, first, I really liked the movie Air.

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Oh,

yeah.

About Nike, you know, getting Michael Jordan to sign

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with him.

Yes.

Which, fantastic movie.

Love that

movie.

And then the other one was Downsizing.

I don't know if you've ever seen that.

Pete Schwaba

I feel like I have, but how old is that movie?

I think it's early 2000s, maybe.

Okay.

But it's about, like...

You can make a change to yourself where you're like Like super small Like the size of like a toy and then you live in this huge like this kind of like Weird paradise where you're

that

small and everything's cheaper.

So they do that.

That's bizarre He's gonna do it with his wife Okay, that's

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okay,

and his his wife backs out last second

He gets shrunk and he's in this paradise kind of just by himself But it takes a crazy turn and it's it's a really good movie actually say say the title again downsizing

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interesting You know the obvious choice is the Bourne movies, but I'm not gonna go there.

I'm gonna Reserve the right to chew.

I'm gonna say and I'll pick between one of these rounders air

I just lost my rounders, air, and maybe Ford versus Ferrari.

That was a great movie.

We'll discuss, but let us know what you think, folks.

What is your favorite Matt Damon movie?

We're talking movies.

It's the popcorn pick of the week with our pal Matt Miller coming up at 635 and then Rob Momarts at 720.

Brilliant illustrator.

It's Pete Schwabba in Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

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Pete Schwaba

I'm Pete Schwabba, this is Nightlight.

That is John Mellencamp with I Need A Lover.

He turns 74 today, I think?

I thought I'd look this up, but apparently not.

And again, like John Mellencamp, one of the greats, you just don't hear his name that much.

I know he had some health problems, but he, great songs.

Pink Houses, Small Town, Minutes to Memories.

He's got some amazing tunes.

Do we have a phone call counter?

Yes, we do.

Terry for Madison.

Terry,

how are

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you?

I am great.

How are you?

Pete Schwaba

Doing very well.

It's nice to hear from you.

Thank you.

Pete Schwaba

Sure.

What's on your

mind?

Well, it's also Jackson Brown's birthday today.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, is that right?

Yeah, I think he's 77.

Pete Schwaba

Wow.

Yeah, not young, but you know.

He's had a good run.

He's

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awesome.

I love Jackson.

What is your favorite Jackson Brown song?

Well, it's kind of obscure.

Yeah, it's called Ready or Not.

Pete Schwaba

I think I know that song.

Yeah, it's about him basically getting his girlfriend pregnant.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, wow.

Well, it's interesting.

Do you remember?

The song, I think it was Somebody's Baby that was in Fast Times at Ridgemont

High.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And Jennifer Jason Lee's

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character got pregnant.

But that was a great use of his music.

My favorite Jackson Brown tune is running on empty, I think.

I love that song.

Yeah.

Actually, I think that song is on that album.

Oh, OK.

And of course, take it easy, but that doesn't count because it's a great

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song.

Yeah, no, that's a great call.

Thank you for the nudge that slipped by me yesterday when I was preparing the show.

So

thanks for the heads up.

I think the Facebook on that one, but anyhow.

And I think that John Mellencamp.

What has been also taking care of his daughter who might be very ill?

Pete Schwaba

Oh, no, I didn't know that

Yeah, when you said that He was sick.

It's like, oh, I think it's his daughter, but I could be wrong.

I thought I read that though.

So anyhow, well, that could be good friends with Bruce

So.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah.

And I know you're a Bruce fan.

Pete Schwaba

Do I say that too much?

I am a huge Bruce fan.

I think the

world.

Yeah.

Well, thank you.

Thank you for

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the call, Terry.

Have a great night.

Thanks, you guys, too.

Love the show.

Pete Schwaba

And you're very welcome.

Thank

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you.

I didn't know that about his daughter, but even with his health problems, I feel like it's been even longer.

I don't know.

Maybe he just voluntarily dropped out of the spotlight, too.

Who knows?

Thank you for the call, Terry.

Khan, do you have a realistic prediction for tonight's game?

Broer's, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say like six to two.

Pete Schwaba

If I were to bet, I would never bet against my own team.

I'm that idiot in fantasy that drafts players from my own team, so I never have to root against them.

I do feel like the Brewers don't want game five at home.

That's pressure.

Not to say they can't do it, but I do feel like they're going to come out tonight just balls out, so to speak, you know.

Yeah, I

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think they're

going to they're going to come out and be ready to play this time.

Last night was a little different.

I think this time is going to

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be.

Yeah, we'll see.

Hotter bets.

I although the Cubs probably got a big jolt out of that win to win the way they did.

If they did come back and win, you'd look back at that and go, that was a momentum shift, but I do feel like the Brewers are just, I think they don't want a game five.

I'm just gonna have to monitor the game, because I'm not gonna go watch it with my dad if the Cubs are losing when I get back to town.

Anyway, well, that'll be interesting to see.

Dave on the stream says, Conrad, we don't want to hear your dreams.

Speak for yourself, Dave.

That's good radio.

What was Dave insinuating there,

Conrad?

I said his wife dinner his wife and him wanted to do it or something like that

Pete Schwaba

And you talking about the movie you dream of Matt Damon and his wife.

That's weird dreams out there.

I guess I

just look up to him.

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I think I Think I'm gonna go my favorite Matt Damon movie and the departed is in there, too And he was really good in that he held his own with really good actors, but I'm gonna say rounders So I'll go with rounders

Good movie.

Good movie about poker.

I love poker.

I love John Malkovich.

Ed Norton's in it.

He does a great job.

So there you go.

Other social media posts.

Just to let you know, folks, we do post our question of the day on Facebook every day.

So you can weigh in there if you can't listen to the show.

We'll still read it on the air.

Janet on social media says, goodwill hunting.

I assumed we'd get a few goodwill hunting votes tonight.

And that was a great movie.

Did you like goodwill hunting?

Did you see that?

I've

actually never seen

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it.

OK.

I bet you'd really dig it.

I mean, it's what put he and Ben Affleck on the map.

And I didn't love it when it came out, but I do like it.

I think it's a nice movie.

There were all kinds of rumors that they didn't really write it, that they brought in, what's the script doctor's name?

William Goldman, I think, to write a lot of the script, but Affleck and Damon still got credit.

I don't know that for a fact.

But it wouldn't surprise me because there were two young guys and I think the studio saw an opportunity there to promote these two guys because they were good actors, a great presence on camera, and they had a nice story.

So whether or not it was tweaked by a script doctor, I don't know, but it's a good movie.

I like it.

I think it holds up.

Laurie from, is this for us, Con?

I don't think Laurie's text is for us, is it?

No.

No, okay.

Edward says he's in the 401 for he says the talented mr. Ripley.

Yeah, that was good one with Jude Law plays a real psycho douchebag We could say douchebag, right?

That's just good clean American verbiage Anna from Madison says hi Pete and Conrad my favorite Matt Damon movie was saving private Ryan And then you got that movie too.

He's got a ton of credits

That's incredible.

All right, we'll read more of your texts as the show goes on.

What is your favorite Matt Damon movie?

It's Matt's birthday this week, and that's a good question.

He's done enough movies where we can, even the casual fan probably knows a couple.

When we come back, folks, we're making the popcorn pick of the week with our pal Milwaukee film critic, Matt Miller, and all kinds of fun here.

Be part of the show.

Phone lines are open.

Let's do this.

It's Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio

Network.

It's time for the nightlight popcorn pick of the week where we recommend a movie that you'll either enjoy or won't here's your host peach wabba

Pete Schwaba

All right, welcome back to nightlight folks.

It is the Christmas Eve of weeknights.

It is Thursday folks You are in the home stretch to the weekend and what better way to to do that than with the popcorn pick of the week We do have can we take a quick call Conrad?

Who do we have?

Yeah, Richard from walk of show.

Pete Schwaba

All right Let's take a quick phone call here before we get to our guest Matt Miller Richard.

Hello

Hi, how are you doing doing great?

How are you?

I'm pretty good.

I come across the interesting movie.

I'd like to put out I don't know if you ever heard of it or her or saw it called music within about maybe 26 No 2006 maybe okay It's on a true story of a Vietnam vet and what's really great about it is You can laugh and cry through this movie.

He gets disabled

And during the Dukakis senior Bush election, he gets out to the media that whoever decides to start something to help the veterans get jobs will win the election.

And guess who takes them up on it?

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Dukakis?

No.

Bush?

George Bush.

He got the votes

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nice.

I do kind of remember this movie.

It's Ron Livingston in the lead But I've never seen it, but you recommend

yeah, okay Yeah, you can tell it's it's it the fact it's a true story.

It's full of laughs and tears But it's you know, I don't think they had a high budget, but it's done pretty well It's got all of the 70s best music playing through it.

Okay.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, I love that

and and there's a lot of funny

parts in

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it.

So

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that's Richard's popcorn pick of the week.

And if you're interested, folks, you could check that out on Tubi.

It says it's free on Tubi.

Well, everything's free on Tubi, but that's a great choice.

Thank you, buddy.

I appreciate the recommendation.

Have a good one.

Yeah, you too, Richard.

Thank you very much.

All right, look at that Conrad.

You get two popcorn picks this week.

One from one of our regular listeners, Love Richard.

And now we are going to bring in one of our frequent flyers here at Nightlight.

He is a film critic based in Milwaukee and lots of fun to talk to here on Nightlight from time to time.

And he's here to make the popcorn pick of the week, Mr. Matt Miller.

Hey, buddy.

I'm honored.

Thanks for having me.

Likewise.

I've been trying to set this up for a while.

When I realized you hadn't done this yet.

It's always nice to get a critic's perspective, you know, or a recommendation for that matter.

So I'm thrilled you're here.

Do you have a, do you have a favorite Matt Damon movie, Matt?

A favorite Matt Damon movie.

Pete Schwaba

We're celebrating his birthday a little bit tonight.

So that's our question tonight.

I do really enjoy the born movies, or at least the original three.

The latter ones are not very good.

I always enjoy an Ocean's Eleven.

That's just great watching right there.

The Martian is very enjoyable.

I don't know if his highs are very high.

You know, I think he's a good actor, but I don't often think about like great Matt Damon performances off the top of my head.

He's always just steady two hands on the wheel and there is value in that.

There is value in just a well made cheeseburger, you

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know.

Absolutely.

And I that's that's a great cop because he was in.

You know, I would say my favorite was maybe Rounders.

Obviously

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the Bourne

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movies are great, but I liked Rounders.

I liked Air.

I liked Ford versus Ferrari.

But in the departed, he held his own with some pretty good actors.

So I had trouble choosing, actually, because I don't I agree with you.

I don't think he's in the upper echelon, but he's on the upper end of serviceable, if you will.

100% he's a he's a good movie star and I think yeah, you know, he's very good in Oppenheimer I'm going through his list of credits now He's very good under I mean everyone's really good in Oppenheimer, but he's rather good He's also I think he's an actor who's really well weaponized

And what I mean by that is like, he's really good and interstellar because you look at Matt Damon and he's supposed to be all American hero guy.

And then the movie weaponizes that and it's just like, no, this is a broken guy who thought he was going to be the hero and wasn't and is now willing to like end the human race to prove that he's a good guy.

And, like, it is interesting how movies utilize them.

I think that Christopher Nolan really knows how to use Matt Damon really well.

I think those are the kind of performances that are best when a director really is like, I know how to utilize you in a way that will be, that takes your movie star persona and weaponizes it in a way for the audience.

Pete Schwaba

That's a great answer.

Yeah, and he's made some good films.

There's no question about it.

So but let's let's turn our attention to I'm very anxious to talk to you about your approach Matt regarding the popcorn pick How do you like to watch movies like as a critic?

Do you prefer a theater that's filled with people or do you like to watch in the comfort of your own home and block everything out?

What's your

process?

Theater 100% all day every day.

I will take a theater 100% of the time.

I will take a theater empty.

I will

I will take a theater filled with people on their cell phones.

I will take a movie in a theater with a bunch of movie talkers.

I will take all of that over streaming something at home, all alone on my couch, being easily distracted and just not being immersed in the movie.

I think the theatrical experience is the best way to watch a movie.

Are there issues with it?

Absolutely.

But I just think there's no better way to submit yourself to a story, to submit yourself to an experience like a movie theater.

Pete Schwaba

I agree.

Let's talk about that, though.

You're at the movie.

You're trying to watch it.

You're going to write a review.

Maybe you're just there for fun.

And there's a bunch of kids talking or some couple or some older people that won't.

And the older people, God bless them.

You know, they talk loud, they lean over, they

cry to whipper.

All right, so what are you

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doing?

100% because A, older people talk loudly.

Yes.

And B, young people don't like being called out and like will be quiet if you shush them.

Older audiences are offended.

that you made issue with them talking loudly.

Pete Schwaba

I've done that too.

And they feel like they give you a look like you're in their living room or something.

It's like, no, we're all paid money to see this movie.

Yeah, I

don't know why you paid money to talk through a movie.

But again, better experience than at home.

Pete Schwaba

OK, very good.

And what kind of movies, what are your favorite movies to watch, Matt?

Do you have a genre you prefer when you're not reviewing something?

My Smarmy answer is good movies.

I don't really have a favorite genre.

I will watch a musical.

I will watch a weird indie movie.

I will watch a horror movie.

I'll watch an animated kids movie.

If a movie is good, I want to see it.

I want to experience it.

I'll watch an old movie.

I'll watch a silent movie.

I'll watch a weird.

The only one I won't watch is an AI movie.

Get that crap out of my

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face.

I almost asked you about that because there was an article last week, you know, Tilly Norwood, this whole thing with, you know, her creators saying she might sign with an agent.

She's got her own Instagram account.

I don't know if you're familiar with the Tilly Norwood stuff, but

she doesn't have her own Instagram

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account.

That's like

saying Wendy's has an Instagram.

Correct.

Wendy's is not a person.

Wendy's is a brand.

Right.

Norwood is not a person.

She has a computer program.

Pete Schwaba

Why can't they, why can't they categorized AI as animation?

That's basically what it is, right?

I mean, it's like Pixar.

I mean, it's animation without even the art of animation.

I mean, I'm not saying this to make you feel bad, but that's an insult to animators.

Animators work hard.

This is a computer plagiarizing a bunch of stuff and creating a fake person.

And it stinks.

And I think you can tell that this is not.

This is not something like they keep saying like, oh, audience, I think this is here to stay.

No, it's not.

You said the same thing about the stupid monkey images three years ago.

And now we don't even, I don't even know what they're called anymore.

These aren't things being decided by audiences.

Audiences don't want to see AI.

When you hear about AI, we call it out of the room.

You know, stuff planted by the industry, planted by, you know, these up and coming AI groups.

That's why you're reading about the stuff in

you know, variety, you're not reading about it from fans of Tilly Norwood on your computer.

You're not reading tweets and Facebook posts being like Tilly Norwood's really impressive.

No, it's just all industry people trying to be like, no, this is the next big thing.

You 100% want to be on this.

It's 3D TVs, but worse.

Pete Schwaba

You know, as I'm talking to you, and my guest is Matt Miller, he is a Milwaukee based film critic.

He's here to make the popcorn pick of the week tonight.

Then we're going to tell you about what you can see in the theaters and what's coming.

up.

I don't think you can replace actors with AI.

You know another profession I don't think they can replace Matt are movie reviewers with AI.

Honestly how could they could give very broad strokes but no nuts and bolts or nuance right?

I mean they've certainly tried.

I mean there's not many paid

film critics around the around the country much anymore.

And even the places that there are critics, they're not around.

But people, what's the first thing you do when you get out of movie generally?

You talk to somebody about it.

You text a buddy who's seen the movie, or you talk with the person you went to go see it with.

You don't just sit with the movie and then, you know, digest it and never think about it again.

And if you do, must not have been a great movie.

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You know,

you want people to talk with you about

the thing that you saw.

And that's what movie critics do.

They are having the conversation.

They're not ending the conversation.

If anything, hopefully, they're starting a conversation.

They're participating in the conversation.

I think there's this idea of that critics think of themselves as high and mighty, and for sure there are some out there that do feel that way about themselves.

But most critics are just people who want to talk to you about the movie they saw.

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, exactly.

No, that's a great answer.

When did you become fascinated with movies or think that I want to do this for a living?

I want to watch movies.

Like when did they captivate you?

Yeah, so it's hard to pinpoint it.

Honestly, when I was a young kid, I hated movies.

Really?

My parents had to like take me out of the theaters because I was so easily scared.

I was... Oh, wow.

Jibonchi gave me nightmares.

The THX sound at the beginning of Empire Strikes Back gave me nightmares.

The Disney animated short film Runaway Brain gave me nightmares.

Wow.

Everything gave me nightmares as a kid.

And then I think around when I was like first or second grade, honestly,

I started, you know, reading my dad's entertainment weekly and I started reading my parents weekend queue section and I just got really interested in movies and I saw stuff like the Truman Show really opened things up for me.

Really great movie, tremendous movie, the weird Jim Carrey movie.

And I just, you know, I kept reading these reviews and kept and I watched some Ebert and Roper and Siskel and Ebert and I was like,

I'm fascinated by these people talking about these movies and thinking about how they're made.

And I literally would bring the weekend cue from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel into my third grade classroom every Friday.

And they'd let me do a little presentation of the movies that came out that weekend.

Oh, very cool.

Cool kid.

Pete Schwaba

What's your favorite movie snack mat in the theater and then at home?

Let's break it down there.

If I'm watching a movie at home, I'm generally not eating.

I might be having like a bowl of ice cream or something at home, but I don't really have a go to, and honestly, I don't really have a go to at the movie theater either.

I kind of go through ebbs and flows.

I'm getting back into popcorn after working at a movie theater for 10 years in my high school and college days.

You really sensory, it gets into your DNA and into your bloodstream.

And now finally, probably about 20 years later,

I'm finally getting used to eating popcorn again and enjoying that, but I'll do a bunch of crunch.

I'll do a chill treatment if I'm feeling frisky.

You know, an occasional gummi snack is always good, a Jolly Rancher gummies.

Yeah, honestly, I just like candy and I just like movies.

So that's, that's all I need.

Pete Schwaba

That's great.

Do you have a movie cocktail that you like at home or have you ever snuck booze into the theater?

I have never snuck booze into a theater, mainly because I'm not savvy enough how to do it.

I'm not good at sneaking into movies or anything.

I was never good at sneaking into movies, wasn't good at sneaking candy into movies, and certainly wasn't going to be good at sneaking alcohol

Pete Schwaba

in the movies.

You're a good citizen.

I'm mainly out of ineptitude.

I'm probably having a beer.

All right.

Yeah, I'm

Pete Schwaba

probably

enjoying a refreshing beer while watching a

Pete Schwaba

movie.

We're going to do a very quick break.

And then when we come back, our guest, Matt Miller, Milwaukee Film Critic, is going to give us his popcorn pick of the week.

This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio

Network.

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You're listening to Civic Media.

Find the latest news, information, and archives of all your favorite shows on the Civic Media website,

Pete Schwaba

civicmedia.us.

It is

not.

But you know, maybe it is Matt Damon has a habit of just showing up in movies whenever

Pete Schwaba

I know one of one of our stream textures Dave said he was in field of dreams and I forgot about that he was like an extra or something like that.

Like that was

I mean, even nowadays, like he'll pop up in a Thor movie, he'll pop up in a Soderbergh movie, just like randomly unbuilt.

Like, if you remember the movie, Unsane with Claire Foy from like 10 years ago, he

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like

randomly shows up in that one just as like a tech guy.

That David will just do a movie.

Pete Schwaba

He's like Woody Harrelson.

I think people just like him.

He seems like a decent guy, easy to have around, good sense of humor.

There must be something to that.

All right, Matt, last question for you before we get your pick up.

I think I know what you're going to say about this.

How do you feel about previews?

I like previews.

I like trailers.

I feel like they set the mood for me seeing a movie.

I like seeing a preview that gets me excited.

I am a little bummed out.

I miss the days of the debut trailer in theaters when you'd be watching a trailer and you're like, oh, I haven't seen this before.

What is this?

I wish I missed that mystery.

But I love previous, I don't love the commercials that

Pete Schwaba

are- Me either.

Yeah.

I

think honestly-

I think that's what people dislike.

They dislike the five AMC, you know, the Nicole Kidman and the Dancing People and the Coca-Cola ad.

And like, you know, that's the stuff people don't like.

I think most people are totally fine with trailers.

They like trailers.

They like little mini movies.

Pete Schwaba

I remember, I was at a different radio station and I interviewed you and I remember saying how much I like streaming because you could just click when the second the episode was over, you could click something and it takes you right.

to the next episode.

I don't know if you remember this.

You said, I like the credits.

I like the opening.

Like you like the whole experience.

And I think that's just a testament to, you know, how thorough you are as a critic and you like the whole experience.

So I thought you'd like previous.

I do think there is some that one of the worst things streaming has done is they've gotten rid of the end credits in a lot of ways.

Pete Schwaba

I mean, as

soon as you watch a movie, the credits get shunted to the left hand corner of the screen and they

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want to

shove another movie in your face.

And it's like, no, A, you know,

you know, those credits serve a purpose.

It's to, you know, show credit to where credit is due in the movie.

But also that is, I like to process the movie.

I like to sit there and think about what I've just seen, you know?

I'm not saying you have to sit all the way through to the, you know, final company logos, but there is something about just like sitting there and letting a movie marinate and letting yourself think about it instead of just being like, next content, please.

Pete Schwaba

That's great.

All right.

I think it is time, Conrad, if you please, to get Mr. Miller's popcorn pick of the week.

Matt Miller, what is your popcorn pick of the week?

It is called Good Boy.

It is called Good Boy.

It is in theaters right now.

It is an indie horror movie.

This time of year, it's really hard to find horror movies to recommend to dog lovers because if there's one thing he's famous for, it's killing off dogs in the name of heightening the tension of a movie.

There's so many times I've seen a really great horror movie and I can't recommend it to like my sister or other people because it's like they're dog lovers.

Good Boy is the perfect movie for the dog lover in your life because it is a horror movie told from the perspective of a dog.

is a haunted house movie about a man and his loyal dog, played by a real dog, incredibly.

It is

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an

incredible one of the five best performances I've maybe seen this year by this dog.

And they go out to this cabin in the woods because he's dealing with some issues.

And the cabin has some weird stuff going on in it.

And the dog is the person whose perspective you're seeing the movie through.

You are seeing everything through this dog kind of investigating this house and worried about its owner.

And it's such a clever gimmick.

And the thing, it goes beyond being a gimmick.

By the end, it really becomes emotional, becomes a movie about dogs' loyalty and their love for the people in their lives.

And it becomes really touching in a way, while also being genuinely

really freaky.

It's a low budget movie.

It was made for probably, you know, less than the catering on Oppenheimer.

But it is, it is a really well done horror movie.

It hit me in the feels and in the frights.

I really recommend people checking that out if they're looking for a dog friendly scare this Halloween season.

Good boy.

Pete Schwaba

That's great.

And I remember reading about this.

And when I do my thing about what's opening, I forgot I had even included this.

It really good reviews rated PG 13 and not a

long movie either, it's like a little over an hour.

In one of the best things about it.

It is a tight 75 minutes It knows how to get in and get out which is yeah a lot of horror movie a lot of movies just in general these days don't know how to do and I there's been a lot of these kind of buzzy gimmick based horror movies in recent there was the late night with the devil last year there was in a violent nature and they've all kind of been underwhelming because they don't stick with the gimmick or the gimmick kind of they run out of steam with it or it kind of

under over promises and under delivers.

And I think Good Boy is one where they really think about the gimmick, think about using it in interesting ways and think about using it into telling an emotional, genuine story.

It's not just a clever new take on a horror movie.

It ties in with the story it's trying to tell.

I had a really good time with it.

I think it's very much worth your while.

So yeah, that's a good perfect pick for the Halloween season.

Good Boy in theaters now.

Pete Schwaba

That's an outstanding pick.

I'm just added it to my list.

I think this weekend I'm gonna try to see like three movies I know I want to see a roof man, and I want to see good boy, and then there's the long walk my son loved When we come back Matt has agreed to stick around through the news and join us for a few minutes anyway into act 2 Rob Momarts will be here at 720, but I want to ask Matt about One battle after another very excited to talk about that movie with you Matt, and then I want to ask you about the smashing machine too because

things are all over with that it didn't do well at the box office it was kind of a critics darling it can it seemed like and the rock got a big standing ovation we'll talk to matt about that we'll talk to him about one battle after another and he's going to tell us what else is coming up like only matt can do it's great to have you here buddy and we are coming right back after intermission uh it's peach wabba and nightlight on the civic media radio network

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