Packers Passion: From Tokyo to Lambeau (Hour 2)

Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay.

This is Night Light with Pete Chwaba.

Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now a guy who still likes to build a fort.

Pete Chwaba.

Welcome to Night Light, ladies and gentlemen.

Oh, we got a great show tonight.

So it's good that you're here.

It's a Tuesday night here in the beautiful state of Wisconsin.

Kind of a... Kind of a toasty day-to-day con, don't you think?

Yeah, just a little bit.

You could tan out there if you wanted.

No, I freckle.

I couldn't get a tan.

I can get a bronze if I try really hard, but it's just not worth it.

You know, this is the first year where my, like, arms actually kind of got a little color.

It just didn't burn.

Yeah, you probably burned too, right?

You got that kind of fair skin.

I was told by, you know, when I went in to get my haircut the other day that my brown hair turned a little light brownish.

From sun?

Yeah.

Oh, wow.

All right.

You ever dye your hair?

When I was like 12 or something, I put blue highlights in my hair.

That's a but it didn't last like long at all.

So

that was kind of thing when I was a kid, too We would we would put it was called a product called sun in or you put lemon juice in your hair and it was supposed to lighten it I think it did some Sun and once I kind of looked sort of like an albino didn't really turn out that well That's an insult to me not albinos.

So anyway Hey, I notice you put on the sheet We every we have a show sheet folks and we put guests on all that kind of stuff and then we always list the days of the years

You updated this, I did not.

What is Stroop Waffle Day?

Oh, Stroop Waffles are amazing.

Okay.

It's those little like, you know, like those little waffle things that you can like dip in coffee.

Oh, yeah, like a cookie, really.

Kind of like a cookie.

Yeah, that's what it is.

That's a Stroop Waffle.

Yeah, they're so good.

And they have a national day.

Yeah, they deserve it.

Apparently.

Take your right to flavor country.

All right, very good.

Well, happy Stroop Awful Day to Conrad and all.

That is Conrad Krieger working the board.

I am Pete Schwab.

It is great to have you here, folks.

A really fun show tonight.

We're going to cover two topics I love.

Obviously, I love entertainment, and I love all things movies, TV, comedy, music, everything.

And I love sports.

So we're going to talk about all of that tonight.

At 635, Chris Foran, the recently retired Conrad, did you know that?

I did.

He wrote for the Journal Sentinel down there in Milwaukee, Wisconsin for years and years, I want to say decades, and did great work there.

Chris was the guy who, he did an article on Nightlight.

When we launched the show, it was on, I didn't even know Chris at the time, and he just said civic media.

is putting on an entertainment show hosted by Pete Schwab.

It was great.

It was a little publicity.

So I thought, you know, I bet he'd be a good guest.

And Chris has been on the air with us now for close to two years, lots of fun, very informed, and a big fan of movies and TV.

So Chris has also seen the movie I went to see today, one battle after another.

And I cannot wait to talk about it with Chris.

I'll give you guys the highlights in just a minute, but really solid film.

Maybe my favorite of the year.

It's probably between that and Sinners.

I haven't seen everything though.

So we'll talk to Chris about that at 635 and some other things.

I might ask him for a fun story he covered over the years.

And then at 720, Nightlight Sidekick, Sean Hannish will be here.

Sean's been on the show a lot.

He's great.

He's so much fun to talk to.

Nightlight Bestie.

Nightlight Bestie, for sure.

Sean is the director of Just A Bit Outside, the story of the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers.

And now Sean finds himself kind of in the distribution business a little bit.

He got behind a film.

I don't technically know how it happened, but we'll talk to Sean about this.

He got behind the film, No Packers, No Life, which we've discussed on this show with the film's director, Craig Benzine.

He's been on the show two or three times.

And Craig goes by the YouTube handle, Wheezy Waiter.

He's got over a million followers.

I think this is Craig's first film, No Packers, No Life.

really fun film about Japanese Packer fans.

And we've talked to Craig about it, and now we're gonna talk to Sean about it because the film is coming to Marcus Theaters in a couple weeks.

And Sean is kind of the driving force behind getting the film into, or on the big screen, so to speak.

So it'll be fun to talk to Sean and catch up, and we'll tell you what also is happening with Adjust A Bit Outside.

So the Brewers have a buy, right?

Yeah.

And the Cubs are, they already won today.

I thought so.

I saw they were winning.

But is that a best of three?

Yes.

Well, actually, they got a one.

Yeah, best of three.

Best of three.

They got to win two games.

Then they'll play the Brewers.

Then they'll play the seven game, right?

That's a five.

That's a five.

And then

it's seven.

And then seven.

Sorry.

We know we're on opposite sides of the glass here, literally and figuratively.

As a Brewer fan, the Brewers kind of walked away with the division, but the Cubs won the season series.

What do you think what would you be more comfortable with Conrad a five game series or a seven game series?

I like the you know, honestly, I I hate that they do this stupid For the first wild wild card, you know, it's like all right.

Yeah,

you can do best out of three But I think it go it should go right to seven.

I'm not a fan of the five and then seven and seven

I Would think a seven would favor the Brewers because I think they have a better

Well, they have better pitching, right?

Yeah.

It seems like a seven game series would.

I don't know.

It should be interesting.

It's it's just going to be a dynamite series.

Yeah.

I 94 series.

I love it.

That'll be fun.

Assuming the Cubs can get.

Well, yeah, we gotta stop on the brakes.

You know, I'm already buying my tickets.

Get Chris Morrill on the blower.

I want the loge.

The Brewer tickets.

You can't do that for the playoffs probably.

Yeah, I don't think so.

All right.

So there you go, folks.

Fun guests tonight.

Chris Foran and Sean Hannish, two swell guys.

It's kind of a Milwaukee show, too.

Sean is a native Milwaukeean, and Chris has lived there for many, many years, so he got a big Milwaukee slant.

You

know, tomorrow we kind of have a little Madison, too.

I know.

Sometimes it works out that

way.

Now it's rivalry, right?

Yeah, although Dan Davies is from Appleton.

He's got big news.

That's why Dan was on the show a few weeks ago, but he's got big news.

So we're going to bring him on for a quick segment tomorrow night after 7 30.

And Catherine Lake is going to talk about the Godfather of Green Bay screening.

And Greg Bach is going to talk about the Milwaukee Comedy Festival.

There you I just pitched all of tomorrow night show here.

And we've got so much to get to tonight.

I can't waste that kind of time.

Did you see this?

Yachty kidnapper hoax.

And you know, I saw the,

you know, the

collect bait kind of thing.

Yeah, Instagram.

I didn't click into it.

But it is a true.

No, it's a hoax.

That's why I said hoax.

No, I, it's so weird because I saw this and the guy is just a strange looking guy.

He's got, you know, like the bowl hair, the dumb and dumber haircut.

He's got fire engine red hair and a weird expression on his face.

And it says he kidnapped 27 people to play Yahtzee for 36 hours.

which doesn't even make sense.

If this were 20 years ago, I would have thought, oh, it's a joke.

That's an onion headline, whatever.

But the way things are now in the world and how weird and crazy people are acting, I bought it.

I was like, oh, that's really weird.

That's a big Yahtzee game.

It's a huge Yahtzee.

That's a lot of Yahtzee.

That's a lot of, you're going to hear dice.

No

wonder why it was 36 hours.

You can hear dice in your head for a week.

But anyway, it was a hoax.

Kind of a funny hoax.

But the 27, you got to aim a little smaller.

That's what made it a little implausible.

Five, five people.

Five people, and made them play Yatsu overnight.

That I could buy.

So it wasn't true, so that's good.

Hey, I think it's time, Con.

We got to get to the nightlight question of the night.

Let's talk about the question.

Okay, question.

Question.

Question.

Pregunta.

Question.

Question.

Okay, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Domanda.

Question.

Questions.

When you think mediocre sitcom.

What show comes to mind?

Let me know what you think folks.

It can be a bad sitcom, but I'm looking more for the like milk toast kind of.

Like you see the ad on TV and you're just like, whatever.

I'm not watching that.

Like when even the trailer is just kind of barely evokes a smile.

And that's supposed to be the funniest stuff.

So that's the nice question.

When you think mediocre sitcom, what show comes to mind?

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So, I'll go first.

I'm gonna say the show Dharma and Greg.

Those ads would come on in the 90s.

And the 90s was a good time for sitcoms.

Streaming wasn't around yet.

There was tons of opportunities, tons of variety on the networks.

You had the big three networks, but you also had the UPN network, the WB network.

Fox had just kind of started like in the late 80s, whatever, putting out entertainment like The Simpsons.

And I just remember whenever Dharma and Greg would come on, it was Thomas Gibson and Jenna Elfman.

And I was just like, oh, she's the quirky hippie and he's the straight lays.

It just never.

And I did check it out a couple times.

And man, was it mediocre.

My runners up are mad about you.

Anything with Scott Baio.

And this might be a little bit controversial.

Not because of Bill Cosby, just because I think a lot of people considered Cosby a good show.

I liked the pilot a lot.

I was excited.

And I liked Bill Cosby stand up.

When I was a kid, I had the albums and I would listen to them.

And I really liked him as a stand-up.

This is before anybody knew he was a creep.

But Cosby, I just, I kept watching.

I'm like, this isn't that funny.

Like they tackled serious issues.

Wasn't a huge fan of home improvement either.

But I would say Dharma and Greg is my front runner.

That is my most mediocre sitcom.

You got one, Con?

Yeah, and I say this goes out to kind of, it branches out to different shows too, is any show that was really popular and they branch off to a different show after.

After the fact that that show is done.

It's like a spin-off and it's absolutely terrible Just ruins kind of the the show that was popular.

Yeah,

and I think one that comes to mind is Netflix.

Why did you make a?

spin-off of that 70 show

So that was I saw your answer here on social media that 90s show it is so bad I never even heard of that I knew they they did that 80s show and that didn't last long either

That 90s show is you know how when SNL does a skit and it's like they try to do bad acting Yeah, that's how that whole show is

terrible Um When and that was a Netflix show

that wasn't even like a Netflix has made some stinkers.

Oh,

yeah, they made a They made a Rob Schneider show that's called real Rob

stinkeroo Can't imagine like Rob Schneider he's a little crazy now, but back he was a good stand-up

like in the late 80s Rob Schneider was a very good stand-up but anytime they put that guy in a movie it's like oh my god he either has the worst representatives or just can't carry a movie or something but man is he bad

yeah no that that show was so bad it

was

supposed to be like a family comedy like him going with his family and stuff like that but it's just terrible

Let us know, folks, what you think, what comes to mind when you think mediocre sitcom?

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He's not happy.

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Well, he just needs to, you know, listen to any shows on the Civic.

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I came down early today.

We don't have matinees in Marinette where I live.

Movie matinees after the kids go back to school.

We have them during the summer.

But like September 1st they go away.

So I have to come down to Green Bay to do my movie watching during the week and I've been talking about this movie a lot on the show because it was a Highly kind of anticipated movies Paul Thomas Anderson great director.

It got incredible reviews.

I think a 98% and rotten tomatoes Sean Penn Leonardo DiCaprio Regina King Taiana Taylor Benicio del Torre and this newcomer

Is her name Infinity Chaser?

Chase Infinity.

She's excellent.

So the movie is outstanding.

And Chris, Foran and I are gonna talk about it at 630, but I cannot recommend this movie enough.

It's got a 96% from critics.

It's two hours and 40 minutes long, and it's one of those films that's long, but I wanted it to keep going.

There's all kinds of parallels to Star Wars.

I think that was Joe.

When Joe was on the show Friday, my son, he gave a quick review of it because he had seen it Thursday night.

And I totally see those similarities.

We'll ask Chris, if he noticed those as well.

But really fun action.

And remember, Con, how we talked about, for me, action comedy usually is a recipe for a bad movie.

I never feel like the comedy delivers.

The action's cheesy.

This is an action thriller first.

And there's no jokes.

It's just the comedy comes.

very organically out of the situations and out of the characters.

They kind of take shots at everybody.

Those on the left, those on the right.

It's a really good movie.

Very excited to talk with it, about it with Chris Foran, but I can't not, I can't recommend it enough.

So our question of the night is when you think mediocre sitcom, what show comes to mind?

Let me know.

Oh, that was.

Okay, so Conrad, I just asked Conrad too.

This is kind of cool.

So that's our question tonight.

Let me know what comes to mind when you think mediocre sitcom.

Tony Bennett was indicted, inducted.

I'm having one of those days where I have not talked to anybody today.

I lead a very solitary existence during the day.

And then I go to a three hour movie.

Yeah, sometimes in those movies, you just got to talk.

I think I do.

You got to warm up the pipes.

If it was a bad movie, I might have.

Tony Bennett was inducted into the National, was not inducted, what is he?

Oh, he was inducted into the Wisconsin Basketball Coaches Association, Hall of Fame.

All right, that's cool, because I guess he played at Preble.

I thought he played high school ball in Stevens Point.

Obviously, his dad, Dick Bennett,

coaching legend here in Wisconsin, coached at Stevens Point, coached at Green Bay, then coached UW Madison, went to the final four in like maybe 0-2, 0-3.

Tony was part of that team.

And then, man, did I want him to come back here and coach the Badgers a few years ago.

But he stayed in Virginia.

And this is really interesting.

This is kind of the sign of a good coach.

His team was the first team to lose as a number one seed to his 16th seed, I think.

First or second, that's always a good thing.

OK, that's a bad thing.

It's infamous.

It's infamy.

And I felt bad for Tony Bennett because I liked him.

Well, guess what?

He comes back and wins the national championship.

Yeah.

So he totally erased that scar on his record.

And it's almost even more impressive that you overcome adversity like that.

Love the guy.

We still love to see him coaching in Madison at some point.

You know, it's March Madness, you know.

Anything can happen, so.

Absolutely.

So let's go to the text line.

Do we have a text counter?

I gotta keep up.

We do.

Let's read our social media text first.

Let's do that because people put these out throughout the day and I love kind of peeking and seeing what people say.

Daniel Wheeler says, night court.

He says mediocre because I'd watch it but never looked forward to it.

That's a great answer And I don't disagree with you Daniel.

I I didn't watch night court much if I remember correctly must see TV on NBC on Thursdays in the 80s was Cosby Family ties I think then cheers and then night court Cosby was like the number one show on TV

I think and then cheers came along but those first three were ratings beneath and I think night court did well too because it had great lead-ins But I kind of agree with you Daniel.

I never thought it was that funny Although we do like John Larriquette Jay on social media says according to Jim or any of the clones of that That's great.

Thank you Jay and I agree Chicken are the egg photography.

We know Chris.

He says American dad does animation count it absolutely counts Chris

I mean chicken or the egg photography.

Thank you for the text.

My pal Boris says the single guy Jonathan Silverman.

Yeah, agree with that one too.

Civic media zone Tony Zimmerman.

Hey Tony.

He says Superstore never watched it but always felt like they were trying to recapture the magic of the office and Parks and Rec.

100% agree Tony.

I might even say

Parks and Rec.

I didn't love as much as the office.

All right, we're coming right back with our pal, Chris Foren, formerly from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, talking movies.

It's Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio

Network.

Welcome back to Night Light.

I'm Pete Schwabba.

Great to have you with me on this Tuesday night edition of Night Light.

We are asking the question tonight, folks.

When you think mediocre sitcom, what show comes to mind?

I say Dharma and Greg with a couple of, with a couple of runners up and mad about you and Cosby.

I said it and anything with Scott Bale.

Conrad says that 90s show.

Just why?

Yeah, I didn't even know what was on, so that must be mediocre at best.

All right, it is my pleasure to welcome to Back to Nightlight, one of our frequent fliers here.

He is the former entertainment reporter for the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, and he joins us periodically to talk movies and TV, and now he's retired, so we'll see if he's slowed down at all in his opinion, but I doubt it.

Mr. Chris Foren, hey, Chris.

Hey, Pete, how are you?

Good, how is retirement finding you?

Um, I'm going to box this quote.

I, I, I, I quote philosopher, Freddie Prince, Jr.

From, uh, from she's all that where, uh, says, I don't know what I'm going to do next, but I'm kind of liking the idea.

Okay.

Um, it's, it's okay.

It's, um, but I've got two very young grandchildren.

So I've been spending a lot of time having acid flashbacks for how challenging it is to spend a lot of time with three year olds.

Well, congrats

on a long career.

How long were you at the Journal Sentinel?

Well, this time I was there for 30 years and I think 11 days.

But I had worked, I had freelanced for the old morning paper at the Sentinel as a concert reviewer mostly in 81 and 82.

And then what I described as the lowest form of human life, I was a replacement intern.

They had an intern quit and needed a body, so I got hired for that in the summer of 83.

And then I made the transition to being a clerk on the paper's business desk.

And I did that for about a year.

OK.

And

then I went to grad school and worked at the business journal for a while.

I came back and worked at the business journal for a while, and then I ended up at the journalism.

So it doesn't sound like you're done yet, though.

You sound like you are open to doing something else.

Maybe.

I'm trying to keep my head working.

That's to be helpful.

I have no problem doing nothing.

There's a lot to be said for being lazy.

It should have been a sign to me that it was time to go when Ozzy Osbourne died.

My first concert, my first writing for money was reviewing Ozzy Osbourne at the Riverside in Milwaukee in May of 1981.

Oh

my gosh.

Wow.

Oh, that's kind of cool.

That's a nice

That's that's that that that that's before internet and what we used to do for concert reviews is we would Because we often reviewing shows that no one ever bands with no one ever it reviewed before So we go over to the great record store downtown called radio doctors and we would look at the albums for song titles and things like that

So that's so great a little easier

now.

It's so it's easier now, but I have to say There's nothing wrong with waiting overnight to see how a concert was

Reading about it the next day, you know, we don't need that's the kind of information we don't need immediately, right?

Right.

Well, I think our experience was that that the people who really wanted reviews, especially in print, were people who went to the show, right?

They wanted that print validation that they actually were there, you know, right?

Not a friend of the show, you know, Piat Levy just does a great job.

He does.

reviewing concerts and putting it all in context and, um, he, he, he makes them accessible for even for bands that, that I haven't heard of.

I understand what he's talking

about.

Piano is so great because he, sometimes you just meet someone, I don't know him well, but, and you go, this guy is doing exactly what he should be doing.

He's very passionate about reporting about music.

He's great at it.

Well, he's, he's very engaged and, and, and in that kind of, in any kind of,

arts or entertainment criticism, it's easy to get jaded or in a rut.

And, you know, they're, they're, you know, like they're jazz writers who will say, well, this is what defines jazz, you know, that kind of thing.

And Piat is open to anything.

And, uh, he's a fan of everybody from, you know, the newest act to, to here come the mummies to, you know, he gets, he's engaged on a basic level, personal level.

Chris, when you, I didn't, uh,

an interview recently at my hometown paper in Marinette.

And I remember going in there and there used to be 20, 25 people in there.

It looked like a newsroom like anywhere else.

It's certainly not as big as yours or Madison or even Green Bay, but there was activity and there was a buzz.

And I've seen other newsrooms where it's just depressing.

What was the journal set in the like when you left?

Like, was it still kind of humming?

I mean, it's much bigger than Marinette or even Green Bay, but or did you notice a huge drop off?

inactivity.

No, I would say that the paper now is as active and vital as staff is when I started.

There's a lot fewer people.

So that world is gone.

But there's been a really impressive group of especially young reporters and writers like Piat who are really engaged.

and and care about the community and care about the things they cover and which is this is a bonus and this is not always true.

They care about each other

and

then they look out for each other and you know and then in that business that's tough you know especially if you're you know for the if you're a woman reporter they get this the amount of abuse they get sometimes and some of those beats is unbelievable and I know I am my dad I

I was born into the business.

My dad had been at the old journal afternoon paper years before.

And he and I have a long-running conversation about how we don't cover things.

I say, yeah, we do.

It's right here.

And I think it's a little different now than it was even 15 years ago because we have the ability to work remotely.

And so you don't always have a full compliment in the office.

I think it's just as vital a place as it was before.

That's great.

Do you have a story before we move into some movie talk here that sticks out over the years, like maybe it was your favorite to cover other than the launching of Nightlight, of course?

Or an article you wrote that you're really proud of or something that a memory you can share?

You mentioned that.

There are a couple.

Particularly for this show.

I didn't do as much celebrity interviewing as some of my colleagues did.

But I remember, I don't know, four years ago, I think I interviewed Carol Burnett.

And it was just like the most lovely conversation ever, you know, and she was exactly as you would think she would be.

And I was telling a colleague about this, I interviewed Jane Fonda once.

For shoes gonna be coming to town to do some speaking engagement.

She's been in Milwaukee issues when she was in more activist Person in the early 70s.

She'd been a walkie a couple of times and at the end of the con any interview I she has said I Don't know what this I don't know what to call this

this conversation.

I said, well, I think we're going to have a conversation.

You said, no, the event I'm speaking at, I don't know what to call it because I don't know what it is.

And they ended up canceling it.

So maybe that was a good idea.

But when you mentioned that question, one of the first ones that comes to mind, and I've told this story among my colleagues many times, one of the things I first thought of was an interview I did at the Business Journal in Milwaukee, probably

35, maybe more years ago, it was a story about, because it is actually relevant today, it was a story about there was some mystery buyer buying up properties along Water Street on Wisconsin, off Wisconsin Avenue at the heart of downtown.

It's what is now the, I think it's so-called 100 East Building, but at the time it was just somebody who's buying up all these properties.

I just cold calling businesses to find out what they had heard and I talked to a woman named Lorraine Smuggler, who in addition to being the best name ever, she owned a women's professional women's clothing store, close for women to wear to work, such thing in the 80s, called Milwaukee Cloak and Suit.

And she said, yeah, this guy called me.

And he wouldn't say who he is representing.

I think I thought it was going to be Donald Trump, at least.

And this is in 1988.

After thanking her for giving me my lead, I always think of things like that.

I've been lucky to do a lot of different things.

The last couple of years, I've been doing a lot of history stories.

The last I did a couple.

worked ahead because we worked on these ahead of time.

The last one I believe is running next week and it's basically a deep dive into a photo that one of my colleagues, Bill Schultz, who does great archival mining of our photo libraries, found of just a staged photo of 10 beer schooners, you know those big goblet type things.

Along a bar and each of them is holding a small puppy.

And it ran on the front page of the local section on a Sunday in 1953.

And it was almost no information.

And so I started digging into trying to find out where it came from.

And it was really clear that the guy had set it up to promote as he had a bar on National Avenue on the south side of Milwaukee.

And the caption on the picture, which ran across the bottom of a page, didn't mention the guy's bar, which I thought was really great.

They mentioned the guy, but not like, oh, this is his bar.

Go have a beer there.

And it was fun doing that kind of things.

Those were fun to do to kind of investigative history type stuff.

That's so great.

That's kind of sounds like an improv game, like just a puppy and a big goblet write a story around it or create something.

Right.

Oh, sure.

Well, sure.

Yeah, they used to do that, you know, write the caption for crazy pictures.

Yeah.

Well, congratulations, Chris, on a great career.

I'm glad I got to know you at the tail end of it, and I look forward to whatever it is you do next.

But I hope you'll still come back and talk to us about movies and TV periodically, because we

enjoyed it.

Absolutely.

One thing of some priority is sneaking in movies and more movies when I can.

Oh, there you go.

Well, let's start there, because...

I saw it's funny.

I had an ulterior motive when you said I live in Marinette.

I come down to Green Bay.

There are no more matinees in Marinette when the kids go back to school.

So I had to come down to Green Bay to see my movies a little early.

And I just didn't feel like coming down early today.

So I said, did you see one battle after another?

And you said, yes.

So I thought, all right, I got to get off my butt and go see this movie today.

And I did.

And I loved it.

What are your overall thoughts?

I should preface it by saying, for movie people, there is a cult of Paul Thomas Anderson, who's the writer and director of one battle after another.

He is one of those brand-name directors for a certain group of people because of the movies he made, especially Boogie Nights and Magnolia.

Like they really made him out to be this kind of almost mythical figure.

And I honestly have not been a huge fan.

I, I, I feel like he'll have a great idea.

A lot of people love they, there will be blood, for example.

For me, a lot of his movies, they, they go in a direction and then the end is like, is almost a different movie, you know, like, yeah.

I mean, it almost makes sense to be kind of this weird reigning of frogs and things, but.

you know, like at the end of there will be blood where one character beats another character to death.

And the soundtrack is like, you know, I'm not seeing the humor here, you know, and that was not the I was I went to see this because I thought I should a lot of talk and it would be important to see it.

And I had a window, which is usually how I go see things.

And I was I was pleasantly surprised that it didn't have that problem.

I thought it was it moved very fast for a movie that's two hours and 45 minutes long.

Good, good car chase scenes, great performances, pretty coherent.

It's it's it's based on but not like an adaptation of a Thomas pension novel from 1990 called Vineland.

He made Paul Thomas Anderson made a movie about an out of another pension novel called Inherent Vice a couple years ago.

And that one was set

was written in 1990, but it was set in 1984, where there's a group of radicals who do something.

Their plot goes off the rails, and then we flash forward into the future.

Chris, we've got to do a quick thing here.

Let's pick up right there.

We're going to do a very short break.

Chris Foren, formerly from the Milwaukee Journal of Sentinel, is here.

We're coming right back on Nightlife.

I'm Pete Schwab, and this is Nightlight.

Our question of the night is, when you think mediocre sitcoms, what show comes to mind?

Vince Moranto on social media says, anything with Tim Allen in it.

Totally agree, Vince.

Especially the later stuff, snooze and drama.

I didn't even love Home Improvement that much either.

I mean, it had a couple laughs, but and it was highly rated.

I just didn't think it was that great.

Rachel on social media says, Seinfeld.

Oh, we're going to talk to Chris about that.

Either way, Rachel, that's fine.

And my pal Boris says, Joey.

Yeah, that show sucks.

Any of the friend spinoffs are bad.

That's a great one, though.

Thank you, Boris.

My guest is Chris Voron, formerly of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

He joins us here every so often to talk movies and TV, and he was in the middle of telling us about, Chris, you were telling us about your thoughts about one battle after another and Paul Thomas Anderson.

Yeah, I was going to say,

TLDR version.

I enjoyed it as a movie.

It would, like I said, a lot more action than you see in a typical Paul Thomas Anderson movie.

His last movie was Licorice Pizza.

It was kind of a mess, I thought, and I thought this was a lot more coherent, great, good performances.

There's some

some goofy.

One thing I thought was really interesting is that a lot of people are focusing on the idea of this underground revolutionary group and battling fascists basically and looking for modern day parallels.

And I thought it was really interesting that the two central organizations that you see in the movie are both under the radar, like super secret societies.

Right.

One.

you know, the power elite and to the other one, you know, that even the group that Benicio del Toro leads, sanctuary city, helping undocumented immigrants, the premise is, yeah, these things are there, you know, and it's not shocking.

It's not like, oh, wow, this is a revelation.

It's like,

yeah,

it's just part of the landscape.

I thought that was, I thought that was really interesting.

It was, it is a lot of time, but I think it's, I thought generally it was worth it.

I noticed the New York Times keyed on some of the soundtrack choices, which I thought were pretty good.

Yeah, same.

He always picks good music.

You'll

see Steely Dan and the Charelles in a movie too

often.

Right.

I noticed my son talked to me about Star Wars parallels, which was interesting with the Death Star and the Rebellion.

And even, you know, I said to him today, I said, what was with the bathrobe?

Why didn't Leo DiCaprio take the bathrobe off at some point?

He's running all over the place.

And then I realized he's got the bathrobe on in a ponytail because he's a hippie.

And he kind of looked like Qui-Gon or something in one of the Star Wars.

I wonder if there was a parallel.

Or, or, or.

the dude or the dude

exactly.

Yeah, he's an anti hero like the dude.

He's kind of a stoner.

He's placed into this thing where he has to sort of try to be the hero.

Yeah, I really liked it.

I thought it was good.

Yeah, no, it's definitely I mean, it's going to get a lot of a word of attention.

It's deceptive because those all the movies are going to be at the end of the year.

10 best they're all coming out now.

I mean,

the

next couple of weeks are already movies that

Even this week there'll be movies are gonna be in theaters that are all that's gonna be on everybody's nomination.

Yep Well, it's interesting.

I liked I like the film and I like when I like Paul Thomas Anderson I like him a lot I thought punch drunk love was kind of forgettable loved boogie nights loved hard eight liked Magnolia and I'm kind of with you on there will be blood I was just sort of waiting for I don't know what it was about that movie.

I just thought it was just very okay

Yeah, I would agree.

Yeah, it had Daniel Day-Lewis though, so that's good.

Right.

So, all right, so the other movie I want to ask you about, well, there's a few, but is the movie Hymn?

I know Jordan Peele is one of the producers.

It had a lot of kind of buzz about it, and it just kind of took a nosedive with critics, but you saw it.

I have not seen it.

I don't know that I will, at least anytime soon, but

what

was

the

problem with it or did you love it?

I didn't love it.

I went to see it today, actually.

And a big caveat is I'm not a big horror guy, although I realize, realize the other day that I've seen a lot more horror.

Usually I only see a couple of horror movies and theaters a year.

I watch Wait for Throne to be on streaming or whatever.

It's just not my thing.

It's a very ambitious movie.

Jordan Peele described it as an anti-sports horror movie,

which

You know, as, as

the

low soul Wisconsinite who is not a football fan, I, I was okay with that, you know, and, and, um, I've always said that the deal deal, there's no organization in America that hates its employees or its customers more than the national football

league.

But, um, and, and, and there's a lot of that.

Then it kind of goes in some directions that I didn't quite get.

I guess maybe I'm not smart enough.

Um, and it is.

very grizzly in that sense.

I mean, it makes this point about, you know, the desire for competitive to be competitive and you have to sacrifice everything to be, you know, be a star or sports, whatever, but.

Yeah, it wasn't it wasn't my jam

We have a bottle can we keep you through the news Chris?

I have a couple more movies I want to ask you about and I want it we're watching the same TV show on HBO I want to ask you about that too, but in about a minute Can you tell me what you liked about weapons?

I liked weapons a lot, too And you just said you're not a horror guy, but that that's obviously when you

yeah, I What I liked about it.

I liked I liked the different point of views points of view of the story.

I Honestly, I thought the last

story that they told was the least interesting of the three or four

and

if they had put them all together it would have made that they would have not been as interesting a movie I thought.

It was an innovative way to tell that story I thought.

Interesting.

All right.

Chris Foren is here, folks.

He's going to stick with us through intermission and for a few minutes of Act II, I will give you contest details when we come back and the keyword closer to the end of that first segment in hour number two.

Our question of the night is when you think mediocre sitcoms, what comes to mind?

What show comes to mind?

By the way, Conrad, Aunt Carla is back.

Did you know that?

Yeah, I saw the text.

She kind of ditched us for a while.

No, I'm kidding, Carla.

She says, get to listen to you two again while driving home from work.

That's awesome, Carla.

Thank you.

And we'll read some more mediocre sitcoms, too, in hour number two.

Keep those texts coming.

It's Peach Wabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio

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This is Night Light with Pete Schwabba.

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And now, a guy whose house has an actual wiggle room, Pete Schwabba.

Welcome back to Night Light, ladies and gentlemen.

You might just be here on the best day of the week.

Tuesday has a feel as far as I'm concerned.

It's great to have you.

I am Pete Chihuahua, Conrad Krieger, riding shotgun tonight here as we kick off act two on this beautiful night from gorgeous downtown Green Bay.

And Chris foreign is here formerly from the Milwaukee Journal Central.

How long am I going to say formerly Conrad?

It's like saying Happy New Year three weeks into the new year at some point

after

tonight.

I think we won't say that anymore.

But we will be back to Chris in just a minute.

I have Sean Hannish is coming up at 7.20.

He's the director of Just A Bit Outside, the story of the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers.

Sean is also behind another film that will be hitting Marcus Theaters in a couple of weeks called No Packers, No Life.

The director is Craig Benzine.

Craig has been on the show a couple of times and made this great film.

And you will be able to see it on the big screen very soon, thanks to people like Sean Hannish, who is helping get it out there.

We'll talk to Sean at 720.

Our question of the night is, when you think mediocre sitcom, what show comes to mind?

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Conrad said that 90 show.

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Right now we have a few more minutes with my current guest, Chris Foran.

Chris, we were talking about weapons and...

I really want to ask you, there's a couple films I want to ask you about before we let you go.

One is Highest to Lowest.

I thought that film was coming out in wide release.

I went to see it opening weekend.

It's Denzel Washington and Spike Lee.

It got great reviews and I couldn't find it.

At least not in Marinette, Wisconsin.

And it seems like I would have had to drive to Milwaukee to see it.

Do you know what happened?

Did they pull that at the last minute or what?

No, it was it's it's the it's the world that we live in now is it was produced by Apple TV plus and It had they had a plans for a limited theatrical run for a went-on Apple TV plus and I Was it's a crapshoot.

You're ever gonna get those movies like

I think last week another Apple TV movie The Lost Bus with Matthew McConaughey opened in theaters in Milwaukee and I think in other parts of the state too.

It's on Apple TV next week.

I didn't expect to see it.

When you look at trailers for Netflix movies they'll always say you know

select theaters this date and then streaming.

What they really mean is that it's theaters that Netflix owns in New York and Los Angeles so that they can be a qualify for Oscars and stuff like that.

And so I was surprised that we got highest lowest here in Milwaukee and the Oriental did a great thing and the Milwaukee film runs the Oriental Theater.

They also showed the original Kurosawa movie

that's based on high

and low.

Which is really, it's one of my favorite cars, always.

Yeah, I enjoyed it.

I mean, I, you know, I don't have Apple TV, so I always have to rush to see those if they're going to play.

Yeah.

Um, but that's what happened.

I don't think, I think what happens is that because there's that, that, that layer of local coverage of this stuff is gone.

Like, you know, there aren't not a lot of film critics anymore.

Not a lot of people even covering that stuff anymore.

That it around the state, you know, most states of Wisconsin is one of them.

that they don't, all you see is the ad on television.

You think, well, it's coming to theaters and so no.

And that's, it's a shame, but that's, that is the ecosystem we're in.

It's, it's interesting to me that they're even doing movies on streaming services because you never hear, no matter how good the movie is, you almost never, anybody buzz about a movie on a streaming service.

They always buzz about the TV shows.

Right.

And, you know, and there's, I was looking at the list of movies coming out this fall and

There's a ton of really good movies coming out on Netflix.

The first one, even this next month, House of Dynamite about nuclear warhead coming for the United States.

If you look at their trailers, they say select theaters October 10th on Netflix October 24th.

We won't come to theaters here.

I'm sure

the weird thing about that was I hear what you're saying about highest the lowest, but

It was listed like it was going wide.

That's why I was surprised.

I thought they pulled it the last

Yeah, and that's just that's I did like it.

Okay.

I mean, it was It got a lot of knocks from people who thought that it was kind of a like a stuffy movie for Spike Lee and and With the notable exception of do the right thing I I tend to like the Spike Lee movies that he didn't It's not original stories from him My inside man is one of my favorite

movies

of that

decade.

And I thought you had a great job with Clockers and a bunch of other movies.

He did a good job with it.

And Washington, you know, Denzel Washington is great.

When you get let him do what he does.

He does.

He's great.

Yeah.

Okay, here's a film I did not see Downton Abbey.

My parents who are in their early 80s were split on it.

Now they watch the show.

I didn't watch the show.

I'm probably not going to see the film, but they've got rabid fans.

But I thought it was funny that my dad really liked it.

And my mom was like, yeah, who's fine, whatever.

Tell

people who might be fans of Downton Abbey what they can expect or what you thought of it.

If their fans, if their fans of Downton Abbey, I'm sure that they will enjoy the movie.

It is very much.

It's much more like the movies than the TV show, you know, than the TV show.

I am actually not a huge fan of the guy who created it, Julian Fellows.

I think it's kind of, a lot of it's pretty lazy, you know, the one sister always says the wrong thing and the Mary always puts her foot in it like in a major way, you know, and comes out okay.

And the servants are all upstanding and, you know, and

It was okay.

It reminded me of the, I'm talking about, I know a lot of people think of it as a mediocre sitcom.

I do not.

The show How I Met Your Mother had a, had, it was one of my favorite sitcoms.

And it had a recurring plot line where they were watching a show called Woodworthy, or Woodworthy Manor.

And the big, the big plot that they were building up to is who, who over watered the gooseberry bushes, you know, and that, and that's sort of.

You know, nothing happening is sort of a lot of what happens in this movie, but it's okay.

It's pleasant.

It's very pretty.

Okay.

Um, last thing for you, buddy, the, uh, we're both watching task on HBO, uh, Jamie McShane is a good friend of mine, the guy who plays the top bad guy.

And I think he's great at it.

Um,

and I

like the show.

I do.

I love Mark Ruffalo.

Uh, really like the guy who plays, uh, Robbie.

kind of the bad

guy

and my pal Jamie's great in it.

But what do you what are your thoughts on it?

And also, how do you compare it?

I know the I can't think of the creator's name now, but he also created Mara from East Town, which I loved.

And I thought that was almost a flawless show.

I really liked it.

And I like task a lot.

I don't know if I like it as much as Mara from East Town.

But obviously, we've got a few episodes to go.

What are your thoughts on the show?

Yeah, it definitely fills that HBO thing where everyone's got

Demons that are just overwhelming them and It's bleak and everybody there's there's an informer and we sort of know who it is, but

right

And I think it's really well acted and it's really well written I it's not that I'm not a big fan of a lot of those shows, but I do like I say I like workflow and And I do like

I'm interested to see how they get to where they get to.

Because obviously it's going to resolve it one way or another.

Sometimes

it's so easy.

It is grim stuff though.

Yeah, it is.

Like on a lot of those shows, like in Mare from Easttown, my wife always has to root for someone.

And I'm like, yeah,

I get

that.

I feel like at least they have to be interesting, but ideally I'd like to root for somebody.

But it's also easy to pick out, like when they say there's a leak and task, it's like, well, I don't think that actress would have taken the role.

Had we only known the scene she was in she they got to give her something else to do So it's those kind of clues you can kind of figure it out, but I hope they keep us guessing a little bit.

I do like it so far

All

right, hey buddy, this is fun always fun come back soon enjoy your retirement kick your feet up make an old-fashioned and enjoy those grandkids

I will if they don't wear me out.

It could happen.

I need to get, I need, I had to retire because I need to get in shape to

keep

up with my grandchildren.

There you go.

All right, buddy.

Thanks.

Have a great night, Chris.

That's a thanks to you too.

Chris

Warren.

Thank you, sir.

Appreciate it.

And I, you know, it's funny because Chris told me earlier today he's not.

huge part or he's not a part of the Paul Thomas Anderson cult and there is a cult I think but like I said when his movies are good they are really good and I loved one battle after another so Sean Hannish is coming up at 720 folks right now we're gonna read some text here if I can if I can figure this out we've got how we doing on Texcon what do we have my way behind

we got a decent amount

all right let's tear into these babies huh

So we've got Todd or Billy, I find that funny, from the 414.

He says, this is Todd or Billy.

I think Frazier was mediocre.

Oh, listen, I said Cosby, the Cosby show.

So I like that you said Frazier because I'm with you, Todd or Billy, if that is your real names.

I don't, I never thought, I loved Frazier on Cheers.

I loved that character.

But leading the show, I just kind of wanted to... I didn't like it.

You watch Frasier?

Never seen it.

My dad loves it.

And he always will bring it up and he'll say, well, that one time on Frasier, like he's trying to kind of sell me on it, or he's just making a dig because he knows I don't like it as much as he does.

But I'm with you.

That's a great one.

Semicontroversial, Todd or Billy.

Steve from Florida this Conrad's dad says three his company was a great show, but the spin-off of the Ropers was really bad I did like the original night court, but the new night court is terrible.

I have not seen the new night court Steve I probably won't get a chance to check it out.

There was actually another spin-off of three his company too I remember it might have just been called the Jack tripper show or something he owned a restaurant called Jack's bistro and The girls weren't on the show anymore, and there was like a surfer guy who was like his

I don't know.

Thanks for the text, Steve.

Edward from the 4014 says FYI.

What do you make of that?

Oh, he's telling me how to say Benicio del Toro's name.

He spelled it phonetically.

Benicio, not Benicio del Toro.

You know what?

I've had enough of that guy's attitude.

I'm going to say Benny's name, however I want to.

It's it's your show, you know, I actually kind of knew that and if I said Benicio I Don't know Benicio.

Yeah, that's true.

All right Edward fair enough Monica from Mount Horrib.

She's in the 608 says Melissa and Joey with Melissa Joan Hart and Joey Lawrence.

Yeah, that's bad All right, folks.

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Welcome back to Nightlight.

I'm Pete Schwabba for those of you in downtown Green Bay.

It's a very sad day tomorrow.

The last farmer's market of the season will be taking place on Broadway, but the farmer's market on Washington will continue through much of October, which is good news.

So that kind of means we'll find parking easier.

Conrad's on the phone.

He's calling his mom or something.

Speaking of Conrad's mom, we just got a text from Conrad's mom.

Paula, who says, Joni loves Chachi.

Yeah, that's really mediocre.

That might not even be mediocre, Paula.

But I appreciate the text.

I said earlier, anything that Scott Baio was in is pretty bad.

We have a phone call.

We could take a quick call.

Then

we'll get to our guest, Sean Hannish, who is waiting patiently.

Who do we have?

Ali from the Northwoods.

Ali, how are you?

I'm fine.

You stole my very first guess was Dharma and Greg.

That was the first thing that popped into my mind when you gave the question of the night.

But another one that I could not get into was Wings.

It had some good actors in it.

Tony Haluw and Tyne Daly.

And I also like Kelsey Glamour.

Graham Hurr, even if you

didn't

see

it.

No, a lot of people.

Look, I'm on an island.

I

know Frazier was hugely popular.

Thank you very much for the call, Ollie.

We are kindred spirits with our choice of sitcoms.

But have a great night.

You take care.

You got it.

Thank you very much.

And Wings is so funny because the Simpsons used to rip on Wings.

In fact, one time Homer was watching TV and you heard the TV voice go, next on Wings.

Ah, who cares?

And with that in mind, let's bring on one of our favorite guests.

This gentleman is joining us over the stream from Los Angeles.

He is the director of Just a Bit Outside, the story of the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers, as well as other films Return to Zero and St.

Judy.

He is a Milwaukee native son, Mr. Sean Hannish.

Hey, buddy.

Hey, how you doing, Pete?

I'm doing very well.

So, all right, so I have to clear something up.

This guy, Mark Cass,

who I think I know, emailed me about this movie about the Packers and Japanese fans.

I'm like, but he didn't name the movie.

And I'm like, wait a minute.

Is that Craig Benzene's movie?

Like, I've talked to this guy.

There's no way Sean has a movie about Packer fans.

And then we eventually put two and two together.

So I'm glad this worked out.

And you said last time you were here, you had news about something coming up.

Obviously, this is it.

So very cool stuff.

Thanks.

This

is