Racing Through Stories: From Springsteen to Angels of Dirt(Hour 1)

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Pete Schwab.

Hey,

hey, hey.

Welcome to Nightlight, ladies and gentlemen.

Wow, what a night.

A Wednesday night, middle of the week.

We've still got three more shows to do and I cannot wait to get started here We have an outstanding show tonight folks jam-packed.

I have packed this show with guests We've got a couple civic civic media friends coming by a couple all-stars and a record record producer and filmmaker Who has made two amazing films and produced a lot of great records from some great 90s bands, so

I will tell you all about the guests and our question of the night.

We have had such great listener interaction this week.

I am still playing catch up with texts from Monday night, and we will hopefully get through those tonight, if not tomorrow night.

But we've had, you guys have responded so well to the questions we've put out there that we, I'm still kind of catching up.

So I will get to them though.

That is my vow to you.

I hope everyone had a great day.

Wherever you are, in Wisconsin, it's kind of a gloomy day, but not too cold.

I can dig this kind of weather.

Conrad, I know you get kind of bummed out by the gloomy weather sometimes.

No, no, no.

Oh, man.

If we didn't beat that into the ground enough last night, I'm glad your legs are feeling better no more.

It's not Restless Lake Syndrome Day anyway, so you probably can't.

You

know, they're a little sore.

I did some legs today.

So

did you really?

Yeah, after that, you know, the flair of yesterday, I had to get a workout.

Get out.

Yeah.

Get that dopamine going.

That'll cure that restless legs center right up.

That is Conrad Krieger.

He's working the board tonight producing nightlight and.

Tonight's guests, we've got excellent guests tonight, folks.

Wendy Schneider will be here at 635.

Wendy made a documentary called The Smart Studios about 10 years ago, maybe not quite 10 years ago, about Butch Vig and Steve Marker and how they founded The Smart Studios.

Just a little hole in the wall, kind of red brick building right at the corner of East Washington and Baldwin, right on East Wash, as you're headed toward the Capitol.

So many great records were produced there.

Nirvana's Never Mind, some smashing pumpkins, albums, garbage.

Just a lot of great bands.

A phenomenal documentary.

Her most recent film, which we'll talk about as well tonight, is Angels of Dirt.

And this was a great movie about Motocross and this hotshot motorcycle rider named Charlotte, who, I mean, I guess I can say it now, she lost her life kind of, I want to say it was in the middle of filming.

And Wendy carried on with the project.

She's just such a good filmmaker and has just a great eye and a great knack for storytelling, just like she does with record producing.

So we will talk to Wendy.

She'll be here at 635.

We'll tell you where you can see Angels of Dirt in the smart studios and get caught up with our friend Madison based Wendy Schneider.

And then at 705, David Grant Conrad coming by.

That's true.

From WMAX in Baraboo.

That's exciting.

He's got a really cool thing.

They are promoting Thursday.

They're letting the listener take over the airwaves.

This is a recipe for disaster, I think.

I

mean, but how cool is it?

Very cool.

And very, you got to be very secure to do that.

Yeah,

gotta make sure there's a couple words you can't say.

Exactly.

David will tell us all about this great request-a-thon it's called and it benefits Hope House.

So it's very, it's for charity.

It's just a great program.

They're calling it, David is calling it Purple Thursday.

And that's tomorrow.

So if you're in the Baraboo area, you can be part of request-a-thon.

And it sounds like it's from 7 a.m.

to 4 p.m.

It's a big undertaking.

You know who can participate in that?

My

grandma, Sheila, is in Baraboo.

And

in Carla, right?

Isn't in Carla in Baraboo?

Yeah.

That's a lot of pressure to take over a radio station.

It is.

So we'll talk to David about that really cool event they have going on tomorrow down in Baraboo.

And then at 720, our pal Rich Luccasio.

WRJN's own, he also has big news because he's about to become part of another civic media family too with his on-air talents.

And he's also a wrestling ring announcer.

So he will keep us posted on all things wrestling and the new deal with ESPN and a couple of events coming up.

We'll talk to Rich and we're gonna give Rich a wrestling quiz.

Yes, it took me a while to create it with help.

Just kidding, it took me about five minutes.

All

right.

But it's going to be better than the last cause we did with chat, GBT, because I put some of my words into it this time.

Into your multiple guess?

Yeah.

All right.

Fantastic.

I'm pretty

sure one of my favorites is in there.

That's awesome.

All right.

We've got, this is kind of exciting, folks.

We've been talking about it all week.

This goes through October 3rd.

It's our go for the green and gold text to win contest 2025 here at Civic Media.

of a really cool contest.

Our text-to-win contests are always fun.

You have to have the app to play.

That's the only stipulation.

You have the app tonight between seven and eight, shortly after seven o'clock.

I will give you the keyword you text in on the app, the keyword.

We will text back a response letting you know we received your text.

And this is really cool.

Every day you are eligible to win 200 bucks cash.

That's money that's gonna burn a hole in your pocket, ladies and gentlemen.

And gold jewelry.

I mean, how cool is that?

200 bucks cash and gold jewelry countered, not either or.

That's awesome.

We're not making people choose.

And entering every hour, every day puts you, makes you eligible for our grand prize.

And this is even cooler.

Two club level indoor seats to Green Bay versus Minnesota.

That's football.

It's a Green Bay home game at 12 noon on November 23rd and we're throwing in a gas card to get you there It's like over a $1,500 value.

It's a really fun contest and you can see the green and gold square off against the Conrad purple people purple people leaders, baby So we will do that at seven o'clock.

I will refresh your memory a little bit about the contest and the rules and Then I will give you the keyword and this goes through October 3rd.

You can do it every day

And I wish you luck, because it's fun.

This is a really great contest.

And also, I want to let you know that once you text in the keyword, you're going to get a link back.

If you click on that and sign up for the Civic Media newsletter, Civic Media Today, or follow us on social media, you have extra chances to win.

Do we know how they do that, Conrad?

I'm not up on the mechanics, but it's supposed to enhance your chances.

Yeah.

Who's got a problem with that?

Well, I mean...

Yeah, it's just a better chance with those prizes.

I mean, why would you not want a better your chance?

Absolutely.

I don't know, man.

What would you do with 200 bucks?

Um, you know, I think I'm gonna

pass.

I don't I was gonna say I can't I don't want to say it.

I don't I would with 200 bucks.

I think I just go out for a great dinner.

Yeah, no, that's that's a good idea.

Well, versus what I was going to say.

Which is not family friendly apparently or something.

No, I would go to, you know what I would do?

I'd probably go to the tornado room in Madison again.

Cause I went there with my son Joe about two months ago when we were both in Madison and we spent about $190 bucks.

Just the two of us.

But it had to be, you know, great environment there you said.

Unbelievable.

And great food.

Throwback steakhouse.

The food was outstanding.

The service was outstanding.

It's just, you don't get, it's kind of good service.

Hard to come by these days.

Anyway, you could do whatever you want with the 200 bucks, folks.

We will have more information on the go for the green and gold contest after the news at seven o'clock, and I will give you the keyword shortly after that.

Great show tonight.

Let's get to our nightlight question of the night, Khan.

What do you say?

Let's talk about

the

question.

Okay, question.

Question.

Question.

Pregunta.

Question.

Question.

Okay, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Domanda.

Question.

Questions.

This might be my favorite question I've ever launched on this show.

The boss, ladies and gentlemen, is 76 years old.

Happy birthday to Bruce Springsteen.

Our question, what's your favorite Springsteen song?

And talk about...

was so easy to pick when I was younger because I would pick one of the hits then I found out like the Nebraska album and the Devils and Dust album where he's just songwriting and it's just him and I it took my love for Springsteen to a whole new level as in my opinion the greatest American songwriter he has big anthems and born in the USA glory days born to run all these big stadium rockers

But he's got these beautiful ballads and these little odes and these great songs too.

And I don't think like, like a lot of people will say Dylan is the greatest songwriter and Dylan's great.

But to do what Springsteen does with the big hits and the pop music and selling out stadiums and then also do kind of what Dylan did too.

I just think he's the best.

So, but it's not a contest.

Just tell us your favorite Springsteen song.

You all know, you know, at least a couple of his tunes.

I'm going to say I had trouble with this one, but.

I would probably say Thunder Road.

On social media, I put Thunder Road or Reason to Believe and everything else you wrote.

I kind of capped out there.

So every single song.

Every single song, yeah.

What about you, Ken?

You know, I really like Rosalito.

Oh, we

play that.

It's one of our moppers too.

And it's funny.

I didn't really know any Bruce Springsteen songs, you know, before he made me pull these songs for bumpers and

I

haven't named it Rosalina and I haven't changed it.

Yeah, that's a great version, too, that we have.

I love that one.

So let us know, folks, 855-752-4842-855-756.

What is your favorite song by the boss?

You can also drop us a text or an app text, app message, if you will, or you can drop us a stream comment if you're watching the radio on Twitter.

YouTube or Facebook.

Let us know, and we will read it on the radio.

Be part of the show, folks.

It's always more fun when people participate.

And speaking of which, Con, first of all, before I get to these texts from last night, I want you to have an Instagram soulmate, as I understand it.

Please tell this story.

Yeah, just about 10 minutes ago, I got a request to message me.

I was like, huh, I wonder what this is.

Don't know who the person is.

And it says, the doctor told me I have only one month to live.

I've decided to spend this time traveling alone, quietly saying goodbye to the world.

I have no children.

My only regret is that I couldn't spend this life with you.

Again, I don't know who this is.

Do you text them back?

What are the assets?

I don't mean to be insensitive.

I'm sorry you're dying, but seriously, what would you leave me?

Yeah, she keeps going on saying, you are my first love and you've always been in my heart.

I left you some assets.

I hope this is a gesture brings us together in the next life.

I'm ready to serve very well to this world.

But if you had a month to live, are you texting strangers on social media?

Well, first of all, you know, obviously it's it's not real.

It's someone trying to collect because it's like to collect these assets you have to send your bank information You're something like

that and so there is there is that angle.

Yeah, okay

Yeah, obviously it's like a link and if you touch that link who knows what you're going to

They can take your identity.

Well, I think I'm in love though listen

What if hear me out rom-com pitch?

What if this person is legitimate?

Let's say it's someone who works over at Shriver across the street or it You know at the Haberdasher down here just sees me watch you walking back and forth with your salads Something I want to be part of the Conrad business and they do this and you're gonna pass that up because you think it might be a Russian bot

Yeah, you know I'm okay with not taking that risk to be honest

Okay.

Could be a lot of money.

You know, I can send along your information if you'd like.

No, who could we send though?

That would be fun.

That would be a great practical joke to send somebody's social security.

Yeah, that's great.

I have a spot on my pants too.

I just found out when I was getting dressed to come down here.

So I wore a longer shirt.

Like, you know, we all have pants we like that fit as well.

I put like pasta or something on it and now I got an oil stain.

Well, you know, you probably shouldn't put spaghetti in your pockets.

I'm just letting you know.

I don't see the harm.

All right, we're coming back, folks.

We are going to catch up on tax when we come back.

And oh, man, what else?

Conrad, there's so much going on.

Well, you know, there's Kim Kardashian.

I don't know.

We'll tell you a Kim Kardashian story about how she cheats at poker.

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We are celebrating the boss tonight.

He has turned 76.

To be honest, it might have been yesterday, actually, but either way.

Well, he is 76 now.

He is 76.

Either way, and he is still doing three-hour concerts.

And I keep going to see him thinking, oh, this could be his last tour.

And sure, he just keeps going and going.

So happy birthday, Bruce Springsteen.

Wendy Schneider will be here in just a few minutes telling us about her film, Angels of Dirt.

There is news about that film.

We have David Grant coming up at 7.05 to tell us about a really cool event happening in Baraboo tomorrow where you can take over the radio and make requests or say you don't want to hear something.

It sounds like a really fun charity.

It's for a good cause.

You know, Conrad, did you know that?

Yeah, great cause.

So we'll talk to David about that at 7.05 and then our pal Rich Lucassio will be here in studio.

And there's a reason he's in Green Bay.

We'll find out why at 720.

What was the Kim Kardashian thing?

I kind of didn't get that.

It was just like a meme or a gift, if you will.

Well,

it was a picture I saw the other day.

And it was Kim Kardashian wearing reflective sunglasses, plain poker.

So as you can, she's looking at her cards and everyone around her could get the reflection on her sunglasses and see the cards that she has.

So it was an accident.

I kind of pitched it like she was cheating somehow.

I

mean, she is kind of

cheating because she's letting everyone know.

That's still cheating, yeah.

She's not going to benefit her in any

way.

I don't know who goes into poker games like, yeah, I'm going

to reflective sunglasses.

This is just the strategic area I need is to let everybody else know what I'm carrying, what I'm packing.

Hey, we have a phone call, Conrad.

Yeah, Linda from Waukesha.

All right, Linda.

Good evening.

That's me.

What's up?

Not too much.

You tell me.

Hey dawn this soap on that spot rub it in good and then wash them it gets movie theater butter out come on

Wait now wait a minute.

I have heard that now that you say that and I really appreciate the call.

Thank you What

if I've

already washed them?

Yeah, will the dawn

still?

Really?

I don't know if you've already washed them, but try it anyway Just rub it in really good before you put it in the washer

Oh, that's a great

try.

I love that home-spawn recipe.

What do I owe you?

I'll let you know later.

Play the contest.

You can win 200 bucks.

That'll be my payment to you, Linda.

We're working on it.

All right.

Outstanding.

Thanks so much for the call.

Yep.

All right.

That's Linda from Wagasha.

See that?

People helping people.

That's beautiful.

Yeah.

So, let's get caught up on some text from last night.

Our question last night was, who was your favorite female rocker?

And some of these responses are from when Dr. Kristin Lierly was here last night.

She was on the show here in the studio with me, and she's always fun.

Mary from TOSUS is Conrad.

Hearing the crashes, assume you're not kidding.

Yeah, you know, I just had a flare-up yesterday.

He's okay,

Mary.

But thank you for your concern.

Mary also says continuing, RLS is tough.

Suggests checking with Dr. Omar, compounding pharmacist with Weltopia in Thienesville.

Oh, that's a mouthful.

Yeah, I'll write that down.

Hear him on earls.

What's going on?

Probably has an assist for you.

I don't think Mary thinks we were joking.

I think she actually thinks you were harming yourself.

No, you know, I cleaned up the jelly.

It's all good.

All right.

Thank you, Mary.

Mark from Prairie to Sex says, the Doc Rocks agreed.

Kristen Lyrely is a rock star.

She's got fans all over the network.

Terry from Cross Plains, he's in the 608.

Or she, Conrad.

Hey Pete, I stand with Ollie and have to say Tina Turner.

The flip side of Proud Mary was funkier than a mosquitoes tweeter.

I've heard that song before.

For your information, I've got RLS2.

I've seen Bruce over 50 times.

Wow.

You got me beat by about 40, 43, Terry.

Wow, good for you though.

Listen, he does so much for charity, your money is going to a good place.

In addition to being entertained, he's walking the walk too, so that's outstanding.

He says, Terry from Cross Plain says, my birthday is tomorrow, so close to the boss.

Happy birthday, Terry.

Steady Eddie last night said, Pete, I choose Joni Mitchell as my favorite female rocker.

She is a great songwriter and has a wonderful voice despite her pack-a-day smoking addiction.

She was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1997.

I think Eddie needs his own rock hall, Hall of Fame.

WMDX, John Murray from the 608 listing, he says, this is why I live you, Peter.

I think he meant love.

I'm uncomfortable with that.

You know, you never

know.

Never know.

Appreciate the love, John.

Thank you.

Right back at you partner.

Ross from Crawford County in the 608 says of heart, barracuda and dog and butterfly.

I think that what he was referring, he was probably playing the quiz along with Dr. Liarley.

Thank you, Ross.

John also says Joan Jett and I went to different high schools together, but she's not my fave.

Nancy Wilson was the best female rocker of my time from Hart.

Oh, very well done, John.

Paul from Bayview in the 414 says Pat Benatar.

Yay.

Honestly, I thought we'd get more votes yesterday for Pat Benatar.

Kerry from Tosa says, Blondie, cutting edge and so ahead of her time.

Totally agree, Kerry.

Tyler in Wisconsin Rapids from the 608 says, Ricky Lee Jones has my vote.

On a side note, the dock is coming in hot and Conrad broke all the jelly jars.

That can't end well.

There's a lot going on here last night.

There was.

It's a big mess.

Thanks, Tyler.

Edward.

From the 414, for me, it's a toss-up between Stevie Nicks and Alanis Morissette.

I forgot about Alanis Morissette.

Great text, Edward.

Conrad's mom checked in and said, I love Joan Jett, best female rocker.

Your mom said that with a lot of confidence.

Yeah.

All right, thank you, Paula.

Carrie from Tosa, again, says, and in honor of Rapture, Blondie.

Yeah, Rapture's a great tune.

Jim from Appleton, he's in the 920, says my favorite Lady Rockers are Amy Lee from...

I don't know the band name there.

Sorry, Jim.

Martha Davis from the Motels.

I love Martha Davis.

Only the Lonely.

And what's the other one?

Oh, they had two hits that were huge and they're both great.

Amelie from 7,000 Apart.

That's a great one.

Thank you, Jim.

Totally agree, our friend Amelie.

and Nancy Wilson from Hart, and on and on.

Thanks, Jim.

We've got a few more texts to get to from last night.

We'll do that when we come back.

Wendy Schneider will be here.

We'll get her take on Female Rockers, too, because she's been around her share.

And hey, folks, the Go For The Green and Gold contest, giving you details after the news at the top of the hour.

Peach Waba Nightlight from the Civic Media Radio Network.

I was one of the

first songs I learned how to play on my guitar so it's all like three chords and I've progressed.

Nothing since then.

I'm Pete Schwab, and this is Night Light.

Welcome back, folks.

We have a great show tonight.

I'm gonna tell you, after the top of the hour, I'm gonna give you all the details you need for our Go For The Gold, Green and Gold, Text to Win multi-state contest.

We have a lot of fun with our contests here, and we are gonna deliver some prizes, and I hope that a Night Light listener will be the recipient.

But we'll do all that after the top of the hour.

Rich Lucasio, wrestling announcer.

And on-air personalities here at 720 and David Grant from WMAX in Baraboo is going to tell us about a really cool, just a great thing they're doing down at WMAX tomorrow for Hope House.

So we'll talk to David at 705.

Right now, I'm very excited to welcome my next guest.

She's been on the show before.

She's made award-winning documentaries and award-winning albums, too.

She's got a foot in each artistic platform, if you will, and she is a pal of mine and joins me now for Madison Over the Stream, Wendy Schneider.

Hi, Wendy.

Is Wendy's mic not on?

Wendy, you there?

Maybe she got cold feet.

Stick with us, Wendy.

I'm gonna read a couple texts.

We probably just have like a technical issue or something.

Going back to our text from last night, we're still playing catch up, folks.

Our question of the night last night was, who was your favorite female rocker?

And that's because Joan Jett turned 68.

All these fantastic rock stars aging before our eyes tonight, we celebrate Bruce Springsteen.

Yesterday, it was female rockers.

Tom from New Berlin says, the Tyler Beatle.

Love it.

I don't know who that is, Tom.

I will go to the Google though.

Thank you for the text in the 414.

Mark from Prairie to Sack in 608 says, great to hear you, Dr. Christon.

Yes, I'm glad you got to hear that, Mark.

Christon is always so much fun when she's on the show.

And man, she can just talk about anything.

She's a blast.

So I'm glad you enjoyed that.

Steve from Milwaukee in the 262 says, you got to watch Oliver's last two shows.

They pulled footage from 2006 and footage of Stephen Miller as a college student.

It was hilarious.

If you're not watching John Oliver folks,

He pulls no punches.

He's handled this Jimmy Kimmel stuff really well.

He is a brilliant comedian and his show is very well written too.

So thank you for the text, Steve.

We didn't even get to Kimmel's monologue either tonight too.

He was back in the air last night.

His monologue was spectacular.

He took the time to thank people from the left and the right that supported him in getting his show back on.

He kind of, I know there was this big thing where they wanted him to apologize, but he didn't really do that, but he said he didn't mean to be insensitive to the Kirk family, but it was the other people in the Trump administration he was going after that he felt were being disingenuous.

But anyway, it was a great monologue, and I would Google it.

It's like 17 minutes long, and it was a lot of fun to watch, and I'm glad he's back on the air.

Even if he's not on, in all the affiliates, we'll have to get a count on that counter, and maybe he's only on two markets, but still I'm glad he's on.

I, yeah.

All right, man, a few words.

All right, we are gonna, I think we have, do we have Wendy now?

I believe so.

Oh, fantastic.

Wendy, are you there?

No, we still don't have sound.

Did she hear my brilliant intro of her and all the praise I heaped on her?

Should we just get her on the phone?

Wendy, if you can hear us, we're gonna get you on the phone, but stay on the picture too so we can see each other, okay?

All right, we will get Wendy on the phone and talk about her film, Angels of Dirt.

You have to see it, folks.

If you have not seen Angels of Dirt, I'll tell you where you can watch it after we talk to Wendy.

Hopefully you can watch it now or it's coming out soon.

And we've also got her film, The Smart Studio Story, is outstanding too.

So you definitely want to check out some of her work.

She is a phenomenal director and record producer.

Do we have...

Can we get her on the phone?

Oh, Conrad.

It's funny how Conrad's restless leg syndrome disappears when he gets focused on his work.

Yes.

From our social media today, we got some texts.

Our question of the day, folks, what is your favorite Bruce Springsteen song?

The boss is 76, ladies and gentlemen.

He is six years younger than my dad.

And my dad's got a good voice, but he ain't doing no three hour concerts.

Alan Whitebird says, I'm on fire.

We just heard a little bit of I'm on fire.

Thank you, Alan.

Great tune.

Mike Desatel says, the acoustic version of Born to Run.

Love it, Mike.

I found that about 20 years ago.

And I think I like it better than the, better than the big stadium version where it's all produced and stuff.

Eric Ratsack, lead singer of Ask Your Mother, Stretch.

Chaminin says, too many, but if I had to choose Glory Days or Thunder Road,

Darlington County always liked that one.

Thank you, Eric.

Matt Harper says Glory Days is fire.

Both these guys who've been on the show, we got to get them back on the show.

Matt Harper, the rock rap artist from here in Green Bay, and Eric Rathsack, the very tall front man for Ask Your Mother.

Patrick Mines says, Jesse's girl, having a little fun with the question?

Because it was Rick Springfield, I think, that wrote the song, She Called Me Bruce, because everybody, he had the unfortunate

Issue of having spring in his name.

All right.

Do we have Wendy?

Yes, we

do.

Can you hear me?

Yes Success, how are you my friend?

I'm good, you know, I mean I'm taking my multivitamins being hydrated Love and I love the leaves turning, you know, it's the beginning of

a break from a hot Wisconsin summer, but I'm good.

I'm working hard.

How are you doing?

I'm good.

I'm also taking my multivitamins with a little extra D. So I'm right there with you.

We have to take care of ourselves.

I wonder if I can put this speakerphone.

Can I do that?

It sounds all

right.

Does that sound good, Con?

Okay.

Yeah, that sounds great.

All right, I can hear you.

All right, this is a little bit better.

Fantastic.

Well, how are you?

Like, I know your health is good, but are you, first of all, I have to ask you, do you have a favorite Springsteen song?

Well, there's Born to Run because he says Wendy three times.

Yes.

You know, Born to Run.

But, um, yeah, no, I mean, the album Nebraska State Trooper is like a really

beautiful intense song but that was a record that um took me through like a really intense time of my life so you know yeah there were seven songs on that record and I can't remember the names and then state trooper but yeah that that uh record became really important to um

to me, probably one of the reasons I'm here.

Oh,

that's so cool to hear.

Yeah, Johnny 99, I think was on that record and Reason to Believe.

It's just a phenomenon.

Have you ever heard his another solo effort he did?

It's the Devils in Dust album.

Oh, just unbelievable songwriting.

I would love for you to listen to that and tell me what you think because you're an insider and I would love to hear what.

I'm just from New Jersey.

But you produce music.

Yes, I'm wearing a denim jacket tonight, which is very Bruce Springsteen Yes, I mean I love Bruce Springsteen.

I have so much respect for him and Yeah,

all right.

Well our question last night I'd love for you to weigh in on this too before we get

to

Angels of Dirt It was Joan Jett turned 68 this week So our question last night was who's who is the best all-time female rocker?

Do you have an opinion on that?

No too

many

Well, far too many.

I mean, I could just like Janice Joplin just sprung into my head.

It's women in rock, women performers, women artists.

You know, it's really hard to, to pin down, uh, and, and who's influencing you one morning.

It could be Amy Winehouse or it's, you know, Grace Jones.

It's just really so, um, so varied for me.

I think that, um, you know, people can narrow it down easier than maybe I can, but,

um,

so I don't have an answer.

I can't help you.

Although, um, I will say that Joan Jeff's birthday is my birthday, September 22nd.

Nice.

Yeah, I turned 61 on Monday.

Yeah, and thank you so much.

Yeah.

And I did something.

I had a few people over at my studio here and I called it a poetry potluck.

So everyone that came brought a poem and like every 10 minutes I would whack on a cowbell and somebody would stand up and read their poem.

So I want to just present that to your audience.

It's a really nice, um, it's a nice party.

No, I don't, it's really a theme, but it was a nice activity.

Yeah.

And it's better than,

it's better than pin the tail on the donkey or the spanking machine.

I mean, it's a little more adult.

Yeah.

I don't do shots anymore.

You know, something else every 10 minutes.

This is going to break your heart.

I was in Madison on Monday and I've got tons of favorite poems.

I could have crushed that party.

Well the party was Sunday, so you would have been your poem would have fallen on deaf ears But but if you want to bring your poetry by the studio any time you're welcome anytime anytime I will take

you up in that one of these.

I am anxious

to

see your space there, but So let's let's talk about angels of dirt.

Is there new news?

Can people see it in a broader sense now or are you still in the festival circuit?

No, I finished the festival circuit and then I went and you know just really pedaled my wares around the states and brought the film to races and garages and people that are a bit more connected to the niche community that is flat track and then I got accepted and invited to go to Portugal and bring the film to the Lisbon Motorcycle Film Festival that was in May.

And so I used that to just launch a three week tour in Europe.

So I took the film around again to, you know, real boutique events that, you know, that we're connecting the film with the community that is, that the film resonates with.

Although what I learned over this year and a half was the film really resonates with a lot of people who have nothing to do with motorcycle racing.

So I love that.

I love,

you know this opportunity that I have right now in my life to be conduit for this story as it goes out into the world because my time is transitioning into you know just knocking on more doors and saying watch it watch it because the film and why you know we're chatting tonight is the film was launched on the digital platform a week ago so it's now available for anyone to watch.

Where can we see it?

Which platform?

If you go to, well, it's not inventive, but you get to it.

Just go to angelsofdirt.com.

It's the easiest way to get to the film.

And it says watch now when you

go to the

website.

And for tonight, because you have me on the air, I've put discount code into the film.

So if people go to watch the film, this is tonight only.

You just have to put in Schwabba 35, 35 with Charlotte's number.

And so they will get a 35% discount.

So angelsadirt.com, watch the film and you go to pay discount code Schwabus35.

Oh, that is fantastic.

Well, I'm happy to be a part of that in the password terms.

Tell, all right, so now that you told people where we can see it, tell us a little bit about the film and this great rock star of a motorcycle racer you followed.

While 2006, I showed up at Aztalan in Lake Mills, Wisconsin with a camera to interview young girls who I had seen racing when I was there as a spectator.

And the first girl that I met was Charlotte Keynes.

And I did an interview with her, met her mom and dad, and just found that it was an easy environment to be curious in.

You know, there was Charlotte, there were other girls, I was learning about races.

I was incredibly turned on by the community that I was connecting with.

They welcomed me in, and it really launched

a number of years where I was showing up all the time, um, shooting races and doing interviews.

I took a break from the film in 2008.

Uh, it didn't have much direction back then.

It was very random, very broad strokes, you know, on this canvas of a story that hadn't really developed.

And then in, I worked on the smart studio story.

Hey, Wendy.

I'm going to

stop you

right there.

Let's pick up right there.

We got to do a really short break here and we will pick up.

You're not going to want to miss this, folks, because there's a really, this film is great and you want to hear what she says next because it's probably going to make you go watch the film.

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What better song could we use for my current guest?

Because I didn't realize he said Wendy three times in the song, but you get to walk in the sun with Bruce Springsteen at the end of that song, so that's pretty cool.

Why not?

Wendy Snyder is my guest.

She was in the middle of telling us about her film, Angels of Dirt and the Plot before we had to rudely interrupt her to get to a break, so please continue,

Wendy.

I took a break from filming while I made the Smart Studios story and then picked up in 2016 and really, you know, had to merge together two very different stories of Angels of Dirt.

And so, you know, that took a while.

I had to raise money again.

I had to

you know, figure out a plan to release the film and in 2004, no, 24, 2024, it premiered at the Wisconsin Film Festival.

That was so fun.

I, you know,

I saw that at the Barrymore, I think, is where you premiered it.

And it was so fun to watch it on the big screen like that.

Same place I saw a Smart Studio story, probably eight years before that, and got to interview you and Butch and Steve on stage, which was a blast.

So, all right, so people can see this.

Go to angelsofdirt.com.

There's a promo code.

You can get a discount if you want to watch this riveting documentary about this flat track racer named Charlotte.

Did you do a spoiler or can you tell people what happens or?

I

feel like, you know, it's a journey to film and it's a journey about, you know, one woman's life, but also it's a gateway to a community and a sport that not a lot of people know about.

So I think, you know, watch the film because it's heartbreaking and it's powerful in a lot of ways to...

You know to learn about Charlotte and the the path that she took but also to to get a nod You know or to have you not really gonna not but you know the other women that are in the film or the history of the sport told through stories by you know legends like Mert Lawill who was in on any Sunday and and other participants

It's a bit of a carnival ride, I would say.

Interesting.

Yeah.

So I would say there's a lot out on the film.

You can read the full synopsis.

But I think I want to draw people into just being open-minded and going down the rabbit hole of angels of dirt, if that makes any sense.

So tell us again what the promo code is.

If they go to angelsofdirt.com, watch the

movie

and then they enter in Schwabba 35.

Yep,

Schwabba 35, lowercase s.

Okay, lowercase

s. So it's Schwabba 35, lowercase s for the s in Schwabba.

I would love to hear what people think of the film.

This is a early part of the film's journey.

I've been doing screenings for over a year and now the film is out there being experienced by people.

privately are in small groups.

And I'm really curious what that experience is like.

And it feels really good to be letting it go in that way to, you know, to not be attached to, to it.

I think, you know, we'll still do screenings.

I have a screening in Appleton coming up.

I have another screening in Pittsburgh that I'm setting up for, I think the spring, but

But it's really nice that more people everywhere, anywhere can watch Angels of Dirt.

Absolutely.

You have a definite style with Angels of Dirt and with Smart Studio Story.

It's a very big energy.

And did you have an influence from a documentary standpoint, or is this something you just kind of learned on your own?

I think that it's hard for me to produce long form work.

I think that my projects

when I do them are segments that I tie together.

Usually when I'm working on a film, the rough cut has all these dips to black because I'm just doing these like scenes.

There's a lot of scenes.

Smart Studios was like that, Angels of Dirt was like that.

So I think that's more my style because I didn't...

you know, go to school to be a doc filmmaker.

I became a media producer working for a company in New York under a man named, whose name is Chris Drury, who really taught me about the strength of understanding who the audience was and navigating the emotional weight of a message or of a story.

And so I feel like that influenced me greatly.

I started working for him right out of high school.

You know, so

At 17, I was working in New York for Chris.

At 25, I moved to Madison, and then I started, you know, going to school, but then I opened my studio and I was working at SMART.

So, you know, I think that my messaging does involve dynamics, like emotional dynamics are important.

I wrote all the music for Angels of Dirt, and that was how I contributed to the story being told emotionally.

And that's why my band's probably not playing out.

right now because my energy went elsewhere.

Yeah.

And I do want to say, like, before we wrap up your segment, what I'm learning about now as a filmmaker is this new tax incentive that Governor Ewers has signed.

So filmmakers and film companies should look into the tax, the film incentive, the tax incentive for filmmakers

They can go to Action Wisconsin, I believe.

It's really early in how people are communicating about it, but it's a really...

You know, I want to try and take advantage of that with my next project.

It's a great program.

And it's about time we have that.

We talked about that quite a bit on this show and had people from

Action

Wisconsin on.

And it's, uh, I'm so excited.

And I hope it brings more work here.

And I hope it gets Wisconsin filmmakers to stay here.

And I hope you make another film soon, Wendy, and

come back and tell us all about it.

Next time, poetry, Madison, I'm so there.

Okay.

All right.

Swabba35.

I'll give it another pitch next hour.

You got

it.

Thank you

so much, my friend.

Thank

you.

Wendy Snyder, folks.

You too, thank you.

angelsofdirt.com and click watch now and enter in the promo code Schwabba35 for a 35% discount.

It is a really fun film and she found a great leading lady to be in this film.

And like she said, there's just a lot going on and it's heartbreaking, but it's a great story.

Let's see if we can get through a couple texts here.

Oh, Wendy said Grace Jones for favorite female rocker, Mark from Prairie to Sack.

Was answering the last nice question too.

He says, Grace Jones, who was in the second Schwarzenegger Conan movie.

Well done, Mark.

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