A Nostalgic Night with Mascot Theory (Hour 2)

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A Nostalgic Night with Mascot Theory (Hour 2)

Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Fri Aug 29, 2025

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This is Night Light with Pete Schwabba, your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now a guy who gives edible undies as gifts just because they taste good, Pete Schwabba.

Pete Schwabba (host)

I forgot about that one.

Welcome to nightlight ladies and gentlemen.

Happy Friday everybody.

You have made it to a long weekend and what better way to go into the weekend than to listen to the radio and talk about the things we love in life and the things folks that bring us together.

Movies and TV and music and comedy.

and some sports, all kinds of stuff.

We cover it all here at Nightlight on a nightly basis, and it is so great when you're part of the show, so thank you for being here.

Conrad Krieger is on the other side of the glass tonight.

How you doing, buddy?

Conrad Krieger (producer)

You know, I wish I could say better after that Wisconsin,

Pete Schwabba (host)

huh?

What the heck?

Conrad Krieger (producer)

Game last night.

Pete Schwabba (host)

I mean, I'm not trying to be, like, I don't know a ton.

I just think you went out and got this high-profile coach that was in demand three years ago in year three.

On your home opener, you should be able to handle Miami of Ohio a little better.

Conrad Krieger (producer)

See, I remember the days where we'd get those games and we'd win like 65 to like three or something.

Right.

Hands off to the defense, they played, they played pretty well.

But the offense, even, you know, Billy Edwards, when he was in, it just, it didn't look good.

And I just got disappointed.

I turned off the game when it was three zero at halftime.

So I was like, there's, we should be winning by at least 20 right now.

Pete Schwabba (host)

It's funny.

I didn't turn the game off.

I was following it and reading it I didn't turn it on because it was three to nothing by the time I got home So I'm like why am I gonna I'd rather watch a movie.

I'm not watching this.

Conrad Krieger (producer)

I'm just It doesn't look like we're gonna win a lot of games this year after

Pete Schwabba (host)

tough schedule to yeah, so

Conrad Krieger (producer)

gotta face Alabama which That's gonna be I think they're gonna win by a handsome

Pete Schwabba (host)

amount.

Yeah, we'll see well anyway

not to bring everybody down, but we've got a great show for you tonight.

Get over your Badger Blues and join the fun tonight, folks.

Fun show at 6.35 tonight, WGBW afternoon host, Eric Westfall is here tonight.

Very excited to meet Eric and introduce him to Nightlight listeners.

If you haven't heard him yet, you should.

He does a great job here at WGBW.

Spinning the oldies, it's so much fun to listen to.

He's also an actor, I found out recently.

So we'll talk to Eric about all kinds of stuff.

And then it is Friday, and that means it's a bar band Friday night, folks.

Terry Barr, co-host of Max Inc Radio, right here on Civic Media, or I should say on WMDX Saturday nights from six to nine PM, will be here.

She has got an excellent band.

You see who she sent?

Conrad Krieger (producer)

Yes, and you know, should we not say it?

Pete Schwabba (host)

I don't want to say it because we've talked about this band on the air before.

They're great.

The lead singer has been on the show and has played.

And I'm very excited to have them featured tonight.

And Terry, they have new material that we will be premiering tonight.

It's very exciting.

It's 7.35.

Terry Barr, our Wisconsin music expert, will join the show.

And she does every Friday.

So that will be fun.

We've got, I'm digging this nightlight window-love thing we've been doing.

We've been getting some really fun people.

Announcer

We had

Pete Schwabba (host)

a family that we took a picture of.

I took a picture of earlier today.

It's just been a lot of fun.

Emerson was a good sport last night and if you're wandering by the window folks at WGVW here in downtown Green Bay, there is a chance you might be asked to have your picture taken through the glass so we can post it on social media.

That's been kind of fun.

We have a great question tonight as well.

The phone lines are open as they always are.

Join the show and talk about anything that's on your mind, folks, that we're discussing.

If you have an opinion about a movie or a show or whatever, we'd love for you to weigh in as you guys, you all know the rules, so don't be shy.

If we got to do this first, because this is kind of a cool thing, this is our first, as I mentioned the last couple of nights.

Typically, when we do contests here at Civic Media, they've only been kind of promoted during the day.

But this week, we've got the Nightlight Last Chance Summer Getaway Contest, which is really cool.

You can win a free night at Chula Vista.

That kind of doesn't really make sense.

You can win a free night.

You can win the opportunity to pay big bucks to stay at a hotel.

Of course, it's free.

That's the grand prize, right?

Yeah.

All right.

It's the Chula Vista overnight stay and a dining voucher.

The value is $175.

Chula Vista is a great place.

We had our civic media party there one year, Christmas party.

It was a blast.

It's beautiful.

It's the Wisconsin Dells.

How can you go wrong?

So it's the nightlight last chance, summer giveaway, and we will be giving away the keyword tonight right after our first break.

We will give you the keyword.

All you have to do is text in.

On the app so you have to have the app to play text in the keyword and you are enrolled and eligible to win the free night stay at Chula Vista Good luck everybody.

Let's play.

Let's have some fun.

I we missed out today.

I tried to get You ever you know a cow chip throwing is

Conrad Krieger (producer)

No,

Pete Schwabba (host)

okay, that's You know I should Google that because I don't want to selling an idiot.

I'm not a farm guy, but I think it's when you throw you know what a cow pie is

Well,

Conrad Krieger (producer)

I know the the candy

Pete Schwabba (host)

Should not be a candy named you never had a cow pie

Conrad Krieger (producer)

a

Pete Schwabba (host)

cow

Conrad Krieger (producer)

tail a cow there's a it's like a little

Pete Schwabba (host)

Carmel

Conrad Krieger (producer)

inside and I think there's there's nuts in there too a little bit of corn

Pete Schwabba (host)

Yeah,

Conrad Krieger (producer)

that's you know

Pete Schwabba (host)

I have to Google this quickly because I don't want to give false information.

I think listen.

I'm in the dark on this

Cow chips refers to two very different things.

Dried cow dung used historically as fuel or for soil enrichment.

Those are two very different things.

And in the modern American West, we're a competition called cow chip throwing.

So what is it?

Okay, you're throwing cow poop.

And they have this contest in sock prairie and I call there and every once in a while, it's usually pretty easy to get people to want to come on the radio to talk about their

cool event or whatever, but sometimes people like, they act like you're up to something.

And that's what this woman was like today.

I called and I said, Hey, I'd like to talk to someone.

I love to interview you on the air.

I think it could be fun.

Tell us about your cow chip throwing contest.

And they're like, what are you trying to do?

I'm not up to no good here.

I'm trying to promote your event.

And I think it could be fun because that's something I would never, like I wonder who the person who invented cow chip throwing was.

Talk about board

Conrad Krieger (producer)

They must have a boring day

Pete Schwabba (host)

but I could pick one of them there piles up and throw it yeah, and there you go And it started a phenomenon folks if you will it's it makes lawn darts look healthy So I was unable to to land a guest for the cow chip throwing contest in sock prairie But it sounds fun if you want to go you like throwing around cow poop half hazard Lee go for it I have to do

All right.

What is your favorite music Conrad?

If you were to eat somewhere, what kind of music would you hope the establishment is playing?

Conrad Krieger (producer)

Well, is it live or is

Pete Schwabba (host)

it?

No, I mean, just like on the radio or serious or something Spotify, something like that.

Conrad Krieger (producer)

Like, oh, well, I mean, if I'm just eating at a restaurant and it's, you know, just classic topics, probably or something.

I don't know that because I'm not going to be like listening what I mean, you know,

Pete Schwabba (host)

that's kind of my point.

I, in Marinette, I ate at a Subway recently.

I made reservations ahead of time.

And they had like this heavy metal head banging music on.

I wanted to kill myself.

I'm like, what are you doing?

Are you trying not to have customers?

Like, I love classic rock.

I don't know that I want to hear classic rock while I'm trying to eat like a decent meal.

You know, give me some jazz or some, some cool, I don't know something, but like,

Yesterday I went to the dentist and they were playing country music and I'm not a country music fan.

I'd like some old country But I'm sitting there in the chair waiting for my mouth to numb and I'm listening to these tunes.

I Just got really depressed.

I'm like, I know some people like country.

I respect that I Don't think I necessarily would have wanted to hear rock and roll either.

Give me something easy.

I'm like I'm at the dentist.

I'm about to hear a drill in my head.

I

I don't know.

I think it's crazy the people commit to these.

It should be something ambiguous, I think.

Conrad Krieger (producer)

You know, Morgan Wallin, while you're getting your teeth drilled, it's pretty nice.

Pete Schwabba (host)

You're a Morgan Wallin fan?

Conrad Krieger (producer)

I'm a fan of his chair throwing.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Okay.

He's had some issues.

Yeah.

Whatever.

What do you like him or not?

I don't care.

I don't know anything about Morgan Wallin.

I'm just saying, put on, in one place I was in, I went to get a fish fry about six months ago at this local place in Marinette.

They have the news on.

Conrad Krieger (producer)

Oh, there

Pete Schwabba (host)

we go.

It's like a bar, and they're blaring news.

I'm like, wow.

Are you trying to kill the party, honestly?

Conrad Krieger (producer)

Yeah, I feel like having a beer and listening to the news is not that... Play some smooth jazz, get you in

Pete Schwabba (host)

the mood.

Exactly!

Something to...

Conrad Krieger (producer)

Have a

Pete Schwabba (host)

scotch?

Set the mood, exactly.

That's all I'm trying to say.

I see a question of the night in the future regarding this music choice.

But I think it's time, folks, speaking of questions that we get to our nightlight question of the night.

Announcer

Let's talk about the question.

Pete Schwabba (host)

OK, question.

Question.

Announcer

Question.

Question.

Question.

OK, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Conrad Krieger (producer)

Domanda.

Question.

Announcer

Question.

Questions.

Pete Schwabba (host)

All right, keeping with our nostalgia theme this week on Nightlight, what store do you wish you could still browse in?

Like online shopping is efficient and you still kind of browse You tool around with the cursor you click on this you click on that you can get through things faster, but there's Something I really miss about going to a mall and I'm saying a mall because when malls were the thing and it kind of killed a lot of downtown's I was like I miss downtown's now I miss malls because malls are not as popular as they used to be but I do miss going into a store and just kind of browsing

And now the only place I do it are like secondhand stores.

But I used to love to go into music land and look through the records and tapes, see what's on sale, see what the new releases were, just take all the vinyl and slide it back and forth and check out what was new.

I really miss music land.

So what do you miss?

What store do you wish you could still browse in?

So many.

You remember things remembered Conrad?

You too young for that?

Things remembered?

That was like a little kiosk at the mall, and they sold little trinkets.

I

Conrad Krieger (producer)

mean, you got a bunch of those at every mall you go to.

Pete Schwabba (host)

There's a lot of kiosks, yeah.

But things remembered was like a staple, like Orange Julius was in a lot of malls.

Even the gap, I don't think there are any gaps anymore.

I used to like to walk into the gap.

OK.

Conrad Krieger (producer)

Get a nice pair of jeans.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Get some slacks.

Get some floods.

Get some floods in a nice collared shirt.

There you go.

You can't go wrong with that.

Stereostores, though.

Video stores.

I used to love to go into video stores and just look through the movies.

And you end up walking out with like two or three, because there's a lot I haven't seen, but I do miss video stores.

I miss driving by a place and seeing it and going, there are other movie fans in there right now.

Except I gotta tell you this, this was funny.

There's a family video in Menominee that just closed a couple of years ago.

And I went in there and someone pointed out the Godfather of Green Bay on a shelf.

And just like a couple rows down was a guy thing.

I don't know if they're both Gs or how they were aligned.

And I also co-wrote a movie called The Guy Thing.

So I got two movies on the shelf at this video store.

And I live in this tiny town.

I have no ego.

But the guy says, the woman, he's got two movies right over here.

And she goes, huh, all right, would you like that to go?

She could not have cared less.

I'm like, this is a video store.

Not even a, oh, that's cool.

It was more like, don't annoy me.

You're stupid.

Oh my God, it was very strange.

Conrad Krieger (producer)

You know, I could see you at the video store just standing by those and be like- Standing by my titles, yeah.

You looking for a movie tonight?

Pete Schwabba (host)

Hey, right here.

What do you say?

You looking for a movie?

Just kind of leaning on the shelf doing that.

You

Conrad Krieger (producer)

point

Pete Schwabba (host)

it

Conrad Krieger (producer)

and be like star

Pete Schwabba (host)

Just like a lot of the guys in the adult film back in the adult section.

Yeah, there you go, you know, they had an adult section at family video They did I swear to God they had an adult section.

Conrad Krieger (producer)

I don't think that's right.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Finally pornos for the whole family

All right, folks, we've got the keyword is coming up after this very short break.

Don't go anywhere.

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That's the best kind.

We are coming right back.

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Pete Schwabba (host)

Welcome back to Nightlight, folks.

I am Pete Schwabba.

Great to have you with me.

Conrad Krieger running the board tonight, lamenting his badgers.

Hey, it's the Nightlight Last Chance Summer Getaway Contest, folks.

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Good luck everybody tonight is the last night.

So get those keywords in You texted a picture of a cow pie of the candy

Conrad Krieger

Yes, I can

Pete Schwabba (host)

read and it's

Conrad Krieger

doesn't look appetizing

Pete Schwabba (host)

it does not really you know what it looks appetizing if you don't call it a cow pie If you just call it chocolate with nuts and caramel

Conrad Krieger

Well,

Pete Schwabba (host)

that's not fun.

Well, give it a snazzy name, but here's the thing.

Here's what we have.

We got this great invention.

It's delicious.

It has pecans, caramel, milk chocolate.

You can't go wrong.

Why don't we name it after poo?

Conrad Krieger

You know, it's just a Midwest name.

You gotta find something unique.

No other candies ever.

That name before?

For reasons.

Pete Schwabba (host)

We've got a text that came in last night.

We don't like to miss texts here.

It's from our pal, Bud, who delivers papers between 4 and 6 a.m.

and listens to the rebroadcast.

He says, hey, Pete and Conrad.

In response to your question, I wish the telephone party line would come back.

Oh, that's right.

Last night's question was something outdated that you miss, and it was in honor of the bow tie.

I remember these party lines because they were all over late night TV.

They wanted you to get on the phone.

It's probably just like cyber sex on the phone, I guess.

And you had to make sure someone else in your house was not on the other line because that would be awkward.

But he says, I wish the telephone party line would come back.

When my girlfriend and I were on the phone and we would hear the click of someone joining, we would start our sexy talk.

The person was usually one of my nosy aunts.

Love your show bud from Janesville Like if you knew someone was doing that in your family, would you pick up and listen in?

Conrad Krieger

It would terrify me that reminds me of a I've seen from high mature mother.

Yeah Lily was on the phone with Marshall's mom.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Okay,

Conrad Krieger

and She thought she hung up and then and she didn't and They had sex right there right next to the phone

and her mom just kept listening.

Oh,

Pete Schwabba (host)

they had actual sex with the phone unhooked.

Conrad Krieger

That's different than phone sex, yeah.

She thought it was hung up, but the mom was just there listening.

Pete Schwabba (host)

That is just horrible.

Conrad Krieger

If you just heard something like that, when she'd be like, well, let me hang up right there.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Listen, I've heard a story a friend of mine told me about someone he knew who was hiding in the parents' room.

The family was playing a game or something, or the kids were playing a game, and the mom and dad go in and they go to town.

And this kid is like in the closet listening and probably seeing stuff you never want to see under any circumstances.

Conrad Krieger

And if they don't know anything about it, they're like.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Why

Conrad Krieger

is he hurting her?

What is he

Pete Schwabba (host)

doing?

It's terrible.

All right, so if you have a response to tonight's question, what store do you miss browsing in?

Let's go back to the 80s and 90s and early 2000s.

I say Musicland, Conrad, you got one?

Conrad Krieger

Yeah, I'd probably say Best Buy.

I mean, when I was younger, we'd go to Best Buy.

But they

Pete Schwabba (host)

still have Best Buys.

Conrad Krieger

Or not, sorry.

I meant to say Blockbuster.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Oh, Blockbuster,

Conrad Krieger

yeah, of course.

I was at Best Buy earlier today, so that's why I

Pete Schwabba (host)

said that.

Oh, I really miss when I was browsing at Best Buy earlier this morning.

Conrad Krieger

Yeah, Blockbuster, I miss going to the stores and picking up a couple movies.

It's nothing beats it, you know?

Absolutely.

Totally agree.

Now you just got all of it at your fingertips.

Pete Schwabba (host)

855-752-4842-8557-5-CIVIC.

Text us, let us know what store you miss browsing in.

IC Music Land, Conrad's blockbuster.

John in the 608 says, Terry, in reference to Terry Barr, our pal coming up at 735 says, has a voice like a siren that hypnotizes me every time.

There's something going on there.

John makes it like a nefarious thing.

John also says ever play mud volleyball on a farm property did it serious cow pie mud slush never again.

Yeah, that sounds like a really Not a very fun time.

I will say Tom from New Berlin says Pete no matter no matter us stupid humans have existed we create competition

Conrad Krieger

I Mean you there's everything you could name one thing and there's probably competition from

Pete Schwabba (host)

it

Absolutely.

John also says, I could listen to you and Conrad at the dentist.

Food for thought.

Oh yeah, put on the nightlight podcast, which you can check out at civicmedia.us.

That's a great idea, John.

I think I'm gonna suggest that to my dentist.

He says, like elevator music, but informative and fun.

That might be the best thing anyone's ever said about nightlight.

Love it, John.

Thank you, buddy.

John also, John again, his thumbs are busy tonight, people.

He says, ever go behind the curtain at a video store.

Peaked in once, made eye contact with a dude, ran.

I remember I did that once.

I was in the adult section looking for some movies for a bachelor party.

I really was, but I felt like I had to over explain to the guy while I was there.

I was like 23.

I felt so stupid.

I know what John is saying.

You make eye contact with a guy.

You don't want him to start talking to you like, hey, what do you like?

You just don't want to do that.

Looking

Conrad Krieger

for recommendations.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Please help me.

Let's put our heads together here.

Conrad Krieger

Come up with some ideas.

Pete Schwabba (host)

The keyword tonight.

Dave, you might want to retext.

The keyword is dine, D-I-N-E.

Dave Cunish on the stream says, Lormons, that is a Marinette department store that was like my friends, the Boils own that store or were one of the owners.

And I always say they were like the Marshall Fields of Marinette, Wisconsin.

But you could say that Marshall Fields is the Mormons of Chicago and Milwaukee, but that's a great one, Dave.

Thank you.

He also says, good fellows, best in town, in Twin Cities, best something.

I was the type I can see.

He tried to type it again, and it still said the same thing.

Can you understand the comment?

I think I maybe know.

Alright, we'll noodle it.

We're coming back with Eric Westfall, new on-ear host here at WGBW, and we're going to read some of your texts and have a blast.

It's Nightlight with Pete Chihuahua on the Civic Media Radio

Conrad Krieger

Network.

Eric Westfall

Welcome

Pete Schwabba

back.

This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba.

I am Pete Schwabba.

It is great to have you with me, folks.

We've determined that Dave's word was porn, is what he was trying to say.

It's a place called Good Fellows in Marinette, and he misses browsing in there because they had the best porn.

in the Twin Cities, which is also, it's not Minneapolis, St.

Paul, people very arrogantly call Marinette Menominee the Twin Cities.

So, and that's where Dave, Dave's a native, so I knew what he was talking about.

He says, oh, in regard to the Cow Pie Festival, it's a big festival.

They used sun-baked poop, low moisture, but not too dry, or the poop gets, I can't even say that word, I'm so grossed out right now.

Ronnie Daniel Barry sports highlights says happy Friday.

Hello everyone.

Hello, Daniel.

Great to have you and Dave Cooney says it's a pot shop now the family video that sold pornography in the back like every family video sure should Is now a pot shop.

There's about 12,000 pot shops in Menominee, Michigan

So all right, I'm excited now.

We're gonna pivot here and get to our first guest of the night.

He is new meat here at WGBW, but he's not new to radio.

But if you listen throughout the day, you probably know this guy.

And if not, you're about to meet him.

His name is Eric Westfall.

Hey, buddy.

How's it going, Pete?

It's going great.

I love that you came in to the studio.

Eric Westfall

Yeah, yeah.

Pete Schwabba

That's huge.

Eric Westfall

Let's assume you don't live in too far away.

Oh, yeah, yeah, that's not too big.

Well, and you know, I mean, it's nice to be over on this side of the glass.

So usually I'm sitting in Conrad's spot over there.

And I try to get out of there fast enough so that he can get everything ready.

I know you guys have a little more preparation than I have.

I get the music doing all the heavy lifting for me.

Pete Schwabba

Do you?

Well, I got a lot of questions to ask you about radio.

Eric Westfall

I think

Pete Schwabba

you have a really cool gig and I'm excited for you and Dan was on the show last night Dan Marcus and we had Laura on last week So all three of you guys are new here and it's it's it's nice that you have a working relationship already You guys already knew each other.

Yeah, you all obviously love oldies.

So that's exciting Tell us First of all, I have that most importantly.

Do you have a story you missed browsing in Eric?

Eric Westfall

That oh, yeah, I heard you talking about that.

So I was trying to think a little bit when I was younger at Prangie way Oh pretty one that I liked over this would have been in Appleton.

I guess I grew up over in Greenville at the Appleton Prangie way on College Avenue Because I video games and stuff like that.

They always had sales on and I

Try to talk my mom into getting me something.

So I miss Prangie way and then as a little bit older, you know as junior high and high school Eric in the mall chess King

Pete Schwabba

I Love it.

They had I forgot about chess

Eric Westfall

King.

Yeah, are there no more of them?

Oh, I don't think so.

I couldn't tell you the last time I mean, I don't really go into malls anymore.

Yeah, but I don't

Pete Schwabba

I don't think chess Kings around we had a limited

like Marinette has the Pine Tree Mall, it's still there, but it's not as exotic as the Appleton or Green Bay or certainly not Milwaukee or Chicago, but we had a Prangie way.

And I remember when we moved to the area when I was in junior high and my dad was pointing out these Wisconsin stores we had never heard of, he said, that's a Prangie way.

That's kind of like Kmart, that's Prangies, that's a little more upscale like Marshall

Eric Westfall

Fields.

That's how

Pete Schwabba

he described, like a 12 year old's

Eric Westfall

gonna

Pete Schwabba

shop at Prangies.

And I have another story about the Prangie family.

One of the sons,

was running the Marinette Store.

And I had a holiday gig where I was trying to get people to sign up to donate money for kids.

And he said, ask people if they wanna buy an ornament and then the proceeds go to charity.

But I came out of the gate swinging and I said, do you feel like helping a needy child this holiday season?

So they had to say, if they said no, they felt terrible.

He pulled me aside, he goes, yeah, let's not approach people like that.

You're going

Eric Westfall

for the- Maybe back off on that hard side.

Going for the juggler, kid.

This is so funny, you said prank away.

Well, prank.

was what I actually worked at.

Prangies in high school in the men's fashions to men's men's wear departments wearing all your chest chest King clothes No, you had to wear like they have made why don't you our actual suit and tie?

Yeah, it didn't have to be from Prangies, but you know chest King was a little bit too fast It was very 80s.

That's true.

All

Pete Schwabba

right, that's great So how's it going here at WGBW what I don't know like what kind of stuff are you doing on air at your last gig?

You're so good at this, I assume it's not something new to

Eric Westfall

you.

Yeah, so previously, I worked for six and a half years on another station here in Green Bay.

And Laura used to be right across the hall from me.

She was in the mornings, and I would see her usually when I was coming in.

She was on a different station, but we were the same company.

And they decided to make some changes as radio companies do.

And it's interesting.

been in this business about 20 years now, and I've lost my job numerous times.

But previously, it was always like, oh, well, you are a live night guy.

There's no night guys anymore.

That's going away.

That's sad.

Yeah.

Or the station is making a format change, and so we're going to get rid of their staff.

OK, I can understand that sort of thing.

But I was doing very well.

And so I was getting ratings bonuses.

And I had some endorsements and things like that.

Those aren't things that if you're doing terrible that you get.

So it was a corporate decision made by somebody in Georgia or wherever.

And it happened to people all across the country.

So it didn't really matter how good I did.

But I was very excited though to get the call.

And I was actually thinking of getting out of radio.

I was like, man.

Fool me once, shame on me, fool me 15 times.

Pete Schwabba

But I've heard, like, you hear of these legendary radio guys that have all been fired multiple times.

Eric Westfall

Oh,

Pete Schwabba

sure.

It just comes with the territory, right?

And it's not even necessarily that you're doing anything wrong.

Eric Westfall

Yeah, oftentimes it is.

I mean, it can be any number of things.

Sometimes, and I don't know that that happens as much these days, but sometimes it could be a personality clash, you know, with the management or whatever.

Pete Schwabba

Eric Westfall is my guest.

You can hear him afternoons here at WGBW playing the oldies and he's had a long career in radio.

And it's funny, you were talking about how at night it's different.

I used to love listening to the radio when I was a kid and knowing that there was somebody there playing songs and connecting with the audience.

And the first time I did radio, I was trying to get, I had a student show at DePaul University and then I came home to Marinette in the summer.

And the radio guy there, Jim Callow, gave me a job from 2 to 5 AM.

Eric Westfall

So

Pete Schwabba

I show up at 1.30 and the other guy that was there from like 10 to 2, he's got like a Colt 45.

He's sitting back smoking a cigarette and just playing tunes.

I'm like, look at this guy, man.

He's got

Eric Westfall

the life.

He's

Pete Schwabba

just chilling.

And that just isn't the case anymore.

Eric Westfall

No.

Automation pretty much took care of that.

In each market, so here in Green Bay, one station does have to have somebody there.

all hours of the day.

But on air?

I mean generally they will have them be an on-air person.

They'll have them do it live because they might as well.

You gotta have somebody be there.

There's always somebody wanting to cut their teeth with that 12

Pete Schwabba

a.m.

to 6 a.m.

shift.

Absolutely.

So how did you, what made you want to go into radio?

Like how old were you?

And what made you go, I gotta do this?

Eric Westfall

I was actually a little bit older than most people.

Dan, I think he got into it just out of high school, maybe even in high school.

I was a little bit older.

I had sort of, I went to college at Lawrence University and I did a little, I was in the studio there a couple of times, but nothing really.

But I was a theater.

person.

And so I like the performing aspect of it.

Yeah, you know, acting and all that.

And so I really liked the performance element.

And when I graduated from school, I was actually going to become a teacher.

I was certified to become a theater teacher.

And, you know, they should probably put you in front of the kids.

Like day one instead of like at the end and I just I love kids I have so much respect for teachers now after going through that but I just I didn't really want to you have to do so many things that has nothing to do with teaching and I just that performing aspect and I thought well you know radio seems like and at that time I was living down in Milwaukee and Gateway Technical College in Kenosha so I drove three days a week to from Milwaukee to Kenosha taking classes there

to get that associate's degree.

I already had a lot of credits transfer over, but get that internship and all those things that are how you get started in the business.

So I wanted to make sure that I did that.

And in Milwaukee, obviously, is a very large market.

So I interned on the country station there at the time, FM106.

You know, I knew eventually I would have to leave the area if I wanted to get on the air.

And yeah, I went, you know, it wasn't in country music.

I got my start and I heard you earlier say you didn't care for country.

I'm not a big fan either.

So I try actually working on a country station and nothing to learn all these artists names and, you know, country USA and all that stuff and be excited about that.

It was tough, but there were a few artists I liked.

But anyway, so.

Yeah, I moved up to Wausau and that's where I was the night guy there and then went to Steven's point after that and did mornings on the station that then decided to flip and then I was in Shano for a little while and I have family there and a lot of good people in Shano but I would never work for that small of a market again.

They broadcast parades on the radio in Shano.

I never thought that was a thing before but I'm like, a parade is a very visual event.

You can't really

get a lot out of it on the radio, but they sold sponsorships.

So you make it work?

Yep.

Wow.

Look at this marching band now.

Oh, they must have 30 kids out there.

And you're

Pete Schwabba

like,

Eric Westfall

if only

Pete Schwabba

I was playing country music again.

And listen, I'm not a hater.

I really don't dislike country music.

I do feel the new country has kind of a...

kind of a sound to it.

It's almost like a homogenization sort of.

I like when they genre mix.

I think that's cool.

But just pure new country.

I just give me the old stuff.

And if it's on too long, I'm just like, we got to change this up because they never really rock.

And they never it's always kind of, I don't know.

Eric Westfall

Yeah.

No, I know what you mean.

So

Pete Schwabba

what is your favorite kind of music?

Like, I assume you like oldies, but yeah, I do like oldies.

Eric Westfall

I enjoy that.

Yeah.

And I first

you know, listened to oldies when I was, you know, late 70s, early 80s, when it first became a format, that's what my parents listened to, because obviously it was the music of them.

Before that, it was country.

Back when it was country and western.

And, you know, Willie Nelson and all those, and then the oldies came up.

But me personally, you know, I actually...

I'm a pretty big fan of bluegrass music, which especially like the really like upbeat and give me banjos and fiddles and mandolins and love and a good tempo and yeah, I'm usually

Pete Schwabba

pretty happy.

I love that.

I just noticed, excuse me one second.

Conn, did you notice people are texting in the word fine?

Eric Westfall

Yeah.

Pete Schwabba

All right.

Sorry, folks, the keyword is dine, D-I-N-E.

I thought that's how I said it, but if I.

If I misspoke earlier, I apologize.

But the keyword tonight is dine, D-I-N-E.

And that's why I said you can't spell diner without dine.

But like three people texted and fine.

Can they be eligible or...?

Well, just text and dine and then you're... Thank you for the legal advice Conrad.

Does he have a great voice or what?

Like Eric should just be like... Did somebody ever tell you you should go into radio?

You got that

Eric Westfall

voice.

Yeah, honestly, actually, how did I forget this?

So my first like...

taste of radio was in forensics in high school.

I completely forgot.

So I went to Hortonville High School, go polar bears, class of 92.

And our forensics coach, Cliff Morton, he came to me, it was my sophomore year and they had a brand new category called radio speaking.

And basically, you would pull some news stories out, and then you'd put them together.

They wanted you to put a commercial.

Sometimes they would give you a little newspaper clipping, and you had to create something in there, kind of the middle, then some weather, some sports, and put it all together with your transitions.

And he said, I think you'd be good to give this a try.

Prior to that, I usually did some acting categories.

And I said, sure.

And the first one, man, I got into the power round, took second place.

Oh,

Pete Schwabba

sweet.

So you're like, OK, I think I could do

Eric Westfall

this.

Yeah.

And so then I ended up coming back to it years later and like, oh, that's right.

I kind of enjoyed this.

Just enough to suck you in

Pete Schwabba

to this career.

All right.

Eric Westphal is here, folks.

He is the.

afternoon on Arrow host here at WGVW.

Every day you can hear him from two to six.

So definitely tune in if you haven't already.

We're coming right back and we'll do the keyword again just to be safe.

If you haven't heard the keyword yet, folks, it is coming up.

I'm Pete Schwab.

This is Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Conrad (regular contributor)

Welcome back.

Happy

Pete Schwabba (host)

Friday, everybody.

This is Pete Schwabba, and you've got Night Light here on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Our question of the night is, what store do you miss browsing in?

Take yourself back, folks, to the 80s or 90s or early 2000s.

I know there's still malls, but what about those stores that don't exist anymore?

I said Musicland, Conrad said Best Buy, because he hadn't been there since this morning.

And then he changed his answer to Blockbuster.

Do you have one, Eric?

Did you give us one?

Yeah, I was praying you went

Eric Westfall

in Chest King.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Yes, of course.

Eric Westfall

Chest King.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Chest King for a mall store.

I love it.

That was great.

Steve from Florida says, I missed the old Five in Dime store Woolworths.

Oh, that's a great one.

best burger fries and milkshake located in every downtown.

Woolworths had that great lunch counter.

And Mormons and Marinette had that too.

They had, I love those stores where they were like, they had stereos, men's clothes, food.

Yeah, even Kmart.

Eric Westfall

Even Kmart.

Yeah,

Pete Schwabba (host)

those were all great stores.

Everett from Sun Prairie in the 262 says, what store do I miss browsing at?

Say it with me, the exclusive company.

Is that American?

No, what was

Eric Westfall

that?

The exclusive company was Mr. G. Right down just across the river, just off of Broadway, was the Green Bay store.

There was one in Green Bay, there was one in Appleton at Northland Mall.

The stereo stuff, right?

Yes.

Music, but then also nicer stereo stuff.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Nice.

That's a great one.

Thank you, Everett.

Here we've got that Melissa from Willy Street.

Hi Pete.

I think I know why John really likes Terry's voice because I have a deep voice as well.

Have a good night.

Oh, thank you.

Melissa, you have a good night too with your your deep sultry voice that your husband seems to love and one more here before we get back to Eric Judy from East Troy Says my email.

Oh, I'm sorry.

I'm reading the wrong thing Judy.

I almost gave Judy's email address out in the air She would have become very popular.

Yeah

Getting emails from everybody.

All right, my guest is Eric Westfall.

He is the on-air host here during the afternoon at WGBW, and he is a radio veteran.

I have to ask you, I want to get into some of your acting stuff too, but I hope you can stay through the news if that's okay.

Eric Westfall

Yeah,

Pete Schwabba (host)

man, I got no place to be.

Oh, that's, I'm sorry to hear

Eric Westfall

that.

He really squeezed us into his schedule here,

Pete Schwabba (host)

Conrad.

I

Eric Westfall

took the

Pete Schwabba (host)

whole

Eric Westfall

evening off

Pete Schwabba (host)

for you.

We'll make it a miniseries.

What is your favorite part of the day?

Because I haven't been in radio as long as you, and I know I have kind of a different show here, but a lot of my day is prep, which I don't mind.

But for you, what is your favorite part of your radio day?

You're on the air.

I'm sure that's fun, prepping, research, picking songs.

What's the best part of

Eric Westfall

it?

Yeah, I'm on the air part, although I really, and you know, we haven't gotten to do too much of that yet since we're still new.

But and it's probably because of the the actor and me.

I really like getting out in the public and and seeing the people out at events and things like that.

OK.

But on air is fun because the one thing you're one person, you know, in the studio and you're making.

all this stuff and I find myself every now and then I will, you know, when the mic is cracked, I'll start forgetting, oh yeah, there's people out there listening and I'm almost like I'm talking to myself and then I got to kind of catch myself and oh yeah, you know, make sure this is interesting.

Right.

At the very least, brief

Pete Schwabba (host)

and interesting.

That's great.

And you mentioned before, you said you almost got out of radio because you had just lost a job you liked.

What would you do?

Like I feel like,

I've kind of been in show business in one form or another my entire adult life, and I've just accepted this is what I do.

If I'm unemployed, I will eat canned soup, whatever.

I'm not doing any, I'm not going to work in a store.

You know,

Eric Westfall

are you

Pete Schwabba (host)

like that?

Or are you like, what else would

Eric Westfall

you do?

Can you do something else?

Well, I will tell you the things that I was looking at.

as I mentioned before, liking to get out and amongst the public.

And, you know, now we have to wear a lot of hats and radio.

There aren't people doing all the different things unless you're, you know, really, you know, big time and some of the big markets, New York City or something.

So, you know, marketing and all that stuff show and relationship building and, you know, networking.

And that's really all a part of it.

People don't.

realize that.

And those are skills that, you know, I was able to develop.

And so I was really looking at jobs that would help that show.

I'll even

I applied at the Green Bay Botanical Garden.

Oh, nice.

Nice to be there, a membership and development coordinator.

Maybe if the person who got the job is listening, I hope they're doing good.

But I came close, but something like that, where I'm still involved in the community and something that I believe in and help making it good.

I'm really a firm believer.

And I chose to become the Green Bay.

It was a city I was born in, but it's not the place I've lived all my life.

And I want to do something that makes it better.

Pete Schwabba (host)

See, that's really interesting you say that, and I take back what I said before, because I think maybe I could work in like, like Greg Vadney is on the show Tuesday, and he's the director of the Roar West Museum in Manitowoc.

I think I could work in a museum.

Eric Westfall

Yeah.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Or some cool place where you're like, you have stimulating things around, maybe?

Yeah.

No, I

Eric Westfall

don't

Pete Schwabba (host)

know.

What about you,

Conrad (regular contributor)

Con?

I mean, a museum would be cool.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Yeah.

Conrad (regular contributor)

You could be like Ross from French.

SPEAKER_??

Yeah.

Pete Schwabba (host)

You know.

It's probably nothing like that, right?

Depends on the museum.

You're the guy that gets to build the dinosaur displays.

That's like the Primo Museum.

Conrad (regular contributor)

Oh, yeah.

That's the coolest thing.

Pete Schwabba (host)

That would be a great one, though.

All right, so Eric Westfall is here, folks.

We'll have more with Eric.

He's going to tell us all about the Evergreen Theater and some of the cool stuff he has going on as a local actor as well.

And if you are interested in that kind of stuff, you want to stick around and hear it.

I'm curious myself.

Since I've been doing the show, Eric, I've never lived in Green Bay or really any other city other than Marinette in Northeast Wisconsin.

And I'm amazed at how many creative people there are here, how many actors, how many great bands, how many filmmakers.

So I'm excited to talk with you about that too after the after intermission here.

John Murray in the 608 says TGNY was an awesome department store in Freeport, Illinois.

Tons of best hobby and toys.

Mom loved it too.

TGNY that must have been out like a local.

Things that sound familiar?

No.

That's fine.

It's fine.

Judy also says, did you get my email address that I sent?

Yes, Judy.

I almost sent it to the entire listening public.

So I apologize for that.

And then Everett and Sun Prairie says, Pete, I did the 10 p.m.

to 2 a.m.

shift for a couple years at WWSP.

I think he means UWSP in college.

can confirm just playing tunes, a couple beers, as well as other enjoyables.

We don't need to get into that.

And just enjoying sharing the stuff we dug and with an audience of drunk college kids and other random local college radio supporters, really good times.

Everett, it was a really good time reading that text, so I can imagine actually doing it was very cool.

So thank you.

Keep those texts coming, folks.

We are coming back for Act 2 after intermission.

Eric Westfall will be here.

It's a bar band Friday night.

Terry Barr is coming up at 7.35 with a great band with new material.

It's Pete Schwab at Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio

Conrad (regular contributor)

Network.

Announcer

Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay, this is Night Light with Peach Wabba.

Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now a guy who doesn't believe in sex after marriage, Peach Wabba.

Peach Wabba (host)

Welcome back to Night Light, folks.

Everybody was out smoking them if they got them.

Well, welcome back.

We are kicking off act two here at Nightlight on this Friday pre-long holiday weekend show.

Hope everybody's in a great mood.

It is great to have you here being part of the show.

We got a lot of texts we'll get to.

We'll do that soon.

If you're just joining us, our question of the night is name a store or what is a store to make it an actual question that you miss browsing in.

Stores that are no longer around due to mall closings or whatever.

I say Music Land.

Conrad said Blackbuster.

Blockbuster.

Bust blocker.

That sounds bad too.

And our guest here who in the studio is Eric Westfall who is the afternoon host here at WGBW.

You said Prangie Way.

Great choice.

Eric Westfall (guest)

Yeah, Prangie Wayne and Chess King.

I thought of another good one that was a fun one at the mall.

You know, if you didn't really, if you had to be there, because you know, mom was doing some shopping, but you wanted to kill some time.

Spencer's GIFs was awesome.

Oh, yes.

That's a great one.

Yeah.

Peach Wabba (host)

They're still online, aren't they?

I think so.

It's like right up there with Brookstone.

But let us know.

That's our question of the night.

Be part of the show.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2-8-5-5-7-5 Civic.

Also, if you have not gotten your text word in tonight, folks, there is still time.

This is the Nightlight Last Chance summer getaway.

As you know, we have just a little bit of summer left here, and we are doing this really cool concert.

All right, concept.

What is it?

Conrad, it's a contest.

Yes.

I can't make mistakes like that with an actual pro radio person sitting next to me.

It's

Eric Westfall (guest)

very, it's very

Peach Wabba (host)

emasculating.

Eric Westfall (guest)

You're the pro.

I don't have somebody else like doing all the... You don't have a Conrad?

No.

Oh, come on.

I got to do all the heavy lifting myself.

You know, we came in here and I don't know, people can't see it because it's out of camera range.

I mean, there's like a whole food spread that he... No, I'm just kidding.

Conrad whipped up a

Peach Wabba (host)

quiche?

Conrad's like, please hire me away from this monster.

But we do have the nightlight last chance, summer getaway.

And our keyword is, for tonight, is dine.

D as in David, I-N-E, dine as in diner.

What other examples can I give?

I gotta make sure people understand that.

Dine.

Like...

Like fine, but with a D So text that in on the app folks and you're eligible to win an overnight stay at Chula Vista and we're even throwing in some free grub It's worth 175 bucks and it is all yours if you are the winner.

So good luck everybody.

You still have time And

Announcer

all

Peach Wabba (host)

you have to do is send a text What else do we say Conrad?

What else do we miss?

What do I need to recap Conrad's bummed well

Conrad Greger

bangers, you know

If you haven't tried it yet, go out, if you're in Wisconsin, go out and grab a cow pie.

Peach Wabba (host)

The candy.

The candy, yeah, you gotta clarify that.

Go out and eat cow dung, folks.

My name is Conrad Greger.

Yeah, we covered that too.

We got some texts, we'll get to those.

Let's do steady eddy.

Steady eddy texted in early tonight, and we usually, I'm under the gun on Fridays to get through a steady eddy text.

But we'll do Steady Eddie right now.

He says, Pete, I miss Kmart.

I would go with my dad on a Saturday.

Oh, that's great.

Conrad Greger

It's not steadfast Edward tonight.

Peach Wabba (host)

No, it's not.

Kmart is not highbrow like that.

Conrad Greger

But Kmart, are there any Kmart's left?

I haven't seen one in super, super long time.

Peach Wabba (host)

Yeah, if there is, I couldn't tell you where.

Because the one of Menominee just closed like two years ago.

So that made me think maybe there are still some out there, but.

Anyway, either way, Everett from Sun Prairie, some clarification on a previous text.

He says, the exclusive company was a small record store chain rumored to be a Chicago mafia front.

How do you like that?

I went to the Blue Mountain Road and Brown Deer Road locations in Milwaukee.

The question is Everett, did you ever whack anybody?

That's what I want to know.

I'll sneak one more in here before we get back to Eric Tyler from Wisconsin Rapids.

Also, Drucker's general store in Hooterville.

See, Tyler likes to get these cheeky things and I think he always has some kind of innuendo.

Pickles in the barrel, another one, or the best.

I've never heard of that.

Have you heard of Drucker's, Eric?

Eric Westfall (guest)

Well, Sam, you know, I believe Sam was running it up until his death a few years back.

Sam Drucker?

Yes.

Are you playing a joke?

Who is that?

No, that's from the, that's from the TV show.

Petty Go Junction or whatever, yeah.

Well, actually... Is that what his text is referring to?

I'm pretty sure.

Tyler, how old do you think I am?

So it would be, and there's a couple shows that use that.

They use Druckers.

Well, Sam Drucker's, Drucker's general store in Wooderville.

All right.

I love it.

Peach Wabba (host)

Hooderville sounds like a nice little Berg.

Dave says, I don't want to get censored.

He was the one that typed in porn, but he spelled it all kinds of different ways earlier.

And then he also said tempo, which was a store in Menominee, Michigan that was like, I always confused it, like when targets came out, I thought, oh, they're bringing back, oh no, that was tempo.

Kind of the same department store, but have you guys ever heard of the tempo?

No.

All right.

It's a Marinette Menominee original.

All right, my guest in studio folks is Eric Westfall.

You can hear his work here on WGBW afternoons from two to six, spin in the oldies, break into the news, do in time and temp.

Yeah.

Right?

That's a radio thing.

Well, yeah, but there's

Eric Westfall (guest)

other people that do that.

So I don't, I don't have to.

So nobody can.

Yes.

Yeah.

Nobody can blame me though, you know, if it's the weather's bad.

I didn't give the forecast.

Conrad gives a mean five day forecast.

I

Conrad Greger

do.

I look out the window and.

Just say how it is.

It's more like a five-second forecast.

Peach Wabba (host)

He can't predict the future.

All right, so you're also an actor, Eric.

We covered your radio career more or less.

People can hear you on WGBW every day.

I was saying this to Dan Marcus last night.

Like, oldies, like, I would imagine the ratings are gonna go through the roof because who doesn't love oldies?

You're playing nothing

Eric Westfall (guest)

but hits.

Yeah, and nobody, there's not another place.

You can get that unless you go online or get Spotify or something like that and pay money for it.

Right,

Peach Wabba (host)

exactly.

All right, so tell us about, you're also an actor here in Northeast Wisconsin.

How did you get into that?

And tell us about some of the play, we'll get to the one you just talked about in Abrams.

I think

Eric Westfall (guest)

that sounds

Peach Wabba (host)

really cool,

Eric Westfall (guest)

but you've

Peach Wabba (host)

done Shakespeare and everything, so tell us about

Eric Westfall (guest)

that.

I have, you know, and I think this goes, I probably, this started when I was a little kid, like I would wear like,

Different clothes and that I would keep costumes and then create characters like my mom would come home from work And suddenly I'd be some little man or say you know so I think that's where it first started But you know that I was very excited once getting to high school and actually being able to do plays in that So I've been doing it all my life.

Sometimes the job is you know doing nights obviously

rehearsals and shows are at night,

Announcer

so when I

Eric Westfall (guest)

was doing nights in Wausau, I couldn't act.

But when I moved to Green Bay, I was very excited because I would have the nights free again.

And the first show I did was within months of here with Evergreen Theater called Inherit the Wind.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, it's about the Scopes Monkey Trials.

It's based on real life.

And I was the defense attorney.

Dude, I could totally see that.

Yeah, it was so cool.

And at that point, Evergreen performed at St.

Norbert at the Webb Theater, which is a thrust stage.

So, you know, we put the courtroom scene like right down in the people's face and, you know, we're going at each other.

It was pretty cool.

And at this point, I don't really think there's a theater group that I haven't worked with in an area in some capacity.

Peach Wabba (host)

Are there a lot of theater groups in this area?

Like,

Eric Westfall (guest)

is

Peach Wabba (host)

theater thriving here?

Eric Westfall (guest)

It actually is.

It actually is doing pretty well.

You've got...

just across the River Green Bay Community Theater, who has their own space on Walnut Street there, the Librault Playhouse.

Evergreen Theater in Dupere, they've had to move around a little bit lately, but they've been in the area for a long time.

Play by Play Theater is a little bit newer, but they're more of a semi-professional group.

They're the ones who have brought the Shakespeare, Summer Shakespeare.

2019 was the first year that they brought it in Whitney Park, just down the street a little bit.

And then within the past couple of years, we brought it to some other locations, including the Titletown area over by Lambeau and at Heritage Hill.

And it's been pretty, it's been a lot of fun.

Peach Wabba (host)

It's fantastic.

What, like when it comes to Shakespeare, what kind of crowds do you get?

Do you get people that actually understand Shakespeare or our fans?

Or is it more like, what's going on here?

Eric Westfall (guest)

You get a little bit of everything.

You know, it's free.

So people are like, hey, what's going on?

I know food trucks and stuff.

But the first year that they did it, it was just one show.

And they had no idea what was going to happen.

The weather ended up being very nice, because obviously your weather dependent was doing it outdoors.

And they don't have a full count.

There had to be at least 1,100 people or more yet

Announcer

there there was definitely

Eric Westfall (guest)

over a thousand people some people were saying 1,500 I don't know but that Whitney Park was packed and Wow in subsequent ones.

It's been less because we've had more

shows, but we still bring in several hundred people if you don't have an issue with the weather.

That's

Peach Wabba (host)

outstanding.

I know you're also friends with Frank Hermans.

Do you care to elaborate on that?

Eric Westfall (guest)

Yeah, Frank's a great guy.

He's a great guy.

Yes, I've never had the opportunity to actually...

haven't worked with every theater, right?

You haven't had a chance to work with them yet because they do a lot of performances.

They're busy.

And you know, when you're doing radio and things like that, we have events that come up in that.

And it's awfully tough for it to say, you know, to your boss, hey, can I have, you know, these next 20 nights?

It's a lot easier to say, can I have six, you know, available days or seven or whatever.

So, but Frank does so much for Green Bay.

Announcer

He really does.

Eric Westfall (guest)

He is the Green Bay cheerleader.

And I love it.

And the fact that, you know, he's got all the things.

things going on, you know, he's really created something awesome here.

Busy guy, prolific too, I mean.

And he's happy to promote the arts and stuff.

He's had me as a guest a couple of times, you know, what he does is the feature interviews guests on Local 5 Live, yeah.

I

Peach Wabba (host)

did that too, that was so much fun.

Yeah.

And you're right, he's such a unique guy.

Like, I don't know many towns the size of Green Bay that have a Frank Hermans,

Announcer

the

Peach Wabba (host)

one guy that puts on that many shows or a Meyer Theater.

just kind of two treasures in this area.

And I know you're friends with Frank because you were on TV recently and I watched an interview you did.

You did some cool stuff during the draft.

Eric Westfall (guest)

Can you

Peach Wabba (host)

talk about that?

That sounded really fun.

Eric Westfall (guest)

Yeah, so of course, everybody knows that there was stuff happening down at Lambeau during the draft, but...

downtown Green Bay didn't want to get left out.

And the history that Title Town has, so there's the Packers Heritage Trail, different spots around downtown Green Bay that'll

that I have a certain connection with the history of the Packers franchise.

Well, during the draft, they wanted to do a living Packers heritage trail.

So they had about 10 of us who were portraying different characters.

So I was a Brian Mulligan's Siruji.

I chose him because he was a telegraph operator, kind of a song and dance man.

And before the radio broadcast, when they would gather together in the Eagles Club, he would relay the message off of the...

off of the teletype.

What's the Morse code?

No, before radio, they...

Peach Wabba (host)

Oh man,

Eric Westfall (guest)

they used

Peach Wabba (host)

one in the movie The

Eric Westfall (guest)

State.

All of a sudden, I can't think of what it's called.

But anyway, when that would come in, he would let everybody know, and it started from there.

Nice.

And so I got to portray that during the draft.

It was really cool.

Peach Wabba (host)

We've got about a minute left.

Do you have anything coming up?

People can see you in?

Eric Westfall (guest)

Yes, the Abrams Theatre, Abrams Spotlight Productions, which is just 20 minutes north of Green Bay.

The play that goes wrong.

We did this back in May.

We're bringing it back.

one of the funniest shows ever, and not next week, but the week after.

I'm gonna have tickets to give away.

Dude, Khan, should we get in on that?

Peach Wabba (host)

And we were talking about other gigs too.

I would say I could run a theater.

That would be fun.

I love theaters when there's nobody in them and they're just quiet.

And I love that moment where it's packed and there's the murmuring right before the curtain.

It's just magical.

It's a cool energy.

Very cool stuff.

Thank you for coming in tonight.

Eric Westfall (guest)

Hey,

Peach Wabba (host)

thanks

Announcer

for having me.

Great to get to know you

Peach Wabba (host)

and hope you have a great run here at WGBW.

Love your work.

Eric Westfall (guest)

Me too,

Peach Wabba (host)

thanks.

All right, Eric Westfall.

We will be giving away Eric Westfall tickets.

We'll just put your name on the table.

Announcer

Just

Peach Wabba (host)

show

Announcer

for

Peach Wabba (host)

Eric Westphal.

Here, I keep putting this gum down too.

I

Eric Westfall (guest)

swear to God, I'm not trying to drop in.

I'm the one with the bad breath.

I brushed my teeth before I came here, actually.

Peach Wabba (host)

I'm honored to do that.

That is something I ask of all the guests that committed to the studio.

But it's great meeting you, Eric Westphal, folks.

Check out his work here at WGBW every day.

I'm having trouble talking.

I'm going to have some water, and we're going to come back and read your text.

It's Peach Wabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Lance Barber

Hey, this is Lance Barber, and you're listening to Nightlight with Pete Schwaballs.

Pete Schwaballs

Oh, I'm a child that makes me laugh.

Welcome back, folks.

I am Pete Schwaballs, and it's great to have you with me on this Friday as we barrel into a holiday weekend.

Kyle, what are your plans?

Well,

Lance Barber

tomorrow I'm going to go golfing, of course.

OK.

And then after that, going out to eat with one of my friends and, yeah, getting...

Maybe go out to a couple bars and then Sunday just lounge around and Monday Lounge around again.

Pete Schwaballs

All right.

Do you do you call them bars or taverns?

Lance Barber

I?

Guess if it's called it's if they have tavern in the name I'll say tavern Tavern, but if they don't it's just gonna be a bar.

Pete Schwaballs

You're not a rule breaker.

Lance Barber

I like

Pete Schwaballs

it

Yeah,

Lance Barber

I love it.

If

Pete Schwaballs

it says tavern, you have to say.

I get it.

Totally, man.

I'm with it.

Are we good on text?

Am I keeping up with text for once in my life?

I think so.

I think we are.

Ever from Sun Prairie.

Told us what exclusive company.

Yeah, all right.

Oh, here we go.

Brett from Brown Deer.

I did almost miss this one.

He lives in Brown Deer, Conrad, but he's got a 920 area code.

He's just like your parents.

You don't have to deliver your area code anymore.

Lance Barber

No, you

Pete Schwaballs

don't Brett says I miss the old record store slash head shop I Remember slash I don't remember the head.

Oh Jim from Appleton says shopco boy that just that just they just discontinued those recently

Lance Barber

I have seen so many shopco's just empty and there's nothing that has taken over

Pete Schwaballs

We have one in Marinette.

It's a storage facility now.

It's kind of sad.

It was like just I don't know

Lance Barber

there's one

you know, in West Bend where I grew up, I still think it's empty and it's been empty for like four years or something like that.

Pete Schwaballs

Well, I mean, honestly, like, I think Marinette lucked out, it's a storage facility, but what else do you use a huge space like that for when there are no more huge department stores?

Lance Barber

You know what we should do?

We should buy that one in West Bend, right?

It's a huge store, right?

I'm with you.

We have the studio just in the middle and everything around is just empty.

Pete Schwaballs

I've given it some thought.

I'm in.

Let's do it.

Sage, if you're listening, write us a check, buddy.

John Murray in Madison, the 608, just sends a text.

He says, so hungry.

John thinks we're like a delivery service now.

What can we get you, John?

Lance Barber

Honestly, I'm hungry,

Pete Schwaballs

too.

What are we eating?

Here let's go to our social media texts from earlier Daniel Wheeler Danny wheels says I enjoyed locally owned video rental stores as a kid It's very specific.

I love that Daniel.

He says they smelled weird but getting to browse all the box art Lining the wall was always cool, especially the horror section Yeah, there was something video stores definitely had especially the homegrown ones Definitely had a charm,

Lance Barber

you know there I feel like there's that one store in your childhood where it had that smell that you just

Pete Schwaballs

yeah

I totally get it.

Totally get that.

Alan Whitebird on social media says, toys are us.

That's

Lance Barber

another one.

I can't

Pete Schwaballs

believe it.

Lance Barber

I think there's a couple still open.

I don't think it's fully gone.

Pete Schwaballs

Okay.

Scott Lieberman from Marinette, now living in AZ says, tempo.

Another Marinette native son misses his tempo.

Okay.

Thank you, Scott.

Paulie Krieger, Conrad's mom says, Prangie Way and Sears that were at Fondlec Forest Mall.

Sears.

God, there's no more Sears either.

What was so good about Sears though?

It's just the department store.

I would say it wasn't like

Lance Barber

You can go to other department stores to get your Sears needs.

What do you got against Sears, man?

And this is this is how I feel about shop go to it shop.

Go is basically target Who cares if shot and they didn't do it as

Pete Schwaballs

well.

Yeah, exactly I mean, there's a reason shop going out of business and

Lance Barber

yeah

Pete Schwaballs

when you go there They were just kind of depressing especially towards the end one of Marinette

Lance Barber

was you know

the West Bend store, I remember closing because my friend and I, we went in, went ahead, you know, the big closeout sale.

He found like this, where they had a sign where it was like, it said Nikes, you know, like socks or something or whatever.

He bought the Nike sign so I could hang it up.

Pete Schwaballs

They sold that to him?

Lance Barber

Yeah.

I mean, you go in there and you just ask him, hey, can I buy this?

And they'd be like, I don't see why you couldn't.

That had

Pete Schwaballs

to be under the table.

I guarantee that guy said, just give me $100.

Lance Barber

I think he was like $50 he gave him.

And it was a huge Nike sign.

And I wonder if he still has it.

But it was hilarious.

I'm like, why do you need this?

Pete Schwaballs

That's hilarious.

He doesn't.

That's the beauty

Lance Barber

of it.

Like just

Pete Schwaballs

see me in Green Bay says, Yonkers and Shopko.

Hey, Yonkers.

Lance Barber

My wife love

Pete Schwaballs

Yonkers.

Folks, our keyword tonight.

One more time, just because I feel bad that some people texted, and fine is dine.

The Nightlight Last Chance summer getaway contest where you get a free night at the Chula Vista Resort with a free meal, a dining voucher, if you will.

$175 value.

That is our contest.

All you have to do is have the app and text in the keyword, and tonight's keyword is dine.

D is in David.

I-N-E.

So good luck everybody.

I miss diners, even though there's still some.

The diners that exist now are kind of like, hey, we're like a nostalgic diner.

There's just not a diner for diner's sake, it seems like.

Lance Barber

You know, Denny's is just so good, you know?

Pete Schwaballs

You think so?

Lance Barber

No.

You could go to George

Pete Schwaballs

Webbs though.

They're not bad.

They're their own deal.

They're not a national team.

Do we have, you're saying, now I know Rob's messing with me.

He just texted it fine.

Oh my God, that's a nightlight listener for you.

Announcer

And now

Pete Schwaballs

we've just corrected him.

So do we have time for that norm clip?

How long is that?

We don't.

Come on,

Lance Barber

Khan.

I'm sorry.

We're against a heartbreak.

I think you should know this.

You might be the host of the show.

Pete Schwaballs

Well, I don't pay attention to time.

Lance Barber

I do things on

Pete Schwaballs

Schwabba time.

Yeah, there you go.

So you can still text us, folks.

Terry Barr, it is a bar ban Friday night.

Terry Barr is here.

She is bringing with her music from someone who has been on the show before.

I've had the lead singer of this band on the show who performed live when I was in Madison about a year ago, not quite a year ago.

And he is just getting over an ailment and he is back at it and we are thrilled because he's incredibly talented and his band is outstanding too.

And you're going to find out who that band is coming up next.

After the news, Terry Barr will be here.

I almost said in the flesh on the stream.

For Bar Band Friday night, one of our faves.

Coming up next, it's Pete Schwabba in Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio

Announcer

Network.

Pete Schwabba

Time to check out original music with Bar Band Friday on Nightlight.

Now your host, Pete Schwabba and special guest, Terri Bar.

She is a very special guest and one of our Nightlight best friends and favorite guests.

And she is here every Friday night, just about every Friday night at 7.35 for her namesake, a segment named after my next guest, Terri Bar.

Hey, how are you, Terri?

Terri Bar

Hey, Pete and Conrad.

How are you guys?

Happy Friday.

Pete Schwabba

Happy Friday.

We are outstanding.

As always, it's great to have you here.

What do you have big plans this weekend for the holiday, Terry?

Terri Bar

You know, not really.

And that's probably OK.

We've got a ton of things.

happening around the Madison area.

And I'm sure, you know, every city and community around the state probably does as well.

But sometimes it's just nice to chill.

Pete Schwabba

Absolutely.

Well, if you hustled over to sock prairie, you could take part in a cow, cow chip throwing contest.

Terri Bar

Yes.

I'm assuming cow chip throwing.

Pete Schwabba

So you've heard of it.

Terri Bar

Oh, yes.

Pete Schwabba

Oh, OK.

Have you ever thrown a cow chip?

Terri Bar

I have not, but I know people who have.

I think they even have the celebrity version of the cow chip toss.

Pete Schwabba

Oh, no kidding.

Terri Bar

Yeah, you wanna get into that.

I

Pete Schwabba

wanna get into this.

I know, I haven't played sports in a while and I think cow chip would be the perfect re-entry into such endeavors.

I

Eric Jelen

love it.

Pete Schwabba

Terry, our question of the night is what store do you miss browsing in?

Do you have a store that is no longer around that you miss going into?

I said music land Conrad said blockbuster a lot of people said video stores or you know old department stores that kind of thing

Terri Bar

Yeah,

Pete Schwabba

you can think

Terri Bar

about um, I grew up outside of Shawnee and I would say there was both the Schultz's five and dime Right on Main Street.

Um, it probably was modeled after what was at Woolworth's.

Yeah, so five and dime

And I just remember the squeaky wood floors when you would walk around and kind of browse at everything.

And then they built a bigger, they called that one Schultz's family store.

And that was a really big one.

And they both just sort of went away.

Pete Schwabba

Oh, isn't that sad?

It

Terri Bar

is.

I heard somebody mention to you, Kmart.

Pete Schwabba

Yeah.

Terri Bar

Kmart was so fun.

Pete Schwabba

Yeah, all those stores were.

And I think it just reminds us of when we were younger and.

simpler times, more innocent times maybe?

I don't know.

Yes.

Hey, you've got a great band you're about to talk about.

I love this band.

We've been teasing it all night.

I have not said who the band was, but I'm going to leave this all to you.

Who are you bringing us tonight, Terry?

Terri Bar

I am bringing you brand new music.

In fact, they just received the albums.

We're talking about the band, The Mascot Theory.

And Pete, I know you are a fan.

I am a huge fan.

And I got these songs.

These haven't been heard by anyone.

One was released on streaming today.

That is the Got a Grip song.

The other song no one has heard yet.

And I spent the afternoon with Eric Chelen.

Eric is the lead singer.

He's the main songwriter.

And we listened.

We track this entire album from beginning to end.

And much like the bands he enjoys, Pink Floyd and others like those, this album is written to be listened to.

beginning to end.

It tells an incredible story of loss and life and trying to hang on to the light.

And it's incredible.

I have no words to even try to describe it any better than that.

Pete Schwabba

It's great.

I listen to it on the way down to both songs.

And with some of this inspired by Eric's recent struggles with

His health, he had an episode and okay, that totally

Terri Bar

goes

Pete Schwabba

across, I thought so.

Terri Bar

The first, if you listen to the album and remember good old albums have the side A and the side B, we listened to it streaming so we could listen all the way through.

But side A is all about his dad passing away during COVID and how he felt he never took time to acknowledge it.

So he wrote these songs.

He does what a great songwriter does.

And the other side is sort of coming to terms with that and then adds in this very rare brain ailment that he just had surgery for.

So he's kind of coming off of both of those things and talking about, you know, how do you hang on to the light?

What comes after your life is done?

Just really some deep things, but

what I love about this band, they always keep it a little more on the uplifting side.

So it's fun to hear the background of these songs, but then to realize, wow, that could be a really sad song, but they keep it, you know, sort of, I'm not gonna say happy, but more uplifting.

Pete Schwabba

Right.

Well, what should we start with?

Cause they're both longer song, not too long, they're perfect length.

Actually, when you hear them, but I'm saying, what do you prefer to start with, Terry?

Terri Bar

Let's start with Gotta Grip because it is out there.

If people want to listen to it, they can go to any streaming services.

And this one's fun because they brought in a rapper.

The guy's name is Tyler Durden.

Tyler used to be from Wisconsin.

He's now out on the East Coast.

And I think he just really adds a little flair to this song.

Pete Schwabba

I love it.

All right.

So this is Gotta Grip.

And

Terri Bar

is this the one that was released today?

Yes.

This is the one that's out today.

Pete Schwabba

So very few people have heard this, folks.

Terry Barr is bringing it to us almost exclusively, almost for a sneak peek.

You're gonna love it.

It's a great song by a great band.

This is Gotta Grip by The mascot theory.

Eric Jelen

Across the family dinner table Separate the truth from fable My brain is drowning loud and free Pass that salty ocean to me Across the family dinner table

Stop

Tyler Durden

The baggage you buried, it's there when you're raring to fall Cause they don't care if you disparage to perish or stall The tank is empty, start to rush to the ambulance Tempting to break all the rules from Lady Justice has been and so saved me From all the lies and the maybes Cause maybe if he told the truth then all our lies would be gravy I'm going crazy, but I'm sane enough to know that you made me the game as-

And pass the blame or let the rain hit the pavement Another payment you can pay it So you're trying to fake it I bet you need a vacation Cause you're running and racing Now get it grip and be patient Don't slip when you face it Take another deep breath Face the heat and embrace it Face the heat

Eric Jelen

to fly into a sunset painted sky passing ships and star-crossed lovers peek your eyes from under covers cross my heart and vote to fly into a sunset painted sky passing ships and star-crossed lovers peek your eyes from under

Great tune.

Boy,

Pete Schwabba

you really hear, you do hear that Pink Floyd a little bit, kind of in the composition or the background a little.

You definitely hear that influence.

Terri Bar

Yes.

Pete Schwabba

That's

Terri Bar

a really good song.

And when they

do their album release shows coming up in October.

They're going to play, just as I heard today, they're going to play the album from beginning to end straight through.

It will be an amazing listening experience.

Pete Schwabba

He is such a cool guy.

He's so chill.

Eric Jelen, I'm talking about the main singer.

He's going to be on Nightlight again on September 22nd.

And it's interesting.

that when the last time he was here, Terry, we met him through you, obviously.

He brought an album, a double-sided vinyl album.

So I love that old-school element to their music and just the way they present themselves.

It's just a really, really good Wisconsin band.

Terri Bar

Oh, they're so good.

And, you know, you listen to them, and then when you hear other bands actually play it on the radio, as we're doing with their music tonight, you kind of wonder...

Why have these guys not broken through?

They're just so good, so professional.

And I just really want everyone to see them and hear them because I just think they're spectacular, really.

Pete Schwabba

Well, here's a great text we just got from someone in the 715 didn't leave their name said I ordered it referring to the album.

So how cool is that?

Terri Bar

That is wonderful.

That is wonderful.

And, you know, they have these album release shows coming up around the state.

So, you know, go to the mascot theory dot com, the mascot theory dot com.

Right.

They are going to have a show near you wherever you may be listening from tonight.

They are playing everywhere to promote this album.

Pete Schwabba

And we've got another song coming up.

Terry Barr is here.

It is a bar ban Friday night.

We've got another tune called Final Hour from mascot theory off their new album.

That is coming up after a very short break.

We have a text here from Tom from New Berlin, says, Sears was the first retailer in the 80s that you could buy it right there with Sears credit.

I did not know that.

Thank you, Tom.

That's a great bit of info.

Bridget from the 818 says, Yonkers, I loved that department store.

I loved browsing and looking for big, big savings.

phrase I use here on the show a lot.

Tom also says, like it, Lincoln Park, they're influenced with the country ending.

We're coming right back on Barband Friday

Terri Bar

night.

Pete Schwab (host)

Welcome back.

I'm Pete Schwab, and this is Night Light, a Friday night edition of Night Light, where we celebrate Wisconsin music with our pal Terry Barr on Bar Band Friday night.

She is here right now.

We are talking about the band, the mascot theory.

We will be back with Terry in just a second.

I want to finish off these final two texts and I want to this maybe Terry can speak to this Tom from New Berlin said Like it Lincoln Park.

They are influenced with a country ending.

I think I know what Tom is saying there Terry like they have that kind of I don't know you see you hear kind of a lot of different stuff in there in their material It's great.

Yeah.

Terry Barr (contributor)

Yeah, I think that's why I love their music so much.

Pete Schwab (host)

Yeah, and here's

Here's Rob from Green Bay in the 920.

He says, wow, great song.

I've never heard them before, but we'll definitely check them out.

So there you go.

Yes.

Very productive Barbie on Friday night here.

Let's talk about this last song.

And then I think we'll just close the show and go out on the song if that's OK with you, Terry.

Terry Barr (contributor)

That is absolutely fine.

And I want to remind everybody, yes, they're going to be playing all over the state.

Coming up, they have a show in Green Bay, October 18th, Madison, October 5th.

That's one you want to hold if you want to be part of this big album release show.

And the other really big one is at Gibson Music Hall in Appleton.

That one is October 3rd.

And why I say big Pete, the one in Appleton and the one in Madison, they are going to sit down to be interviewed about.

these songs and why they are so very personal to them.

And

Pete Schwab (host)

I get

Terry Barr (contributor)

to do the one in Madison so I'm really excited.

But I'm afraid I'm going to be very sad too because I know what these songs mean to

Pete Schwab (host)

these guys and

Terry Barr (contributor)

I really hope people will listen.

Pete Schwab (host)

You cannot beat access like that to the artists.

I think that's outstanding.

So folks take advantage of that if you're

If you're in those areas, and especially the one where Terry is there, I'm sure Terry will crush the Q&A portion, if you will.

We do have two more quick texts.

John Murray from Madison says, Peter and Conrad, fun fact, when I was seven years old, I bought my first alarm clock with my own $5.

When browsing the local Sears back in 1972, still wakes me up every day.

Wow, that's pretty good value, John.

It's incredible.

It's like a 50-year-old alarm clock.

Janet from Madison says, I miss Woolworths.

I went as a kid at the one in Madison and in Janesville.

When I moved to California in 1990, there was one in Santa Monica and I was so excited, but it soon was transformed into a bookstore.

I was sad.

Thank you, Janet.

Bookstores are okay.

Tuesday night, folks, tune in.

I'll be, I'm off Monday, but we've got a great show with Dan Schaefer and some great highlights.

So Steve, who else, Conrad?

Steve Cochran and- Kaelin Cole.

Kaelin Cole, there you go, Terry.

Another Terry Barrow referral.

So that's Monday night.

We'll be back live Tuesday with Ty Williams and Greg Vatney from the Rar West Museum in Manitowoc.

So, Terry, this has been so much fun.

I think we'll just, we'll go out on this great tune.

You good with that?

Thank you.

Terry Barr (contributor)

I am absolutely fine with it.

I wish everybody a great Labor Day weekend and to both of you.

Pete Schwab (host)

You too, my friend.

Will we, will we see you next Friday?

Terry Barr (contributor)

Absolutely.

Pete Schwab (host)

All

Terry Barr (contributor)

right.

Can't get rid of me that easy.

Pete Schwab (host)

Thank you so much, my friend.

Great stuff.

By way of Terry Barr, here is a mascot theory and the song Final Hour.

Check out their stuff, folks.

It's great.

On behalf of the lovable producer Conrad and Terry Barr, I'm Pete Schwabba saying good night, Wisconsin.

Mascot Theory (band lyrics)

So you're taking an unplanned midnight stroll Wanderin' blind through the unknown Searching for answers Only ghosts could ever know You travel an unhaved gravel road What you will find there God only knows A thief in the darkness

Or a light to guide you home Is this the final hour?

Is this the last goodbye?

Cannot get some sleep tonight While these memories collide Is this the final hour?

Is this the last goodbye?

Can you make it back to me when shadows fill your eyes?

You retired from the daily grind And you didn't plan to be cast aside Surrounded by strangers While the symptoms multiplied I tried to decode inconceivable plots Unwinnable games Unreachable docs The meaning of

Pete Schwabba

This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba.

Great to have you with me.

Do I seem rusty?

Just a little bit.

You know.

Blown the dust off the old radio act here, trying to get back in the groove.

It is Wednesday night, folks.

Our question of the night, what is your favorite Wisconsin quirk?

We use chasers with our Bloody Mary, because they're so spicy, I guess.

I don't know.

I don't know why you need chasers with a Bloody Mary, but we do that here in Wisconsin.

We say bubbler.

My my thing was we ask a question that is really more of a statement like going to the store Pete That kind of stuff Conrad says we use the word couple that can mean two or a hundred and in Conrad's case he means beers So let us know what your favorite Wisconsin quirk is and we will read your text on the radio right now.

I'm really excited This next gentleman is a friend of mine.

Well, I consider him a friend I don't know what he's got work and he's you know He might be one of those people Conrad that doesn't have a room for new friends

Todd is approaching middle age, and he's already got a ton of friends.

He's very locked in here in Wisconsin, but enough time foolery.

It is my pleasure to welcome to Nightlight our old pal, radio legend, and paranormal investigator.

He also works on the podcast Real Ghost Stories Online and Hidden Killers with Tony Brusky, Mr. Todd Michaels.

Hey, buddy, how are you?

Todd Michaels

It was very nice of you to say that I was getting up to middle-aged, because I'm certainly already there.

Listen,

Pete Schwabba

it's

Todd Michaels

a thing- Well over that.

Pete Schwabba

Conrad says a couple beers are like 14, so we're a little- We're not really holding anybody accountable

Todd Michaels

your time.

I knew I liked Conrad for some reason.

Pete Schwabba

It's

Todd Michaels

good to see

Pete Schwabba

you.

How are

Todd Michaels

you?

I'm doing well.

How are you, Pete?

Pete Schwabba

Good.

You know, after you left here, Todd, I completely did not put the toilet seat down for a few weeks and I left a coffee cup out because I knew you couldn't be here to do Jack.

You know what about it, buddy?

Todd Michaels

That's right.

You know what though?

I mean, I felt that like in the deep core inner sides of myself, I knew that that's what was going on.

Pete Schwabba

Here's how intuitive Todd is.

Like, you know, he's a paranormal investigator.

He's very locked in on sensory stuff.

I walked in one night to the station here.

It was probably a year ago.

And he goes, what's up, man?

You okay?

And I totally wasn't, but I never say anything.

It's like, I'm an adult.

I suck it up and move on.

And that's why people have heart attacks.

But, you know, I just, I didn't say anything.

And Todd could tell something was amiss.

And is that, that's really a quality you have, isn't it?

Todd Michaels

I would say probably I can read a room pretty well.

And sometimes it's a good thing when you want to know and then there's also a bad thing when you don't want to know or you don't really care.

But

Pete Schwabba

yeah, it is true.

Well, in my case, were you saying that out of concern or were you like, I hope something's

Todd Michaels

wrong with Pete?

No, no, I was worried about you.

All right,

Pete Schwabba

good.

Because I was close to going on air and you wouldn't be able to find anybody or just because you have a genuine concern for my well-being.

Todd Michaels

Oh, I care about you, Pete.

I really do.

I appreciate that.

Pete Schwabba

Well, it's great to have you here, Todd.

Do you have a favorite Wisconsin quirk or something we do here in Wisconsin that you like?

I don't know if you're aware of this, Todd, but I noticed in Wisconsin that people say, now, when you get to the stop and go lights, go straight.

Like, they'll tell you to go somewhere and then keep going on that path.

Todd Michaels

Right.

Yeah, that's definitely one of them.

And we call them stop and go lights, too, which is kind of weird.

Isn't it just like, yeah.

I always like the or no, like it's always, we ask a question and then we give you the opportunity to say no to it.

It's not like just, hey Conrad, are you doing well or no?

You know, we always add that to it.

Pete Schwabba

It should be implied.

Todd Michaels

It should be implied, you're

Pete Schwabba

right.

It's basically a multiple choice.

We make it a multiple choice question.

That was one of mine too, so that was great.

All right, so.

Todd, before we jump into the paranormal stuff, you're still producing content.

You have this great new gig.

Tell us about your real ghost stories online, please.

Todd Michaels

Well, we just started doing this.

Real ghost stories online was actually started like 11 or 12 years ago by a good friend of mine, Tony Bruski.

He started podcasting when nobody else was podcasting.

And so he's been doing it a very long time.

It's one of the top ghost story podcasts out there was always ranked very well.

And we just started doing something new on Monday nights.

We go live from eight until 10 p.m.

On you can find it on YouTube search for real go stories online and we'll be doing them live for two hours every Monday night telling actual go stories from actual listeners.

People call in tell their stories.

We have audio.

We have letters that we read and we generally mess around for about two hours.

So that's a good portion of what I'm doing right now.

Pete Schwabba

And that's live.

That's pretty cool.

It is.

Yeah.

And what was the, what was the time again, Todd?

Todd Michaels

Eight till 10 Monday nights on real ghost stories online.

Just find it on YouTube.

But there is so much content that goes out every day.

I can't even tell you like 20 or 30 different pieces of content that we have that go out.

So definitely want to check it out.

If you're into ghosts and if you've got a ghost story, you can always call in with yours as well.

Pete Schwabba

I notice you, you're on eight to 10.

Is that because you knew it would be futile to compete with the juggernaut that is nightlight?

Todd Michaels

I just thought, why would I want to compete with my very good friend, Pete Schwabba?

Pete Schwabba

You're the best man.

Well, that sounds cool.

And you do, you're involved with the true crime podcast as well.

Todd Michaels

Hidden Killers with Tony Brusky.

This is new to me.

I've never been a real true crime lover.

But I dived in headfirst and it is amazing what goes on in the true crime world.

And I'll just tell you that starting on Tuesday of next week, we'll be doing a live program every day from 10 a.m.

till noon called Hidden Killers Live.

It's with Tony Bruski, Stacy Cole and myself.

And we will be talking about some of the biggest stories in the country around the world.

And we bring in experts to talk about it.

FBI, a former FBI agent.

So we have psychotherapists on to talk about it.

And there's been like maybe five or 10 stories that we've been really digging into since I took this job.

And it blows my mind some of these stories.

It makes you really wonder about how safe you are on a daily basis in your life.

Pete Schwabba

Oh my gosh.

So I, for me, I'm kind of new to the party when it comes to true crime.

My daughter got me into it and I watched, I think the first true crime thing I watched was either the OJ one on Netflix or the night stalker.

That was phenomenal.

And I realized my thing with true crime is I love

when they go from the police perspective.

How did you catch them?

What break did you catch?

Like to me, that's fascinating.

The ones that are overhyped and play the eerie music and the mind of a killer, you know, that kind of stuff.

Like I love the procedure part about it.

So would you say you're into true crime now since you've been doing this?

Todd Michaels

I kind of am.

And there's a story that's out there right now.

Hula was doing a documentary on Fox Hollow Farm.

And this is a guy, Mr. Baumeister.

who lived just outside Indianapolis.

And what they found is this guy, they found like 20 bodies in his backyard.

And it's out on Hulu right now.

You got to check it out.

But the interesting thing about it is not only is it a crazy story of this guy and how he got these people to come home with him and his home life, but also it's kind of turned into the paranormal side now because investigators have gone to Fox Hello Farm

just outside Indianapolis and actually investigated.

So that's kind of another angle of that story that's really interesting to me.

Oh, wow.

That

Pete Schwabba

is cool.

I thought you were at like the Baumeister angle.

I thought you were going to say they found like a bunch of empty bottles of root beers.

Get to the bottom of this.

That's cool.

So all right, let's jump into some paranormal talk, Todd.

Yeah.

So you told me about this story today that I was unaware of, the Annabelle Dahl X tragedy.

And that must have hit

kind of close to home because it was another paranormal investigator around your age.

Tell us what happened.

Todd Michaels

Well, you know, I'll just kind of generalize it, but the Annabelle doll, which has been a big part of the conjuring series of movies and tied in Ed and Lorraine Warren, they found this doll years ago.

And it was just a regular reggae and doll that they said had

paranormal stuff go on with it.

They locked it in their museum.

Ed and Lorraine Warren had a museum at their house where they kept all these possessed items and it could be a crucifix, it could be a chair, it could be a piece of clothing and there was this doll and they actually had it locked up in a case that had crucifixes on it and prayers and all that kind of stuff.

Well,

Several weeks ago, I don't know whose idea this was, but they decided to take this thing on tour to various paracons.

What the heck?

And one of the handlers who handled the dolly, they had to take it out of the case at the Warren's house, put it in another case to take on display.

And the guy died.

He was roughly my age, right?

Seemed to be in relatively good health.

And I know a lot of people are saying, well, is it directly tied in?

I don't know.

But why would you mess with that?

Why would you, if something is purportedly haunted, why would you take it out in a sealed case and then take it on tour to put other people in danger?

It just seems really silly to me.

Pete Schwabba

Do you think that's because they didn't believe the curse or that it was haunted or they didn't respect that somehow?

Or like, what would you do?

Would you handle that, Dalton?

No, absolutely

Todd Michaels

not.

I wouldn't.

And there's kind of an interesting, another interesting piece of this.

Matt Reif, the comedian, I think you probably know who he is, right?

Sure.

He just recently bought Ed and Lorraine's house.

Oh my gosh.

All right.

So now he is going to, I'm hearing he's going to turn it into like a museum tour.

They're going to do ghost hunting there and all this kind of stuff.

But there is some weird thing in the contract with the house.

I believe he's going to have, he's going to oversee all the haunted items.

And it's just like, I don't know if that's something you really want to do.

If I were editor or Lorraine Warren, and for those who don't know who they are, they were into paranormal investigation before the ghost hunters came out with TV shows and all that.

They were into it in the 60s and 70s.

They were some of the lead investigators on the Amityville horror and of course the Conjuring House too.

So they were around a long time.

But if I were them,

And they're both dead, by the way.

If I were them, I would come back and haunt the hell out of anybody who took a tour of my house.

And the other part of it is a lot of the family is not happy about it because grandchildren are thinking, yeah, this is grandma and grandpa's house.

And now this comedian, like him or hate him, now owns grandma and grandpa's house.

And he plans on doing something with it to make a little cash.

Pete Schwabba

Don't you think karma

should step in here and say, you know, first of all, this guy's a comedian.

You should have a poster of Steve Martin up on your wall with the arrow through his head.

Like now, what are you doing buying a haunted house?

I just feel like this has a recipe.

This will be a movie someday with him.

I don't think it'll end well for him, I guess is what I'm saying.

Todd Michaels

Don't think, isn't it always that way though?

Like movie stars want to be singers, singers want to be movie stars.

And for whatever reason, Matt Reif has always been into the paranormal.

I think he's big friends with Zach Baggins from Ghost Adventures.

So they've hung out together a little bit.

And I think Zach Baggins is a douche.

But other than that, I think it's just something that's always interesting to him.

And now that he's got some money, he wants to have a little piece of paranormal history, I guess.

Pete Schwabba

You're right.

Comedians want to be singers.

Actors want to be this and that.

And you set me up.

What do you want to be, Pete, when you grow up?

I'm getting to that.

You set me up beautifully, buddy.

Conrad, a C note, please.

And I'm just going to do a quick little thing here.

No.

Todd Michaels

Conrad got

Pete Schwabba

nervous.

He thought I was actually asking him to play the

Todd Michaels

piano or

Pete Schwabba

something.

Yeah, that's really strange to me that anyone would do that.

And to me, it has horror film written all over it.

The Warrens.

Interestingly enough, the doll supposedly has the soul of their, not of their six-year-old, but of a six-year-old girl that owned the doll that died.

Todd Michaels

Right.

I think her name was Annabelle.

I don't know.

Pete Schwabba

All right.

Todd Michaels is here.

Todd, we got so, I always run out of stuff and I have way too much stuff to talk to you about.

Do we cover this to the degree?

Todd Michaels

I think so, yeah.

Pete Schwabba

All right.

Let's talk about some disappearing airplanes when we come back, okay?

Sounds good.

All right.

We'll do that Matt Miller's here at 720 talking movies and TV right now our pal Todd Michaels is here The keyword folks is play get in on the nightlight fun our end of summer contest We're coming right back here on the civic media radio network Music

Peach Waba (host)

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Todd Michaels (guest)

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That's right.

Well, dang wait.

Hold on.

I really hope you

Peach Waba (host)

texted in Todd.

Todd Michaels (guest)

I didn't yet, but I'm going to The password is play

That was the gig.

I always wanted, you know that right?

Peach Waba (host)

Alan Ludden?

Well,

Todd Michaels (guest)

yeah, while Alan Ludden was one of the best, but I always wanted to work on a game show.

I wanted to be Johnny Olson or you know, one of those guys that was the announcer.

Peach Waba (host)

Yeah, announcer gig would be cool because those guys, that's like Vanna White.

You know, you have like the least amount to do on the show, but you get paid huge and just saying, here's Alan Ludden.

That guy probably

Todd Michaels (guest)

makes

Peach Waba (host)

a million bucks a year, you know?

Todd Michaels (guest)

I don't know if they made that much back in the day, but you'd work on like four or five game shows.

Yeah.

And that's what you do.

You go in, you tape five game shows, a password, and then you'd go down the hall and tape five of something else.

And all you had to do is read the script.

Peach Waba (host)

And then you go to Tom Bergens and you drink for free for the rest of your life.

It's a

Todd Michaels (guest)

pretty

Peach Waba (host)

sweet.

And you've got the voice, dude.

You should have been that guy.

Todd Michaels (guest)

I know.

I didn't, you know what?

I didn't do it.

You know what, Pete?

Thank you.

To hell with this interview.

I'm going to go get a gig.

Peach Waba (host)

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

You could finish the interview.

I don't think 17 minutes is going to affect too much or whatever we have left.

Todd Michaels is my guest.

You can see Todd's work at Real Ghost Stories Online and Hidden Killers with Tony Brusky.

You produce these shows, right, Todd?

And you're on the air with them as well, correct?

Todd Michaels (guest)

Yeah.

I mean, it's...

Again, the hidden killers live is going to be starting on Tuesday right after Labor Day.

And we started the real ghost stories online a couple of weeks ago.

So that's that's in full throttle as I'm going to use that word because you used full throttle.

So, yeah, I'm really excited about being a part of it.

Peach Waba (host)

I'm kind of scared to watch things like hidden killers in that because you watch something like that and go.

What if I'm a hidden killer?

not in the Homer Simpson voice, but you just really think maybe there's something in you that hasn't been unleashed yet.

Todd Michaels (guest)

Well, when you listen to psychotherapists, now one of the big stories over the last couple of years was what happened in Moscow, Idaho.

And I'm not going to get deep into it because I don't know a lot about it, but Brian Coburger killed four students in Idaho.

And we're just finding out a little bit more about Brian Coburger now.

And it's kind of crazy because when you listen to psychotherapists talk about some of these people

You know, he studied like other people.

I mean, it's crazy when you think about the domers and they all have a little bit of linkage there.

There's always something really, really in common.

And I will just say this, if you like true crime a little bit, you can go online and get updated on so many

Different weird people out there and some of the stuff that went down.

It's really crazy.

Peach Waba (host)

What is the thing that links that?

I mean, I know they have similarities They always look for like did they harm animals when they were younger that kind of stuff?

But what do you know what the similarity is?

Are you just speaking generally?

Todd Michaels (guest)

I think just speaking generally You know a lot of them are broken in some way shape or form a lot of them had issues in their family dominating mothers

I mean, think of psycho, right?

I mean, we're not far off from that being kind of reality.

So when you look at the family dynamic of some of these people, we're covering Donna Adelson.

She had, well, she's on trial right now and they're trying to figure out if she mastermind and paid for her son-in-law getting killed in Florida back in like 2014, 20, I don't know how long ago it was.

At any rate,

It is absolutely crazy how that family dynamic worked.

She was the matriarch of the family and kids wouldn't even go to the bathroom and take a crap without asking mommy if it was okay.

And even in adulthood, they didn't do anything in life without approval for mom.

So you see this kind of similarly in so many stories when it comes to true crime stuff.

Peach Waba (host)

That's insane.

I've been asking for permission to go to the bathroom my whole life.

I've never killed anybody.

Right?

I mean, that's just, that's a different gene.

Todd Michaels (guest)

Who are you asking?

Peach Waba (host)

Just random strangers.

Todd Michaels (guest)

That's different.

It's a whole different problem.

I

Peach Waba (host)

go over to Hagermeister Park and ask for permission.

Or do I have to buy something?

Todd, let's get to this.

This is pretty cool.

I always say that and it's terrible.

It's not pretty cool.

It's a plane crash or a disappearance, but Malaysia Airlines Flight 370.

It's been called

the biggest mystery in aviation history as to what happened with that flight.

How do airplanes disappear?

Have you ever investigated anything like that or know people who have?

Todd Michaels (guest)

I mean, I know some people that are into studying it and reading about it and all that.

And it is amazing to me when you look at the number of flights that go down and are never found.

They're just never found.

They might even, they may, if they're lucky, find

wreckage somehow in the ocean or something like that, but they never actually find where the plane went down.

Bodies are never found, all that kind of stuff.

And it's not like one or two.

If you look through history, there's a lot, which also makes me scared about getting in a plane.

Peach Waba (host)

Listen, I've gotten more scared about getting on a plane, especially after all those incidents earlier in the year.

But I mean, I've never liked flying.

But it was just kind of a necessary thing.

But I don't understand how a plane like they can track it.

It took off 38 minutes later.

It went, you know, dark.

Right.

So if you draw an arrow in 38 minutes or whatever, now I'm doing the Wisconsin thing where we measure distance by time.

But how it baffles me that with all the technology we have that we can't pinpoint or find like you say wreckage.

Todd Michaels (guest)

It almost makes you wonder if something wasn't planned and something's not being hidden.

Peach Waba (host)

Yeah, yeah, I mean I've never been that kind of guy, but it is kind of strange when they can't find anything or have Absolutely no answers to the point where it's like well it might have just disappeared or is in a different Stratosphere universe right now or something a nightlight with peach waba on the civic media radio network

Host 2

Welcome

Pete Schwabba

back.

I'm Pete Schwabba.

This is Nightlight.

I know.

Host 2

Where's the

Pete Schwabba

deal?

It's like become a thing and I'm probably going to take your picture through the

Host 2

window.

This is the place to be.

Pete Schwabba

This is

Host 2

the

Pete Schwabba

nightlight.

Tomorrow Night on the show, Eric Westfall will be here at 6.35.

He is another new on air personality here at WGBW.

And Terry Barr will be here at 7.35 for Bar Band Friday Night.

She will bring awesome tunes and great convo.

So do not miss Tomorrow Night's show.

Right now, we are talking with our pal, Emerson Lehman.

He is one of the hosts of the WBAY Morning Show here.

Do you call it Morning News or the Morning Show?

Action to News This Morning.

Action.

Oh, I got it.

Write that

Emerson Lehman

down.

WBAY morning show that counts.

Action to news, Green Bay.

Action to news this morning.

Pete Schwabba

This morning.

Emerson Lehman

Because we cover all of Northeast Wisconsin, Pete.

I know

Pete Schwabba

you

Emerson Lehman

do.

Yeah.

Pete Schwabba

It's insane.

And you're right over here, right?

Some of the UP as well.

Yeah, we're like two blocks that way.

Okay.

I sang there.

I was in a swing choir when I was in high school.

In the auditorium there?

Yeah, we got to go in there.

I was like, whoa.

It's pretty cool, isn't it?

It was really cool.

Yeah.

I still get lost.

Do you really?

It's a maze.

It's a great building.

It's

Emerson Lehman

so cool.

There's so much history in there.

Pete Schwabba

Do you have...

anchors like that you You know watched growing up either on real news or in movies like Ted Knight or Ted Baxter is one of my all-time favorite You have people like that that you watch and you go oh man, I would love to do that

Emerson Lehman

Yeah, that's the reason I got into news was I was sitting it was like my junior year of high school and I was watching the news with my mom and

I didn't know what I was going to do with my life.

I thought I was going to be a race car driver and then I kind of figured that wasn't

Host 2

going to happen.

Emerson Lehman

And I'm trying to think, what am I going to do to make money?

And I liked talking.

I thought being on TV would be kind of cool.

And we're watching the news and I said, I can do that.

Host 2

They

Emerson Lehman

just read a teleprompter?

What?

Yeah, that's absolutely done.

Then I went to college and figured out that's not all they do.

There's

Host 2

a lot that

Emerson Lehman

goes into it.

I fell in love with it anyway.

So

Host 2

that's what got

Emerson Lehman

me into the news aspect.

But I mean, you asked people that I like admire.

One person I would shout out is Joyce Scarbeciak.

She was a longtime anchor down in Milwaukee, loved watching her growing up.

And then I actually, when I interned at Channel 12 in Milwaukee, I got to learn from her and be able to like be able to

converse with her and just choose the first person when I got my first job to reach out to me and say, I'm really proud of you.

Congratulations.

It was, it was pretty,

Pete Schwabba

it was like, it

Emerson Lehman

was so cool.

Host 2

And then

Emerson Lehman

when I, when I won Miami too, she was one of the first people to reach out to me and say, congratulations, you know, so proud of you.

It, it, uh,

That was very special.

I'll never forget that.

Pete Schwabba

You see how we work the Emmy into the conversation.

Emerson Lehman

Just two big moments

Pete Schwabba

in your life.

You remember who reaches out.

So,

Emerson Lehman

you know, yeah, it was very special

Pete Schwabba

that you did that.

I'm teasing.

I was actually going to ask you because I know you were nominated again last year.

You're such a young guy.

You've already got an Emmy and a nomination.

Like, what's in store this year for someone who's already an award-winning newscaster?

Emerson Lehman

I don't know, man.

We'll see.

I think nominations come out in...

October, I believe, or maybe late September or late.

So in the next couple of months here, I thought we had a really good year.

I'm really proud of the work that our morning team has been doing.

We had a ton of live coverage from the NFL draft,

Host 2

was really proud of

Emerson Lehman

that.

We just, we wrapped up EAA a couple of weeks ago.

We were down there for three days of that week, just kind of doing things different and kind of separating ourselves in that way.

And, you know, when you get to anchor alongside someone like Tammy Elliott, who is just

the ultimate professional.

Host 2

It

Emerson Lehman

helps me elevate my game.

And it just, I'm really, really proud of the work that we've been doing this year.

And hopefully the judges will think so as well.

But, you know, it's cool to win an award and go home with a trophy, but I mean, it's, you're not doing it for that, right?

You do

Pete Schwabba

it

Emerson Lehman

because you want-

Pete Schwabba

Oh, you love

Emerson Lehman

the gig.

You love the gig.

Pete Schwabba

You

Emerson Lehman

love, you know, being a part of those viewers' everyday routine and just,

being a part of that and knowing that you're doing important work.

And that's what you do it for.

But, you know, if someone wants to give you a cool, shiny statue for

Pete Schwabba

doing it, you're not going to say no.

Absolutely.

That's so great.

Well, Small Towns is Emerson's kind of side hustle at WBAY.

When can people see that before we move on?

So

Emerson Lehman

Thursdays

Pete Schwabba

at

Emerson Lehman

six, you can, Thursdays at six, you can watch every week.

And then I'll do another plug for our special that's coming up on Labor Day.

folks get home at noon on Monday, turn on WBAY TV, and you'll get a half hour of just some of our favorite stories that we've had the chance to cover so far this year.

We've

Pete Schwabba

had a

Emerson Lehman

really good time.

That's

Pete Schwabba

fantastic.

Emerson Lehman is my guest.

He is the one of the anchors at Action 2 News this morning here in Green Bay at WDB.

See Conrad is taking a picture.

Host 2

He's getting the window.

Pete Schwabba

Can you get there?

Can you get their name Conrad, the family name, so we can put that on Facebook?

So we've been doing this thing where we take a picture.

I'm probably going to ask you to take your picture through the window.

I'll do it.

I'll take a picture through the window.

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You

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used to have your picture taken.

So all right, I want to ask you, you were at the Milwaukee mile.

I was.

You're a huge racing fan.

Major.

So what is the Milwaukee mile for?

I've never heard of it.

And I know, I'm a sports fan.

Usually I've heard of NASCAR, Indy 5.

What is the Milwaukee mile?

Emerson Lehman

One of, if not the oldest oval racetrack in America.

Okay.

So it's at the State Fair Park, right on the grounds there.

And it's a mile.

Long, concrete oval.

So it's part of, you mentioned the Indy 500.

So it's part

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of the

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Indy car series

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schedule.

Emerson Lehman

So the Indy 500 is like the marquee race of the year for the Indy car series, but they still have 17 other races outside of the 500.

Pete Schwabba

I did not know that.

So they go to Road

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America at Elkhart Lake.

They

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make a

Emerson Lehman

stop there back in June.

And then they, the first year back to Milwaukee was last year.

They had a double header Saturday, Sunday.

And I was very proud of that because they had left

attendance had been low at races and The series had gone away and a lot of people said the miles dead.

It's that's it.

It's not gonna come back It's just there's not a passion for it.

They can't make it work and then huh NASCAR dip their toe in with their truck series and came back and I kept saying Indy cars gonna make one more run at it Indy cars gonna make one more run at it and it was probably a

hopeless feeling for me, but I was just, I was just,

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it's gonna

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happen.

It's cause I grew up going there, right?

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I

Emerson Lehman

just love IndyCar being in Wisconsin.

And they, a lot of haters said it wasn't gonna happen.

And it happened last year and they had two really decent crowds for the first year back.

And then it went from two races to one race this year and they sold out the grandstands.

So the ones that are, that they had seats available.

IndyCar racing is alive and well in Wisconsin.

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I will make that

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proclamation.

I was so happy to be sitting there with my dad, know nothing better than a day at the racetrack with your pops

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and

Emerson Lehman

just, yeah, it was a great race, first time winner for the IndyCar series.

And yeah, man, it was

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just a great time.

We have some pictures that Terry Barr shared with us that we will share on the stream.

So if you're listening or watching on the stream, I should say, there we go.

Terry Barr was at the mile?

She was.

Look at that.

She's everywhere.

She's everywhere.

She is everywhere.

That looks like it was post-race.

Okay.

Yeah, that's post-race.

Let's do another one, Con.

There they go.

That's part of the race, right?

So

Emerson Lehman

that might be right toward the

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end as well or

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when they're in the pits.

Yeah, so that's in the...

going in for their pit stop to see the tires that are laid out.

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But we

Emerson Lehman

had a beautiful day for it was gorgeous, man.

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And yeah,

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it's crazy.

There was a pop up rain cloud so they don't race in the rain because

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they

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slick racing tires on the race was it was getting to a point where like, okay, maybe a caution, like something spice it up toward the end.

Mother Nature was paying attention and she's a race fan because just one random pop-up cloud started spitting like sprinkles not enough to soak the track and like make a big delay but just enough that they had to throw the caution flag and and slow them down for a couple laps and bunch them

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all

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back up and then the last 20 laps was just a shootout incredible to watch so

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much

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fun, but it It was chamber of commerce weather.

Otherwise like it was 68 degrees sunny.

There's another look at that that

blue skies just, it was

Pete Schwabba

one of those.

I never heard that.

What's chamber of commerce?

Emerson Lehman

What is that phrase?

I never heard that.

Chamber of commerce weather?

Pete Schwabba

Yeah.

Emerson Lehman

Like when, you know, beautiful Green Bay, Wisconsin, check out the blue skies, sunshine and 70 degree weather.

Pete Schwabba

Like it helps the chamber of commerce.

You put that in the

Emerson Lehman

brochure

Pete Schwabba

because you want people to come and visit.

I like that.

I never heard of that before.

You learned something new today.

I did.

What is a chamber of commerce?

No, I'm just kidding.

Don't ask, don't get too into detail, man.

Be careful there.

That's cool.

I have to ask you too.

Have you seen F1?

Because you were the first person I thought of when I saw that movie.

I

Emerson Lehman

don't want to admit this.

I haven't yet.

You have to see it.

So the plan was to go see it with my dad.

Yeah.

And then by the time we finally got together, it was out of theaters.

Okay.

And I'm a little bummed about that because everybody I talked to, oh my gosh, you have to see it in theaters.

It was incredible

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in theaters.

Emerson Lehman

So I don't know if I want to like wait until

at some point I feel like there will be another showing or if I'm just gonna say, you know what, I'm gonna find a friend with a really

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big flat screen and internal light bulb.

Watch it on the old black and white.

Yeah, yeah.

So

Emerson Lehman

I need to watch it.

I've heard very good things from people in the racing community and from, I'm curious, how did you like it as a film

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scholar?

I didn't love it as a movie, the story.

Sure.

But the racing scenes, a guy like you, that's probably all you, I mean, you still wanna see a good movie, but the story was fine.

But it's something we've seen a million times.

But yeah, the racing scenes were amazing.

And Emerson, the coolest thing, and my son laughs at me because he liked it more than I did, but he said, I said the coolest thing about the whole movie is the pit crew.

I cannot believe how

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fast those guys worked.

Two seconds.

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How did they

Emerson Lehman

do that?

Two seconds, four new tires and two seconds, go.

Yeah, it's wild man.

Indy cars they take about like eight seconds because they fuel up the cars too, but okay.

Yeah f1 Two seconds

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and doesn't even seem if

Emerson Lehman

if they do two and a half seconds the commentators say all that was over slow stop Yeah,

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oh, it's

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wild.

It's wild

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man.

Did you see f1

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con?

Emerson Lehman

I

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watched it on my laptop

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I feel like that's worse than

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me watching it in my living

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room Conrad.

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I was laying in bed and I saw it.

I'm like, you know what?

Yeah, let's watch it and then I should rent a theater.

I think because how loud the cars are I think it would have been so much better.

Yeah, I'm pretty upset with

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myself that I it's really I should have just went on some Tuesday.

Yeah, I got a picture with Greg Marcus a couple weeks ago.

I just needed to plug that real quick Marcus theaters.

Pete Schwabba

Oh Marcus theaters.

Yeah.

Yeah, of course.

Emerson Lehman

Yeah, the guy who pops up on the

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oh Greg Marcus.

Yeah.

Yeah, of course.

Emerson Lehman

I was Very starstruck.

I

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try not to get

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starstruck.

I'm at my friend's wedding.

He's her like distant cousin.

Pete Schwabba

Oh, wow.

Okay.

And

Emerson Lehman

I walked right up to him.

I said, Mr. Marcus, I have to get a picture with you if you don't mind.

He goes, Oh, sure.

A lot shorter than I was expecting him to be.

But

Very kind guy.

He chucked up the deuce.

Oh,

Pete Schwabba

man.

Oh, I that's cool because our struck

I knew who you were, like Greg Marcus from the, he's on before the movies.

Yeah, he comes in with his popcorn.

It's a great ad.

It's fantastic.

I thought he meant like he was a racer too.

No, I did,

Emerson Lehman

I come in, I was just, yeah, talking about movie theaters, then I just, I felt I needed to share that with you real quick.

Pete Schwabba

That's awesome.

All right, we're gonna, we still have pickleball to cover.

We do.

But I'm gonna try to get through a couple of these texts.

Steady Eddie from the 608 says, Pete, Mad Magazine once printed a takeoff of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.

They called it Bella.

Belch casually and the some dunce kid.

Sounds like mad magazine.

America is getting soft.

We need to bring back the yard game jerts.

Some people said it was too dangerous, but I'm living proof that you only need one kidney.

Well done, steady Eddie.

Melissa from Willy Street in the 608 says, for the question of the night, I say Raleigh.

Oh, Raleigh fingers mustaches.

Those in the handlebar?

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Those are so cool.

are those those are kind of still in like you still see occasionally again if i could grow it i would have it button shops and that i miss

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landline telephones

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yeah

Emerson Lehman

there is nothing better than like sitting at dinner at night

and hearing the phone ring, and then being like, oh, who's calling?

And

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then

Emerson Lehman

finally you get caller ID, and oh, Graham is calling, but you still gotta, like, now it's just, phones are too accessible now.

Pete Schwabba

My parents still answer their landline, like it's, oh, the phone's ringing, like, it's nobody.

I missed that.

Nobody calls on a landline, I do too, but sadly.

I wish social media was gone and we could get that back.

I'm with you, buddy.

John Murray from Madison says they're selling tube tops at the Lofton Green Bay.

Yes, they are, John.

Come on down and grab one.

We have a few more minutes with our pal Emerson Lehman when we come back.

It's Pete Schwabba and Nightlight on the Civic Media Radio

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Network.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Welcome back.

This is Nightlight.

I am Pete Schwabba.

We have a few more minutes left here as we wind things down our pal Emerson Lehman, who is a Big Race fan.

He is also the host of Action 2 News This Morning here in Green Bay.

And you might...

Or maybe if you listen to the show, like most of you do, you know that he is a pickleball aficionado.

Fresh off a first place win in Appleton.

Tell us about that and what's new in the world of pickleball.

Yeah, man.

Emerson Lehman (guest)

It's been a good year in pickleball land for myself, at least.

I've been very fortunate.

Shout out to my many partners, Anna, Carolyn, JJ.

They've all helped me get some get some W's this year.

And yeah, it's been a lot of fun.

Just the Mary Beth Neenhouse pickleball tournament was a couple of weeks ago.

Swept the day that down there one men's in mixed.

So that was cool.

Don't get to say that often.

So

Pete Schwabba (host)

that's

Emerson Lehman (guest)

incredible.

I was pretty happy about that.

Yeah.

A lot of a lot of good players.

And it was it's always nice to just metal, but to be able to stand on the top step twice is pretty felt pretty fortunate to do that.

So do you ever win money?

Like at these there are some moneyball tournaments those ones those ones were not But there are certain ones throughout the year that you will Participate in and those are really where you get some of the top players So it's fun because you to go

Pete Schwabba (host)

kind of test

Emerson Lehman (guest)

your skills against some people who are a lot better than I am So it's it's always fun to be able to you want to play people that are gonna make you better.

You don't want to

Like you always want to be getting better.

So it's it's I enjoy if I can find someone to play with I'd be playing a tournament every weekend So

Pete Schwabba (host)

it's it's fun to

Emerson Lehman (guest)

be able to go to some of those bigger ones and play against really good competition

Pete Schwabba (host)

It'd be sweet if you did something so spectacular at pickleball You had to cover that with your day job and you could interview

Emerson Lehman (guest)

yourself.

It's funny man our our producer Garrett he loves to put I'll post some like pickleball videos on social media and he loves to just

pluck those into our shows without really telling me and it'll pop up and

Conrad (producer)

oh Emerson played pickleball this weekend, and I'm like, oh, this is what I posted on Instagram yesterday.

And I scare it.

Emerson Lehman (guest)

They help promote the brand a little bit.

Yeah.

When we can, especially on our live stream or web shows where that happens a lot.

Pete Schwabba (host)

I mean, I know it's a hobby, but

How far can you take pickleball?

Like you have a pretty good dig and you're pretty good at it.

How do you do, like, would you travel more?

Or what would you do?

Emerson Lehman (guest)

Yeah, like, it's, that's what it is.

It's a hobby.

It keeps me active.

It keeps me having fun.

It kind of scratches that competitive itch.

I've always been a competitor my whole life growing up.

So it definitely scratches that itch.

I'm not.

going pro by any means, but it's just fun to travel around the state or even like the Midwest.

And like I said, just go to these different tournaments and it's fun to win some of the local ones, but it's also fun to go to some of these more regional ones and play against players who are better than you, some of them a lot better than you.

And it like, oh, I might be like, I have a lot to work on.

I have a lot to get better at.

So it's fun to do that and kind of humble yourself and also

Learn from them right learn every time you step on the court and just have fun and compete and There's so many really cool people that you meet through the sport like anything right you anything that you're passionate about you're gonna meet other people who are also passionate about it, so

Definitely made a lot of friends that through pickleball that I'm very fortunate to have now and what a great

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day I'm at too.

He kind of staying shit.

Yeah, you get to run around, you get to go to Marinette occasionally.

Emerson Lehman (guest)

I'll be back up there first weekend of October.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Oh, dude, we'll be back Conrad.

Bus trip, get everybody together.

It's a nightlight bus trip.

Cindy from Wattpond, she's in the 920 says she misses disco dance bars and locations.

That's a second disco one.

I love disco music.

Was it before my time?

You don't have to rub it in.

Sorry.

He's younger than me.

He's better looking than me, and he's got an Emmy.

You got better hair

Emerson Lehman (guest)

than I do, so.

Pete Schwabba (host)

It's a wig.

Yeah.

Don't even start.

There it is.

Jack from Merrimack, he's in the 414, says outdated, but I wish, but I wish would come back.

The fedora.

There you go.

I had a fedora in eighth grade.

Oh, those were fint.

I love fedora.

I thought I was the coolest kid ever.

You probably were.

It's gutsy to wear those sometimes though.

It was way too

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small for my head.

I got a big head.

Does it fall off?

It just didn't look good, but I thought it

Pete Schwabba (host)

looked great.

I love fedoras.

Jack says, I still have my dad's Kavanaugh.

Oh, it's like he's getting very specific with his fedoras.

And from 1953, I wear it when I go out at my jazz gigs.

Jack's a musician, I love that.

I really enjoy the fashion from those late jazz days.

One of my women music friends wears those kinds of clothes too, to her gigs.

Mark from the sax says, on that 70s show, the fondue night didn't turn out so well for

Oh, do you remember that Conrad?

You see that episode?

Caller

No, I can't remember that episode.

I've seen it.

I've

Pete Schwabba (host)

seen that show so many

Caller

times.

I can't

Pete Schwabba (host)

remember.

Mark also says it wouldn't be top 40, but King Crimson in the court of Crimson King led Zeppelin and Moody Blues Rush, obviously, in reference to the Dan Marcus' appearance here.

And then we have a stream text.

We have to get to the ending.

And then I'm back.

Thanks for talking about that picture.

If you're watching on the stream, tune in right now, because Emerson, it's an action shot.

And those are pretty tight shorts, buddy, but what's with you?

That's a show off your legs.

Got a lot of chicks playing pickleball?

He's nodding.

That doesn't go over well on radio.

This is not your TV gig, Kyle.

Yeah, sure.

I would imagine if you meet a girl that's great at pickleball, that's an instant love connection almost, or potential.

Conrad (producer)

Potential, I guess.

Pete Schwabba (host)

Yeah, sure.

All right.

I'll keep my eyes open.

All right.

And Marinette, we're going to connect.

Emerson Joe listening on the stream says the ending of the graduate is also great But more prophetic than funny.

Oh, that's right.

They were on the back of the bus Riding on the bus.

I have to see I need to rewatch that.

He says Catherine Ross is amazing in both and then finally one more text here John from Madison says $3 pitchers of beer bring it back.

Oh You got to go to Ball State John is that with a three bucks Wednesday night cheaper Wednesday night penny pitchers

Penny pitchers, okay.

Yeah, man.

How are they making?

That's a lot of volume.

They're

Conrad (producer)

not.

Wednesday nights at the Chug.

Dude,

Pete Schwabba (host)

this is fun.

You're always so much fun when you come on the show.

I appreciate it, man.

It's always good to be here.

Wait so long next time.

Okay,

Caller

sounds

Pete Schwabba (host)

good.

I got you next week.

Yeah.

My dearest Emerson, please come back at night late.

Have you ever done the popcorn pick of the week?

No.

All right.

We'll have them.

We'll do that one of these days.

All right.

Emerson layman, ladies and gentlemen.

My thanks also to Dan Marcus.

Check out Emerson on the WBAY Action2 news this morning.

He does great work there.

Thank you for all your texts and calls.

We are coming back tomorrow night to do it all again.

On behalf of the lovable producer Conrad, I'm Pete Schwabba saying good night, Wisconsin.

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