Wisconsin Quirks and Spooky Stories (Hour 2)

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Welcome back tonight, light folks.

Very exciting that we hear that intro and the man who happens to have voiced that amazing intro is with us.

Todd Michaels, we will get back to Todd in just a minute right now.

I just want to say welcome to Act 2.

We have a great show here tonight.

I had a few days off, Conrad.

I think it's going well.

What do you think?

You're doing the best you can.

OK.

Remind me next time, John and Gordy fill in to just rip into you so hard you came in.

And it's a stupid hat,

by

the way.

All right, so we have Todd Michaels on the phone.

Matt Miller will be here in just a little bit.

I'm gonna ask Matt where he saw Highest to Lowest because I looked for that movie.

It supposedly was in wide relief, but I couldn't find it anywhere.

I can't wait to talk to Matt about weapons.

We'll get to that in just a bit.

Folks, if you're not playing, you should be.

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It's an it's a contest exclusive to nightlight because

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It happens tonight, tomorrow night, and Friday.

So if you've got the app open, text in the keyword now, which is play, P-L-A-Y.

And I kind of hope Todd wins, but I kind of hope he doesn't, because I don't want to be in the middle of any kind of weirdness here.

Yeah, I'm sure that won't happen.

We've got our question of the night folks is Bloody Mary chasers measuring distance and time instead of miles.

What's your favorite Wisconsin quirk?

Let us know we will catch up on texts in just a few minutes But right now let's get back to our pal Todd Michaels who is a that's a great background by the way Todd It what is that like a green screen or did you actually do some some Gothic?

No, I've got I did some some improvements here.

I got a couple of screens behind me and all that I got a question for you.

Yeah

I'm noticing a lot on your social media.

People doing weird stuff by your window over there.

What's going on with that?

I

can't.

I can't.

I don't know.

It's just something they're drawn to.

You're the guy that we should be asking about this because for whatever reason people are drawn to that window.

It could be something strange happening.

Yeah, it's just like random fit people right wasn't Conrad out there one night and like some weird shorts or something

He was

I believe that I believe that but as somebody who cares about you deeply Conrad let me just tell you Get rid of them

Somehow Conrad found a pair of flood shorts.

I don't

even know how that's

possible

Uh, there, they should go a little lower though, past the knee Conrad.

That's all I'll say.

Just for,

and just add to that, please.

Okay.

Please get them a little bit

lower.

If you could, Todd, if you want to be in the window picture, just let me know and I'll set it

up.

Listen, I might just show up one night.

I can

tell

you I'll be doing this.

I'll be doing this.

Todd Michaels is my guest, folks.

You could see his work or hear his work.

He produces and is part of a couple podcasts called Real Ghost Stories Online and Hidden Killers with Tony Bruski.

He is a, what I like to call, a radio legend and a paranormal investigator, and he is with us here for a few more minutes.

Todd.

What do you make of the Bermuda Triangle?

Do you think there's anything there?

There's been an inordinate amount of disappearances there, crashes there.

It's just the weather, right?

I mean, you're a paranormal investigator, but you're also kind of a skeptic and you really investigate these things.

I think it probably has something more to do with the weather and the wind currents and all that kind of stuff in that particular location.

The fact of the matter is that, as you mentioned,

There have been a ton of wrecks.

There have been a ton of missing planes, ships, all that kind of stuff in that area.

So it's got to be more than just the weather, right?

It's got to be some sort of something to do with the geography as well that would somehow hide the evidence of these wrecks of missing ships, missing planes and missing people and all that kind of stuff.

Weather probably plays into it, but it can't be the only thing.

You know, and could there be like, let's say in people's subconscious, once a few planes go down or ships are lost or whatever, does it get in a pilot or captain's mind?

Oh boy, it's the Bermuda Triangle and they almost psyched themselves out somehow.

Is that a thing?

Well, I think, I mean, you can tie that into paranormal stuff too, right?

If you have kind of a spooky thing happen.

Does that mean that all of a sudden every bump in the middle of the night, you go, oh my gosh, it's a ghost?

Very similar.

And I also think that as to your point, if you are flying there, if you're a captain of a ship in that area, and maybe you do run into turbulence or rough waters or whatever, maybe it plays with your psyche enough

that

maybe you don't make the best decisions that you should make in that situation.

You panic, exactly.

and you do things that you normally wouldn't do, and that just ends up in tragedy.

Conrad and I had planned a snorkeling trip in the Bermuda Triangle, and I think we're, he's got cold feet.

I don't know, that's your call, Con.

I think I'm not gonna do

it.

I'll swear to God, I'll give you each a $50 bill if I get a picture of both of you in snorkeling gear.

Conrad in the short shorts.

Sure.

Then only 25 for Conrad if he puts the short shorts

on.

Todd, all right, in all your investigating, tell me something that literally scared the bejesus out of you.

Was there something that you couldn't explain or that really creeped you out?

It goes back to a video I was actually watching.

I've done so many investigations.

I've actually forgot a lot of this stuff that happened.

But the other night,

I was talking to somebody and we were talking about the TV show that I was a part of at one point, which was a haunted state.

And we went out to locations in Wisconsin.

The weirdest thing, and I've seen shadows.

I've seen shadow figures.

I've heard voices, all things that should not be happening that did.

But the one thing that really just always blew me away was at Nelson's Hall on Washington Island.

And we were doing a ghost box session.

Ghost box is basically a radio that just keeps shuffling through all the frequencies.

And people believe that you can communicate using that type of equipment with ghosts.

And we were using it and we were recording a spirit box session or a ghost box session.

There were three of us in a little group.

There was a camera guy filming it as well.

But in this group, we're standing in a circle.

We've got the spirit box and the recorder in front of us.

And we had it down toward our, our like waist level, but right in front of our faces, like right between us, we heard a growl, like an audible growl.

And we heard it the first time.

And the first, you know, first thing I'm thinking is, okay, maybe we didn't need enough in our

stomach.

Exactly.

But, but it wasn't in that location.

We've all heard stomach growls and it wasn't like that.

And we all immediately went, oh my gosh, that was a growl.

It didn't come out of the spirit box.

It was literally in the air in front of us.

And we kind of blew it off.

And immediately after that, it happened again, but even louder.

And the thing about that trip was that we left that investigation on Washington Island and all of us on the team, there were four of us, all of us.

here had weird experiences after.

So it was almost like something followed us back from Washington Island.

And I was, for a long time, I was kind of afraid of going back to Washington Island because it was kind of severe for me, but I ended up going back and things were fine.

But that was probably the thing that went, holy crap, I've never had anything like this happen before.

That's why I don't think I would ever want to do what you do because I would be worried that, you know,

I'm a skeptic.

It's like the George Costanza thing.

I thought you don't believe in God.

I do for the bad things.

I'd be worried I'd pick up a tail or something.

Like you said that in the past on the show, like they follow you home, these spirits or whatever they are, you know.

They can, right?

That's certainly something that can happen.

I think the thing that's interesting about it is that, and I'm learning more about it as I'm working in the true crime world as well.

I think humans are scarier than ghosts for the most part.

So that I always keep that in the back of my mind.

I guess the Todd Michaels, we have Todd for one more question, I guess.

But check out his work at Real Ghost Stories Online and Hidden Killers with Tony Bruski.

Can I can I can I use the time to tell a quick story about my new boss?

Absolutely.

Yeah.

So Tony Bruski, I actually hired in radio back in like 1998.

96, 98, something like that.

He was 14 years old and he wanted to get into radio really bad.

So he showed up at the radio station on his bike.

Okay.

And remember he was with his mom and she's like, Oh, you know, Tony's just very interested in this.

Could you help Tony out?

So I kind of took him under my wing and got him into radio and he's been doing it ever since.

And now the guy makes tons of cash.

Wow.

And so I guess you just felt bad for me and gave me a gig.

But thank God for, you know,

crazy that you work for him now.

It is.

And every once, you know, we'll, we'll do our shows and stuff.

And then he'll have a quick conversation about something.

He goes, you remember the time that, and it's always something that I wouldn't have remembered except he brought it up.

And then it's like, Oh my God, yes, I do remember that.

Cause he was so impressionable.

I'm sure.

Absolutely.

And now he's a star and it's because of me.

I mean, let's be honest.

We've got a text from Jim from Appleton.

He says, for Todd, I just read an article in the Smithsonian Magazine.

The hypothesis because of the islands and reefs, it creates a lot of rouge.

Rogue, I think he means.

Rogue waves to help explain the shipwrecks.

Yeah, it's weird with Dork County.

It's such a beautiful place, but there are so many haunted stories, but I still don't think about that when I go there.

I've just captivated by the beauty of the place.

I think you're better off not thinking about it.

Absolutely.

Enjoy what it is, right?

Yeah.

I think Dork County probably does have a lot.

of paranormal stuff there and a lot of it has to do with the shipping.

Todd from Madison, he's in the 608 says, Todd, please visit Freeport, Illinois, a swath of haunted homes that were built on top of moved Civil War soldiers grave sites.

It's a really creepy reality for several homeowners in the 600, 700 and 800 blocks of Lincoln Boulevard, exactly across the street from Freeport City's cemetery where bodies are now in a mass grave and many individual marked graves.

You ever done something like that, a mass grave, Todd, investigative?

I have not, but I will tell you this.

If you look up the history of any city or town, even Oshkosh, which is where I'm at, tons of stories of how, as they were building the city, they wanted to put this up.

And I actually think UW Oshkosh, there are buildings there that were built on top of graves, cemeteries, and they didn't move all the bodies.

So it's not unheard of.

And so when people say, well, we've got a brand new house, but there seems to be something going on.

Well, it's not, sometimes it doesn't happen in the house.

Sometimes.

The land just holds energy.

The dirt under the house, not so much.

Annie from Watertown says, if not for black boxes, there would be a lot more mysteries or no.

There are often cases, well done,

Annie.

She's right.

There are often cases of no reason or they never radioed after that.

And until they use the info, cockpit talk, the data of all systems, et cetera, and figure it out.

Great text.

Thank you, Annie.

Ty, this has been fun.

Thank you, buddy, as always.

Thanks for inviting me

back.

Anytime I'm gonna go mess up the kitchen right now and not clean it in your honor So there ain't nothing you can do about it.

We'll talk soon, buddy.

See you.

All right Todd Michaels ladies and gentlemen Our question of the night is what is your favorite Wisconsin quirk AJ AJ from the 608 says hey P and K that's Pete and Conrad Conrad Bloody Mary's need no chaser and you can have them anytime not just for breakfast or brunch people have given me crap for that for dinner

Always drive in time, not miles, and Wisconsin is quirky for the accent.

Didn't know I had one until I traveled outside of the Midwest.

Well done, AJ.

Those are great points.

Yeah, we didn't touch on the accent.

Well, we don't realize we have one.

We don't

have

one.

No.

Matt Rothschild from the 608.

Our pal Matt says, Quirk, letting kids drink in bars with their parents.

Oh my God.

I, you know, I did that a couple

times.

I know you did.

Your own parents got you hammered.

That is definitely a quirk.

Thank you, Matt.

We're coming right back with our pal Matt Miller, Milwaukee Film Critic on the Civic Media Radio Network.

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We are barreling through a Wednesday night.

This is, it's weird.

Even when you take a few days off, like when you just like talking about show business and movies and TV, it's kind of like you're still on vacation.

So we're having fun here tonight at Nightlight.

John Murray apologized to you Conrad for, he's in the 608 Madison guy, regular texture.

Hey Conrad, I sincerely apologize for calling you Corey.

like 42 times.

When did that?

Would you guys pal

around or something?

What's happening there?

You know, that's all right.

Just make sure you get it right this time with the K. Yeah.

We'll be fine going forward.

He says, my bad, love you and Pete, and really enjoy your show.

Thank you, John.

And Christine from Slinger in the 414 says, Anna Hay.

Is that a Wisconsin quirk thing?

Maybe it's a texture trying to communicate with another texture.

Anna

Hay.

But she's got the question mark.

That's why I thought it was my thing, like going to the store, Pete.

I thought of another quirk and it's I suppose people say that all the time I suppose well and it's when they're leaving well I suppose it's like they don't say they're leaving they just that's become and it obviously derives from well I suppose I'm gonna go or something like that now it's just I suppose you know great Wisconsin you're

bringing that up it reminds me of a video that Charlie Barron's did and it was just them going into a bar saying like four words and then all of them at the same time well I suppose

Oh, seriously?

It was George Kittle and his friend, too, and it was hilarious.

You can't.

Charlie Barron has talked about everything.

You can't talk about anything anymore.

He's already covered it.

Hey, this is exciting, folks.

One of our favorites is waiting patiently on the stream here.

We talk with this next gentleman from time to time about movies.

He is a fine film critic from Milwaukee, Wisconsin, our state's largest city, Conrad.

And he joins us now here on the stream, as he often does.

Mr. Matt Miller, hey,

buddy.

Howdy, howdy, howdy.

Thanks for having me.

Well, it's great to have you.

You were on vacation, I understand.

I was.

I was in the fine city of Quebec City, the Great North, Colin French Edition.

Yeah, wow.

I've been to Montreal.

I've never been to Quebec City.

I highly recommend Quebec City.

I truly loved it there.

We were mostly palling around in old Quebec, just...

Europe in in the in the North America

Yeah,

or just ate my body weight and cheese curds and french fries and gravy and it was outstanding

How do the cheese curds compare to here in the dairy state?

Oh tough I mean the thing is I never I had the cheese curds as a part of poutine so I You know you put it you put cover it with gravy and french fries

That's going to win.

Sure.

But no, it was a great time.

Got some Quebec Nordiques gear.

So

that

was a really nice

time.

Wow, that's great.

Well, it's good to have you back in the state that you call home, that you review movies in, and we've got a lot to get to.

So let's jump in.

I want to ask you, let's start with weapons, Matt.

Yeah.

I saw it, and I liked it.

To be honest, I like barbarian better.

But I thought weapons was really cool, very creepy.

Uh, what did you think?

Yeah, I really like weapons too.

I think it's just a scary movie.

It's very like it is one of the few horror movies, mainstream horror movies that really kind of got under my skin and I like lost some sleep about it because there's just, I love the urban legend campfire tale.

vibe of that movie.

It really has a kind of haunted, you know, town legend vibe to it that just really creeps me out.

I will agree with you a little bit on the barbarian thing because I think weapons is a better movie, but I think barbarian is better at being about something.

I think Barbarian is a movie about, you know, brutality under the surface of, you know, polite exteriors and about, you know, bad men and nice exteriors.

And weapons is this movie that you would think it's so loaded where, you know, you have this very, you know, a teacher being accused of messing with her students and, you know, disappearing students, a classroom of kids, very like school shooting, you know, kind of.

imagery it's playing with and it's playing with all these ideas and themes.

And then the movie is kind of like, nah, we're not really, we're not really about any of that.

We're not really, we're not really a movie about anything.

We're a movie about freaking you out.

And as a movie that's about freaking you out as being a thrill ride, I think weapons is very good, very well done.

But I think if you're looking for a movie about stuff, I think Barbarian is the better of the two Zach Craig movies.

That's the director.

It's interesting because people are flipping out over weapons and it's good.

And I don't mean to say I didn't like it, but it is one of those.

I kind of had to piece it together at the end.

Like, oh, yeah, they did the voodoo thing earlier.

And then that's what she was doing, trying to you kind of have to think about it.

They don't.

Whereas barbarian is just a more straight up story, I guess, where you're like, oh, my gosh, you know, but

a little bit.

Barbarian, the thing that Zack Kregger's two movies definitely have in common is that they are very zigzaggy in terms of.

how they approach telling a story.

They'll start in one direction, and then they will immediately jarringly go in a new direction.

And then they'll go in another new direction.

And Craig talks about how when he's writing the movie script, he started in sketch comedy with the whitest kids you know.

And he yeah, he's kind of like a Jordan Peele in that way, where he made this massive leap to mainstream horror.

And he talks about how when he's writing a script, he always wants to be trying to do something that he's not expecting when he like he's

always trying to do something unpredictable, which is a tricky, I mean, Ask M Night Shyamalan, how that works out,

you know,

that's a tricky kind of game to play.

And I think it also results in a movie like weapons that is a great thrill ride, a great horror fun time.

But if you're looking for a kind of coherent

Theme a coherent story to it.

I think I don't it's not quite as rewarding as you want it to be but as a movie that will shake you up and will have you jump and creep you out

thumbs up.

Yeah,

definitely.

Then it keeps you it keeps you like guessing like what is happening like it started like Josh Brolin making that line from the moon to the house and I'm like oh they're gonna figure it out.

Nope, they're going this

way.

Yeah, anytime the door opened to that house and like in that way where it was like clearly no one was opening the door and the door behind it is just like pitch black darkness.

I'm just like

perfectly eerie.

I know Lincheon gets thrown around a lot, and this is by no means a David Lynch movie, but it does have that kind of suburban, creepy urban legend feel to

it.

Absolutely.

All right.

Matt Miller is here, folks.

Milwaukee Film Critic.

We're going to get into more movie talk with Matt after the news, and we'll give you the key word again in our big last chance summer getaway here at Nightlight.

It's Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.

And Pete Schwabba, great to have you with me on this Wednesday coming to you from beautiful downtown Green Bay on a gorgeous summer night.

Hopefully we'll have a few more of these.

Paula, Conrad's mom chiming in says, old fashions are better in Wisconsin.

I don't think that's any,

I don't

know if anybody would dispute that.

Yeah.

Certainly not anybody in Wisconsin.

Matt Miller is with us, folks.

We'll have a few more minutes with Matt here tomorrow night on the show.

Uh, WGBW morning personality and radio legend.

Do I throw that word around too much?

Maybe, but he is a legend.

He's been around a long time.

He'll be here tomorrow to do the popcorn pick.

Matt, have you ever done the popcorn pick of the week?

I don't believe I have.

I

don't believe I've had the honor.

Okay.

Conrad, take a memo.

That's ridiculous.

I can't believe Matt has never done that.

We'll do that in the coming weeks.

And then Emerson Layman, WBAY Morning Anchor will join us tomorrow in studio.

Dan will be here in studio too.

Emerson is going to tell us all about the Milwaukee mile.

So he's a big racing fan.

We'll talk to Emerson tomorrow.

He's always fun to have on the program as well.

Right now, Matt.

So, all right, you saw.

We talked about weapons.

And just to put a button on that, that run those kids do with their arms out like that.

How creepy is one simple thing?

Yeah.

I mean, people were trying to be like, this movie is made over $100 million.

It's the lone hit of this late summer.

And Hollywood's trying to figure out, what was it?

They had a great hook.

They had a great hook and a great image to sell this movie on.

Look, kids running into the night and disappear.

That is it is a great hook.

Sometimes a good premise is enough.

Absolutely.

Did you like Freaky or Friday?

I haven't seen it.

I was fine with Freaky or Friday.

It's not as good as the first one.

I actually rewatched the original Disney movie and it's great.

It's still really tremendous.

The Freaky Year Friday is still really, it's a nice time.

I like Jamie Lee Curtis.

I like seeing Lindsay Lohan back on the screen again.

She is a good actress, putting aside all the, you know, tabloid who's a what.

Like there's a bunch of really good performers in it.

You can kind of tell that it was supposed to be originally a Disney plus movie.

It was supposed to be a streaming movie.

And the Disney was like, what if we made money off of this?

Go figure it's it's worked out well for them.

Um, it just has that kind of soft focus look that kind of cheap look that, you know,

it

feels hallmarky.

Um, but the performers are good and when all things said and done, I want to laugh and I laughed enough.

So I enjoyed Freaky or Friday.

All right.

Good to know.

And here's one I want to get to, uh, highest to lowest.

It said in, I do a thing every week where I talk about the movies that are coming out, Matt, and that was.

One, a couple weeks ago, it came out with nobody too.

I was excited to see them both.

highest to lowest.

I think you had to go to Milwaukee was the closest place near me.

I don't understand what is going on.

It's Spike Lee.

It's a two-time Oscar winner in the lead role based on a really cool Japanese film.

And it got great reviews.

I don't know what they were doing.

But did you like that film, highest to

lowest?

Spike Lee covering Akira Kurosawa with Denzel Washington should not be a hard sell.

And unfortunately, A24 and Apple kind of dropped the ball on this movie.

I don't

know if it's because the early festival reviews were kind of, you know, as festival reviews can be, if it's not incredible right off the bat, sometimes festivals are, you know, a little easy to kind of, you know, check things off.

Yeah, I

don't know if it's the fact that it's two studios kind of handling this movie.

They kind of, you know, it was none of their exclusive baby.

So, you know, it kind of got half efforts.

Whatever the case is, they bungled it.

This should have been, you know, a movie that made some money for these guys.

I don't love this movie.

I love The Five Bloods.

Spike Lee is a great filmmaker.

Black landmen do the right thing.

Yeah.

Incredible filmmaker.

The first half of Highest to Lowest is pretty not good.

Really?

A lot of people will argue that it's him purposefully making a stiff movie to kind of show that he's, you know, at the back end that it becomes more lively.

But it's just kind of hard to be like, yeah, half this movie is very stiff and kind of boringly made.

You have to wait an hour to get good.

That's not a great selfie movie.

No.

Yeah, it's not as tight as me.

And also, when you're remaking High and Low, which is a perfectly directed movie, like I saw that for the first time before this new one came out, and it's incredible that movie's blocking that movie.

It is a perfectly directed film.

And to be like, I'm going to remake this movie.

Half of it is going to be as apathetically directed as possible.

It's such a strange choice.

When it cooks, it cooks.

Like there's a bunch of really incredible scenes near the end of that movie where you see Spike Lee kind of wrestling with culture and wrestling with his place in it.

That stuff is absolutely tremendous.

And obviously you have Denzel Washington acting out in those scenes.

And Denzel, don't know if you heard great acting.

But you know, not to be cliche, but you know, it's a movie of real highs and lows.

It really is exactly that.

Okay, fair enough.

Well, I'm going to keep.

I want to see it.

I'm going to see it either way, but yeah, the reviews are great.

Spike Lee makes a movie.

He is one of those directors when he shows up with a movie on a big screen.

See it because it will

at

least be interesting.

It will at least give you something to chew on afterwards.

It's the same thing with Paul Thomas Anderson and Darren Aronofsky, all directors who have movies coming out with them the next month.

So while Hollywood is like, oh, no, there's nothing that we have no blockbusters in theater.

If you're a film fan, it's a feast out there.

PTA, Aaron Ofsky, a Coen brother movie.

Like, there's a lot of really good stuff

out there.

You know, I still never seen She's Gotta Have It.

Spike Lee's first, the film that kind of put him on the map.

Do The Right Thing was the first film I saw of his, but is she, how does, I don't know if you've even seen it or haven't seen it in years, but does that hold up?

She's gotta have it, and would you recommend that?

It's a little bit like Nolan's following.

It's nothing like that in terms of plot or anything, but you watch it and you're like, oh yeah, this guy is, he's gonna be something.

You can see the blueprint of the future.

If you wanna watch it for that, it's not one of my favorite Spike Lee's, that's for sure, but I do think it's interesting to watch just like...

Man, he's gonna take off or like you can see the talent.

Yeah

It's hard

to watch stuff like that sometimes when you you know, you got to transport yourself back and say, okay, I don't know this director I've never seen him before.

This is his first movie.

It was the mid 80s, you know, I guess that's

stuff that was special the stuff like the signature Spike Lee dolly shots or you know, the Christopher Nolan playing with time stuff, you know, we're so used to it.

They're they're cliche now, you know, when you have to jump to watching memento or following and or something like she's got a

And it's like, oh no, this is,

this felt

really new and special at the

time.

All right, let's, my guest is Matt Miller.

He is Milwaukee Film Critic.

You can follow Matt.

You're not on Twitter anymore.

You're on Blue Sky, right?

I am still on Twitter.

Oh, okay.

But

I'm also on Blue Sky.

Same.

Same place, a man about film.

So yeah, you can find me in both of those places.

Give him a follow.

All right, now nobody too.

I was like,

most people.

My son and I watched the first one, I think it was just a Netflix film, and I met Bob Odin Kirk several times back in the day.

He's one of my favorite guys, just the nicest guy you'd ever meet.

I said, let's give this a chance.

It was great.

I was blown away.

I was not expecting what I saw.

And my son went to see Nobody 2.

I was excited to see it.

And he didn't like it.

And I was like,

Wow, because the reviews were pretty good, and he's kind of jaded for a 24 year old, but I don't know, are his feelings justified, Matt?

Did you like it?

I want to like both the nobody movies more than I do I enjoy I had a decent time with nobody too.

It's a different tone.

I would say it's a little bit more cartoony It's a little bit more goofy.

It basically it kind of takes place in the Wisconsin Dells Like I love it doesn't say it takes place in the Wisconsin Dells, but it's clearly a Wisconsin locale one of the producers I think David Leach is originally Wisconsin native So I think he worked that into nobody too on some level

I want the nobody to and the nobody movies in general to be either dumber or smarter.

They kind of fall into that place of, you know, do you want to make an action movie about like, you know, this like aging, sad masculinity and like these, these men who don't know what to do with themselves.

Do you want to make a movie about that?

Or do you want to make a silly movie where a guy

you know, murders a bunch of people in a water park while Sharon Stone cackles in the background like a maniac.

I'm fine with both of those movies, but they kind of awkwardly coexist in both of these movies.

I had a little bit more fun with Nobody 2.

I think the action is a little bit more vibrant, is a little bit more playful.

That's, they got a new director for Nobody 2.

Timo, Timo, I totally, I'm massacring his name.

Timo Timo-Hara, I think his name is.

Very good action director.

He's doing a lot of fun, brutal stuff in this movie.

But yeah, I wanted to have either more fun or get more from the movie.

And so, you know what?

It's a late August movie.

It's a late August action movie.

It totally satisfies your desires for that.

Okay, very well said.

I am still going to see it and I'm going to track down highest to lowest, although I guess we can stream that on September 5th.

We gave

At home, we had a little family staycation last week, and my daughter had never seen collateral, and she loves Tom Cruise, so we gave that another watch.

I almost a perfect movie to me.

It's it's no fat in that film.

Yeah, I do really let might be my favorite Michael Mann movie.

I

love the nocturnal imagery of it.

I love the kind of nighttime vision.

I think it's an excellent use of both Jamie Foxx and Tom Cruise weaponizing Tom Cruise's insane intensity.

Yeah.

Jamie Foxx is, you know, kind of

Charisma and his ability to kind of like morph into whatever he needs to I think that movie is tremendous Mark Ruffalo You've ever seen in your life just the greasiest looking mustache dude of all time.

He's really great in that Yeah, I the collateral is just a really tremendous

and when they when they introduced Mark Ruffalo's character He's like in a trans am he's got his hair slick back and it's this music

like Is it a handlebar mustache too?

Yeah,

he looks great.

He's awesome.

It's a great movie and the music is great.

And it's, I agree with you.

It's Michael Mann at his best.

Um, we

got, and it's hidden before he went fully digital and like later digital movies look so smeary and I know some people love them, but like some people love the look of public enemies and Miami vice.

I, I would much rather collateral.

I think collateral is a much better kind of visual look.

I agree.

100%.

Um,

We've got, you said we could do a movie's past and present, like what's coming up?

What excites you, Matt?

What's between now and while this weekend, I guess, is Labor Day's already here, but what else can we look forward to at the theater?

Well, like I said, you know, Hollywood is like, oh no, the box office is bad, and I'm looking at these upcoming weeks, and I'm like, look at all these interesting original movies coming out.

Totally

agree.

Yeah, so this weekend you've got a new Darren Aronofsky movie caught stealing starring Austin Butler and Zoe Kravitz.

Looks fun, looks like a kind of like scuzzy crime movie that I think that's going to be a good time.

You know, you've got two indie movies, one called Twinless that got a lot of really good hype out of Sundance.

Another one called Splitsville about this kind of open relationship, two friends and two relationships going in their separate ways.

It's supposed to be very funny.

I'm excited to check that one out as well.

You've got the long walk.

the new Stephen King adaptation that looks really good, directed by Francis Lawrence, who did Constantine and the Hunger Games.

Kind of an underrated director.

I really like him a lot.

And then at the end of September, you've got a new Paul Thomas Anderson movie with Leonardo DiCaprio, one battle after another.

Really good.

I don't know if the studio knows what to sell You know, I you can tell the studio is like is it an action movie and it's a comedy.

We don't know what to do We don't know how to sell this is the opposite of weapons.

We do

But they gave Paul Thomas Anderson $100 million to make like a Thomas pension riff.

And I'm like, yeah, 10 out of 10, put it in my veins.

Like I want to, I want to see the hell out of that.

Absolutely.

I'm sure people will talk about how it's a massive flop and how it didn't make enough money.

And I will be sitting there going, wow, I enjoy.

Thank you.

Somebody gave $100 million to Paul Thomas Anderson and said, go wild.

And I hope he does.

I hope it's a great time.

Matt, thank you so much as always, buddy.

We'll get back to you.

We'd love to have you do the popcorn pick, but thanks as always.

Great stuff.

I would be honored Pete.

It is always a great time.

Thanks for having me.

All right.

Matt Miller, check out his work.

We're coming right back to finish up with your texts, folks.

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Welcome back.

I'm Pete Schwabber.

This is Night Light, a Wednesday a version of Night Light.

I think I just said a Wednesday aversion of night light

We don't want that.

I don't know if that means anything, but kind of sounded cool Our question the night is what was your or what is your favorite Wisconsin quirk?

like a Bloody Mary chaser calling a water fountain a bubbler My favorite I think of the night is Matt Rothschild saying that we bring our kids to the bar kids can drink if their parents are with them

That's a that's a great one John in the 608 John Murray says here in Scotson We eat cold brats for breakfast before we go to a neighborhood festival Where we enjoy music and eat more brats for lunch my cousins in Oakland, California think brats look gross and will not even try one Well, he did there he asked a question and made a statement call it's a call back to my quirk Here's where I'm at with brats

I've eaten enough of them in my life, and I'm getting older.

I don't want to eat more brats But I see one at a party and I'm gonna attack it like I'm on the discovery channel That's the problem and usually I'll say I'll have one brat this summer just to have one But I usually end up having like four or five.

They're so good, you know last week I went to Walmart And I was just looking through their deli section or another deli there froze, you know their meat section

and

I found a Chipotle brat.

Oh

And, boy, was that good.

Here's what I'll say about brats.

Like, Italian sausage, like, if you most meat or protein does not taste good unless you doctor it up.

Yeah, I mean, you got to put something.

Whether it's salmon, chicken, it's all bland, but a bratwurst on its own has that salty, cured, it's probably the best protein without any kind of condiment or seasoning, I guess.

You know what I put on it?

Is hot honey ranch Did you tell me that no the other one I told you about was that

that mustard

that cherry

honey

mustard

Yeah, that's not a

good too.

I've already gone through that.

That's gone.

I Can't get more I

literally put it on like everything solid two

weeks like the Sydney Sweeney soap you can't find it anywhere John Murray in the 608 also says in Skansen drinking tons of beer is a rite of passage change happens really really slow I suppose

I think he means, I suppose.

John also says, in Wisconsin, fibs are the enemy, even though they visit all year and spend a billion dollars a year.

Maybe we drink too much beer.

Logic is optional on this one.

Thank you, John.

John has fun with the question.

I love that.

There we go, black box.

Let's go to the stream.

Our pal Dave from Marinette, originally from Marinette says, how we pronounce Creek.

Oh, that's a great one.

How do you say that word?

Creek.

Me too.

But a lot of people in Wisconsin say Crick.

Yeah, I've heard that now.

Yeah.

Nobody's a Crick.

Yeah, if you're gonna say some guy's a creep, you don't say, well, he's a Crip.

Because that means something totally different, right?

It means he's a gangbanger.

Someone's a freak.

Or a Frick.

No, a freak is spelled differently.

Alright.

John says, are we already read that one?

Okay, I want to make sure I get so many texts here for the content.

Tony, the trucker says, six of one half dozen of another go figure.

How you work two of them in there?

Well done, Tony, from the 608.

Love it.

Steady Eddie says, Pete, in Wisconsin, some of us celebrate our excessive drinking like no other state.

Fictitious example.

Yeah, sure.

He says, I drank so much beer last night that I passed out and literally drowned in a pool of my own vomit.

Doctors somehow miraculously revived me.

It was a beautiful thing, best night of my life.

You betcha, a real raging kegger.

By the way, what bar are we drinking at tonight?

Hey there!

Steady Eddie.

Oh, he worked a several in one

text.

Very,

very well done.

Daniel.

Oh, Daniel just reminded me.

I've got social media texts.

I've got to get to here.

But Daniel says on the stream, he says, I've been perturbed by the onslaught of marketing dollars telling me weapons is the greatest thing ever made.

It was good.

But I'd rank bring her back well above it.

Interesting.

I have not seen that.

Daniel is a filmmaker himself and I am inclined to to agree with what he says there Sydney from Oregon says I need to go back to the last question of the night when you were in studio the sex tape I'd least like to see is Calvin and Jacob Those

are those are fellow producers and the civic

media, right?

That's horrible.

Why would you suggest that?

Sydney from Oregon?

That's terrible Do they have a sex tape that I'm unaware

I don't believe

so

Would it be weird if all the civic media producers got freaky sometimes just made sex tapes as a side hustle?

I've never attended one of those.

Yet Conrad, yet.

Annie from Watertown says, mass produced meat has no flavor.

I agree.

That's what I'm saying.

Yeah, a bratwurst at least has some taste on its own.

Steve from Florida, Conrad's dad says, the Wisconsin famous Friday night fish fry.

That is a work of ours that is beautiful.

Yeah, but where do you find, you can't find bluegill.

This, this, this still.

It still makes me a little sad.

Yeah,

there's one place

something there's one place in Milwaukee where I found a bluegill on the fish tonight fish list.

Yeah Are you gonna share three months later?

It closed down.

You're out of business.

I was so sad and then place that took it over did not have bluegill

bluegills are hard to come by maybe Yeah, they're pretty easy to find

I walk out on the street here.

I see 50 bluegills walking around.

Dave on the stream also says, I can't tell you how often I have to say that was a question.

That was a question then, Dave.

And Daniel also on social media, he left us a text that says, I use the phrase, you bet constantly.

And it only struck me as something regional when a non-Midwesterner asked what it meant.

You bet is just Midwestern.

I thought that was like a... You bet, yeah.

You betcha is Western, yeah.

Rex Sykes, our pal on social media says, everything is by time in LA.

In Wisconsin, people say, I'm not driving two miles to get to Walmart.

I used to drive between 30 minutes and an hour to go to breakfast daily in LA.

Distance in Wisconsin might be same as LA, but time takes to get there is vastly different.

Rex, buy some eggs, man.

Eat at home.

Don't drive an hour for breakfast.

I know Rex Lewis from Wisconsin right now.

He's been on the show.

Hey, great fun tonight, folks.

Thanks so much for making this easy, the comeback off the staycation.

Great to be back here.

Thank you for joining me tonight and Conrad.

Boy, thanks to Todd Michaels.

Always fun to catch up with Todd about really cool stuff.

And of course, Matt Miller, thank you for all your texts and calls on behalf of the lovable producer Conrad.

I'm Pete Schwabba saying good night,

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