Instability, Laughter, and Laziness (Hour 1)

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And now, a guy who never leaves the house without wearing a cup, Pete Schwabba.

Welcome to Nightlight, ladies and gentlemen.

Happy Monday, everybody.

It is finally the start of a new week where we get to all come together and talk about things that make us happy.

And of course, I'm talking about movies, TV, music, comedy, sports, walking, gelato, all kinds of stuff.

Hope you're having a great day.

Hope you're off to a good start this week.

Working the board, as always, is Conrad Krieger.

Conrad, how are you?

I'm doing great.

Really?

Yeah.

Well, that's exciting.

You know, we've talked about a lot of bumper stickers here on Nightlight,

ones

that we think are cringe.

OK.

And today, I found one that actually made me laugh out loud when I was walking.

What's that?

I can't fully say it.

Well, you were walking?

Yeah, I was walking.

And I see this.

car parked and it says it's a picture of a cat flipping like off you know yeah and says I just lost my last flying blank

a cat

so a

cat flipping

and that's what was around it nice I was just like okay I don't know where you find that but that's hilarious actually but is the cat just got a bad attitude or what

I don't know.

They must be a cat person, you know?

They must have saw them and been like, that's totally my cat right there.

A really rude cat person.

Are

you

a

cat

person?

I would say I'm more of a dog person.

Yeah, okay.

But I have never owned a dog.

Only cats.

So you've, oh, you've had, like, that means your parents are cat people.

Yeah, I mean, we've had cats all throughout my life until I moved out, you know?

Oh, wow, okay.

Well, that's kind of fun.

I saw some of the bumper stickers I see on cars.

I can't even like Well, kind of like what you just said, I don't want to repeat them because it's there and I can't believe people broadcast stuff on their car Like one guy had one.

This is one of the tamer ones.

I've seen certified beaver hunter

Nice

It's some and I was behind that guy in a drive-through.

I'm like, does that ever work like do women go?

Hey, hello.

Hi

I hear your certified beef.

I'm tired of dealing with these amateurs.

Um, all right.

Well, that was a, that's a great start to the show.

Uh, welcome folks.

And, uh, did you have a good weekend, Conrad?

I did.

Yeah.

I just, I hung out with my brother, uh, on Saturday.

We went golfing and played a couple of board games.

Do you beat your brother at golf or is he better than you?

Oh, no.

Okay.

He's miles better than

me, but he's also

golfed way longer than me.

Yeah, I am I'm in a good mood today because well, it's Monday and I kind of talked about this before on the show Sometimes I don't know what to do with myself in the weekends But I have gelato and I'm wondering how many how many gelato days we have left because it is now officially basically mid-August Just about

it's still warm.

You know, I'm thinking, you know Like last year kind of like mid-October starting to kind of cool down like that because last year September still fell hot

correct, but

And they were open, but then they closed.

I don't think these guys rise and grind are going to close or stop serving gelato through the winter.

So that's kind of

cool.

No, because their coffee is phenomenal.

So I

think that coffee part will stay open.

I agree.

Yeah.

We've got kind of a fun thing during our first interview with my first guest, Fallon Buckholtz.

They will be here at 635.

and you have something in common with our first guest.

I think you'll get a kick out of it.

We'll spring that during the interview, so you'll want to be here for that.

Oh,

no, I was going to take a powder.

I'll take a powder during that interview.

But Fallon is my first guest at 635, and they created a show called Instability out of Oshkosh.

So that's exciting.

I'm excited to welcome my first guest into the studio.

Fallon will join me.

And then at 720,

Wisconsin-based, more specifically, Northeast Wisconsin-based comedian Trevor Klumner will be here.

And I have not met Trevor before.

Are you familiar with the comedy stylings of Mr. Klumner?

No, but I, you know, I listened to that clip you sent.

It was pretty funny.

Do you have the clip?

I do, yeah.

Andy, let's get this a little taste here of my guest at 720.

This is Trevor Klumner.

I turned into a love of dungeon drapes, right?

And then I started warping, which some people know.

For those of you who don't know, LARPing stands for Live Action Roleplay.

It's the people who wear the elf ears, you know, they fight with the swords.

It's essentially D&D for nerds who can afford their insulin.

I quit doing it though, guys, because I ended up f***ing my costume from taking too much Adderall.

That's relatable, right?

I'm sorry, I forget we're in Appleton.

Let me rephrase that.

I f***ed my pants from taking too much

map.

Ouch.

That's a shot at the good people in Appleton.

But Trevor is from the area.

He can get away with that kind of stuff.

So it'll be exciting to meet both of our guests tonight here on Nightlight.

Both in the studio.

That's exciting too.

I just literally just came from the film Weapons.

And I went to see it over at the Marcus East.

Well, this time there was a couple.

Last time I went to see a naked gun a week ago.

There was one other person in the theater.

And this time there was a couple sitting just down the row and over one.

And that freaks me out like it's scary movies.

This movie was not that scary.

It was creepy.

The director, Zach Craggers, did a film called Barbarian that I watched on a whim because I thought the trailer looked really cool.

And every once in a while I do that.

And I loved Barbarian.

That was a couple of years ago.

This thing,

Weapons got much better higher reviews like a 90 or 95% or something around tomatoes and It's good, but not not as good as barbarian the barbarian was like a cleaner story This was creepy and it was about kids and the director is that cracker said kids freak him out.

He doesn't have kids, but he finds kids freaky so and good performances, but

Not something I would have rushed to see.

I was gonna see it on opening weekend, which this is didn't get to the theater over the weekend So I caught it today and it was fine, but it's not something I needed to rush to see you don't like those kind of movies anyway

No, no, I don't I don't go out to watch horror film

Yeah, well when they get a 95% I do okay, but I I'm not I would I would say don't rush out to see it.

It's fine Josh Brolin's good

Julia Garner is good from Ozark some good performances, but just

I don't know.

It's just okay Did you go watch freakier Friday?

No, it's too scary.

Oh I'm scared of the title buddy.

I'm scared of Lindsay Lohan.

Yeah scared of Lindsay Lohan I Would watch that though.

I'll wait till it comes out on you know streaming.

I'm not gonna go theaters to see it, but

My buddy Jimmy Pardo always said, this is one of his favorite, when something came out he didn't want to see, he goes, I don't watch that movie if it's playing in my glasses.

Which is a great way.

I don't know if I feel like that about Freaky Friday.

Freaky, Freaky or Friday, I should say.

It did get good reviews.

I got like 80%.

Do you

think the next one will be Freakiest Friday?

It's gotta be.

It's gonna be grammatically correct.

It absolutely has to be.

I did end up going to a, let's do this first.

We have a fun kind of a question today and it kind of describes my mood today.

So let's get to the nightlight question of the night.

Let's talk about the question.

Okay, question.

Question.

Question.

Pregunta.

Question.

Question.

Here, I have a question.

Questions.

This question.

Domanda.

Question.

Question.

Well, it's National Laziness Day, folks.

So the question of the night is, how do you practice laziness?

To be honest, I was too lazy to think about this question all day.

I don't have a good answer.

I would say I kind of, for me personally, I kind of just ease into the day.

I don't even really get dressed, I have coffee, I'll sit on the porch, do my New York Times puzzles or play a game of video poker.

I don't ever have a whole day dedicated to laziness, although there are days I won't work out or take a walk, I'll just kind of do what I have to do.

That's about as lazy as I get.

I'm not one of those people that just like stays in bed all day.

But it's National Laziness Day.

I want to know how you practice laziness.

When you are lazy, what do you do?

Inspire us.

Drag us down into your realm of laziness and tell us how you celebrate.

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Mr. Krieger.

How do you celebrate laziness?

I think it's it's pretty simple, you know I sit down to watch an episode and all of a sudden six You know six hours have passed and I've watched so many episodes and I'm just sitting there on the couch

That's interesting because like I Guess you're not really being active, but you're not doing it.

It's probably a character flaw of mine.

I don't consider watching TV to be lazy

because I'm learning, I'm educating myself on what's out there, I'm entertaining myself.

But yeah, I guess a lot of people probably do consider that lazy.

Yeah, it's just so easy to say at night when I'm trying to fall asleep and then I watch something I enjoy and then all of a sudden it's 3 a.m.

and I started at 12.

Listen, it's true laziness if you don't even like what you're watching.

If you're sitting there, if I'm...

If there's like a That 70s show marathon on, on like TV land or something and I watch four episodes, to me that's being lazy because I don't really care about the show that much.

But I don't know, let me know what you do to practice laziness.

And people do it different ways.

Some people do nothing.

Some people have no problem doing nothing.

I've never been one of those people, but I can lounge because I'm one of those people like I always need my brain to be stimulated somehow.

whether I'm playing video poker or doing a puzzle or writing a script or working on the show, even if I lay down on my bed for a few minutes, I'm watching Seinfeld or something.

Like it's probably not healthy, to be honest.

No, it's just, it's so easy to binge watch something that you really enjoy and then all of a sudden the hours just go by.

It's true.

So let us know folks, be part of the show.

There are no wrong answers.

There are only your answers.

And we love to read them on the radio and love when you part, when you part, when you precipitate, as John Candy would say.

So I had the privilege of going to my wife's class reunion this weekend.

That was kind of killed my Saturday night, but I'm kidding.

It was fun.

You know, it's one of those things where have you had a reunion yet?

No, I'm two more years.

Yeah, two

more years.

Actually, no, three more years.

Sorry.

You didn't have a fifth?

No.

Those people cracked me up.

I remember when I graduated high school and I'd see people out at the bars, they'd be like, we never should have voted for so-and-so to be class president, because apparently when you vote someone in as class president, or secretary, one of those two, they are responsible, by law, to organize the class reunions.

I don't even remember mine.

What a rip-off.

I don't remember my

class president.

I mean, talk about being saddled with a terrible gig.

Yeah, what if they live like, you know, in a different country?

I went to the 10th,

and I went to my 25th.

I don't know that I would, I don't really have much interest in going beyond that.

But it's not to say I wouldn't go, but my wife was on the fence too.

And when you're a date, when you're like, when you're someone else, it's like you just kind of find the other people and you hover.

But that is a perfect opportunity to mess with people, is at class reunions.

Because I was talking to one of my wife's classmates.

And her husband, who was, she was lovely.

The husband was a great guy.

We're talking.

And I said, yeah, we have two kids too.

My son Joe is 24.

My daughter Kate is 20.

And of course, Mary's pregnant with our third.

And the look on the woman's face was one of like shock, obviously.

Sadness.

And horror.

And I let it fester a while that I came clean.

All right, our question of the night, folks.

How do you practice laziness?

It's National Laziness Day.

Let us know.

We got a lot of fun.

We're talking TV tonight.

We're talking comedy and all things in between.

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You have no idea how excited that song gets me.

Do you know why?

Do you know why I'm going to say I like that song?

Because you want to go on a fast train?

Well, I love trains.

But tomorrow night at 6.35, Dan Schaefer from the Recombobulation area here at Civic Media, our political authority, Dan Schaefer, is joining the show to talk about The Wire, one of his favorite shows, one of my favorite shows.

And actually, as far as critics are concerned, one of the best shows of all time.

Deals with the inner workings of city hall and the Baltimore Police Department is such a good show The characters are great and Dan is a huge fan and we've been trying to line this up for a while.

So That will be Tons of fun and that is tomorrow night at 6 35.

So I don't know if you play I thought that's maybe why you're playing that

no,

but

I This reminds me of something is I did watch something over this this past weekend.

Oh

really risky business.

Did you I did.

Oh, dude.

I am so excited

Your thoughts I liked it But it wasn't but it wasn't the best movie I've seen

come on.

Have you seen a movie like that?

It was it was it was

pretty unique You'll think about it and you'll come around even more on it like I believe that you liked it, but I think like And you know whatever that was from my time when I was I was even younger than you when I saw that but

It kind of creeped me out that they're like in high school and then you know the

Oh,

yeah, they weren't even close probably to that age

Well, there's things you can't get away with now that you could get away with then Fair point.

Yeah, I guess it's it's 2025 what what year was that made?

1983 Listen, it's terrible, but when I was in school

There were teachers that dated kids at times, like in high school.

It's terrible.

Dude, and sometimes they had the parents' blessing.

How is that right on any level?

I mean, I thought it was weird then when you'd hear about it, but I just, those are people wired completely differently.

Yeah, I don't.

Totally wrong.

I'm never wrong.

Instantly be fired.

But I never even thought of that like with risky business.

I just assumed they were all 18.

The way like the movie goes, you think they'd be like 25 or something around there.

Yeah.

Even because they're just sitting there in the basement smoking cigarettes

and all that stuff.

I don't have a problem with kids.

Sneak beers.

They drink.

But you're right.

It's the it's the running an escort service out of your parents' house while they're out of town.

And that's kind of a red flag.

I thought it was hilarious, though, when Princeton.

Guy comes.

Bill.

Any stays.

Princeton can use a guy like Joel.

I had, I was in LA, where was I?

I was in a baby store for some reason on Ventura Boulevard.

And I think I was picking up something for my wife.

And who walks in?

Rebecca DeBornay.

And she's pregnant for a musky business.

And I, there are some people, like I never approached celebrities, but there are a few.

who have impacted my life or the movies they were in where I have to fight not to say something.

And she was very friendly.

She was smiling at everybody, asking questions.

She asked me out for coffee.

I said, no, you're pregnant.

I don't, that's not how I roll.

All right, we gotta get to our, we gotta get off the topic.

But you liked it.

It's a good movie.

It's Tom Cruise's great at it.

And his friends are hilarious.

I

honestly enjoyed Fast Times and Richmond High better.

Yeah.

but it still was a good movie.

Which also has a lot of inappropriate stuff by the modern day, but is also...

I just think that I was laughing the whole time in that movie.

In Fast Times?

Yes.

Hilarious.

Did I compare the two?

Is that why you're... No, they were like

closer, you know, close to the... True.

Because you told me to watch Fast Times and I did.

And I think... I agree with you.

I think Fast Times is much funnier than Risky Business.

Risky Business has some great, funny stuff.

Like Joe Panogliano.

Guido the killer pimp very funny But it's more of a Yeah, I don't know I would call it a comedy drama almost where it's fast times is more straight-up comedy

You know Guido didn't really scare me that much.

No

He's took his took his stuff

Yeah, that's true But you know your parents are out of town they come back you're gonna be grounded you're looking at a week in your room for that With your video

games

The whole, all the furniture are gone.

I think you'd get worse

than we are.

All right.

Our question of the night, folks, it is National Laziness Day.

How do you practice laziness?

Going to some of our social media responses.

Here's Conrad Krieger by sitting on my couch and watching how I met your mother until I realized that six hours have passed.

Again, you love the show.

I don't consider that laziness, but we all roll how we roll.

Daniel Wheeler.

says that lazy is a term of shame.

It downplays the value of self-care and brands those struggling with avoidance as bad people.

Stay strong, everyone.

Love Daniel.

Danny Wills with some words of wisdom.

Mike Desitel on social media says, I'm afraid I overdid it.

I rolled over in bed.

Now that is laziness.

When you have to gear up the rollover.

Mike, you're the text of the night so far.

Our Pal Amanda Nimmer.

Fellow civic media employee and social media goddess says sitting in an empty room and staring at a wall.

That is lazy

That's just I don't even know what you call that.

That's just maybe

impression

pointless

pointless.

Well, I Mean unless you're meditating somehow,

but she said

staring at the wall staring at the wall not closing your eyes.

I want to check in on her Yeah, let's see how she's doing.

I don't see Amanda much anymore these days.

I'm worried Patrick from the 608 says I handle it very well

Was that was that a laziness comment?

Tom from New Berlin says does procrastinate is procrastinating the same?

No I'll tell you why Tom because you can procrastinate and go out and play golf or watch a movie or you know take a run I Guess they can be the same but unnecessarily Patrick in the 608 says practice it very well

So he's very he's saying he's very lazy.

Okay fair enough Take a load off Patrick sit back enjoy the night.

All right, we are gonna come back and talk about the TV show instability with its creator Fallon Buchholz She'll be here.

They will be here in studio in just a few minutes folks after the news and then we got comedy with Trevor Klumpner coming up at 720 it's peach wabba and nightlight on the civic media radio

network

I wanna cry, cry, cry alone When you're feeling blue I'm waiting just for you

This is Nightlight.

I am Pete Schwabba and you've got the Civic Media Radio Network.

Great to have you with us on this Monday night.

Ladies and gentlemen, our question of the night in honor of National Laziness Day is, how do you practice laziness?

That is tonight's question.

We've gotten several responses that we will get to shortly.

So keep those responses coming in.

You can also text us on the Civic Media app.

We're on statewide.

So just click next to the station you're listening to and fire away.

And if you're watching on the stream, you can leave us a stream comment.

Very easy to be part of the show and hope you do.

So right now I'm excited to welcome my first guest of the night.

They are the creator of the show Instability.

and made the drive all the way from Oshkosh.

They're a UW Oshkosh graduate, joining me now in the studio, Fallon Buchholz.

Hi, Fallon.

Hi.

And it's Buchholz, I got it right?

Yes, it's Buchholz.

Yes, I said Buchholz the first time.

It's a common mistake.

That sounds a little more, yeah.

Buchholz sounds very crude almost.

Buchholz sounds a little more sophisticated, don't you think?

Yeah.

Okay.

Very good.

Well, welcome.

Welcome to the show.

How are you doing tonight?

Are you excited to be here?

Yeah, I'm super excited.

I've been looking forward to it all day.

Really?

Yes.

Oh, wow.

Well, that pressure is not kind of bad.

So you got to stay in your toes, buddy, just in case.

No, don't take a powder.

All right.

I should ask you this.

And before we get started, this will be like a little ice break because we've never met before.

Correct.

But do you feel comfortable already?

Yeah, I do.

Am I making you feel comfortable?

Yeah.

Okay.

In that case, how do you practice laziness?

You're a writer.

I'm a writer and trust me, I know, and procrastination is a thing with writers.

And you could be lazy or you could just blow it off completely.

But what do you do to be lazy?

I'm pretty bad at being lazy.

Really?

Well, not necessarily super bad.

I like to watch something I've already watched on TV while scrolling TikTok, which I think a lot of people my age love doing that.

But my mind is usually still thinking about what I need to be doing.

So you got three things going on.

You're thinking about what you're supposed to be doing.

And it's not just people your age.

I'm sorry to say, honest to God, I play video poker and I'll watch TV and I always have to rewind the TV or I'll lose a hand at poker.

It's like I'm a mess.

And oftentimes I have stuff I should be doing too.

So I don't think it's probably more prevalent in your generation, but.

people older than you are learning bad habits too at a rabbit pace.

So are you pretty good about writing?

Do you write every day?

Do you have a practice or a tendency when it comes to writing?

I've tried to schedule it.

It's not for me, scheduling it.

I

don't write every day close to.

I have multiple projects at once and that's how I'm able to write a lot, but not finish anything for a long time.

Well, that, you know,

You say that it's a bad thing, or maybe you didn't mean it like that, but I think a lot of writers do that.

They get sick of something, or some of us have attention deficit disorder, and some of us have attention deficit disorder.

See what I did there.

Let's start with Instability.

Tell us about this really cool show.

It's a web series, right?

Yes.

All right, and you're filming it, you're in production now.

Yes.

It'll be out in a couple months, but tell us about this cool... I was reading about it, and it's very creative, but tell us about Instability.

So it is a...

web series, you said that.

It's an unreliable narrator and I got the idea from how I met your mother and I wrote it even more unreliable than Ted Mosby.

I have the three main characters go into a diner.

Here's after they've graduated college and there's a blocked author already there.

trying to figure out an idea for his book and he can't think of anything.

You say a block author like he has writer's block?

Yeah.

Gotcha,

okay.

And he can't think of anything so these women walk in and they start reminiscing about their college days and he hears everything they're saying across the diner and that's what his book is about.

So then when he starts typing, we go into the scenes from them in college and it's his book that we're watching.

That's really interesting.

Is that hard?

It's quite a concept, but there's a lot going on there.

Is it is it give you issues when you shoot with like continuity?

Or is it nonlinear you bounce back and forth between his book and the actual characters?

It's linear ish Okay, but we have actually already shot all of season one at the diner with him

with the

blocked author actor So all of his scenes for each episode for season one are done

So the continuity, and we had pre-production meetings where we went through continuity and all sorts of things.

So we have, we have had a lot of meetings to figure this out.

Nice.

Where did you get the idea for this?

So like I said, How I Met Your Mother was one of them.

Okay.

I loved How I Met Your Mother and I love the unreliable narrator trope.

And I also based the characters on myself and two friends that I had when I was...

18 19 years old we met working together not

as

roommates, but Those kids that's where I started and then it bloomed into something new

very nice So did you see now?

Do you see what I was talking about before Conrad there's gonna be a little surprise for you Conrad's favorite shows how I met your mother

Yeah, it's a good show

and I want to tell you something else Where was that character?

There's a character the last name creak Oh, Colton.

Oh, that's

That's actually an actor.

He's not a character.

No, he's an actor in your show.

Conrad, his name is Colton Krieger, KK.

Oh,

well.

Krieger, the same way you do.

Conrad spells his name with a K.

Ah, yeah.

It's

been a source of contention between us.

All right, so that's cool.

So we're bonding here.

We got the How I Met Your Mother thing.

I think that's kind of cool.

That's a show I have to check out.

I haven't really seen.

Really?

I've just seen this sporadically, but so.

Let's just talk about from a shooting standpoint, you said you're keeping it all together, but like continuity, you said it's linear-ish.

You shoot like you shoot if all the diner scenes get done for efficiency's sake.

But what is that going to be like when you go into the editing suite and you're trying to put it all together from the way you have the story?

Like it sounds like kind of a mindbender a little bit.

So I'm actually not the editor.

So my poor editor, Jasper, has to go through this.

He has the scripts, so that's what helps him a lot.

We talk about it.

We actually did do a lot of the editing together, more of me as moral support than anything else.

Sure.

And so the scripts are helpful.

And we do have a slate each time we shoot a scene.

So the

scene one.

I saw

it, yeah.

One A, take one, and then we go through, decide which takes we like the best, and get that all sorted out.

So you were an English major.

You sat down to write this.

Did you know it was going to be an episodic work right away or did it start off as a feature film?

What were you thinking when you set out to do this?

I honestly, people ask me this a lot and I never really know what to say because I don't know why I decided.

to write a TV show.

I've known I wanted to be a writer since I was a kid.

And every time I would pick up a pencil or a pen when I was a kid, however I would write would be different every time.

Like I wrote plays as a kid.

I wrote short stories.

I started writing books.

And this time I just picked it up and started writing a TV show.

You say you wrote books.

We talked a little bit before you came out.

We're both English majors.

I'm a pretty bad one because I don't read much anymore and I'm ashamed of that.

Don't you think it's like as someone who's written primarily feature length screenplays 100 pages to 120 pages you have beats you have to hit I'm sure it's the same way for you with your web series Do you find the idea of writing a book overwhelming because you it could be a thousand pages It could be 300 pages.

It just seems like where do you start and where do you go?

It's somewhat overwhelming especially since the publishing companies are really

Like they're hard right now.

I did write a book last year.

I did start queering it and all I've gotten is denial.

So it's really hard.

And then I don't feel as passionately about my books as I do instability.

So I think that's very prevalent to publishers

as well.

So.

Interesting.

It's hard because I have a hard time getting into it right now.

My guess is Fallen Buchholz.

They're a writer from Oshkosh.

Do you live in Oshkosh now?

I live in Appleton

now.

Appleton, okay.

So, and their TV show is called Instability.

So it's not out yet.

We'll talk about when it's coming out soon.

Where's the title?

Where does that come from?

And does it pertain to the actual story?

You're kind of jumping around with eras in the show.

Where's the title come from?

The title comes from each of the characters not being stable yet.

They're

college kids.

So they're learning and unlearning and becoming who they are.

It does come from another thing, but I do feel I have to keep that private.

Okay.

Will we see it when the show comes out?

No.

Okay.

You're only willing to share so much.

How long are the episodes?

I have to be honest, I don't know much about web series.

So I did write this as a TV show.

Okay.

So, but we're going to make it into a web series.

So there are 22 to 30 minutes, like normal

30 minutes

at com.

Nice.

And are there funny moments?

How would you categorize it?

Okay.

I would say it's a dramedy.

Dramedy.

All right.

All right, very cool.

And how many episodes can we look forward to when they drop?

We're only dropping the pilot right now, unfortunately.

We are filming the second episode.

We have a couple more shoot days.

And then right now, I am trying to crowdfund to finish filming season one.

OK.

So just the pilot for now.

But then after that, I hope to drop the next 11 episodes at least weekly.

I don't necessarily want to drop them all at once.

I want people to come back every weekend.

I think people think, um, I just said, I don't know a lot about web series, but I know they're just as complicated to shoot as anything else you would shoot.

What, what would you tell people who have never watched a web series before and they think, Oh, this is just something you shoot and post like a two minute YouTube video.

Tell them a little bit about the process and what you're going through in this labor of love.

Yeah, I mean I make YouTube and TikToks and you can do a lot of that by yourself So this requires a team it requires a good camera You have to like schedule people which is very hard to get all people on the same schedule as well as paying for a camera not easy Yeah, it is a lot like a TV.

I watch a couple web series on YouTube and they are really good and The reason that their web series is normally that it's really hard to get picked up

by a production company that would put you on TV.

And is that what you're hoping for?

Obviously, you'd love to get a nice big check and for them to say, let's put this on TV.

Yes, I

would love that.

I know that Broad City by Alana Glazer and Abby Jacobson, that started as

a web

series.

And then it became an amazing Comedy Central comedy show.

Would you give up creative control for the big bucks?

No, I couldn't.

Come

on, really?

Fallon, I don't believe you.

Seriously?

I don't know if I could do it.

Maybe it was a different project.

All right, that's fair.

But it's a good calling car, right?

Like you have some people say, well, what have you done?

What can you do?

So what hats are you wearing during this, during production of Instability?

Are you, you're the writer, but are you directing it?

Are you acting in it?

What else are you doing?

I'm a director.

I direct, I've directed every part of it.

And then I've had a couple of co-directors when needed, because I've never directed before this.

And then this year,

I did direct a couple of times by myself because we needed a smaller crew or we didn't have enough people come.

And I also am the executive producer, which means I do everything to scheduling, to making sure we have meals to eat on set.

You do all the stuff that's not the least bit fun, so you can do the fun stuff, right?

Yes.

That's a great way to... What is your favorite part of the... All right, let's do this.

You talked about extras before.

Are you shooting in Appleton or Oshkosh?

Both.

We've shot in

Appleton, Oshkosh, Manasha and Nina.

I know there's a lot of people that listen to this show who are independent filmmakers too.

And is it hard when you shoot something like this, whether it's Oshkosh or Appleton or a small town, do you find people are typically supportive?

Like you said, you're shooting in a diner.

Do they make you pay or they say, we'd love for you to shoot here, just get our sign in the shot or what?

We shoot at MIMS in Monashia and I love to shout them out because they have

a little plug sure

amazing malts

that's

malts have ever had and They do not have us pay.

We come in on a day.

They're not open nice and they let us shoot there They're super nice and that is how it's been for every location that we have shot at super nice super accommodating owners.

All right

My guest is Fallon Buchholz, and when we come back, they're going to tell us when you can see the first episode of this really cool sounding show called Instability.

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Our question of the night is, how do you practice laziness?

It is a national laziness day, and this is something I found on what I like to call the internet.

Englishman Jeremiah Carlton is widely considered the laziest man in the world.

He was heir to a large fortune at 19, promptly went to bed and stayed there for the next 70 years, just because he wanted to.

More than 40 servants fed and bathed him until he died in bed at the age of 89.

And then the question was,

Just what did Jeremiah do in bed?

I don't think we really want to know that.

I don't think we really.

I mean, that sounds like the epitome of laziness.

That is lazy, even more so because I think what Amanda said, that just kind of freaked me out that she wants to stare at a wall.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't

think I could do it.

I couldn't sit there that

long.

Could you let several people give you a bath?

Would you find enjoyment in that somehow?

Probably not.

Come on.

I mean, if the highlight of

your day, if I had enough money,

if I was this

guy, I would.

I guess why

not?

Welcome back, folks.

Fallon Buchholz is my guest.

They're in the studio with me right now talking about Instability, a show that Fallon created.

And when does it come out?

Well, you'll have a premiere party in Oshkosh on November 16th at the Time Cinema.

So, on Old Fashion,

it's in our

place, too, and then it will release on YouTube the following week on November 23rd.

How excited are you going to be when people finally get to see...

I'm so

excited.

Yeah, I bet you are.

The Time Theater is a great place, too.

We've talked about the Time Theater on this show before as well.

And then you have...

You have more episodes coming out after that on November 23rd or they all gonna be it's

just the pilot on the 23rd That's being released because we're still working on filming the rest.

Yeah, cool.

Very cool.

All right So you also in the show as I understand it correct me if I'm wrong deal with issues that face the LGBTQ plus community Was there someone in your writer was there someone along those lines that you looked up to as a writer

that kind of set the stage for you to go, I can do that too.

Or any writer for that matter.

But I'm wondering where the LGBTQ plus, where those issues work their way into the show.

Well, I'm, I'm bi, non-binary.

So mostly me, I inspire myself.

Okay.

You're your own inspiration.

That's really admirable.

But other writers have inspired me.

I actually was somewhat inspired by Euphoria, which

had some

queer characters, not like super.

inspired because it is way more dramatic than what I'm writing, but the narration and then some of the other stuff

inspired

me there, too.

So when you were in college, you said you were an English major.

What writers did you look up to or who did you want to emulate?

I love Herman Melville.

Oh, nice.

I

love him.

Yes.

And Virginia

Woolf.

Oh, wow.

The classics.

All right.

I love classics.

That's fantastic.

Have you test marketed the show at all?

Have you showed it to people?

Do you get feedback during the process or are you the kind that doesn't want that?

I haven't been able to show anybody.

We're still working on finishing the pilot, editing it.

And I do get feedback.

I got feedback in the scripts with a group.

I had a pre-production team that gave me good feedback.

And then while we're shooting, sometimes people, I let people tell me opinions or ideas, actors, crew, anybody.

Anybody who has a good idea.

Yeah,

I

will listen to it and sometimes I take that advice and sometimes I say I don't think so

Yeah, well, it's good to be open-minded like that.

You have to be you said you had a funny story during filming I

hope Molly doesn't mind my friend Molly and co-director and some other She does some other things too.

She's also an actor in it eventually

We were outside filming last year for one of our scenes, and we had to be quiet once we were filming.

Everybody has to be super, super quiet.

We're all very calm, just watching it.

Immediately after we stopped rolling, she goes, I think I just got stung by a bee.

Like five minutes

ago.

Matter of fact.

Like, and she's like, it hurts so bad.

She told me later, it hurt so bad.

I was like, I can't, I was like, I can't believe you were quiet.

She's like, yeah, it was the first time I've been stung by a bee too.

And I was like, oh my God.

I was like, you couldn't have interrupted that.

Like we could have just done another take.

Right.

Y'all cut yourself.

Come on.

Put some ointment on it.

Let's keep moving along here.

I will say I had a funny situation happen to me.

My son was making a short film and I was, I had to cough and I was like doing everything in my power not to cough.

because I didn't want him to have to yell cut and stop everything.

And my eyes started watering.

And after the scene was like, dad, what's going on with you in that scene?

Like I'm starting crying and I'm not even involved in the scene.

I'm like basically a background character, but all kinds of stuff pop up when you're filming stuff and you don't have any idea sometimes what's going to make you stop.

What is your favorite hat to wear?

You're directing, you wrote it.

What's your favorite part of the whole process?

Writing.

Writing.

Writing is my

favorite part.

It's the most fun part to me.

And it's the most important part in my opinion.

I mean, without a good script, you really don't have anything.

All right.

Well, I wish you luck with this show found.

This is exciting.

And I hope you'll keep us posted.

We would love to check it out once we can see it on YouTube or wherever, for that matter.

Hopefully a big network.

Who

knows?

But what do you binge watching?

So I am binge watching multiple things my partner and I mostly him, but I'll watch it with him We he's been rewatching community.

Okay,

so we've been watching that I binge watch Bob's burgers over and over again, and then I started a new show

called insecure, but I'm kind of failing at binging right now.

It's been a few days since I watched

you.