
Transcript
Wisconsin’s Creative Pulse (Hour 2)
Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Wed Aug 6, 2025
Welcome back to Nightlight, folks.
It's a Wednesday edition, one of our favorite editions of the week.
Having some fun here tonight.
We got a great show.
Deandra Marie will be here at 720 in the studio performing.
She is a local singer-songwriter who has a gig coming up in just a few days.
We'll tell you all about that.
My guest in the first hour was Craig Anthony Kinnit.
We will jump back in with Craig in just a minute here.
We're talking, well, we talked about Comic-Con and Independent Film.
We're going to talk about a new film he has that's going to play in the Milwaukee Shorts Festival, which is coming up.
We'll jump into that in just a minute too.
Our question of the night.
Conrad, do you remember the question of the night?
It's 855-752-4842 or you can text us on the app or if you're watching on YouTube, Twitter, X, whatever you call it now and Facebook, you can drop us a stream comment as well.
We've gotten a few of those and we'll catch up on texts very soon.
We also talked about...
What else did we talk about Conrad?
throw a steak in there then right away?
So we will get to all of this in just a moment, folks.
But let us know what your response to the question is.
It's a fun question.
And I said,
I said DoorDash and food delivery.
I waste more than I would like to with that.
Conrad said protein bars.
Our guest Craig, what did you say?
I said internet, bad internet
Oh my God, I think it's like 150 bucks.
What the heck?
I
know, it's ridiculous.
much.
And it's because we want to keep a landline too, otherwise we wouldn't have it.
I
protects your phone screen so that they don't crack, and then they
probably crack anyways.
He's
least you
Steven Flora, he's in the 920, at least his cell phone is.
He says, even though I only buy a couple of Powerball tickets,
a week, four bucks, I feel like I'm wasting my money.
But as the saying goes, you can't win unless you buy a ticket.
That seems to be the theme here on the text line right now.
He says, maybe someday.
I'm with you, Steve.
I buy a ticket when I think of it, but I don't think I've ever hit more than one number.
Oh, I
hear
When they get
billions of dollars, Pete, it's like you have to buy one.
just for that second
thought in your head.
It's like, oh my God, what would happen if I, and then you start thinking about how your life would change.
And you know what?
You really, really think about how your life would change.
That's a movie right there waiting to happen, Pete.
I would tell all my friends to take a hike and I would get some new ones and I would move somewhere exotic.
You'd have to, almost.
People would be coming out of the woodwork to try to- People wouldn't understand me anymore.
I've got new friends and I've got money.
I'm sorry, this is the way life goes.
It is interesting though, because we, one night, we were cleaning up the, I think this was during COVID.
We were cleaning the kitchen and I think my son, I thought he accidentally threw a lottery ticket away and there was no winner and we hadn't checked it yet.
And I said, you are going through the garbage because I guarantee you, if we don't find that ticket, it's gonna be a
winner.
It's the winner.
Let us know what you think though, folks.
What do you waste money on?
That's the question of the night.
The night like question of the night.
Your friends with Scott Harp, who's a Marinette native and made a film called Single Action Cult years ago that I saw at the Marinette Theater in Marinette.
Scott is a great guy.
How did you guys
meet?
Actually, I met Scott almost accidentally because we were both.
into film and Scott was just starting up trying to make something with film here in Green Bay.
And that was like, I was a part of that very first meeting and I brought a couple people to it and it was probably only about seven or eight people that were filmmakers and we all got together in Scott Harp's basement and we ended up calling it the Independent Filmmakers Guild, the IFG.
We had a long run.
We had a very healthy run of about five or six years.
We would make movies.
We'd share them every month We would and Scott and his buddy Scott McPherson who those guys were inseparable They would always makes things together Brilliant and funny guys so we'd all make these movies then we'd have ton of stuff We could enter in film festivals and it was just a really good healthy way of of creating and we'd each inspire each other by kind of having this little bit of a
competitive edge to it.
Yeah.
It's like, all right, this next month, we're going to make a horror movie.
You got to keep it under five minutes.
Oh, that's cool.
And we're going to share them then that night.
That was a blast.
That was super fun.
think it actually helps you to be more creative.
Yeah.
Honestly, because it's like if there's nothing there, you're just so wide open, especially when you're working with kids or anybody that doesn't
to have a lot of experience with that.
Giving them those guidelines helps them a little bit to stay within the tracks and make something cool.
at here.
I got you a gift and you can share these with Pete if you want.
Okay.
My buddy works at Fox Studios, and he worked in the Nakatomi Plaza building,
one from the Die Hard.
You can't miss that.
You can't.
and so he was working in there, and I had to shoot some footage of him, and then we went up in there that night and could see...
You know LA all the way around it was
And they had a whole bunch of DVDs and stuff that they were given away and I had most of them But I didn't have these and I thought let's bring these back for Conrad.
Yeah, how I met your mother.
I
you talk about that
jump away from Comic-Con 2, I wanted to let you know that there was a person that was there that's never been to Comic-Con before, George Lucas.
Star Wars fame.
He's never been to Comic-Con before.
Yeah.
And well, I take that back.
He hasn't been there in many, many, many, many years.
And he was there not to talk about Star Wars.
He was there to talk about the George Lucas Museum.
of narrative art.
Where's that?
It's gonna be opening somewhere in California, but it's storyboarding, it's props, it's all the things that go into making film, and it's gonna be in this museum.
Not just Star Wars stuff, but anything from different movies that he's...
been
So that's a pretty cool announcement, I
about?
Okay, well it was, that was the working title.
It's Wisconsin Goodbye, and if you've ever tried to leave a party
Um, everybody's just so polite and it's like, oh, hey, let me get you another beer.
No, no, no, I got to get going.
I got to get going.
Did you try the Kringle yet?
Have you tried
Yeah.
Oh, did I?
Yeah.
Did you talk about, you know, so all these things ridiculous
these reasons for keeping people still there at the party.
And that's what this ultimately is.
The title of the film is called Daniel needs to leave and it stars Daniel Wheeler.
who's
And he is brilliant in it because all he wants to do is get out of here politely from A to B and it goes from your typical polite response.
Into a little bit of horror and then back out of it So it's a quick short film and I shot it all on my cell phone here nice and that was part of the experiment as well I wanted to see what we could do shooting it on a cell phone utilizing that as the audio that was tricky because I
really fix some of that but the end results were pretty cool and It did it told the story that I wanted and it's the camera floats through the whole party
So
through there and it was it was pretty awesome.
That's fantastic.
it was?
But you know what?
Think about it.
It's a it's a almost 10 minute film and I got it shot in four hours.
Oh, wow.
That is insanity.
You can't ever especially choreographing almost 20 people.
You know trying to get everybody in the right spot and we did about two or three takes on each on each run through and It I don't know it's it's it's organic and it worked out really well is their nudity No, although Dan Davies talks about it
thing.
No, I know but he
Okay
I was
shower in the scene, but it's
didn't call you but I sent you a text.
It's like come on down be in this movie and you're like, oh, well, you're gonna have to pay for my air flight
Well, good luck with that.
I hope
leg.
kid involved too.
Yeah, you know sometime especially if he's just getting started and
Getting things done.
Yeah.
No, he's got some short
He's consumed by it.
So he writes every day and he's like taking acting classes and it's like a father's nightmare, but Hey, I want it before you get out of here.
I want to get your take on Fantastic Four because I know Conrad Conrad was lukewarm on it, right?
And no, I enjoyed it.
Oh, you did.
Yeah
I must be thinking of the Conrad's build with a C.
I enjoyed it.
I really did.
I was hoping for more, honestly, because Marvel's trying so hard to get themselves out of a hole a little bit.
They need to.
They need to make these movies really strong.
Conrad, every single time the thing came on the screen with a beard, I said audibly, stupid, stupid.
I was
so
frustrated with that.
There was one time in the thing's history where he had a beard, and it was a fake beard.
And then there was another time, there were two other times that he's had a beard and one is after a thousand years of living and once a year he was able to turn back into human.
So after a thousand years of him turning into human one day, he had a beard.
Otherwise it didn't happen.
So some goon from Hollywood who thought it would be funny to, or cool, God, he'd look so hip and cool.
Let's give him, let's give him a beard.
Yeah, but every time Galactus was on the screen or Galacticus as my friends like to say It was jaw-dropping awesome.
Yeah his that character was
Impressive.
got some other surprises coming your way,
You're
Welcome back.
He's a comic con.
He's making a movie.
He's doing this In just a few minutes folks my second guest of the night will be here in the studio Deandra Marie if you're watching on the stream You can see Deandra and her boyfriend Craig setting stuff up.
Hopefully Craig is okay being on camera.
I don't know if that's Okay, Craig now he sees like cowering.
Sorry All right, so our question of the night folks is what do you waste money on?
And we've gotten some really good responses.
Conrad said protein bars.
I said food delivery, like DoorDash, Uber Eats, that kind of thing.
But let's get to some texts.
Daniel Wheeler says iced coffees.
that's like that's like their hostess wannabes He says I wish someone could come up with a little Debbie flavored beer.
They could call it little deb brow Sorry, my life sucks Well, do you have to bring us down with you Dan, I'm kidding I have kidding.
Yeah, the little you had me the beer I can see but a little Debbie I don't know about that Sheila Rosenberg says bags of baby carrots.
That's what she wastes money on
She says every week I tell myself I'm gonna eat them.
Every week I toss a bag of moldy slimy carrots into the trash.
It's a vicious cycle.
At least you're throwing out healthy food, Sheila.
And not wasting.
You're not throwing out unhealthy food.
Barry McClure on social media says everything.
LOL, it's crazy how much it costs to live nowadays.
That's true.
And it's funny because there's some comic that does a joke about every time you leave your house, it's a hundred bucks.
I'm gonna fill the
Went to the coffee shop, did this, $100.
Monica Hale says, chocolate, lots of chocolate.
She says, cookie dough protein bars do not taste like cookie dough, just like raspberry cheesecake yogurt does not taste like cheesecake.
Well said, Monica.
This is one I totally agree with and I'm upset.
Ezekiel beat me to it.
He says, health insurance, way too expensive.
drives me crazy when people say, well, we have the best health.
You know, you go to a foreign country and you sit in a waiting room for four hours.
I do that here and I have insurance.
Health insurance is ridiculous.
Great one.
That's the text of the night, Ezekiel.
All right, I think we got all the social media texts.
Let's turn our attention to the text line.
Ladies and gentlemen, you can text us at 855-752-4842.
I want to point out too that Julie
is listening on the stream or watching on the stream.
She's waiting for Deandra Murray to come on the show and she'll be here in just a few moments, Julie.
And Julie said, just waiting for the singer, which could be construed as rude, but she did not mean it like that.
She said, that's my mom.
So she said, waiting for the singer came from my mom and dad, nothing against Craig, but she is eagerly awaiting Deandra Murray as we all are.
She will be here in just a few minutes and she has fans listening as she often does.
Paula Krieger, Conrad's mom says, all the different streaming services, just to watch a few series that we enjoy.
I wish it would all be on one service.
Oh, thank you.
Thank you, Paula.
Nick from the 608 says, I go to my favorite record stores and occasionally online to buy vinyl records and CDs like there's no tomorrow.
Got so much music, I will have to open up my own shop.
Well, there you go.
It's like, that's how eBay started, right?
I think so.
I think so.
A woman told her husband to clean out the garage and he became rich.
So this is that three-pack shield.
How much are those con red, those screen?
Thank you for sharing that, though.
You didn't have to support your argument.
I believed that he was spending too much.
Mark, from the sack.
That's Prairie to Sack.
For those of you scoring at home in the 608, he says, wasn't there a song, Julie Julie, Do You Love Me?
Is there, does that sound familiar?
No.
Well, let's, we'll ask Deandra when she gets here.
She's the music person.
And more screen protector stuff from Sydney.
Good stuff.
Are we repeating here?
Here we go.
Annie from Watertown.
She, her cell phone anyway is in the 920.
She says avocados.
They're expensive, but that's like a super food.
That's like the one food you could live off of.
So I hear you, Annie.
but I love avocados.
Carrie from Tosa, she's in the 414, says kombucha, I don't know if I'm saying
Kombucha.
So the CH is not silent.
It is not.
Kombucha tea.
I don't drink it, so I don't know how expensive it is, Carrie, but I take your word for it.
Thank you.
Robert from La Crosse says, I used to indulge in Cinnabon, but the business supported Project 2025.
Oh, Project 2025.
Ended that waste of money.
Well, sometimes they make it easy for you, right, Robert?
Thank you for the text.
Conn, I feel like I missed, did we get John from Madison?
We didn't read his text yet.
Let's
Oh well.
Is that who he calls this old lady?
Yeah.
I cannot condone that kind of talk.
But she seems fine with it, right?
So who am I?
John from Madison, we love John.
He's in the 608.
He says, Peter, my old lady attached.
He sent us a picture of his wife.
Yup.
What are we supposed to do with that?
He's just being nice.
Your wife is a beautiful woman, John.
He says, she's what makes me happy all the time.
My beautiful bride is 11 years younger than me, hence my teasing.
I suppose I am a cradle robber at best, but we all know the marriage-y types of things are a little lax in Tennessee.
Our home, sweet home, Knoxville.
I thought they were Madison people.
Maybe they're transplants from Knoxville.
Just kidding, we are, oh God.
He says, just kidding, we are flatlanders.
We are now proud of Wisconsinites for 25 years.
Love your show so very much.
It makes my day.
John, you make my day, buddy.
Keep those texts coming.
And he already is.
He says, so I waste all my money on her and beer.
Well, it's nice to meet your old lady, John.
If you can call her that, I think we can call her that.
Keep those texts coming, folks.
Hey, this is exciting.
Deandra Murray is here in the studio, folks, and she's going to perform her new song.
And we're going to tell you about her gig that you can check her out at in just a couple of days here in Northeast Wisconsin.
It's Pete Schwabba and Night Light on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Okay, on the stream, Julie did clarify there is a song called, yes, or I'm sorry, called Julie, Julie, Julie, Do You Love Me?
So we've, pardon me, we've answered that question.
Thank you, Julie, for sharing that.
And you should know songs that are written for you.
Lots of good songs with girls' names in it.
Thank you, Julie, and thank you for listening.
And you're about to be in luck because your pal, the very talented Deandra Marie is here.
with us now in studio.
How are you?
Good.
How are you?
Local singer-songwriter Deandra Marie, she's been on the show before.
If you've listened to, if you're a regular listener, you've probably heard her.
She does great work and she is based out of Northeast Wisconsin.
And we wanted to have you back on when you got closer to a gig you have coming up.
So tell people where they can see you in a couple of days.
Yeah.
So you can find me at the Cup of Joy this Saturday night at 730 and that's on Main Street 525.
the road.
You've been there before, right?
This will be my second time.
Yeah, it's a great venue.
Family friendly.
It's a great setup.
A lot of different varieties of music and bands that come in there.
That's great.
I'm excited to be back.
It's about 45 minutes.
Oh, nice.
So I'm doing a shared night with another local group called Untapped Potential, and they're based out of the Appleton area also.
work?
We just kind of split time.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I would say the website's pretty current.
Things kind of slowed down for a bit, you know, because I work full time and so this is kind of like a part time thing for me, but I obviously enjoy it.
But yeah, just spend busy.
I did a couple of events this summer since I've seen you like a couple of national anthems actually singled at the Timberheadler Stadium.
Really nice.
Really, really well.
It was fun.
Is it
I think it can be.
I think like anything, it's kind of a mindset.
Personally, I think sharing my own music is a little scarier because it's more vulnerable and personal.
So a lot of times in my mind, I'm like, people aren't here to see me.
They're here to see like the football game or the baseball
game, right?
So I don't know.
Maybe I have a different mindset.
I haven't messed it up yet.
So let's knock on wood.
national anthem.
that way
Just think about it.
Third time's a charm.
I mean, I'm making a statement here tonight.
I'm in sales.
I do a truck leasing in Appleton.
Yeah.
Not yet.
No.
trucks?
Big semi-trucks.
The semi-trucks.
Like day calves and straight trucks and reefer trucks.
Yeah.
Well, very
Fire away, Pete.
Yes.
You've
I'm not sure if I played that one or not.
that?
maybe we touched on this one of the shows.
I can't remember, but it sounds familiar.
But anyways, Imperfect Me is inspired by the scripture that says we don't have to be good enough to come to Christ.
His sacrifice on the cross makes us good enough.
inspired the song of coming to him imperfect.
So we can't earn anything.
So that's kind of what the song is about.
Not having to be good enough to earn salvation or grace.
It's a free gift that's given.
So that inspired that
I'm not sure.
I don't have the answer to that one.
Christian, Christian singer-songwriter.
Okay.
Do you
Yeah, I mean, I definitely think I hold myself to a certain standard.
And but I wouldn't say like, I mean, I feel like my music, a lot of it is written about real life things as we kind of touched on so it can kind of
You know, it's relatable in
sense, but there it could maybe go both ways.
Yeah, but I try to Have I consider it maybe like a heartbreak and hope kind of feel like a positive hope message
You've when you've performed on the show in the past some of your songs are very personal and it's it's interesting that you say You're more intimidated seeing those do you ever are you I mean when you perform are you ever like I don't want to go there tonight.
I don't feel like opening up to people
But you have to, do you, how does that work?
Yeah, I mean, that's such a great question.
And it's, I do feel like that Pete, like it's scary.
Like it's very vulnerable because you're exposing like, you're opening yourself up to rejection, right?
You're exposing like, okay, these are parts of my heart, they're parts of my story.
And to me, that's scarier than singing the national anthem because it's just the national anthem, even though it's not just the national anthem, but it is.
Oh, no.
And they don't get enough, they don't get
You're holding out on me again.
I haven't
seen any of
your work yet.
I'm so disappointed.
very temperamental.
He's understood because it's vulnerable, right?
All right, Deandra Marie is my guest.
She is a Northeast Wisconsin-based, Appleton-based, more accurately, singer-songwriter, and she is performing at Cup of Joy on August 9th at 730, right down the road here on Main Street, if you live in Green Bay.
So what are you gonna play for us tonight?
Have you decided that you're kind of back and forth?
I don't know.
What do you, should I play in Perfect Me?
It's kind of skinny on the piano.
It's not my full band, you know?
wants that.
Well, maybe if I should just turn it over to you and you can start
I'm gonna leave
If that were the case, then I'd have to invite you to come to my show on Saturday to sing.
That's
yeah, whatever you want.
All right, can this is a little bit troublesome for me.
Okay.
I'm going to play a song I wrote called Scary Close.
you
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
With a band.
Yeah, I'll have some people there with me.
I don't know what my most popular song is, because I'm still kind of starting out.
I get a lot of feedback from moving forward from that song and from Scary Close.
But yeah, all my music is streamable on Spotify, iTunes, YouTube, Amazon music, things like that.
And I've
You wouldn't know it to look at me, but I
I thought you'd be rocking that swag.
Very disappointed.
You
I'll remember
Do you have, who are your influences?
Like when you're growing up, you've been musical your whole life, if I remember correctly.
When did you decide that like the Christian rock sound was gonna be your thing?
How old were you and who do you have influences in that genre or are your influences from when you were younger?
That's a great question.
I have a lot of influences.
I feel like my music variety is fairly diverse, although I mean, I have my favorites.
Yeah.
I grew up, you know, listening to Whitney Houston and CeCe Winans and all the big, gospel-y singers.
I'm a big fan of Mandisa, who's no longer here.
She's a big influence for me.
She's a Christian artist.
Okay.
But yeah, I listen to a lot of Christian music, but I also love rock and... Yeah.
...be like Jill Scott and, you know, people like that.
So, Tori Kelly.
We
We're going to do a very short break, and we'll come back.
We'll have a few more minutes with our in-studio guest here, Deandra Marie, local Appleton-based singer-songwriter who just performed, Imperfect Me.
Very nicely done.
We will tell you more about where you can see her in the next couple of days.
And we'll finish up some text, too.
This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.
I'm Pete Schwabba.
We have a great show tomorrow night, folks.
Wheezy Waiter himself, the Wheezy Waiter,
He is a YouTube influencer with like over a million followers.
I can't even comprehend that.
He's also known as Craig Benzing and he is a director and has a movie called No Packers, No Life.
Craig will be here tomorrow night at 6.35 p.m.
And he's gonna do the popcorn pick of the week.
So that'll be fun.
Craig is a great guy.
I interviewed him on my PBS show.
And he's just a, he's a spectacular guest.
So I'm excited to talk to Craig tomorrow.
And then we've got a new sport Conrad.
Yeah,
yeah, so you said you played it didn't I did I played it at my nephew's wedding or my niece's wedding And we'll have Savannah Schindler here from Beloit who's gonna talk about this this cool yard game
That's tomorrow night at 7.35.
So Craig and Savannah will be here tomorrow night.
We have a few more minutes with our guest, Deandra Marie.
We did establish that that is Deandra's mother who was on the stream.
She said, we like you, Pete, but we love Deandra Marie, mom and dad.
Okay, I'll take a like from somebody else's parents.
They've been here.
I feel like we're kind of friends though.
They've
been here a couple of times.
Yeah.
You've met more than once, not your friends.
All right.
But you know, you don't have to wait till Deandre Murray's on the show to text them.
So I'm just saying, putting it out there.
Here, Annie from Watertown says, oh wait, we've got Tom from New Berlin.
He says, all my remodeling jobs, I do always buy more material than I will ever use.
That's still a job though, Tom.
I don't know if that's wasting money.
Hopefully you can sell it back.
He says tools, screws, plumbing things, et cetera.
Kind of right now you know a good plumber.
Tom will fix, come over and fix everything right up.
I'm only half kidding.
Annie from Watertown chimes in again and says, oh my God, before became sophisticated ninth graders, Carol King, Carly Simon, James Taylor, et cetera.
Julie Bloor was Gaga with Bobby Sherman's Julie, Julie, Julie, do you love me?
He was bigger than David Cassidy, so there you go.
You could write a song about your mom.
Steady Eddie in the 608 says Pete.
Steady Eddie, you're still around.
You remember Steady Eddie.
Absolutely.
He's
He always brings it.
He says, Pete, I heard you busting Sylvester Stallone's chops for his still being jacked.
At 75, yeah, that's a little weird.
He says, what about you, Peachwaba?
I occasionally watch you on YouTube.
Tell me you're not juicing.
How do you explain those bowling shirts with the sleeves strained to the seams?
That's a lot of extra space
Steady Eddie,
Or you just wear my t-shirt.
I wear Deandre's t-shirt.
Let's try
Steady Eddie.
Thank you,
Thank you for your kind words.
That's really thoughtful that you guys are
being
behalf of
Yeah.
I mean, next steps are.
Just looking for more opportunities and they come with exposure, right?
And people often invite me to different events if it's like a wedding or I just got invited to do some music at a big event for like suicide awareness this fall, which will be really special.
You know, that's a heavy topic and I'm happy to get involved with something like that.
So
looking for a button
I mean Well
I mean, it is touchy, right?
But like for me, it's an honor because like those are things that are close and near and dear to my heart.
write about personal things, you know, I think they're looking for, I think they need a national anthem singer.
They want a couple like church songs or him.
So I can do that.
And then I haven't got like the full and you yet or what they're looking for, but.
I can be flexible.
Keep it safe for the most part, right?
I
can't be any tougher than being on the show here, so.
absolutely.
Craig will bring his friends.
I
what I said
the... Well, ask her.
She's on
I am
I like it I do
Or is it something?
Yeah.
I do.
That's good.
That's
Try to remember what I was watching before that.
You're
Yeah, I have my moments.
I definitely have my moments.
She didn't even catch
Oh, I did.
a
A deondra potato?
I can roll with that.
haven't sang that in a long time.
Beautiful songs ever.
probably since my classical training days in school.
So don't hold your breath.
It's incredible.
A little bit, yes.
Pete.
Maybe I will at some
it.
One
I figured it was coming.
for you next time,
Conrad, hook us
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