Wisconsin’s Creative Pulse (Hour 2)

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Wisconsin’s Creative Pulse (Hour 2)

Nite Lite with Pete Schwaba and Greg Bach · Wed Aug 6, 2025

Kathryn Lake

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Broadcasting live from the Civic Media Studios in Green Bay, this is Night Light with P. Chwabba.

Your inside source on everything entertainment from Wisconsin to Hollywood.

And now, a guy who likes to dine and dash,

Pete Schwaba

Pete Schwabba.

Welcome back to Nightlight, folks.

It's a Wednesday edition, one of our favorite editions of the week.

Having some fun here tonight.

We got a great show.

Deandra Marie will be here at 720 in the studio performing.

She is a local singer-songwriter who has a gig coming up in just a few days.

We'll tell you all about that.

My guest in the first hour was Craig Anthony Kinnit.

We will jump back in with Craig in just a minute here.

We're talking, well, we talked about Comic-Con and Independent Film.

We're going to talk about a new film he has that's going to play in the Milwaukee Shorts Festival, which is coming up.

We'll jump into that in just a minute too.

Our question of the night.

Conrad, do you remember the question of the night?

What do you spend your money on?

What do you waste your money on?

What do you waste your money on?

There's a big difference.

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So let us know.

It's 855-752-4842 or you can text us on the app or if you're watching on YouTube, Twitter, X, whatever you call it now and Facebook, you can drop us a stream comment as well.

We've gotten a few of those and we'll catch up on texts very soon.

We also talked about...

What else did we talk about Conrad?

Well, there's a new smoothie.

That sounds

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disgusting,

you guys.

I know.

Sounds fantastic.

I don't know.

Really?

Oh, yeah.

Why don't you all

throw a steak in there then right away?

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Why don't you sip on your Heinz ketchup smoothie while you cleanse yourself with your Sydney Sweeney bar of soap?

Oh, that sounds like a great day.

Sounds like

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a nutty night at home, doesn't it?

So we will get to all of this in just a moment, folks.

But let us know what your response to the question is.

It's a fun question.

And I said,

I said DoorDash and food delivery.

I waste more than I would like to with that.

Conrad said protein bars.

Our guest Craig, what did you say?

I said internet, bad internet

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connections.

Bad internet connections.

What do you pay for the internet?

Oh my God, I think it's like 150 bucks.

What the heck?

I

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don't

know, it's ridiculous.

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That's too

much.

And it's because we want to keep a landline too, otherwise we wouldn't have it.

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It's awful.

Conrad said that you said your mom sent you this.

You want to put that on the stream?

People can see that.

What is that?

Simply fuel protein balls?

Yep.

Chocolate chip

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cookie dough.

Yep.

She wanted to make sure that you saw the flavor.

What in the heck?

And get your thoughts on that.

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So that wraps like three questions of the night into one, because we talked, well, cookie dough wasn't a question of the night.

That was from yesterday.

Cookie dough has taken over the world.

It's terrible.

Chocolate chip cookies, probiotics,

and protein.

Oh, wow, look

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at that.

That's a kind of a cool thing.

Have

you tasted them?

I haven't, but you can get them at Sam's Club.

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I believe that.

Nice.

Sam's Club offers a lot of goods and services.

And then we will get to some texts in just a few minutes here, but Sidney from Oregon says, Mr. Shield Glass Screen Protectors.

I don't know what the...

I

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think that's for your phone.

It

protects your phone screen so that they don't crack, and then they

probably crack anyways.

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Okay, Tony the trucker says Pete, Tony's in the 608.

He says, Pete lottery tickets, but you can't win unless you play.

He's

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right.

When I do win, it's not enough to impact my life.

So I reinvest hoping to hit the big one.

Good luck, Tony.

And if you win, give us a taste, will ya?

It's the

least you

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could do.

Steven Flora, he's in the 920, at least his cell phone is.

He says, even though I only buy a couple of Powerball tickets,

a week, four bucks, I feel like I'm wasting my money.

But as the saying goes, you can't win unless you buy a ticket.

That seems to be the theme here on the text line right now.

He says, maybe someday.

I'm with you, Steve.

I buy a ticket when I think of it, but I don't think I've ever hit more than one number.

Oh, I

hear

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you completely.

It's almost like the odds are very difficult.

When they get

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up into the

billions of dollars, Pete, it's like you have to buy one.

just for that second

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of

thought in your head.

It's like, oh my God, what would happen if I, and then you start thinking about how your life would change.

And you know what?

You really, really think about how your life would change.

That's a movie right there waiting to happen, Pete.

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I would tell all my friends to take a hike and I would get some new ones and I would move somewhere exotic.

You'd have to, almost.

People would be coming out of the woodwork to try to- People wouldn't understand me anymore.

I've got new friends and I've got money.

I'm sorry, this is the way life goes.

It is interesting though, because we, one night, we were cleaning up the, I think this was during COVID.

We were cleaning the kitchen and I think my son, I thought he accidentally threw a lottery ticket away and there was no winner and we hadn't checked it yet.

And I said, you are going through the garbage because I guarantee you, if we don't find that ticket, it's gonna be a

winner.

It's the winner.

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So, all right, let's jump back in with our guest Craig Kennett.

Let us know what you think though, folks.

What do you waste money on?

That's the question of the night.

The night like question of the night.

Your friends with Scott Harp, who's a Marinette native and made a film called Single Action Cult years ago that I saw at the Marinette Theater in Marinette.

Scott is a great guy.

How did you guys

meet?

Actually, I met Scott almost accidentally because we were both.

into film and Scott was just starting up trying to make something with film here in Green Bay.

And that was like, I was a part of that very first meeting and I brought a couple people to it and it was probably only about seven or eight people that were filmmakers and we all got together in Scott Harp's basement and we ended up calling it the Independent Filmmakers Guild, the IFG.

We had a long run.

We had a very healthy run of about five or six years.

We would make movies.

We'd share them every month We would and Scott and his buddy Scott McPherson who those guys were inseparable They would always makes things together Brilliant and funny guys so we'd all make these movies then we'd have ton of stuff We could enter in film festivals and it was just a really good healthy way of of creating and we'd each inspire each other by kind of having this little bit of a

competitive edge to it.

Yeah.

It's like, all right, this next month, we're going to make a horror movie.

You got to keep it under five minutes.

Oh, that's cool.

And we're going to share them then that night.

That was a blast.

That was super fun.

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Parameters are good, I think, under circumstances like that.

Well, I

think it actually helps you to be more creative.

Yeah.

Honestly, because it's like if there's nothing there, you're just so wide open, especially when you're working with kids or anybody that doesn't

to have a lot of experience with that.

Giving them those guidelines helps them a little bit to stay within the tracks and make something cool.

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That is the voice of my guest, Craig Connit, who's joining me in studio here.

You have how I met your mother.

Yeah, I got these.

Hey Conrad, check this out, look

at here.

I got you a gift and you can share these with Pete if you want.

Okay.

My buddy works at Fox Studios, and he worked in the Nakatomi Plaza building,

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the

one from the Die Hard.

You can't miss that.

You can't.

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From the freeway.

It's like, oh, there's the Die Hard building.

Yeah,

and so he was working in there, and I had to shoot some footage of him, and then we went up in there that night and could see...

You know LA all the way around it was

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super awesome

And they had a whole bunch of DVDs and stuff that they were given away and I had most of them But I didn't have these and I thought let's bring these back for Conrad.

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That's awesome

Yeah, how I met your mother.

I

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heard

you talk about that

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so many times.

My favorite show our gift by Conrad cuz neither one of us are particularly good gift-getters Craig brought salsa one time.

Oh, yeah, I gotta make something else another time too.

Oh, I can't

You bring a lot of stuff.

You don't have to do that.

But thank you.

And before we

jump away from Comic-Con 2, I wanted to let you know that there was a person that was there that's never been to Comic-Con before, George Lucas.

Star Wars fame.

He's never been to Comic-Con before.

Yeah.

And well, I take that back.

He hasn't been there in many, many, many, many years.

And he was there not to talk about Star Wars.

He was there to talk about the George Lucas Museum.

of narrative art.

Where's that?

It's gonna be opening somewhere in California, but it's storyboarding, it's props, it's all the things that go into making film, and it's gonna be in this museum.

Not just Star Wars stuff, but anything from different movies that he's...

been

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intrigued by.

So that's a pretty cool announcement, I

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thought.

Tell us about, you have a film you worked on called A Real Wisconsin Goodbye.

The Milwaukee Shorts Film Festival starts at September 6th, that's right around the corner, or that's when your film is screening.

What's that film

about?

Okay, well it was, that was the working title.

It's Wisconsin Goodbye, and if you've ever tried to leave a party

Um, everybody's just so polite and it's like, oh, hey, let me get you another beer.

No, no, no, I got to get going.

I got to get going.

Did you try the Kringle yet?

Have you tried

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that?

Oh, I meant to ask you.

Yeah.

Oh, did I?

Yeah.

Did you talk about, you know, so all these things ridiculous

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and all

these reasons for keeping people still there at the party.

And that's what this ultimately is.

The title of the film is called Daniel needs to leave and it stars Daniel Wheeler.

who's

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also been on the show.

And he is brilliant in it because all he wants to do is get out of here politely from A to B and it goes from your typical polite response.

Into a little bit of horror and then back out of it So it's a quick short film and I shot it all on my cell phone here nice and that was part of the experiment as well I wanted to see what we could do shooting it on a cell phone utilizing that as the audio that was tricky because I

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had to

really fix some of that but the end results were pretty cool and It did it told the story that I wanted and it's the camera floats through the whole party

So

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it's just kind of moving

through there and it was it was pretty awesome.

That's fantastic.

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So all right.

So if you want to check out this film, it sounds great.

That sounds tedious to shoot, though, working through a party for continuity sake.

Was it difficult or

it was?

But you know what?

Think about it.

It's a it's a almost 10 minute film and I got it shot in four hours.

Oh, wow.

That is insanity.

You can't ever especially choreographing almost 20 people.

You know trying to get everybody in the right spot and we did about two or three takes on each on each run through and It I don't know it's it's it's organic and it worked out really well is their nudity No, although Dan Davies talks about it

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in the sense the same

thing.

No, I know but he

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is a director Craig you could just be naked everybody else

Okay

I was

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in the

shower in the scene, but it's

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the first short film ever Well, I

didn't call you but I sent you a text.

It's like come on down be in this movie and you're like, oh, well, you're gonna have to pay for my air flight

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That was half kidding

Well, good luck with that.

I hope

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you break a

leg.

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I was well

kid involved too.

Yeah, you know sometime especially if he's just getting started and

Getting things done.

Yeah.

No, he's got some short

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films and he's he loves it.

He's consumed by it.

So he writes every day and he's like taking acting classes and it's like a father's nightmare, but Hey, I want it before you get out of here.

I want to get your take on Fantastic Four because I know Conrad Conrad was lukewarm on it, right?

And no, I enjoyed it.

Oh, you did.

Yeah

I must be thinking of the Conrad's build with a C.

I enjoyed it.

I really did.

I was hoping for more, honestly, because Marvel's trying so hard to get themselves out of a hole a little bit.

They need to.

They need to make these movies really strong.

Conrad, every single time the thing came on the screen with a beard, I said audibly, stupid, stupid.

I was

so

frustrated with that.

There was one time in the thing's history where he had a beard, and it was a fake beard.

And then there was another time, there were two other times that he's had a beard and one is after a thousand years of living and once a year he was able to turn back into human.

So after a thousand years of him turning into human one day, he had a beard.

Otherwise it didn't happen.

So some goon from Hollywood who thought it would be funny to, or cool, God, he'd look so hip and cool.

Let's give him, let's give him a beard.

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You gotta take it easy.

Yeah, but every time Galactus was on the screen or Galacticus as my friends like to say It was jaw-dropping awesome.

Yeah his that character was

Impressive.

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That's an endorsement.

All right.

Thank you, buddy.

Always fun to have you in the studio.

I love coming on the show.

Whether you're on the show by Morris Code, whatever.

It's just great to have you here and continued success.

And let's keep talking about all your movie stuff.

Yes, I

got some other surprises coming your way,

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too, Pete.

I bet you do.

You always do.

You're a busy guy.

All right, that's Craig Kennett.

We're coming right back with Deandra Marie, and we're going to read some of your texts.

That's up next on Nightlight on this Wednesday night.

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Welcome back.

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Craig is like a free train, isn't he?

He just like.

The guys got so much stuff to say.

He's a great guest.

Oh,

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yeah going.

He's a comic con.

He's making a movie.

He's doing this In just a few minutes folks my second guest of the night will be here in the studio Deandra Marie if you're watching on the stream You can see Deandra and her boyfriend Craig setting stuff up.

Hopefully Craig is okay being on camera.

I don't know if that's Okay, Craig now he sees like cowering.

Sorry All right, so our question of the night folks is what do you waste money on?

And we've gotten some really good responses.

Conrad said protein bars.

I said food delivery, like DoorDash, Uber Eats, that kind of thing.

But let's get to some texts.

Daniel Wheeler says iced coffees.

Yeah.

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If I prepared better, I could steep it in the refrigerator the night before.

Most of the stuff we spend money on is like that kind of stuff.

We could just do it ourselves.

Our pal Dan Davies says copious amounts of beer and little Debbie snacks.

It's disgusting.

Yeah, a little Debbie's

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that's like that's like their hostess wannabes He says I wish someone could come up with a little Debbie flavored beer.

They could call it little deb brow Sorry, my life sucks Well, do you have to bring us down with you Dan, I'm kidding I have kidding.

Yeah, the little you had me the beer I can see but a little Debbie I don't know about that Sheila Rosenberg says bags of baby carrots.

That's what she wastes money on

She says every week I tell myself I'm gonna eat them.

Every week I toss a bag of moldy slimy carrots into the trash.

It's a vicious cycle.

At least you're throwing out healthy food, Sheila.

And not wasting.

You're not throwing out unhealthy food.

Barry McClure on social media says everything.

LOL, it's crazy how much it costs to live nowadays.

That's true.

And it's funny because there's some comic that does a joke about every time you leave your house, it's a hundred bucks.

I'm gonna fill the

car

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with gas, got some grocery, dropped my daughter for $100.

Went to the coffee shop, did this, $100.

Monica Hale says, chocolate, lots of chocolate.

She says, cookie dough protein bars do not taste like cookie dough, just like raspberry cheesecake yogurt does not taste like cheesecake.

Well said, Monica.

This is one I totally agree with and I'm upset.

Ezekiel beat me to it.

He says, health insurance, way too expensive.

drives me crazy when people say, well, we have the best health.

You know, you go to a foreign country and you sit in a waiting room for four hours.

I do that here and I have insurance.

Health insurance is ridiculous.

Great one.

That's the text of the night, Ezekiel.

All right, I think we got all the social media texts.

Let's turn our attention to the text line.

Ladies and gentlemen, you can text us at 855-752-4842.

I want to point out too that Julie

is listening on the stream or watching on the stream.

She's waiting for Deandra Murray to come on the show and she'll be here in just a few moments, Julie.

And Julie said, just waiting for the singer, which could be construed as rude, but she did not mean it like that.

She said, that's my mom.

So she said, waiting for the singer came from my mom and dad, nothing against Craig, but she is eagerly awaiting Deandra Murray as we all are.

She will be here in just a few minutes and she has fans listening as she often does.

Paula Krieger, Conrad's mom says, all the different streaming services, just to watch a few series that we enjoy.

I wish it would all be on one service.

For 400 bucks a month.

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400 only?

Oh, thank you.

Thank you, Paula.

Nick from the 608 says, I go to my favorite record stores and occasionally online to buy vinyl records and CDs like there's no tomorrow.

Got so much music, I will have to open up my own shop.

Well, there you go.

It's like, that's how eBay started, right?

I think so.

I think so.

A woman told her husband to clean out the garage and he became rich.

So this is that three-pack shield.

How much are those con red, those screen?

It doesn't say.

Okay.

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Sorry, Sidney.

Thank you for sharing that, though.

You didn't have to support your argument.

I believed that he was spending too much.

Mark, from the sack.

That's Prairie to Sack.

For those of you scoring at home in the 608, he says, wasn't there a song, Julie Julie, Do You Love Me?

Is there, does that sound familiar?

No.

Well, let's, we'll ask Deandra when she gets here.

She's the music person.

And more screen protector stuff from Sydney.

Good stuff.

Are we repeating here?

Here we go.

Annie from Watertown.

She, her cell phone anyway is in the 920.

She says avocados.

They're expensive, but that's like a super food.

That's like the one food you could live off of.

So I hear you, Annie.

but I love avocados.

Carrie from Tosa, she's in the 414, says kombucha, I don't know if I'm saying

this.

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Kombucha.

Kombucha.

So the CH is not silent.

It is not.

Kombucha tea.

I don't drink it, so I don't know how expensive it is, Carrie, but I take your word for it.

Thank you.

Robert from La Crosse says, I used to indulge in Cinnabon, but the business supported Project 2025.

Oh, Project 2025.

Ended that waste of money.

Well, sometimes they make it easy for you, right, Robert?

Thank you for the text.

Conn, I feel like I missed, did we get John from Madison?

We didn't read his text yet.

Let's

go back.

I don't think so.

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What is that picture he sent?

Oh well.

Is that who he calls this old lady?

Yeah.

I cannot condone that kind of talk.

But she seems fine with it, right?

So who am I?

John from Madison, we love John.

He's in the 608.

He says, Peter, my old lady attached.

He sent us a picture of his wife.

Yup.

What are we supposed to do with that?

He's just being nice.

Your wife is a beautiful woman, John.

I

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don't, is this like some kind of pervy thing where I'm supposed to send John a picture of my wife now and we go back

and forth?

No, I don't think so.

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John's got a set to humor.

He says, she's what makes me happy all the time.

My beautiful bride is 11 years younger than me, hence my teasing.

I suppose I am a cradle robber at best, but we all know the marriage-y types of things are a little lax in Tennessee.

Our home, sweet home, Knoxville.

I thought they were Madison people.

Maybe they're transplants from Knoxville.

Just kidding, we are, oh God.

He says, just kidding, we are flatlanders.

We are now proud of Wisconsinites for 25 years.

Love your show so very much.

It makes my day.

John, you make my day, buddy.

Keep those texts coming.

And he already is.

He says, so I waste all my money on her and beer.

Well, it's nice to meet your old lady, John.

If you can call her that, I think we can call her that.

Keep those texts coming, folks.

Hey, this is exciting.

Deandra Murray is here in the studio, folks, and she's going to perform her new song.

And we're going to tell you about her gig that you can check her out at in just a couple of days here in Northeast Wisconsin.

It's Pete Schwabba and Night Light on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Okay, on the stream, Julie did clarify there is a song called, yes, or I'm sorry, called Julie, Julie, Julie, Do You Love Me?

So we've, pardon me, we've answered that question.

Thank you, Julie, for sharing that.

And you should know songs that are written for you.

Lots of good songs with girls' names in it.

Thank you, Julie, and thank you for listening.

And you're about to be in luck because your pal, the very talented Deandra Marie is here.

with us now in studio.

How are you?

Good.

How are you?

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I'm doing very well.

Local singer-songwriter Deandra Marie, she's been on the show before.

If you've listened to, if you're a regular listener, you've probably heard her.

She does great work and she is based out of Northeast Wisconsin.

And we wanted to have you back on when you got closer to a gig you have coming up.

So tell people where they can see you in a couple of days.

Yeah.

So you can find me at the Cup of Joy this Saturday night at 730 and that's on Main Street 525.

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Right down

the road.

You've been there before, right?

This will be my second time.

Yeah, it's a great venue.

Family friendly.

It's a great setup.

A lot of different varieties of music and bands that come in there.

That's great.

I'm excited to be back.

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How long of a set are you going to play?

It's about 45 minutes.

Oh, nice.

So I'm doing a shared night with another local group called Untapped Potential, and they're based out of the Appleton area also.

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Who is there like a headliner?

Do you guys just split time?

Or how does that

work?

We just kind of split time.

Okay.

Yeah.

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So, all right, you're gonna play something for us, but before we do that, what, how are you?

What is new?

Catch us up in the world of The Under Me, because all I have is a website.

Yeah.

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And now here you are on the flesh.

Is the website up in current?

Yeah, I would say the website's pretty current.

Things kind of slowed down for a bit, you know, because I work full time and so this is kind of like a part time thing for me, but I obviously enjoy it.

But yeah, just spend busy.

I did a couple of events this summer since I've seen you like a couple of national anthems actually singled at the Timberheadler Stadium.

Really nice.

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How did that go?

Really, really well.

It was fun.

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Is that an intimidating song to sing because, you know, people, everybody knows it so well and there have been like legendary.

mess ups of it on national TV.

Is it

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intimidating singing the national anthem?

I think it can be.

I think like anything, it's kind of a mindset.

Personally, I think sharing my own music is a little scarier because it's more vulnerable and personal.

So a lot of times in my mind, I'm like, people aren't here to see me.

They're here to see like the football game or the baseball

game, right?

So I don't know.

Maybe I have a different mindset.

I haven't messed it up yet.

So let's knock on wood.

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Well, if you want, if we have time, you can sing the

national anthem.

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No one's ever closed the show

that way

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before.

Just think about it.

Third time's a charm.

I mean, I'm making a statement here tonight.

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So all right, so you did that.

That's a cool thing.

What is your day job?

What do you do during the day?

I'm in sales.

I do a truck leasing in Appleton.

Yeah.

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Have you ever gotten a song out of your day job?

Not yet.

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Nothing inspiring?

No.

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OK.

What kind of

trucks?

Big semi-trucks.

The semi-trucks.

Like day calves and straight trucks and reefer trucks.

Yeah.

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Nice.

Okay.

Well, very

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cool.

I have so many questions for you.

Okay.

Fire away, Pete.

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Yeah.

So, all right.

So, Cup of Joy, August 9th, 730.

Family friendly.

Yes.

All right.

On your website, this is interesting.

It says, I think your song is called Imperfect Me.

Yes.

You've

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played that here, right?

I'm not sure if I played that one or not.

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Okay.

What does this mean?

You say it crushes gospel stereotypes.

What do you mean by

that?

maybe we touched on this one of the shows.

I can't remember, but it sounds familiar.

But anyways, Imperfect Me is inspired by the scripture that says we don't have to be good enough to come to Christ.

His sacrifice on the cross makes us good enough.

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So that

inspired the song of coming to him imperfect.

So we can't earn anything.

So that's kind of what the song is about.

Not having to be good enough to earn salvation or grace.

It's a free gift that's given.

So that inspired that

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song.

trying to brag, but what if you are perfect when you go?

I'm not sure.

I don't have the answer to that one.

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All right, so those of you listening have probably figured out that Deandra is a Christian artist or spiritual.

How do you define yourself?

Christian, Christian singer-songwriter.

Okay.

Pete Schwaba

Given that, because we've talked about this in the past too, some artists have like

spiritual undertones or overtones in their music, but probably don't wouldn't identify that way.

Do you

Pete Schwaba

feel limited when you say I'm a Christian artist?

Do you feel like are there things you don't want to sing about or or maybe would but don't because you consider yourself a Christian artist?

Yeah, I mean, I definitely think I hold myself to a certain standard.

And but I wouldn't say like, I mean, I feel like my music, a lot of it is written about real life things as we kind of touched on so it can kind of

You know, it's relatable in

Kathryn Lake

a

sense, but there it could maybe go both ways.

Yeah, but I try to Have I consider it maybe like a heartbreak and hope kind of feel like a positive hope message

Pete Schwaba

You've when you've performed on the show in the past some of your songs are very personal and it's it's interesting that you say You're more intimidated seeing those do you ever are you I mean when you perform are you ever like I don't want to go there tonight.

I don't feel like opening up to people

But you have to, do you, how does that work?

Yeah, I mean, that's such a great question.

And it's, I do feel like that Pete, like it's scary.

Like it's very vulnerable because you're exposing like, you're opening yourself up to rejection, right?

You're exposing like, okay, these are parts of my heart, they're parts of my story.

And to me, that's scarier than singing the national anthem because it's just the national anthem, even though it's not just the national anthem, but it is.

Pete Schwaba

Right.

Did you have a question, Con?

Oh, no.

Pete Schwaba

He, like, looked at me and brought the mic to his mouth.

I thought you were going to break a story or something.

Conrad is also a Christian artist, but he finger paints.

There's people walking by some of your, some of your, he's a Christian finger painter.

And they don't get enough, they don't get

Pete Schwaba

enough.

You're holding out on me again.

I haven't

seen any of

your work yet.

I'm so disappointed.

I don't show it to the public.

Pete Schwaba

He's

very temperamental.

He's understood because it's vulnerable, right?

Pete Schwaba

It's scary.

All right, Deandra Marie is my guest.

She is a Northeast Wisconsin-based, Appleton-based, more accurately, singer-songwriter, and she is performing at Cup of Joy on August 9th at 730, right down the road here on Main Street, if you live in Green Bay.

So what are you gonna play for us tonight?

Have you decided that you're kind of back and forth?

I don't know.

What do you, should I play in Perfect Me?

It's kind of skinny on the piano.

It's not my full band, you know?

Pete Schwaba

You just gotta sing something or I'm gonna start singing and nobody

wants that.

Well, maybe if I should just turn it over to you and you can start

Pete Schwaba

singing.

Here's the thing about that.

I've been promoting you all day.

So

I'm gonna leave

Pete Schwaba

this up to you and you sing whatever you would like to.

If that were the case, then I'd have to invite you to come to my show on Saturday to sing.

That's

Pete Schwaba

true.

And again, nobody wants that.

So

yeah, whatever you want.

All right, can this is a little bit troublesome for me.

Okay.

I'm going to play a song I wrote called Scary Close.

Pete Schwaba

All right, here's Deandra Marie in studio singing Scary Close.

you

Pete Schwaba

Yeah, are you gonna play that on the ninth?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

With a band.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, really?

Yeah, I'll have some people there with me.

Pete Schwaba

Oh, no kidding.

Okay, so what inspired, what's your most popular song, would you say?

And where can people find your music, Deandra?

I don't know what my most popular song is, because I'm still kind of starting out.

I get a lot of feedback from moving forward from that song and from Scary Close.

But yeah, all my music is streamable on Spotify, iTunes, YouTube, Amazon music, things like that.

Pete Schwaba

And you brought swag in with you last time.

And I've

Pete Schwaba

worked out a couple times in that t-shirt.

I'm giving it a good run for its money.

You wouldn't know it to look at me, but I

Pete Schwaba

do work out sometimes.

I thought you'd be rocking that swag.

Very disappointed.

You

Pete Schwaba

need shirts with a collar, because I dress up a little bit when I go in the air.

I'll remember

Pete Schwaba

that.

Do you have, who are your influences?

Like when you're growing up, you've been musical your whole life, if I remember correctly.

When did you decide that like the Christian rock sound was gonna be your thing?

How old were you and who do you have influences in that genre or are your influences from when you were younger?

That's a great question.

I have a lot of influences.

I feel like my music variety is fairly diverse, although I mean, I have my favorites.

Yeah.

I grew up, you know, listening to Whitney Houston and CeCe Winans and all the big, gospel-y singers.

I'm a big fan of Mandisa, who's no longer here.

She's a big influence for me.

She's a Christian artist.

Okay.

But yeah, I listen to a lot of Christian music, but I also love rock and... Yeah.

...be like Jill Scott and, you know, people like that.

So, Tori Kelly.

Pete Schwaba

Right.

We

Pete Schwaba

just got a text, too, that said, well, we'll read these when we come back.

We're going to do a very short break, and we'll come back.

We'll have a few more minutes with our in-studio guest here, Deandra Marie, local Appleton-based singer-songwriter who just performed, Imperfect Me.

Very nicely done.

We will tell you more about where you can see her in the next couple of days.

And we'll finish up some text, too.

This is Nightlight with Pete Schwabba on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Kathryn Lake

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Pete Schwaba

Welcome back to Night Light.

I'm Pete Schwabba.

We have a great show tomorrow night, folks.

Wheezy Waiter himself, the Wheezy Waiter,

He is a YouTube influencer with like over a million followers.

I can't even comprehend that.

He's also known as Craig Benzing and he is a director and has a movie called No Packers, No Life.

Craig will be here tomorrow night at 6.35 p.m.

And he's gonna do the popcorn pick of the week.

So that'll be fun.

Craig is a great guy.

I interviewed him on my PBS show.

And he's just a, he's a spectacular guest.

So I'm excited to talk to Craig tomorrow.

And then we've got a new sport Conrad.

Yeah,

and you tell the

Pete Schwaba

people what the sport is.

I think this is pretty cool.

It's called the it's called cub Mm-hmm, and it's it's more like a I feel like kind of like an outdoor a lawn game front Yeah, that's

Pete Schwaba

yeah, so you said you played it didn't I did I played it at my nephew's wedding or my niece's wedding And we'll have Savannah Schindler here from Beloit who's gonna talk about this this cool yard game

That's tomorrow night at 7.35.

So Craig and Savannah will be here tomorrow night.

We have a few more minutes with our guest, Deandra Marie.

We did establish that that is Deandra's mother who was on the stream.

She said, we like you, Pete, but we love Deandra Marie, mom and dad.

Okay, I'll take a like from somebody else's parents.

They've been here.

I feel like we're kind of friends though.

They've

been here a couple of times.

Yeah.

You've met more than once, not your friends.

All right.

Pete Schwaba

So I guess it's nice to hear from you, Julie.

But you know, you don't have to wait till Deandre Murray's on the show to text them.

So I'm just saying, putting it out there.

Here, Annie from Watertown says, oh wait, we've got Tom from New Berlin.

He says, all my remodeling jobs, I do always buy more material than I will ever use.

That's still a job though, Tom.

I don't know if that's wasting money.

Hopefully you can sell it back.

He says tools, screws, plumbing things, et cetera.

Kind of right now you know a good plumber.

Tom will fix, come over and fix everything right up.

I'm only half kidding.

Annie from Watertown chimes in again and says, oh my God, before became sophisticated ninth graders, Carol King, Carly Simon, James Taylor, et cetera.

Julie Bloor was Gaga with Bobby Sherman's Julie, Julie, Julie, do you love me?

He was bigger than David Cassidy, so there you go.

You could write a song about your mom.

Steady Eddie in the 608 says Pete.

Steady Eddie, you're still around.

You remember Steady Eddie.

Absolutely.

He's

Pete Schwaba

one of our faves.

He always brings it.

He says, Pete, I heard you busting Sylvester Stallone's chops for his still being jacked.

At 75, yeah, that's a little weird.

He says, what about you, Peachwaba?

I occasionally watch you on YouTube.

Tell me you're not juicing.

How do you explain those bowling shirts with the sleeves strained to the seams?

That's a lot of extra space

Kathryn Lake

here.

Pete Schwaba

He says, bulging biceps do not lie.

You might want to cut down on your gym time, just saying.

Steady Eddie,

Pete Schwaba

here's what I do.

I do go to the gym, but I end up kind of just like walking around.

Talking to people.

Or you just wear my t-shirt.

I wear Deandre's t-shirt.

Let's try

Pete Schwaba

to get her name out there.

He says, P.S.

Julie, do you love me?

Bobby Sherman in 1970.

He was an actor and a one hit wonder.

Steady Eddie.

Thank you, buddy.

Steady Eddie.

Pete Schwaba

And John Murray again from Madison says, angelic voice and soulful, so beautiful about our guest Deandre.

Thank you,

Pete Schwaba

John.

Do you have a nice message you want to say to John?

Thank you for your kind words.

That's really thoughtful that you guys are

Pete Schwaba

watching.

He shared pictures of his old lady.

He calls her his old lady, so I can say that.

I'm not

being

Pete Schwaba

disrespectful.

And she seems to get a kick out of it.

So it's fine.

John says, Pete's best guest list just got a singer, a special lady.

Very nice.

Thank you, John,

Kathryn Lake

on

behalf of

Pete Schwaba

Deandra and myself.

We have about a couple of minutes left.

So what's the next step for you?

You said you're just starting out.

Yeah.

I mean, next steps are.

Just looking for more opportunities and they come with exposure, right?

And people often invite me to different events if it's like a wedding or I just got invited to do some music at a big event for like suicide awareness this fall, which will be really special.

You know, that's a heavy topic and I'm happy to get involved with something like that.

So

Pete Schwaba

I have been to some shows where the artists has made me want to come out.

Suicide and kill myself.

So I think if you could I don't mean to make light is that?

Wow

looking for a button

Pete Schwaba

to

pull

Pete Schwaba

out No, that's that is how how do you approach a gig like that because it's such a touchy topic.

I mean Well

I mean, it is touchy, right?

But like for me, it's an honor because like those are things that are close and near and dear to my heart.

Kathryn Lake

And since I

write about personal things, you know, I think they're looking for, I think they need a national anthem singer.

They want a couple like church songs or him.

So I can do that.

And then I haven't got like the full and you yet or what they're looking for, but.

I can be flexible.

Keep it safe for the most part, right?

I

Pete Schwaba

mean, seriously, I don't envy you.

That sounds like it would be a tough gig.

All right.

You

can't be any tougher than being on the show here, so.

Pete Schwaba

Listen, you crushed it.

What do you want?

You want a studio audience next time?

Yeah,

absolutely.

Craig will bring his friends.

I

Pete Schwaba

absolutely do.

And bring your folks.

A little offended your folks didn't come this time.

I know

what I said

Pete Schwaba

last time.

They kept Julie in

the... Well, ask her.

She's on

Pete Schwaba

the... Yeah, Julie, fess up.

What's going on?

All right, it's time for that question that I ask most of my guests.

What do you binge watching you watching anything on TV you can share with us?

I am

Pete Schwaba

I'm watching castle.

Oh God, that's supposed to be a great show.

I like it I do

Pete Schwaba

Okay, a lot of people say that when I asked them that that's kind of you seen castle

I've seen like clips of it Yeah, I haven't seen a full episode.

I don't think I've seen clips on like tiktok and stuff

Pete Schwaba

Do you actually binge it?

Like, do you watch three, four episodes in a row?

Or is it something?

Yeah.

Pete Schwaba

Okay.

I do.

That's good.

That's

Pete Schwaba

okay.

Try to remember what I was watching before that.

You're

Pete Schwaba

officially a couch potato.

Yeah, I have my moments.

I definitely have my moments.

She didn't even catch

Pete Schwaba

that, Conrad.

Oh, I did.

Pete Schwaba

You're

a

Pete Schwaba

deondra potato.

A deondra potato?

Pete Schwaba

Sure, that's the thing.

I can roll with that.

Pete Schwaba

John Murray says, Avi Maria.

Do you sing Avi Maria?

I

haven't sang that in a long time.

Beautiful songs ever.

probably since my classical training days in school.

So don't hold your breath.

Pete Schwaba

But you're classically trained.

It's incredible.

A little bit, yes.

Pete Schwaba

John says, Pete, please sing Ave Maria.

Do it,

Pete.

Maybe I will at some

Pete Schwaba

point.

Do it.

Not tonight though.

Let's let things build a little bit.

Do

it.

One

Pete Schwaba

of these nights, I just might spring it on people.

You'll just have to listen, folks.

You can't just tune in when Deandra Marie's here.

Julie says, sorry, next time, do you serve wine?

I figured it was coming.

Pete Schwaba

Conrad makes it in his basement.

I'll bring some of that, and we'll have wine ready

for you next time,

Pete Schwaba

Julie.

Conrad, hook us

Pete Schwaba

up.

I would like to thank my guest, Deandra Marie.

Great job, Craig Kinnet.

Thank you for all your texts and calls.

Always so much fun here at Nightlight, folks, on behalf of the lovable producer, Conrad.

I'm Pete Schwabin saying good night, Wisconsin.

Kathryn Lake

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